[00:53] <boozler> just installed lubuntu, are there any light weight packages I can install to get "hot corner" features? compiz is out of the question for this old machine...
[00:53] <iceroot> maybe my "aptitude why" skills are bad but is the latest dist-upgrade pulling qt4-designer for standard-lubuntu?
[00:56] <Unit193> boozler: http://lubuntublog.blogspot.com/2010/09/eyecandy-with-lubuntu.html , http://lubuntublog.blogspot.com/2010/09/eyecandy-again-and-enhanced.html or http://lubuntublog.blogspot.com/2011/12/cairo-composite-manager.html
[00:59] <boozler> Unit193: thank you
[00:59] <Unit193> Yeppers.
[01:22] <phillw> Unit193: Would you be so kind as to create a wiki page for "customisation"?
[01:23] <phillw> Unit193: with the ML discussing what apps are going to be in 12.10, now is a good a time as any :)
[01:24] <Unit193> Meh, it{s already on 神癒礁湖{s blog.
[01:24] <phillw> ??
[01:36] <bananapie> Do you know where I can find an article listing the differences in software between lubuntu and ubuntu ( other than the window manager ) ?
[01:37] <bananapie> question, is he lubuntu CD a 'live' cd ?
[01:37] <bananapie> is he lubunu CD a "live" CD ?*
[01:37] <bananapie> is the lubuntu CD a "live" CD?* ( the t key on my keyboard is sticky )
[01:58] <JoseeAntonioR> Hello! Do you know if Lubuntu can run in a Pentium I?
[02:00] <Unit193> Speed and 12.04 wouldn't as I'm sure that doesn't support PAE.
[02:00] <Unit193> Well, you'd have to go from mini.
[02:18] <JoseeAntonioR> Unit193: And if there's no swap?
[02:18] <Unit193> As you still haven't said full specs, I'm going to assume low and say I don't think so.
[02:21] <JoseeAntonioR> Unit193: I don't have full specs, the PCs are not mine. I'll check everything beforehand. Thanks
[02:22] <Unit193> Remember about 12.04 and that you will need different steps if it doesn't support PAE, as well as the other restrictions of the Ubuntu kernel.
[02:23] <JoseeAntonioR> Hmm, right.
[02:26] <JoseeAntonioR> Unit193: I have a prob, there's no Internet connection in the place where the PCs are, so I can't fetch any packages :S
[02:27] <Unit193> !offline
[02:29] <JoseeAntonioR> Oh, cool! Thanks!
[07:52] <x31> pomoc
[08:10] <cristian_c> Hi
[08:11] <cristian_c> I wanted to add the volume icon on the panel because it had disappeared
[08:13] <cristian_c> So I tried to add it, but did not appear on the desktop
[08:14] <cristian_c> Then I discovered that it was a bug
[08:15] <cristian_c> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxpanel/+bug/824659
[08:16] <cristian_c> But I did not realize how the user had solved
[08:18] <cristian_c> So I deleted the lxpanel directory in .config and I rebooted the system
[08:19] <cristian_c> But the panel was missing on startup
[08:20] <cristian_c> creating a new folder, from pcmanfm I managed to open a terminal and type lxpanel
[08:20] <cristian_c> but the terminal returns:
[08:21] <cristian_c> here is already an instance of LXPanel.  Now to exit
[08:21] <cristian_c> *there
[08:21] <cristian_c> What can I do to restore the panel?
[08:32] <DerPate> cristian_c try pkill lxpanel and then restart it you have deleteed the config for the whole bar so it don't apper but started up on boot
[08:34] <Unit193> If that doesn't work, whatever changes you may have done, try reverting to see if that helps.
[08:35] <cristian_c> I try to logout
[08:35] <cristian_c> :)
[09:03] <monser> hello
[09:04] <monser> i get permission denied when trying to open the mounted partition in pcmanfm
[09:04] <monser> this is happening only for the partition that it is fa32
[09:04] <monser> fat32
[09:05] <monser> i have not problems with other mounted partitions ntfs
[09:05] <monser> where is the problem
[09:37] <cristian_c> I restored the panel
[09:37] <cristian_c> :)
[09:38] <cristian_c> I do not know how to see the volume applet on the panel
[09:38] <cristian_c> :(
[09:38] <cristian_c> Do you have any idea?
[09:42] <cristian_c> *ideas
[09:49] <Akls> Is 12.04 in beta now?
[09:49] <iceroot> Akls: yes
[09:51] <cristian_c> Akis, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1870442
[09:52] <iceroot> Akls: but i does not matter if it is alpha or beta, both are NOT designed for normal work
[09:54] <Akls> hmmm...
[09:54] <Akls> I have to install something, but I don't want to reinstall it 1 month later because of the new release
[09:55] <iceroot> Akls: you dont have to reinstall
[09:55] <iceroot> !upgrade | Akls
[09:55] <Akls> a big NO for upgrades
[09:56] <iceroot> Akls: and also there is no reason to upgrade to the latest version just because it is the newest one
[09:56] <Akls> did it about 3 times in my life, every time something broke so I had to reinstall anyway...
[09:57] <Akls> but 12.04 is just 1 month from release, isn't it going to work ok? :)
[09:57] <Akls> I understand the risks :>
[09:57] <iceroot> 2 month
[09:57] <iceroot> and as i said DONT use 12.04 for normal work at the moment
[09:58] <iceroot> hm ok 1.5 month
[09:58] <Akls> ok :)
[09:59] <iceroot> and normally the upgrade will not broke if you dont install software from other sources
[09:59] <iceroot> the normal (l)ubuntu upgrade is tested very good
[09:59] <iceroot> but of course there can be problems so having a backup is always a good idea (not only when upgrading)
[10:00] <iceroot> and for problems during the upgrade this channel is a good place, so i would suggest install 11.10 and if you need 12.04 later upgrade to that (but not on the first day just because 12.04 is newer)
[10:14] <Akls> WTF.
[10:15] <Akls> 11.10 install does not detect 11.04 and windows installed :\
[10:20] <Akls> dammit!...
[10:21] <smile4ever> Akls: what's the problem? :o
[10:22] <Akls> smile4ever, I remember ubuntu had very nice feature in installer to backup files from previous install
[10:22] <Akls> smile4ever, but now it thinks that nothing is installed on my hdd, that's not true :\
[10:23] <smile4ever> Akls: grub problem? :p
[10:25] <Akls> why grub problem? O_o
[10:25] <Akls> if I can boot to my old system
[10:25] <smile4ever> And the files are on your hd? :p
[10:26] <Akls> yep
[10:28] <smile4ever> Akls: Crazy :|
[10:28] <Akls> smile4ever, well, I think I can work around without reinstalling lubuntu
[10:28] <smile4ever> great :) Good luck :)
[10:28] <Akls> smile4ever, why I want to reinstall is because 10.04 started to throw dbus errors when I launch any program
[10:29] <JadedJacob> Hi.
[10:29] <Akls> smile4ever, I didn't even update or upgrade :\ what happened?
[10:29] <Akls> JadedJacob, hi :)
[10:29] <smile4ever> a config file may be corrupted.. :|
[10:29] <JadedJacob> So "lsb_release -a" in the terminal prints out the ubuntu release version
[10:30] <JadedJacob> But for lubuntu, it still prints "ubuntu 11.04"
[10:30] <JadedJacob> Is there a command to print out "lubuntu 11.04" as the release version
[10:30] <Akls> smile4ever, which one? and how can I recover it?
[10:31] <smile4ever> Akls: did you try google'ing on the exact error you get?
[10:31] <iceroot> JadedJacob: imo that was discussed on the mailinglist and fixed for 12.04
[10:32] <JadedJacob> sweet
[10:32] <Akls> smile4ever, but I don't get any exact error :\
[10:32] <smile4ever> :(
[10:32] <smile4ever> Anyway, I would install Lubuntu 11.10 :)
[10:32] <Akls> smile4ever, network manager stopped to remember wireless keys, kupfer says something about dbus timeout, firefox says same as kupfer
[10:33] <Akls> smile4ever, "Failed to contact configuration server; the most common cause is missing or misconfiguer D-Bus session bus daemon"
[10:33] <smile4ever> Akls: you tried reinstalling dbus? :p
[10:33] <iceroot> JadedJacob: hm not fixed for 12.04 but there was something about that on the mailinglist
[10:33] <Akls> smile4ever, how? ^^"
[10:33] <smile4ever> Akls: http://www.ehow.com/how_7553501_reinstall-dbus.html
[10:34] <Akls> smile4ever, I saw this one. but I can't open synaptic
[10:34] <Akls> smile4ever, it says "wrong password", but I'm sure 101% that the password is correct.
[10:35] <smile4ever> Akls: try sudo apt-get remove dbus* && sudo apt-get install dbus* in a terminal :)
[10:35] <Akls> I'm not sure if it's a good idea :\
[10:35] <iceroot> Akls: its not a good idea
[10:36] <smile4ever> :(
[10:36] <iceroot> and reinstall on debian based systems is not the solution which is maybe working on windows systems
[10:36] <iceroot> Akls: is dbus running?
[10:36] <Akls> iceroot, seems like yes to me, but any way to check it?
[10:37] <iceroot> ps aux | grep dbus
[10:43] <Akls> iceroot, well, it gave some output
[10:43] <Akls> iceroot, so seems like yes
[10:44] <Akls> hmm.. maybe there's something wrong with my hdd...
[10:45] <JadedJacob> is anyone running lubuntu on realy new hardware?
[10:45] <JadedJacob> core i3/i5/i7 etc
[10:56] <Akls> yep, seems like my hdd problem :\\\\
[10:56] <Akls> shows the whole space unallocated
[11:04] <Akls> sorry to holy lubuntu for thinking that it was its fault ^_^
[13:16] <Gege71> hello
[13:17] <Gege71> i have an error with apt-get / synaptic
[13:17] <Gege71> libc6:amd64 2.13-20ubuntu5.1 cannot be configured because libc6:i386 is in a different version (2.13-20ubuntu5)
[13:17] <Gege71> anyone can help please ?
[13:17] <Gege71> google did'nt help
[13:19] <phillw> Gege71: which version of lubuntu are you running?
[13:19] <Gege71> 11.10
[13:24] <phillw> from a quick look at the ppa page at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/amd64/libc6-dev-i386/2.13-20ubuntu5.1 it seems to be complaining about the architecture of your computer / kernel fighting between 32 bit and 64 bit. My suggestion is to have a read of that page and ensure you have the "requires" and do not have the "conflicts" installed.
[13:28] <Gege71> let's see  , thanks :)
[13:29] <phillw> Gege71: I've called in reinforcements, Jacky is much more up to speed on this sort of stuff!
[13:29] <jalcine> Gege71: what's your architecture? i386 (32-bt) or amd64?
[13:29] <Gege71> amd64
[13:30] <Gege71> i tried to remove all package depending of libc6-i386 ... but apt-get doasn't want
[13:30] <jalcine> What's the name of the application you're trying to install?
[13:30] <Gege71> i only try sudo update-upgrade
[13:30] <jalcine> Yeah, that's kind of dangerous. libc6 is like a bloodcell in the library system.
[13:30] <Gege71> at the begininng, update-manager failed
[13:31] <Gege71> ok but why i386 version, i didn't want it !
[13:31] <jalcine> Odd.
[13:31] <Gege71> i only need amd64 package
[13:31] <Gege71> :)
[13:31] <jalcine> Did you install a i386 system or  64-bit system?
[13:32] <Gege71> 64 bits of course
[13:32] <phillw> are you sure you have 64 bit installed?
[13:33] <Gege71> uname -a
[13:33] <Gege71> Linux ZEUS 3.0.0-16-generic #28-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 27 17:44:39 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[13:33] <phillw> yup, thats 64 bit :)
[13:34] <jalcine> There might be a package installed that only has a i386 version available.
[13:34] <jalcine> But as to why dpkg would let it install wscapes me.
[13:34] <jalcine> *escapes
[13:35] <Gege71> "multi-arch" is the answer : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultiarchSpec
[13:35] <jalcine> Try "sudo apt-get upgrade -f"
[13:36] <Gege71> lol
[13:36] <Gege71> ok, doesn't work neither ...
[13:36] <phillw> Gege71: he has a flakey internet connection.
[13:37] <Gege71> hehe
[13:37] <phillw> jalcine: have a read of https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/amd64/libc6-dev-i386/2.13-20ubuntu5.1 it may as well be written in Chinese for me, but may give some hints?
[13:38]  * jalcine can't view that page.. the sll block :/
[13:38] <jalcine> *ssl
[13:39] <phillw> jalcine: http://pastebin.com/xZPLifbP
[13:40] <phillw> not pretty, but it works :)
[13:41] <jalcine> Hmmm. Interesting library.
[13:42] <jalcine> Provides support for i386 apps on amd64.
[13:42] <phillw> jalcine: I thought it would interest you :)
[13:43] <Gege71> in fact... wine1.3 needs libc6-i386
[13:43] <jalcine> That'd be great if I had a amd64 system, could build apps for other system w/o a problem.
[13:43] <Gege71> i would never install it :(
[13:43] <JadedJacob> how do i force ubuntu to show the grub boot loader during boot time?
[13:43] <JadedJacob> what is the key i use?
[13:43] <phillw> jalcine: Gege71 as this is not strictly lubuntu related could you guys switch channels?  #sii is quiet at the moment
[13:45] <JadedJacob> ahhh i think it's 'shift'
[13:45] <jalcine> JadedJacob: you got it.
[13:45] <JadedJacob> i'm running ubuntu 10 as a guest machine on windows 7
[13:46] <JadedJacob> using virtualbox
[13:48] <JadedJacob> i think i'm going to buy a book on linux and grub
[13:51] <phillw> JadedJacob: you can download one for free :)
[14:50] <petsounds> hi guys, what is the package name for netbook interface in lubuntu?
[14:52] <valdur55> petsounds, it's lubuntu-netbook session , log out and select lubuntu-netbook session :)
[14:55] <petsounds> hi valdur55 i'm lloking for the package name in packages.ubuntu.com
[14:55] <petsounds> is it nebook EFL ?
[14:57] <petsounds> err i mean netbook-launcher-efl
[14:57] <jalcine> o.o You just have to switch sessions, petsounds
[14:59] <valdur55> lubuntu-deskop or lubuntu-core package
[15:02] <petsounds> jalcine, i want to download the pkgs so i can install it later on a different netbook :)
[15:09] <petsounds> the thing is i can't seem to find that interface in debian lxde, so im looking to download the package from ubuntu repo.
[15:40] <Gege71> ok it seems i could resolved this problem of libc6-i386 , removing all reference from /var/lib/dpkg/status file
[15:43] <tmk> Hello everyone
[15:43] <Guest89283> How is everybody doing today?
[15:44] <Guest89283> Would anyone happen to know how to get compositing to work within lxde?
[15:45] <Guest89283> Soo many people and everyone is soooo quiet.....
[15:46] <Guest89283> Dooo deee doooo deeedoooo
[15:47] <Guest89283> Cramalama ding dong while playing ping pong all day long and singing a song.
[15:48] <Guest89283> Damn.......tough crowd. Like walking into the coma patient ward at the hospital. Lots of people here, all seem to be unconscious.
[15:54] <smile4ever> bye :)
[18:01] <filo1234> hi
[18:19] <JamesSmith> hi! need some help; where can i find the sound-settings?
[18:28] <valdur55> alsamixer ?
[18:37] <JamesSmith> i don't kown
[18:37] <JamesSmith> i'm a totaly noob
[18:39] <JamesSmith> i've tried pulse audio
[18:51] <JamesSmith> ok, i've found alsamixer
[18:51] <JamesSmith> but my mic is still not working :(
[18:59] <valdur55> JamesSmith, you are not noob! You don't just know the right answer yet
[19:00] <JamesSmith> sorry, I'm a bigger nood than you are are thinking
[19:01] <JamesSmith> ok, i will test some different mic-settings
[19:01] <JamesSmith> ^^
[19:06] <mark76> Why does LXMusic disappear from the systray and taskbar when you click play?
[19:08] <valdur55> mark76, seg fault... open lxmusic in terminal
[19:08] <valdur55> and you see what is lxmusic problem :)
[19:08] <mark76> K
[19:08] <mark76> HAng on
[19:10] <mark76> Is there any way around it?
[19:12] <mark76> LIke, has it been fixed in a more recent version than the one available in the Debian 6 repos?
[19:15] <valdur55> Alt+F2 -> lxterminal -> lxmusic -> click play -> copy log to www.pastebin.com page :)
[19:15] <mark76> It just says segfault
[19:15] <mark76> That's it
[19:15] <valdur55> ok , then i thinked right :)
[19:16] <valdur55> what lubuntu do you use?
[19:19] <mark76> Debian
[19:20] <valdur55> oneiric and precise use 0.4.4+git20100802-2.1
[19:20] <filo1234> lubuntu debian? o.0
[19:20] <valdur55> linux mint debian ?
[19:21] <filo1234> lol
[19:21] <mark76> Installing xmms2tray seems to help
[19:21] <filo1234> valdur55: I'm waiting for lubuntu XP ( ok stop OT ) lol
[19:22] <mark76> Debian 6.0.4
[19:23] <filo1234> mark76: ask #debian then
[19:24] <valdur55> mark76, apt-cache policy lxmusic
[19:25] <mark76> What do you want to know valdur55?
[19:26] <valdur55> oh damn i got it!
[19:27] <mark76> What!? :-/
[19:28] <mark76> Keep away from me then :p
[19:29] <valdur55> squeeze uses 0.4.4+git20100802-1 and oneiric too...
[19:29] <mark76> Same problem in both then
[19:30] <mark76> I installed Abraca instead
[19:31] <filo1234> valdur55:  0.4.4+git20100802-2.1 0 on 12.04
[19:32] <mark76> Oh, the version
[19:32] <mark76> Hang on
[19:32] <mark76> 0.4.4+git20100802-1
[20:06] <mark76> Why are the majority of XMMS2 front ends written in QT4?
[20:06] <mark76> :|
[21:15] <guntbert> the power button of my laptop has no effect (lubuntu on ubuntu) - the setting in xfce power manager seems to be ignored
[21:31] <valdur55> guntbert, look lubuntu faq page .
[21:32] <guntbert> valdur55: which number do you suggest? I cannot see anything for this problem there - but I may be unseeing :)
[21:34] <valdur55> guntbert, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#I_want_to_bind_the_power-button_to_change_computer_state.2C_how_do_I_do_it.3F
[21:35] <guntbert> valdur55: thx, I'll try it
[21:37] <valdur55> Should it be by default?
[21:41] <guntbert> valdur55: I beg your pardon?  - I take it I will have to relogin to make it work?
[21:42] <valdur55> guntbert, just use alt+f2 and then openbox-lubuntu --replace
[21:43] <guntbert> valdur55: the DE reloaded, but the power key still has no effect
[21:45] <valdur55> guntbert, damn... maybe xfce4-pm have some bindings
[21:47] <guntbert> valdur55: I overlooked the output "Requested key "XF86Terminal" does not exist on the display" - I'll have to dig a little with xev - thanks in the meantime :)
[21:48] <valdur55> guntbert, i get same error
[21:50] <guntbert> valdur55: the power button isn't even recognized here
[21:52] <guntbert> valdur55: "thinkvantage button" is recognized - I'll use that for the time being
[21:58] <guntbert> and ThinkVantage works :)
[22:18] <darthness>  dear users, can anyone help me with the no wubidr problem?
[22:51] <mattwj2002> hi guys
[22:51] <mattwj2002> I need some alsamixer help please!
[22:51] <mattwj2002> :)
[22:52] <valdur55> !help | mattwj2002
[22:53] <mattwj2002> how do you remove the drivers for a sound card so the other one becomes the primary?
[23:03] <mattwj2002> valdur55: are you still here?
[23:04] <valdur55> mattwj2002, yes
[23:07] <mattwj2002> I might have found a solution
[23:07] <mattwj2002> but now my mouse isn't working
[23:07] <mattwj2002> :(
[23:07] <mattwj2002> let me try a reboot
[23:11] <mattwj2002> okay that caused my mouse to lock up!
[23:12] <mattwj2002> I decided to just disable the built in sound in bios
[23:14] <valdur55> mattwj2002, make backup file before editing
[23:16] <mattwj2002> I always do
[23:16] <mattwj2002> :)
[23:17] <mattwj2002> valdur55: I have a question for you
[23:18] <mattwj2002> have you heard of the Google Plus Hangout?
[23:18] <valdur55> mattwj2002, yes
[23:18] <mattwj2002> over in #reprap they have a chatroom it is really cool
[23:18] <mattwj2002> maybe something you guys should consider!