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| MCR | Is this the home of current Compiz/Unity developers ? | 14:11 |
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| MCR | Question: Why is Cannonical dropping Emerald instead of using it as default window-decorator ? | 14:28 |
| MCR | It was developed to work with Compiz and is by far the most advanced win-decorator out there, so ? | 14:28 |
| MCR | now it does not build for Precise anymore (used it on 11.04 and 11.10) | 14:29 |
| MCR | It has many features other decorators simply do not have, like programmable title buttons, which are very useful for pros. | 14:29 |
| MCR | You can for example add 3 additional buttons to roll up/down, make the window sticky/unsticky or ontop/normal... | 14:30 |
| MCR | also no other window-decorator can look that good :) | 14:30 |
| MCR | So why not use it - it is already developed, there are many nice themes for it, there is the Emerald decorator, which is also working and fully developed... | 14:32 |
| MCR | Please make it at least optionally available for Precise... | 14:32 |
| MCR | Many folks would appreciate that for sure :) | 14:32 |
| MCR | http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-emerald-in-ubuntu-1110-oneiric.html | 14:32 |
| MCR | so long speech, short resumee: I want Emerald back - who is able to help ? ;) | 14:33 |
| MCR | Also another question: Will compiz-plugins-extra and *-unsupported be dropped for Prescise ? | 14:34 |
| MCR | What is the future of Compiz/Unity ? :) | 14:34 |
| MCR | *Precise | 14:34 |
| kamstrup | Trevinho: hey dude - just found a function to check if a pointer points into a mapped page (remember your write() trick?). I think you can use mincore() to a "clean" check | 14:38 |
| kamstrup | but it requires some page alignment juggling | 14:38 |
| kamstrup | :-) | 14:38 |
| mhr3 | kamstrup, madness! :P | 14:39 |
| JanC | MCR: is Emerald still maintained upstream? | 14:41 |
| Trevinho | kamstrup: cool :) | 14:41 |
| kamstrup | mhr3: dude, this is nothing. You wouldn't believe where I've been today ;-) | 14:43 |
| MCR | JanC: Not really, but it was made fit to work with compiz 0.9+ by soreau on the #compiz-dev channel not so long ago, then this version was available later via PPA for 11.04 and 11.10 | 14:43 |
| MCR | JanC: Now (on Precise) latest master is not compiling anymore :( | 14:43 |
| JanC | right, so it doesn't make sense to include it in Ubuntu then? | 14:44 |
| MCR | JanC: I was not able to get in contact with soreau, or am still waiting for answers... | 14:44 |
| mhr3 | kamstrup, i'll protect our nice userspace from the likes of you... "thou shall not pass!" :) | 14:44 |
| MCR | JanC: It would make sense for the reasons I posted above... | 14:44 |
| JanC | MCR: I'd say those reasons don't make sense when you look at the goals of the design team ;) | 14:45 |
| MCR | JanC: Where can I find those goals ? | 14:46 |
| JanC | and I'm sure nobody would object against including emerald in universe in 12.04, provided there is somebody taking care of it... | 14:47 |
| JanC | MCR: it's quite obvious the unity team doesn't want to maintain a window decorator with 700 options, right ;) | 14:48 |
| MCR | JanC: It is already fully developed so maintaining it would only mean keeping it compatible with the changes made to compiz - it would also mean to have a window decorator available that was designed to work together with Compiz - dropping features without proper replacement should not be the way to go IMHO... | 14:51 |
| MCR | JanC: If metacity or gtk-win-decorator would have the features I need and look that good, I would not complain - but they do neither | 14:53 |
| JanC | MCR: "good looking" is a subjective thing; I found most emerald themes to be quite ugly-looking back when I last tried it (which is several years ago now) | 14:56 |
| MCR | JanC: Sure it is. But stuff like buttons to shade/unshade sticky/unsticky roll up/down, transparency and glow, irregular window deco shapes are features that just Emerald is able to deliver and this is not subjective opinion... | 15:02 |
| MCR | JanC: I am sure you would find a window decoration for Emerald you would like these days ;) - there are plenty to choose from and you can individualize them as well... ;) | 15:04 |
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| mhall119 | can someone familiar with the sound menu API take a look at this for me? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/mhall119/devportal/soundmenu#preview | 18:48 |
| mhall119 | just let me know if I'm missing anything important, or got anything wrong | 18:48 |
| mhr3 | mhall119, ronoc is your guy for that | 19:41 |
| MCR | Who should I thank 4 making compiz-plugins-extra available in Universe :) ? | 19:43 |
| MCR | *for Precise | 19:43 |
| MCR | GREAT ! This is the right direction :-D | 19:44 |
| doctormon | Hey guys, bit OT, is gnomeui library depreciated? I keep on getting errors which indicate it can't find gtk. | 19:47 |
| doctormon | /usr/include/libgnomeui-2.0/libgnomeui/gnome-client.h:107:3: error: unknown type name ‘GtkObject’ | 19:47 |
| mhall119 | mhr3: yeah, I spoke with him this morning, be he's gone now | 19:47 |
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| JanC | most of libgnomeui has been deprecated for years AFAIK... | 21:21 |
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| apw | can anyone tell me the current dash key is? tapping Super no longer works | 22:37 |
| ppd | still super | 22:39 |
| apw | broken then, as of now | 22:40 |
| ppd | check in ccsm under "Key to show the launcher" | 22:40 |
| ppd | maybe something weird got in there | 22:41 |
| apw | same on two boxes | 22:41 |
| ppd | hm. strange. both run 5.6.0? | 22:42 |
| apw | whatever in the archive niow | 22:42 |
| ppd | you can check with unity --version | 22:42 |
| apw | unity 5.6.0 | 22:43 |
| apw | ppd keybinding says Super | 22:45 |
| ppd | what I would try is to set something else for the reveal key in ccsm and check again. But aside from that I have no real clue | 22:45 |
| angeloc | mhr3: daemon.vala:814.27-814.32: error: The name `Locate' does not exist in the context of `Unity.FilesLens.Daemon.perform_locate' | 23:33 |
| angeloc | mhr3: i have this error when compiling, can you enligthen me? | 23:33 |
| angeloc | mhr3: i merged form trunk! | 23:34 |
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