[03:10] <al4nc4ds> very nice studio 12.04
[03:10] <al4nc4ds> thanks for all!
[06:16] <Halexander9000> Greetings from Eastern Europe, gentlehumans! I have 495 png files. I use this command to combine them into a video file at 16 frames per second: "ffmpeg -i 'frame%d.png' -r 16 out.mkv". But instead of getting a video file 495:16=30.9375 seconds in length, I somehow end up with a 19 second one. Could someone please tell me what seems to be the problem?
[06:16] <holstein> mabye your code
[06:17] <holstein> i would try it again, and then maybe try a few different output file types
[06:17] <holstein> mabye try a different settings or 2
[06:25] <Halexander9000> Thank you for your concern, but I realize that I mixed up some commands.
[06:25] <holstein> Halexander9000: cool :)
[06:25] <Halexander9000> Apparently Coca-Cola is not a good coffee substitute at 8:25 am.
[06:26] <holstein> nah... you need the goods!
[06:26] <Halexander9000> The goods?
[06:26] <CFHowlett> *jolt cola!*
[06:26] <Halexander9000> Oh, hey you.
[06:27] <CFHowlett> Halexander9000   glad you know where the REAL ubuntu action is!
[06:27] <Halexander9000> CFHowlett: Tried the ffmpeg room too. Seems to be dead so far.
[06:28] <CFHowlett> Halexander9000   yeah, I've noticed that.  So, you're making a gif or a video?  Do we get to see this creation?
[06:30] <Halexander9000> CFHowlett: I'm messing around with a random desktop recording of me playing a youtube file of a clip from Courage the Cowardly dog with that creepy wiggly armed blue guy with his hand stuck to his head telling Courage that he's not perfect in his dream/nightmare.
[06:30] <Halexander9000> I think if was extracted from the last episode of the show.
[06:30] <Halexander9000> I'm just doing this to get accustomed with the software.
[06:31] <CFHowlett> sounds like fun.  You have openshot too?
[06:31] <Halexander9000> CFHowlett: If I do make something worth your time, I'll let you know.
[06:31] <Halexander9000> I need Youtube viewers anyhow :D
[06:31] <CFHowlett> fair enough.  here's my latest still to video conversion  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ua_vTyR9jEs&list=PLCD6C3483E4436CD3&index=1&feature=plcp
[06:31] <Halexander9000> Openshot is kind of glitchy with .ogv files.
[06:32] <Halexander9000> CFHowlett: What does CFHowlett stand for?
[06:32] <CFHowlett> Halexander9000   I haven't done .ogv yet.  I found openshot much easier that cinelerra
[06:36] <Halexander9000> CFHowlett: I'm afraid of video editors now since I have a 2008 netbook as my main and only machine. A unmodified factory ASUS EEE PC 904HD.
[06:36] <CFHowlett> Halexander9000   well you should be quite happy to run ubuntustudio as it's now based on xfce - lighter load and all that
[06:37] <Halexander9000> CFHowlett: So, did you got hired?
[06:39] <CFHowlett> Halexander9000   Travel authorization documents have just entered american airspace and I expect to be in China by end of month.
[06:40] <Halexander9000> CFHowlett: Erm... do you intend to become a Chinese citizen?
[06:40] <CFHowlett> Don't intend to ... not that they'd make it easy.  I plan to see as many countries as I can.  Just going there to work is all.
[06:41] <Halexander9000> CFHowlett: I have this weird feeling that China is going to declare war all of Earth's nations and especially America. Don't ask why. Emotions are supposed to be illogical.
[06:42] <CFHowlett> Halexander9000   Personally, I'm more scared of North Korea ...
[06:42] <Halexander9000> Psh... North Korea has nothing on China.
[06:43] <CFHowlett> Halexander9000   I kind of trust china to act with SOME kind of sense.  NK, not so much ...
[06:45] <Halexander9000> CFHowlett: China has tech to knockdown all satellites from the sky, bringing down world wide communications and has it's own independent network of satellites for global positioning.
[06:45] <CFHowlett> Halexander9000   could be.  but enough ruminating ... there's buntu's to play with!
[06:46] <Halexander9000> True, true. And I still have half a two litter of Cola to consume XD
[06:46] <CFHowlett> more caffeine in mountain dew ...
[06:48] <Halexander9000> CFHowlett: I too want to visit Japan one day... and learn Japanese. I never ever traveled over my own country's border.
[06:48] <CFHowlett> Halexander9000   I'm an old fart and I waited TOO long to do so.  Get passport, get tickets and get out of town, young man!
[06:50] <Halexander9000> CFHowlett: My birthday is only composed of 1 and 9 digits only. Guess my birthdate, and you'll know just how young I am. Hint: Month is a double digit.
[06:51] <Halexander9000> Congrats for your being a father!
[06:52] <Halexander9000> I was about to say "your son" but I don't know enough. So I have to correct that: "you being a father*"
[06:54] <CFHowlett> :)
[06:55] <Halexander9000> CFHowlett: This is strange... "ffmpeg -f image2 -i frame%d.png -r 16 out.mkv" does that same weird behavior.
[06:55] <CFHowlett> Halexander9000   try a different container - mpeg or mp4
[06:56] <Halexander9000> CFHowlett: I'll see if I can...
[07:01] <Halexander9000> CFHowlett: Nope, same darn thing. "ffmpeg -f image2 -i frame%d.png -r 16 out.mp4" still outputs 19 seconds.
[07:03] <CFHowlett> Halexander9000   play with the settings - 24 for example.
[07:04] <Halexander9000> CFHowlett: But... I recorded the thing at 16 fps... that will shorten the video to... um... 19 seconds... Wait a minute...
[07:04] <Halexander9000> Are you saying that ffmpeg forces the video to have at least 24 fps even though I tell it not to?
[07:05] <CFHowlett> 16 fps is an odd settings - most videos default to 24
[07:05] <Halexander9000> Well, I am an odd person with an odd computer.
[07:05] <CFHowlett> oooooookay
[07:05] <Halexander9000> CFHowlett: So I can't force it to 16 fps?
[07:06] <CFHowlett> you did the right command to force sfaik but research how to force it.  I suspect the answer is simple but conveniently obscure ...
[07:07] <Halexander9000> If it's obscure, I'm sure the word convenient is not the one you're looking for.
[07:07] <CFHowlett> *simple* but obscure
[07:11] <Halexander9000> CFHowlett: North Korea. Racist nation?
[07:12] <CFHowlett> Halexander9000   never been ... can't say from experience.
[07:13] <Halexander9000> Got past the first episode of your podcast.
[07:14] <CFHowlett> ah!  thank you for listening!
[07:20] <Halexander9000> CFHowlett: Now I have to relisten and search for the content you referenced so I can download and read.
[07:20] <Halexander9000> I'll subscribe instead. I'm trying to solve my problem right now.
[07:20] <CFHowlett> fair enough.  fyi, links are on the blog ...
[07:23] <Halexander9000> CFHowlett: I'll make sure to check that later. In the mean time some guy suggested I should check this out "did you telling ffmpeg what the framerate of the input was ?""ie. put the -r 16 before the -i FILE""then try what I suggested"
[07:24] <Halexander9000> Neither this "ffmpeg -f image2 -i -r 16 frame%d.png -r 24 out.mp4" or this ""ffmpeg -f image2 -r 16 -i frame%d.png -r 24 out.mp4" is a working command. I always get a "command not found".
[07:24] <CFHowlett> try it!
[07:24] <Halexander9000> I already did. I don't complain about thing I didn't try.
[07:25] <CFHowlett> I'm afraid you've got a spot of research ahead ... http://ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg.html
[07:25] <CFHowlett> wait 1 ....
[07:27] <CFHowlett> bit rate/frame rate/ all kinds of rates.  I don't pretend to understand it all...but see this.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/877141/
[07:27] <Halexander9000> Well... except for drugging. I was forced to try a puff of cigar as a dare at my 18th birthday party with my parents. And I have tried drinking occasionally, but I always end up drunk after two or three cups of the thing. So I can complain about those two. I don't intend to try drugs anytime. If ever.
[07:29] <CFHowlett> ok.  Hey, starbucks is about to kick me off their couch and out of their house.  Don't forget to see the forums: ubuntu studio, ubuntu multimedia.  Gotta catch up with you another time ....
[07:30] <Halexander9000> CFHowlett: I'm a dumbass. I typed the commands with quotes...
[07:30]  * Halexander9000 face-palms himself.
[07:30] <Halexander9000> CFHowlett: See ya. Take care.
[09:18] <Halexander9000> ?
[17:11] <superdave321> I "upgraded" to ubuntu studio from vanilla using this article: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu%20Studio%20Upgrade%20from%20Ubuntu How can I get the UI back while keeping the apps and plugins?
[17:13] <holstein> superdave321: gnome2 is gone
[17:13] <holstein> XFCE is what we went to because its arguably the most gnome2 like
[17:14] <superdave321> ok, so how do I get it back? or can I even get it back?
[17:14] <holstein> superdave321: gnome2 is gone
[17:14] <holstein> ubuntu/cononnical is doing what it always did
[17:15] <holstein> provide you/us with the latest version of gnome
[17:15] <holstein> which is *not* gnome2
[17:15] <holstein> if you want gnome2, you can run an earlier version of ubuntu
[17:15] <Sysi> one doesn't bring things back from dead
[17:15] <holstein> you can look into the cinamon, or mate projects
[17:15] <holstein> you can build your own version with gnome2
[17:16] <holstein> you can try XFCE, we didnt just throw a dart at a dart board or filp a coin
[17:16] <holstein> you can use *any* of the DE's with the ubuntustudio specific pacakges, inculding KDE
[17:16] <holstein> i suggest, trying to take some time to explore them live, and see what you like
[17:17] <holstein> gnome2 is just going to get further and further obsolete as it gets closer to EOL
[17:17] <holstein> personally, im running 10.04, and have been, and i dont plan on moving on til 12.04, where i will use XFCE
[17:18] <holstein> gotta run... good luck superdave321 :)
[17:19] <tehowe> Cinnamon is pretty good actually, I thought for a while I'd have a hard time deciding twixt it and Unity... but why? I can use either whenever I feel like it just by logging out & back in :) Choice!
[17:19] <Sysi> gnome-shell could be my favourite, if it wasn't dependant about pulseaudio
[17:20] <Sysi> well, not completely dependant, I could still try
[17:20] <tehowe> Which makes me wonder if I can use Cinnamon with Ubustudio 12.04 the same way.. never tried Lubuntu or whatever we're moving to