[06:09] <magespawn> good morning all
[06:23] <magespawn> http://slexy.org/view/s2eFgXZOFR
[06:26] <magespawn> Miight be the Apache I have installed.
[07:08] <Kilos> morning superfly and others
[07:09] <magespawn> morning Kilos
[07:09] <Kilos> hey magespawn , you early hey
[07:09] <Kilos> you got that command
[07:09] <magespawn> I think it may the apache server I have installed
[07:09] <magespawn> been here awhile too
[07:10] <magespawn> http://slexy.org/view/s2eFgXZOFR
[07:10] <Kilos> lsof -i:8080
[07:10] <Kilos> did you run that
[07:10] <magespawn> no that returns nothing
[07:10] <Kilos> should tell you what is using it
[07:11] <Kilos> oh my
[07:11] <magespawn> this does nestat -an | grep ":8080"
[07:12] <superfly> morning Kilos!
[07:12] <Kilos> tcp thats a direct thing like wget useshey
[07:13] <Kilos> do you have gwibber running
[07:13] <superfly> magespawn: it could be
[07:15] <magespawn> lsof -i:8080 does nothing but lsof does 
[07:16] <Kilos> what does it tell you
[07:16] <magespawn> hold
[07:18] <magespawn> http://slexy.org/view/s2O3r4zuzD
[07:18] <magespawn> but there is a lot of info
[07:18] <Kilos> there was also this to look at
[07:19] <Kilos> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ibid/+bug/602363
[07:19] <magespawn> had a look but do not see anything new therer
[07:20] <Kilos> did you try running it as root
[07:21] <magespawn> no
[07:21] <magespawn> brb
[07:21] <Kilos> lots of permission denied
[07:23] <magespawn> when i run lsof as root there is even more 
[07:23] <superfly> magespawn: netstat -ltnp
[07:24] <Kilos> i meant starting the bot from root
[07:24] <Kilos> im guessing now
[07:25] <Kilos> the fly will find the prob
[07:25] <magespawn> http://slexy.org/view/s2bA1QJv64
[07:26] <Kilos> something using tcp
[07:26] <magespawn> line 13
[07:26] <superfly> don't start ibid from root!!!
[07:26] <magespawn> no did not
[07:26] <superfly> I gotta go out - magespawn are you using anything other than IRC?
[07:27] <magespawn> i do have Apache installed
[07:27] <superfly> magespawn: no, I meant sources in Ibid
[07:28] <Kilos> one of these
[07:28] <magespawn> do not think so just used the package managed install instructuions from the site
[07:28] <Kilos> Ibid understands many protocols, including IRC, Jabber/XMPP/Google Talk,
[07:28] <magespawn> no just irc
[07:29] <Kilos> you dont use gwibber hey?
[07:29] <magespawn> no
[07:29] <Kilos> but its installed?
[07:29] <Kilos> mine used to eat data even if not open
[07:30] <magespawn> yup on the laptop
[07:30] <magespawn> but not as far as i know on the server unless it is default
[07:30] <Kilos> chesk if its installed on this pc
[07:30] <Kilos> remove it seeing as you dont use it
[07:31] <Kilos> yeah from lucid it was default i think
[07:33] <Kilos> if you look in synaptic and type in gwibber at the top it will show if installed
[07:34] <Kilos> i dunno the command to find whats installed
[07:34] <Kilos> read it just the other day but forgot already
[07:40] <Kilos> hi there nlsthzn 
[07:41] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[07:41]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[07:41] <nlsthzn> Hi uncle Kilos 
[07:45] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[07:45] <magespawn> hi nlsthzn
[07:46] <nlsthzn> good morning magespawn 
[07:47] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[07:47] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[07:47]  * Kilos is so happy with the bot being back
[07:52] <nlsthzn> :)
[08:38] <magespawn> okay then
[08:39] <Kilos> what did i miss
[08:40] <magespawn> not sure i just got discoonected it is the apache tomcat server i have running so going to modify the port it uses
[08:40] <Kilos> ah
[08:51] <magespawn> brb have to restart the server
[08:52] <Kilos> ok
[08:57] <Kilos> magespawn, wb
[09:01] <magespawn> Hi Kilos 
[09:02] <magespawn> the bot is here
[09:02] <Kilos> gc?
[09:02] <magespawn> yup
[09:02] <Kilos> yay
[09:02] <Kilos> gc hi
[09:02] <gc> evening
[09:02] <Kilos> lol
[09:03] <Kilos> drunk already
[09:03] <magespawn> had to change the default port for the apache tomcat to listen on
[09:03] <magespawn> web server
[09:03] <Kilos> you are clever now. do you wanna put it on ##kilos as well?
[09:04] <magespawn> brain is a bit fritzed
[09:04] <magespawn> just followed instructions really
[09:04] <Kilos> lol was a big job hey?
[09:04] <magespawn> steep learning curve
[09:04] <magespawn> lots of reading
[09:05] <Kilos> as long as you can remember what you learned its worth it
[09:05] <Kilos> gc coffee on
[09:05]  * gc washes some mugs
[09:05] <magespawn> thats the thing learnt how to use vi which was a big step, clipped all the pages and url to evernote
[09:05] <Kilos> hee hee
[09:06] <Kilos> i started learning vim but head jammed
[09:07] <Kilos> gc welcome to ubuntu-za
[09:07] <gc> Thank you so much Kilos
[09:08] <magespawn> now to set up the dyndns and prot forwarding so i can get to the server remotely
[09:08] <Kilos> whew
[09:08] <magespawn> takes a while to make the coffe to
[09:09] <Kilos> they take 4 or 5 mins
[09:09] <gc> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[09:09] <Kilos> gc thanks 
[09:09] <gc> no problem, Kilos
[09:13] <magespawn> gc google ibid
[09:13] <gc> magespawn: "Ibid. - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibid. :: "IBid" http://ibid.illinois.gov/ :: "ibid. - definition of ibid. by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and ..." http://www.thefreedictionary.com/ibid. :: "Could you shed some light on "Ibid" for me?" http://ask.yahoo.com/19991209.html :: "IBID PROJECTS Contemporary Art" http://ibidprojects.com/ :: "ibid records | here we are" http://ibidrecords.com/ :: …
[09:14] <magespawn> hah this was worth the effort
[09:15] <Kilos> google how to setup ibid on ubuntu
[09:15] <Kilos> grrr
[09:15] <Kilos> gc google how to setup ibid on ubuntu
[09:15] <gc> Kilos: "Ubuntu Manpage: ibid-setup - Create a basic configuration file and ..." http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/ibid-setup.1.html :: "Ubuntu Manpage: ibid.ini - Configuration file for Ibid" http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/natty/man5/ibid.ini.5.html :: "Ubuntu Manpage: ibid - Run an Ibid bot" http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/ibid.1.html :: "[ubuntu] Tips to install XMMS on Lucid - Page 4 - Ubuntu Forums" http://ubu…
[09:15] <Kilos> oh ya must have info in man as well
[09:16] <Kilos> when your towers are up the bot will help attrack customers and hopefully more ubuntu users
[09:26] <magespawn> thats always a good thing
[09:28] <Kilos> and i think you might be able to kinda advertise as well when they connect
[09:28] <magespawn> i think i might need to upgrade the server 
[09:28] <magespawn> old machine
[09:28] <Kilos> eish why?
[09:29] <Kilos> isnt the upgrade dicey?
[09:29] <magespawn> not sure what the requirments will be if lots of people are connected at the same time
[09:29] <magespawn> hardware only
[09:30] <Kilos> i remember someone saying dont upgrade. not sure what though
[09:30] <Kilos> oh i see
[09:30] <Kilos> how old is it
[09:30] <Kilos> superfly, uses a P2 for his server
[09:31] <magespawn> not actually sure was a donated tower
[09:31] <magespawn> hold will get specs now
[09:31] <Kilos> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[09:32] <magespawn> or sudo lshw
[09:35] <magespawn> http://slexy.org/view/s20J4pSV2N
[09:35] <magespawn> Celerin 2.6ghz
[09:35] <magespawn> Celeron
[09:35] <Kilos> thats fast for a server
[09:36] <Kilos> and 1g of ram that should be fine
[09:37] <Kilos> if it struggles with others using it as well add ram
[09:38] <Kilos> but should be fast enough, much faster than my clonker
[09:38] <magespawn> maybe set up a hluhluwe wug
[09:39] <Kilos> ya
[09:39] <Kilos> hluwug
[09:40] <magespawn> yup
[09:40] <Kilos> you could even get it to reach the game reserve. they can pay the tower costs
[09:41] <Kilos> thats how ptawug did it
[09:41] <Kilos> got each area to pay for their own relay towers
[09:48] <magespawn> they have a website up
[09:49] <magespawn> you on the wug
[09:49] <magespawn> ?
[09:49] <Kilos> who?
[09:49] <magespawn> you
[09:49] <Kilos> gc google ptawug
[09:49] <gc> Kilos: "PTAWUG - Pretoria Wireless User Group" http://www.ptawug.co.za/ :: "Getting Started - PTAWUG - Pretoria Wireless User Group" http://www.ptawug.co.za/content_list_11 :: "IRC - PTAWUG - Pretoria Wireless User Group" http://www.ptawug.co.za/content_list_3 :: "Ptawug | Facebook" http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ptawug/103968902973671 :: "www.wug.za.net :: Wireless User Groups South Africa" http://www.wug.za.net/ :: "ICASA gives PTAWUG high site …
[09:49] <Kilos> they are big
[10:00] <magespawn> are you part of it?
[10:00] <Kilos> no i havent got a wireless card
[10:00] <Kilos> interface
[10:00] <Kilos> that thing
[10:01] <Kilos> but i know they work right past me to brits. they got a tower on the mountain above hartebeestpoort dam
[10:04] <Kilos> hi psydroid 
[10:04] <Kilos> i thinkthats about 100 ks magespawn 
[10:05] <psydroid> hi Kilos
[10:05] <Kilos> you could even getmtubatuba that way
[10:05] <psydroid> hi magespawn
[10:05] <magespawn> hi psydroid
[10:05] <magespawn> yup need a nice high hill though
[10:06] <Kilos> there are somearound there
[10:06] <Kilos> the expense is the ting
[10:06] <magespawn> pretty flat here maybe up by pongola might need ICASA liscence
[10:06] <Kilos> expence
[10:07] <Kilos> start small and once others hear about it they could help with costs
[10:07] <magespawn> good idea
[10:07] <Kilos> we all had to learn to walk before we could run
[10:08] <Kilos> get the locals talking first
[10:09] <magespawn> "Sometimes you must run before you can walk." Tony Stark, Ironman.
[10:10] <Kilos> lol
[10:10] <Kilos> aks him if he ran before he walked as a baby
[10:10] <magespawn> Movie based on a DC comic
[10:10] <Kilos> now he walks when he is tired thats why he runs first
[10:12] <Kilos> i hate youtube everyone puts everything there
[10:26] <magespawn> got to go shopping then i am of home see you late Kilos
[10:27] <Kilos> go well magespawn 
[10:34] <Kilos> hi drussell can i worry you?
[12:27] <drussell> Kilos: sure
[12:29] <Kilos> im struugling to get debdelta working. when i do sudo apt-get debdelta-upgrade it tells me invalid operation
[12:29] <Kilos> struggling too
[12:29] <Kilos> i looked at the man pages, 4 of them but they too involved for me to understand
[12:30] <Kilos> and this link i dont understand drussell 
[12:30] <Kilos> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebdeltaAptIntegration
[12:31] <Kilos> something between my apt and debdelta is missing
[12:33] <Kilos> im spoilt by everything else configuring automatically
[12:34] <drussell> Kilos: yeah, debdelta isn't fully integrated yet, and currently no ETA for when it will be, if ever
[12:34] <Kilos> ah
[12:34] <Kilos> i need it for maverick. im gonna see how long i can go for
[12:35] <Kilos> debdelta has 4 man pages and each one makes my head throb worse
[12:36] <drussell> Kilos: you've only got 2 months of support left on maverick tho
[12:36] <drussell> Kilos: then no more updates, no fixes and no new software
[12:36] <Kilos> i dont have a choice drussell 
[12:37] <Kilos> then i will use aptoncd in case i need to reinstall
[12:37] <drussell> Kilos: :o(
[12:37] <Kilos> or even remastersys
[12:38] <Kilos> my pc cant handle unity and there is no cap to keep updating
[12:38] <Kilos> so i gonna stretch maverick
[12:45] <Kilos> i have the first man page at http://slexy.org/view/s2x4wmGMSp
[12:46] <Kilos> was trying to save someone having to install debdelta first
[15:01] <magespawn> Howdy all
[15:02] <Kilos> hiya magespawn you on the fone now?
[15:02] <magespawn> Yup
[15:03] <magespawn> I see the gc has gone
[15:03] <Kilos> yahe left just after you
[15:03] <Kilos> coupla secs later
[15:04] <magespawn>  Maybe when I logged it it logged out too so I should stay logged in
[15:05] <Kilos> ?
[15:05] <magespawn> Also possible that the pc lost its electricity 
[15:06] <Kilos> hehe
[15:06] <magespawn> Maybe when I logged out it logged out too
[15:12] <magespawn> Any who, at least it was working, I must about setting up automatic logging.
[15:12] <Kilos> yeah it works kiff
[15:12] <Kilos> makes nice coffee too
[15:21] <magespawn> I'll be back later just going to "family time."
[15:21] <Kilos> cool
[16:00] <superfly> Maaz: tell magespawn "nohup <command> &"
[16:00] <Maaz> superfly: Okay, I'll tell magespawn on freenode
[16:01] <Kilos> he has done well hey superfly ?
[17:57] <Kilos> evening all
[18:02] <not_found> Hi uncle Kilos 
[18:02] <not_found> ;)
[18:03] <Kilos> lol
[18:03] <Kilos> that you nel?
[18:03] <Kilos> neil
[18:03] <not_found> yup it is I :)
[18:04] <Kilos> where you come on the funny nick not_found 
[18:04] <Kilos> Maaz, where is not_found 
[18:04] <Maaz> Kilos: Erk, dunno
[18:04] <Kilos> hmmm
[18:04] <Kilos> Maaz, last seen not_found 
[18:04] <Maaz> Kilos: Excuse me?
[18:06] <not_found> Kilos: it is my nick on the forum... we are pushing to get our channel #ubuntuforums a bit more active, build some cimmunity :)
[18:06] <not_found> *community
[18:06] <Kilos> ah
[18:06] <Kilos> not some unity
[18:07] <not_found> we have enough unity already :)
[18:07] <Kilos> lol
[18:09] <Kilos> i wish peeps at launchpad will accept that im gonna keep maverick as long as i can. I ask for help to integrate debdelta and one keeps on advising me to go with later distros
[18:11] <Kilos> and if i can rum unity then go kubuntu or xubuntu
[18:11] <Kilos> grrr
[18:11] <Kilos> even after i say I dont have data to do the upgrades
[18:12] <not_found> The rest of the world don't understand uncle Kilos 
[18:12] <Kilos> apart from that i love maverick
[18:13] <not_found> the meerkat was / is good
[18:14] <Kilos> yeah and still 50 days support so why try change me
[18:14] <not_found> :) .. TBH I almost want to suggest you go for Debian.
[18:14] <Kerbero> yeah
[18:14] <Kilos> lol
[18:14] <Kerbero> i agree
[18:14] <not_found> You know enough to get it workign like you want... if someone gets you all the DVD's you would be good to go
[18:15] <Kilos> does debian look like maverick?
[18:16] <not_found> it is Gnome 2
[18:16] <not_found> and debian is supported for ages...
[18:16] <Kilos> so will look just like maverick?
[18:16] <not_found> they only bring our a new version maybe every two years...
[18:16] <not_found> just about like maverik
[18:16] <not_found> not the same theme
[18:16] <not_found> open and close etc. on the right
[18:17] <not_found> nothing that can't be changed by those that like to change things 
[18:20] <Kilos> what gets changed when ubuntu uses bebian packages
[18:20] <Kilos> debian
[18:21] <not_found> little tweaks to make the defaults more friendly... and branding I suspect... not an expert
[18:22] <Kilos> ah
[18:30] <Kilos> partial upgrades are dangerous hey? my update manager wants to do a partial
[18:30] <not_found> it has been known to be detremental
[18:31] <Kilos> in update manager i can stop firefox and some others to cut data. never use ff anyway
[18:32] <not_found> if you remove it then it will never ask to update it...
[18:32] <Kilos> good idea
[18:32] <Kilos> ty
[18:34] <not_found> lol
[18:34] <Kilos> iwonder should i purge it
[18:34] <not_found> with the new aggresive updating that FF does there is  new version it seems twice a month
[18:34] <Kilos> doesnt anything else use parts of its links
[18:35] <Kilos> yeah ff is a pain
[18:35] <not_found> this is the way of the internet now it seems... browser wars and all
[18:35] <not_found> I am not sure what would be the best way of doing it...
[18:35] <Kilos> lol i get bang
[18:36] <Kilos> age old saying leave well enough alone
[18:36] <not_found> true
[18:37] <not_found> that was what I was also feeling... I don't mind killing my own installs but would feel terrible if someone elses gets nuked because of me
[18:37] <Kilos> ha ha ha
[18:39] <not_found> and at the moment my Ubuntu install is dead at home... did the update on Precise today and now it hangs and I have to hard boot everytime :'(
[18:40] <Kilos> eish 
[18:40] <not_found> it happens I guess
[18:45] <inetpro> good evening
[18:45] <Kilos> lo inetpro 
[18:45] <inetpro> Kilos: I see not_found is lost?
[18:45] <Kilos> lol
[18:45] <Kilos> yeah
[18:45] <not_found> lol
[18:45] <Kilos> inetpro, i need you when you have time to spend
[18:46] <inetpro> eish...
[18:46]  * inetpro is very tired
[18:46] <Kilos> ja eish
[18:46] <inetpro> what's up doc?
[18:46] <Kilos> that debdelta isnt integrated into ubuntu
[18:46] <Kilos> i been all over
[18:47] <Kilos> found some links but dont understand what they say must be done
[18:47] <inetpro> hmm... 
[18:48]  * inetpro won't go the tonight
[18:48] <inetpro> there*
[18:48] <Kilos> someone gave me airtime last night but dont wanna waste it if possible
[18:48] <Kilos> not a prob
[18:48] <Kilos> i can wait. i know you are busy
[18:49] <Kilos> it has 4 man pages
[18:49] <Kilos> all greek
[18:49] <nlsthzn> night all
[18:49] <Kilos> night nlsthzn 
[18:49] <inetpro> good night nlsthzn
[18:49] <Kilos> sleep tight
[18:50] <Kilos> eish so quick
[18:50] <inetpro> at least he found his self again
[18:50] <Kilos> lol
[18:50] <Kilos> he says that his forum nick
[18:51] <Kilos> inetpro, do you know debian
[18:51] <Kilos> i been advised to use that
[18:51] <Kilos> but feel like a traitor
[18:52] <Kilos> and also its 2g of maverick archives wasted
[18:54] <Kilos> will use too much data to get debian working like this
[18:56] <Kilos> kbmonkey got his bot working here
[18:56] <Kilos> was that apache server goodie using port 8080
[18:56] <Kilos> hi sakhi 
[19:17] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight