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* jokerdino lurks.09:44
head_victimjokerdino: not too long now09:50
jokerdinoI am mentally counting down.09:50
jokerdinoi hope it doesn't end like the last meeting. :/09:53
head_victimjokerdino: as do I09:56
elkyi'm here, that's 209:57
sagaciheh, another month to wait09:57
head_victimAsia/Oceania Meeting should be on09:57
head_victimDestine you there?09:57
elkyafk for a few though, might be back a few minutes late but i'll catch up from scrollback09:58
Destinehead_victim, yes09:58
head_victimOk that's 309:58
* amithkk appears09:58
head_victimNeed one more09:58
head_victimWe have quorum!09:58
Destinehead_victim, good!09:58
jokerdinohead_victim: wait..09:58
amithkkHey head_victim  :D09:58
jokerdinowe need 4 council members right? :D09:58
amithkkAnd Im not one :)09:59
amithkkBut I could be one ;)09:59
head_victimejat was meant to be the 4th but he just timed out09:59
czajkowskihead_victim: I can step in if there arent that many09:59
head_victimlifeless: ping :) You're the only one else in the channel10:00
head_victimczajkowski: if you could for now at least that would ensure we obtain quorum10:00
amithkk*I'm Here for the joking dino :)10:00
czajkowskihead_victim: fine will do.10:00
meetingologyMeeting started Tue Mar 13 10:00:50 2012 UTC.  The chair is head_victim. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.10:00
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head_victim#chairs elky Destine czajkowski10:01
head_victimIn case one of us dc's we can all pick up the slack10:01
head_victim#chair elky Destine czajkowski10:01
meetingologyCurrent chairs: Destine czajkowski elky head_victim10:01
amithkkI sec10:01
head_victim#voters elky Destine czajkowski head_victim10:01
meetingologyCurrent voters: Destine czajkowski elky head_victim10:01
head_victim<meetingology> Current chairs: Destine czajkowski elky head_victim10:02
head_victim#link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/AsiaOceania10:02
head_victimThat's what I meant to do, if we can all look over the applicants10:02
amithkkIts open like before right?10:02
head_victimI can't see bonepyaesone, chrisgagnon, oscalation or bodman456 though so I guess we should start with jokerdino10:02
Destinehead_victim, guess so.10:03
* jokerdino gets ready.10:03
head_victim#topic jokerdino's membership application10:03
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head_victim#link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/jokerdino10:03
head_victimjokerdino: please introduce yourself to the baord10:03
jokerdinoHi, I am Barneedhar. I am a 18 years old junior college student currently studying in Singapore.10:03
jokerdinoI am widely known as jokerdino across the Internet. This is my wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/jokerdino.10:04
jokerdinoMost of my contributions have been in the Ask Ubuntu, where I mostly do the janitorial work like tidying up the current answers and answering some of the questions myself.10:04
jokerdinoWhen I do get bored of Ask Ubuntu, I make use of bilingual skills and translate Ubuntu into Tamil.10:04
* jokerdino got excited and prepped up the whole thing beforehand.10:04
head_victimjokerdino: good to see,10:05
czajkowskijokerdino: nice wiki page :)10:05
jokerdinoczajkowski: Thanks for helping me with the presentation :)10:05
head_victimPreparation always makes our task easier10:06
czajkowskiit does10:06
czajkowskijokerdino: are you part of any locoteams where you could help get others invovled the way you are?10:06
jokerdinoI am part of the #ubuntu-tam team but since I am out of the country, I can't manually do any help right now.10:06
oscalationoscalation here, hope im not late10:07
jokerdinoBut, I do intend to help when I get back to India.10:07
head_victimoscalation: we're going through jokerdino right now we'll get to you in a minutre10:07
Destineoscalation, we can deal with yours later.10:07
oscalationhead_victim, Destine thanks10:07
czajkowskijokerdino: ok, but just keep in mind things can be done over irc to help teams.10:07
czajkowskiyou do seem to have interacted with  lots of coummities so well done for that10:08
jokerdinoczajkowski: i lurk on #ubuntu-tam all the time ready to help if they actually come around. :)10:08
Destinejokerdino, good for you.10:08
amithkkCan I ask10:08
jokerdinosay amithkk.10:09
head_victimNice to see some testimonials too10:09
amithkkDo you blog? What do you focus on blogging10:09
popeyI'd like to give a cheer for jokerdino, very friendly and helpful person both on AU and outside10:09
czajkowskipopey: thanks10:09
head_victimAs someone not overly familiar with AU, is the 4600 a high score?10:09
jokerdinohead_victim:  i am happy to have a nice community in Ask Ubuntu10:09
czajkowskihead_victim: I've no other comments or question10:09
amithkkhead_victim: For his activity period, yes10:10
jokerdinohead_victim: not to boast but that score means I am in the top 75.10:10
head_victimjokerdino: good to know :)10:10
Destinehead_victim, i have no question now.10:10
head_victimI also have no other questions, just took a bit to read most of the info10:10
jokerdinoand thanks popey !10:10
amithkkSomebody missed blogging :)10:10
head_victim#vote board members pelase vote on jokerdino's Ubuntu Membership Application10:10
meetingologyPlease vote on: board members pelase vote on jokerdino's Ubuntu Membership Application10:10
meetingologyPublic votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)10:10
jokerdinohah amithkk due to hectic study schedule, i haven't much time to blog much, but i do blog about Ubuntu on 2buntu.com10:11
czajkowski+1 great wiki page and lots of activity10:11
meetingology+1 great wiki page and lots of activity received from czajkowski10:11
meetingology+1 received from elky10:11
meetingology+1 received from Destine10:11
head_victim+1 nice documentation and interaction across a number of teams10:11
meetingology+1 nice documentation and interaction across a number of teams received from head_victim10:11
meetingologyVoting ended on: board members pelase vote on jokerdino's Ubuntu Membership Application10:11
meetingologyVotes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:010:11
meetingologyMotion carried10:11
jokerdinoThank you. I feel appreciated. :)10:12
popey\o/ congratulations jokerdino, keep up the great work.10:12
benonsoftwareWell done jokerdino10:12
head_victimjokerdino: Congratulations on becoming a Ubuntu Member!10:12
amithkkCongratz jokerdino10:12
Destinejokerdino, congrats10:12
amithkkYou are now part of the Ubuntu Members10:12
jokerdinoThank you all. :)10:12
amithkknow... back to unicorns10:12
jokerdinoI am going to copy this irclog and save it for future reference :)10:12
head_victimjokerdino: please do :)10:14
head_victim#topic oscalation 's membership application10:14
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Destinei copied mine too. jokerdino10:14
jokerdinohah, nice to know :D10:14
head_victimoscalation: you have recently applied and asked to come back, to make things easier what has changed since your last application10:15
oscalationhey head_victim and others. Im Oscalation. Ive been using ubuntu for many years. My launchpad profile can be found here https://launchpad.net/~nathan1465-5 and Wiki page here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/oscalation. I have a few testimonials. I have been active in Ubuntu Answers and Ubuntu Documentation.  I do some small Beta testing, been testing 12.04 for a while now. I enjoy using Ubuntu and helping other users online. Im slowly moving my10:16
oscalation launchpad karma points closer to my 10k goal. In the near future I hope to meet 10k karma and increase my involvement with documentation. Major changes was that I obtained a few testimonials and did a little work on my wiki page.10:16
head_victimoscalation: bear with us, just reading over the documentation10:18
elkyoscalation, did you see head_victim's question?10:18
oscalationno problem. take your time. Yes. Changes since last meeting was that I have corrected my wiki page, increased my activitys in Ubuntu answers, obtain some testimonials to account for my involvement's.10:19
elkybut you're still not using askubuntu?10:20
oscalationNo. I do not use AskUbuntu.10:20
elkywhy not?10:20
head_victimoscalation: is there any involvement in teams outside of Answers?10:20
oscalationNo. Other than updating Documentation here and there.10:21
jokerdinooscalation: we are a bunch of nice guys in ask ubuntu. :)10:21
oscalationi havent made the switch. isnt ask ubuntu = stack exchange?10:22
amithkkoscalation: You bet on that10:22
jokerdinowe will be happy to have you10:22
amithkkWe will love you there10:22
Destineoscalation, i see you participate in #ubuntu-devel, bugs and testing, do you have any involvement with these teams' activities?10:22
head_victimNot to say that Answers isn't a worthy project, I'm just trying to see if there's any involvement eslewhere.10:22
benonsoftwareoscalation: Its like a big family on Stack Exchange :P10:22
elkyoscalation, yes, it's stack exchange. it's the prefered place because it's more interactive and lets good answers essentially be showcased and easier to find for the next person with the problem10:23
oscalationno problem. my involvement with bugs and testing is nothing official, more so ive helped and talked on the mailing list before.10:23
oscalationelky, doe ask ubuntu work with ubuntu ssi10:23
Destineoscalation, i see.10:23
jokerdinooscalation: we are currently working on Ubuntu SSO, but launchpad SSO is already working.10:24
oscalationgood enough for me10:24
Destinejokerdino, advertising huh.10:24
elkyoscalation, openid with launchpad. it has it's own karma system though10:24
oscalationah dang10:24
head_victimReady to vote?10:24
elkykarma on launchpad is a huge red herring really10:25
jokerdinoDestine: No, lol. Just clearing up the doubts :D10:25
oscalationi file some bug reports on launchpad but not enough to hit my 10k mark by the end of the year10:25
czajkowskihead_victim: yes10:26
head_victim#vote board members please vote on oscalation 's Ubuntu Membership Application10:26
meetingologyPlease vote on: board members please vote on oscalation 's Ubuntu Membership Application10:26
meetingologyPublic votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)10:26
meetingology+0 received from czajkowski10:27
meetingology+0 received from Destine10:27
head_victim+0 I do believe your documentation has improved a little over the last application. I would like to see some involvement in other teams (loco, ask ubuntu, forums, etc) and a few more signed testimonials10:27
meetingology+0 I do believe your documentation has improved a little over the last application. I would like to see some involvement in other teams (loco, ask ubuntu, forums, etc) and a few more signed testimonials received from head_victim10:27
elky+0 we really would like to see significant (not token) activity outside answers10:27
meetingology+0 we really would like to see significant (not token) activity outside answers received from elky10:27
meetingologyVoting ended on: board members please vote on oscalation 's Ubuntu Membership Application10:29
meetingologyVotes for:0 Votes against:0 Abstentions:410:29
meetingologyDeadlock, casting vote may be used10:29
head_victimoscalation: I'm happy to work with you on this but I really would like to see some more involvement in more than just one team. If you're only involved in one team I'd expect to see an extreme involvement backed up by a bunch of signed testimonials from the team members.10:29
oscalationThis is getting to be a little bit much. I am involved, with ubuntu answers, it seems this doenst count even though the application process  claims to be impartial of what form or channel users contribute from.10:30
DestineAlanBell, glad to see you here.10:31
DestineAlanBell, that deadlock appears again.10:31
AlanBellhi, how can I help?10:31
elkyoscalation, you were asked last time to broaden your horizons.10:31
Destineoscalation, and to improve your testimonials.10:32
oscalationwhat your indirectly stating is that My involvement in Ubuntu Answers is hard to measure therefor not accepted. Which should be discussed and added to the application process.10:32
sagaci > #votesrequired 110:32
DestineAlanBell, when we gave 4 +0, it's deadlock...10:32
head_victimI've got to be honest, I don't know who Olivier is and only have a passing reference of who Andy is. If I had signed testimonials I could look up who they are.10:33
head_victimsagaci: yeah I should have made it +4 before :/10:33
AlanBellsagaci is right :)10:33
sagacihead_victim: shouldn't it be +110:33
sagaciyou don't need everyone to be on the crazytrain :)10:33
Destinesagaci, +1 is right.10:33
oscalationI added a testimonial from ActionParsnip as requested before, and I got more votes then i believe.10:33
oscalationive improved the requested improvements from the last meeting and obtained less votes10:34
sagacioscalation: all involvement in ubuntu is hard to measure10:34
head_victimsagaci: trying to suss that out, possible needs all 4 +1s as we only have bare minimum quorum10:34
oscalationIs there a board to dispute this vote with? Im not interested in applying again.10:34
benonsoftwareoscalation: The Community Council, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncil ?10:36
head_victimoscalation: if you're unhappy with the result please contact the community council as benonsoftware has just linked10:36
head_victimThey are the body who oversees the board.10:36
Destineoscalation, or Local Council? head_victim10:36
elkyI'm not at all impressed that membership is being treated as some kind of right.10:36
oscalationThanks. I'll shoo them a message. I'll save the discussion and post it on my wiki for other team involvements. Thanks alot.10:36
czajkowskiDestine: no not the LC!!10:36
Destineczajkowski, thank you for the correction. I am not sure about that.10:37
czajkowskiDestine: the CC is over all governance boards10:37
czajkowskiDestine: the LC is over locoteams :)10:37
* benonsoftware thinks is czajkowski on the CC?10:37
czajkowskibenonsoftware: I am10:37
* jokerdino forgot to thank czajkowski for helping out with my wiki page.10:38
jokerdinoeh, a bit too late?10:38
czajkowskijokerdino: thats ok any time10:38
Destinejokerdino, no.10:38
meetingologyNo vote in progress10:39
head_victimOk so no other applicants are around we'll end the meeting10:39
Destinehead_victim, thank you.10:39
sagaciwell done jokerdino10:39
Destinejokerdino, congrats.10:39
head_victim#Action board members to update the wiki, add jokerdino to the lp team and email results10:39
meetingologyACTION: board members to update the wiki, add jokerdino to the lp team and email results10:39
jokerdinothanks sagaci10:39
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benonsoftwareCongrats again jokerdino10:40
jokerdinothanks head_victim for the meeting.10:40
head_victimoscalation: happy to discuss further as required, we just need to end the meeting for the meeting logs10:40
jokerdinoand thanks everyone for finishing the quorum.10:40
Destineoscalation, you can stay and talk.10:40
head_victimBasically I think we've already covered what the issues are though10:40
jokerdinoi was afraid this meeting wouldn't take place :S10:40
head_victimczajkowski: thanks for stepping in, elky and Destine, cheers for being here :)10:40
oscalationissues are you want me to be more involved with anything other than ubuntu answers, correct?10:40
* jokerdino sometimes talks too much.10:40
head_victimoscalation: or show a very high level of involvement in ubuntu answers.10:41
oscalationi have a high involvement with answers. imho10:41
head_victimoscalation: ok, well it doesn't show that in the application. It shows you work on them yes, but to what degree isn't clear.10:41
oscalationmy  karma points is 7k, that to me is pretty high10:42
czajkowskioscalation: we dont look at karma scores10:42
head_victimI personally have no idea how hard karma is to achieve in answers, so that in itself isn't useful.10:42
czajkowskias they vary and can go up and down very fast10:42
czajkowskihead_victim: https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/Karma10:42
oscalationthe application process states10:43
oscalationThe idea that only technical contributions (like patches or uploads of packages) or only contributions which give rise to karma in Launchpad is incorrect.10:43
oscalationone would think this would mean that karma is accepted and used to judge ones involvement10:43
czajkowskioscalation: the meeting is over, if you still wish to take this up wth the CC please feel free to do so10:43
head_victimczajkowski: yeah but unless you're involved in an area it's hard to judge just how quickly and greatly it varies.10:44
oscalationI cant list the thousands of quesions ive answered on my wiki page10:44
Destineoscalation, but nobody really backed you up.10:44
oscalationubuntu answers, backs me up   https://answers.launchpad.net/~nathan1465-510:45
elkylaunchpad doesn't give points for correctness or anything like that, it's really inaccurate.10:45
oscalationthats why they mark questions as solved.10:45
czajkowskioscalation: no not all questions are marked solved, they are marked answered10:46
czajkowskibut not everyone goes back and marks them solved.10:46
oscalationright, which means that when I resolve a users question they mark it as solved showing some scale in my support and effectiveness10:46
oscalationThere are many different ways of contributing to Ubuntu. Contributions are valued and recognized whether you contribute to artwork, any of the LoCoTeams, documentation, providing support on the forums, the answers tracker, IRC support, bug triage, translation, development and packaging, marketing and advocacy, contributing to the wiki, or anything else10:48
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Destineoscalation, indeed.10:49
oscalationjust to confirm that I understand correctly. Your stating that 7k karma on ubuntu answer is not enough, and that I should look to help in another method/channel/team correct?10:50
Destineoscalation, karma is not everything.10:50
sagacitry spending half the time you'd usually spend on answers on a different area10:51
* jokerdino has to leave for dinner. Bye all!10:53
oscalationmy preffered location for support is in Ubuntu Answers and the application for membership seems to address the question that your chosen method of contributions is irrelevant as ". The whole community needs each other and depends on each other. Whichever way you choose to bring benefit to Ubuntu and help others is very much appreciated."10:53
oscalationDestine, karma is everything to me, and if its not good enough or excepeted then the application process page should updated to reflect that.10:54
head_victimoscalation: if you had substantial signed testimonials it may be enough10:56
Destineoscalation, then you can do something else to increase your karma.10:56
head_victimBut the testimonails on your page aren't able to be verified (no links to who wrote them) and aren't overly strong.10:56
sagacikarma can be argued as a sign of red bull and determination :)10:56
Destineoscalation, if you could ask recognizable people to come to meeting, that will be good, too.10:57
AlanBelljust doing a quick meeting test11:19
meetingologyMeeting started Tue Mar 13 11:19:59 2012 UTC.  The chair is AlanBell. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.11:19
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AlanBell#vote are deadlocks working right?11:20
meetingologyPlease vote on: are deadlocks working right?11:20
meetingologyPublic votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)11:20
AlanBell+0 maybe11:20
meetingology+0 maybe received from AlanBell11:20
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meetingologyvotes now need 1 to be passed11:20
AlanBell#vote are deadlocks just fine the way they are?11:20
meetingologyPlease vote on: are deadlocks just fine the way they are?11:20
meetingologyPublic votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)11:20
AlanBell+0 yeah, probably11:20
meetingology+0 yeah, probably received from AlanBell11:20
meetingologyVoting ended on: are deadlocks just fine the way they are?11:20
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meetingologyMotion denied11:20
AlanBell#vote so a positive totall is required now?11:20
meetingologyPlease vote on: so a positive totall is required now?11:20
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meetingology+1 received from AlanBell11:21
meetingologyVoting ended on: so a positive totall is required now?11:21
meetingologyVotes for:1 Votes against:0 Abstentions:011:21
meetingologyMotion carried11:21
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AlanBellelky: ^^11:21
head_victimAlanBell: yeah sorry I set the voters but forgot to set the votesrequired11:26
head_victimI think the contention is if it's +0 then it should be a vote failed?11:26
AlanBellwell yes, if you tell it that is what you want11:32
AlanBellnormally if the votes sum to zero a deadlock is the desired meaning11:34
head_victimAlanBell: I'll just try to remember to set votesrequired next time11:43
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s3hhuh, hm.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Meeting doesn't exist?14:59
s3hhand there is no meeting log page for last week's meeting?15:00
s3hhDaviey: ^15:00
s3hhoh wait.  utc.  meeting is in another hour isn't it15:00
Davieyhola.. currently on a call, so split attention :(16:00
s3hhroaksoax: you ran the meeting last week?16:01
roaksoaxs3hh: yeah! Just saw too that there's no meeting page16:01
roaksoaxs3hh: which appears weird to me cause I'm sure I didn't delete it16:02
Davieythe wiki seems poorly.. please use, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Meeting?rev=60116:02
s3hhroaksoax: but, are there any meeting notes?16:03
roaksoaxs3hh: yes, give me a sec to update... need to look for them16:03
s3hhah ok16:03
SpamapSDid we start yet?16:03
SpamapSI want to chair!16:03
SpamapSsorry I got distracted on my way to the meeting. ;)16:03
arosalesSpamapS: since Daviey is split between a meeting I am sure he would be glad to hand over the chair to you :-)16:04
* m_3 distracting peeps on the way to the meeting16:04
DavieySpamapS: you have 6 months of chairing :)16:04
meetingologyMeeting started Tue Mar 13 16:05:17 2012 UTC.  The chair is s3hh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.16:05
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SpamapSs3hh: who are you?16:05
s3hh#topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting16:05
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s3hhi'm in ur meetings, takin over ur agendas16:05
s3hhso, i'm looking through the irc log for the action items, hopefully i don't miss any :)16:06
s3hhadd subtopics for release-bugs/BP;s under precise/current development16:06
s3hh(believe that's SpamapS ?)16:06
s3hhguess not16:07
arosaless3hh: I think rbasak and I proposed that last week16:07
arosalesbasically to add sub-topics under precise development to include bugs and blueprints we want to discuss16:08
s3hhdid anyone volunteer to do that?16:08
s3hh(noone was assigned)_16:08
arosalesso going forward we may change the meeting template to have that.  Is that ok with the team going forward?16:08
s3hhi think, absolutely16:09
SpamapSwould be nice so we can prepare for the meeting better16:09
s3hhnew action, assign to arosales?16:09
arosaless3hh: sure, I'll take that one16:09
s3hh#action arosales: add subtopics for release-bugs/BP;s under precise/current development16:09
meetingologyACTION: arosales: add subtopics for release-bugs/BP;s under precise/current development16:09
s3hharosales: thanks16:09
s3hhok, that's it for actions that i can find in the irc log16:09
s3hh#topic Precise Development16:10
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s3hhtake it away, Daviey or arosales ...16:10
arosalesbug 92473916:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 924739 in squid3 (Ubuntu Precise) "after upgrade from oneiric to precise, previous squid config unused, cannot be used when relocated" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92473916:10
DavieySpamapS: can you iterate through them, then do WI progress?16:10
adam_garosales: ive begun working on a patch to packaging to help make the transition more obvious to users, should have something proposed here soon16:11
Davieyadam_g: great!16:11
arosalesadam_g: Thanks for continuing to chop away on that one.16:11
SpamapSbug 88398816:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 883988 in glance (Ubuntu Precise) "db migration failing when upgrading glance - trying to create existing tables" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/88398816:12
SpamapSno zul today, seems like something he'd be working on.16:12
adam_gSpamapS: and for that, ive come up with a glance patch16:12
SpamapSahh sweet16:12
adam_gjust need to do some more thorough testing this week16:12
SpamapSbug 89392616:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 893926 in eucalyptus (Ubuntu) "Contains traces of UEC" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89392616:12
SpamapSUgh, thats been open since 11.1016:12
DavieySpamapS: hoped it would be solved from a Debian sync16:12
Davieyno progress.16:13
SpamapSutlemming: I choose you!16:13
SpamapSutlemming: think you could dig through and tear out the Ubuntu branding from that package?16:13
SpamapSshould be a quick job16:13
SpamapSwhile we wait for utlemming's response..16:14
SpamapSbug 92502416:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 925024 in lxc (Ubuntu) "apparmor makes it impossible to install postgresql-common on Precise" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92502416:14
* utlemming consents16:14
SpamapSAnybody looked at that?16:14
SpamapSs3hh: got cycles to triage?16:14
s3hhsolved in a jjohansen kernel16:14
SpamapSoh awesome ok16:14
SpamapSs3hh: so perhaps the status should be In Progress ?16:14
s3hhmaybe - i'll change it16:14
s3hhheck maybe fix committed16:15
SpamapSutlemming: Thanks, please assign that bug to yourself and.. just so you know, we're all counting on you.. good luck16:15
s3hhi think it's in the kernel source16:15
s3hhjjohansen: can you confirm?16:15
SpamapSs3hh: awesome, thanks16:15
SpamapSbug 85044316:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 850443 in python-eventlet (Ubuntu) "Nova API does not listen on IPv6" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85044316:15
SpamapSDaviey: ping?16:15
jjohansens3hh: the fix isn't in precise yet, but I will be pushing out the patches today16:16
SpamapSI'm going to skip the zentyal bug as its a bigger discussion16:16
SpamapSbug 92899016:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 928990 in cloud-init (Ubuntu) "fsck / dirty filesystem on instance is death" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92899016:16
DavieySpamapS: HEY16:16
SpamapSDaviey: ^^ eventlet bug?16:16
DavieyMight be deferred16:16
SpamapSDaviey: ACK, will that be an SRU candidate?16:16
DavieySpamapS: it unblocks ipv6 on openstack16:17
SpamapSSeems like it has to be.. IPv6 will conceivably be very important over the next 5 years16:17
DavieyIf it does unblock, the no, not SRU candidate16:17
Daviey(ie, if it uncovers other issues)16:17
SpamapSsmoser: any news on that fsck bug for cloud-init ?16:17
SpamapSutlemming: maybe you've been looking at it?16:18
smoserSpamapS, no. i've not looked at it.16:18
smoserits marked 'High', but...16:18
smoserits been that way since, well, forever.16:18
smoseri'd like to have it fixed though, if someone wanted to grab it16:18
SpamapSIt sounds like a fun problem to solve actually16:18
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SpamapSI have basically no time.. but I'd be happy to assist anybody who takes it up.. so .. please somebody reading this, assign that bug to yourself and ping me and/or smoser :)16:19
SpamapSmoving on16:19
SpamapSbug 93091616:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 930916 in amavisd-new (Ubuntu) "amavis start-stop script fails to stop amavisd" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93091616:19
SpamapSlooks like a cherry pick from Debian16:20
SpamapSI'll take that.16:20
SpamapSbug 88033916:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 880339 in mysql-5.1 (Ubuntu Precise) "AppArmor profile needs update" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/88033916:20
SpamapSmysql-5.1 is being removed from precise16:21
SpamapSwill update as such, moving on16:21
SpamapSbug 90719716:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 907197 in nova (Ubuntu) "ip address can't be injected into the instance when using lxc " [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90719716:22
adam_gi think chuck was looking at that16:22
SpamapSYeah I think we'll just defer that to next week16:22
SpamapSbug 91879116:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 918791 in qemu-kvm (Ubuntu Precise) "qemu-kvm dies when using vmvga driver and unity in the guest" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/91879116:22
SpamapSs3hh: guessing thats you?16:22
justinlwserge has a patch, but I'm dubious16:22
s3hhjustinlw: why dubious?16:23
s3hhthe only response on qemu m-l has been a tested-by16:23
s3hhso i think it's going in upstream16:23
justinlwit doesn't fix the real issue.  it prevents the crash16:23
SpamapSw00t :)16:23
SpamapSjustinlw: this is not the segfault you're looking for..16:23
s3hhthe real issue is vnc can't handle negative mappings16:23
justinlwcurses.  overruled again. :-)16:23
s3hhso we hide those.16:24
SpamapSOk sounds like you guys have that one under control16:24
SpamapSbug 90188116:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 901881 in glance (Ubuntu) "nova and glance should depend on python-keystone" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90188116:24
adam_gSpamapS: still blocked on keystone's MIR, i think16:24
SpamapSsince we have so many MIR's filed, lets check in on them16:25
SpamapSbug 91286116:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 912861 in txaws (Ubuntu) "[MIR] juju, txaws, txzookeeper" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/91286116:25
SpamapSjdstrand is taking a look at that one today I believe. :)16:25
SpamapSbug 91388316:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 913883 in zookeeper (Ubuntu) "[MIR] zookeeper, netty, log4cxx" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/91388316:26
SpamapSand we got a conditional ACK on that one from jdstrand as well.. need to add a bit of documentation but its just about ready (I'm working on that)16:26
SpamapSbug 91416416:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 914164 in horizon (Ubuntu) "[MIR] horizon" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/91416416:26
SpamapSBueller? Bueller?16:27
jdstrand(I approved txzookeeper btw, looking at txaws now)16:27
SpamapSjdstrand: excellent thanks!16:27
SpamapSok horizon was Chuck's mir so we'll skip16:27
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SpamapSbug 88146416:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 881464 in keystone (Ubuntu) "[MIR] keystone" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/88146416:28
Davieyin progress.16:29
SpamapSanything to report?16:29
Davieyno, still ongoing16:29
DavieyIt's not a small task16:29
DavieyBeing a rewrite from scratch, all previos work was invalidated16:30
SpamapSDaviey: its the spice of life baby. :)16:30
SpamapSOk, so, blueprints.16:30
SpamapSI'm not familiar with that one..16:31
jdstrand(keystone has a conditional ACK for main-- but there are a lot of failing tests that might be what Daviey is referring to)16:31
DavieySpamapS: that is really deferred.. but i've been unwilling to do so.16:32
SpamapSDaviey: maybe take an action to reach out to Uzuul?16:33
SpamapSDaviey: not that any of that can be POSTPONED .. but.. any updates?16:34
DavieySpamapS: they've either been done or postponed.16:34
Davieywhere postponed == no longer relevant16:35
SpamapSSo for charm testing.. there are some merge proposals against juju that, once ACK'd , will allow moving forward with the rest of charm testing.16:35
SpamapSThings to make it easier to write the test runner16:35
SpamapSI'm afraid we may not be able to ship kvm+librados in 12.04 because ceph is not in main yet...16:36
s3hhbut agreed16:37
SpamapSWe have juju, big chunks of openstack, and then ceph .. all stacked on top of the MIR team .. so I think the first two have to take precedence.16:37
SpamapSjdstrand: anything we can do to ease the MIR team's burden?16:38
SpamapSCollaborate on defining charm use workflow between OpenStack and Ubuntu: TODO16:40
SpamapSadam_g: whats the status of that? Can we do that de-coupled from the precise release? (as in, POSTPONED) ?16:40
adam_gSpamapS: i think that will likely happen at the openstack design summit next month16:40
jamespageadam_g, agreed16:40
SpamapSok, sounds like that should stay TODO and will be sorted then16:41
adam_gSpamapS: but yeah, its not tied to the release schedule. so..16:41
SpamapSadam_g: can you add a  "Discussion pending at ODS" note or something to explain that?16:41
SpamapSI plan to work on that this week, as my reboot tests have never worked right. :(16:42
jamespageSpamapS, I had a look at that yesterday - lets talk  (its not working ATM)16:42
jamespage(I can fix it tho)16:42
SpamapS"50% of 50" ??16:42
SpamapSjamespage: Oh! you have an idea? I think its probably something simple. :)16:43
jamespageSpamapS, yep - I know what the issue is16:43
SpamapSjamespage: its just such a monstrous thing to spin up a test env (too bad its not charmed.. ;)16:43
jamespageSpamapS, meh - its not to bad16:43
SpamapSjamespage: ok, post meeting then. :)16:43
SpamapSroaksoax: the orchestra blueprint.. it seems a bit behind schedule..I see a lot of "raise MIR if needed" .. whats the status there?16:44
roaksoaxSpamapS: waiting for MaaS to MIR the rest16:45
SpamapSok cool16:45
s3hhstill holding off on that until bugs and features are in check16:46
s3hhiow, it's not subject to any freezes, so i'm keeping it for last16:47
SpamapSs3hh: roger, just poking you because it shows up on status.ubuntu.com as being a bit behind16:47
s3hhaqctually i may do a first run this week or next16:47
s3hhSpamapS: i may postpone parts of it16:47
s3hhand only do the io benchmarks this cycle16:47
SpamapSs3hh: sooner you do that, the better we know what else we don't have to postpone. :)16:47
adam_gSpamapS: the swift charm is really something i think we need done this cycle, but the rest are either nice-to-haves  or waiting on collcation/subordinates16:48
SpamapSadam_g: openstack charms look like there is a lot of opportunistic work there to do if you have spare cycles ...16:48
s3hhSpamapS: will do it today16:48
SpamapSadam_g: hazmat/bcsaller/jimbaker are sprinting this week, I expect subordinates to land as a result. :)16:49
adam_gparty time16:49
SpamapSThis one is actually looking pretty good compared to 2 weeks ago16:49
SpamapSconstraints has landed!!16:49
SpamapSAnd if you look at the In Progress bugs there, those are in review actually.16:50
SpamapSSo, huzzah, we should have it soon. :)16:50
SpamapSok we are short on time, so I'm going to move on16:51
SpamapSs3hh: thanks Mr. Chekov.. take us out.16:51
s3hhthanks SpamapS16:51
s3hh#topic Ubuntu Server Team Events16:52
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s3hhuds coming up of course16:52
arosalesm_3 @ MountainWestRuby16:52
arosalesMrch 15 - 1716:52
s3hhminor chance that i may be going to end-user l-f summit to query end users on their usage of cgroups16:52
s3hhnot sure when, hoping i can trick someone else into going16:52
arosalesSpamapS: 2 charm schools done in the past week16:53
SpamapSyesterday went quite well16:53
arosales1 webinar, and 1 in SF16:53
SpamapSwrite-up to juju@l.u.c coming :)16:53
SpamapSnot SF16:53
SpamapSSanta Clara != SF :)16:53
arosalesSanta Clara16:53
arosalesSpamapS: glad to hear it went well16:54
SpamapSits like calling New Jersey New York ;)16:54
SpamapSSanta Clara, the land of 1000 chain restaurants16:54
m_3best indian food... ever16:54
s3hhuh, sorry, i'm dragging16:55
s3hh#topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)16:55
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s3hhhggdh: hi, are you around?16:55
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s3hhmoving on,16:56
s3hh#topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)16:56
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s3hhhey smb16:56
smbHey. I have been hacking up a few changes for xen and libvirt to avoid oddities related to pxe-boot of e1000 emulation nics and the use of any other than the default emulation through libvirt (which I could use hallyn (or s3hh or whatever he is called by then) to find out whether and how this could flow back upstream) bug 94902816:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 949028 in Ubuntu "libvirt: xen: never use type=ioemu for vif definitions" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94902816:56
smbOn completely unrelated topic /me just wants to express his unamusedness with ap16:57
smbt-cacher-ng's performance in precise (but was the same in oneiric). A good deal16:57
smbof my installs fail because it looses its mind... Nothing really that would be r16:57
smbelevant here but I wanted to take the chance to rant. :)16:57
s3hh(i'll be honest i still don't understand your ipxe request, but i'll re-read it all more closely)16:57
s3hhinteresting - i use it all over the place for lxc, and haven't really noticed any probs16:57
smbs3hh, We can talk about it later too16:57
SpamapSsmb: bug #? I also am not super happy with it16:57
smbBeside of that I got nothing else.16:57
SpamapSIts fine in single threads16:57
smbSpamapS, Not yet, but I really should16:57
SpamapSwe're almost out of time.. so..16:58
s3hhanyone have questions to ask smb?16:58
s3hh#topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)16:58
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s3hhrbasak: anything?16:58
rbasakNothing to report.16:58
rbasakAny questions for me?16:58
s3hh#topic Open Discussion16:58
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SpamapSlooks like its about ready16:59
jamespageI think its almost there - just need to sort out the transition from ebox packages and its ready to upload16:59
SpamapShuats: nicely done16:59
SpamapSjamespage: you too! my hero!16:59
SpamapSFFe is granted too16:59
jamespageFFe approved and archive admin found to review - thanks tumbleweed and  Riddell16:59
s3hh#topic Announce next meeting date and time17:00
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s3hhTuesday mar 20, 16:00 UTC17:00
s3hhthanks all17:00
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Mar 13 17:00:29 2012 UTC.17:00
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arosaless3hh: thanks for charing: SpamapS thanks for running down the bugs and blueprints17:00
SpamapSs3hh: thanks.. ;)17:00
jsalisbury## This is the Ubuntu Kernel Team weekly status meeting.17:00
meetingologyMeeting started Tue Mar 13 17:00:54 2012 UTC.  The chair is jsalisbury. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.17:00
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jsalisburyRoll Call for Ubuntu Kernel Weekly Status Meeting17:01
jsalisbury[TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati)17:01
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ppisatiP/omap4: a new kernel (3.2.0-1408.11) is out - it contains a buch of CVE fixes and it has been rebased on Ubuntu-3.2.0-18.2 (vanilla 3.2.9).17:01
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury)17:01
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jsalisburyRelease metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following link:17:01
jsalisbury[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt17:01
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara)17:02
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ogasawara[LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/canonical-kernel-distro-team-ubuntu-12.04-beta-2.html17:02
ogasawara|| apw        || hardware-p-kernel-boot                || 4 work items ||17:02
ogasawara||            || hardware-p-kernel-config-review       || 1 work items ||17:02
ogasawara||            || hardware-p-kernel-delta-review        || 3 work items ||17:02
ogasawara|| ogasawara  || hardware-p-kernel-config-review       || 1 work item  ||17:02
ogasawaraIf your name is in the above table, please review your Beta-2 work items.17:02
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Blueprint: hardware-p-kernel-power-management (cking)17:02
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ckingnothing to report this week17:02
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Status: Precise Development Kernel (ogasawara)17:02
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ogasawaraWe uploaded the 3.2.0-18.29 kernel last Friday and we have just17:02
ogasawararebased master-next to upstream stable v3.2.10 (minus 1 patch which17:02
ogasawaraintroduces a build failure).  Beta-2 Freeze is next Thurs, March 22.  I17:02
ogasawaraplan to upload this Friday and hope that this will be the kernel we use17:02
ogasawarafor Beta-2.  Should any additional patches land which are deemed17:02
ogasawaranecessary for Beta-2 we would have enough time to upload again no later17:02
ogasawarathan Tues, March 20.  Any uploads after that are subject to approval by17:02
ogasawarathe release team.17:02
ogasawaraImportant upcoming dates:17:02
ogasawara * Thurs Mar 22 - Beta-2 Freeze (~1 week)17:02
ogasawara * Thurs Mar 29 - Beta-2 (~2 weeks)17:02
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Status: CVE's (apw)17:03
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apwCurrently we have 71 CVEs on our radar, two new CVEs were added this week.17:03
apwSee the CVE matrix for the current list:17:03
apw 17:03
apw[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/ALL-linux.html17:03
apw 17:03
apwIn addition to the two new CVEs one gained an additional fix which has17:03
apwalso been applied.  Overall the backlog is unchanged this week:17:03
apw 17:03
apw[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/status/cve-metrics.txt17:03
apw[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt17:03
apw 17:03
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Oneiric/Natty/Maverick/Lucid/Hardy (bjf/herton)17:03
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bjf 17:03
bjfHere is the status for the main kernels, until today (Mar. 06):17:03
bjf 17:03
bjf * Hardy    - 2.6.24-31.100 - Regression testing; A single CVE.17:03
bjf * Lucid    - 2.6.32-40.87  - Regression testing; CVEs, eCryptfs, NFSv4, block, and other misc. fixes.17:03
bjf * Maverick - 2.6.35-32.67  - Promote to -updates; A single CVE.17:03
bjf * Natty    - 2.6.38-13.57  - Security pocket review; CVEs, eCryptfs and some other fixes.17:03
bjf * Oneiric  - 3.0.0-16.29   - Verification; CVEs and 3 stable upstream releases.17:03
bjf 17:03
bjfCurrent opened tracking bugs details:17:03
bjf * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html17:03
bjf 17:03
bjfFor SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information:17:03
bjf * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html17:03
bjf 17:03
bjfFuture stable cadence cycles:17:03
bjf * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseInterlock17:03
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/)17:04
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jsalisburyThanks everyone17:04
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Mar 13 17:04:31 2012 UTC.17:04
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ckingthanks jsalisbury17:04
apwjsalisbury, thanks17:04
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