=== jalcine is now known as webjadmin_ === fenris is now known as Guest47264 === jalcine is now known as webjadmin_ [05:40] God Noring. [05:40] ... [05:40] Good Morning. [06:03] Good morning [06:31] pitti: Good morning. [06:35] Bah. I don't really want to change the libxfixes soname. [06:41] pitti: Ho! [06:42] hey RAOF, how are you? [06:42] my server rebooted apparently, I might have lost a few messages [06:42] Trying to figure out how to not trigger a libxfixes transition :) [06:43] But I need to rejig the layout of a user-visible structure. Because it's wrong. [06:44] RAOF: btw, i *think* i figured out that my lightdm problems were due to a combination of racing with /etc/init/hostname.conf and not having an /etc/hostname file. i don't know exactly what happened, but i added a dummy hostname file and everything was fine [06:44] broder: Cool. [06:44] pitti: Would it be ok to break the xfixes ABI, not bump soname, and just declare a breaks: on unity? It's the only client of that ABI. [06:45] RAOF: but when that's going upstream, they most certainly want to bump the soname? [06:45] RAOF: i. e. what do you win by not bumping it? [06:46] The patches themselves don't break ABI. [06:46] Or, at least, the *final* patches don't break ABI. [06:46] The current state is that it's broken, and fixing it requires breaking abi, but it's breaking a (currently) Ubuntu-only ABI. [06:47] RAOF: ah; that sounds alright to me then; but please, if you upload it, upload unity along, to avoid breaking the archive [06:47] * RAOF shall coordinate with didrocks. [06:47] ... precise-proposed! [06:48] I can do that? [06:48] If so, hells yes! [06:48] not yet [06:48] bug 930217 is standing between us and always working archives [06:48] Launchpad bug 930217 in launchpad "Make proposed pocket useful for staging uploads" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/930217 [06:49] Bah. You tempter, you. [06:49] RAOF: want a patch that fixes that bug? all you have to do is write test cases! [06:50] (to be clear, the patch itself is dead simple) [06:51] Ah. [06:51] How about the test cases? Simple? [06:51] unknown [06:51] http://paste.ubuntu.com/881517/ is the patch, though [06:52] doesn't solve the whole bug - it won't cause -proposed uploads to get auto-accepted [06:52] but it will prevent them from getting immediately rejected === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter [07:23] good morning [07:23] didrocks: Good morning! Can I coordinate a unity upload with you today (after dinner)? [07:24] RAOF: sure! what about? [07:25] I need to break libxfixes3 abi, and unity is the only user of that abi, so rather than introduce an Ubuntu-specific soname and do a transition on the 90-odd rdepends I'd like to just rebuild unity. [07:25] RAOF: easy! yeah, let's do that after your dinner :) [07:27] Awesome. [07:28] hey didrocks [07:30] guten morgen pitti [07:38] meh, something changed the Alt key bindings again [07:38] my alt+left/right bindings are broken again in weechat [07:38] and alt+k doesn't work either any more to define a new one [07:39] pitti: we had so much issues with alt that's not surprising (5 patches as I mentionned). I didn't notice those though [07:40] I'm trying to be a full day in -2d now, do you want me to login in -3d to test? [07:40] pitti: I can just tell that alt + Num worked and alt + a as well (that's what I use all the time in weechat) [07:40] yes, those do [07:40] and indeed alt+right still seems to work [07:41] but nto my alt+left/alt+up bindings [07:41] and /key (meta-k) (press key combo for binding) doesn't work either any more [07:48] didrocks, morning [07:49] hey jibel [07:49] didrocks, with latest unity update, shortcut keys doesn't work if there is not a window already open on the workspace [07:49] pitti: care about opening bug for those? [07:49] didrocks, is there an existing bug report ? [07:49] didrocks: can do, yes [07:49] jibel: urgh, like workspace switcher? [07:50] or you mean the nautilus desktop shortcuts? [07:50] didrocks, switcher, super key, custom shortcut, ... [07:50] nautilus desktop as well [07:50] jibel: nautilus desktop never worked [07:50] I'm surprised about the other, I didn't get that at all [07:50] ok, I think I can't today be the full day in -2d, logging out, logging back in 3d [07:51] didrocks, for example right after login, no window open, CTRL+ALT+arrow doesn't work [07:52] bah, gone [07:54] jibel: I definitively can switch ws after a login without any application opened here [07:55] pitti: alt + right works here, not alt + left, confirmed? [07:55] didrocks, for example right after login, no window open, CTRL+ALT+arrow doesn't work [07:55] jibel: it does work here, I just tried that :/ [07:56] didrocks, if I open a terminal for example, it works [07:56] and it's part of the tests that people did [07:56] * didrocks boot a second machine [07:56] * jibel tries on another system [08:00] jibel: works on my netbook too [08:10] RAOF: you really made a high score bug-wise btw with breaking the launcher reveal behavior :p [08:19] didrocks: right, and alt+up doesn't work either [08:21] pitti: the weird part is that xev seems to get the event [08:21] didrocks, I'm not alone :) bug 953089 [08:21] Launchpad bug 953089 in unity "Lots of regressions after update to Unity 5.6 like not working super key or alt key functionality" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/953089 [08:21] pitti: with the modifier [08:22] didrocks: but in g-terminal, when I press alt+right, I get a "C" [08:22] I get nothing at all when I press alt+left/up [08:23] I thought previously this would print some garbage [08:23] jibel: you mean that you don't have -2d starting as well? [08:24] pitti: yeah, you're right [08:24] argh [08:24] didrocks, I didn't try 2d,broken shortcuts is my immediate problem [08:24] now I pressed F10 and Alt+F10; they don't do what they are supposed to do, but now they messed up unity completely [08:24] brb, have to restart [08:25] jibel: your HUD is assigned to alt by any chance? [08:28] didrocks, it is, shouldn't it ? but all keybindings are broken, including [08:28] unless I open a window [08:30] jibel: yeah, I was wondering if it can be linked to alt grabbing something [08:30] do you reproduce on your second machine? [08:30] I think a lot of people would have yielled before (and it would have been shown in the testing result) if it was widespread [08:30] didrocks, I disabled alt for the hud, and the only shortcut that works is a custom one to open a terminal [08:31] * jibel still waiting for his netbook to finish upgrade [08:35] yeah, i disabled the hud shrortcut because it breaks my alt shortcuts in vim, and now alt+tab doesn't work :( [08:40] pitti: there is maybe a potential fix for alt + arrows [08:41] pitti: basically a workaround in unity which has a good fix now in compiz [08:41] chrisccoulson: tapping alt should work now as expected, you can bring back the HUD [08:43] didrocks: ah, good to hear! [08:44] hmm, if the "wall sliding duration" is 0, moving windows around gets weird [08:44] didrocks, another interesting effect. I've a keybinding set to CTRL+Fn to switch to workspace n [08:45] didrocks, if firefox has focus and I press CTRL+F4 to switch to ws4, it switches to ws4 but also closes the active firefox tab [08:46] jibel: I pinged you on the upstream channel, you really should discuss it there :) [08:46] didrocks, i tried it yesterday, it still breaks my bindings in vim, even with the latest version :( [08:46] chrisccoulson: hum, what exacty is broken? alt + some keys relveal the HUD? [08:46] didrocks, i map alt+arrow to move tabs in vim, and they just do nothing with the hud enabled [08:47] chrisccoulson: see above ^ [08:47] chrisccoulson: same issue than pitti [08:47] ah, ok :) [08:47] I'm building a fix for it, hopefully [08:48] thanks [08:52] chrisccoulson: you use alt bindings in vim? that sounds evil [08:52] pitti - yeah, i just use alt+l/r to switch between tabs [08:53] and it's always worked fine until the hud stuff landed in unity ;) [08:53] pitti: btw, reminder day! [08:53] oh right! thanks [08:53] so i disabled that but then alt+tab stopped working when the hud is disabled [08:53] chrisccoulson: don't speak about alt to me ever ever again :) [08:53] lol [08:59] will unity stop 0wning more and more keys for itself? :-) [09:00] * rickspencer3 decides to change the topic [09:00] hey pitti, quick Python(y) question ... [09:01] how, generally, would I go about using Python to download a file on chinstrap? [09:01] (given that it's behind SSO?) [09:01] rickspencer3: ah, through http, not through ssh [09:02] rickspencer3: that's a good question; I tried that a while ago in apport, and it was insurmountable for me as well [09:02] insurmountable for pitti? that doesn't sound promising :( [09:02] well, let's say I gave up after half an hour [09:02] lol [09:02] I was wondering if this SSO client package might help? [09:02] I suppose it actually needs to use python-ubuntu-sso-client [09:03] but that's not something I wanted apport to depend on [09:03] fair enough [09:03] I didn't find a good way with just urllib and cookies [09:03] yeah [09:03] and we got a proper launchpadlib API for this, so I didn't need it any more [09:03] you'd probably have to open a webkit window, let the sure sign in through SSO, store the credentials, and then send them through an http request [09:04] well, i want to automatically download some bdmurray's json reports [09:04] rickspencer3: so far I didn't have to use secret files [09:04] rickspencer3: hm, is there any reason to keep them secret? [09:04] I may just ask him to put them somewhere not secret [09:04] pitti, right, not that I know of [09:04] rickspencer3: it would be much easier to mirror them to people or macquarie or so, and just use plain http [09:04] I just assumed it was more convenient for him to plop them on his chinstrap account [09:05] so, I thought if I could write a line of code or two, I wouldn't have to bother him [09:05] they should run just as well on lillypilly, and if not, we can set up rsyncing [09:05] ok [09:05] I'm basically in the process of slowly rewriting bughugger to only use his json reports [09:06] so, if the reports were accessible, my tool would be generally useful to the community, I think [09:06] using launchpad lib was just too much code to maintain, and the perf made the tool unusable [09:07] didrocks, btw, I'm dist-upgrading right now [09:07] I promise I won't complain about key bindings :) [09:08] rickspencer3: it's kind of desperating, 5 patches for alt, blocking for 2 weeks and you log in the morning and pouf [09:08] pitti: the patch didn't work :/ [09:08] * didrocks grumbles [09:08] :( [09:08] hey [09:08] didrocks, oh, this is the thing to make the hud not come up so much? [09:08] bonjour seb128 [09:08] pitti, hey, how are you? [09:09] seb128: two bugs behind you! [09:09] and just uploaded one fix [09:09] pitti, ok, time for me to find stuff to fix :p [09:09] rickspencer3: yeah, it's "working", but seems there is another regressions (but before coming to this state, 5 patches between unity and compiz had to been tested, failed, restested, failed…) [09:09] seb128: I should make you stop for a while and fix the libical FTBFS :) [09:09] pitti, it's Debian! [09:09] seb128: actually, I think it was you who requested the sync, so it falls to you anyway [09:10] indeed [09:10] grumpf, armel [09:10] fails in the test suite [09:10] and that's non-graphical, so porter box should work fine [09:10] pitti, I will have a look [09:10] right [09:10] merci [09:10] can you open a bug? :p [09:10] * seb128 hides [09:11] if you wait long enough, doko will do it for you :) [09:11] (open the bug, I mean, and complain bitterly) [09:12] ah, on a clean session, it's better [09:12] * didrocks is really puzzled with all this unitcompizeries [09:12] didrocks, what was broken? [09:12] seb128: alt + arrows on, for instance, weechat [09:13] what is alt-arrows supposed to do? [09:13] switching between channels [09:13] I personnaly use alt + number or alt + a, but pitti is using alt + arrows [09:13] ok, no a compiz keybinding then (i.e not in the wm actions) [09:13] and chrisccoulson is doing some bad stuff in vim with it [09:14] the only place where I use alt-left is firefox and it works here [09:14] yeah it's only happening in terminal apps [09:14] xev is fine, giving back the value [09:14] that's broken for me as well in firefox [09:14] pitti: really? it works here :/ [09:15] wfm in firefox [09:15] * didrocks doesn't want to know, doesn't want to understand, it's 10am and I'm already more than tired with all the pings [09:17] * rickspencer3 restarts to get shiny new unity [09:17] didrocks, for firefox bug 953783 [09:17] Launchpad bug 953783 in firefox "Alt+arrows keyboard shortcuts don't invoke Back and Forward navigation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/953783 [09:18] "It started to work again after some minutes. Perhaps it's related to a crash that has happened somewhere in the HUD department" [09:18] wth? === chaoticuk_ is now known as chaoticuk [09:22] hey capitain didrocks [09:22] hey hey rickspencer3 [09:22] it looks like my alt-tab bug is fixed! [09:22] first good news of the day! :) [09:23] didrocks, hmm, the update is working well for me so far [09:23] didrocks, are there issues that I'm supposed to be having? [09:23] phew [09:23] rickspencer3: if you use alt + right/left [09:23] works fine for me as well [09:23] but not 100% of the time [09:24] and another issue which has been reported only on 2 machines [09:24] didrocks, oh, my keybindings for workspace switching is still shift-windows-left/right [09:24] rickspencer3: did you redefine them by hand at some point? [09:24] didrocks, no [09:25] but I presume they just didn't get reset at some point [09:25] rickspencer3: migrating default really doesn't work well on compiz, you should unity --reset [09:25] yeah [09:25] didrocks, do you want me to try unity --reset? [09:25] didrocks, I'll do it if you want, but, I don't much care, tbh [09:26] rickspencer3: yes please, better you are on the standard :) [09:26] ok [09:26] doing it [09:27] didrocks, the keybinds are now changed [09:27] and seem to work fine [09:27] great :) [09:28] didrocks, the reveal of the autohide is now back to defaults, and seems to work WAAAY better [09:28] didrocks, I dunno, this seems like it was a good update for me [09:28] rickspencer3: yeah, I tweaked the upstream value but shhhhhh :) [09:29] :) [09:29] didrocks, did they update how alt-tab looks? [09:29] rickspencer3: sweet! you shouldn't get false HUD reveal as well, I hope it will work well for everyone seeing the number of trials/errors it took [09:29] rickspencer3: no, it's not ready yet [09:29] ok [09:29] * didrocks would rather than they focus on the priority bug list though [09:29] that* [09:29] indeed [09:29] didrocks, I use alt a lot for "go to ws", no hud false positive for a while here [09:29] please let's not update the alt-tab imagary [09:29] seb128: \o/ [09:30] ;-) [09:30] didrocks, seb128 the hud reveal seems to be working perfectly for me as well [09:30] indeed it helped a lot -- haven't seen the HUD since I rebooted yet [09:31] pitti: haven't seen the HUD, like, you didn't want to see it, right? :-) [09:31] I triggerred it a few time by error but it's my fault [09:31] didrocks, great job! you really rocked this update ... thanks for making it land so smoothly, though I know it wasn't a smooth road for you to get it here ;) [09:31] didrocks: right; it does work fine if I just press and release alt [09:31] I tend to put my finger on alt to switch workspaces and sometime sombody talks to me on IRC so I relax alt to reply :p [09:31] rickspencer3: was quite bumpy indeed! But thanks :-) [09:31] pitti: nice, one of the big blocker part of the past [09:32] pitti: so, I tried to restart quite a few time, I think that alt + arrows is now fixed [09:32] * didrocks wants on RAOF as he wanted to rebreak ABI and so get an unity rebuild, let's slip that in [09:32] * pitti hugs didrocks [09:32] * didrocks hugs pitti back [09:32] seb128: all that in less than 250ms? :) [09:33] didrocks, it's like my finger is over the key standing and sometime I relax a bit and hit the key by error :p [09:34] didrocks, like if you let you foot over one of the car pedals :p [09:34] seb128: isn't that forbidden when you take your driver lessons? :p [09:35] it is! [09:35] nobody gave me keyboard navigation lessons though, maybe that's the issue ;-) [09:35] you need to take again the computer driving exam! [09:35] :) [09:42] urg, pitti went on a bugs unassignment rampage ;-) [09:42] seb128: I did some cleanup, yes; we have far too many assigned to the team and can't keep up [09:43] hey didrocks the update went so well on my netbook, I'm doing my workstation now ;) [09:43] pitti, some of those are things that should be fixed for the lts, I'm not sure how to keep track of those out of team assignment though [09:44] seb128: well, feel free to assign them back; I dropped those which seemed unimportant, unrealistic, or only applied to maverick or natty [09:44] I guess milestoning with importance > high and hoping they don't get postponed because nobody looked at them [09:44] oh rats, I have KDE stuff on this 'puter :/ [09:44] rickspencer3: excellent, but you are using one monitor isn't it? (IIRC, your netbook doesn't support dual monitor or with a really bad resolution) [09:44] didrocks, right, my workstation has 2 though [09:44] pitti, I was thinking about bug #884003 for example [09:44] Launchpad bug 884003 in vino "The remote connection indicator is broken" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/884003 [09:44] seb128: there's also the rls-p-tracking tag; but as I said, feel free to assign some bugs back [09:45] seb128: ah, fine for me [09:45] rickspencer3: can you notice the compiz perf boost on it? it was quite clear on my slow laptop and netbook [09:45] but we actually need to assign it to someone, otherwise they just bitrot [09:45] didrocks, multi-mon has been working really well for me since alpha1, I'll let you know how it goes [09:45] pitti, ok, doing that, I will try to give it to dx though :p [09:45] seb128: merci [09:45] de rien [09:45] didrocks, I think I noticed a perf boost around a1 on my netbook [09:45] I didn't notice one today, but I haven't used it that much yet [09:46] ok, not particularly with that update? (compiz reduced by 51% it's CPU usage) [09:46] tbh, it wasn't *that* slow [09:46] its* [09:46] didrocks, well, I'm expecting to notice it more in battery life, tbh [09:46] which is actually more important to me [09:47] right ;) but I notice quite clearly smooth animation now on my laptop, which wasn't at all the case before (sometimes, get 4 frames for switching ws, so was seeing some "freezes" and such) [09:50] [ 3965.741882] hud-service[2180]: segfault at 0 ip 000000000040a640 sp 00007fffc648ca38 error 4 in hud-service[400000+11000] [09:50] hmm [09:51] I'll report it in a bit [09:51] pitti, was that the new version? [09:52] from this morning, yes [09:52] pitti, desrt's refactoring with gmenu support landed yesterday, I'm sure he will be happy to get bugs :p [09:52] iz desrt's bog! [09:53] seb128, I guess it's too early in Cananda to troll desrt [09:53] rickspencer3, yeah, probably ;-) [09:53] rickspencer3, but I'm sure he will read feedback when he starts working :p [09:54] rickspencer3, in fact I was half joking, he said yesterday he was interested to have it landing to get extra feedback and fix the remaining issues [09:59] pitti, desrt: could be bug #953579 which seems a frequent one [09:59] Launchpad bug 953579 in indicator-appmenu "hud-service crashed with SIGSEGV in hud_string_list_get_tail()" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/953579 [10:00] sent to LP now, will see [10:19] pitti, what did you commit for bug 953321? Did you backport the fix from upstream? [10:19] Launchpad bug 953321 in cups "lpq and lpstat output empty lines only" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/953321 [10:19] tkamppeter: yes, it works fine [10:20] tkamppeter: do you have anything else for cups? if not, I'd do an upload now to fix the RC bug in Debian [10:22] pitti, do the upload, I am waiting for a patch for the broken IPP from Mike Sweet but did not get it yet. Should be no problem if we upload again tomorrow for the IPP stuff. [10:30] sigh [10:30] i can't think of a more unproductive use of my time than refreshing a monster sized CSS patch, again :( [10:30] chrisccoulson: what do you patch? [10:31] pitti - the monochrome icons in thunderbird [10:31] RAOF: around for breaking an ABI? [10:31] chrisccoulson: and I guess it's not an option to drop them until they get accepted upstream? [10:31] pitti - http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/thunderbird/thunderbird-trunk.head/view/head:/debian/patches/theme-refresh-messenger-toolbar-icons.patch, and that's one of 3 ;) [10:31] yeah, hopefully they will land upstream soon [10:32] a lot of the theme changes already did land [10:32] that looks pretty ridiculous [10:34] pitti - yeah, it is quite ridiculous [10:34] and some people think that they're going to be doing this for firefox too ;) [10:34] chrisccoulson: is that request coming from design team? [10:35] it's the kind of change that we usually reject in the sponsoring process [10:35] and say "go upstream first" [10:37] didn't we work with andreas for the tb theme thing? [10:38] how come that didn't go upstream? [10:39] seb128, most of it has landed upstream now, it's just the icon changes are still in the review process [10:39] i should ping andreasn about that really :) [10:39] chrisccoulson, would our tb look different from the rest of the desktop without that patch? [10:39] I sort of like the monochrome icons :p [10:40] seb128, it just wouldn't have the monochrome icons [10:40] yeah, i like those too ;) [10:40] still, couldn't we just wait until they get changed upstream, instead of spending hours each time to update that patch? [10:40] or do it once at the end of the cycle [10:40] well, for tbird/ffox there is no real "end" of the cycle [10:41] pitti, well, why upstream would care about our branding? it seems like the sort of things it's hard to block on upstream for [10:41] seb128: chrisccoulson said it's almost accepted [10:41] seb128: and if it's not, it's all the more reason not to patch it [10:41] right, but it has probably been taking time because it's not a priority for them [10:41] I mean, 7000 lines of patch, to be re-done from scratch every month? [10:41] pitti, I disagree with the "let our OS looks like crap because we don't want to distro patch for branding and upstream doesn't care about our branding" [10:42] but yeah, for sure it's an issue [10:42] well, 'like crap' is certainly an overstatement [10:43] in fact having tb looking decently integrated to Ubuntu was one of the condition to take it by default in oneiric [10:43] but if that stays a distro patch, then we need a less intrusive form than http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/thunderbird/thunderbird-trunk.head/view/head:/debian/patches/theme-refresh-messenger-toolbar-icons.patch times three [10:43] but yeah, somewhat the price to pay to not use an application in our default toolkit [10:43] pitti, right, agreed on that [10:44] seb128: nice syncs [10:45] pitti, mbiel is launched on GNOME 3.4 it seems ;-) [10:55] chrisccoulson: heya [10:55] chrisccoulson: where do I find the npapi-sdk pkg-config package these days? [10:57] didrocks: Around now. [10:58] Sweetshark, it's in firefox-dev [11:09] pitti, hi [11:11] hey tkamppeter [11:13] pitti, I have the following problem: We use Ghostscript for pdftops (PostScript printers) in Precise. Ghostscript's PostScript output prints perfectly on HP and displays perfectly with Ghostscript, but it crashes Kyocera and Brother printers. Oneiric used Poppler with inferior color management. What should we do? [11:18] hm, no off-hand idea [11:18] it seems we switched between gs and poppler several times already [11:20] pitti, yes, afdter FF when there are relatively many people testing, the current method disqualifies and I switch to the other method. [11:22] pitti, perhaps I have to put a by-manufacture or by-PPD-keyword switch into the filter to keep as many printers as possible well color-managed but also as many printers as possible at least working. [11:22] tkamppeter: I thought back then we switched from gs to poppler because gs gave too many problems [11:23] tkamppeter: and you can't work around that by telling gs to emit PS level 1 or 2 only? [11:25] pitti, also a way to try. I will work out an appropriate recipe for the Kyocera and Brother users now to try. [11:46] * ritz wondering, why are our patches so ubuntu specific , wrt global menus ( liberal use of ubuntu_ in variable naming ) [11:48] pitti, new recipes for all the ideas from you and the GS devs are out in bug 951627 and bug 950713. [11:48] Launchpad bug 951627 in cups "all Kyocera network printers stopped working with cups 1.5.2" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/951627 [11:48] Launchpad bug 950713 in cups "Brother printer fails to print anything but a blank page" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/950713 === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [12:14] nice, just freed 28GB by emptying my trash [12:14] chrisccoulson, waouh, you use nautilus a lot! ;-) [12:15] chrisccoulson: FYI, you don't have to download all the pr0n locally, you can just watch it inside your firefox window [12:16] lol ;) === jalcine is now known as webjadmin_ [12:53] pitti: seems that unity-3d merged some multimonitor changed without the feature freeze excpection approved. There was no bug linked to it, but it seems that bug #950136 is the one [12:53] Launchpad bug 950136 in unity-2d "multimonitor, launcher: Provide an option to display either a single launcher or a launcher on each display in a multi-monitor environment" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/950136 [12:53] pitti: it seems that there is some g-c-c changes as well, it would have been nice if design involved platform a little bit more with it [12:56] re [12:57] tkamppeter: ah, thanks [12:57] didrocks: hm, I vaguely remember reading an UIFE about this before, but perhaps it was very similar [12:57] didrocks: or it was by mail [12:57] it seems ok to me === webjadmin_ is now known as jalcine [13:00] pitti: ok, can you acked on the bug? The g-c-c changes are still not completly defined [13:00] (and of course, -3d and -2d will again use different keys…) [13:00] erk, why? [13:00] so a lot of fun [13:00] gsettings vs. gconf? [13:00] right [13:01] and despite asking them beforehand, there is no way they use gconf… [13:01] so all the fun about concialiting the keys as I did for the other changes, listing them to not segfault if 2d is not installed… [13:01] also not sure how we can set the primary monitor and detect the nvidia case [13:02] acked [13:06] pitti, did you have any chance to test the user dialog stuff on amd64? [13:06] I didn't yet, sorry [13:06] I'm swamped in mail backlog, it's a crazy time [13:06] pitti, yeah, I noticed you were busy on bugs ;-) [13:07] I'm down from 50 to 30 in my ubuntu folder [13:07] pitti, you just made me less busy, I had that gucharmap on my list for today ;-) [13:07] bug 952612? feel free to grab if you want [13:07] Launchpad bug 952612 in gucharmap "Package @GCONFPKGS@ was not found in the pkg-config search path." [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/952612 [13:08] pitti, no, that's fine, you grabbed it, it's yours :p [13:08] I wanted to take the opportunity to merge with Debain [13:08] and sync [13:08] I just read titles daily and "flag" stuff that seem like they need to be fixed [13:08] pitti, it's all yours ;-) [13:08] ok [13:08] I'm not running out of bugs don't worry [13:08] though I'm busy valgrinding around today [13:10] I'm close to a fix for bug 868400, just waiting on Bastian's second review [13:10] Launchpad bug 868400 in gnome-settings-daemon "Synaptics touchpad stops working - two syndaemon instances running" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/868400 === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley|dinner [13:19] pitti: desktop team PPA reasonable for the testing of the NM updates? [13:19] cyphermox: yes, it is; it's the staging area for stuff that's meant to go into precise [13:19]