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boozlerjust installed lubuntu, are there any light weight packages I can install to get "hot corner" features? compiz is out of the question for this old machine...00:53
icerootmaybe my "aptitude why" skills are bad but is the latest dist-upgrade pulling qt4-designer for standard-lubuntu?00:53
Unit193boozler: http://lubuntublog.blogspot.com/2010/09/eyecandy-with-lubuntu.html , http://lubuntublog.blogspot.com/2010/09/eyecandy-again-and-enhanced.html or http://lubuntublog.blogspot.com/2011/12/cairo-composite-manager.html00:56
boozlerUnit193: thank you00:59
Unit193Yeppers.00:59
phillwUnit193: Would you be so kind as to create a wiki page for "customisation"?01:22
phillwUnit193: with the ML discussing what apps are going to be in 12.10, now is a good a time as any :)01:23
Unit193Meh, it{s already on 神癒礁湖{s blog.01:24
phillw??01:24
bananapieDo you know where I can find an article listing the differences in software between lubuntu and ubuntu ( other than the window manager ) ?01:36
bananapiequestion, is he lubuntu CD a 'live' cd ?01:37
bananapieis he lubunu CD a "live" CD ?*01:37
bananapieis the lubuntu CD a "live" CD?* ( the t key on my keyboard is sticky )01:37
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JoseeAntonioRHello! Do you know if Lubuntu can run in a Pentium I?01:58
Unit193Speed and 12.04 wouldn't as I'm sure that doesn't support PAE.02:00
Unit193Well, you'd have to go from mini.02:00
JoseeAntonioRUnit193: And if there's no swap?02:18
Unit193As you still haven't said full specs, I'm going to assume low and say I don't think so.02:18
JoseeAntonioRUnit193: I don't have full specs, the PCs are not mine. I'll check everything beforehand. Thanks02:21
Unit193Remember about 12.04 and that you will need different steps if it doesn't support PAE, as well as the other restrictions of the Ubuntu kernel.02:22
JoseeAntonioRHmm, right.02:23
JoseeAntonioRUnit193: I have a prob, there's no Internet connection in the place where the PCs are, so I can't fetch any packages :S02:26
Unit193!offline02:27
ubottuIf you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. Alternatively, try http://ubottu.com/ljl/apt/ - See also !APTonCD02:27
JoseeAntonioROh, cool! Thanks!02:29
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x31pomoc07:52
cristian_cHi08:10
cristian_cI wanted to add the volume icon on the panel because it had disappeared08:11
cristian_cSo I tried to add it, but did not appear on the desktop08:13
cristian_cThen I discovered that it was a bug08:14
cristian_chttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxpanel/+bug/82465908:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 824659 in lxpanel (Ubuntu) "/usr/lib/lxpanel/plugins/volumealsa.so not showing" [Undecided,Confirmed]08:15
cristian_cBut I did not realize how the user had solved08:16
cristian_cSo I deleted the lxpanel directory in .config and I rebooted the system08:18
cristian_cBut the panel was missing on startup08:19
cristian_ccreating a new folder, from pcmanfm I managed to open a terminal and type lxpanel08:20
cristian_cbut the terminal returns:08:20
cristian_chere is already an instance of LXPanel.  Now to exit08:21
cristian_c*there08:21
cristian_cWhat can I do to restore the panel?08:21
DerPatecristian_c try pkill lxpanel and then restart it you have deleteed the config for the whole bar so it don't apper but started up on boot08:32
Unit193If that doesn't work, whatever changes you may have done, try reverting to see if that helps.08:34
cristian_cI try to logout08:35
cristian_c:)08:35
monserhello09:03
monseri get permission denied when trying to open the mounted partition in pcmanfm09:04
monserthis is happening only for the partition that it is fa3209:04
monserfat3209:04
monseri have not problems with other mounted partitions ntfs09:05
monserwhere is the problem09:05
cristian_cI restored the panel09:37
cristian_c:)09:37
cristian_cI do not know how to see the volume applet on the panel09:38
cristian_c:(09:38
cristian_cDo you have any idea?09:38
cristian_c*ideas09:42
AklsIs 12.04 in beta now?09:49
icerootAkls: yes09:49
cristian_cAkis, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=187044209:51
icerootAkls: but i does not matter if it is alpha or beta, both are NOT designed for normal work09:52
Aklshmmm...09:54
AklsI have to install something, but I don't want to reinstall it 1 month later because of the new release09:54
icerootAkls: you dont have to reinstall09:55
iceroot!upgrade | Akls09:55
ubottuAkls: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade09:55
Aklsa big NO for upgrades09:55
icerootAkls: and also there is no reason to upgrade to the latest version just because it is the newest one09:56
Aklsdid it about 3 times in my life, every time something broke so I had to reinstall anyway...09:56
Aklsbut 12.04 is just 1 month from release, isn't it going to work ok? :)09:57
AklsI understand the risks :>09:57
iceroot2 month09:57
icerootand as i said DONT use 12.04 for normal work at the moment09:57
iceroothm ok 1.5 month09:58
Aklsok :)09:58
icerootand normally the upgrade will not broke if you dont install software from other sources09:59
icerootthe normal (l)ubuntu upgrade is tested very good09:59
icerootbut of course there can be problems so having a backup is always a good idea (not only when upgrading)09:59
icerootand for problems during the upgrade this channel is a good place, so i would suggest install 11.10 and if you need 12.04 later upgrade to that (but not on the first day just because 12.04 is newer)10:00
AklsWTF.10:14
Akls11.10 install does not detect 11.04 and windows installed :\10:15
Aklsdammit!...10:20
smile4everAkls: what's the problem? :o10:21
Aklssmile4ever, I remember ubuntu had very nice feature in installer to backup files from previous install10:22
Aklssmile4ever, but now it thinks that nothing is installed on my hdd, that's not true :\10:22
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smile4everAkls: grub problem? :p10:23
Aklswhy grub problem? O_o10:25
Aklsif I can boot to my old system10:25
smile4everAnd the files are on your hd? :p10:25
Aklsyep10:26
smile4everAkls: Crazy :|10:28
Aklssmile4ever, well, I think I can work around without reinstalling lubuntu10:28
smile4evergreat :) Good luck :)10:28
Aklssmile4ever, why I want to reinstall is because 10.04 started to throw dbus errors when I launch any program10:28
JadedJacobHi.10:29
Aklssmile4ever, I didn't even update or upgrade :\ what happened?10:29
AklsJadedJacob, hi :)10:29
smile4evera config file may be corrupted.. :|10:29
JadedJacobSo "lsb_release -a" in the terminal prints out the ubuntu release version10:29
JadedJacobBut for lubuntu, it still prints "ubuntu 11.04"10:30
JadedJacobIs there a command to print out "lubuntu 11.04" as the release version10:30
Aklssmile4ever, which one? and how can I recover it?10:30
smile4everAkls: did you try google'ing on the exact error you get?10:31
icerootJadedJacob: imo that was discussed on the mailinglist and fixed for 12.0410:31
JadedJacobsweet10:32
Aklssmile4ever, but I don't get any exact error :\10:32
smile4ever:(10:32
smile4everAnyway, I would install Lubuntu 11.10 :)10:32
Aklssmile4ever, network manager stopped to remember wireless keys, kupfer says something about dbus timeout, firefox says same as kupfer10:32
Aklssmile4ever, "Failed to contact configuration server; the most common cause is missing or misconfiguer D-Bus session bus daemon"10:33
smile4everAkls: you tried reinstalling dbus? :p10:33
icerootJadedJacob: hm not fixed for 12.04 but there was something about that on the mailinglist10:33
Aklssmile4ever, how? ^^"10:33
smile4everAkls: http://www.ehow.com/how_7553501_reinstall-dbus.html10:33
Aklssmile4ever, I saw this one. but I can't open synaptic10:34
Aklssmile4ever, it says "wrong password", but I'm sure 101% that the password is correct.10:34
smile4everAkls: try sudo apt-get remove dbus* && sudo apt-get install dbus* in a terminal :)10:35
AklsI'm not sure if it's a good idea :\10:35
icerootAkls: its not a good idea10:35
smile4ever:(10:36
icerootand reinstall on debian based systems is not the solution which is maybe working on windows systems10:36
icerootAkls: is dbus running?10:36
Aklsiceroot, seems like yes to me, but any way to check it?10:36
icerootps aux | grep dbus10:37
Aklsiceroot, well, it gave some output10:43
Aklsiceroot, so seems like yes10:43
Aklshmm.. maybe there's something wrong with my hdd...10:44
JadedJacobis anyone running lubuntu on realy new hardware?10:45
JadedJacobcore i3/i5/i7 etc10:45
Aklsyep, seems like my hdd problem :\\\\10:56
Aklsshows the whole space unallocated10:56
Aklssorry to holy lubuntu for thinking that it was its fault ^_^11:04
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Gege71hello13:16
Gege71i have an error with apt-get / synaptic13:17
Gege71libc6:amd64 2.13-20ubuntu5.1 cannot be configured because libc6:i386 is in a different version (2.13-20ubuntu5)13:17
Gege71anyone can help please ?13:17
Gege71google did'nt help13:17
phillwGege71: which version of lubuntu are you running?13:19
Gege7111.1013:19
phillwfrom a quick look at the ppa page at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/amd64/libc6-dev-i386/2.13-20ubuntu5.1 it seems to be complaining about the architecture of your computer / kernel fighting between 32 bit and 64 bit. My suggestion is to have a read of that page and ensure you have the "requires" and do not have the "conflicts" installed.13:24
Gege71let's see  , thanks :)13:28
phillwGege71: I've called in reinforcements, Jacky is much more up to speed on this sort of stuff!13:29
jalcineGege71: what's your architecture? i386 (32-bt) or amd64?13:29
Gege71amd6413:29
Gege71i tried to remove all package depending of libc6-i386 ... but apt-get doasn't want13:30
jalcineWhat's the name of the application you're trying to install?13:30
Gege71i only try sudo update-upgrade13:30
jalcineYeah, that's kind of dangerous. libc6 is like a bloodcell in the library system.13:30
Gege71at the begininng, update-manager failed13:30
Gege71ok but why i386 version, i didn't want it !13:31
jalcineOdd.13:31
Gege71i only need amd64 package13:31
Gege71:)13:31
jalcineDid you install a i386 system or  64-bit system?13:31
Gege7164 bits of course13:32
phillware you sure you have 64 bit installed?13:32
Gege71uname -a13:33
Gege71Linux ZEUS 3.0.0-16-generic #28-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 27 17:44:39 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux13:33
phillwyup, thats 64 bit :)13:33
jalcineThere might be a package installed that only has a i386 version available.13:34
jalcineBut as to why dpkg would let it install wscapes me.13:34
jalcine*escapes13:34
Gege71"multi-arch" is the answer : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultiarchSpec13:35
jalcineTry "sudo apt-get upgrade -f"13:35
Gege71lol13:36
Gege71ok, doesn't work neither ...13:36
phillwGege71: he has a flakey internet connection.13:36
Gege71hehe13:37
phillwjalcine: have a read of https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/amd64/libc6-dev-i386/2.13-20ubuntu5.1 it may as well be written in Chinese for me, but may give some hints?13:37
* jalcine can't view that page.. the sll block :/13:38
jalcine*ssl13:38
phillwjalcine: http://pastebin.com/xZPLifbP13:39
phillwnot pretty, but it works :)13:40
jalcineHmmm. Interesting library.13:41
jalcineProvides support for i386 apps on amd64.13:42
phillwjalcine: I thought it would interest you :)13:42
Gege71in fact... wine1.3 needs libc6-i38613:43
jalcineThat'd be great if I had a amd64 system, could build apps for other system w/o a problem.13:43
Gege71i would never install it :(13:43
JadedJacobhow do i force ubuntu to show the grub boot loader during boot time?13:43
JadedJacobwhat is the key i use?13:43
phillwjalcine: Gege71 as this is not strictly lubuntu related could you guys switch channels?  #sii is quiet at the moment13:43
JadedJacobahhh i think it's 'shift'13:45
jalcineJadedJacob: you got it.13:45
JadedJacobi'm running ubuntu 10 as a guest machine on windows 713:45
JadedJacobusing virtualbox13:46
JadedJacobi think i'm going to buy a book on linux and grub13:48
phillwJadedJacob: you can download one for free :)13:51
petsoundshi guys, what is the package name for netbook interface in lubuntu?14:50
valdur55petsounds, it's lubuntu-netbook session , log out and select lubuntu-netbook session :)14:52
petsoundshi valdur55 i'm lloking for the package name in packages.ubuntu.com14:55
petsoundsis it nebook EFL ?14:55
petsoundserr i mean netbook-launcher-efl14:57
jalcineo.o You just have to switch sessions, petsounds14:57
valdur55lubuntu-deskop or lubuntu-core package14:59
petsoundsjalcine, i want to download the pkgs so i can install it later on a different netbook :)15:02
petsoundsthe thing is i can't seem to find that interface in debian lxde, so im looking to download the package from ubuntu repo.15:09
Gege71ok it seems i could resolved this problem of libc6-i386 , removing all reference from /var/lib/dpkg/status file15:40
tmkHello everyone15:43
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Guest89283How is everybody doing today?15:43
Guest89283Would anyone happen to know how to get compositing to work within lxde?15:44
Guest89283Soo many people and everyone is soooo quiet.....15:45
Guest89283Dooo deee doooo deeedoooo15:46
Guest89283Cramalama ding dong while playing ping pong all day long and singing a song.15:47
Guest89283Damn.......tough crowd. Like walking into the coma patient ward at the hospital. Lots of people here, all seem to be unconscious.15:48
smile4everbye :)15:54
filo1234hi18:01
JamesSmithhi! need some help; where can i find the sound-settings?18:19
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valdur55alsamixer ?18:28
JamesSmithi don't kown18:37
JamesSmithi'm a totaly noob18:37
JamesSmithi've tried pulse audio18:39
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JamesSmithok, i've found alsamixer18:51
JamesSmithbut my mic is still not working :(18:51
valdur55JamesSmith, you are not noob! You don't just know the right answer yet18:59
JamesSmithsorry, I'm a bigger nood than you are are thinking19:00
JamesSmithok, i will test some different mic-settings19:01
JamesSmith^^19:01
mark76Why does LXMusic disappear from the systray and taskbar when you click play?19:06
valdur55mark76, seg fault... open lxmusic in terminal19:08
valdur55and you see what is lxmusic problem :)19:08
mark76K19:08
mark76HAng on19:08
mark76Is there any way around it?19:10
mark76LIke, has it been fixed in a more recent version than the one available in the Debian 6 repos?19:12
valdur55Alt+F2 -> lxterminal -> lxmusic -> click play -> copy log to www.pastebin.com page :)19:15
mark76It just says segfault19:15
mark76That's it19:15
valdur55ok , then i thinked right :)19:15
valdur55what lubuntu do you use?19:16
mark76Debian19:19
valdur55oneiric and precise use 0.4.4+git20100802-2.119:20
filo1234lubuntu debian? o.019:20
valdur55linux mint debian ?19:20
filo1234lol19:21
mark76Installing xmms2tray seems to help19:21
filo1234valdur55: I'm waiting for lubuntu XP ( ok stop OT ) lol19:21
mark76Debian 6.0.419:22
filo1234mark76: ask #debian then19:23
valdur55mark76, apt-cache policy lxmusic19:24
mark76What do you want to know valdur55?19:25
valdur55oh damn i got it!19:26
mark76What!? :-/19:27
mark76Keep away from me then :p19:28
valdur55squeeze uses 0.4.4+git20100802-1 and oneiric too...19:29
mark76Same problem in both then19:29
mark76I installed Abraca instead19:30
filo1234valdur55:  0.4.4+git20100802-2.1 0 on 12.0419:31
mark76Oh, the version19:32
mark76Hang on19:32
mark760.4.4+git20100802-119:32
mark76Why are the majority of XMMS2 front ends written in QT4?20:06
mark76:|20:06
guntbertthe power button of my laptop has no effect (lubuntu on ubuntu) - the setting in xfce power manager seems to be ignored21:15
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valdur55guntbert, look lubuntu faq page .21:31
guntbertvaldur55: which number do you suggest? I cannot see anything for this problem there - but I may be unseeing :)21:32
valdur55guntbert, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#I_want_to_bind_the_power-button_to_change_computer_state.2C_how_do_I_do_it.3F21:34
guntbertvaldur55: thx, I'll try it21:35
valdur55Should it be by default?21:37
guntbertvaldur55: I beg your pardon?  - I take it I will have to relogin to make it work?21:41
valdur55guntbert, just use alt+f2 and then openbox-lubuntu --replace21:42
guntbertvaldur55: the DE reloaded, but the power key still has no effect21:43
valdur55guntbert, damn... maybe xfce4-pm have some bindings21:45
guntbertvaldur55: I overlooked the output "Requested key "XF86Terminal" does not exist on the display" - I'll have to dig a little with xev - thanks in the meantime :)21:47
valdur55guntbert, i get same error21:48
guntbertvaldur55: the power button isn't even recognized here21:50
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guntbertvaldur55: "thinkvantage button" is recognized - I'll use that for the time being21:52
guntbertand ThinkVantage works :)21:58
darthness dear users, can anyone help me with the no wubidr problem?22:18
mattwj2002hi guys22:51
mattwj2002I need some alsamixer help please!22:51
mattwj2002:)22:51
valdur55!help | mattwj200222:52
ubottumattwj2002: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience22:52
mattwj2002how do you remove the drivers for a sound card so the other one becomes the primary?22:53
mattwj2002valdur55: are you still here?23:03
valdur55mattwj2002, yes23:04
mattwj2002I might have found a solution23:07
mattwj2002but now my mouse isn't working23:07
mattwj2002:(23:07
mattwj2002let me try a reboot23:07
mattwj2002okay that caused my mouse to lock up!23:11
mattwj2002I decided to just disable the built in sound in bios23:12
valdur55mattwj2002, make backup file before editing23:14
mattwj2002I always do23:16
mattwj2002:)23:16
mattwj2002valdur55: I have a question for you23:17
mattwj2002have you heard of the Google Plus Hangout?23:18
valdur55mattwj2002, yes23:18
mattwj2002over in #reprap they have a chatroom it is really cool23:18
mattwj2002maybe something you guys should consider!23:18
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