[04:56] <jyo> pleia2: I presume BART means my arrival and departure times are not too important. :)
[04:59] <pleia2> jyo: hah, yeah, that is kinda goofy when you're local
[04:59] <pleia2> I think I put 8AM monday and 18:00 Friday
[05:24] <philipballew> looks like a fun conversation in -women there pleia2 :)
[05:24] <pleia2> always is
[05:25] <philipballew> haha, interesting.
[05:34] <pleia2> philipballew: ok, over here
[05:34] <pleia2> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/MeetingChecklist
[05:34] <philipballew> okay!
[05:34] <pleia2> ^^ need to do that stuff
[05:34] <pleia2> under "Shortly after the meeting"
[05:35]  * philipballew reads
[05:37] <philipballew> that seems doable and something I can do pleia2
[05:37] <pleia2> :D
[05:37] <pleia2> I was going to do it this evening, so if you want to do it for this past meeting please do, and let me know if you have questions
[05:37] <pleia2> when I copy the logs in I usually pull them from the proper date on irclogs.ubuntu.com .txt file because the formatting is right
[05:38] <philipballew> alright. I was unable to be at the last meeting.  is that okay?
[05:38] <pleia2> so: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/03/12/%23ubuntu-us-ca.txt
[05:38] <pleia2> yep, all logs are there :)
[05:40] <pleia2> 2:08 to 2:25 is the meeting
[05:40] <pleia2> short!
[05:40] <philipballew> alright. Ill have a go at it tonight!
[05:41] <philipballew> pleia2, all you need now is a few days after?
[05:43] <pleia2> philipballew: I like to get it done within a few days of the meeting
[05:43] <philipballew> okay, but what stuff on the list has already been done?
[05:43] <pleia2> nothing
[05:43] <pleia2> oh
[05:43] <pleia2> I misunderstood your question
[05:44] <pleia2> you were talking about the "A Few Days After the Meeting" section
[05:44] <pleia2> we haven't done meeting summaries in years :(
[05:45] <pleia2> we keep them on the page because it would be nice, but we don't really have the volunteer power for it
[05:45] <philipballew> oh. Well I can attempt to do it if its only a few paragraphs.
[05:45] <pleia2> right now we need "Shortly After the Meeting" done
[05:45] <philipballew> put libreoffice to work
[05:45] <philipballew> okay, ill do shortly after
[05:46] <philipballew> I saw someone with libreOffice on their macbook and said I like that your using LibreOffice. They then took it as in insult saying "well were not all rich and can afford Microsoft office"
[05:47] <pleia2> hah, oops
[05:47] <philipballew> haha, what are you goona do
[05:52] <philipballew> pleia2, what does
[05:52] <philipballew> Post meeting log (without joins, parts, or quits) to meeting page. Add ||<<Include(CaliforniaTeam/Menu)>>|| to the top of the page. Remove the "Your Agenda Item Here" and "We hope to see you..." lines. Change the "Agenda" heading to "Original Agenda".
[05:52] <philipballew> mean?
[05:52] <philipballew> I guess I should ask, what meeting page are we talking about?
[05:53] <philipballew> the past weeks or next meeting?
[05:54] <pleia2> the one yesterday
[05:55] <pleia2> so the page you want to edit and add the log to is: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/12March11
[05:57] <philipballew> pleia2, hows that look https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/12March11#preview
[05:57] <pleia2> philipballew: perfect :)
[05:57] <philipballew> nice!
[05:58] <philipballew> do I have the power to run a /topic command pleia2 ?
[05:59] <philipballew> your in luck pleia2 , I had to learn how to change the topic in irc 2 days ago
[06:00] <pleia2> go for it :)
[06:01] <pleia2> \o/
[06:01] <pleia2> now: /mode -o philipballew
[06:04] <philipballew> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Menu
[06:05] <pleia2> you'll want to create a page for the next meeting and link it there
[06:05] <pleia2> well, next after march 325th
[06:05] <pleia2> 12April08
[06:05] <philipballew> alright. I can do that.
[06:07] <pleia2> preview is your friend :)
[06:07] <philipballew> the page looks really nice now!
[06:07] <pleia2> remove the || after March25
[06:09] <philipballew> looks better
[06:11] <pleia2> great
[06:11] <philipballew> How do you create a wiki page for the april 8th meeting? Just load the link till it says create a new empty page I guess.
[06:11] <pleia2> yep
[06:12] <pleia2> they copy the content from March25
[06:12] <pleia2> and adjust the date
[06:12] <philipballew> awesome :)
[06:21] <philipballew> pleia2, when making a new event on the wiki do I add make a meeting minutes link even though there is no meeting minutes yet?
[06:22] <pleia2> on the loco.ubuntu.com you mean?
[06:22] <pleia2> or..?
[06:23] <philipballew> when making a new event like this one http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-california/359/detail/ What should I put for meeting logs?
[06:23] <pleia2> ah, nothing yet
[06:24] <philipballew> okay. ill leave it blank
[06:25] <philipballew> all looks good!!!
[06:25] <pleia2> I've been adding a single "Agenda item" saying the agenda is on the wiki, like this: http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-california/359/detail/
[06:26] <pleia2> philipballew: oops, had April 8th on the brain :) forums post should mention March 25th
[06:26] <pleia2> (you can edit it)
[06:26] <philipballew> pleia2, my bad
[06:26] <pleia2> elizabeth@coruscant:~$ task delete 30
[06:26] <pleia2> Permanently delete task 30 'post california meeting tasks'? (y/n) y
[06:26] <pleia2> Deleting task 30 'post california meeting tasks
[06:26] <pleia2> yay!
[06:26] <pleia2> thanks philipballew :)
[06:28] <philipballew> thats something I can do every other week. Its its like Tuesday and I have forgotten about it hust shoot me a stern email saying to get my rear in gear or something
[06:28] <philipballew> *if its
[06:29] <philipballew> s/hust/just
[06:29] <pleia2> that would be wonderful
[06:29] <philipballew> man im out of it
[06:29] <pleia2> hehe
[06:30]  * pleia2 searches for the numlock key
[06:30] <pleia2> hrm
[06:30] <philipballew> worked 6 hours today and 3 hours of classes. all day, everyday
[06:30] <pleia2> heh, fun
[06:31] <philipballew> Life is overrated. I should just crawl under a blanket and sleep all day :)
[06:31] <pleia2> lol
[06:32] <pleia2> ah, there it is
[06:32] <pleia2> I do that sometimes, but usually it means I'm sick ;)
[06:36] <pleia2> my laptop can play flash videos, fancy!
[06:36] <pleia2> (my mini9 kind of dies when I try, plus the speakers don't work anymore)
[12:51] <DonkeyHotei> "*Global Notice* You may shortly experience a slight disturbance. We are testing some new mood enhancing drugs on the IRCd. If you feel happy and a bit woozy, please give the drugs back to us. They're for the servers, not you"
[22:05] <pleia2> any unity users around? using 12.04 and even when I maximize windows the launcher stays open, do I need to install CCSM still to adjust this behavior?
[22:06] <pleia2> (I think it's actually misbehaving at the moment, by default it should go away I think)
[22:06] <broder> no, that's the new default behavior
[22:06] <pleia2> oh, good to know
[22:07] <broder> you have some ability to adjust it through ccsm, but i don't think you can bring back the oneiric behavior
[22:07] <broder> (i think it either always shows, or always autohides - there's no autohide only if there's a window that wants that space)
[22:07] <pleia2> always autohide would be grand
[22:07] <philipballew_> its a bug afaik pleia2. On my system as well.
[22:08] <pleia2> but ccsm is the proper way to adjust?
[22:08] <broder> uh...it is *a* way to adjust :)
[22:08] <broder> i don't know how you're supposed to adjust it
[22:08] <pleia2> well I didn't know if there was some magic settings menu by default I should use :)
[22:08]  * pleia2 holds down super key and cheers
[22:08]  * broder should upgrade to precise
[22:08] <pleia2> so brilliant
[22:08] <pleia2> gives you shortcuts!
[22:09] <philipballew_> its the best!
[22:09] <broder> the numeric shortcuts? it's always done that
[22:09] <broder> it's the single best thing about unity
[22:09] <pleia2> broder: it brings up a window with tons of shortcuts details
[22:09] <philipballew_> ccsm gets it done, but many people dont like it.
[22:09] <broder> ooh, cool. i'll try to upgrade today or tomorrow
[22:10] <pleia2> when I booted up, just a quick click on super opened the dash, but it doesn't anymore
[22:11] <broder> i guess i can go ahead and upgrade my work desktop since i'm not using it right now
[22:28] <pleia2> autohide++
[22:30] <philipballew_> Does anyone know where I would place a script to run when I login?
[22:33] <bkerensa> wherever you want?
[22:33] <bkerensa> :D
[22:33] <broder> Super -> Startup Applications
[22:38] <dragon> Start Menu > Program Files > Startup
[22:38] <dragon> or, Start Menu > Program Files > All Users > Startup
[22:38] <dragon> something like that. :P
[22:52] <philipballew_> bkerensa, well Id need to script to run without me doing anything
[22:53] <philipballew_> or just place the script somewhere and point to it somehow
[22:53] <pleia2> I have a bin/ directory in my home
[22:54] <pleia2> but it doesn't matter where you put it really
[22:57] <philipballew_> pleia2, I need to point to it in some system file correct though?
[22:57] <philipballew_> or just placing a /bin would work as well
[22:57] <pleia2> philipballew_: system file? when you run it you need to give the full path
[22:58] <akk> It's safest to give the full path when you're running it from a script.
[22:58] <pleia2> when you go to "Add" something in the "Startup Application Preferences" one of the fields is Command:
[22:58] <philipballew_> pleia2, I know that. Its a script to automatically connect to a server somewhere. I was wanting it to run each time I login
[22:58] <philipballew_> Its headless
[22:59] <pleia2> oh
[22:59] <pleia2> I thought this was a desktop
[22:59] <philipballew_> no, sorry :)
[22:59] <akk> Wait, what's headless? The machine you're logging into?
[23:00] <philipballew_> no. the machine im placing the script on. Both machines are technically though
[23:01] <akk> They're different? You want to log in to machine A and have that cause a script to run on machine B?
[23:01] <philipballew_> I want to login to headless desktop (a) and have a script to run that telnets into a server
[23:02] <philipballew_> as soon as i login
[23:02] <akk> But the script will be running on A, telnetting into B, right?
[23:02] <philipballew_> yes akk :)
[23:02] <akk> In that case you can put it in .profile on A (bash uses .profile, right?)
[23:03] <philipballew_> I think so, Its technically not a bash script. Its expect script. Is that bad?
[23:03] <akk> From your .profile or .bash_profile you can run a script that's in any language.
[23:04] <philipballew_> would I need to include #!/usr/bin/expect -f though?
[23:04] <akk> The .profile would have a command just like whatever you'd use to run it from the command line, e.g. myscript or /home/myname/bin/myscript or whatever.
[23:04] <philipballew_> ah. I see
[23:05] <philipballew_> and place the script in anyplace I want
[23:05] <akk> Yes, either that or put a line in .profile like: expect /home/myname/bin/myscript (if that's how you'd run an expect script, I'm not actually sure).
[23:05] <akk> Right, the script can go anywhere, as long as bash knows how to find it when it reaches that line in .profile.
[23:06] <pleia2> I'd probably use .bashrc instead (that's where I put all custom stuff, it runs at the beginning of .profile by default)
[23:07] <pleia2> but I don't actually know why both .profile and bashrc exist
[23:07]  * pleia2 asks the internet
[23:07] <philipballew_> well I can run the script via ./path/to/script from bash. I can just add that line to .bashrc.
[23:07] <philipballew_> Would the script run though before network connections are made?
[23:14] <akk> I wouldn't use .bashrc -- that runs when you run a subshell as well as when you log in.
[23:14] <akk> So even when you run scripts and such, things in .bashrc might run.
[23:16] <pleia2> yeah, I don't know what an Ubuntu server looks like, but on the desktop the first thing .profile does is source in .bashrc
[23:16] <pleia2> which was throwing me :)
[23:16] <akk> If you log in to your desktop and run 3 terminal windows, .bashrc gets run three times.
[23:16] <pleia2> .profile is interactive, .bashrc is not
[23:17] <akk> .profile might get run three times if you specify login-shell in your terminal client (not sure if gnome-terminal allows that)
[23:17] <akk> Right, profile is intended for interactive login shells.
[23:18] <pleia2> I learned something new today :)
[23:18] <pleia2> (well, aside from this unity stuff)
[23:18] <philipballew_> so I should place it in profile?
[23:18] <pleia2> philipballew_: I wouldn't use ./path/to/file
[23:19] <pleia2> if it's a bash script I'd use: bash /path/too/file
[23:19] <akk> or expect /path/to/file since it's an expect script
[23:19] <pleia2> the ./ syntax for running things doesn't tend to work in scripts (I don't know about profile specifically, but I tend to go on the side of caution)
[23:19] <akk> or just put the #!/usr/bin/expect at the beginning
[23:19] <philipballew_> hum. I did get it working by placing it in the bashrc with a ./
[23:20] <philipballew_> but maybe its a bad idea to leave it there
[23:20] <akk> ./ might work, but you'd need to be sure what directory bash is in when you hit that line
[23:20] <pleia2> akk was right, you want .profile rather than .bashrc
[23:20] <akk> which is probably ~ but I'm not sure I'd want to count on it.
[23:21] <akk> Much better to specify ~/ or $HOME/ or /home/yourname/ if that's what you want
[23:21] <philipballew_> I can move it if I need, just because it works now, doesnt mean it will? The only point if this thing is to connect to a server and have a shell open