[03:41] <micahg> ScottK: re anki, it's an arch all package, so I think the python dependency is proper in B-D-I
[03:41] <ScottK> micahg: You still need to satisy clean from build-depends.
[03:41] <ScottK> The rule for b-d is needed for arch any or clean.
[03:42] <ScottK> If you don't need it for clean (I'd be surprised) then it's fine.
[03:43] <micahg> ScottK: how do I check that, just try to build a source in a chroot without python?
[03:43] <micahg> *source package
[03:49]  * micahg doesn't get a warning in the chroot except for the lack of locale, also, there's nothing python related in the clean rule save for the manual .py[co] removal
[03:57] <ScottK> micahg: That's the simplest way.
[03:57] <micahg> ScottK: ok, did that, doesn't seem to be a problem, do I need to do a full build first?
[03:57] <ScottK> Shouldn't.
[03:57]  * micahg actually just ran debian/rules clean
[03:57] <ScottK> As long as you made sure 'python' was not installed.
[03:58] <ScottK> That should be sufficient.
[03:58] <micahg> grr, was already in the chroot
[03:59] <micahg> ah, I have devscripts in my chroot for some reason
[04:00] <micahg> clean rule still worked without the python package
[04:05] <ScottK> OK.
[04:05] <ScottK> Never mind me then.
[04:06] <micahg> ok, thanks :)
[06:00] <pitti> cjwatson cdimage docs> cheers!
[10:18] <cjwatson> Xubuntu daily poked again following build failure, and I've moved it five minutes earlier to try to reduce the risk of running into LP downtime which is what I think the last two failures have been
[10:23] <jamespage> Daviey: I think bug 948993 is now ready for review
[10:23] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 948993 in rabbitmq-server "[FFe] [MIR] rabbitmq-stomp, rabbitmq-erlang-client" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/948993
[11:28] <Daviey> jamespage: okay, will look in the next 1hr or so
[11:32] <jamespage> Daviey: ta
[12:51] <mvo> pitti: hey, sorry for nagging, but could  we get software-center into oneiric-proposed ? the preicse version is uploaded and IIRC you looked at it last friday and the blocker was the missing precise upload, right?
[12:53] <pitti> mvo: ah, good; sure
[12:53] <pitti> mvo: bug 938736 is still open
[12:53] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 938736 in software-center "For-purchase apps not showing up on Oneiric" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/938736
[12:54] <pitti> mvo: bug 949725 as well
[12:54] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 949725 in software-center "whats new does not refresh on db changes" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/949725
[13:22] <cyphermox> hey, could someone please review https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/950313
[13:22] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 950313 in network-manager "[FFe] Update NetworkManager to a recent snapshot in prevision for the 0.9.4 release." [Undecided,New]
[14:02] <pitti> mvo: did you see my response above?
[14:24] <mvo> pitti: ups, sorry, missed that, I updated the bug with the commits that fixed the issue
[14:27] <pitti> mvo: ah, thanks
[14:30] <pitti> mvo: hm, 949725 is still open
[14:30] <pitti> and no recent comment from you
[14:31]  * mvo looks
[14:33] <mvo> pitti: updated this one as well, sorry again
[14:34] <pitti> mvo: thanks; seems they don't always find their way into the debian/changelog?
[14:35] <mvo> that was sloppiness on our part :/
[15:06] <stgraber> infinity: any luck with the metalink generation for Edubuntu dailies?
[15:06] <infinity> stgraber: Nope, my weekend turned out to actually be busy.  Diving into cdimage today.
[15:08] <stgraber> infinity: ok :) I wasn't around much either so I only had a quick look now. As long as I get something to test before beta2 I'm happy with that.
[15:11]  * infinity nods.
[15:11] <infinity> stgraber: I think the only work I got done on the weekend was making qtwebkit-source build.
[15:11] <infinity> stgraber: Which was less about working, and more about checking back every 8 hours to see if I'd done it right.
[15:20] <phillw> Not sure if I'm asking even the right question, but would access to the 16G model http://www.kimsufi.co.uk/ help you guys in anyway? It's currently sat twiddling its thumbs at about 1% cpu time. Currently CentOS, but popping on a Ubuntu VM would not be a big job?
[16:30] <scott-work> do i need to provide more information or documentation for ubuntu studio's LTS consideration?
[16:47] <micahg> scott-work: that's a TB question, not a release team question :)
[16:48] <scott-work> yes, sorry, you are obviously correct, i'll respond to the mailing list then
[17:22] <cyphermox> ScottK: thanks for looking into the ffe for nm-applet. note that it bring in a difference from what the plasma applet exposes to the users
[17:23] <ScottK> OK.
[17:23] <ScottK> I was first concerned about the impact on nm-applet.
[17:23] <cyphermox> sure.
[17:25] <cyphermox> I was only adding that because it's relevant if both UIs don't show the same options
[17:27] <ScottK> Right.
[17:28] <ScottK> It might be useful to talk to the p-w-nm devs and see if they would support it.
[17:30] <cyphermox> what's the best way to contact them for this kind of thing?
[17:32] <ScottK> cyphermox: Ask Riddell who to ask would be my plan.
[17:32] <cyphermox> ScottK: Thanks.
[18:36] <ScottK> Would someone please respin Kubuntu desktop now that the farsight thing is resolved?  I'd like to see how it looks now.
[18:36] <ScottK> (i386 or amd64 is enough)
[18:38] <cjwatson> ScottK: running
[18:38] <ScottK> cjwatson: Thanks.
[18:38] <cjwatson> (I just did the lot, less typing)
[18:38] <ScottK> Right.
[23:31] <GrueMaster> stgraber: When you (or someone else) gets a chance, can you remove the armel images from the daily tracker (except netboot armel+omap4).  We are no longer making these images, so testing is fruitless.
[23:31] <stgraber> GrueMaster: doing now
[23:33] <GrueMaster> Thanks.  I don't always do daily image smoke testing (can't readily automate it yet), but today was a special case.  Lots of users complaining about omap issues.
[23:33] <stgraber> GrueMaster: done, only armel left is Core which stills build daily
[23:33] <GrueMaster> Yep.  netboot armel+omap4 should also remain, as it is an easy way to test the armel pool.
[23:34] <stgraber> ah, right, let me restore that one then
[23:35] <GrueMaster> stgraber: ^^^
[23:35] <GrueMaster> ok.  (thought you had wandered off again).  :P
[23:37] <stgraber> restored
[23:38] <GrueMaster> Thanks.
[23:39] <GrueMaster> Now I need to figure out why server omap image blows up.  sigh.
[23:46] <infinity> We have netboot armel+omap as well.
[23:47] <infinity> stgraber: netboot omap images seems to have gone from the tracker entirely.
[23:47] <infinity> stgraber: armel and armhf..
[23:47] <GrueMaster> infinity: Yes, this I know.  The odd thing is the desktop image works, and so does the omap4 server image.
[23:48] <infinity> GrueMaster: Oh, that wasn't in response to your server comment.
[23:48] <infinity> GrueMaster: armhf+omap server is acting up?
[23:48] <GrueMaster> infinity: We are only testing omap4 netboot actively at this time.  We'll probably keep the images for other netboots, but they will be mostly ignored.
[23:49] <infinity> Oh, yeah, if we're not testing them, fair enough.  No need to track them.
[23:49] <infinity> stgraber: Ignore me.
[23:49] <GrueMaster> And yes, ubuntu-server armhf+omap goes poof on second boot.
[23:49] <GrueMaster> No indications as to why in the logs that I can see.
[23:50] <infinity> Weird, given that it does nothing different from the desktop image up to that point.
[23:50] <infinity> Maybe there's just something goofy with today's daily.
[23:51] <GrueMaster> I hope it is a random thing.  btw, md5sums???
[23:51] <GrueMaster> pretty please???
[23:52] <infinity> Got a bit side tracked today, but yeah, looking at it tonight.
[23:52] <GrueMaster> Ok.
[23:52] <infinity> After I take some time out to reset my brain with a movie or something.
[23:53] <GrueMaster> I know the feeling.  I was supposed to be working on some automation scripting.  Got stuck with this, armadaxp kernel goofiness, etc.
[23:54] <GrueMaster> Need something like "mirror /dev/gruemaster".
[23:54] <infinity> Nah, just need to take a bit of "you" time and relax.
[23:55] <GrueMaster> Can't.  Weather sucks too much to do anything.  40f degrees and raining.  hard.
[23:56] <GrueMaster> I did take ~3 hours of me time yesterday...and did my taxes.  wheeee.
[23:56] <infinity> Hahaha.
[23:56] <infinity> Yeah, I did that over the weekend, too.
[23:57] <infinity> Because when you travel to another city to help with a funeral, the only way to possibly make that more depressing is to bring your taxes with you.
[23:57]  * infinity is smart.