| eruditehermit | cnd, hey | 00:08 |
|---|---|---|
| cnd | eruditehermit, howdy | 00:08 |
| eruditehermit | so a couple of things | 00:09 |
| eruditehermit | there are 2 sets of acceleration and sensitivity settings in gnome | 00:09 |
| eruditehermit | mouse and touchpad | 00:09 |
| eruditehermit | what am I supposed to change as a user | 00:09 |
| eruditehermit | if I change the mouse stuff, does it only apply to non touchpad things? | 00:10 |
| eruditehermit | i.e. usb mice | 00:10 |
| cnd | eruditehermit, correct | 00:10 |
| cnd | well, I'm not a gnome developer | 00:11 |
| cnd | but I believe that to be correct | 00:11 |
| eruditehermit | hrm | 00:11 |
| eruditehermit | so I think the touchpad accel and sensitivity work | 00:12 |
| eruditehermit | however, they are really high by default | 00:12 |
| eruditehermit | the sensitivity | 00:12 |
| eruditehermit | especially | 00:12 |
| eruditehermit | as in the lowest sensitivity is really high | 00:12 |
| cnd | what does accel vs sensitivity mean to you? | 00:12 |
| cnd | I don't really know the difference | 00:12 |
| eruditehermit | accel means that if I move my finger fast, I should be able to move my mouse further than if I do it slowly | 00:13 |
| eruditehermit | a dynamic sensitivity? | 00:13 |
| cnd | ok | 00:14 |
| eruditehermit | does that make sense? | 00:14 |
| cnd | yeah | 00:14 |
| cnd | so I don't know exactly who's default is bad | 00:14 |
| cnd | X synaptics input module, or gnome | 00:14 |
| cnd | probably X synaptics, because the gnome default feels fine here | 00:15 |
| cnd | so X synaptics should have picked up on some property of your device and set a different scaling factor | 00:15 |
| eruditehermit | I liked the defaults that the psmouse proto=exps provided | 00:15 |
| eruditehermit | as far as accel and sensitivity | 00:15 |
| eruditehermit | is there a way to query that information | 00:16 |
| eruditehermit | and set it to be the same | 00:16 |
| eruditehermit | also is there a way to obtain more than the gnome gestures | 00:17 |
| eruditehermit | how do I find out if the touchpad accepts 3 finger touch | 00:17 |
| cnd | eruditehermit, no real way to query the exps defaults | 00:19 |
| cnd | exps used the X evdev driver | 00:19 |
| cnd | which has a different way of handling acceleration and sensitivity | 00:19 |
| cnd | eruditehermit, 3 finger gestures are disabled by default in ubuntu because they are reserved for, and may be used by, unity | 00:20 |
| cnd | unfortunately, the only 3 touch gesture in unity is broken right now | 00:20 |
| cnd | but it's being fixed :) | 00:20 |
| cnd | however, you can manually override this if you want | 00:20 |
| cnd | synclient ClickFinger3=2 | 00:20 |
| cnd | synclient TapButton3=2 | 00:20 |
| cnd | will enable middle click emulation through tapping and clicking (if you have a clickpad) | 00:21 |
| eruditehermit | tapping and clicking? | 00:21 |
| cnd | on the touchpad | 00:22 |
| eruditehermit | so if I click with 3 fingers on the touchpad | 00:22 |
| eruditehermit | I will get middle click? | 00:22 |
| eruditehermit | wow | 00:23 |
| eruditehermit | lol | 00:23 |
| eruditehermit | it worked | 00:23 |
| eruditehermit | are there ways to make 3 finger gestures? | 00:23 |
| cnd | eruditehermit, what do you mean? | 00:24 |
| eruditehermit | how does one make this persist? | 00:24 |
| eruditehermit | swipe left with 3 fingers closes a program | 00:25 |
| eruditehermit | lets say | 00:25 |
| eruditehermit | or something like that | 00:25 |
| cnd | if you're using unity, you have to live with the unity gestures | 00:25 |
| cnd | it won't allow you to configure them | 00:25 |
| cnd | if you're not in unity | 00:25 |
| eruditehermit | what are the unity gestures? | 00:25 |
| cnd | you can use the utouch-geis API | 00:25 |
| cnd | the only three touch unity gesture is dragging the window and spread/pinch to maximize/unmaximize | 00:26 |
| cnd | but that gesture is broken right now | 00:26 |
| eruditehermit | ah | 00:26 |
| eruditehermit | so zooming will be gesture enabled | 00:27 |
| Sarvatt | eruditehermit: Option "ClickFinger3" "integer" and Option "TapButton3" "integer" | 00:28 |
| eruditehermit | where do I put that? | 00:29 |
| Sarvatt | http://paste.ubuntu.com/876835/ | 00:30 |
| Sarvatt | save that as /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 00:30 |
| eruditehermit | ah | 00:30 |
| eruditehermit | xorg really needs a persistent settings mechanism | 00:31 |
| eruditehermit | I thought the point was to remove xorg.conf | 00:31 |
| eruditehermit | also | 00:34 |
| eruditehermit | /etc/init/vgaswitcheroo.switch | 00:34 |
| eruditehermit | not being executed anymore | 00:34 |
| Sarvatt | has to have a .conf extension doesn't it? | 00:35 |
| eruditehermit | err | 00:36 |
| eruditehermit | thats what I mean | 00:36 |
| eruditehermit | .conf | 00:36 |
| eruditehermit | seems very temperamental | 00:37 |
| eruditehermit | brb | 00:39 |
| eruditehermit | let me test | 00:39 |
| Sarvatt | darn idr isn't around, was going to ask if there were any plans to cherry-pick all these intel commits to 8.0 branch anytime soon | 00:41 |
| eruditehermit | hmm | 00:49 |
| eruditehermit | that script in /etc/init/vgaswitcheroo.conf isn't working | 00:49 |
| eruditehermit | is there a way to see if it is being called? | 00:49 |
| eruditehermit | and if it is being called, if its working | 00:49 |
| eruditehermit | I swear it was working a few days ago | 00:49 |
| eruditehermit | hey, does anyone have experience with hybrid graphics? | 04:11 |
| Sarvatt | plenty of experience hating it but only on nvidia/intel lenovo where its possible to pick the gpu in the bios, none with ati/intel here | 04:12 |
| eruditehermit | Sarvatt, so remember that init script we worked on a few days ago | 04:12 |
| Sarvatt | that was RAOF but yeah | 04:12 |
| eruditehermit | Sarvatt, it stopped working | 04:12 |
| eruditehermit | yeah collectively | 04:13 |
| eruditehermit | also | 04:13 |
| eruditehermit | whenever I wake up from suspend my power consumption goes up a lot | 04:13 |
| eruditehermit | as if the discrete gpu is switched on again | 04:13 |
| Sarvatt | sudo service vgaswitcheroo start fix it? | 04:13 |
| eruditehermit | however vgaswitcheroo reports DIS as off | 04:13 |
| Sarvatt | ah yeah i have no clue, sounds like it doesnt work over a S3 :( | 04:14 |
| eruditehermit | Sarvatt, sudo service vgaswitcheroo start works | 04:16 |
| eruditehermit | but its not working on bootup | 04:16 |
| Sarvatt | the machines canonical certifies that i have to care about are pretty much just business class ones and dell/lenovo only use ati/intel on consumer class ones | 04:16 |
| * Sarvatt has a strange perspective i guess :) | 04:17 | |
| eruditehermit | hrm | 04:17 |
| eruditehermit | do you know about getting fglrx to work with this? | 04:17 |
| eruditehermit | supposedly it works | 04:17 |
| Sarvatt | tseliot is the best person to ask about that, he wrote the scripts fglrx uses | 04:17 |
| Sarvatt | but he wont be around till monday CET | 04:18 |
| eruditehermit | btw you said ppa-purge is broken? | 04:19 |
| Sarvatt | yeah, it doesn't know about multiarch | 04:19 |
| Sarvatt | it just tries to purge the native arch packages and leaves the :i386 stuff which breaks things bad | 04:19 |
| eruditehermit | so how do I go about doing this properly? | 04:20 |
| Sarvatt | http://paste.ubuntu.com/877015/ | 04:20 |
| Sarvatt | thats what i use to purge edgers, but you it'll install some crap you dont have installed now | 04:21 |
| Sarvatt | like -dev packages | 04:21 |
| * Sarvatt really needs to fix ppa-purge one of these days... | 04:21 | |
| Sarvatt | cairo libdrm and mesa :i386 packages really screw it up | 04:23 |
| Sarvatt | since anyone with wine installed has that | 04:24 |
| eruditehermit | hrm | 04:24 |
| eruditehermit | it doesn't quite work | 04:24 |
| Sarvatt | which is like everyone that cares to use edgers | 04:24 |
| eruditehermit | it has some more dependencies that break it | 04:24 |
| Sarvatt | had even more packages than that installed? | 04:24 |
| eruditehermit | libpixman-1-dev/precise libpixman-1-0/precise libpciaccess-dev/precise libpciaccess0:i386/precise | 04:24 |
| eruditehermit | and more | 04:24 |
| eruditehermit | everytime I add one | 04:24 |
| eruditehermit | it complains about more | 04:24 |
| eruditehermit | lol | 04:24 |
| Sarvatt | oh yeah pixman is new | 04:24 |
| Sarvatt | since i purged it last | 04:25 |
| Sarvatt | add libpixman-1-dev/precise libpixman-1-0/precise libpixman-1-0:i386/precise libpciaccess-dev/precise libpciaccess0/precise libpciaccess0:i386/precise to it | 04:26 |
| eruditehermit | yep that did it | 04:27 |
| eruditehermit | I was missing one of them | 04:27 |
| eruditehermit | lol | 04:27 |
| Sarvatt | cool beans, sorry about the trouble, its such a pain in the ass | 04:27 |
| Sarvatt | forgot ricotz updated those two libs today | 04:27 |
| eruditehermit | oh thank you so much for putting up with my questions | 04:27 |
| eruditehermit | sorry about bothering you guys | 04:27 |
| eruditehermit | the things not working on my laptop are slowly being fixed | 04:28 |
| Sarvatt | i uploaded new synaptics and evdev that should work but they still haven't built | 04:28 |
| eruditehermit | touchpad finally works a year after I bought it | 04:28 |
| Sarvatt | yeah sforshee fixed alps to not suck | 04:28 |
| Sarvatt | that was freaking awesome :) | 04:28 |
| eruditehermit | yeah | 04:28 |
| eruditehermit | that fixed so many laptops | 04:28 |
| eruditehermit | finally multitouch on linux | 04:28 |
| Sarvatt | like all dells in the past year | 04:28 |
| eruditehermit | all dells in the past 3 years | 04:29 |
| eruditehermit | so the broken parts on my machine are hybrid GPU | 04:29 |
| Sarvatt | well alps wasnt used across the whole line till sandybridge, was rare before that | 04:29 |
| eruditehermit | light sensor | 04:29 |
| eruditehermit | and power consumption | 04:29 |
| Sarvatt | that was like entirely rc6 being enabled by default | 04:30 |
| eruditehermit | well | 04:30 |
| eruditehermit | I still have issues | 04:30 |
| eruditehermit | with my hybrid GPU turning on randomly | 04:30 |
| eruditehermit | and even with all the power savings | 04:30 |
| eruditehermit | it still only gets 3hrs | 04:30 |
| eruditehermit | vs 5-6 on windows | 04:30 |
| eruditehermit | which is a lot better than the 1hr I was getting | 04:31 |
| eruditehermit | =p | 04:31 |
| eruditehermit | also | 04:31 |
| eruditehermit | how to make video players use intel vaapi | 04:31 |
| eruditehermit | and flash plugin to use vaapi | 04:31 |
| Sarvatt | sudo apt-get install i965<tab> | 04:32 |
| Sarvatt | oh flash i dont think that uses vaapi at all | 04:32 |
| Sarvatt | but the va 965 drivers are a separate package now | 04:33 |
| eruditehermit | do you mean sudo apt-get install i965* | 04:33 |
| eruditehermit | also I have that driver installed | 04:33 |
| eruditehermit | but my CPU usage spikes when playing videos | 04:33 |
| Sarvatt | i965-va-driver is what you need to make va work | 04:33 |
| Sarvatt | the package name | 04:33 |
| eruditehermit | yeah I have that | 04:34 |
| Sarvatt | that should totally be a recommends or suggests.. | 04:34 |
| eruditehermit | it should be a depends | 04:35 |
| eruditehermit | lol | 04:35 |
| eruditehermit | not sure why someone wouldn't want it | 04:35 |
| Sarvatt | agreed :) | 04:35 |
| Sarvatt | because they use fglrx and want to save 50kb disk space? | 04:35 |
| eruditehermit | or do suggests get pulled automatically | 04:35 |
| Sarvatt | people are weird | 04:35 |
| Sarvatt | recommends do i think | 04:35 |
| eruditehermit | then recommends is fine | 04:35 |
| eruditehermit | so if someone wants to remove it they can | 04:35 |
| eruditehermit | but by default it should be installed | 04:35 |
| Sarvatt | Uncompressed Size: 28.7 k | 04:37 |
| Sarvatt | even less than i thought | 04:37 |
| Sarvatt | 2.7kb compressed size on the livecd | 04:38 |
| eruditehermit | so how do I test if it is being used when I play a video? | 04:38 |
| Sarvatt | think i'll file that bug :) | 04:38 |
| Sarvatt | eruditehermit: what playback app? | 04:38 |
| eruditehermit | lets say totem | 04:38 |
| eruditehermit | or vlc | 04:38 |
| Sarvatt | depends on which you're using, its enabled different ways | 04:38 |
| Sarvatt | hmm | 04:39 |
| Sarvatt | totem is weird, i think that uses gstreamer-vaapi | 04:39 |
| Sarvatt | vlc is weird too | 04:39 |
| Sarvatt | you go to INPUT codecs | 04:39 |
| Sarvatt | and check the use gpu accelerated decoding | 04:40 |
| Sarvatt | vainfo will tell you what your gpu supports | 04:40 |
| Sarvatt | and hope your videos arent like mine encoded in h264 hi10p profile that cant be accelerated by any gpu | 04:42 |
| Sarvatt | (anime) | 04:42 |
| Sarvatt | i'm not sure how you make sure the upstart script is used every boot though | 04:43 |
| Sarvatt | i thought it ran every script in /etc/init/ at boot, maybe the radeon hasn't loaded when it tries to run? | 04:44 |
| Sarvatt | (sometimes, making it racy) | 04:44 |
| Sarvatt | there might be a conditional you can throw in there to make it wait until its ready, lessee | 04:44 |
| Sarvatt | no, i remember what RAOF pasted you waited until radeon loaded | 04:45 |
| Sarvatt | maybe add the vgaswitcheroo stuff to /etc/init/plymouth.conf? | 04:46 |
| Sarvatt | hmm no radeon is usually modprobed by xserver which would be well after plymouth starts sometimes, especially in a dual gpu scenario | 04:47 |
| Sarvatt | err lightdm i meant there instead of plymouth | 04:47 |
| Sarvatt | and (drm-device-added card0 PRIMARY_DEVICE_FOR_DISPLAY=1 | 04:48 |
| Sarvatt | would be satisfied by the intel being ready | 04:48 |
| eruditehermit | hrm | 04:49 |
| eruditehermit | why wouldn't the upstart script work as is? | 04:49 |
| eruditehermit | it should wait for both intel and radeon | 04:49 |
| Sarvatt | radeon being modprobed isnt enough, it takes a long time to finish loading, we hit bugs with that many times in the past | 04:49 |
| eruditehermit | ah I see | 04:50 |
| Sarvatt | (just thinking out loud, might be wrong) | 04:50 |
| eruditehermit | it doesn't wait till its finished? | 04:50 |
| eruditehermit | it fires off scripts after they just start? | 04:50 |
| Sarvatt | nope it just checks if its loaded before running and probably runs the same time that its modprobed, can ya paste it? | 04:51 |
| broder | it's not critical that the radeon card be turned off *immediately*, right? | 04:51 |
| eruditehermit | the script? | 04:51 |
| broder | so just add a sleep 3 or something | 04:51 |
| Sarvatt | broder: nope | 04:51 |
| Sarvatt | oh yeah, friggin easy solution! | 04:51 |
| broder | :) | 04:51 |
| Sarvatt | eruditehermit: do what he says, add a sleep 3 :) | 04:51 |
| Sarvatt | friday night, beer oclock, brain not working obviously | 04:52 |
| eruditehermit | http://paste.ubuntu.com/877036/ | 04:52 |
| eruditehermit | like that? | 04:52 |
| Sarvatt | eruditehermit: perfect | 04:52 |
| eruditehermit | so is there a way to do stuff before suspend and after resume | 04:53 |
| eruditehermit | I want to turn all GPUs on and then off on resume | 04:53 |
| Sarvatt | have ya googled vgaswitcheroo suspend? | 04:54 |
| broder | eruditehermit: put http://paste.ubuntu.com/877039/ in /etc/pm/sleep.d/00_vgaswitcheroo | 04:55 |
| broder | possibly chmod +x it | 04:55 |
| broder | you did say that echoing OFF back into the switcheroo node fixes it, right? | 04:55 |
| eruditehermit | I think so | 04:56 |
| eruditehermit | well I'll do an ON first | 04:56 |
| eruditehermit | then off | 04:56 |
| Sarvatt | eruditehermit: its gstreamer0.10-vaapi | 05:01 |
| Sarvatt | for totem | 05:01 |
| Sarvatt | i'm not sure if its automatic that it'll use it though, probably is | 05:01 |
| eruditehermit | hmm I already have that too | 05:02 |
| Sarvatt | tjaalton: wth is that package name? :P | 05:02 |
| eruditehermit | but weird | 05:03 |
| eruditehermit | power usage goes from 13W to 26W when playing videos | 05:03 |
| Sarvatt | eruditehermit: not surprised, i dont recommend using vaapi at all :) | 05:04 |
| eruditehermit | how come? | 05:04 |
| Sarvatt | vaapi is a joke, it uses as much cpu as software rendering | 05:04 |
| Sarvatt | plus you're running the gpu at higher voltages/clock speeds because its being used | 05:05 |
| eruditehermit | hmm | 05:05 |
| eruditehermit | my system is running at 13-15W | 05:05 |
| eruditehermit | need to get it to 8-10W to match windows | 05:05 |
| Sarvatt | its nothing like vdpau on nvidia where the cpu isnt stressed | 05:06 |
| eruditehermit | Linux kernel is power hungry | 05:06 |
| eruditehermit | ok | 05:07 |
| eruditehermit | let me test my new startup script | 05:07 |
| eruditehermit | brb | 05:07 |
| eruditehermit | thanks Sarvatt, broder | 05:07 |
| Sarvatt | increase the sleep if it doesnt work, 3 seconds really should be plenty though | 05:07 |
| eruditehermit | lol | 05:10 |
| eruditehermit | so it works! | 05:10 |
| eruditehermit | but another annoyance I forgot about | 05:10 |
| eruditehermit | brightness settings do not persist | 05:10 |
| eruditehermit | nor do bluetooth being on/off | 05:10 |
| Sarvatt | its more like X starts at 8 seconds into the boot on a fast ssd, radeon hasnt finished loading by then, a second later its not ready and there is corruption on the screen from the plymouth->x transition before it was ready that was a problem | 05:11 |
| Sarvatt | oh cool | 05:11 |
| eruditehermit | so many things don't persist | 05:11 |
| eruditehermit | xinput settings too | 05:11 |
| Sarvatt | eruditehermit: thats what you get for buying a linux unfriendly sony :) | 05:12 |
| eruditehermit | does it persist on other machines? | 05:12 |
| eruditehermit | actually this machine has been pretty good | 05:12 |
| eruditehermit | Dell's were a lot worse | 05:12 |
| eruditehermit | their mice drove me crazy | 05:12 |
| eruditehermit | this mouse was usable even with psmouse | 05:12 |
| eruditehermit | err | 05:12 |
| eruditehermit | proto=exps | 05:12 |
| Sarvatt | they're like the only oem besides apple that doesnt have any vested interest in making linux work, fujistsu would be number 2 close behind them in bios bugs and lack of platform drivers taking care of those things :) | 05:13 |
| eruditehermit | surprising that everything mostly works then | 05:14 |
| eruditehermit | just the ati thing | 05:14 |
| eruditehermit | and then general linux kernel power hungry ness | 05:14 |
| Sarvatt | yea that ati thing is a problem for everyone, hybrid graphics are annoying :) | 05:15 |
| eruditehermit | I guess the light sensor isn't hooked up | 05:15 |
| eruditehermit | but the rest of it works | 05:15 |
| Sarvatt | no driver for it im sure | 05:15 |
| eruditehermit | honestly dell had shitty laptops last year | 05:16 |
| eruditehermit | actually everyone did | 05:16 |
| eruditehermit | when I got this | 05:16 |
| eruditehermit | I wanted something small and light | 05:16 |
| eruditehermit | everyone was making big and heavy | 05:16 |
| eruditehermit | this year people have caught on | 05:16 |
| eruditehermit | ultrabooks | 05:16 |
| eruditehermit | choice was apple | 05:16 |
| eruditehermit | and sony | 05:16 |
| Sarvatt | yeah agreed | 05:17 |
| Sarvatt | i went apple | 05:17 |
| eruditehermit | and sony was lighter/more powerful | 05:17 |
| Sarvatt | but the only other option was sony | 05:17 |
| eruditehermit | even apple at the time | 05:17 |
| eruditehermit | only had the air | 05:17 |
| eruditehermit | air was 3lbs | 05:17 |
| eruditehermit | pro was 4.5 | 05:17 |
| eruditehermit | mine is 3.5 with the power of the pro | 05:17 |
| Sarvatt | oh ok i waited till june for sandybridge airs, those are awesome :) | 05:17 |
| eruditehermit | I got it february | 05:18 |
| Sarvatt | but yeah GPU blows | 05:18 |
| Sarvatt | i have a 17" laptop with a gtx 460m for that | 05:18 |
| eruditehermit | lol its good in windows | 05:18 |
| eruditehermit | i have an i7! | 05:18 |
| eruditehermit | i7 and discrete GPU | 05:18 |
| Sarvatt | that you cant use? | 05:18 |
| eruditehermit | at 3.5lbs | 05:18 |
| eruditehermit | well | 05:18 |
| eruditehermit | I can use it in windows | 05:19 |
| Sarvatt | :( | 05:19 |
| Sarvatt | yeah | 05:19 |
| eruditehermit | getting it to work with fglrx is the trick | 05:19 |
| eruditehermit | would be cool if X could hot swap GPUs | 05:19 |
| Sarvatt | the thing is, ati only cares about people who ship linux and have the oems escallate problems to them | 05:19 |
| eruditehermit | read something on phoronix yesterday about it being a possibility | 05:19 |
| Sarvatt | which pretty much wont ever be sony | 05:20 |
| eruditehermit | HP and dell have nice ultrabooks now | 05:20 |
| eruditehermit | more choice | 05:20 |
| Sarvatt | i like ux31 atm personally | 05:21 |
| eruditehermit | but really | 05:21 |
| eruditehermit | brightness not being remembered | 05:21 |
| eruditehermit | that isn't a sony problem | 05:21 |
| eruditehermit | its a gnome problem right? | 05:21 |
| eruditehermit | or x | 05:21 |
| Sarvatt | no thats actually a bios problem afaik | 05:21 |
| Sarvatt | i could be wrong | 05:21 |
| Sarvatt | the brightness level isnt stored anywhere on your system | 05:22 |
| Sarvatt | its up to the bios to remember what you were at before, is it right on the next POST? | 05:22 |
| eruditehermit | I just have to lower it on every boot once gnome is up | 05:22 |
| Sarvatt | if its bright again on the bios screens the next boot linux wouldn't be what you blame | 05:23 |
| eruditehermit | do you have any experience with fglrx at all? | 05:24 |
| eruditehermit | I am going to try something crazy | 05:24 |
| Sarvatt | hardly any | 05:24 |
| eruditehermit | lol | 05:24 |
| eruditehermit | to USE it | 05:24 |
| Sarvatt | i used it maybe 1 hour in my life :P | 05:24 |
| Sarvatt | just to see if new driver releases worked | 05:25 |
| eruditehermit | with nvidia | 05:25 |
| eruditehermit | can you switch GPU without restarting X? | 05:25 |
| Sarvatt | no | 05:26 |
| eruditehermit | well | 05:27 |
| Sarvatt | you cant do that on anything due to how X works | 05:27 |
| eruditehermit | lets see how fglrx does | 05:27 |
| eruditehermit | brb | 05:27 |
| eruditehermit | hrm | 05:39 |
| eruditehermit | failure | 05:39 |
| eruditehermit | the fglrx package in precise seems old | 05:41 |
| eruditehermit | and not to work with hybrid | 05:41 |
| Sarvatt | it is old, because the one that works properly was released 2 days ago, the goal is to have the one released next week in final precise | 05:41 |
| eruditehermit | next week? | 05:42 |
| eruditehermit | they are releasing another one | 05:42 |
| Sarvatt | or the week after, sometime soon | 05:42 |
| Sarvatt | they got delayed for the feb release | 05:42 |
| eruditehermit | I see | 05:42 |
| Sarvatt | jan release was still as broken as the one in there now | 05:42 |
| eruditehermit | the link is down | 05:43 |
| eruditehermit | on their website | 05:43 |
| Sarvatt | was no feb release, feb catalyst was released 2 days ago | 05:43 |
| eruditehermit | for 12-2 | 05:43 |
| Sarvatt | safe to say if its broken in the precise one it'll still not work though :( | 05:44 |
| eruditehermit | if it is broken in 11-11 in precise? | 05:45 |
| eruditehermit | hopefully they fixed it all to work | 05:45 |
| eruditehermit | seems like it does a lot of moving of other libs around | 05:45 |
| eruditehermit | regular libgl etc | 05:45 |
| Sarvatt | its just a minor increment to the 12-2 one coming out real soon now, they skipped the february release and released an early version of marches for 12-2 | 05:45 |
| eruditehermit | yeah | 05:45 |
| Sarvatt | you can build your own version from the ati.com one easily though no need to use the distro packages | 05:46 |
| eruditehermit | any idea where to get it from? | 05:46 |
| Sarvatt | like --build Ubuntu/precise | 05:46 |
| eruditehermit | their link is down | 05:46 |
| Sarvatt | http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/amd-driver-installer-12-2-x86.x86_64.run works for me | 05:47 |
| eruditehermit | Duplicate headers received from server | 05:47 |
| eruditehermit | wow it works with wget | 05:47 |
| eruditehermit | chrome barfs for some reason | 05:48 |
| Sarvatt | one sec uploading it | 05:48 |
| Sarvatt | oh ok | 05:48 |
| Sarvatt | the website is all kinds of messed up in chrome here | 05:48 |
| Sarvatt | had to pick the driver with the keyboard | 05:48 |
| eruditehermit | yeah | 05:48 |
| Sarvatt | ./amd-driver-installer-12-2-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/precise it is | 05:50 |
| Sarvatt | it doesnt work on i386 | 05:50 |
| Sarvatt | another reason it probably hasnt been uploaded by now | 05:50 |
| eruditehermit | --buildandinstallpkg is what I use | 05:50 |
| eruditehermit | lol | 05:50 |
| Sarvatt | http://ubuntuone.com/1UXKtX6u65jOGDrNpyWHyY if you didnt manage to get it | 05:53 |
| Sarvatt | gotta use my 50gb ubuntuone storage somehow | 05:53 |
| eruditehermit | wget was able to get it for me | 05:53 |
| eruditehermit | strange that chrome didn't like it | 05:53 |
| eruditehermit | I thought it was down | 05:54 |
| Sarvatt | Version 19.0.1061.1 dev | 05:54 |
| Sarvatt | working fine there | 05:54 |
| eruditehermit | 19??? | 05:54 |
| eruditehermit | lol | 05:54 |
| eruditehermit | I have 17 | 05:54 |
| Sarvatt | oh i must be 2 days ahead of you then | 05:55 |
| Sarvatt | dev channel :) | 05:55 |
| eruditehermit | stable is 17 still | 05:55 |
| eruditehermit | lol | 05:55 |
| eruditehermit | but yeah | 05:55 |
| eruditehermit | chrome was at version 2 a few days ago | 05:55 |
| eruditehermit | ok | 05:56 |
| eruditehermit | time to try new fglrx | 05:56 |
| eruditehermit | brb | 05:56 |
| Sarvatt | looks like that went well :) | 06:33 |
| tjaalton | Sarvatt: the -vaapi part?blame ustream :) | 06:49 |
| Sarvatt | well i tried to install gstreamer-vaapi like the source package name :) | 06:49 |
| Sarvatt | was more complaining about the 0.10 part | 06:50 |
| Sarvatt | but yeah thats how gstreamer crap is namespaced just my own screwup | 06:51 |
| tjaalton | yep | 06:53 |
| tjaalton | besides, it triggers bug 946742 | 06:53 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 946742 in intel-vaapi-driver (Ubuntu) "Shotwell crashes on start with gstreamer0.10-vaapi" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/946742 | 06:53 |
| Sarvatt | oh FUN | 06:54 |
| tjaalton | fixed in upstream master, but would rather know which commit | 06:54 |
| Sarvatt | http://cgit.freedesktop.org/vaapi/intel-driver/log/ is taking forever to load | 06:56 |
| Sarvatt | at least its hard to hit, have to purposefully install 2 things to hit it | 06:57 |
| tjaalton | nah, just browse with nautilus to a folder where you have videos :) | 06:58 |
| Sarvatt | i965-va-driver and the gstreamer0.10-vaapi thing | 06:58 |
| tjaalton | oh | 06:58 |
| tjaalton | yeah | 06:58 |
| Sarvatt | i like how cedarview pvr va crap doesnt even work with it that you went out of your way to add it for :P | 07:00 |
| Sarvatt | tjaalton: hmm nautilus is fine here | 07:04 |
| Sarvatt | on snb | 07:04 |
| Sarvatt | video folder, thumbnails arent killing anything | 07:04 |
| Sarvatt | was gonna bisect but need to reproduce first :) | 07:06 |
| Sarvatt | shotwell is just giving generic video thumbnails, bah | 07:08 |
| tjaalton | ok, fails here | 07:09 |
| Sarvatt | http://ubuntuone.com/6BjApmzC9kzm1HyQSVm8fB (the one to the right of to the cursor) | 07:10 |
| Sarvatt | what kinda videos do you have? avi? | 07:11 |
| * Sarvatt browses to the NAS where all his videos are | 07:12 | |
| tjaalton | guess I tried it with bigbuckbunny | 07:12 |
| tjaalton | meh, resume fail | 07:12 |
| Sarvatt | argh i think i did something so it didnt thumbnail videos and cant remember what it was | 07:14 |
| tjaalton | ok so is it unity fail when I get a blank screen, but the pwd dialog is obviously working | 07:15 |
| Sarvatt | oh | 07:15 |
| Sarvatt | shotwell-video-thumbnailer: gen6_mfd.c:844: gen6_mfd_avc_ref_idx_state: Assertion `frame_idx < (sizeof(gen6_mfd_context->reference_surface) / sizeof((gen6_mfd_context->reference_surface)[0]))' failed. | 07:15 |
| tjaalton | and the mouse cursor changes when it's moved around | 07:15 |
| Sarvatt | i got that to stderr launching it in a terminal, thats from intel-driver | 07:15 |
| tjaalton | yeah, unity replace fixed it.. | 07:15 |
| tjaalton | or not | 07:17 |
| tjaalton | Sarvatt: yeah that's the one | 07:17 |
| Sarvatt | http://cgit.freedesktop.org/vaapi/intel-driver/commit/src/gen6_mfd.c?id=368731d104da84605fcf6683d6ce014916fe76b0 | 07:18 |
| tjaalton | looks plausible | 07:22 |
| Sarvatt | only commit that touched that function between the two versions but yeah | 07:29 |
| Sarvatt | doesn't apply easy to test :) | 07:30 |
| tjaalton | yeah I tried something and came to the same conclusion.. not easy to just pull something.. | 07:31 |
| tjaalton | so I asked the author if there's going to be a release soon but he didn't reply | 07:32 |
| Sarvatt | git cherry-pick 99ded53e66af1903f1d58ffbc24404d435a6de84; git cherry-pick 99ded53e66af1903f1d58ffbc24404d435a6de84 gets it to apply easily | 07:35 |
| Sarvatt | got it building now, wish i could make it crash | 07:35 |
| Sarvatt | but still i should be able to tell if that assertion is gone | 07:35 |
| tjaalton | right | 07:35 |
| Sarvatt | no assertion after cherry-picking those two | 07:36 |
| tjaalton | hehe, thanks | 07:36 |
| tjaalton | you can rest now :) | 07:36 |
| Sarvatt | http://ubuntuone.com/6R5dmBssdYVJtouXzcciv6 if you want to check it | 07:39 |
| Sarvatt | i965-va-driver and libva are in collab-maint and a friggin nightmare to update | 07:40 |
| Sarvatt | as bad as libxcb was a year ago | 07:40 |
| tjaalton | nightmare how? | 07:41 |
| * Sarvatt is spoiled by X packages | 07:41 | |
| Sarvatt | changes have to git in git, autoreconf via a patch? | 07:41 |
| Sarvatt | err have to go in git | 07:41 |
| Sarvatt | or did that change too.. | 07:41 |
| tjaalton | oh | 07:41 |
| * Sarvatt absolutely hates autoreconf via a patch | 07:41 | |
| Sarvatt | like wacom in debian | 07:41 |
| tjaalton | yeah that's stupid | 07:42 |
| tjaalton | another thing is importing tarballs when upstream uses git.. | 07:42 |
| tjaalton | like, what? | 07:42 |
| Sarvatt | the git-buildpackage workflow? | 07:43 |
| Sarvatt | aka nouveau? | 07:43 |
| Sarvatt | xterm | 07:43 |
| Sarvatt | oh xterm doesnt use git nevermind :) | 07:43 |
| tjaalton | well it should work fine with upstream branches from upstream git | 07:43 |
| Sarvatt | ricotz: tell me if i broke input on edgers :) | 07:58 |
| * Sarvatt isnt using it and apparently evdev was broken before | 07:58 | |
| Sarvatt | tjaalton: hmm so the actual driver is in libva-intel-vaapi-driver not i965-va-driver | 08:04 |
| * Sarvatt only installed i965-va-driver testing shotwell | 08:04 | |
| Sarvatt | so disregard my saying i didnt hit the assert :) | 08:04 |
| Sarvatt | no clue what triggered it then | 08:04 |
| ricotz | Sarvatt, havent updated to your uploads yet ;), and the scrolling-brokenness was on the gtk3 side which was fixed in git master | 08:05 |
| ricotz | Sarvatt, maybe you have an opinion to add https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libpciaccess/+bug/950985 | 08:06 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 950985 in libpciaccess (Ubuntu) "FFe: Sync libpciaccess 0.13-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] | 08:06 |
| Sarvatt | http://ubuntuone.com/6kx60S7s3RixNNpIuw6aea is libva-intel-vaapi-driver | 08:07 |
| eruditehermit | Sarvatt, still about? | 11:38 |
| FernandoMiguel | darn..... compiz/unity are fighting over Alt+Tab control :/ | 19:03 |
| eruditehermit | hello! | 20:33 |
| eruditehermit | Sarvatt, you about? | 20:38 |
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