[00:01] <philipballew> alright, I will. ususlly at conferences I sleep on the floor, but this should be a treat
[00:01] <pleia2> lol
[00:01] <bkerensa> lol
[00:01] <bkerensa> pleia2: Yeah having an extra $200 is a concern for me... I dont need any incidentals one way or another I will likely make it happen but with my budget for the trip already it seems like it might be pushing it a bit
[00:02] <bkerensa> so I guess I will e-mail the sponsorship person and see about it
[00:02] <pleia2> don't quote me on $200 either ;) it varies by hotel
[00:05] <bkerensa> pleia2: I just checked with the marriott they said they charge $50 per night when you check in
[00:06] <pleia2> gah, $300
[00:06] <bkerensa> so $300 must be available on the card
[00:06] <bkerensa> Yeah
[00:06] <bkerensa> :(
[00:06] <bkerensa> thats really not good
[00:07] <bkerensa> thats means I would need to have readily $300 (Room) + $300 food/bev/taxi and then perhap another hundred or two for emergency
[00:07] <bkerensa> wow
[00:07] <philipballew> I wont have that kinda money, but I'll make it work
[00:08] <pleia2> a month later you get reimbursed, but yeah, up front you need some cash
[00:08] <bkerensa> :(
[00:08] <bkerensa> philipballew: I probably wont either
[00:08] <bkerensa> philipballew: We may be in the same boat
[00:08] <bkerensa> they even hold it for ten business days
[00:08] <bkerensa> :(
[00:09] <philipballew> I'll email them and tell them what's up
[00:09] <bkerensa> philipballew: can you CC me bkerensa@ubuntu.com
[00:09] <bkerensa> tell them I'm in same boat... thats a lot of money
[00:10] <bkerensa> and I already have to bring a lot of money upfront :) and I got bills at home so idk
[00:10] <philipballew> Agreed, After I figure out how to reenable my ppa's here i'll get the email ready
[00:10] <philipballew> upgrading to 12.04 is fun, but a pain...
[00:10] <bkerensa> philipballew: Thanks so much... Just figure one e-mail is better then bomboarding them
[00:10] <philipballew> agreed bkerensa
[00:11] <philipballew> got my question answered though http://askubuntu.com/questions/111645/whats-the-best-way-to-re-enable-ppas-repos-after-an-upgrade
[00:30] <bkerensa> <pleia2> I always forget about this, someone always ends up having a problem as a result
[00:30] <bkerensa> what has been done in past?
[00:31] <pleia2> if they can't check in at all people go to registration and ask the canonical folks for help right then
[00:31] <pleia2> if they check in and then realize they have no money they can do the same, or borrow money from fellow attendees
[00:32] <philipballew> ill get this email started soon bkerensa dont worry. Still swearing at my computer. Should be done soon enough
[00:35] <philipballew> usually after enough time I get it solved
[00:41] <bkerensa> philipballew: What are you upgrading from?
[00:42] <philipballew> bkerensa, 11.10 to 12.04. Disabled all my ppa's no I am trying to renable them. Thankfully I asked on askubuntu and I am going to try  to figure out how to do this http://askubuntu.com/questions/111645/whats-the-best-way-to-re-enable-ppas-repos-after-an-upgrade
[00:42] <bkerensa> hmm
[00:43] <bkerensa> philipballew: sudo sed -i s'/oneiric/precise/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:43] <bkerensa> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade --purge && sudo apt-get clean
[00:43] <bkerensa> and then kick back and wait for half a hour?
[00:43] <bkerensa> :D
[00:43] <bkerensa> or more
[00:43] <philipballew> sounds good to me!
[00:43]  * philipballew copy and paste's
[00:44] <bkerensa> after the upgrade is 100% done I would suggest also trying sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get -f install
[00:44] <bkerensa> which should make sure nothing got broke and fix it hopefully
[00:44] <bkerensa> "D
[00:45] <philipballew> seems fun.
[00:45] <bkerensa> but the first two is what I have done on every upgrade so far without a hitch
[00:45] <philipballew> breaking things is a skill i have
[00:45] <bkerensa> philipballew: its the best fun ever
[00:45] <bkerensa> :D
[00:45] <philipballew> I think ill open and type the email in a google doc
[00:46] <bkerensa> pleia2: so I have a question about a issue thats pickled me for years... Why do some people reply below quote and some above? What is the standard at least in FOSS?
[00:48] <bkerensa> I feel like I'm going against the grain by replying above quote with sig above quote
[00:53] <erichammond> bkerensa: You just asked a religious question where people have very strong opinions on both sides for arbitrary reasons that they each believe are inherently obviously true.
[00:53] <bkerensa> erichammond: oh yeah? :P
[00:53] <pleia2> what erichammond said
[00:54]  * philipballew has no idea what going on
[00:54] <erichammond> I've been on the Internet for nearly three decades.  The standard used to be inline responses, but over the last decade it has moved towards response above and quoted thread below.
[00:54] <philipballew> oh look bkerensa a link that shows me typing a email!!! https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VEJH_e59w-yE4o-HtQPespfSgZ4RXbaOp9gJrP-uoPk/edit
[00:55] <pleia2> I tend to do inline and bottom posting on foss lists, but in general it depends on my audience and sometimes the content
[00:58] <bkerensa> philipballew: the amout of people watching you type is growing
[00:58] <bkerensa> :D
[00:58] <philipballew> what is above and below? I need to know so I can form a die hard opinion thats as strong and stubborn as my love of vi
[00:58] <philipballew> ALl are free to edit!
[00:58] <philipballew> *all
[00:59] <philipballew> usually when I type college papers I tweet the url of the doc and say edit, it works
[01:03] <philipballew> bkerensa, feel free to say whatever else you want and please correct whatever
[01:03] <bkerensa> philipballew: I dont have edit power
[01:03] <bkerensa> ;p
[01:03] <philipballew> nice!!!
[01:03] <bkerensa> Read-Only
[01:03] <bkerensa> :D
[01:04] <pleia2> ok, heading out for the evening
[01:04] <philipballew> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VEJH_e59w-yE4o-HtQPespfSgZ4RXbaOp9gJrP-uoPk/edit
[01:04] <pleia2> good luck :)
[01:04] <philipballew> have fun pleia2
[18:23] <MarkDude> jledbetter, ping
[18:32] <MarkDude> jtatum, maybe :)