[03:35] <izzaboo> Hello. This an okay place to ask Qs about pcman file manager?
[05:12] <marcelC> hello!
[05:14] <marcelC> Why lubuntu iso has the aproximate xubuntu iso size? Isn't Lxde lighter or dose it have some extra applications?
[05:14] <KM0201> lxde might be lighter, it doesn't really mean the ISO is going to be smaller.
[05:15] <marcelC> hmm, why?
[05:15] <marcelC> is something related to squasfs / iso compresion?
[05:16] <KM0201> because it's still lubuntu, is still ubuntu underneath, and ubuntu in general, is bloated (compared to a lot of other linux distros)
[05:16] <KM0201> the speed you gain is due to the fact LXDE doesn't have the memory requirements, CPU usage requirements, etc.. that Gnome, Unity, KDE< etc.. have
[05:17] <KM0201> none of that is relative to the size of an ISO
[05:18] <marcelC> i've never used lxde, i am curious if it will gonna lose some functionality over xfce
[05:18] <marcelC> i mean is like fluxbox when you wish to change the wallpaper?
[05:19] <KM0201> no, it's much better than fluxbox
[05:20] <marcelC> okay, i'll give it a try
[05:22] <KM0201> frankly, its better than xfce as well, but thats my opinion
[05:50] <marcelC> I have found this: Lubuntu 11.10 658 MB Packages -> 1191, Xubuntu 11.10 677 MB Packages -> 1232
[05:51] <KM0201> marcelC: again, totally irrelevant
[05:51] <KM0201> you're comparing the size/number of packages on an ISO, to decide which is lighter... that's just not a logical conclusion
[05:52] <marcelC> yes, I am making a multi boot dvd
[05:52] <KM0201> marcelC: the minimal install CD for Ubuntu, only has about 20min worth of data, when your done installing, do you have a lighter system?
[05:52] <KM0201> *20mb
[05:52] <marcelC> and I choose some small distro with a lot of softwares
[05:52] <KM0201> well, *buntu's arent it for that
[05:53] <KM0201> like i said, the *buntu's are all fairly bloated
[05:53] <KM0201> not saying you can't make it work
[06:11] <Tm_T> morning
[08:25] <cloudy_nz> hi, can anyone recommend a good IDE or editor for Lubuntu?
[08:32] <Marzata> hi nz
[08:32] <Marzata> editor?
[08:34] <cloudy_nz> text editor for programming
[08:45] <Marzata> vi
[09:17] <iceroot> vim instead of vi
[09:24] <Marzata> both are visual
[09:25] <cloudy_nz> I am trying geany and gedit
[09:31] <Myrtti> geany is nice
[13:04] <jozefk> hello, is there some way to have lubuntu booted from CD (copy to RAM) and to save all changes during work to file on memory stick?
[13:14] <Marzata> jozefk: yes
[13:17] <jozefk> do you have some link with instructions?
[13:31] <Marzata> use Startup Disk Creator with extra space
[13:32] <Marzata> or another option will be to install it on the stick, but you will need min. 8 GB one
[13:33] <KM0201> Marzata: i don't think startup disk will work like that (ie, save changes to a USB).. also, you also have to have a machine that will boot USB.. i'm assuming since he's trying this, a persistent install is out of the question.
[13:33] <jozefk> I don't want to install it on stick. I want to boot it from CD and load it to RAM. and then to install new apps and change settings and to have all those apps and changes saved to file on stick which Lubuntu should read on next boot
[13:34] <KM0201> i don't think thats possible, at least i've never heard of it.
[13:35] <jozefk> I never heard it's possible with Lubuntu but some distros are doing this by default.
[13:58] <pmatulis> possible to start applications (say 'screen') and have the window show up on a certain monitor and with specific geometry?
[13:59] <pmatulis> s/screen/terminator
[14:05] <BenHur> hi, i read some articles about xubuntu vs lubuntu and it seems that the main difference is the RAM consumption (where lubuntu is better). will that difference make an inpact on running big programs like firefox? i want to install a slim ubuntu flavour on my old p4 computer and i was wondering if the ram consumption will make a difference or if the cpu will be the bottle neck
[15:00] <skrite> hey all
[15:17] <vasilevich> 	i need help configuriing my network interface like this: I have three network adapters: WLAN0 ETH0 ETH1 i would like to recieve internet from WLAN0 and share it to ETH0 or ETH1 can someone please give me the right configuration for /etc/network/interfaces
[15:27] <skrite> vasilevich, i think it will take more than just configuring in /network/interfaces. look at iptables
[15:28] <skrite> vasilevich, also, check out a program called firestarter. It is a firewall program, but also handles network sharing... been a while since i used it, but it was pretty smooth when i did.
[15:29] <vasilevich> it always fails to lock the adapter
[16:15] <bananapie> what package contains the ozone3 theme for lxde ?
[16:19] <Marzata> some Openbox stuff
[16:21] <Marzata> vasilevich: you don't need any configuration. just do it with the newtork applet.
[16:30] <hylian> what is the difference between lubuntu, and lubuntu netbook?
[16:35] <hylian> what is the difference between lubuntu, and lubuntu netbook?
[16:36]  * hylian looks at all the afk zombies, and screams! Hello?!?
[16:37] <hylian> why do people just sit here... how very annoying. either you are here and able to chat, or you are offline. please don't be afk zombies
[16:37] <hylian> hello?
[16:39] <Unit193> hylian: You really don't need to repeat, just wait.  The difference is one has a normal desktop, while the other has basically everything on the deesktop but in order of names and in different tabs for different types.
[16:40] <Marzata> dome ppl even are at work
[16:49] <hylian> Unit193, thanks. but I still don't get it
[16:50] <hylian> Marzata, /they make or build domes? or where you trying to say they are dumb? or dum? (there is a difference)
[16:52] <Marzata> hylian: meant some, sorry.
[16:53] <hylian> Unit193, when i use the netbook edition, i get the same thing as regular, minus the pretty blue default background. no other diffreences.
[16:53] <Unit193> What version?
[16:54] <hylian> Marzata, ahh, i see. I still think you should either be here, or not. I enter a chat room thinking i have someone to work things out with or sound ideas off of, onnly to find there is no one, because they are all logged in, but are afk zombies... they shouldn't show up as here then.
[16:54] <hylian> Unit193, the latest one from ubuntu 11.10. installed it this morning.
[16:58] <Unit193> Bug 875991
[16:59] <hylian> Unit193, was that aimed at my question, because it seems not to apply at all...
[17:00] <Unit193> It's the reason.
[17:01] <hylian> Unit193, ohh, i get it. lxdm sees the name "lubuntu netbook" and has a fit. thanks!
[17:02] <hylian> i know you guys aren't probably connected with the lxde team, but if there is one negative i've seen, it's their logo, which is imho, but ugly. other than that, it runs very well. ;)
[17:03] <hylian> Marzata, too bad, I would have liked to pick your brain about how they construct domes.
[17:03] <hylian> bye all!
[17:19] <Da|Mummy> i have done something seriously wrong with my audio, and have no idea how to get it back
[17:23] <KM0201> what did you do?
[17:23] <wxl> let's start out with the obvious: did you restart, Da|Mummy ?
[17:24] <wxl> it's a quick and cheesy way to solve your problems but it usually works without requiring a knowledge of sound servers
[17:24] <Da|Mummy> i just restarted
[17:24] <wxl> …and… ?
[17:25] <Da|Mummy> thats when everything went wrong i guess
[17:25] <Da|Mummy> i was messing about with oss and pulse before
[17:27] <wxl> yikes, both huh?
[17:27] <wxl> what's your symptoms?
[17:27] <Da|Mummy> no sound coming out of usb dac and regular headphone jack...
[17:29] <wxl> nevermind the usb dac, what about the native sound set up?
[17:32] <Da|Mummy> not getting anything from there either
[17:46] <milen8204> how can I make a starter in Lubuntu ?
[17:48] <KM0201> a starter what?
[17:54] <KM0201> milen8204: a starter what?
[17:54] <milen8204> xchat
[17:54] <KM0201> that still doesn't make any sense.. what do you mean " a starter"
[17:55] <KM0201> you mean a link on your desktop?
[17:55] <milen8204> like a short cut
[17:56] <KM0201> install xchat   then go to menu/internet/... right click "xchat" and choose "Add to Desktop"
[17:56] <milen8204> in Ubuntu 9.10 you could make one whit right mouse click on 6te desktop
[17:56] <milen8204> KM0201, ok but I need anything else
[17:57] <Da|Mummy> no
[17:57] <KM0201> no, just right clik the item in your menu, choose add to desktopp, and thats it.
[17:57] <milen8204> I want my xchat to start whit command LANG=en:bg xchat :D
[17:58] <milen8204> becouse that way spelling works
[17:58] <KM0201> maybe it's a language barrier, cuz what you just said made no sense
[17:58] <milen8204> if i run xchat just whit xchat spelling does not work
[17:59] <milen8204> If I write in a terminal LANG=en:bg exchat my English spelling works now it do not
[18:00] <KM0201> ok
[18:00] <KM0201> did you add the icon to your desktop?
[18:00] <milen8204> yes
[18:00] <milen8204> I did
[18:00] <KM0201> right click the icon on your desktop, and choose "leafpad"
[18:01] <KM0201> thats gonna open up a configuration w/ a bunch of stuff
[18:01] <KM0201> scroll down to where it says  "Exec=xchat"  and put whatever command you want there... after Exec=
[18:01] <milen8204> iyes i see it
[18:01] <KM0201> then close xchat, and restart it by clicking the desktop link, and see if that works
[18:01] <milen8204> I tried that way but didnt start at all
[18:02] <KM0201> hold on, what exactly do you put in a terminal to start w/ the language change?
[18:02] <KM0201> put it exactly here.
[18:10] <milen8204> KM0201 I write in a terminal  LANG=en:bg xchat
[18:10] <KM0201> ok, hang on
[18:11] <KM0201> are you getting no such file or directory?
[18:12] <milen8204> no
[18:12] <KM0201> whats the error you get?
[18:12] <milen8204> (process:2688): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.
[18:12] <milen8204> 	Using the fallback 'C' locale.
[18:12] <KM0201> thats what you get in command line...
[18:12] <Unit193> en-bg
[18:12] <milen8204> yes
[18:12] <KM0201> i'm talking about when you click the icon
[18:13] <milen8204> ohh :D
[18:13] <milen8204> sorry didnt understand well
[18:13] <KM0201> np
[18:13] <milen8204> yes i get masage nos such process
[18:13] <KM0201> ok, hold on a sec
[18:13] <milen8204> no such process
[18:13] <milen8204> Unit193, what did you mean whit en-bg
[18:14] <KM0201> hmm, theres gotta be an easy way to do that
[18:14] <Unit193> The syntax, once you get the right locale, should be more of    export LANG=en_US.UTF-8; xchat
[18:15] <KM0201> milen8204: i would ask in #xchat   i bet there's a way to set that to be "auto"
[18:15] <milen8204> :D I have asked there but no one response
[18:15] <KM0201> hmm
[18:16] <Unit193> export LANG=en_GB.UTF8; leafpad  worked for me.
[18:16] <milen8204> ok I will be glad to have English spellcheker but to start whit xchat starting
[18:17] <milen8204> Unit193, i will try whit  export LANG=bg_BG.UTF8;
[18:18] <Unit193> What language are you going for? locale -a  will list ones installed.
[18:19] <milen8204> oke
[18:19] <milen8204> wow
[18:19] <milen8204> i have tons
[18:19] <milen8204> I will flood the chanel if iprint
[18:20] <Unit193> Don't! Pastebinit
[18:20] <Unit193> !paste
[18:20] <milen8204> ok will pastebin
[18:20] <milen8204> it
[18:22] <milen8204> http://pastebin.com/6qQeY1aC
[18:24] <milen8204> Unit193, there is my xchat  leafpad file: http://pastebin.com/Wwd5Gqfq
[18:25] <milen8204> Should I white in it that way
[18:25] <milen8204> ?
[18:27] <Unit193> According to http://library.gnome.org/admin/system-admin-guide/stable/menustructure-desktopentry.html.en you should have just UTF-8 as that's for the encoding of the file, not what to start the program in.
[18:28] <Unit193> so  Encoding=UTF-8  would be correct.
[18:30] <milen8204> Unit193, yes it is UTF-8 i just tried to make spelling work :D
[18:32] <milen8204> my language is bg_BG.utf8 without "-"
[18:32] <Unit193> http://toxin.jottit.com/xchat_spell_checking#04 Never used xchat really, but seems you were on the right track.
[18:32] <milen8204> could this be the problem ?
[18:33] <milen8204> Unit193, iwhen i readthat site i have tried to start xchat whit terminal command LANG=en:bg xchat
[18:34] <Unit193> So I'd *think* you would change the exec line to that.
[18:34] <milen8204> and English spellchecker works
[18:34] <milen8204> yes but did not work
[18:35] <milen8204> the error massage ist: LANG=en:bg there is no file or Directory
[18:40] <milen8204> Unit193, when i write locale LANGUAGE=(it is empty)
[18:41] <milen8204> it is that normal ?  http://pastebin.com/wD2MrZbH
[18:43] <Unit193> It'll be set to whatever you set it to, mine is different.  You should either ask in a channel that may know more about xchat, or try setting the Exec= line to    Exec=LANG=en xchat
[18:44] <milen8204> Unit193, ok thanks
[18:44] <Unit193> (For example, someone in #ubuntu should know for sure, but it is very busy) Another one to try would be   Exec=LANG=en_US.UTF8 xchat
[18:47] <milen8204> Unit193, ok thanks will try all
[18:47] <milen8204> ;)
[21:01] <miro_> can anyone propose a good mail client for lubuntu where mails can be read and writen as rich-text/html
[21:03] <miro_> or something like KDE's kontact
[21:18] <Elouin> hi
[21:18] <Elouin> i just installed lubuntu on my netbook. its running great, i just got one problem: the webcam isnt working#
[21:21] <Elouin> its an intern webcam
[21:22] <holstein> Elouin: i would double double check that its on in the bios.. i sometimes get other live CD's and test with them... i would install something like cheese and see if it "just works". i would run lspci and see if its listed there
[21:22] <holstein> other than that, you can just search around for bugs relating to that specific hardware.. maybe find something on the forums
[21:24] <Elouin> hmm it seems like it isnt listed...
[21:24] <Elouin> and i tried cheese
[21:46] <AngelForget> excuse me but you can install on amorock Lubuntu?