[09:44]  * jokerdino lurks.
[09:50] <head_victim> jokerdino: not too long now
[09:50] <jokerdino> I am mentally counting down.
[09:53] <jokerdino> i hope it doesn't end like the last meeting. :/
[09:56] <head_victim> jokerdino: as do I
[09:57] <elky> i'm here, that's 2
[09:57] <sagaci> heh, another month to wait
[09:57] <head_victim> Asia/Oceania Meeting should be on
[09:57] <head_victim> Destine you there?
[09:58] <elky> afk for a few though, might be back a few minutes late but i'll catch up from scrollback
[09:58] <Destine> head_victim, yes
[09:58] <head_victim> Ok that's 3
[09:58]  * amithkk appears
[09:58] <head_victim> Need one more
[09:58] <head_victim> amithkk!!!
[09:58] <head_victim> We have quorum!
[09:58] <Destine> head_victim, good!
[09:58] <jokerdino> head_victim: wait..
[09:58] <amithkk> Hey head_victim  :D
[09:58] <jokerdino> we need 4 council members right? :D
[09:59] <amithkk> And Im not one :)
[09:59] <amithkk> But I could be one ;)
[09:59] <head_victim> ejat was meant to be the 4th but he just timed out
[09:59] <czajkowski> head_victim: I can step in if there arent that many
[10:00] <amithkk> I
[10:00] <head_victim> lifeless: ping :) You're the only one else in the channel
[10:00] <head_victim> czajkowski: if you could for now at least that would ensure we obtain quorum
[10:00] <amithkk> *I'm Here for the joking dino :)
[10:00] <czajkowski> head_victim: fine will do.
[10:00] <head_victim> #startmeeting
[10:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Mar 13 10:00:50 2012 UTC.  The chair is head_victim. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[10:01] <head_victim> #chairs elky Destine czajkowski
[10:01] <head_victim> In case one of us dc's we can all pick up the slack
[10:01] <head_victim> #chair elky Destine czajkowski
[10:01] <meetingology> Current chairs: Destine czajkowski elky head_victim
[10:01] <amithkk> I sec
[10:01] <jokerdino> hmm.
[10:01] <head_victim> #voters elky Destine czajkowski head_victim
[10:01] <meetingology> Current voters: Destine czajkowski elky head_victim
[10:02] <head_victim> #link
 Current chairs: Destine czajkowski elky head_victim
[10:02] <head_victim> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/AsiaOceania
[10:02] <head_victim> That's what I meant to do, if we can all look over the applicants
[10:02] <amithkk> Its open like before right?
[10:02] <head_victim> I can't see bonepyaesone, chrisgagnon, oscalation or bodman456 though so I guess we should start with jokerdino
[10:03] <Destine> head_victim, guess so.
[10:03]  * jokerdino gets ready.
[10:03] <head_victim> #topic jokerdino's membership application
[10:03] <head_victim> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/jokerdino
[10:03] <head_victim> jokerdino: please introduce yourself to the baord
[10:03] <jokerdino> Hi, I am Barneedhar. I am a 18 years old junior college student currently studying in Singapore.
[10:04] <jokerdino> I am widely known as jokerdino across the Internet. This is my wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/jokerdino.
[10:04] <jokerdino> Most of my contributions have been in the Ask Ubuntu, where I mostly do the janitorial work like tidying up the current answers and answering some of the questions myself.
[10:04] <jokerdino> When I do get bored of Ask Ubuntu, I make use of bilingual skills and translate Ubuntu into Tamil.
[10:04]  * jokerdino got excited and prepped up the whole thing beforehand.
[10:05] <head_victim> jokerdino: good to see,
[10:05] <czajkowski> jokerdino: nice wiki page :)
[10:05] <jokerdino> czajkowski: Thanks for helping me with the presentation :)
[10:06] <head_victim> Preparation always makes our task easier
[10:06] <czajkowski> yup
[10:06] <czajkowski> it does
[10:06] <Destine> indeed
[10:06] <lalatenduM> #accept
[10:06] <czajkowski> jokerdino: are you part of any locoteams where you could help get others invovled the way you are?
[10:06] <jokerdino> I am part of the #ubuntu-tam team but since I am out of the country, I can't manually do any help right now.
[10:07] <oscalation> oscalation here, hope im not late
[10:07] <jokerdino> But, I do intend to help when I get back to India.
[10:07] <head_victim> oscalation: we're going through jokerdino right now we'll get to you in a minutre
[10:07] <Destine> oscalation, we can deal with yours later.
[10:07] <oscalation> head_victim, Destine thanks
[10:07] <czajkowski> jokerdino: ok, but just keep in mind things can be done over irc to help teams.
[10:08] <czajkowski> you do seem to have interacted with  lots of coummities so well done for that
[10:08] <jokerdino> czajkowski: i lurk on #ubuntu-tam all the time ready to help if they actually come around. :)
[10:08] <Destine> jokerdino, good for you.
[10:08] <amithkk> Can I ask
[10:09] <jokerdino> say amithkk.
[10:09] <head_victim> Nice to see some testimonials too
[10:09] <amithkk> Do you blog? What do you focus on blogging
[10:09] <popey> I'd like to give a cheer for jokerdino, very friendly and helpful person both on AU and outside
[10:09] <czajkowski> popey: thanks
[10:09] <head_victim> As someone not overly familiar with AU, is the 4600 a high score?
[10:09] <jokerdino> head_victim:  i am happy to have a nice community in Ask Ubuntu
[10:09] <czajkowski> head_victim: I've no other comments or question
[10:10] <amithkk> head_victim: For his activity period, yes
[10:10] <jokerdino> head_victim: not to boast but that score means I am in the top 75.
[10:10] <head_victim> jokerdino: good to know :)
[10:10] <Destine> head_victim, i have no question now.
[10:10] <head_victim> I also have no other questions, just took a bit to read most of the info
[10:10] <jokerdino> and thanks popey !
[10:10] <popey> np
[10:10] <amithkk> Somebody missed blogging :)
[10:10] <head_victim> #vote board members pelase vote on jokerdino's Ubuntu Membership Application
[10:10] <meetingology> Please vote on: board members pelase vote on jokerdino's Ubuntu Membership Application
[10:10] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[10:11] <jokerdino> hah amithkk due to hectic study schedule, i haven't much time to blog much, but i do blog about Ubuntu on 2buntu.com
[10:11] <czajkowski> +1 great wiki page and lots of activity
[10:11] <meetingology> +1 great wiki page and lots of activity received from czajkowski
[10:11] <elky> +1
[10:11] <meetingology> +1 received from elky
[10:11] <Destine> +1
[10:11] <meetingology> +1 received from Destine
[10:11] <head_victim> +1 nice documentation and interaction across a number of teams
[10:11] <meetingology> +1 nice documentation and interaction across a number of teams received from head_victim
[10:11] <head_victim> #endvote
[10:11] <meetingology> Voting ended on: board members pelase vote on jokerdino's Ubuntu Membership Application
[10:11] <meetingology> Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[10:11] <meetingology> Motion carried
[10:12] <jokerdino> Thank you. I feel appreciated. :)
[10:12] <popey> \o/ congratulations jokerdino, keep up the great work.
[10:12] <benonsoftware> Well done jokerdino
[10:12] <head_victim> jokerdino: Congratulations on becoming a Ubuntu Member!
[10:12] <amithkk> Congratz jokerdino
[10:12] <Destine> jokerdino, congrats
[10:12] <amithkk> You are now part of the Ubuntu Members
[10:12] <jokerdino> Thank you all. :)
[10:12] <amithkk> now... back to unicorns
[10:12] <jokerdino> I am going to copy this irclog and save it for future reference :)
[10:14] <head_victim> jokerdino: please do :)
[10:14] <head_victim> #topic oscalation 's membership application
[10:14] <Destine> i copied mine too. jokerdino
[10:14] <jokerdino> hah, nice to know :D
[10:15] <head_victim> oscalation: you have recently applied and asked to come back, to make things easier what has changed since your last application
[10:16] <oscalation> hey head_victim and others. Im Oscalation. Ive been using ubuntu for many years. My launchpad profile can be found here https://launchpad.net/~nathan1465-5 and Wiki page here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/oscalation. I have a few testimonials. I have been active in Ubuntu Answers and Ubuntu Documentation.  I do some small Beta testing, been testing 12.04 for a while now. I enjoy using Ubuntu and helping other users online. Im slowly moving my
[10:16] <oscalation>  launchpad karma points closer to my 10k goal. In the near future I hope to meet 10k karma and increase my involvement with documentation. Major changes was that I obtained a few testimonials and did a little work on my wiki page.
[10:18] <head_victim> oscalation: bear with us, just reading over the documentation
[10:18] <elky> oscalation, did you see head_victim's question?
[10:19] <oscalation> no problem. take your time. Yes. Changes since last meeting was that I have corrected my wiki page, increased my activitys in Ubuntu answers, obtain some testimonials to account for my involvement's.
[10:20] <elky> but you're still not using askubuntu?
[10:20] <oscalation> No. I do not use AskUbuntu.
[10:20] <elky> why not?
[10:20] <head_victim> oscalation: is there any involvement in teams outside of Answers?
[10:21] <oscalation> No. Other than updating Documentation here and there.
[10:21] <jokerdino> oscalation: we are a bunch of nice guys in ask ubuntu. :)
[10:22] <oscalation> i havent made the switch. isnt ask ubuntu = stack exchange?
[10:22] <amithkk> oscalation: You bet on that
[10:22] <jokerdino> we will be happy to have you
[10:22] <amithkk> We will love you there
[10:22] <Destine> oscalation, i see you participate in #ubuntu-devel, bugs and testing, do you have any involvement with these teams' activities?
[10:22] <head_victim> Not to say that Answers isn't a worthy project, I'm just trying to see if there's any involvement eslewhere.
[10:22] <benonsoftware> oscalation: Its like a big family on Stack Exchange :P
[10:23] <elky> oscalation, yes, it's stack exchange. it's the prefered place because it's more interactive and lets good answers essentially be showcased and easier to find for the next person with the problem
[10:23] <oscalation> no problem. my involvement with bugs and testing is nothing official, more so ive helped and talked on the mailing list before.
[10:23] <oscalation> elky, doe ask ubuntu work with ubuntu ssi
[10:23] <Destine> oscalation, i see.
[10:24] <jokerdino> oscalation: we are currently working on Ubuntu SSO, but launchpad SSO is already working.
[10:24] <oscalation> good enough for me
[10:24] <Destine> jokerdino, advertising huh.
[10:24] <elky> oscalation, openid with launchpad. it has it's own karma system though
[10:24] <oscalation> ah dang
[10:24] <head_victim> Ready to vote?
[10:25] <elky> karma on launchpad is a huge red herring really
[10:25] <jokerdino> Destine: No, lol. Just clearing up the doubts :D
[10:25] <oscalation> i file some bug reports on launchpad but not enough to hit my 10k mark by the end of the year
[10:26] <czajkowski> head_victim: yes
[10:26] <head_victim> #vote board members please vote on oscalation 's Ubuntu Membership Application
[10:26] <meetingology> Please vote on: board members please vote on oscalation 's Ubuntu Membership Application
[10:26] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[10:27] <czajkowski> +0
[10:27] <meetingology> +0 received from czajkowski
[10:27] <Destine> +0
[10:27] <meetingology> +0 received from Destine
[10:27] <head_victim> +0 I do believe your documentation has improved a little over the last application. I would like to see some involvement in other teams (loco, ask ubuntu, forums, etc) and a few more signed testimonials
[10:27] <meetingology> +0 I do believe your documentation has improved a little over the last application. I would like to see some involvement in other teams (loco, ask ubuntu, forums, etc) and a few more signed testimonials received from head_victim
[10:27] <elky> +0 we really would like to see significant (not token) activity outside answers
[10:27] <meetingology> +0 we really would like to see significant (not token) activity outside answers received from elky
[10:29] <head_victim> #endvote
[10:29] <meetingology> Voting ended on: board members please vote on oscalation 's Ubuntu Membership Application
[10:29] <meetingology> Votes for:0 Votes against:0 Abstentions:4
[10:29] <meetingology> Deadlock, casting vote may be used
[10:29] <head_victim> oscalation: I'm happy to work with you on this but I really would like to see some more involvement in more than just one team. If you're only involved in one team I'd expect to see an extreme involvement backed up by a bunch of signed testimonials from the team members.
[10:30] <oscalation> This is getting to be a little bit much. I am involved, with ubuntu answers, it seems this doenst count even though the application process  claims to be impartial of what form or channel users contribute from.
[10:31] <Destine> AlanBell, glad to see you here.
[10:31] <Destine> AlanBell, that deadlock appears again.
[10:31] <AlanBell> hi, how can I help?
[10:31] <elky> oscalation, you were asked last time to broaden your horizons.
[10:32] <Destine> oscalation, and to improve your testimonials.
[10:32] <oscalation> what your indirectly stating is that My involvement in Ubuntu Answers is hard to measure therefor not accepted. Which should be discussed and added to the application process.
[10:32] <sagaci>  > #votesrequired 1
[10:32] <Destine> AlanBell, when we gave 4 +0, it's deadlock...
[10:33] <head_victim> I've got to be honest, I don't know who Olivier is and only have a passing reference of who Andy is. If I had signed testimonials I could look up who they are.
[10:33] <head_victim> sagaci: yeah I should have made it +4 before :/
[10:33] <AlanBell> sagaci is right :)
[10:33] <sagaci> head_victim: shouldn't it be +1
[10:33] <sagaci> you don't need everyone to be on the crazytrain :)
[10:33] <Destine> sagaci, +1 is right.
[10:33] <oscalation> I added a testimonial from ActionParsnip as requested before, and I got more votes then i believe.
[10:34] <oscalation> ive improved the requested improvements from the last meeting and obtained less votes
[10:34] <sagaci> oscalation: all involvement in ubuntu is hard to measure
[10:34] <head_victim> sagaci: trying to suss that out, possible needs all 4 +1s as we only have bare minimum quorum
[10:34] <oscalation> Is there a board to dispute this vote with? Im not interested in applying again.
[10:36] <benonsoftware> oscalation: The Community Council, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncil ?
[10:36] <head_victim> oscalation: if you're unhappy with the result please contact the community council as benonsoftware has just linked
[10:36] <head_victim> They are the body who oversees the board.
[10:36] <Destine> oscalation, or Local Council? head_victim
[10:36] <elky> I'm not at all impressed that membership is being treated as some kind of right.
[10:36] <oscalation> Thanks. I'll shoo them a message. I'll save the discussion and post it on my wiki for other team involvements. Thanks alot.
[10:36] <czajkowski> Destine: no not the LC!!
[10:37] <Destine> czajkowski, thank you for the correction. I am not sure about that.
[10:37] <czajkowski> Destine: the CC is over all governance boards
[10:37] <czajkowski> Destine: the LC is over locoteams :)
[10:37]  * benonsoftware thinks is czajkowski on the CC?
[10:37] <czajkowski> benonsoftware: I am
[10:38]  * jokerdino forgot to thank czajkowski for helping out with my wiki page.
[10:38] <jokerdino> eh, a bit too late?
[10:38] <czajkowski> jokerdino: thats ok any time
[10:38] <Destine> jokerdino, no.
[10:39] <head_victim> #endvote
[10:39] <meetingology> No vote in progress
[10:39] <head_victim> Ok so no other applicants are around we'll end the meeting
[10:39] <Destine> head_victim, thank you.
[10:39] <sagaci> well done jokerdino
[10:39] <Destine> jokerdino, congrats.
[10:39] <head_victim> #Action board members to update the wiki, add jokerdino to the lp team and email results
[10:39] <meetingology> ACTION: board members to update the wiki, add jokerdino to the lp team and email results
[10:39] <jokerdino> thanks sagaci
[10:39] <head_victim> #endmeeting
[10:39] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Mar 13 10:39:53 2012 UTC.
[10:39] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-03-13-10.00.moin.txt
[10:39] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-03-13-10.00.html
[10:40] <benonsoftware> Congrats again jokerdino
[10:40] <jokerdino> thanks head_victim for the meeting.
[10:40] <head_victim> oscalation: happy to discuss further as required, we just need to end the meeting for the meeting logs
[10:40] <jokerdino> and thanks everyone for finishing the quorum.
[10:40] <Destine> oscalation, you can stay and talk.
[10:40] <head_victim> Basically I think we've already covered what the issues are though
[10:40] <jokerdino> i was afraid this meeting wouldn't take place :S
[10:40] <head_victim> czajkowski: thanks for stepping in, elky and Destine, cheers for being here :)
[10:40] <oscalation> issues are you want me to be more involved with anything other than ubuntu answers, correct?
[10:40]  * jokerdino sometimes talks too much.
[10:41] <head_victim> oscalation: or show a very high level of involvement in ubuntu answers.
[10:41] <oscalation> i have a high involvement with answers. imho
[10:41] <head_victim> oscalation: ok, well it doesn't show that in the application. It shows you work on them yes, but to what degree isn't clear.
[10:42] <oscalation> my  karma points is 7k, that to me is pretty high
[10:42] <czajkowski> oscalation: we dont look at karma scores
[10:42] <head_victim> I personally have no idea how hard karma is to achieve in answers, so that in itself isn't useful.
[10:42] <czajkowski> as they vary and can go up and down very fast
[10:42] <czajkowski> head_victim: https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/Karma
[10:43] <oscalation> the application process states
[10:43] <oscalation> The idea that only technical contributions (like patches or uploads of packages) or only contributions which give rise to karma in Launchpad is incorrect.
[10:43] <oscalation> one would think this would mean that karma is accepted and used to judge ones involvement
[10:43] <czajkowski> oscalation: the meeting is over, if you still wish to take this up wth the CC please feel free to do so
[10:44] <head_victim> czajkowski: yeah but unless you're involved in an area it's hard to judge just how quickly and greatly it varies.
[10:44] <oscalation> I cant list the thousands of quesions ive answered on my wiki page
[10:44] <Destine> oscalation, but nobody really backed you up.
[10:45] <oscalation> ubuntu answers, backs me up   https://answers.launchpad.net/~nathan1465-5
[10:45] <elky> launchpad doesn't give points for correctness or anything like that, it's really inaccurate.
[10:45] <oscalation> thats why they mark questions as solved.
[10:46] <czajkowski> oscalation: no not all questions are marked solved, they are marked answered
[10:46] <czajkowski> but not everyone goes back and marks them solved.
[10:46] <oscalation> right, which means that when I resolve a users question they mark it as solved showing some scale in my support and effectiveness
[10:48] <oscalation> There are many different ways of contributing to Ubuntu. Contributions are valued and recognized whether you contribute to artwork, any of the LoCoTeams, documentation, providing support on the forums, the answers tracker, IRC support, bug triage, translation, development and packaging, marketing and advocacy, contributing to the wiki, or anything else
[10:49] <Destine> oscalation, indeed.
[10:50] <oscalation> just to confirm that I understand correctly. Your stating that 7k karma on ubuntu answer is not enough, and that I should look to help in another method/channel/team correct?
[10:50] <Destine> oscalation, karma is not everything.
[10:51] <sagaci> try spending half the time you'd usually spend on answers on a different area
[10:53]  * jokerdino has to leave for dinner. Bye all!
[10:53] <oscalation> my preffered location for support is in Ubuntu Answers and the application for membership seems to address the question that your chosen method of contributions is irrelevant as ". The whole community needs each other and depends on each other. Whichever way you choose to bring benefit to Ubuntu and help others is very much appreciated."
[10:54] <oscalation> Destine, karma is everything to me, and if its not good enough or excepeted then the application process page should updated to reflect that.
[10:56] <head_victim> oscalation: if you had substantial signed testimonials it may be enough
[10:56] <Destine> oscalation, then you can do something else to increase your karma.
[10:56] <head_victim> But the testimonails on your page aren't able to be verified (no links to who wrote them) and aren't overly strong.
[10:56] <sagaci> karma can be argued as a sign of red bull and determination :)
[10:57] <Destine> oscalation, if you could ask recognizable people to come to meeting, that will be good, too.
[11:19] <AlanBell> just doing a quick meeting test
[11:19] <AlanBell> #startmeeting
[11:19] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Mar 13 11:19:59 2012 UTC.  The chair is AlanBell. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[11:20] <AlanBell> #vote are deadlocks working right?
[11:20] <meetingology> Please vote on: are deadlocks working right?
[11:20] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[11:20] <AlanBell> +0 maybe
[11:20] <meetingology> +0 maybe received from AlanBell
[11:20] <AlanBell> #endvote
[11:20] <meetingology> Voting ended on: are deadlocks working right?
[11:20] <meetingology> Votes for:0 Votes against:0 Abstentions:1
[11:20] <meetingology> Deadlock, casting vote may be used
[11:20] <AlanBell> #votesrequired 1
[11:20] <meetingology> votes now need 1 to be passed
[11:20] <AlanBell> #vote are deadlocks just fine the way they are?
[11:20] <meetingology> Please vote on: are deadlocks just fine the way they are?
[11:20] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[11:20] <AlanBell> +0 yeah, probably
[11:20] <meetingology> +0 yeah, probably received from AlanBell
[11:20] <AlanBell> #endvote
[11:20] <meetingology> Voting ended on: are deadlocks just fine the way they are?
[11:20] <meetingology> Votes for:0 Votes against:0 Abstentions:1
[11:20] <meetingology> Motion denied
[11:20] <AlanBell> #vote so a positive totall is required now?
[11:20] <meetingology> Please vote on: so a positive totall is required now?
[11:21] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[11:21] <AlanBell> +1
[11:21] <meetingology> +1 received from AlanBell
[11:21] <AlanBell> #endvote
[11:21] <meetingology> Voting ended on: so a positive totall is required now?
[11:21] <meetingology> Votes for:1 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[11:21] <meetingology> Motion carried
[11:21] <AlanBell> #endmeeting
[11:21] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Mar 13 11:21:10 2012 UTC.
[11:21] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-03-13-11.19.moin.txt
[11:21] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-03-13-11.19.html
[11:21] <AlanBell> elky: ^^
[11:26] <head_victim> AlanBell: yeah sorry I set the voters but forgot to set the votesrequired
[11:26] <head_victim> I think the contention is if it's +0 then it should be a vote failed?
[11:32] <AlanBell> well yes, if you tell it that is what you want
[11:34] <AlanBell> normally if the votes sum to zero a deadlock is the desired meaning
[11:43] <head_victim> AlanBell: I'll just try to remember to set votesrequired next time
[14:59] <s3hh> uh, hm.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Meeting doesn't exist?
[15:00] <s3hh> and there is no meeting log page for last week's meeting?
[15:00] <s3hh> Daviey: ^
[15:00] <s3hh> oh wait.  utc.  meeting is in another hour isn't it
[15:00] <s3hh> $(*&%*(
[16:00] <justinlw> 'allo
[16:00] <Daviey> hola.. currently on a call, so split attention :(
[16:01] <s3hh> roaksoax: you ran the meeting last week?
[16:01] <roaksoax> s3hh: yeah! Just saw too that there's no meeting page
[16:02] <roaksoax> s3hh: which appears weird to me cause I'm sure I didn't delete it
[16:02] <SpamapS> o/
[16:02] <Daviey> the wiki seems poorly.. please use, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Meeting?rev=601
[16:03] <s3hh> roaksoax: but, are there any meeting notes?
[16:03] <roaksoax> s3hh: yes, give me a sec to update... need to look for them
[16:03] <s3hh> ah ok
[16:03] <SpamapS> Did we start yet?
[16:03] <SpamapS> I want to chair!
[16:03] <SpamapS> sorry I got distracted on my way to the meeting. ;)
[16:04] <m_3> o/
[16:04] <arosales> SpamapS: since Daviey is split between a meeting I am sure he would be glad to hand over the chair to you :-)
[16:04]  * m_3 distracting peeps on the way to the meeting
[16:04] <Daviey> SpamapS: you have 6 months of chairing :)
[16:05] <s3hh> #startmeeting
[16:05] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Mar 13 16:05:17 2012 UTC.  The chair is s3hh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[16:05] <SpamapS> s3hh: who are you?
[16:05] <s3hh> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[16:05] <s3hh> your WORST NIGHTMIGHTE
[16:05] <SpamapS> lol
[16:05] <s3hh> i'm in ur meetings, takin over ur agendas
[16:05] <SpamapS> fine
[16:06] <jamespage> o/
[16:06] <adam_g> \o
[16:06] <Daviey> o/
[16:06] <s3hh> so, i'm looking through the irc log for the action items, hopefully i don't miss any :)
[16:06] <arosales> o/
[16:06] <s3hh> add subtopics for release-bugs/BP;s under precise/current development
[16:06] <s3hh> (believe that's SpamapS ?)
[16:07] <s3hh> guess not
[16:07] <arosales> s3hh: I think rbasak and I proposed that last week
[16:07] <SpamapS> huh?
[16:08] <arosales> basically to add sub-topics under precise development to include bugs and blueprints we want to discuss
[16:08] <s3hh> did anyone volunteer to do that?
[16:08] <s3hh> (noone was assigned)_
[16:08] <arosales> so going forward we may change the meeting template to have that.  Is that ok with the team going forward?
[16:09] <s3hh> i think, absolutely
[16:09] <SpamapS> would be nice so we can prepare for the meeting better
[16:09] <s3hh> new action, assign to arosales?
[16:09] <arosales> s3hh: sure, I'll take that one
[16:09] <s3hh> #action arosales: add subtopics for release-bugs/BP;s under precise/current development
[16:09] <meetingology> ACTION: arosales: add subtopics for release-bugs/BP;s under precise/current development
[16:09] <s3hh> arosales: thanks
[16:09] <s3hh> ok, that's it for actions that i can find in the irc log
[16:10] <s3hh> #topic Precise Development
[16:10] <s3hh> take it away, Daviey or arosales ...
[16:10] <Daviey> http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html
[16:10] <arosales> bug 924739
[16:10] <Daviey> SpamapS: can you iterate through them, then do WI progress?
[16:11] <SpamapS> sure
[16:11] <adam_g> arosales: ive begun working on a patch to packaging to help make the transition more obvious to users, should have something proposed here soon
[16:11] <Daviey> adam_g: great!
[16:11] <SpamapS> https://launchpad.net/bugs/924739
[16:11] <arosales> adam_g: Thanks for continuing to chop away on that one.
[16:12] <SpamapS> bug 883988
[16:12] <SpamapS> no zul today, seems like something he'd be working on.
[16:12] <adam_g> SpamapS: and for that, ive come up with a glance patch
[16:12] <SpamapS> ahh sweet
[16:12] <adam_g> just need to do some more thorough testing this week
[16:12] <SpamapS> bug 893926
[16:12] <SpamapS> Ugh, thats been open since 11.10
[16:12] <Daviey> SpamapS: hoped it would be solved from a Debian sync
[16:12] <SpamapS> Volunteers?
[16:13] <Daviey> no progress.
[16:13] <SpamapS> utlemming: I choose you!
[16:13] <SpamapS> utlemming: think you could dig through and tear out the Ubuntu branding from that package?
[16:13] <SpamapS> should be a quick job
[16:14] <SpamapS> while we wait for utlemming's response..
[16:14] <SpamapS> 925024
[16:14] <SpamapS> bug 925024
[16:14]  * utlemming consents
[16:14] <SpamapS> Anybody looked at that?
[16:14] <SpamapS> s3hh: got cycles to triage?
[16:14] <s3hh> solved in a jjohansen kernel
[16:14] <SpamapS> oh awesome ok
[16:14] <SpamapS> s3hh: so perhaps the status should be In Progress ?
[16:14] <s3hh> maybe - i'll change it
[16:15] <s3hh> heck maybe fix committed
[16:15] <SpamapS> utlemming: Thanks, please assign that bug to yourself and.. just so you know, we're all counting on you.. good luck
[16:15] <SpamapS> ;)
[16:15] <s3hh> i think it's in the kernel source
[16:15] <s3hh> jjohansen: can you confirm?
[16:15] <SpamapS> s3hh: awesome, thanks
[16:15] <SpamapS> bug 850443
[16:15] <SpamapS> Daviey: ping?
[16:16] <jjohansen> s3hh: the fix isn't in precise yet, but I will be pushing out the patches today
[16:16] <SpamapS> I'm going to skip the zentyal bug as its a bigger discussion
[16:16] <SpamapS> bug 928990
[16:16] <Daviey> SpamapS: HEY
[16:16] <SpamapS> Daviey: ^^ eventlet bug?
[16:16] <Daviey> STIL AWAIITNG NEWS FROM UPSTREM
[16:16] <Daviey> gah
[16:16] <Daviey> Might be deferred
[16:16] <SpamapS> Daviey: ACK, will that be an SRU candidate?
[16:16] <Daviey> maybe
[16:17] <Daviey> SpamapS: it unblocks ipv6 on openstack
[16:17] <SpamapS> Seems like it has to be.. IPv6 will conceivably be very important over the next 5 years
[16:17] <Daviey> If it does unblock, the no, not SRU candidate
[16:17] <Daviey> (ie, if it uncovers other issues)
[16:17] <SpamapS> smoser: any news on that fsck bug for cloud-init ?
[16:18] <SpamapS> utlemming: maybe you've been looking at it?
[16:18] <smoser> SpamapS, no. i've not looked at it.
[16:18] <smoser> its marked 'High', but...
[16:18] <smoser> its been that way since, well, forever.
[16:18] <smoser> :)
[16:18] <smoser> i'd like to have it fixed though, if someone wanted to grab it
[16:18] <SpamapS> It sounds like a fun problem to solve actually
[16:19] <SpamapS> I have basically no time.. but I'd be happy to assist anybody who takes it up.. so .. please somebody reading this, assign that bug to yourself and ping me and/or smoser :)
[16:19] <SpamapS> moving on
[16:19] <SpamapS> bug 930916
[16:20] <SpamapS> looks like a cherry pick from Debian
[16:20] <SpamapS> I'll take that.
[16:20] <SpamapS> bug 880339
[16:21] <SpamapS> mysql-5.1 is being removed from precise
[16:21] <SpamapS> will update as such, moving on
[16:22] <SpamapS> bug 907197
[16:22] <adam_g> i think chuck was looking at that
[16:22] <SpamapS> Yeah I think we'll just defer that to next week
[16:22] <SpamapS> bug 918791
[16:22] <SpamapS> s3hh: guessing thats you?
[16:22] <justinlw> serge has a patch, but I'm dubious
[16:23] <s3hh> justinlw: why dubious?
[16:23] <s3hh> the only response on qemu m-l has been a tested-by
[16:23] <s3hh> so i think it's going in upstream
[16:23] <justinlw> it doesn't fix the real issue.  it prevents the crash
[16:23] <SpamapS> w00t :)
[16:23] <SpamapS> justinlw: this is not the segfault you're looking for..
[16:23] <s3hh> the real issue is vnc can't handle negative mappings
[16:23] <justinlw> curses.  overruled again. :-)
[16:24] <s3hh> so we hide those.
[16:24] <SpamapS> Ok sounds like you guys have that one under control
[16:24] <SpamapS> bug 901881
[16:24] <adam_g> SpamapS: still blocked on keystone's MIR, i think
[16:25] <SpamapS> roger..
[16:25] <SpamapS> since we have so many MIR's filed, lets check in on them
[16:25] <SpamapS> bug 912861
[16:25] <SpamapS> jdstrand is taking a look at that one today I believe. :)
[16:26] <SpamapS> bug 913883
[16:26] <SpamapS> and we got a conditional ACK on that one from jdstrand as well.. need to add a bit of documentation but its just about ready (I'm working on that)
[16:26] <SpamapS> bug 914164
[16:27] <SpamapS> Bueller? Bueller?
[16:27] <jdstrand> (I approved txzookeeper btw, looking at txaws now)
[16:27] <SpamapS> jdstrand: excellent thanks!
[16:27] <SpamapS> ok horizon was Chuck's mir so we'll skip
[16:28] <SpamapS> bug 881464
[16:29] <Daviey> in progress.
[16:29] <SpamapS> anything to report?
[16:29] <Daviey> no, still ongoing
[16:29] <Daviey> It's not a small task
[16:29] <SpamapS> Indeed!
[16:30] <Daviey> Being a rewrite from scratch, all previos work was invalidated
[16:30] <SpamapS> Daviey: its the spice of life baby. :)
[16:30] <Daviey> \o/
[16:30] <SpamapS> Ok, so, blueprints.
[16:30] <SpamapS> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-p-cloud-power-management
[16:31] <SpamapS> I'm not familiar with that one..
[16:31] <jdstrand> (keystone has a conditional ACK for main-- but there are a lot of failing tests that might be what Daviey is referring to)
[16:32] <Daviey> SpamapS: that is really deferred.. but i've been unwilling to do so.
[16:33] <SpamapS> Daviey: maybe take an action to reach out to Uzuul?
[16:33] <SpamapS> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-p-install-experience
[16:34] <SpamapS> Daviey: not that any of that can be POSTPONED .. but.. any updates?
[16:34] <SpamapS> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-p-juju-charm-testing
[16:34] <Daviey> SpamapS: they've either been done or postponed.
[16:35] <Daviey> (updated)
[16:35] <Daviey> where postponed == no longer relevant
[16:35] <SpamapS> roger
[16:35] <SpamapS> So for charm testing.. there are some merge proposals against juju that, once ACK'd , will allow moving forward with the rest of charm testing.
[16:35] <SpamapS> Things to make it easier to write the test runner
[16:36] <SpamapS> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-p-ceph
[16:36] <SpamapS> I'm afraid we may not be able to ship kvm+librados in 12.04 because ceph is not in main yet...
[16:37] <s3hh> :(
[16:37] <s3hh> but agreed
[16:37] <SpamapS> We have juju, big chunks of openstack, and then ceph .. all stacked on top of the MIR team .. so I think the first two have to take precedence.
[16:38] <s3hh> agreed
[16:38] <SpamapS> jdstrand: anything we can do to ease the MIR team's burden?
[16:39] <SpamapS> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-p-openstack-testing
[16:40] <SpamapS> Collaborate on defining charm use workflow between OpenStack and Ubuntu: TODO
[16:40] <SpamapS> adam_g: whats the status of that? Can we do that de-coupled from the precise release? (as in, POSTPONED) ?
[16:40] <adam_g> SpamapS: i think that will likely happen at the openstack design summit next month
[16:40] <jamespage> adam_g, agreed
[16:41] <SpamapS> ok, sounds like that should stay TODO and will be sorted then
[16:41] <adam_g> SpamapS: but yeah, its not tied to the release schedule. so..
[16:41] <SpamapS> adam_g: can you add a  "Discussion pending at ODS" note or something to explain that?
[16:41] <adam_g> sure
[16:41] <SpamapS> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-p-automated-boot-testing
[16:42] <SpamapS> I plan to work on that this week, as my reboot tests have never worked right. :(
[16:42] <jamespage> SpamapS, I had a look at that yesterday - lets talk  (its not working ATM)
[16:42] <SpamapS> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-p-orchestra
[16:42] <jamespage> (I can fix it tho)
[16:42] <SpamapS> "50% of 50" ??
[16:43] <SpamapS> jamespage: Oh! you have an idea? I think its probably something simple. :)
[16:43] <jamespage> SpamapS, yep - I know what the issue is
[16:43] <SpamapS> jamespage: its just such a monstrous thing to spin up a test env (too bad its not charmed.. ;)
[16:43] <jamespage> SpamapS, meh - its not to bad
[16:43] <SpamapS> jamespage: ok, post meeting then. :)
[16:43] <jamespage> yep
[16:44] <SpamapS> roaksoax: the orchestra blueprint.. it seems a bit behind schedule..I see a lot of "raise MIR if needed" .. whats the status there?
[16:45] <roaksoax> SpamapS: waiting for MaaS to MIR the rest
[16:45] <SpamapS> ok cool
[16:46] <SpamapS> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-p-kvm-document-suggested-changes
[16:46] <s3hh> still holding off on that until bugs and features are in check
[16:47] <s3hh> iow, it's not subject to any freezes, so i'm keeping it for last
[16:47] <SpamapS> s3hh: roger, just poking you because it shows up on status.ubuntu.com as being a bit behind
[16:47] <s3hh> aqctually i may do a first run this week or next
[16:47] <SpamapS> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-p-openstack-charms
[16:47] <s3hh> SpamapS: i may postpone parts of it
[16:47] <s3hh> and only do the io benchmarks this cycle
[16:47] <SpamapS> s3hh: sooner you do that, the better we know what else we don't have to postpone. :)
[16:48] <adam_g> SpamapS: the swift charm is really something i think we need done this cycle, but the rest are either nice-to-haves  or waiting on collcation/subordinates
[16:48] <SpamapS> adam_g: openstack charms look like there is a lot of opportunistic work there to do if you have spare cycles ...
[16:48] <s3hh> SpamapS: will do it today
[16:49] <SpamapS> adam_g: hazmat/bcsaller/jimbaker are sprinting this week, I expect subordinates to land as a result. :)
[16:49] <adam_g> party time
[16:49] <jamespage> \o/
[16:49] <SpamapS> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-p-juju-roadmap
[16:49] <SpamapS> This one is actually looking pretty good compared to 2 weeks ago
[16:49] <SpamapS> constraints has landed!!
[16:50] <SpamapS> And if you look at the In Progress bugs there, those are in review actually.
[16:50] <SpamapS> So, huzzah, we should have it soon. :)
[16:51] <SpamapS> ok we are short on time, so I'm going to move on
[16:51] <SpamapS> s3hh: thanks Mr. Chekov.. take us out.
[16:51] <s3hh> thanks SpamapS
[16:52] <s3hh> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events
[16:52] <s3hh> uds coming up of course
[16:52] <arosales> m_3 @ MountainWestRuby
[16:52] <arosales> Mrch 15 - 17
[16:52] <s3hh> minor chance that i may be going to end-user l-f summit to query end users on their usage of cgroups
[16:52] <s3hh> not sure when, hoping i can trick someone else into going
[16:53] <arosales> SpamapS: 2 charm schools done in the past week
[16:53] <SpamapS> YES
[16:53] <SpamapS> yesterday went quite well
[16:53] <arosales> 1 webinar, and 1 in SF
[16:53] <SpamapS> write-up to juju@l.u.c coming :)
[16:53] <SpamapS> not SF
[16:53] <SpamapS> Santa Clara != SF :)
[16:53] <arosales> Santa Clara
[16:53] <arosales> sorry
[16:54] <arosales> SpamapS: glad to hear it went well
[16:54] <SpamapS> its like calling New Jersey New York ;)
[16:54] <arosales> :-)
[16:54] <arosales> noted
[16:54] <SpamapS> Santa Clara, the land of 1000 chain restaurants
[16:54] <m_3> best indian food... ever
[16:55] <s3hh> uh, sorry, i'm dragging
[16:55] <s3hh> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)
[16:55] <s3hh> hggdh: hi, are you around?
[16:56] <s3hh> moving on,
[16:56] <s3hh> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)
[16:56] <s3hh> hey smb
[16:56] <smb> Hey. I have been hacking up a few changes for xen and libvirt to avoid oddities related to pxe-boot of e1000 emulation nics and the use of any other than the default emulation through libvirt (which I could use hallyn (or s3hh or whatever he is called by then) to find out whether and how this could flow back upstream) bug 949028
[16:57] <smb> On completely unrelated topic /me just wants to express his unamusedness with ap
[16:57] <smb> t-cacher-ng's performance in precise (but was the same in oneiric). A good deal
[16:57] <smb> of my installs fail because it looses its mind... Nothing really that would be r
[16:57] <smb> elevant here but I wanted to take the chance to rant. :)
[16:57] <s3hh> (i'll be honest i still don't understand your ipxe request, but i'll re-read it all more closely)
[16:57] <s3hh> interesting - i use it all over the place for lxc, and haven't really noticed any probs
[16:57] <smb> s3hh, We can talk about it later too
[16:57] <SpamapS> smb: bug #? I also am not super happy with it
[16:57] <smb> Beside of that I got nothing else.
[16:57] <SpamapS> Its fine in single threads
[16:57] <smb> SpamapS, Not yet, but I really should
[16:58] <SpamapS> Ok
[16:58] <SpamapS> we're almost out of time.. so..
[16:58] <s3hh> anyone have questions to ask smb?
[16:58] <s3hh> ok,
[16:58] <s3hh> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)
[16:58] <s3hh> rbasak: anything?
[16:58] <rbasak> Nothing to report.
[16:58] <rbasak> Any questions for me?
[16:58] <s3hh> thanks
[16:58] <s3hh> #topic Open Discussion
[16:58] <s3hh> any?
[16:58] <s3hh> 3
[16:58] <s3hh> 2
[16:58] <s3hh> 1
[16:58] <jamespage> zentyal
[16:59] <SpamapS> yes!
[16:59] <SpamapS> looks like its about ready
[16:59] <jamespage> I think its almost there - just need to sort out the transition from ebox packages and its ready to upload
[16:59] <SpamapS> huats: nicely done
[16:59] <SpamapS> jamespage: you too! my hero!
[16:59] <SpamapS> FFe is granted too
[16:59] <jamespage> FFe approved and archive admin found to review - thanks tumbleweed and  Riddell
[17:00] <jamespage> done
[17:00] <s3hh> #topic Announce next meeting date and time
[17:00] <s3hh> Tuesday mar 20, 16:00 UTC
[17:00] <s3hh> thanks all
[17:00] <s3hh> #endmeeting
[17:00] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Mar 13 17:00:29 2012 UTC.
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[17:00] <arosales> s3hh: thanks for charing: SpamapS thanks for running down the bugs and blueprints
[17:00] <SpamapS> s3hh: thanks.. ;)
[17:00] <jsalisbury> #startmeeting
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[17:01] <jsalisbury> Roll Call for Ubuntu Kernel Weekly Status Meeting
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[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati)
[17:01] <ppisati> P/omap4: a new kernel (3.2.0-1408.11) is out - it contains a buch of CVE fixes and it has been rebased on Ubuntu-3.2.0-18.2 (vanilla 3.2.9).
[17:01] <ppisati> ..
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury)
[17:01] <jsalisbury> Release metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following link:
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt
[17:01] <jsalisbury> ..
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara)
[17:02] <ogasawara> [LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/canonical-kernel-distro-team-ubuntu-12.04-beta-2.html
[17:02] <ogasawara> || apw        || hardware-p-kernel-boot                || 4 work items ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> ||            || hardware-p-kernel-config-review       || 1 work items ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> ||            || hardware-p-kernel-delta-review        || 3 work items ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> || ogasawara  || hardware-p-kernel-config-review       || 1 work item  ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> If your name is in the above table, please review your Beta-2 work items.
[17:02] <ogasawara> ..
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Blueprint: hardware-p-kernel-power-management (cking)
[17:02] <cking> nothing to report this week
[17:02] <cking> ..
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Precise Development Kernel (ogasawara)
[17:02] <ogasawara> We uploaded the 3.2.0-18.29 kernel last Friday and we have just
[17:02] <ogasawara> rebased master-next to upstream stable v3.2.10 (minus 1 patch which
[17:02] <ogasawara> introduces a build failure).  Beta-2 Freeze is next Thurs, March 22.  I
[17:02] <ogasawara> plan to upload this Friday and hope that this will be the kernel we use
[17:02] <ogasawara> for Beta-2.  Should any additional patches land which are deemed
[17:02] <ogasawara> necessary for Beta-2 we would have enough time to upload again no later
[17:02] <ogasawara> than Tues, March 20.  Any uploads after that are subject to approval by
[17:02] <ogasawara> the release team.
[17:02] <ogasawara> Important upcoming dates:
[17:02] <ogasawara>  * Thurs Mar 22 - Beta-2 Freeze (~1 week)
[17:02] <ogasawara>  * Thurs Mar 29 - Beta-2 (~2 weeks)
[17:02] <ogasawara> ..
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: CVE's (apw)
[17:03] <apw> Currently we have 71 CVEs on our radar, two new CVEs were added this week.
[17:03] <apw> See the CVE matrix for the current list:
[17:03] <apw>  
[17:03] <apw> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/ALL-linux.html
[17:03] <apw>  
[17:03] <apw> In addition to the two new CVEs one gained an additional fix which has
[17:03] <apw> also been applied.  Overall the backlog is unchanged this week:
[17:03] <apw>  
[17:03] <apw> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/status/cve-metrics.txt
[17:03] <apw> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt
[17:03] <apw>  
[17:03] <apw> ..
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Oneiric/Natty/Maverick/Lucid/Hardy (bjf/herton)
[17:03] <bjf>  
[17:03] <bjf> Here is the status for the main kernels, until today (Mar. 06):
[17:03] <bjf>  
[17:03] <bjf>  * Hardy    - 2.6.24-31.100 - Regression testing; A single CVE.
[17:03] <bjf>  * Lucid    - 2.6.32-40.87  - Regression testing; CVEs, eCryptfs, NFSv4, block, and other misc. fixes.
[17:03] <bjf>  * Maverick - 2.6.35-32.67  - Promote to -updates; A single CVE.
[17:03] <bjf>  * Natty    - 2.6.38-13.57  - Security pocket review; CVEs, eCryptfs and some other fixes.
[17:03] <bjf>  * Oneiric  - 3.0.0-16.29   - Verification; CVEs and 3 stable upstream releases.
[17:03] <bjf>  
[17:03] <bjf> Current opened tracking bugs details:
[17:03] <bjf>  * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html
[17:03] <bjf>  
[17:03] <bjf> For SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information:
[17:03] <bjf>  * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html
[17:03] <bjf>  
[17:03] <bjf> Future stable cadence cycles:
[17:03] <bjf>  * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseInterlock
[17:03] <bjf> ..
[17:04] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/)
[17:04] <jsalisbury> Thanks everyone
[17:04] <jsalisbury> #endmeeting
[17:04] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Mar 13 17:04:31 2012 UTC.
[17:04] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-03-13-17.00.moin.txt
[17:04] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-03-13-17.00.html
[17:04] <cking> thanks jsalisbury
[17:04] <apw> jsalisbury, thanks
[18:06] <lifeless> head_victim: sorry, I have been sick so far this week; just getting back to work today