snowmanbamfill be back online in about 30.....  or less00:01
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snowmanbamfxcv, you still around???00:58
xcv(snowmanbamf) yes00:58
xcv(snowmanbamf) did you update them?00:58
snowmanbamfno, just got back00:59
snowmanbamfhaven't done anything00:59
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xcvokay, then, try updating those 3-4 you found before01:00
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destroyer-clque tal01:00
destroyer-clcomo estan01:02
Unit193!es | destroyer-cl01:02
ubottudestroyer-cl: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.01:02
snowmanbamfxcv, must reboot01:09
snowmanbamfxcv, brb01:09
snowmanbamfxcv, wow...  that took forever!  computer running slow...  no progress with wireless01:30
snowmanbamfxcv, I have no option for wireless or mobile broadband now01:34
snowmanbamfxcv, you still here???01:38
ybit#kde-usa has been created to coordinate KDE users in the states, hope to see some of you there </plug>01:59
ybitone of the last plugs for the day :)01:59
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netco0mque la xupen y la sigan xupando02:29
netco0mgrande diego02:29
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netco0my por que coño algunos hablan con colores02:36
netco0m:S no entiendo esto02:36
destroyer-clporque se cambian el color02:36
destroyer-clde las letras02:36
destroyer-clcon los comandos02:37
destroyer-cldel irc02:37
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.02:37
netco0msi callate02:40
destroyer-clnos van a banear02:40
destroyer-cly aqui si que luego no puedes desbanearte02:40
destroyer-clesto no es un xat02:40
netco0ma okis02:43
ybitque es callate en ingles?02:43
ybitla palabra "callate"02:44
netco0malgo asi o no02:44
destroyer-clsilence please02:44
ybitese es también #kde-es, #kde-ar02:44
ybity #kde-devel-es02:44
ybitde nada02:45
destroyer-clno voy a ir a esos canales02:45
destroyer-clpq me mandas02:45
destroyer-clpa alla02:45
FloodBotK1destroyer-cl: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.02:45
ybitno se que "pa alla" es02:45
destroyer-clnada olvidalo02:46
destroyer-clte estas quedando conmigo o algo no02:46
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netco0mamor homosexual?02:46
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destroyer-cldeja de hacerme whois puto02:49
destroyer-clpuma aqui te hacen whois y de todo02:49
destroyer-clque son unos putos02:49
FloodBotK1destroyer-cl: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.02:49
destroyer-clme acaban de dar el segundo aviso al tercero me dan band02:50
destroyer-clnet donde estas02:50
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destroyer-cles que los demas estan hay02:52
destroyer-clsin hablar02:52
destroyer-clhablando en privado02:52
destroyer-cly haciendos whois02:52
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destroyer-clque chuchas estas haciendo net02:53
destroyer-clya lo hackearon ya02:54
destroyer-clno habla02:54
pum4ni en el xat habla xD!02:55
destroyer-clesta hackeado por mandar a callar02:55
destroyer-clal boot02:55
netco0mestaba cagando02:58
destroyer-clentro puma02:59
destroyer-clsal vamos a nuestro xat02:59
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netco0mvamos al box03:00
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.03:07
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naftilos76hi everyone, i want to transfer all my emails from kmail to a remote IMAP server so that i can use other email clients to access my emails. Is this doable?05:19
j2_If the remote server can do imports05:39
TSKGreetings, folks.  Anyone here using Blender 2.62 on (k)ubuntu 11.10?06:17
j2_TSK: Stats say that your outlook is hopeful06:55
TSKHehehe...  I'm already well on track toward figuring out the solution to my issue.  Got pointed in the right direction over in #blender already.  ;)06:59
j2_Good channel. That's where I woudl have started07:11
TSKOh yar.  Blender rocks almost as much as Linux does. ;)07:18
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dnivrahello. I recently installed kubuntu-backports and now my laptop screen's blacks out if I leave the system idle for a very short time. this didn't happen before I installed the ppa. I check the screensaver settings but didn't find anything there that could disable this. how can I stop the screen from going blank so frequently?09:50
Riddellcheck display and power management settings09:50
dnivrai checked the "energy savings settings" and find that only options enabled are "display brightness" and "button events handling"09:53
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dnivraadvanced settings and display settings didn't have anything relevant :(09:54
Guest69985                        09:55
cancerHow to run windows files in kubuntu?10:31
rork!wine | cancer10:37
ubottucancer: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu10:37
daughainAnyone awake?10:49
cancerrork: http://paste.ubuntu.com/877293/ this is responce to "sudo apt-get install wine"10:50
szaldaughain: the world has some 28 time zones.. so guess again ;)10:51
daughainszal, I asked a question, I didnt guess anything. anyway, can you help me edit fstab?10:51
ubottuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions10:52
cancerHELP http://paste.ubuntu.com/877293/ this is responce to "sudo apt-get install wine"10:53
szalcancer: do what it suggests, and when that is done, run 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade'10:54
daughainszal, Whats wrong with this nstatement; /dev/sdb1       /media               ntfs    errors=remount-ro 0       110:55
szaldaughain: why, what's the error?10:55
daughainSystem keeps looking for the drive named /media at boot. Still cant get the system to show a random usb drive.10:56
szalbtw, you most probably don't want to mount anything directly to /media, but rather to a subfolder (create the one you want if it doesn't exist)10:56
daughainszal, I just want the system to recognize and autom9unt external media. Currently I get told it is oiunted at /, and I cant re3mount it.10:57
daughainSorry for the typos, not used to this kb.10:58
szaldaughain: that's not a case for fstab, automounting is governed by udisk (or whatever it's called)10:59
daughainOk, so how do I fix this?10:59
szalin 11.10 that works like a charm here; if this is 12.04, please ask in #ubuntu+111:00
daughain11.10 here, and it doesnt work at all.11:00
daughainDidnt work in 11.04, upgraded hop0ing that would fix it, and it didnt.11:01
dnivrahello. I recently downgraded from kubuntu-backports and now my window switcher and login screen are messed up-neither from backports, nor from 11.10 official repo. i remember that KDE didn't get upgraded automatically when installing backports. is there a similar issue when downgrading?11:01
daughainszal, Am I going to need an tab edit?11:06
rorkdaughain: I have no experience using config files but have you looked at System Settings > Removable media?11:13
daughainrork, Ya, but that doesnt help me mount anything.11:15
daughainCan you comment out a line in mtab same as in fstab?11:19
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daughainbrb reboot11:22
DaughainHmmmm......Seems the first usb drive I put in mounts at /, but any after that mount fine.....????11:40
inlinevalaki magyar van?11:55
szal!hu | inline12:01
ubottuinline: Magyar nyelvű segítséget az #ubuntu-hu csatornán talál12:01
EidelMy volume is very low, i only have one volume controller in kmix. How do i add more?12:16
Peace-Eidel: alsamixer -V all12:16
Peace-Eidel: on a terminal12:16
EidelPeace-: thanks alot!12:17
EidelWierd that kmix doesnt have all of them12:17
Peace-Eidel: it has...12:18
Peace-Eidel: you need to configure what you need12:19
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Peace-Eidel: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/03/10/plasma-desktopf10412.png12:20
EidelPeace-: maybe it doesnt understand my sound card. I have been through every menu and i cant activate more volume controllers12:21
BluesKajHi all12:23
Peace-Eidel: if alsamixer can , kmix can12:23
Peace-BluesKaj: hola granpa12:24
Peace-Eidel: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/03/10/plasma-desktopL10412.png12:24
BluesKajPeace-,  hi , lotsa crashes there ...I prefer to use alsamixer for setting up audio ctrls etc12:26
EidelPeace-: i think its the PulseAudio integration which is the problem12:26
EidelPeace-: I dont even have that option :/12:27
EidelPeace-: which version do you have?12:27
Peace-Eidel: ok so try to remove pulseaudio12:27
Peace-Eidel: pulse could be the problem12:27
EidelBut i need pulse for some of my programs12:28
Peace-Eidel: i am on kubuntu 12.04 for testing12:28
BluesKajEidel,  pulseaudio can work if needed ...I'm not a pulse fan, but it's required in my situation...haven't seen pulse crash yet12:28
Peace-Eidel: well if you need of pulse just use alsamixer -V all12:28
EidelPeace-: ok, i think im gonna try that version then12:28
Peace-Eidel: mmm i am an expert of linux12:28
Peace-well not a lots but i use it since 4 years 512:29
Peace-Eidel: this is a tessters beta release .. keep in mind12:29
Peace-rebootin :D12:32
meNthamy cpu is overclocked 2,4 - 3,012:38
meNthaand if i try to start my kubuntu 11.10 iw doestn start, just restart12:39
meNthaany solution?12:39
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epHP LaserJet p1102w  stopped working a few weeks back after the upgrade to 11.10 (64 bit).   "device not found".    Might be an issue with cups?   I've searched forums, found others with problems but can't fix this without help.  Any help here?15:04
epep it's usb connected, not wireless15:04
teodihi.. I don't have execute permission for a certain partition, how do I get this permission? chmod +x makes no difference.15:26
teodialso, I can't automount without the password of my main login, so my secondary login (who also has sudo access!) can't automount this partition, I always need to provide password of my main login.15:28
tsimpsonteodi: it depends on what filesystem it is, and how it's mounted. only certain filesystems support file permissions, and removable media (like USB sticks etc) are set to disable executable permissions as a security system15:28
teoditsimpson: it's NTFS, I never had this problem when I automounted my windows partition. Or when I automounted this partition from my main login15:28
teodiand I tried to automount it with Sys settings / removable devices / automount on login15:29
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tsimpsonteodi: that applies only to your user, not others15:34
teoditsimpson: I set my settings on this account, I automount it on logging into this account.15:36
tsimpsonI don't think the executable bit is valid on NTFS, or certainly not with the auto-mounted filesystems15:39
tsimpsonso root would have to mount it, eg in /etc/fstab15:40
teodithat's what I'm searching for, what do I add to /etc/fstab ? I mount /media/Narnia, what about that UUID?15:42
tsimpsonteodi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions#NTFS_Partitions should help, just replace "gksudo" with "kdesudo" and "gedit" with "kate"15:55
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K350how to change back to kde's default window decorator?16:29
tsimpsonK350: System Settings -> Default Applications -> Window Manager16:31
K350jag kör compiz som fönsterhanterare . Men jag vill ha kde:s fönster dekorerare16:32
psydroidhi, does anyone (who is preferably from the Netherlands) have a clue why the application at download.belastingdienst.nl/belastingdienst/apps/linux/ib2011_linux.tar.gz doesn't run and how to get it to run on kubuntu 11.10 and 12.04 32-bit and 64-bit x86?16:33
K350tsimpson: I'm using compiz as window manager but I want kde:s window decorator16:33
BluesKajK350, system settings>application appearance>style , choose oxygen16:33
tsimpsonthat's not the window manager, just the style16:34
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tsimpsonselect KWin from System Settings -> Default Applications -> Window Manager  if you want to use kwin16:34
psydroidit had something to do with some font (not necessarily ttf) not being installed, but I can't figure installing which package would solve it16:34
tsimpsonor just run "kwin --replace" if you just want to use kwin for now16:34
psydroidfigure out*16:34
K350uhm, I dont want to change window manager just window decorator16:35
DarthFrogpsydroid: And we're supposed to guess which font it was?16:35
BluesKajK350, system settings>workspace appearance16:35
DarthFrogpsydroid:  When you figure out which font it is, try this command "apt-cache search <fontname>".  It might tell you which package provides <fontname>.16:36
psydroidDarthFrog, one minute, I'll tell you if that command works16:44
psydroidDarthFrog, it's "MS Sans Serif". on the current desktop running Slackware 13.1 everything works, but I want to migrate things to Kubuntu (or Ubuntu)16:51
psydroidapt-cache search can't find this font16:51
psydroidso I guess I'll try Ubuntu and see if does work there as a few people have told me16:52
BluesKajwow, dumping a whole desktop over a font16:57
DarthFrogpsydroid:  Try "sudo apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer"16:57
psydroidwell, not dumping, but it's for an office environment where things simply have to work16:58
psydroidDarthFrog, thanks, I'll try that16:58
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BluesKajothe fonts "work" , but to each his own :)17:00
psydroidit's already installed17:01
psydroidyeah, I have to perform some surgery on kubuntu too, taking libreoffice out because it's too buggy17:02
psydroidthis is pretty the last big thing I need to get to work17:02
psydroidpretty much*17:02
DarthFrogpsydroid:  Try the installation of the package again and post the output in a pastebin.17:03
DarthFrog!pastebin | psydroid17:03
ubottupsydroid: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.17:03
BluesKajI'm trying to figure out why the external drive is recognized with the USB connection , but not with the SATA. I would reather use the SATA since file transfers are so much faster17:04
DarthFrogBluesKaj: Obvious question, is it plugged in?  :-)  Err, is it connected via eSATA?17:05
BluesKajDarthFrog,  I tried mounting with sata , but it would mount only thru the usb. Odd thing is the internal drive is connected to the mobo with SATA. All the SATA connections are enabled in the BIOS17:08
DarthFrogIs the eSATA connection mounted on the motherboard or via a cable from the motherboard to the back plane?17:09
DarthFrogDoes the system see the drive when it's connected via eSATA at all?17:10
BluesKajthere's no backplane connector , The SATA cable passes thru a knock-out on the back , directly to the mobo SATA connection.17:11
BluesKajDarthFrog,  df -h , sudo fdisk -l , show nothing with the SATA17:13
BluesKajneither does the partition manager17:13
DarthFrogBluesKaj: Check the cable connection, check the cable(s).  Something's not making connection.  Could be the port you're using on the mobo.17:14
DarthFrogDoes the drive work when installed internally?17:14
BluesKajI' in the middle of transferring files atm using the usb connection and best is 5Mib/s from wife's W7 pc17:15
DarthFrogTake the dog for a walk and enjoy the day. :-)17:15
BluesKajno dog , but I'll be going out soon to a garage jam and won't be back til much later :)17:16
BluesKajthinking of a sata pci card17:17
DarthFrogHighpoint sells pci-e sata cards.17:17
BluesKajpci-e is already taken17:18
BluesKajonly one pci-e slot17:19
mydogsnameisrudywould like to come and play some with ya BluesKaj17:24
mydogsnameisrudycant get across the river tho ;(17:24
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elkngwhen 12.04 will be released ? 01.04.12 ?17:27
DarthFrogelkng: Ask in #ubuntu+117:27
mydogsnameisrudyapril something i was just told17:27
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BluesKajmydogsnameisrudy,  that would be cool17:33
georgelappieshi all, have any of you seen in umbrello that the attributes of a class do not show in the class view?17:57
DarthFroggeorgelappies: Hi.  This channel is for Kubuntu support, not programming support.17:58
georgelappies o ok, sorry ;)17:58
EvilResistancegeorgelappies, try ##programming17:59
georgelappiesthanks EvilResistance17:59
georgelappiesi tried to install wine (using the repos and the versions installed by PlayOnLinux) to get iTunes to work. For some reason my display is all weird with windows apps running in wine. I have Dell laptop with ATI display. Any help or suggestions please.18:08
EvilResistancegeorgelappies, iTunes is one of those apps that isnt exactly 100% usable with Wine18:08
DarthFroggeorgelappies: There is a PPA for wine.18:08
Riddellgeorgelappies: yes there are lots of bugs in Umbrello, I appologise for this but it is short on developers18:09
DarthFrogBTW, wine 1.4 was released the other day.  It's not in the wine PPA yet, though.18:10
georgelappiesEvilResistance: ok thanks, so I need to keep that damn win7 partition on my laptop still. That is the only app I still need windows for. Do you know if it works 100% with a windows xp vm in virtualbox?18:11
EvilResistancedefine "works 100%" with VBox18:11
EvilResistanceUSB compatibility isnt as reliable18:12
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georgelappiesEvilResistance: it will sync my iphone and ipad with itunes?18:12
EvilResistanceif you can fix the USB connectivity issue, it should, but that's a tiny bit harder on linux18:13
EvilResistanceyou're better off keeping Windows for iTunes18:13
EvilResistancewithout VBox in the way18:13
Riddellgeorgelappies: there are of course many fine music players for Linux, such as Amarok18:13
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RiddelliTunes may have locked you in through music shop purchases I guess18:14
georgelappiesDarthFrog: Are you referring to a seperate PPA for wine in kubuntu alone? So it is more frequently updated etc? If so should I search Launchpad for it. I am new to kubuntu so sorry if i ask the obvious18:14
DarthFroggeorgelappies: http://www.winehq.org/download/ubuntu18:14
georgelappiesthanks DarthFrog18:15
DarthFrogThat page is a bit out of date: version 1.3 isn't beta anymore.  :-)  Presumably wine1.4 will be available RSN.18:15
artaohai ... could anyone help me with joystick issues perhaps? the kde joystick calibration utility shows the joystick as calibrated, but games don't see it that way .. ... seriously pulls in two directions in Flight Gear and other games18:15
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georgelappiesRiddell: No need to appoligise for umbrello, I got all these amazing programming apps for FREE so I understand if there are issues. I am currently second year B.Sc Comp Science so and we are doing Qt at my school so hopefully I will be able to very soon start contributing to the community :)18:17
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Riddellgeorgelappies: ah that's exactly where I was 10 years ago when I started maintaining Umbrello18:22
Riddellgeorgelappies: it turned into a 1st class dissertation which won me awards18:22
Riddellgeorgelappies: so if you're looking to get an award winning dissertation it's up for grabs :)18:23
BluesKajthere's no itunes for linux ...i find that strange18:26
Riddellno we have better applications such as Amarok18:27
BluesKaji'd never use itunes anyway ...amarok isn't ny cuppa tea either ...hate that playlist column on the right , it's clunky and practically useless to me18:28
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Riddellgeorgelappies: ping :)18:29
georgelappiesRiddell, thanks for the guidance. Please see the pm ;)18:31
jmuthi. do you have trouble logging in skype today? with windows there is no trouble but linux skype client gets   p2p connect failed18:40
darthanubisI have kdenetwrok-filesharing installed but don't see where my kcontrol  access in systemsetting is located?18:40
darthanubisdoes that no longer work in 4.8?18:41
artaosoooooo .... no joystick help today?18:41
BluesKajartao, haven't seen any requests for joystick help on this support chat since i joined many yrs ago18:50
artaowell, i'm here now :P18:51
artaothe KDE joystick app shows the joystick as calibrated, but in games is SERIOUSLY pulling in two directions18:51
mydogsnameisrudywonders if i have a old joystick in a box somewere? lol18:51
artaoPITA to takeoff and fly, let alone land18:51
artaomy joystick is a saitek cyborg 3D. old model. 4 axis, 10 buttons, 8 way hat18:52
mydogsnameisrudyare there any ajustments on the joystick?18:52
artaonope. digital joystick18:53
artaono force feedback or anything fancy18:53
artaoi HAVE researched this on the interwebz, and it sounds like linux joystick support is rather ... well ... archaic and barely functional :( :(18:56
mydogsnameisrudyya think so lol   im surprised there is anything at all18:57
artaothat is sad :(19:00
artaoi was hoping to dump windows altogether on this machine .. guess not yet19:00
mydogsnameisrudywell here is your chance to change all that19:00
mydogsnameisrudyyou could be the joystick guru and change the world ;)19:01
artaoLOLZ yeah right19:01
artaoi'm not programmer. at all.19:01
mydogsnameisrudyanyone can learn19:02
artaotrue nuf19:02
pvivekhow to get to kde-configuration menu. I want to remove a script running at startup. I am a newbee. Which file do i've to edit. Would be very glad if someone can guide me19:19
mrafcho001_Anybody else have really large panel icons after recent update?19:56
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Guest95645чо здесь20:35
mrafcho001_The icons on my panel are not resizing with the panel height since I did an update this morning, anyone else experiencing this?20:56
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sluckxzsweet installing 4.8.1 now.21:01
sluckxzkde that is...21:01
shadeslayermrafcho001_: try restarting plasma with : kquitapp plasma-desktop; plasma-desktop : ( type that into krunner )21:11
mrafcho001_shadeslayer: unfortunately it didnt help :(21:34
shadeslayermrafcho001_: weird, this is oneiric?21:34
shadeslayerthat was the only thing I can think of ...21:35
shadeslayerworks just fine on precise21:35
mrafcho001_i should say that I am using the PPA for KDE 4.8 (current version is 4.8.1)21:35
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darthnessdear users, can anyone help me with the no wubidr problem?22:15
darthnessanyone ?22:16
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com/ http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ or http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ while you wait.22:16
kenHi, I was wondering if someone could help me with this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/878148/22:29
kenIt appears that I am being warned that the updates are unsigned22:30
darthnessken try #ubuntu22:34
kenok, I usually get help here22:34
sluckxzken: apt-key has been recommended in several pages i saw.  http://askubuntu.com/questions/75565/why-am-i-getting-authentication-errors-for-packages-from-an-ubuntu-repository22:39
sluckxzalso your uprgrade actually includes an apt update.22:40
sluckxzi had this issue recently as well,  didnt run apt-key and i think it may have resolved with the update your hung on.  perhaps just try the apt related stuff first.  those apparently were authenticated.22:41
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