[01:22] !info ndiswapper [01:22] Package ndiswapper does not exist in precise [01:24] lol [01:24] i think someone is failing to update ubottu [01:25] KM0201, i am about take a wild plunge and install bsd and compile my own packages lol [01:25] thats rough [01:25] !find ndis [01:25] Found: linux-image-3.2.0-18-generic, linux-image-3.2.0-18-generic-pae, linux-image-3.2.0-18-virtual, ndisgtk, ndiswrapper-common, ndiswrapper-utils-1.9, libcgi-application-plugin-actiondispatch-perl, libtest-indistdir-perl, linux-image-3.2.0-16-lowlatency, linux-image-3.2.0-16-lowlatency-pae (and 5 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ndis&searchon=names&suite=precise§ion=all [01:26] i gave up on bsd after my trials and tribulations with freenas.... much happier w/ Linux [01:26] !info ndisgtk [01:26] ndisgtk (source: ndisgtk): graphical frontend for ndiswrapper (installation of Windows WiFi drivers). In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.5-1 (precise), package size 20 kB, installed size 864 kB (Only available for i386 amd64) [01:27] ah thats it, i didn't name the trigger properly... cuz i'd already tried that, i think i put ndiswrapper-gtk [01:28] Can it be that recent updates completely broke starting the ubuntu desktop on 12.04 or is it just me ? [01:30] MCR1, no problems here [01:31] itaylor57: Did you make the recent update which also updated compiz ? [01:32] i have done all the updates avail to date [01:33] ok thx 4 the answer - probably an incompatibility with one of my installed additions then... [01:34] STRG+F1 still works, so... [01:34] +ALT [01:36] I'm looking for anyone who is using Kubuntu 12.04 with Firefox [01:37] thats nothing.. minecraft is broken on ubuntu 12.04 [01:37] it generates an exception upon exit! zomg! [01:37] on exit is better than on startup ;) [01:37] but it doesnt if you bypass LauncherFrame (the login screen) and run the minecraft client directly [01:38] it should still be fixed though ;) [01:38] but even more annoying is the 1 year old fglrx window decorator bug [01:38] that one *really* needs to be fixed.. its getting ridiculous now [01:38] wait til you deal with bugs that haven't been fixed for 6 or more years [01:39] id just hang myself i think [01:39] yeah it is depressing [01:39] or kill the package maintainers in a murderous rage.. one of the two :p [01:39] I just closed the last dapper bugtasks... [01:40] haha [01:40] that must be the ubuntu way.. wait until the bugs get so old.. that they expire due to redundancy :p [01:40] yep [01:40] the people who reported the bugs.. are deceased.. or in a nursing home [01:40] :P [01:40] but they were teenagers when they reported them.. hehe [01:40] I closed 70ish bugs. only 1 was still a real bug [01:41] from dapper drake days? sheesh [01:41] rest were invalid, wontfix, or expired [01:41] wontfix is the best one :p [01:41] ubuntu has *thousands* of bugs that haven't been touched in years [01:42] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/770283 [01:42] Launchpad bug 770283 in fglrx-installer (Ubuntu) "[fglrx]title bar does not update on non-maximized windows" [Undecided,Confirmed] [01:42] at least this one is status confirmed [01:42] I seem to run into an inordinate number of those [01:42] and affects me and 70 other people :p [01:42] you can probably multiply that number by 100.. to work out the actual number of affected users [01:42] maybe even 1000 [01:43] basically.. anybody who wants to use unity, with proprietary amd/ati driver [01:43] which is probably about 20-30% of all ubuntu users [01:43] what's the issue with unity and ati drivers? [01:43] the window titles dont get updated [01:43] so every window looks like it has focus.. or doesnt [01:44] and when the title updates.. eg.. path.. filename of editor etc [01:44] does it also cause problems with color rendering in the title bars? I think I saw that. [01:44] yes.. the mouseover the controls doesnt work.. because thats part of the window title [01:45] fortunately the radeon driver doesn't exhibit this problem.. but the radeon driver also sucks at playing minecraft [01:45] My title bars were all screwed up before I switched to Kubuntu the other day. Now I have a whole new set of problems with Kubuntu. [01:45] are you using fglrx? [01:45] yes [01:45] yeah.. when gnome 3 was first released, it didnt work with fglrx at all [01:45] it's OK in Kubuntu [01:46] yeah apparently kwin is the least buggy... i wouldnt know, i use unity2d now [01:46] its hard to engage compiz/unity devs in resolving this issue [01:46] it seems like getting support for Kubuntu is going to be much more difficult than for Ubuntu... [01:47] because they're all nvidia / intel / radeon driver fanbois.. and wont touch fglrx with a 50 foot pole [01:47] i'd just forget about it entirely [01:47] if you want to persist with KDE, discuss it with the upstream developers [01:48] ive been trying to engage with compiz devs regarding fglrx.. but because im using ubuntu.. they dont really want to know about it [01:50] what's difference in radeon and fglrx? [01:51] the free driver lacks some features.. such as hardware video acceleration [01:52] the proprietary driver in general, performs better with 3d games.. not that there are many [01:52] it also has the catalyst control centre which allows you to customise more options [01:52] fglrx is proprietary. so what is the radeon driver? I have never seen a radeon driver by that name for linux [01:53] it is open source.. and to be quite honest, has significantly caught up in functionality and performance to the proprietary driver [01:53] I have the amdcccle with the fglrx driver [01:53] right.. the free driver obviously doesn't have that.. but its perfectly adequate for running compiz [01:53] and is even capable of running some high end 3d applications.. such as the unigine demo [01:54] so you are calling the free driver "radeon"? Is that right? I'm just confused on the naming. All I know is that the fglrx driver is proprietary [01:54] right.. the free driver is called "radeon" [01:54] ok [01:54] confusingly.. thats not the only one.. theres also a generic vesa driver, and some obsolete ones [01:55] for me, the free driver won't save my multi-monitor settings. No way to save any monitor settings. So I had to go to the proprietary driver. [01:55] i *think* the latest radeon driver has support for hdmi audio.. but that may require very recent kernel version to work properly [01:56] also, with the free driver, my monitors won't wake up after sleeping all night. [01:56] right, this is the problem.. if some of this missing functionality were implemented into the free driver.. then the proprietary driver would no longer be necessary.. everyones wet dream [01:56] then we could just mark these bugs as wontfix.. problem solved ;) [01:59] I have some bad news for you snadge: you're in that area where you'll be seeing the same issues for the next 10 years [01:59] well a lot of progress has been made with the radeon driver.. to the point where its actually a legitimate question to ask why not use it [01:59] I've been hearing that for 5 years already [02:00] about various drivers [02:00] its getting harder to defend using the proprietary driver.. especially given some of these long standing issues that are getting zero attention [02:00] if anything.. you could say that its these bugs, that have improved the free driver significantly [02:00] look at nouveau as an example.. because nvidia's drivers are more than good enough for the majority of people.. nobody cares about the free driver ;) [02:01] true [02:01] so the quality of the free and open driver, seems inversely proportional to the quality of the proprietary one.. hehe [02:02] so the solution is that nvidia should just completely screw up their proprietary drivers on linux.. to the point where they're practically unuseable ;) [02:03] or ubuntu should just stop shipping proprietary graphics drivers.. and make them extremely difficult to install :P [02:09] The radeon opensource driver is only as good as it is because AMD pays people to work on it and releases documentation. [02:09] All nvidia does to help nouveau is not sue them. [02:09] any way i can get newer version of xorg? to be specific i need xinput2. it's kind of funny that current unreleased version is already old [02:10] any ppa for 12.04 that has latest stable xorg software [02:10] ? [02:13] There is a ppa with the latest unstable xorg [02:14] xorg edgers. someone find the link please [02:14] https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa [02:16] Daekdroom: thx [02:17] soaringsky, Daekdroom: thanks for info [02:18] anyone experience a stop error when service console-setup restart is invoked [02:39] 12.04 runs on NETBOOK with Intel N2600 CPU and GMA 3600 ? [02:41] ajin: Only one way to find out :P [02:42] ajin: ubuntu runs on just about everything. how well it works is another issue :) [02:43] yes, but I want it to run on my netbook perfectly [02:43] if only I can code, i'll do the job myself [02:44] ajin: 12.04 is still very unstable [02:45] ajin: but ubuntu usually works well on netbooks [02:45] snadge, explain why ubuntu should stop shipping proprietary graphics drivers [02:47] !philosophy | bjsnider [02:47] bjsnider: freedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing [02:47] well, that's a compelling argument [02:48] bjsnider: we also cannot fix many issues with the proprietary drivers [02:49] It's better to figure out a best way to earn big money [02:49] Ubuntu would fail to provide support for a lot of hardware if we went for all-free like Debian. [02:49] Even the radeon opensource drivers need closed source components. [02:49] through open source [02:50] yes, community drivers are community maintained [02:50] Daekdroom, no but, at least they'd have their philosophy [02:50] and maintaining good video drivers is not easy [02:50] some drivers need to be closed [02:51] Yeah. The hardware has to be crafted in a way that allows fully opensource working drivers. [02:52] DRM and firmwares get in the way. [02:52] until we get rid of DRM, we cannot get rid of closed source [02:53] direct rendering manager? [02:53] Nope. [02:53] Digital Rights (something else I don't remember) [02:53] Management, perhaps. [02:53] yes [02:54] The thing is, the industry is not willing to drop DRM, so the best thing would be it working through a closed source library. [02:54] (that wouldn't be necessary for the driver to work for anything else) [02:55] how is that any better than a proprietary driver? [02:55] People would have a choice. [02:55] And it wouldn't be a driver alternative as a whole. [02:55] It'd only affect some features. [02:58] such as what? [02:58] UVD2 support for Radeon cards. [02:58] The code for the open source driver -might- never make it past legal review. [02:58] or Netflix/ hulu [02:58] what about opengl? [02:59] There is the S3TC issue.. [02:59] It's part of the OpenGL specification, and it's not free. [02:59] But it's possible to use an external library anyway. [03:00] !info libtxc-dxtn0 [03:00] Package libtxc-dxtn0 does not exist in precise [03:00] Which is not available in the repos. [03:00] !info libxdo-dev [03:00] libxdo-dev (source: xdotool): library for simulating X11 keyboard/mouse input. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:2.20110530.1-3ubuntu1 (precise), package size 74 kB, installed size 836 kB [03:02] hello, i am stuck with bug 951407, [03:02] Launchpad bug 951407 in farstream (Ubuntu Precise) "libfarstream-0.1-0 uninstallable: Conflicts: libgstfarsight0.10-0 but 0.0.31-1ubuntu3 is to be installed" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/951407 [03:02] can you help me? [03:03] fix has been released === jalcine is now known as webjadmin_ [03:04] ok, but i done apt-get update and aptitude full-upgrade, and it still conflicts [03:04] it may not have gotten to your mirror yet [03:04] User_007: wait a few hours and try again [03:04] soaringsky, yeah i am doing that for a while [03:08] i think i solved using synaptic, thanks folks! [03:57] what is the default font size [03:57] I kinda screwed around in gnometweaktool [03:57] now i forgot [04:04] Hi All, I upgraded ubuntu 11.10 to 12.04 and in the next reboot, lightdm crashed and I could not even reach tty*, any idea. My video driver is i915? [04:05] aboSamoo1: Do you have the proprietary drivers installed? [04:06] aboSamoo1: I do not think so, how can I check? lsmod shows i915 [04:07] Mylenthes: I do not think so, how can I check? lsmod shows i915 [04:08] Mylenthes: I am not logged in recovery mode, you know where can I look for errors? [04:08] So you are in unity 2d? [04:08] Mylenthes: no, i think I am using unity 3d [04:09] Mylenthes: now, I am using tty1 and irssi [04:09] in tty1 do sudo service lightdm restart [04:10] that will reset your lightdm, then on the logon screen youll see a little icon, select that and choose 2d [04:11] Mylenthes: I tried that, the problem the login screen does not show up, it seems the lightdm crashes before even giving such chance [04:11] try just. startx [04:12] dr_willis: segmentation fault [04:13] eww.. not good [04:15] dr_willis: i restarted it after upgrade and it worked fine, then suddenly crashed and never showed the login page again. I feel there is something out there makes it crash, as some config file [04:16] it would be a nasty thing to do a seg. fault [04:17] you might need to completely reinstall ubuntu [04:21] Mylenthes: could reinstalling specific packages help? [04:22] I have no clue, i shouldn't even be helping you. I just started ubuntu a week ago. [04:22] it probably would help [04:23] Mylenthes: I am using ubuntu since 2007 and I still do not know [04:25] lol [04:25] you're going to have to wait for someone else to help [04:25] wait how are you chatting right now? [04:27] Mylenthes: tty1+tmux+irssi [04:28] oh [04:29] if startx is seg faulting.. thats kind of a nasty issue. may be hard to figure out whats going on. the logs may give a clue. [04:35] dr_willis: looking at the log, I can see the backtrace XIChangeDeviceProperty, evdev_drv.so ActivateDevice, config_init, InitInput [04:39] dr_willis: I fixed the problem, by unplugging my usb headphone from the laptop!!! [04:40] dr_willis: I am able to regenerate the crash by just plygging my usb headphone again! :) [04:44] weird.. as a test. try a window manager that does not use pulse audio. see if you can narrow down the crash === jalcine is now known as webjadmin_ [05:11] who else is seeing kmplayer start up crashing kmix? [05:11] I am getting it sporadicly === samster34_ is now known as samster34 [06:38] Hello, on current precise when server fails to boot on the first try, upon reboot group timer is not set up, therefore requiring to connect the keyboard to boot. Is it intended? [06:38] i mean ubuntu-server installation === rye_ is now known as rye [09:04] hello [09:12] * bluefrog test [09:12] pouet [10:12] hi? [10:12] ?ih [10:12] ok finally someone's here :) [10:12] I have all the menus leaving the shadows on the screen instead of disappearing [10:13] no idea [10:14] asoopn: are you on the latest precise with all updates applied? [10:17] hello [10:20] ok sorry it was me with the menus [10:21] so I enjoy the view of the screen filled with rectangles all the time [10:21] afikul: hey here, what's wrong ? [10:21] also left mouse button occasionally stops working with only unity --reset helping [10:21] hi, all the menus leave a trace instead of disappearing [10:21] afikul: are you up to date with updates ? [10:21] yeah [10:22] sudo apt-get dist-upgrade too ? [10:22] yup [10:22] tryed resetting unity ? [10:22] The following packages have been kept back: ia32-libs-multiarch:i386 [10:22] terminal shutdown command not completely power down but graphical shutdown works [10:22] anyone? [10:22] scriptwarlock: sometimes happens to me.. [10:23] I reset unity all the time - it helps but I can't do it every minute [10:23] afikul: tryed reset compiz ? [10:23] glosoli, so what you do [10:23] I tried unity ppa but it produces dependency hell [10:23] scriptwarlock: hm, somehow it magically fixed by the latest updates, migh also be video drivers fault, are you running latest VGA drivers ? [10:23] not sure how to reset compiz, but that's probably session-specific too... [10:23] afikul: nah :) [10:24] wait [10:24] if you can [10:24] will try to find smth [10:24] glosoli, well this is not only for 12.04 but also for my 11.10 [10:24] glosoli, be right back dinner [10:24] scriptwarlock: ye ye same for me was hmm, tryed checking in launchpad if there is a bug reported ? [10:25] afikul: rm -rf ~/.compiz-1/ then rm -rf ~/.config/compiz-1/ [10:27] didnt help [10:27] that is, if unity --reset is enough [10:27] afikul: well it might :) [10:27] not a reboot/logout [10:27] you will need to reboot [10:28] after executing these ones :) [10:28] ok brb [10:30] still the same problem [10:31] afkrna: you ever use CompizConfig-settings manager ? [10:31] I tried removing stuff after getting the problem for the 1st time [10:31] now it's not available [10:33] i.e. yeah I've had some custom transparency/blurring things set up on 11.10 [10:33] where are the good old days of 8.04 with a one huge switch for all the fancy compiz stuff... [10:35] afkrna: Hmm, what drivers are you using ? [10:35] for vga [10:35] standard intel stuff [10:38] afkrna: try reporting a bug :) [10:39] how do I turn off compiz "features"? [10:39] i.e. the fancy alttab thing which is f'n dumb? [10:39] compizconfig-settings-manager [10:40] I dont have ccsm now [10:40] otherwise there is some terminal commands which I am not familiar with [10:40] wtf they changed the name of ccsm =\ [10:41] I don't think so ;D [10:46] <3 xorg-edgers ;) [11:29] Since the last update I am missing basically the whole GUI. [11:29] The mousecursor is visible first, then it disappears and everything turns black... [11:30] Ubuntu continues to load and act like everything is normal... [11:30] STRG+ALT+F1 works [11:30] so I got a console at least [11:30] What can I do to find out what is causing this weird bug ? [11:31] I killed 2 systems already... - it is quite frustrating [11:32] MCR1: 12.04 is not final so be frustaed when something gets killed shows that 12.04 is not what you want at the moment [11:33] doubt anyone really wants 11.10 either .. >:) [11:33] doesnt matter, 12.04 is ONLY for testing at the moment [11:35] iceroot: I am used to fixing stuff myself, and I know that 12.04 is beta. [11:36] iceroot: I did check that the upgrade did not remove any package & really did not expect a black-screen-of-death after updating... [11:36] MCR1: start lightdm by hand and look if there is usefull output [11:36] MCR1: move the xorg.conf [11:37] have a look at /var/log/syslog [11:37] iceroot: very useful tips - will try... - thanx [11:37] iceroot: will report here... [11:38] iceroot: maybe I should investigate these files with another system to have some GUI ;) [11:39] no need for a gui :) [11:39] ctrl-alt-f1.. nano ftw [11:39] zsh + screen + vim is all a system needs :) [11:39] MCR1: some people favor "mc" for that kind of exploratory task [11:40] mc + byubu is kinda pop :) [11:41] Chipaca, iceroot, crizzy: ok, you got me. I even like git development with a GUI, so I use git-cola and qgit - but I will make an exception this time ;) [11:42] MCR1: i'm not suggesting you keep on using these things after you've deborked your system :) [11:43] *I* use them quite often, but, to each his own, yadda yadda [11:43] I do not want to get back to the time where mouses were science-fiction ;) - I used nc back in those days... [11:58] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libxxf86dga/+bug/953960 :/ this is puzzling one [11:58] Launchpad bug 953960 in libxxf86dga (Ubuntu) "Mouse scrolling works randomly with games using DGA for mouseinput" [Undecided,New] [11:58] ok, in the syslog I found: hybrid-gfx main process terminated with status 127 [11:58] What does that mean ? [11:59] 127 = "command not found" [12:14] xorg.conf in /etc/X11 is missing - shouldn't it be there ? [12:18] are you using the open source drivers? [12:18] yes. intel on-board gfx GMA 4500HD. [12:19] git it fixed ! [12:19] *got [12:19] the update somehow deleted xorg.conf [12:19] strange... [12:19] but fixed. [12:19] :) [12:19] finally [12:19] Hmm, if Ive got two connections - WiFi and GSM, at the same time, will Ubuntu prefer wifi for tran sfering data? [12:20] ironhalik: no [12:20] ironhalik: it will prefer the connection you established first [12:20] oh, ok, thanx [12:20] I am now 14 hours into the upgrade process ( 10.04 lts to 12.04 lts beta ). [12:20] and btw, is there a way to send and recieve USSD codes over the GSM connections? [12:21] about 20 minutes after I went to bed, it said "remove obselete packages?", so all night it did nothing. Seriously, these are the kind of questions that should be asked at the beginning of the upgrade process. === jalcine is now known as webjadmin_ [12:22] bananapie: the upgrade process needs to make some work before it will know which questions to ask [12:23] you can force 'assume yes' for apt, but its not always a good idea [12:23] idd [12:23] it just calculated all dependencies, and it does ask upfront [12:23] I agree, several times it asked if it should replaced modified configuration files. That's annoying, but understandable. [12:23] but the calculation takes a long time [12:23] aha [12:24] I don't understand the obselete packages, it told me at the beginning that I had obselete, no longer supported and replaced packages. It could have asked at that point what it should do when it gets to the obselete packages. [12:25] it also blows my mind away. It takes 20-30 minutes to install ubuntu, but 4-8 hours for an upgrade. I think my hard drive might be slower than I thought. [12:27] You know my strategy on beta versions of ubuntu ? I usually install them on my laptop in a seperate partition about 1.5 months before release, test it, open bug reports, that way when it is released, my laptop works well :D [12:27] does someone know the correct driver name for intel gfx (it is fbdev now) [12:27] ? [12:27] anyone else got [12:27] anyone else has problems with system shortcuts like alt tab, alt f4? [12:34] hey, this morning when I started my computer, neither the unity shortcut bar on the left nor the menu bar on the top started when I logged in, and I haven't been able to fix it. Any ideas? [12:36] Good morning! I'd like to report an uneventful upgrade from Oneiric to Precise! === bulldog98_ is now known as bulldog98 === cdeszaq_ is now known as cdeszaq [12:42] nice [12:46] The estimate on this upgrade is seriously wacked. Last night it said '47 minutes remaining', it stayed on '17 minutes remaining' for about 2 hours, it took 45 minutes to do '31 minutes remaining this morning',now it says '6 hours remaining' [12:46] '4 hours remaining', wow those two hours went by fast [12:50] 2 hours remaining, [12:50] is the 10.04->12.04 upgrade patch ready? [12:53] mhall119: Only one way to find out. [12:54] jpds: there are 2 ways to find out, #1: try it and see, #2: ask someone who has done #1 [12:54] hello. On my laptop, the live CD boots up, but freezes afterthe GUI comes up. Is this something that developers will want to know? [12:55] Italian_Plumber: Have you tried another LiveCD? You might just have a corrupted image. [12:56] That's a good idea. Or, can I do a "check this CD for defects"? Same thing, or no? [12:56] Italian_Plumber: also, for me it can take up tou couple of minutes before it starts doing things, after hitting the 'try ubuntu' or 'install' [12:56] Italian_Plumber: that should do the same [12:57] I chose the option on startup that said "Try ubuntu"... [12:57] ok I'll check it then. [12:57] and wait a bit longer [12:57] bbl === webjadmin_ is now known as jalcine [13:09] no defects -- I'm trying a different computer [13:10] ok - still buggy [13:10] now Unity says my Intel GMA 4500 HD does not support Unity 3d anymore :P [13:17] I just finished upgrading to 12.04 LTS, it did not go very smoothly, so I am going to reinstall from cd [13:17] should i use the daily build or the beta build ? [13:17] bananapie: you can always install the beta build and then just updating as usual [13:17] ok [13:19] does someone here have a working xorg.conf for intel onboard gfx (Intel GMA HD 3500/4500 prefered) - I cannot find one anywhere... [13:19] ? [13:19] Why did the update delete it in the first place ? [13:19] hi, i installed beta1 and latest updates. I have onboard sound and an extra soundcard. But from the extra soundcard only the S/PDIF output is visible, and not normal analog output. the card's alsa driver is loaded. what may be wrong? [13:21] the analog output is also present in /proc/asound/... [13:22] hey, this morning when I started my computer, neither the unity shortcut bar on the left nor the menu bar on the top started when I logged in, and I haven't been able to fix it. Any ideas? [13:23] quantumlemur: well there was an update to Unity and Compiz, both of which are responsible [13:23] that's wierd [13:25] krnekhelesh, so are you saying I should just wait for it to be updated again and fixed? [13:25] quantumlemur: no...have you tried resetting unity ? [13:25] krnekhelesh, resetting it how? [13:25] quantumlemur: do you have intel gfx ? [13:25] MCR1, yes [13:26] quantumlemur: go to the ubuntu-unity channel, someother person has exactly the same issue as you [13:26] he just posted few seconds back [13:26] quantumlemur: then probably your xorg.conf got deleted, like happened to me... [13:26] I killed 2 systems [13:30] omg, syslog says: [pulseaudio] alsa-mixer.c: Volume element Master has 8 channels. That's too much! I can't handle that! ... i mean wtf? === bulldog98_ is now known as bulldog98 [14:49] hi, I have been using Ubuntu since 7.04, linux since 2004, and computers since 1995. I just installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS beta on my desktop here ( i am chatting from my laptop ), where are my programs ??? I only see firefox, and what's probably office programs. [14:50] How do I get gedit ? Rhythmbox ? terminal ? video player ? [14:51] I can't find anything on my computer... [14:51] Help [14:52] bananapie, press the Super (windows) key and search [14:53] @bananapie: This is unity, not gnome 2. Click the ubuntu button and search for an application, use ubuntu software center to install more. [14:53] So I have to type the name of the program I want to open ? What if I don't know the name of the application ? [14:53] bananapie, not the name. anything related to the application [14:53] bananapie, and once you find it you can drag it over [14:53] bananapie, it's no harder than trawling through menus [14:54] bananapie, try 'video player' [14:54] oooh, #fail [14:54] bug in totem === rocky_ is now known as rocky [14:56] Bug in rhythmbox, I will open a bug report [14:56] hangon [14:57] i have a console open and I have the process id of the buggy software, can you remind me the command I have toe xecute to open a ticket ? [14:57] $ sudo fdisk /dev/sda: The device presents a logical sector size that is smaller than the physical sector size. Aligning to a physical sector (or optimal I/O) size boundary is recommended, or performance may be impacted. [15:17] anything I should know about the updates this morning? It wants to remove unity, so it won't actually do the updates [15:21] I am going to try unity [15:34] synic: try to update now, I guess its an intermittent problem [15:35] k [15:39] updates are fine now [15:40] I am running unity 2D, but Xorg is still consuming 50% CPU when I do simple things such as opening firefox, or moving the firefox window ( while viewing a bug report on launchpad ). Is there a fix for this ? [15:41] is there a 'disable all effects' button for unity ? [15:42] @bananapie: does firefox have anything to do with it? (i.e. if you close ffox and open, say, totem, is Xorg still eating your CPU?) [15:42] I closed firefox [15:43] Xorg takes 40 to 60% CPU to move the 'appearance' system settings window around the screen [15:43]