[06:09] good morning all [06:23] http://slexy.org/view/s2eFgXZOFR [06:26] Miight be the Apache I have installed. [07:08] morning superfly and others [07:09] morning Kilos [07:09] hey magespawn , you early hey [07:09] you got that command [07:09] I think it may the apache server I have installed [07:09] been here awhile too [07:10] http://slexy.org/view/s2eFgXZOFR [07:10] lsof -i:8080 [07:10] did you run that [07:10] no that returns nothing [07:10] should tell you what is using it [07:11] oh my [07:11] this does nestat -an | grep ":8080" [07:12] morning Kilos! [07:12] tcp thats a direct thing like wget useshey [07:13] do you have gwibber running [07:13] magespawn: it could be [07:15] lsof -i:8080 does nothing but lsof does [07:16] what does it tell you [07:16] hold [07:18] http://slexy.org/view/s2O3r4zuzD [07:18] but there is a lot of info [07:18] there was also this to look at [07:19] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ibid/+bug/602363 [07:19] had a look but do not see anything new therer [07:20] did you try running it as root [07:21] no [07:21] brb [07:21] lots of permission denied [07:23] when i run lsof as root there is even more [07:23] magespawn: netstat -ltnp [07:24] i meant starting the bot from root [07:24] im guessing now [07:25] the fly will find the prob [07:25] http://slexy.org/view/s2bA1QJv64 [07:26] something using tcp [07:26] line 13 [07:26] don't start ibid from root!!! [07:26] no did not [07:26] I gotta go out - magespawn are you using anything other than IRC? [07:27] i do have Apache installed [07:27] magespawn: no, I meant sources in Ibid [07:28] one of these [07:28] do not think so just used the package managed install instructuions from the site [07:28] Ibid understands many protocols, including IRC, Jabber/XMPP/Google Talk, [07:28] no just irc [07:29] you dont use gwibber hey? [07:29] no [07:29] but its installed? [07:29] mine used to eat data even if not open [07:30] yup on the laptop [07:30] but not as far as i know on the server unless it is default [07:30] chesk if its installed on this pc [07:30] remove it seeing as you dont use it [07:31] yeah from lucid it was default i think [07:33] if you look in synaptic and type in gwibber at the top it will show if installed [07:34] i dunno the command to find whats installed [07:34] read it just the other day but forgot already [07:40] hi there nlsthzn [07:41] Maaz, coffee on [07:41] * Maaz washes some mugs [07:41] Hi uncle Kilos [07:45] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [07:45] hi nlsthzn [07:46] good morning magespawn [07:47] Maaz, ty [07:47] You are welcome Kilos [07:47] * Kilos is so happy with the bot being back [07:52] :) [08:38] okay then [08:39] what did i miss [08:40] not sure i just got discoonected it is the apache tomcat server i have running so going to modify the port it uses [08:40] ah [08:51] brb have to restart the server [08:52] ok [08:57] magespawn, wb [09:01] Hi Kilos [09:02] the bot is here [09:02] gc? [09:02] yup [09:02] yay [09:02] gc hi [09:02] evening [09:02] lol [09:03] drunk already [09:03] had to change the default port for the apache tomcat to listen on [09:03] web server [09:03] you are clever now. do you wanna put it on ##kilos as well? [09:04] brain is a bit fritzed [09:04] just followed instructions really [09:04] lol was a big job hey? [09:04] steep learning curve [09:04] lots of reading [09:05] as long as you can remember what you learned its worth it [09:05] gc coffee on [09:05] * gc washes some mugs [09:05] thats the thing learnt how to use vi which was a big step, clipped all the pages and url to evernote [09:05] hee hee [09:06] i started learning vim but head jammed [09:07] gc welcome to ubuntu-za [09:07] Thank you so much Kilos [09:08] now to set up the dyndns and prot forwarding so i can get to the server remotely [09:08] whew [09:08] takes a while to make the coffe to [09:09] they take 4 or 5 mins [09:09] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [09:09] gc thanks [09:09] no problem, Kilos [09:13] gc google ibid [09:13] magespawn: "Ibid. - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibid. :: "IBid" http://ibid.illinois.gov/ :: "ibid. - definition of ibid. by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and ..." http://www.thefreedictionary.com/ibid. :: "Could you shed some light on "Ibid" for me?" http://ask.yahoo.com/19991209.html :: "IBID PROJECTS Contemporary Art" http://ibidprojects.com/ :: "ibid records | here we are" http://ibidrecords.com/ :: … [09:14] hah this was worth the effort [09:15] google how to setup ibid on ubuntu [09:15] grrr [09:15] gc google how to setup ibid on ubuntu [09:15] Kilos: "Ubuntu Manpage: ibid-setup - Create a basic configuration file and ..." http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/ibid-setup.1.html :: "Ubuntu Manpage: ibid.ini - Configuration file for Ibid" http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/natty/man5/ibid.ini.5.html :: "Ubuntu Manpage: ibid - Run an Ibid bot" http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/ibid.1.html :: "[ubuntu] Tips to install XMMS on Lucid - Page 4 - Ubuntu Forums" http://ubu… [09:15] oh ya must have info in man as well [09:16] when your towers are up the bot will help attrack customers and hopefully more ubuntu users [09:26] thats always a good thing [09:28] and i think you might be able to kinda advertise as well when they connect [09:28] i think i might need to upgrade the server [09:28] old machine [09:28] eish why? [09:29] isnt the upgrade dicey? [09:29] not sure what the requirments will be if lots of people are connected at the same time [09:29] hardware only [09:30] i remember someone saying dont upgrade. not sure what though [09:30] oh i see [09:30] how old is it [09:30] superfly, uses a P2 for his server [09:31] not actually sure was a donated tower [09:31] hold will get specs now [09:31] cat /proc/cpuinfo [09:32] or sudo lshw [09:35] http://slexy.org/view/s20J4pSV2N [09:35] Celerin 2.6ghz [09:35] Celeron [09:35] thats fast for a server [09:36] and 1g of ram that should be fine [09:37] if it struggles with others using it as well add ram [09:38] but should be fast enough, much faster than my clonker [09:38] maybe set up a hluhluwe wug [09:39] ya [09:39] hluwug [09:40] yup [09:40] you could even get it to reach the game reserve. they can pay the tower costs [09:41] thats how ptawug did it [09:41] got each area to pay for their own relay towers [09:48] they have a website up [09:49] you on the wug [09:49] ? [09:49] who? [09:49] you [09:49] gc google ptawug [09:49] Kilos: "PTAWUG - Pretoria Wireless User Group" http://www.ptawug.co.za/ :: "Getting Started - PTAWUG - Pretoria Wireless User Group" http://www.ptawug.co.za/content_list_11 :: "IRC - PTAWUG - Pretoria Wireless User Group" http://www.ptawug.co.za/content_list_3 :: "Ptawug | Facebook" http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ptawug/103968902973671 :: "www.wug.za.net :: Wireless User Groups South Africa" http://www.wug.za.net/ :: "ICASA gives PTAWUG high site … [09:49] they are big [10:00] are you part of it? [10:00] no i havent got a wireless card [10:00] interface [10:00] that thing [10:01] but i know they work right past me to brits. they got a tower on the mountain above hartebeestpoort dam [10:04] hi psydroid [10:04] i thinkthats about 100 ks magespawn [10:05] hi Kilos [10:05] you could even getmtubatuba that way [10:05] hi magespawn [10:05] hi psydroid [10:05] yup need a nice high hill though [10:06] there are somearound there [10:06] the expense is the ting [10:06] pretty flat here maybe up by pongola might need ICASA liscence [10:06] expence [10:07] start small and once others hear about it they could help with costs [10:07] good idea [10:07] we all had to learn to walk before we could run [10:08] get the locals talking first [10:09] "Sometimes you must run before you can walk." Tony Stark, Ironman. [10:10] lol [10:10] aks him if he ran before he walked as a baby [10:10] Movie based on a DC comic [10:10] now he walks when he is tired thats why he runs first [10:12] i hate youtube everyone puts everything there [10:26] got to go shopping then i am of home see you late Kilos [10:27] go well magespawn [10:34] hi drussell can i worry you? [12:27] Kilos: sure [12:29] im struugling to get debdelta working. when i do sudo apt-get debdelta-upgrade it tells me invalid operation [12:29] struggling too [12:29] i looked at the man pages, 4 of them but they too involved for me to understand [12:30] and this link i dont understand drussell [12:30] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebdeltaAptIntegration [12:31] something between my apt and debdelta is missing [12:33] im spoilt by everything else configuring automatically [12:34] Kilos: yeah, debdelta isn't fully integrated yet, and currently no ETA for when it will be, if ever [12:34] ah [12:34] i need it for maverick. im gonna see how long i can go for [12:35] debdelta has 4 man pages and each one makes my head throb worse [12:36] Kilos: you've only got 2 months of support left on maverick tho [12:36] Kilos: then no more updates, no fixes and no new software [12:36] i dont have a choice drussell [12:37] then i will use aptoncd in case i need to reinstall [12:37] Kilos: :o( [12:37] or even remastersys [12:38] my pc cant handle unity and there is no cap to keep updating [12:38] so i gonna stretch maverick [12:45] i have the first man page at http://slexy.org/view/s2x4wmGMSp [12:46] was trying to save someone having to install debdelta first [15:01] Howdy all [15:02] hiya magespawn you on the fone now? [15:02] Yup [15:03] I see the gc has gone [15:03] yahe left just after you [15:03] coupla secs later [15:04] Maybe when I logged it it logged out too so I should stay logged in [15:05] ? [15:05] Also possible that the pc lost its electricity [15:06] hehe [15:06] Maybe when I logged out it logged out too [15:12] Any who, at least it was working, I must about setting up automatic logging. [15:12] yeah it works kiff [15:12] makes nice coffee too [15:21] I'll be back later just going to "family time." [15:21] cool [16:00] Maaz: tell magespawn "nohup &" [16:00] superfly: Okay, I'll tell magespawn on freenode [16:01] he has done well hey superfly ? === nlsthzn is now known as not_found [17:57] evening all [18:02] Hi uncle Kilos [18:02] ;) [18:03] lol [18:03] that you nel? [18:03] neil [18:03] yup it is I :) [18:04] where you come on the funny nick not_found [18:04] Maaz, where is not_found [18:04] Kilos: Erk, dunno [18:04] hmmm [18:04] Maaz, last seen not_found [18:04] Kilos: Excuse me? [18:06] Kilos: it is my nick on the forum... we are pushing to get our channel #ubuntuforums a bit more active, build some cimmunity :) [18:06] *community [18:06] ah [18:06] not some unity [18:07] we have enough unity already :) [18:07] lol [18:09] i wish peeps at launchpad will accept that im gonna keep maverick as long as i can. I ask for help to integrate debdelta and one keeps on advising me to go with later distros [18:11] and if i can rum unity then go kubuntu or xubuntu [18:11] grrr [18:11] even after i say I dont have data to do the upgrades [18:12] The rest of the world don't understand uncle Kilos [18:12] apart from that i love maverick [18:13] the meerkat was / is good [18:14] yeah and still 50 days support so why try change me [18:14] :) .. TBH I almost want to suggest you go for Debian. [18:14] yeah [18:14] lol [18:14] i agree [18:14] You know enough to get it workign like you want... if someone gets you all the DVD's you would be good to go [18:15] does debian look like maverick? [18:16] it is Gnome 2 [18:16] and debian is supported for ages... [18:16] so will look just like maverick? [18:16] they only bring our a new version maybe every two years... [18:16] just about like maverik [18:16] not the same theme [18:16] open and close etc. on the right [18:17] nothing that can't be changed by those that like to change things [18:20] what gets changed when ubuntu uses bebian packages [18:20] debian [18:21] little tweaks to make the defaults more friendly... and branding I suspect... not an expert [18:22] ah [18:30] partial upgrades are dangerous hey? my update manager wants to do a partial [18:30] it has been known to be detremental [18:31] in update manager i can stop firefox and some others to cut data. never use ff anyway [18:32] if you remove it then it will never ask to update it... [18:32] good idea [18:32] ty [18:34] lol [18:34] iwonder should i purge it [18:34] with the new aggresive updating that FF does there is new version it seems twice a month [18:34] doesnt anything else use parts of its links [18:35] yeah ff is a pain [18:35] this is the way of the internet now it seems... browser wars and all [18:35] I am not sure what would be the best way of doing it... [18:35] lol i get bang [18:36] age old saying leave well enough alone [18:36] true [18:37] that was what I was also feeling... I don't mind killing my own installs but would feel terrible if someone elses gets nuked because of me [18:37] ha ha ha [18:39] and at the moment my Ubuntu install is dead at home... did the update on Precise today and now it hangs and I have to hard boot everytime :'( [18:40] eish [18:40] it happens I guess [18:45] good evening [18:45] lo inetpro [18:45] Kilos: I see not_found is lost? [18:45] lol [18:45] yeah [18:45] lol === not_found is now known as nlsthzn [18:45] inetpro, i need you when you have time to spend [18:46] eish... [18:46] * inetpro is very tired [18:46] ja eish [18:46] what's up doc? [18:46] that debdelta isnt integrated into ubuntu [18:46] i been all over [18:47] found some links but dont understand what they say must be done [18:47] hmm... [18:48] * inetpro won't go the tonight [18:48] there* [18:48] someone gave me airtime last night but dont wanna waste it if possible [18:48] not a prob [18:48] i can wait. i know you are busy [18:49] it has 4 man pages [18:49] all greek [18:49] night all [18:49] night nlsthzn [18:49] good night nlsthzn [18:49] sleep tight [18:50] eish so quick [18:50] at least he found his self again [18:50] lol [18:50] he says that his forum nick [18:51] inetpro, do you know debian [18:51] i been advised to use that [18:51] but feel like a traitor [18:52] and also its 2g of maverick archives wasted [18:54] will use too much data to get debian working like this [18:56] kbmonkey got his bot working here [18:56] was that apache server goodie using port 8080 [18:56] hi sakhi [19:17] night all. sleep tight === nlsthzn is now known as not_found === not_found is now known as nlsthzn