[08:53] <jibel> mvo, good morning
[08:53] <jibel> mvo, did you revert/change something on Lucid upgrade jobs ? The error 'dpkg is already installed' is back
[08:59] <mvo> hey jibel
[09:00] <mvo> jibel: let me check
[09:00] <mvo> jibel: meh, yes - I think I know what caused this
[09:02] <mvo> jibel: I think it would be good to get the apt fix  from lucid-proposed to lucid-updates as tihs is a issue for more users
[09:43] <jibel> mvo, unrelated question. What's the easiest way to calculate dependencies for packages from another release ?  e.g on a server running oneiric I want to calculate dependencies for packages in Precise
[09:48] <mvo> jibel: create a aptroot directory with aptroot/etc/apt/sources.list etc
[09:49] <mvo> jibel: and then a cache using "cache=apt.Cache(rootdir="/path/to/aptroot")"
[09:49] <mvo> jibel: and then cache.update(); cache.open(); do_stuff_with_cache(cache)"
[09:54] <jibel> mvo, ah great! thanks
[09:59] <mvo> jibel: yw, let me know if I can help furth
[10:04] <jibel> mvo, that should be fine. for info I'm using it to trigger autopkgtest runs on dependency changes.
[10:04] <jibel> mvo, for example, if s-c had a dep8 control file, the tests would run if any of its dependency changed.
[10:05] <jibel> mvo, I'll start with the 1rst level dependencies but I think I'll make the level of dependencies configurable.
[10:14]  * mvo nods
[12:27] <botfather> Download complete and in download only mode
[12:28] <botfather> i am not able to upgrade any more
[12:31] <botfather> and how do i change my font size pleeease ;]
[12:54] <roignac_> botfather: System Settings - Universal Access - Text Size
[12:55] <botfather> ahhh universal
[12:55] <botfather> man thats not easy to find
[12:55] <botfather> thnx roignac_
[12:56] <botfather> hehe
[12:56] <botfather> this is a big large ;]
[12:56] <botfather> but better
[12:56] <botfather> zo
[15:50] <botfather> is it normal if i can't upgrade because ubuntu-desktop is locked ?
[15:55] <jibel> botfather, there is a unity/compiz upload in progress. It may take time until all the dependencies are built and available from the archive.
[15:56] <botfather> ah thnx jibel ;]
[15:56] <botfather> i am soo noob i reinstalled my ubuntu just to find the same prob arising
[15:57] <botfather> never seen this
[16:04] <hggdh> botfather: during the development you may find temporary inconsistencies on the archives -- some builds generate multiple packages, on different arches --. So you will have the archives not completely consistent.
[16:05] <hggdh> botfather: safest option is to wait until the requirements are all resolved
[16:05] <botfather> hggdh: yeah i understand now ;]
[16:05] <botfather> yeah well it all started when i wanted to test the new spotify client
[16:05] <botfather> that borks so i wanted to upgrade and went hacking apt-get ;]
[16:05] <botfather> thought it was my fault etc
[16:05] <hggdh> heh
[16:05] <botfather> but now reinstalled the beta from usb
[16:06] <botfather> works ok thouhg only thing i wish i could do normally is enlarging the nr of workspaces
[16:07] <hggdh> yeah, I also wonder, sometimes, about being limited to 4 workspaces
[16:07] <botfather> i am used to 8
[16:07] <botfather> develop my bot on ubuntu mainly
[16:11] <hggdh> most of my life is under byobu/t-mux, so I can survive with 4 workspaces (and two monitors)
[16:17] <botfather> yeah i irc from my screen jails
[16:17] <botfather> al my shell/hosting is on fbsd jails though
[16:17] <botfather> all my code in googlecode so i can nuke my os any time and reinstall get it working in 10 min or so
[16:18] <botfather> with unity i have really the feeling like its ment for touch devices
[16:18] <botfather> like having to click twice in the workspace switcher to switch
[16:28] <hggdh> I switch with super-shift-arrow
[16:29] <botfather> i switch with alt-f1 alt-f2 tec
[16:29] <botfather> etc
[16:29] <botfather> like consoles ;]
[21:06] <botfather> can this hud thing be disabled ?
[21:06] <botfather> everytime i want to switch to alt-f2 the thing popsup