| MrBusiness | Anyone in here willing to answer a question concerning an md RAID array? | 00:59 |
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| holstein | !ask | MrBusiness | 01:01 |
| ubottu | MrBusiness: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience | 01:01 |
| MrBusiness | Noted | 01:02 |
| MrBusiness | I sometimes boot my machine, which is running /home off of a RAID1, built from two disks using md. Sometimes the machine will claim, shortly after clearing through the GRUB menu, that the RAID is degraded. However, when I boot, I can see no obvious problems with either disk. /proc/mdstat reports that both disks appear to be fine. SMART tools don't report anything that seems outstandingly onerous, and both disks appear to have perfectly fine superblock | 01:04 |
| MrBusiness | s. What else can I check? | 01:04 |
| holstein | i would probably just keep trying to isolate... test each drive on its own... test the controller | 01:08 |
| holstein | i would see if there are any bugs relating to that specific RAID hardware | 01:08 |
| MrBusiness | which sorts of tests would I want to perform on the drive and controllers? | 01:08 |
| MrBusiness | Also, which RAID hardware do you mean? The disks and the controllers? The RAID itself, near as I can tell, is a software one. | 01:09 |
| holstein | i would test each drive... i like using live CD's for that.. smart test or whatever like you said you have done | 01:09 |
| holstein | MrBusiness: any piece of hardware that would use a kernel driver is what im talking about | 01:09 |
| MrBusiness | Ah, ok | 01:09 |
| holstein | but, i would take the drives out of the array, which i assumed a hardware setup... i would test them individually | 01:10 |
| holstein | thats about it.. removing variables, and testing | 01:10 |
| holstein | test the ram | 01:10 |
| MrBusiness | Alright. Any particular advantage in running from a Live CD over simply using the smart tools on the system as it usually boots? I always tell the thing to boot degraded, and it always comes up despite the whining, so I'm inclined to think that it is merely a fluke. | 01:11 |
| holstein | i just have some tools/tests i like to use... i say whatever tools you trust, use em... but if you run a test on a hard drive that doesnt take an hour or so, i wouldnt trust it | 01:12 |
| holstein | the advantage is going to be *actually* knowing, instead of being where you are now, wondering if a drive is bad | 01:12 |
| MrBusiness | Yes. Alas, I seem to be the weak link here. Not sure which devices and metrics I really trust here. The only thing I know for sure is that the system appears to be working, and it only complains about the degraded RAID once every other reboot or so. | 01:13 |
| holstein | then, i wouldnt sweat it | 01:14 |
| MrBusiness | Alrighty. I agree with that assessment. Just wanted to make sure there wasn't some miraculous diagnosis I was unaware of. I appreciate your advice, sir! | 01:14 |
| holstein | anytime... you can try the server channels too... might find more folks with RAID setups | 01:15 |
| MrBusiness | server channels? which ones are those? | 01:15 |
| holstein | #ubuntu-server | 01:15 |
| ldc | Can someone help me with Chromium? | 03:44 |
| holstein | !ask | ldc | 03:45 |
| ubottu | ldc: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience | 03:45 |
| ldc | right sorry...Chromium says that there isnt a plugin for running Runescape, but I dont have too much trouble with youtube. | 03:47 |
| holstein | i would try chrome | 03:48 |
| ldc | id rather not, that would require using wine | 03:49 |
| holstein | i well, it needs java | 03:49 |
| holstein | not flash | 03:49 |
| holstein | its loading for me right now in chrome.. i dont have chromium in front of me, but its got nothing to do with WINE | 03:51 |
| ldc | ? | 03:51 |
| holstein | ldc: im not using wine | 03:51 |
| ldc | hmm, I thought u had to wine chrome... | 03:52 |
| holstein | its just chrome, in linux.. opening the game... with java | 03:52 |
| holstein | you *should* be able to get it working just fine in chromium | 03:52 |
| al4nc4ds | testing... http://news.softpedia.com/newsImage/Xubuntu-12-04-Beta-1-Screenshot-Tour-2.jpg/ | 03:52 |
| al4nc4ds | very nice | 03:52 |
| holstein | its not flash though... i think thats where you are having issues.. its got nothing to do with youtube/flash.. its java | 03:52 |
| holstein | if you dont have java installed.... | 03:53 |
| ldc | ok, now that my synaptic is done I'm going to get java... | 03:53 |
| Unit193 | icedtea plugin for browser. | 03:55 |
| holstein | thats why i usually end up using chrome.. seems like some of the prompting is funny in chromuim, and some other little things here and there | 03:55 |
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| ldc | ok, that worked. Thanks alot. | 04:03 |
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| Ileden | Hi! Is there a way to configure xfce4-notifyd so that the notifications are dismissed on mouseover - and *only* on mouseover? | 07:36 |
| jadoe | How do I set the default sound card? Xubuntu keeps switching between my normal onboard sound chip and hdmi audio. | 10:47 |
| jadoe | nevermind, found it | 10:48 |
| jadoe | (at least a way to switch back manually) | 10:49 |
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| Ileden | Does anyone know if there's some nice way to make notifications (from xfce4-notifyd) disappear after a mouseover, and only after a mouseover? | 11:41 |
| alexandru4392 | hello | 12:29 |
| alexandru4392 | got a python program but it requires videocapture.Where can i get ir | 12:33 |
| alexandru4392 | it | 12:33 |
| alexandru4392 | it | 12:33 |
| alexandru4392 | ? | 12:33 |
| WhereIsMySpoon | alexandru4392, try in #python | 12:36 |
| alexandru4392 | join #python | 12:37 |
| lodi | hi all | 12:52 |
| lodi | can someone tell me where the apilcations icons are located | 12:54 |
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| vins_ | why does brasero/nautilus/rythmbox appeared on my system 12.04 ? i didnt install those | 13:10 |
| lodi | thinks installs by default | 13:14 |
| vins_ | no.. | 13:15 |
| vins_ | yeah? in 12.04 it will? | 13:15 |
| vins_ | ive been running the 12.04 since a long time .. and now it just appeared | 13:16 |
| lodi | Oh ok did you do an update? recently | 13:16 |
| lodi | 12.04 or 10.04 | 13:18 |
| vins_ | there are some updates everyday | 13:18 |
| vins_ | 12.04 | 13:18 |
| vins_ | latest beat | 13:18 |
| vins_ | beta | 13:18 |
| lodi | ah could be included when it changed to beta 1? not sure if you can see what updates were installed. | 13:19 |
| vins_ | ok.. | 13:20 |
| vins_ | i have to fly , ciao | 13:20 |
| lodi | do you have 12.04 as an live cd? if so boot into it and check if brasero etc is included | 13:20 |
| vins_ | its installed | 13:20 |
| lodi | ok | 13:21 |
| aracnoide | hallo, somebody have a tablet pc? | 14:05 |
| aracnoide | noone? | 14:06 |
| baizon | not me | 14:06 |
| aracnoide | there are drivers for ntrig-duosense? | 14:07 |
| Marzata | a good photo printer with a Linux (Ubuntu, Xubuntu) support? | 14:57 |
| bazhang | Marzata, check at linuxprinting.org once you have selected a printer/before you buy it | 15:01 |
| Marzata | bazhang: thanks | 15:02 |
| bazhang | HP are generally pretty good | 15:03 |
| TimothyObryan | anyone knows of a good packagemanager for latex in xubuntu? one like miktex in win | 15:17 |
| holstein | i would probaly just use miktex TimothyObryan https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MiktexPackageManager ,though i dont have any personal experience | 16:09 |
| TimothyObryan | holstein: well the thing is: the pacakge manager and tools are different things | 16:11 |
| TimothyObryan | they only seem to offer the tools for the ubuntu users, not the package manager | 16:11 |
| holstein | Unfortunately there is no ubuntu package for MPM so you need to compile it yourself. Fortunately it is easy enough to compile. | 16:12 |
| Os_Maleus | TimothyObryan: I, actually, don't have anything installed like MikTeX. can it happen that this is only needed for Win? | 16:12 |
| holstein | yeah... i would try and find a latex user and ask about the workflow... a first hand workflow | 16:13 |
| TimothyObryan | Os_Maleus: im trying to get my hands on a package called tkz-euclide | 16:14 |
| TimothyObryan | but i have no idea how to install an individual package manually, only big repositories | 16:15 |
| holstein | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware pretty much covers all the cases | 16:16 |
| Os_Maleus | hmmm. I am actually a newbe regarding Linux and TeX. so, I am using actually only the LyX. this was simply to install without any MikTeX-package. ... in contrast to the installation under Windows. | 16:17 |
| TimothyObryan | holstein: let's say we forget about the installation bit, and just focus on finding the package of interest. | 16:18 |
| TimothyObryan | i think my friend can help me install the thing, i just need to find it. | 16:18 |
| holstein | TimothyObryan: right, but you might not need it... is it a dependancy? | 16:18 |
| TimothyObryan | holstein: im trying to get a visual off my latex document | 16:19 |
| TimothyObryan | it tells me cant find tkz-euclide.sty | 16:19 |
| TimothyObryan | which means i cannot proceed unless i have the package installed | 16:19 |
| TimothyObryan | so yes, i depend on it | 16:20 |
| holstein | TimothyObryan: i would go to the project maintainer, or try and find a suer that is doing what you want to be doing | 16:21 |
| Os_Maleus | TimothyObryan: but this is just an additional package You could download from e.g. here (http://altermundus.fr/pages/tkz.html). or not | 16:21 |
| holstein | mabye think bigger picture... ask "i am trying to do X" instead of "im trying to get X running and having ths error" | 16:21 |
| Os_Maleus | this is just a style. isn't it? | 16:21 |
| holstein | maybe there is a better/easier way to do what you are trying to do in linux | 16:21 |
| TimothyObryan | ok | 16:22 |
| Os_Maleus | TimothyObryan: and then You would just need to bind it in into Your preamble. or am I wrong? | 16:22 |
| holstein | http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/43844/tkz-euclide-sty-cannot-be-found suggestsremoving hte distro packages | 16:23 |
| TimothyObryan | first i have to tell latex where my package is | 16:23 |
| TimothyObryan | thanks for all your help anyway. | 16:25 |
| leo-unglaub | hey, is there a netinstall alternate image for xubuntu 12.04? | 18:31 |
| leo-unglaub | my usb drive broke and my old one is ony 512 mb large *g* | 18:31 |
| TheSheep | leo-unglaub: you can netinstall ubuntu-server and then install xubuntu-desktop on it | 18:33 |
| hobgoblin | not sure if there is actually a seperate xubuntu one, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD | 18:33 |
| hobgoblin | or do what TheSheep said :) | 18:33 |
| hobgoblin | not that what I gave is any help either - sorry | 18:34 |
| leo-unglaub | yes, but i just found the 11.10 there | 18:34 |
| leo-unglaub | hmmm, and doing a dist upgrade in the server version is..possible, but a bandwith probem | 18:34 |
| leo-unglaub | because @home i have a very sucking inet connection | 18:34 |
| null- | doesn't ubuntu server and desktop use differente optimized kernels? | 18:40 |
| hobgoblin | leo-unglaub: do you want the 12.04 mini iso link? | 18:44 |
| leo-unglaub | yes | 18:45 |
| hobgoblin | http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ | 18:45 |
| hobgoblin | lots of updates since then though | 18:45 |
| null- | since beta1? | 18:47 |
| hobgoblin | yep | 18:47 |
| hobgoblin | I've had ~100Mb I think | 18:47 |
| hobgoblin | 40 today more or less | 18:47 |
| hobgoblin | though that said it's had f/fox and t/bird I think - tends to whack it up | 18:48 |
| null- | that's good, they are working hard towards next release :) | 18:49 |
| hobgoblin | yep | 18:50 |
| hobgoblin | the few bugs I've had are almost all gone now | 18:50 |
| null- | I'm going to wait for beta2 :) | 18:52 |
| hobgoblin | I've been running it since before alpha on and off - constantly since alpha2 | 18:53 |
| null- | reported any bugs? | 18:55 |
| Os_Maleus | how can you find out the model of your hard drive, on which the system is running? | 18:55 |
| hobgoblin | null-: couple - and me too'd some | 18:55 |
| genii-around | Os_Maleus: sudo lshw -C disk will show you extensive disk info. The line for each drive which says: logical name are the device names like sda sdb and so on. So the logical name which corresponds to the disk on which your / is mounted , means that that is the one | 19:04 |
| Os_Maleus | genii-around: Thanks! | 19:07 |
| genii-around | Os_Maleus: You're welcome | 19:07 |
| rattatoue | I just installed Xubuntu 11.10. When I put a cd/dvd into the drive it doesn't automount it or load it. Any suggestions on what I need to do? | 19:18 |
| tomasz1982 | Hi. | 19:24 |
| tomasz1982 | Could anyone help me with Xubuntu 12.04 beta 64bit installation? | 19:25 |
| tomasz1982 | I am having an unusuall problem I can't deal with myself. | 19:25 |
| tomasz1982 | #xubuntu-offtopic | 19:27 |
| Unit193 | !ask | tomasz1982 | 19:27 |
| ubottu | tomasz1982: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience | 19:27 |
| tomasz1982 | Okay :) | 19:28 |
| genii-around | tomasz1982: Details of what the unusual problem is may help | 19:30 |
| tomasz1982 | I am having an odd problem when installing Xubuntu 12.04 64bit Beta. I run the installation from pendrive. All is fine until I hit the user creation screen. The installation freezes at this point. I tried to wait the other time for the files to copy and they did. It's the user creation screen that I can't get pass through. | 19:30 |
| tomasz1982 | !patience | 19:34 |
| ubottu | Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/ | 19:34 |
| Unit193 | Yep, if you don't get an answer here within 30 minutes, try #ubuntu+1. (I personally can't help as I haven't ever run 64bit, but the install for 32bit beta worked for me) | 19:35 |
| tomasz1982 | Do you think a leftover from previous Ubuntu 11.10 with Xfce install could be causing problems? | 19:38 |
| Unit193 | You could open gparted and nuke the partition just to make sure. | 19:39 |
| Unit193 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/TechnicalOverview/Beta1#Xubuntu Didn't have any warnings. | 19:39 |
| tomasz1982 | I want to avoid that. I have Debian 6.0 installed and /home is on another partition. | 19:41 |
| Unit193 | Ah, I see. | 19:41 |
| ronsonol | How do I specify that /dev/sdb1 is not to be regarded a removable volume by the desktop. I have it in fstab as mount point none noauto. | 19:58 |
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| JJC2012 | !time | 20:54 |
| ubottu | Information about using and setting your computer's clock on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime - See https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/NTP.html for information on usage of the Network Time Protocol (NTP) | 20:54 |
| pmsalves | hello. I have an issue with libopenal 32bit in a AMD64 machine running Ubuntu64. Could someone help me? | 21:23 |
| well_laid_lawn | what's the issue pmsalves ? | 21:26 |
| ChristopherNg | hello... | 22:11 |
| ChristopherNg | i want to say thanks for the help i got in this room the other night.. | 22:11 |
| ChristopherNg | it really solved all my problems and was what i was looking for.. | 22:11 |
| ChristopherNg | now basically, I dont know if we have any devs from xubuntu here... | 22:11 |
| ChristopherNg | but... we are a group of post grads looking to do a project. | 22:12 |
| ChristopherNg | so we want to know what we cant do to help | 22:12 |
| ChristopherNg | we have an interest in the development an enterprise resource management system for ubuntu based distros | 22:12 |
| Myrtti | uuuerrrr | 22:13 |
| Myrtti | knome! ^ fresh meat :-D | 22:13 |
| Unit193 | They want to know what they *can't* do to help? | 22:14 |
| knome | ChristopherNg, join us at #xubuntu-devel and introduce yourself to people :) | 22:14 |
| knome | ChristopherNg, we're starting the planning for the Q cycle some time soon | 22:14 |
| knome | Myrtti, ta. could you also take my back pains away? | 22:14 |
| Myrtti | knome: hang from a pull up bar | 22:16 |
| Myrtti | alternatively, lay on your back with your feet against the wall, knees forming a 90 degree angle | 22:16 |
| Myrtti | hth, hand | 22:16 |
| knome | Myrtti, well i've done some good stretching directed by a physiotherapist and to-be-osteopath | 22:17 |
| mongy | hot bath helps me | 22:18 |
| ThePendulum | So... is there anything new in Xubuntu 12.04 that's worth updating for? | 22:25 |
| holstein | i like to get on, and stay on the LTS's for the longevity... thats a reason | 22:26 |
| mongy | it's LTS | 22:26 |
| mongy | worth a bit on it's own imo | 22:26 |
| holstein | i think 12.04 is shaping up to be a strong one too | 22:26 |
| knome | i think that can be said of any xubuntu release | 22:27 |
| ThePendulum | Are their any graphical changes, or just the back-end? | 22:27 |
| knome | there is no reason not to update | 22:27 |
| holstein | sure.. there are newer packages. check out a daily :) | 22:27 |
| knome | ThePendulum, yes, graphical changes too. | 22:28 |
| ThePendulum | Could you give me an example? | 22:28 |
| ThePendulum | I am about to try it | 22:28 |
| knome | ThePendulum, new wallpaper. | 22:28 |
| ThePendulum | Well, the default wallpaper doesn't last long anyway | 22:28 |
| knome | ThePendulum, fixes for the greybird theme, better GTK3 compatibility | 22:28 |
| knome | ThePendulum, icon theme improvements | 22:28 |
| ThePendulum | Still the same authentication screen? | 22:29 |
| knome | unfortunately yes | 22:29 |
| knome | but even if i care about artwork myself... i wouldn't take a new login screen as a reason to upgrade :P | 22:30 |
| ThePendulum | Hmm, pity. Doesn't matter too much though, I only get to see it for 5 seconds a week | 22:30 |
| ThePendulum | There are these people claiming that eyecandy doesn't matter. But I have to admit, if a UI is pretty, it just works better for me | 22:30 |
| ThePendulum | I don't get distracted by ugliness lol | 22:30 |
| ThePendulum | And Xfce pretty much nails it | 22:30 |
| knome | of course. that's why there are people who work on artwork | 22:31 |
| ThePendulum | Or let me put it this way; it allows me to nail it | 22:31 |
| ThePendulum | 'New wallpaper' is the first thing that a lot of people say about 12.04, but don't most people change it to their own wallpaper after a fresh install? | 22:31 |
| knome | maybe. but you asked for examples | 22:32 |
| knome | that's the simplest examples out there | 22:32 |
| ThePendulum | True that | 22:33 |
| knome | anyway, i need to go to bed to stop my back from hurting | 22:33 |
| ThePendulum | Hehe | 22:33 |
| ThePendulum | I guess I'll just install it on a VM | 22:33 |
| ThePendulum | And see for myself | 22:33 |
| knome | mm-hmm | 22:33 |
| knome | good luck | 22:34 |
| ThePendulum | 'night then | 22:34 |
| ThePendulum | Thanks | 22:34 |
| knome | nighty everybody | 22:34 |
| knome | ThePendulum, np :) | 22:34 |
| ThePendulum | He, that 'nighty' reminded me of A Clockwork Orange somehow | 22:35 |
| ThePendulum | Naughty naughty naughty... | 22:35 |
| mongy | I'm not one for defaults but I'll be upgrading for other reasons. | 22:36 |
| ThePendulum | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25683105/Pictures/Screenshots/2012030722%3A36%3A34%28General%29.png | 22:37 |
| ThePendulum | That's mine atm | 22:37 |
| ThePendulum | Not default, but not thát altered either | 22:37 |
| rattatoue | I need a little help, cd/dvds are not being mounted automatically in my xubuntu install | 22:39 |
| ThePendulum | Have you had a look at the Removable Drives and Media window in the Settings Manager? | 22:40 |
| rattatoue | ThePendulum, yes, everything seems to be setup there fine. I havent changed any settings at all. Its been this way since the default install | 22:42 |
| ThePendulum | Removable media is on auto-mount then? | 22:42 |
| ThePendulum | And you're sure the discs you're trying are all non-defect? | 22:42 |
| rattatoue | ThePendulum, yes, I just double checked all removable is set to automount | 22:42 |
| ThePendulum | You are able to mount the discs manually though? | 22:43 |
| rattatoue | ThePendulum, no | 22:44 |
| ThePendulum | Oh, hmm | 22:44 |
| ThePendulum | And you're sure both the optical drive and the media worked before? | 22:44 |
| rattatoue | ThePendulum, yes. The drive works fine on Windows and I even tried four different media | 22:44 |
| rattatoue | ThePendulum, I even changed the fstab and when I go to mount the sr0 it says something about superblock or bad option or something. | 22:45 |
| ThePendulum | Have you tried to sudo mount? | 22:45 |
| rattatoue | ThePendulum, yes | 22:45 |
| rattatoue | "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sr0, | 22:46 |
| rattatoue | missing codepage or helper program, or other error | 22:46 |
| rattatoue | (could this be the IDE device where you in fact use | 22:46 |
| rattatoue | ide-scsi so that sr0 or sda or so is needed?) | 22:46 |
| rattatoue | In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try | 22:46 |
| rattatoue | dmesg | tail or so | 22:46 |
| rattatoue | " | 22:46 |
| ThePendulum | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/mount-wrong-fs-type-bad-option-bad-superblock-on-dev-hdc3-373428/ | 22:47 |
| ThePendulum | The problem seems to be fixed there | 22:47 |
| GridCube | ThePendulum, :3 this is mine http://imagebin.org/202675 | 22:48 |
| ThePendulum | Hehe, not bad :) | 22:48 |
| ThePendulum | Btw, imgur doesn't have the huge ad :o | 22:48 |
| rattatoue | ThePendulum, is there a command to find out what /dev is my cdrom? | 22:49 |
| ThePendulum | rattatoue: Let me check that for you | 22:50 |
| ThePendulum | Yes | 22:51 |
| ThePendulum | Make sure your disc is mounted | 22:51 |
| ThePendulum | And simply type 'mount' in the terminal | 22:51 |
| ThePendulum | It shows a list of all your devices | 22:51 |
| ThePendulum | And a cdrom is mounted to /media | 22:51 |
| rattatoue | ThePendulum, I meant before its mounted. Since I want to make sure its /dev/sr0 | 22:51 |
| ThePendulum | Ah | 22:51 |
| ThePendulum | I'm not sure it's even possible | 22:54 |
| rattatoue | ThePendulum, sudo lshw -C disk will show you what your cdrom drive is /dev | 23:10 |
| rattatoue | GridCube, what is the weather thing on that image you have? | 23:10 |
| ThePendulum | Thanks for sharing that! | 23:11 |
| GridCube | rattatoue, its a screenlet | 23:34 |
| rattatoue | GridCube, ah cool I will have to try one of those :) | 23:35 |
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