[06:39] <bsdfreak> Hi there!  I'm having some issues when I alt+tab between applications running on different virtual desktops.  Specifically things like Firefox and Thunderbird.  It seems like I lose the ability to interact with the application.
[06:39] <bsdfreak> Running Xubuntu 11.10/x64 here.
[06:40] <pleia2> by default you can't alt+tab between applications running on different virtual desktops
[06:41] <bsdfreak> It also happens when I switch desktops using the workspace switcher.
[06:41] <bsdfreak> Then I have to minimize and maximize the window by clicking on the tray to regain control.
[06:41] <pleia2> ah, looks like there is a setting to enable tabbing through everything
[06:42] <pleia2> sounds like a bug
[06:52] <bsdfreak> Hmm.
[06:53] <bsdfreak> Well, is there a way to use the development/beta release of Xfce?
[06:54] <pleia2> you can give the beta1 of xubuntu 12.04 a try and see if the bug still occurs (perhaps via a livecd since it's still in beta :))
[06:55] <pleia2> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/precise/beta-1/
[06:55] <pleia2> if the bug still exists there you can report it and there is a chance it'll get fixed by release
[07:05] <bsdfreak> Okay, thanks.
[07:06] <bsdfreak> I'll do that after I sort out my kubuntu issues on another laptop.  :-P
[12:11] <Draconicus> GENTLEMEN
[12:12] <Draconicus> I have a bit of a pickle.      Y'see, Compiz is working great in Unity and GNOME 3. It is NOT working in Xfce. The strangest part is that it WAS working until recently, and for the life of me I cannot figure out what I broke.
[12:12] <Draconicus> 11.10, recently upgraded from 10.10, then 11.04. Went two versions up, sequentially via update manager. I dont' necessarily use Xubuntu as a whole so much as I use Xfce on Ubuntu 11.10. Close enough, right?
[12:14] <Draconicus> Now then, the lightdm Xfce session simply launches "startxfce4", while GNOME's entry leads to the gnome-sesssion file that does some fancy stuff.
[12:14] <Draconicus> What's missing here?
[12:47] <ochosi> Draconicus: i'm not sure i get what your problem is. compiz isn't working in the xfce-session?
[12:49] <Draconicus> ochosi: Correct. "compiz --replace" just hangs. It works in Unity and GNOME3 though.
[12:49] <ochosi> have you tried from terminal?
[12:49] <ochosi> (for the output)
[12:49] <Draconicus> Of course.
[12:49] <ochosi> so no output? :p
[12:50] <Draconicus> It just hangs after "Initializing core options...done"
[12:50] <Draconicus> It keeps going in Unity or GNOME3
[12:51] <Draconicus> In Xfce or anything that doesn't pre-launch with Compiz as a prerequisite from lightdm, it stops dead.
[12:51] <ochosi> have you checked that gnome-services are started in the xfce-session?
[12:52] <Draconicus> Must they be? I didn't realize. Where should I look?
[12:52] <Draconicus> I'm in the Xfce4 session settings now
[12:52] <Draconicus> They were disabled. Hmm.
[12:53] <Draconicus> The weirdest thing is that I have no idea how that could have happened. I hadn't even opened that window since the upgrade, and Compiz was working up until it mysteriously didn't.
[13:02] <Draconicus> Thanks for the help, ochosi. I'll try that now.
[13:03] <ochosi> Draconicus: sorry, you sometimes have to highlight me
[13:05] <nx7400> hi all
[13:07] <nx7400> can anyone tell me where to adjust the powersave value for the hard drive?
[13:08] <nx7400> I tried to adjust the -B value in /etc/hdparm.conf
[13:08] <nx7400> but it seems to get overwritten when the power state (connected AC or on mattery) changes
[13:09] <nx7400> I always end up with a value of 127, which makes my drive spin down after a few seconds
[13:09] <nx7400> in the long run, this is going to kill my drive
[15:10] <Lachezar> Greetings all.
[15:11] <Lachezar> Is launchpad a good place to submit error reports for XFCE pieces (xfc4-goodies in particular).
[15:12] <Sysi> they should get to upstream if needed, but xfce has own bugzilla too
[15:13] <Lachezar> I found out, that I can use /etc/default/keyboard to add special options to the keyboard. However I found out that doing so does not yield the same results as with «setxkbmap -option ...». Any help?
[15:13] <Lachezar> Sysi: Thanks. I know that they have their own issue tracking system, but I try to avoid additional registrations when possible.
[15:14] <Marzata> Lachezar: you haven't contacted the author, have you?
[15:16] <Lachezar> Marzata: No, I haven't... Most of the time I try to reach a developer directly I get scholded (rightfully so!), and forwarded to the project's publi issues tracker, wiki, mailing list or newsgroup.
[15:17] <Marzata> Lachezar: heh
[16:01] <utz> utz
[18:22] <donno> hello!
[18:25] <donno> can someone help me? I am very new in unix OS and I try to get some photos from my digital camera. I managed to make it detect my camera, but nothing seems to happen after.
[18:26] <pleia2> donno: are you trying to import them into an application, or just open them with a file manager?
[18:27] <donno> tried both but could not get anywhere
[18:27] <pleia2> are you getting some kind of error when you try?
[18:28] <donno> the software installed seems that it can not detect my camera
[18:29] <pleia2> what was the "it" you made detect your camera in the comment above?
[18:29] <donno> rapid photo downloader and gThumb
[18:29] <donno> in removable drives and media settings
[18:30] <pleia2> if it's in removable drives you should just be able to doubleclick on it and bring it up in a file manager
[18:30] <pleia2> I use shotwell, which has pretty good support for cameras
[18:33] <donno> I'm quite at the very first real discovery of the Linux and I have already deleted my W7 for xubuntu
[18:34] <donno> I have tons to learn
[19:07] <newname> Hello
[19:10] <newname> How do you identify a (Unkown program) in the session startup list?
[20:23] <pjotter> Hi all. I installed Skype in Xubuntu 11.10. But when I get an incoming call, I don't see any notification popup. Does anybody know how to fix this?
[20:33] <gzy> hi, could someone help me with a xubuntu pxe install? I copied the netboot directory out of a xubuntu 11.10 alternative iso, but i'm having trouble configuring dnsmasq to serve it.
[20:35] <gzy> i can boot, but get a pxelinux.0 not found msg (with a path that matches the path i'm serving it out of)