ashams | thelinuxer, have a sec? | 13:26 |
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ashams | you'll log out :) | 13:26 |
ashams | :P | 13:26 |
thelinuxer | ashams: i am thinking about logging out ... | 13:26 |
ashams | thelinuxer, hehe | 13:27 |
ashams | 2afashtak :P | 13:27 |
ashams | bos ba2a, how can council monitor FGs activity? | 13:27 |
ashams | it can not subscribe to their MLs | 13:27 |
thelinuxer | ashams: ur going to tell me ? wala this is an actual question ? | 13:27 |
ashams | right? | 13:27 |
ashams | hehe :) | 13:28 |
ashams | thelinuxer, take it easy, I won't bite | 13:28 |
ashams | council members can not monitor FGs' activity through subscribing to MLs | 13:28 |
ashams | ok? | 13:28 |
thelinuxer | la2 i am asking begad ... ur building up 3ashan tewsal le argument wala betes2alny .. | 13:29 |
ashams | 3ashan awsal le argument tab3an | 13:29 |
ashams | but it can be a real question | 13:29 |
ashams | thelinuxer, really, do you have anything in mind to solve this? | 13:30 |
thelinuxer | well there are multiple answers to ur question | 13:30 |
ashams | plz, it's not an ambush :-) | 13:30 |
thelinuxer | 1. Join their mailing list | 13:30 |
ashams | 2? | 13:30 |
thelinuxer | 2. Follow tasks on launchpad (or something like it) | 13:30 |
ashams | that's it :) | 13:30 |
thelinuxer | 3. Make one council member monitor one FG | 13:31 |
ashams | again, won't work | 13:31 |
ashams | let me answer ba2a | 13:31 |
ashams | 1st and 3rd, why should a council member join an FG if s/he is not interested | 13:32 |
ashams | just being there to monitor them | 13:32 |
ashams | this would be sucks | 13:32 |
ashams | right? | 13:32 |
thelinuxer | mesh lazem bas if there is another efficient way lets do it | 13:33 |
ashams | yep, regestir a project on lp, and when someone/fg requests a task from another fg, it just opens a task | 13:33 |
ashams | this way anyone can follow bugs/questions on that project | 13:33 |
ashams | and everything is visible even to aliens :) | 13:34 |
ashams | do you object? | 13:34 |
thelinuxer | akeed la2 | 13:34 |
ashams | cool | 13:34 |
ashams | one sec I'll bring you a link | 13:34 |
ashams | :-) | 13:34 |
ashams | man, I need your name it | 13:34 |
ashams | it's you whose name should be recorded on it | 13:35 |
ashams | thelinuxer, https://launchpad.net/projects/+new | 13:35 |
ashams | are you ok with this? | 13:35 |
thelinuxer | i am not sure ok with what ? | 13:35 |
thelinuxer | what's with the name thing ? | 13:36 |
ashams | with creating it, i mean | 13:36 |
ashams | you were objecting before | 13:36 |
ashams | but now, thanks god :) | 13:36 |
ashams | 2nd point; plz, and for last time, I swear to God, why should we late some FG like Event Organizers? | 13:37 |
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thelinuxer | ashams: i never objected to creating a project! | 13:38 |
thelinuxer | i was asking u what do u want me to do | 13:38 |
ashams | Oh God, I'm stupid | 13:38 |
thelinuxer | no ur not | 13:39 |
thelinuxer | el mohem ur 2nd point | 13:39 |
ashams | shoot :) | 13:39 |
thelinuxer | elaborate more plz | 13:39 |
ashams | ok | 13:39 |
thelinuxer | brb | 13:39 |
ashams | thelinuxer, you said: "That way we will be able more FGs on need basis at least." about postponing creating some FGs, how can't be a need for "Operators" and event "Organizers" ? | 13:41 |
ashams | Wazery, Hi buddy | 13:41 |
Wazery | hi ashams | 13:42 |
ashams | Wazery, how are you doing? | 13:42 |
ashams | do you have a sec? | 13:42 |
Wazery | fine | 13:42 |
Wazery | sure :) | 13:42 |
ashams | el7 | 13:43 |
Wazery | I will continue editing the approval application now | 13:43 |
ashams | do you object to create event "Organizers" and "Operators" ? | 13:43 |
ashams | Wazery, Ok, dude, I appreciate what you do :D | 13:43 |
Wazery | I cant understand this, please elaborate | 13:45 |
ashams | ok | 13:45 |
ashams | I mean that there's a need to create 2 FGs, "event Organizers" and "channels moderators" ? | 13:46 |
ashams | do you see a need, as I do? | 13:46 |
thelinuxer | back | 13:46 |
ashams | wb | 13:46 |
thelinuxer | ashams: please lets not that this one-on-one conversations .. | 13:46 |
Wazery | ashams, maybe | 13:46 |
thelinuxer | if we need an FG we will create | 13:47 |
thelinuxer | just provide a proposal | 13:47 |
ashams | ok i propose to create 2 FGs, Organizers and Operators? | 13:47 |
ashams | organizers to help with doing everything with organizing an event | 13:48 |
thelinuxer | lol | 13:48 |
thelinuxer | this is called lobbying :D | 13:49 |
ashams | yeah, I tried and it worked :P | 13:49 |
thelinuxer | bos the 5 council members should be present when u discuss ur idea | 13:49 |
ashams | ok, I'm not asking you to action it | 13:49 |
ashams | just you guys agree? | 13:50 |
ashams | thelinuxer, Wazery ^^ | 13:50 |
thelinuxer | i am approving of the method itself | 13:50 |
ashams | what you mean? | 13:50 |
thelinuxer | is this collecting our votes in private ? | 13:50 |
thelinuxer | walla estefsar keda law el fekra 7elwa walla la2 ? | 13:51 |
ashams | noooooo, I just want to know | 13:51 |
ashams | I'm curios ya akhi | 13:51 |
thelinuxer | enta 3arefny ba2eet saye2 el neya belnesbalak :D | 13:51 |
ashams | thelinuxer, I know, and me too to you, btw | 13:51 |
thelinuxer | thelinuxer: u have no reason for that ... | 13:52 |
thelinuxer | i have a million | 13:52 |
ashams | especially when you started to send msgs outside the council ml, cuz you think ppl have filtered it out and thus not responding | 13:52 |
thelinuxer | at least i sent everything to everyone! | 13:53 |
ashams | and, I knew from the first second I saw you set council as team admin that you contacted Karim individually :) | 13:53 |
thelinuxer | i didn't contact him :) | 13:53 |
ashams | dam you said that you contacted him on the meeting | 13:53 |
ashams | damn* :P | 13:53 |
thelinuxer | nope i didn't | 13:53 |
ashams | yes, you did | 13:54 |
thelinuxer | i said i can't find a reason to ask him to do anything | 13:54 |
thelinuxer | since i have the privilege to make the council admins | 13:54 |
ashams | 2a2ta3 dera3i men la3'lo3'o you said you contacted Karim | 13:54 |
thelinuxer | and even if i contacted karim fayez individually that's a lot better than making a scene out of it! | 13:54 |
thelinuxer | wallahy i never said it! and should trust me when i tell u something! | 13:55 |
ashams | Ok, I'll go ask Karim :P | 13:55 |
ashams | hehehehe :D | 13:55 |
thelinuxer | and the point itself is really irrelevant! | 13:55 |
ashams | yep | 13:55 |
thelinuxer | karim is outside the council set | 13:55 |
thelinuxer | he is not making any decisions currently | 13:55 |
ashams | do you agree with creating those 2 FGs? | 13:55 |
ashams | by yourself? | 13:56 |
ashams | just taking an opinion | 13:56 |
ashams | mesh 7aram ya3ni | 13:56 |
thelinuxer | no objections what so ever on creating any team that will tasks to do for the community | 13:56 |
ashams | ahhhhhhhhhh, finally | 13:57 |
ashams | thnx | 13:57 |
ashams | one more thing | 13:57 |
ashams | thelinuxer, I want to create a team (-devel) to use it for mentorship | 13:58 |
thelinuxer | lol | 13:58 |
ashams | then I have a project in mind that the whole team can work out :) | 13:58 |
ashams | yeah, lol | 13:58 |
thelinuxer | didn't u say this is not one of the locos objectives ? | 13:58 |
thelinuxer | ;) | 13:58 |
ashams | let me mail you about that project and mentorship with more details | 13:58 |
ashams | no I didn't say it | 13:59 |
ashams | I swear | 13:59 |
thelinuxer | when i was talking about the development FG | 13:59 |
ashams | I said, let's split FGs from our educational efforts | 13:59 |
thelinuxer | and will teach people packaging as an intro to ubuntu development | 13:59 |
ashams | may be I misunderstood you dude | 13:59 |
thelinuxer | ok np | 13:59 |
ashams | but seriously, I love this idea | 13:59 |
thelinuxer | just make the proposal | 13:59 |
ashams | OK | 14:00 |
thelinuxer | if we have only one person working in the team we can create a team | 14:00 |
ashams | Im making it and don't dare you to object then | 14:00 |
thelinuxer | as long as it has a separate objective from the others | 14:00 |
ashams | It would be me :D | 14:00 |
ashams | ok, sure | 14:00 |
thelinuxer | ya3ny eih would be me ? | 14:00 |
ashams | "<thelinuxer> if we have only one person working in the team we can create a team" => That would be me that person | 14:01 |
thelinuxer | ok | 14:01 |
ashams | :D | 14:01 |
thelinuxer | create the team and don't forget to the council as owner | 14:01 |
ashams | ok, I'll make a proposal, to describe the whole thing, you guys will like the project idea, I swear | 14:02 |
thelinuxer | bos rule of thumb .. | 14:02 |
thelinuxer | law it's direct contribution to ubuntu itself .. it's fine | 14:03 |
thelinuxer | law for our internal structure then we need to talk | 14:03 |
ashams | it is to the whole community | 14:03 |
ashams | not even ubuntu only | 14:03 |
ashams | linux as a whole | 14:03 |
thelinuxer | u didn't understand me .. | 14:03 |
ashams | and I think it wasn't created before | 14:03 |
thelinuxer | fe 7agat internal structure | 14:03 |
thelinuxer | we fe 7agat el donia ely barra | 14:03 |
ashams | what you mean? | 14:03 |
ashams | ok, I need elaboration | 14:04 |
thelinuxer | law el donia ely barra yeb2a akeed we can make whatever contributions u want | 14:04 |
thelinuxer | laken law internal structure we need to talk | 14:04 |
ashams | how can be a project related to "internal structure" ? | 14:04 |
ashams | it's educational | 14:04 |
thelinuxer | it can be internal law el website masalan | 14:05 |
thelinuxer | soma we were talking about a team not specifically a project | 14:05 |
ashams | ok, I got it | 14:05 |
thelinuxer | cool | 14:06 |
ashams | thelinuxer, Wazery : ok, I sent it | 14:24 |
thelinuxer | ashams: reading it | 14:24 |
thelinuxer | and will reply isA | 14:24 |
ashams | cool, thanks | 14:25 |
ashams | ppl not on the council ML, you can reach it here: https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-eg-council/msg00246.html | 14:26 |
ashams | thelinuxer, sorry for beibg that very annoying, plz bear with me, have reg'd the ubuntu-eg project to lp? | 14:36 |
thelinuxer | ashams: no i haven't | 14:36 |
thelinuxer | do u want it now ? | 14:37 |
ashams | when you have time of course :D | 14:37 |
thelinuxer | tayeb r we sure about everything ? | 14:37 |
ashams | I suggest to make -council as maintainer and ubuntu-eg as driver | 14:38 |
thelinuxer | ashams: cause deleting a project will require a launchpad admin | 14:38 |
ashams | Yes, I hope so, don't worry | 14:38 |
ashams | if it failed we'll keep it for history | 14:38 |
ashams | plus, I did request many project s to be deleted before | 14:38 |
ashams | :) | 14:38 |
thelinuxer | lol | 14:39 |
thelinuxer | tayeb i will create it | 14:39 |
thelinuxer | bas y can't u create it ? | 14:39 |
thelinuxer | eih el moshkela ? | 14:39 |
thelinuxer | i am creating it right now | 14:39 |
thelinuxer | project name "ubuntu-eg" right ? | 14:39 |
ashams | sure dude | 14:40 |
ashams | yay | 14:40 |
thelinuxer | Title "Ubuntu Egypt Development" | 14:40 |
ashams | nope, just ubuntu egypt | 14:40 |
ashams | it will be used to track FGs work | 14:40 |
ashams | do what you see best | 14:40 |
thelinuxer | ok | 14:41 |
ashams | coooool | 14:41 |
ashams | :D | 14:41 |
thelinuxer | Summary ? | 14:41 |
thelinuxer | give it to me 3ashan mesh 7a3od afakkar ana :D | 14:41 |
ashams | heck, you estebzazy ;) | 14:42 |
thelinuxer | ashams: ana 3amalt el project https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-eg | 14:47 |
thelinuxer | ana shayef el maintainer yekoon ubuntu-eg-ouncil | 14:47 |
ashams | heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiih | 14:47 |
ashams | yep, I +1 this :D | 14:48 |
thelinuxer | bas sa7ee7 is it right to track el 7agat deh 3ala launchpad? | 14:48 |
thelinuxer | ya3ny r there any other team doing it ? | 14:48 |
ashams | ubuntu-community does it along time ago :D | 14:48 |
ashams | and driver ubuntu-eg, I guess, what you think | 14:48 |
thelinuxer | hmm .. | 14:49 |
thelinuxer | dah eih el permission beta3et el driver? | 14:49 |
ashams | I dont' know it exactly, but it's much lesser than el maintainer | 14:49 |
ashams | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-community | 14:49 |
thelinuxer | tayeb lets leave it like that till we have a need to change it | 14:50 |
ashams | dude, you sat -council as driver right? | 14:50 |
thelinuxer | yes | 14:50 |
thelinuxer | maintainer and driver | 14:51 |
ashams | from here, I have no control on anything | 14:51 |
thelinuxer | try a gain | 14:51 |
thelinuxer | again* | 14:51 |
ashams | yep, saw it now | 14:51 |
ashams | ok, I'll search for Driver privilages and ping you back :D | 14:52 |
ashams | ah, hasally el3asr first | 14:52 |
thelinuxer | ok | 14:52 |
ashams | thelinuxer, https://help.launchpad.net/Projects/Registering#Roles_within_projects | 14:53 |
thelinuxer | hmmm ... | 14:54 |
thelinuxer | we will able to assign bugs to a whole team ? | 14:55 |
thelinuxer | yes we can | 14:56 |
thelinuxer | 7'alas i configured the bugs tracker | 14:56 |
thelinuxer | and we cann assign a bug to a whole team | 14:56 |
thelinuxer | i think this is exactly what we want ... | 14:56 |
thelinuxer | ashams: ping ^ | 14:59 |
ashams | thelinuxer, yes, I think | 15:13 |
thelinuxer | ashams: tab cool | 15:21 |
ashams | :D | 15:22 |
thelinuxer | ashams: i will try to make some bugs on bug squad and art | 15:25 |
thelinuxer | ashams: sorry i meant support squad | 15:28 |
ashams | ok, cool | 15:29 |
ashams | test it ya man | 15:29 |
ashams | have fun :D | 15:30 |
ashams | Y u ask me? :) | 15:30 |
thelinuxer | howa 3ashan i will be assigning tasks like creating the banner for 3000 members we keda | 15:32 |
ashams | cool ya man, ok, file a bug or question and assign it to -art | 15:33 |
ashams | :D | 15:33 |
thelinuxer | yes but i am waiting for the mailing list to be created | 15:34 |
ashams | ok, lets' create it | 15:34 |
ashams | one sec | 15:34 |
thelinuxer | i created it | 15:34 |
ashams | cool | 15:34 |
thelinuxer | just waiting for launchpad to complete the process | 15:34 |
ashams | ah, ok :) | 15:34 |
ashams | you can get notified by each question: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu-eg/+answer-contact | 15:36 |
thelinuxer | oh boy! this is gonna cause some headache :) | 15:37 |
ashams | hehe, not yet :P | 15:37 |
ashams | and subscribe to bug traffic too: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-eg/+subscribe | 15:37 |
thelinuxer | now i have to ask wazery to join the mailing list! | 15:39 |
ashams | hahahaha :D | 15:39 |
thelinuxer | ashams: leeh mesh implicit talama managed from launchpad .. | 15:39 |
ashams | implicit means what? | 15:39 |
thelinuxer | ya3ny talama ur a member yeb2a u subscribe automatically to the team's mailing list | 15:40 |
ashams | ah, that's stupid thing, launchpad is bulky | 15:41 |
thelinuxer | yes it is! | 15:41 |
ashams | I tried the poll thing, It drove me crazy, just to type in the date to start a poll | 15:41 |
ashams | there's no pointers on the polls page it | 15:41 |
ashams | ambiguous | 15:42 |
thelinuxer | ! | 15:43 |
ashams | oh, that ambiguous exclamation | 15:43 |
thelinuxer | lol | 15:43 |
ashams | but it still beautiful :D | 15:43 |
thelinuxer | do u know anything about squid ? | 15:44 |
ashams | heck, what is squid aslan? :D | 15:44 |
ashams | never mind :D | 15:44 |
thelinuxer | caching server AFAICR | 15:44 |
ashams | man, forget about it, you're keeping spitting weird terms :P | 15:45 |
thelinuxer | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squid_%28software%29 | 15:46 |
ashams | cool. checking it, thnx | 15:47 |
thelinuxer | ashams: AFAICR, As Far As I Can Remember. | 15:47 |
thelinuxer | ashams: btw ... | 15:47 |
ashams | ya ragel, wana elli eftakrtaha 7aga hi-tech :D | 15:47 |
thelinuxer | i tried to make some updates to my package .. | 15:48 |
thelinuxer | i found out i totally forget everything about packaging :D | 15:48 |
thelinuxer | ashams: looooooool, just google it man! | 15:48 |
ashams | LOL | 15:48 |
ashams | ok, time to remember, you'll be listed on mentors page for -devel team | 15:48 |
ashams | for packaging | 15:49 |
ashams | :D | 15:49 |
thelinuxer | ha2ow! | 15:49 |
ashams | hahahahahaahahahahaha :D | 15:49 |
thelinuxer | :D | 15:49 |
ashams | seriously, you'll | 15:49 |
thelinuxer | ana 3ayez agaza osboo3 men ely ana feeh dah 3ashan azaker all things related to packaging .. | 15:49 |
thelinuxer | begad there is too much documentation! | 15:49 |
thelinuxer | we 7agat le python we 7agat le Qt | 15:50 |
thelinuxer | and different tools that does exactly the same thing | 15:50 |
thelinuxer | matahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! | 15:50 |
ashams | yeah, you'll be listed for Qt too :P | 15:50 |
ashams | yep, I'm lost in it about 2 and half years now :D | 15:50 |
thelinuxer | Qt zay el fol we7'demak fe ay wa2t .. | 15:52 |
thelinuxer | bas el packaging is a real nightmare | 15:52 |
ashams | ok, let's start with Qt | 15:52 |
ashams | and somehow we'll replace packaging with UDD | 15:53 |
ashams | Ubuntu Distributed Development, using Bazaar | 15:53 |
thelinuxer | ashams: check this question | 15:53 |
thelinuxer | https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/190347 | 15:53 |
thelinuxer | UDD isn't different from packaging | 15:53 |
thelinuxer | ur pkg just live in bzr | 15:53 |
thelinuxer | and is automatically built for your distro every night for continuous integration purposes | 15:54 |
ashams | yep, but it;s a bit easier | 15:54 |
thelinuxer | still researching it but I don't think it's easier | 15:54 |
thelinuxer | the core task is the same | 15:54 |
ashams | have you seen dholbach's development guide | 15:55 |
ashams | ? | 15:55 |
thelinuxer | yes but didn't have the time to read | 15:55 |
thelinuxer | he sent to me when i was telling him i will give a packaging session | 15:55 |
thelinuxer | but things got crazy at my end | 15:55 |
ashams | yeah, it always go crazy | 15:58 |
ashams | hope some1 will answer that question, or even fix it :D | 15:58 |
thelinuxer | ya raaaaaaaab | 16:00 |
ashams | haha ;) | 16:01 |
thelinuxer | ashams: i will go now | 16:06 |
thelinuxer | catch u later man | 16:06 |
seiflotfy | hi ashams | 17:38 |
ashams | hey buddy, how r u doing? :-) seiflotfy | 17:39 |
MohamedAlaa98 | hi all | 17:55 |
MohamedAlaa98 | :D | 17:55 |
ashams | hi ;) | 17:56 |
MohamedAlaa98 | how are you? | 17:56 |
ashams | fine, ya man | 17:57 |
ashams | how u? | 17:57 |
MohamedAlaa98 | fine :D | 17:57 |
ashams | el7amdo lellah | 17:58 |
MohamedAlaa98 | enta feen men zaman ,nezelt tesaly elesha we ekhtafet ba3daha ;) | 17:59 |
ashams | haha | 18:00 |
ashams | LOL :D | 18:00 |
* ashams yawns | 18:03 | |
ashams | I have to sleep, about to reach 36 hrs awake | 18:04 |
ashams | ttyl | 18:04 |
MohamedAlaa98 | Wow | 18:04 |
ashams | yeah | 18:04 |
ashams | :) | 18:04 |
ashams | bye | 18:05 |
seiflotfy | im fine | 18:05 |
seiflotfy | kinda busy as usual | 18:05 |
MohamedAlaa98 | Tesba7 3ala 5eer | 18:05 |
MohamedAlaa98 | bye | 18:05 |
seiflotfy | n8 | 18:05 |
MohamedAlaa98 | you're always busy, what do you do? | 18:08 |
MohamedAlaa98 | Didn't finish your job yesterday? | 18:10 |
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