[13:26] thelinuxer, have a sec? [13:26] you'll log out :) [13:26] :P [13:26] ashams: i am thinking about logging out ... [13:27] thelinuxer, hehe [13:27] 2afashtak :P [13:27] bos ba2a, how can council monitor FGs activity? [13:27] it can not subscribe to their MLs [13:27] ashams: ur going to tell me ? wala this is an actual question ? [13:27] right? [13:28] hehe :) [13:28] thelinuxer, take it easy, I won't bite [13:28] council members can not monitor FGs' activity through subscribing to MLs [13:28] ok? [13:29] la2 i am asking begad ... ur building up 3ashan tewsal le argument wala betes2alny .. [13:29] 3ashan awsal le argument tab3an [13:29] but it can be a real question [13:30] thelinuxer, really, do you have anything in mind to solve this? [13:30] well there are multiple answers to ur question [13:30] plz, it's not an ambush :-) [13:30] 1. Join their mailing list [13:30] 2? [13:30] 2. Follow tasks on launchpad (or something like it) [13:30] that's it :) [13:31] 3. Make one council member monitor one FG [13:31] again, won't work [13:31] let me answer ba2a [13:32] 1st and 3rd, why should a council member join an FG if s/he is not interested [13:32] just being there to monitor them [13:32] this would be sucks [13:32] right? [13:33] mesh lazem bas if there is another efficient way lets do it [13:33] yep, regestir a project on lp, and when someone/fg requests a task from another fg, it just opens a task [13:33] this way anyone can follow bugs/questions on that project [13:34] and everything is visible even to aliens :) [13:34] do you object? [13:34] akeed la2 [13:34] cool [13:34] one sec I'll bring you a link [13:34] :-) [13:34] man, I need your name it [13:35] it's you whose name should be recorded on it [13:35] thelinuxer, https://launchpad.net/projects/+new [13:35] are you ok with this? [13:35] i am not sure ok with what ? [13:36] what's with the name thing ? [13:36] with creating it, i mean [13:36] you were objecting before [13:36] but now, thanks god :) [13:37] 2nd point; plz, and for last time, I swear to God, why should we late some FG like Event Organizers? === Menopia is now known as Wazery [13:38] ashams: i never objected to creating a project! [13:38] i was asking u what do u want me to do [13:38] Oh God, I'm stupid [13:39] no ur not [13:39] el mohem ur 2nd point [13:39] shoot :) [13:39] elaborate more plz [13:39] ok [13:39] brb [13:41] thelinuxer, you said: "That way we will be able more FGs on need basis at least." about postponing creating some FGs, how can't be a need for "Operators" and event "Organizers" ? [13:41] Wazery, Hi buddy [13:42] hi ashams [13:42] Wazery, how are you doing? [13:42] do you have a sec? [13:42] fine [13:42] sure :) [13:43] el7 [13:43] I will continue editing the approval application now [13:43] do you object to create event "Organizers" and "Operators" ? [13:43] Wazery, Ok, dude, I appreciate what you do :D [13:45] I cant understand this, please elaborate [13:45] ok [13:46] I mean that there's a need to create 2 FGs, "event Organizers" and "channels moderators" ? [13:46] do you see a need, as I do? [13:46] back [13:46] wb [13:46] ashams: please lets not that this one-on-one conversations .. [13:46] ashams, maybe [13:47] if we need an FG we will create [13:47] just provide a proposal [13:47] ok i propose to create 2 FGs, Organizers and Operators? [13:48] organizers to help with doing everything with organizing an event [13:48] lol [13:49] this is called lobbying :D [13:49] yeah, I tried and it worked :P [13:49] bos the 5 council members should be present when u discuss ur idea [13:49] ok, I'm not asking you to action it [13:50] just you guys agree? [13:50] thelinuxer, Wazery ^^ [13:50] i am approving of the method itself [13:50] what you mean? [13:50] is this collecting our votes in private ? [13:51] walla estefsar keda law el fekra 7elwa walla la2 ? [13:51] noooooo, I just want to know [13:51] I'm curios ya akhi [13:51] enta 3arefny ba2eet saye2 el neya belnesbalak :D [13:51] thelinuxer, I know, and me too to you, btw [13:52] thelinuxer: u have no reason for that ... [13:52] i have a million [13:52] especially when you started to send msgs outside the council ml, cuz you think ppl have filtered it out and thus not responding [13:53] at least i sent everything to everyone! [13:53] and, I knew from the first second I saw you set council as team admin that you contacted Karim individually :) [13:53] i didn't contact him :) [13:53] dam you said that you contacted him on the meeting [13:53] damn* :P [13:53] nope i didn't [13:54] yes, you did [13:54] i said i can't find a reason to ask him to do anything [13:54] since i have the privilege to make the council admins [13:54] 2a2ta3 dera3i men la3'lo3'o you said you contacted Karim [13:54] and even if i contacted karim fayez individually that's a lot better than making a scene out of it! [13:55] wallahy i never said it! and should trust me when i tell u something! [13:55] Ok, I'll go ask Karim :P [13:55] hehehehe :D [13:55] and the point itself is really irrelevant! [13:55] yep [13:55] karim is outside the council set [13:55] he is not making any decisions currently [13:55] do you agree with creating those 2 FGs? [13:56] by yourself? [13:56] just taking an opinion [13:56] mesh 7aram ya3ni [13:56] no objections what so ever on creating any team that will tasks to do for the community [13:57] ahhhhhhhhhh, finally [13:57] thnx [13:57] one more thing [13:58] thelinuxer, I want to create a team (-devel) to use it for mentorship [13:58] lol [13:58] then I have a project in mind that the whole team can work out :) [13:58] yeah, lol [13:58] didn't u say this is not one of the locos objectives ? [13:58] ;) [13:58] let me mail you about that project and mentorship with more details [13:59] no I didn't say it [13:59] I swear [13:59] when i was talking about the development FG [13:59] I said, let's split FGs from our educational efforts [13:59] and will teach people packaging as an intro to ubuntu development [13:59] may be I misunderstood you dude [13:59] ok np [13:59] but seriously, I love this idea [13:59] just make the proposal [14:00] OK [14:00] if we have only one person working in the team we can create a team [14:00] Im making it and don't dare you to object then [14:00] as long as it has a separate objective from the others [14:00] It would be me :D [14:00] ok, sure [14:00] ya3ny eih would be me ? [14:01] " if we have only one person working in the team we can create a team" => That would be me that person [14:01] ok [14:01] :D [14:01] create the team and don't forget to the council as owner [14:02] ok, I'll make a proposal, to describe the whole thing, you guys will like the project idea, I swear [14:02] bos rule of thumb .. [14:03] law it's direct contribution to ubuntu itself .. it's fine [14:03] law for our internal structure then we need to talk [14:03] it is to the whole community [14:03] not even ubuntu only [14:03] linux as a whole [14:03] u didn't understand me .. [14:03] and I think it wasn't created before [14:03] fe 7agat internal structure [14:03] we fe 7agat el donia ely barra [14:03] what you mean? [14:04] ok, I need elaboration [14:04] law el donia ely barra yeb2a akeed we can make whatever contributions u want [14:04] laken law internal structure we need to talk [14:04] how can be a project related to "internal structure" ? [14:04] it's educational [14:05] it can be internal law el website masalan [14:05] soma we were talking about a team not specifically a project [14:05] ok, I got it [14:06] cool [14:24] thelinuxer, Wazery : ok, I sent it [14:24] ashams: reading it [14:24] and will reply isA [14:25] cool, thanks [14:26] ppl not on the council ML, you can reach it here: https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-eg-council/msg00246.html [14:36] thelinuxer, sorry for beibg that very annoying, plz bear with me, have reg'd the ubuntu-eg project to lp? [14:36] ashams: no i haven't [14:37] do u want it now ? [14:37] when you have time of course :D [14:37] tayeb r we sure about everything ? [14:38] I suggest to make -council as maintainer and ubuntu-eg as driver [14:38] ashams: cause deleting a project will require a launchpad admin [14:38] Yes, I hope so, don't worry [14:38] if it failed we'll keep it for history [14:38] plus, I did request many project s to be deleted before [14:38] :) [14:39] lol [14:39] tayeb i will create it [14:39] bas y can't u create it ? [14:39] eih el moshkela ? [14:39] i am creating it right now [14:39] project name "ubuntu-eg" right ? [14:40] sure dude [14:40] yay [14:40] Title "Ubuntu Egypt Development" [14:40] nope, just ubuntu egypt [14:40] it will be used to track FGs work [14:40] do what you see best [14:41] ok [14:41] coooool [14:41] :D [14:41] Summary ? [14:41] give it to me 3ashan mesh 7a3od afakkar ana :D [14:42] heck, you estebzazy ;) [14:47] ashams: ana 3amalt el project https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-eg [14:47] ana shayef el maintainer yekoon ubuntu-eg-ouncil [14:47] heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiih [14:48] yep, I +1 this :D [14:48] bas sa7ee7 is it right to track el 7agat deh 3ala launchpad? [14:48] ya3ny r there any other team doing it ? [14:48] ubuntu-community does it along time ago :D [14:48] and driver ubuntu-eg, I guess, what you think [14:49] hmm .. [14:49] dah eih el permission beta3et el driver? [14:49] I dont' know it exactly, but it's much lesser than el maintainer [14:49] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-community [14:50] tayeb lets leave it like that till we have a need to change it [14:50] dude, you sat -council as driver right? [14:50] yes [14:51] maintainer and driver [14:51] from here, I have no control on anything [14:51] try a gain [14:51] again* [14:51] yep, saw it now [14:52] ok, I'll search for Driver privilages and ping you back :D [14:52] ah, hasally el3asr first [14:52] ok [14:53] thelinuxer, https://help.launchpad.net/Projects/Registering#Roles_within_projects [14:54] hmmm ... [14:55] we will able to assign bugs to a whole team ? [14:56] yes we can [14:56] 7'alas i configured the bugs tracker [14:56] and we cann assign a bug to a whole team [14:56] i think this is exactly what we want ... [14:59] ashams: ping ^ [15:13] thelinuxer, yes, I think [15:21] ashams: tab cool [15:22] :D [15:25] ashams: i will try to make some bugs on bug squad and art [15:28] ashams: sorry i meant support squad [15:29] ok, cool [15:29] test it ya man [15:30] have fun :D [15:30] Y u ask me? :) [15:32] howa 3ashan i will be assigning tasks like creating the banner for 3000 members we keda [15:33] cool ya man, ok, file a bug or question and assign it to -art [15:33] :D [15:34] yes but i am waiting for the mailing list to be created [15:34] ok, lets' create it [15:34] one sec [15:34] i created it [15:34] cool [15:34] just waiting for launchpad to complete the process [15:34] ah, ok :) [15:36] you can get notified by each question: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu-eg/+answer-contact [15:37] oh boy! this is gonna cause some headache :) [15:37] hehe, not yet :P [15:37] and subscribe to bug traffic too: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-eg/+subscribe [15:39] now i have to ask wazery to join the mailing list! [15:39] hahahaha :D [15:39] ashams: leeh mesh implicit talama managed from launchpad .. [15:39] implicit means what? [15:40] ya3ny talama ur a member yeb2a u subscribe automatically to the team's mailing list [15:41] ah, that's stupid thing, launchpad is bulky [15:41] yes it is! [15:41] I tried the poll thing, It drove me crazy, just to type in the date to start a poll [15:41] there's no pointers on the polls page it [15:42] ambiguous [15:43] ! [15:43] oh, that ambiguous exclamation [15:43] lol [15:43] but it still beautiful :D [15:44] do u know anything about squid ? [15:44] heck, what is squid aslan? :D [15:44] never mind :D [15:44] caching server AFAICR [15:45] man, forget about it, you're keeping spitting weird terms :P [15:46] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squid_%28software%29 [15:47] cool. checking it, thnx [15:47] ashams: AFAICR, As Far As I Can Remember. [15:47] ashams: btw ... [15:47] ya ragel, wana elli eftakrtaha 7aga hi-tech :D [15:48] i tried to make some updates to my package .. [15:48] i found out i totally forget everything about packaging :D [15:48] ashams: looooooool, just google it man! [15:48] LOL [15:48] ok, time to remember, you'll be listed on mentors page for -devel team [15:49] for packaging [15:49] :D [15:49] ha2ow! [15:49] hahahahahaahahahahaha :D [15:49] :D [15:49] seriously, you'll [15:49] ana 3ayez agaza osboo3 men ely ana feeh dah 3ashan azaker all things related to packaging .. [15:49] begad there is too much documentation! [15:50] we 7agat le python we 7agat le Qt [15:50] and different tools that does exactly the same thing [15:50] matahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! [15:50] yeah, you'll be listed for Qt too :P [15:50] yep, I'm lost in it about 2 and half years now :D [15:52] Qt zay el fol we7'demak fe ay wa2t .. [15:52] bas el packaging is a real nightmare [15:52] ok, let's start with Qt [15:53] and somehow we'll replace packaging with UDD [15:53] Ubuntu Distributed Development, using Bazaar [15:53] ashams: check this question [15:53] https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/190347 [15:53] UDD isn't different from packaging [15:53] ur pkg just live in bzr [15:54] and is automatically built for your distro every night for continuous integration purposes [15:54] yep, but it;s a bit easier [15:54] still researching it but I don't think it's easier [15:54] the core task is the same [15:55] have you seen dholbach's development guide [15:55] ? [15:55] yes but didn't have the time to read [15:55] he sent to me when i was telling him i will give a packaging session [15:55] but things got crazy at my end [15:58] yeah, it always go crazy [15:58] hope some1 will answer that question, or even fix it :D [16:00] ya raaaaaaaab [16:01] haha ;) [16:06] ashams: i will go now [16:06] catch u later man [17:38] hi ashams [17:39] hey buddy, how r u doing? :-) seiflotfy [17:55] hi all [17:55] :D [17:56] hi ;) [17:56] how are you? [17:57] fine, ya man [17:57] how u? [17:57] fine :D [17:58] el7amdo lellah [17:59] enta feen men zaman ,nezelt tesaly elesha we ekhtafet ba3daha ;) [18:00] haha [18:00] LOL :D [18:03] * ashams yawns [18:04] I have to sleep, about to reach 36 hrs awake [18:04] ttyl [18:04] Wow [18:04] yeah [18:04] :) [18:05] bye [18:05] im fine [18:05] kinda busy as usual [18:05] Tesba7 3ala 5eer [18:05] bye [18:05] n8 [18:08] you're always busy, what do you do? [18:10] Didn't finish your job yesterday?