| Kilos | morning superfly and others | 08:06 |
|---|---|---|
| superfly | morning oom Kilos! | 08:08 |
| inetpro | good mornings everyone, plus kilos & superfly | 08:13 |
| Kilos | lol hiya inetpro | 08:14 |
| superfly | heya inetpro | 08:14 |
| Superhuman | I see za.archive.ubuntu.com is down... | 08:28 |
| Kilos | eina. hi Superhuman | 08:28 |
| tumbleweed | Superhuman: the admins know | 08:30 |
| Kilos | hi tumbleweed | 08:34 |
| Kilos | you are in the developement side hey tumbleweed . can you talk to someone about integrating debdelta into ubuntu. it is in the repos but cant run even though it is installed | 08:37 |
| tumbleweed | Kilos: there was talk of that at the last UDS, IIRC | 08:47 |
| tumbleweed | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-o-debdelta | 08:48 |
| tumbleweed | audio recording: http://mirrors.tumbleweed.org.za/uds-o/2011-05-10-09-55-foundations-o-debdelta.ogg | 08:49 |
| Kilos | would have saved me a months data or more on my maverick | 08:50 |
| Kilos | googled for days without finding a how to that i can understand | 08:51 |
| tumbleweed | so, it's in progress, but will probably still take a while | 08:51 |
| Kilos | ty tumbleweed | 08:51 |
| Kilos | the launchpad guys just say install a later release | 08:57 |
| tumbleweed | where? | 08:57 |
| Kilos | sec | 08:57 |
| Kilos | https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debdelta/+question/190255 | 08:58 |
| tumbleweed | ok, that guy isn't launchpad | 09:01 |
| tumbleweed | he was saying that because maverick was about to go out of support | 09:01 |
| Kilos | ah. i felt like kicking him | 09:01 |
| Kilos | lol | 09:01 |
| tumbleweed | he's right, though | 09:01 |
| tumbleweed | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases | 09:01 |
| Kilos | yeah | 09:02 |
| tumbleweed | apparently za.archive is back up | 09:02 |
| superfly | yay | 09:06 |
| superfly | tumbleweed: Mollom has definitely solved our spam problem | 09:06 |
| tumbleweed | \o/ | 09:07 |
| * tumbleweed still gets one every few days with mollom | 09:08 | |
| sakhi | is Vodacom up? | 09:50 |
| sakhi | must be my fone | 09:51 |
| Kilos | eish | 09:51 |
| Kilos | reboot the thing sakhi | 09:54 |
| Kilos | might just be the local voda tower thats down | 10:03 |
| nlsthzn | o7 | 11:42 |
| superfly | o7? | 13:13 |
| nlsthzn | superfly, yes, it is like o/ but a salute like in the army - o7 | 13:31 |
| superfly | ah right | 13:32 |
| magespawn | good afternoon all | 13:42 |
| === magespawn_ is now known as magespawn | ||
| magespawn | gc_ coffee | 14:02 |
| gc_ | magespawn: What? | 14:02 |
| magespawn | ibid coffee is served with pastry | 14:03 |
| magespawn | gc_ coffee is served with pastry | 14:03 |
| gc_ | magespawn: One learns a new thing every day | 14:03 |
| magespawn | gc_ what is coffee served with | 14:03 |
| gc_ | magespawn: Not a clue, sorry | 14:03 |
| magespawn | gc_ what is coffee served with? | 14:03 |
| gc_ | magespawn: Erk, dunno | 14:03 |
| magespawn | gc_ what is coffee? | 14:04 |
| gc_ | magespawn: coffee is served with pastry | 14:04 |
| magespawn | gc_ coffee for magespawn | 14:04 |
| gc_ | magespawn: Huh? | 14:04 |
| magespawn | gc_ coffee on | 14:05 |
| * gc_ washes some mugs | 14:05 | |
| magespawn | Maaz say hit to gc_ | 14:06 |
| Maaz | hit to gc_ | 14:06 |
| magespawn | Maaz say hi to gc_ | 14:06 |
| Maaz | hi to gc_ | 14:06 |
| Kilos | sorry tumbleweed . does that mean one cant get debdelta to work until launchpad has done something there? | 15:30 |
| Kilos | must there be a debdelta sever or whatever by them? | 15:31 |
| tumbleweed | Kilos: there's currently no debdelta server that I know of | 15:34 |
| Kilos | thats what i am trying to understand. must there be one before debdelta can work. as in it cant be made to work from ones pc? | 15:35 |
| tumbleweed | yes, you need to get the deltas from somewhere | 15:38 |
| Kilos | oh ok ty. i was under the impression that it would just see whats on one machine and compare and download the diffs | 15:39 |
| tumbleweed | yes | 15:40 |
| tumbleweed | someone needs to provide the diffs | 15:40 |
| Kilos | ty tumbleweed | 15:41 |
| Kilos | lol i even tried debhelper to get it going | 15:45 |
| tumbleweed | debhelper is a packaging tool (used in almost every package's buliding) | 15:45 |
| Kilos | i read somewhere that it integrates the package so tried that. didnt know it has to be done at launchpad | 15:49 |
| Kilos | live and learn | 15:49 |
| tumbleweed | well, anyone can host a debdelta server | 15:49 |
| tumbleweed | there might be one for ubuntu somewhere... | 15:50 |
| Kilos | gc_, coffee on | 16:23 |
| * gc_ washes some mugs | 16:23 | |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee on | 16:23 |
| * Maaz washes some mugs | 16:23 | |
| Kilos | hehe | 16:23 |
| gc_ | Coffee's ready for Kilos! | 16:27 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos! | 16:27 |
| Kilos | Maaz, ty | 16:27 |
| Maaz | You are welcome Kilos | 16:27 |
| Kilos | gc_, ty | 16:28 |
| gc_ | Kilos: *blink* | 16:28 |
| Kilos | lol | 16:28 |
| Kilos | stupid bot | 16:28 |
| Kilos | yo kbmonkey | 17:30 |
| kbmonkey | yo Kilos | 17:40 |
| Kilos | hi KlaasKaas | 17:40 |
| Kilos | never seen you before KlaasKaas | 17:41 |
| Kilos | hows things kbmonkey | 17:41 |
| KlaasKaas | lol no | 17:41 |
| KlaasKaas | not with this nick anyway | 17:41 |
| Kilos | lol what was the other one | 17:41 |
| KlaasKaas | argh | 17:41 |
| KlaasKaas | settings are screwed up somehow it seems | 17:42 |
| Kilos | settings for? | 17:42 |
| KlaasKaas | xchat | 17:42 |
| Kilos | what is/was youre other nick KlaasKaas | 17:43 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 17:43 |
| Kilos | his xchat is very sick | 17:48 |
| dLimit | Should be using irssi | 17:49 |
| Kilos | no man xchat rocks | 17:49 |
| dLimit | One cannot run xchat in screen | 17:50 |
| Kilos | ? in screen | 17:50 |
| dLimit | man screen | 17:51 |
| dLimit | Screen is a full-screen window manager that multiplexes a physical ter‐ minal between several processes (typically interactive shells). | 17:51 |
| dLimit | ^^ from the man | 17:51 |
| Kilos | oh they terminal windows | 17:53 |
| dLimit | Yeah like a terminal multiplexer but the great thing is you can run it on a remote computer then ssh into that remote pc and attach that screen session to your local computer. | 17:54 |
| Kilos | dLimit, are you using unity? | 17:54 |
| dLimit | Hell no! | 17:54 |
| Kilos | thats too clever for me | 17:54 |
| dLimit | I'm using fluxbox | 17:55 |
| Kilos | lol | 17:55 |
| kbmonkey | fine Kilos and yourself man? | 17:55 |
| dLimit | I like all the non-mainstream window managers | 17:55 |
| Kilos | good ty kbmonkey | 17:55 |
| kbmonkey | isn't fluxbox based on blackbox? :) | 17:56 |
| kbmonkey | using openbox here | 17:56 |
| dLimit | openbox ftw! Yeah flux and openbox is both based on it I believe | 17:57 |
| kbmonkey | and irssi he he | 17:57 |
| kbmonkey | using PyTyle to turn stacking into tiling wm | 17:58 |
| kbmonkey | oh been trying screen recently, i get it but bet there's a ton I need to learn | 17:59 |
| dLimit | I need to use PyTyle. I just recently switched back to flux from Awesome-de so I got kinda use to tiling | 18:00 |
| kbmonkey | pytyle has xmonad like navigation | 18:01 |
| kbmonkey | aaah I see, I closed my ssh connection and my irssi still runs. cool =D | 18:03 |
| kbmonkey | you can get a shell account at bshellz.net. ssh in gives you mutt, irssi, public_html | 18:04 |
| Kilos | dLimit, how do you start irssi to here? | 18:04 |
| kbmonkey | like kbmonkey.bshells.net | 18:04 |
| Kilos | dont say man irssi | 18:05 |
| kbmonkey | he he, you don't dig mans do you :p | 18:05 |
| Kilos | lol they hard to understand man | 18:06 |
| kbmonkey | you enter commands like '/server irc.freenode.org' | 18:06 |
| Kilos | looks like its a bit job to get irssi going | 18:06 |
| kbmonkey | or edit its config to auto connect and join channels | 18:06 |
| kbmonkey | not really | 18:07 |
| kbmonkey | you edit ~/.irssi/config | 18:08 |
| Kilos | ok i have a look | 18:08 |
| dLimit | Yeah there are mainly 3 commands /network, /server and channel | 18:09 |
| Kilos | gedit opened 2 pages edit and conf | 18:11 |
| Kilos | both empty | 18:11 |
| kbmonkey | dLimit: do you auto identify or enter your irc login manually? | 18:11 |
| Kilos | maybe i need to run it once first | 18:11 |
| kbmonkey | run it first | 18:11 |
| dLimit | No, identify with the -autosendcmd flag to /network | 18:11 |
| kbmonkey | i did a diff on my config vs master | 18:11 |
| dLimit | I connecto to 4 different servers | 18:12 |
| kbmonkey | also use autosend. just wondering about keeping the paswd in the config file | 18:12 |
| dLimit | I mean networks | 18:12 |
| Kilos | this is what i gotta do to run it hey | 18:12 |
| Kilos | irssi [-dv!?] [-c server] [-p port] [-n nickname] [-w password] [-h | 18:12 |
| Kilos | hostname] | 18:12 |
| kbmonkey | just enter irssi | 18:13 |
| Kilos | i did | 18:13 |
| Kilos | blank window | 18:13 |
| dLimit | Kilos: use the -c and -n flag | 18:14 |
| Kilos | cursor flashing next to staus at the bottom | 18:14 |
| dLimit | irssi -c irc.freenode.net -n Kilos | 18:14 |
| Kilos | ok | 18:14 |
| dLimit | you will have to identify manually after that | 18:14 |
| kbmonkey | Kilos: /server irc.freenode.org | 18:15 |
| Kilos | Irssi: Your nick is owned by Cake [~Pie@patter.me.uk] | 18:16 |
| Kilos | they lie i registered it to me long ago | 18:16 |
| * Kilos eats cake | 18:16 | |
| kbmonkey | ha ha. | 18:16 |
| kbmonkey | you probably did not set a nick. its using the default. | 18:17 |
| kbmonkey | you made it! :D | 18:17 |
| Kilos | lol ya with a long tail | 18:17 |
| kbmonkey | like a monkey | 18:17 |
| Kilos | ha ha ha | 18:18 |
| Kilos | now gotta work out how to kill cake | 18:18 |
| Kilos | the thief | 18:18 |
| Kilos | i dunno how he can have my nick if its registered to me | 18:19 |
| kbmonkey | i doubt he has | 18:20 |
| Kilos | i go off xchat and see if i can get me back | 18:21 |
| Kilos | grrr | 18:21 |
| kbmonkey | use "/nick Kilos" | 18:21 |
| === miles___ is now known as Kilos | ||
| Kilos | there we go | 18:22 |
| Kilos | this is like weechat | 18:23 |
| kbmonkey | yes its is hey | 18:23 |
| kbmonkey | weechat is probably easier to configure | 18:23 |
| kbmonkey | irssi is more brainy | 18:23 |
| Kilos | there is still nothing in that conf file | 18:24 |
| Kilos | do i just add the commands i used to get here? | 18:25 |
| kbmonkey | config | 18:25 |
| kbmonkey | no, it has a certain structure | 18:25 |
| kbmonkey | perhaps if you exit it writes the config out | 18:25 |
| Kilos | lol ok i try | 18:26 |
| kbmonkey | i used a tut | 18:26 |
| kbmonkey | to config irssi | 18:26 |
| Kilos | whats a tut | 18:26 |
| kbmonkey | tutorial | 18:26 |
| Kilos | oh like a how to | 18:26 |
| Kilos | exit | 18:28 |
| kbmonkey | yes like a howto | 18:30 |
| kbmonkey | try /quit :) | 18:30 |
| kbmonkey | or /quit <optional quit message> | 18:30 |
| Kilos_ | haha now it tells me my nick is owned by miles | 18:30 |
| Kilos_ | cake got eaten | 18:31 |
| kbmonkey | yes, the other miles he he | 18:31 |
| Kilos_ | this isnt lekker like xchat | 18:31 |
| Kilos_ | oh kbmonkey debdelta must first be integrated by launchpad | 18:33 |
| kbmonkey | its different for sure | 18:33 |
| kbmonkey | at least its easier than using telnet for irc ;) | 18:33 |
| Kilos_ | they been discussing it since 10.04 | 18:34 |
| Kilos_ | yeah its like weechat but more serious geek oriented than xchat | 18:34 |
| Kilos_ | hi mage | 18:34 |
| Kilos_ | grr | 18:34 |
| magespawn | Howdy | 18:34 |
| Kilos_ | this doesnt show who is online or anything | 18:35 |
| kbmonkey | it has the advantage of not needing X to run | 18:35 |
| Kilos_ | lol | 18:35 |
| kbmonkey | so you can ssh into a server, and use irc without windows | 18:35 |
| Kilos_ | me dunno ssh | 18:36 |
| kbmonkey | it does, it shows you the users list when you join a channel. and you get addon scripts that show a user bar | 18:36 |
| * kbmonkey doesnt use the user list even in xchat | 18:36 | |
| magespawn | Secure Shell | 18:36 |
| Kilos_ | ah i did man | 18:37 |
| dLimit | type /names to see who is online | 18:37 |
| Kilos_ | ssh — OpenSSH SSH client (remote login program) | 18:37 |
| magespawn | What program is that? | 18:37 |
| Kilos_ | irssi magespawn | 18:37 |
| magespawn | Cli chat? | 18:37 |
| kbmonkey | with ssh it looks like you are using gnome-terminal Kilos_, but your commands are run on another computer | 18:37 |
| Kilos_ | yeah cli chat | 18:38 |
| magespawn | No GUI? | 18:38 |
| magespawn | Cool | 18:38 |
| magespawn | Very light then. | 18:38 |
| kbmonkey | indeed | 18:38 |
| kbmonkey | like weechat, think maya uses weechat | 18:38 |
| kbmonkey | maia* | 18:38 |
| Kilos_ | yes she does | 18:39 |
| magespawn | Brb just putting fish one to sleep. | 18:39 |
| Kilos_ | lol | 18:39 |
| kbmonkey | lol | 18:39 |
| Kilos_ | grr theres still nothing in that config file | 18:42 |
| Kilos- | ah this looks better | 18:44 |
| Kilos- | gc_, coffee on | 18:46 |
| * gc_ flips the salt-timer | 18:46 | |
| kbmonkey | what is that config file path Kilos- ? | 18:47 |
| Kilos- | sudo gedit edit ~/.irssi/config | 18:47 |
| === Kilos- is now known as Kilos | ||
| kbmonkey | you dont need to sudo files in your own home Kilos :D | 18:48 |
| Kilos | oh there be an extra edit in | 18:48 |
| kbmonkey | ha ha | 18:48 |
| Kilos | its still empty | 18:49 |
| gc_ | Coffee's ready for Kilos-! | 18:50 |
| kbmonkey | gc_: | 18:51 |
| gc_ | kbmonkey: What? | 18:51 |
| kbmonkey | gc_: who are you? | 18:51 |
| gc_ | kbmonkey: I'm afraid I have no idea | 18:51 |
| Kilos | gc_, ty | 18:51 |
| gc_ | Enjoy Kilos Just dont make a habit of it ok? | 18:51 |
| Kilos | lol you dunno kbmonkey | 18:51 |
| Kilos | when Maaz was dead mage made it as a standby | 18:52 |
| Kilos | you miss all the fun | 18:52 |
| kbmonkey | have a gn all | 18:58 |
| Kilos | night kbmonkey sleep tight | 18:58 |
| psydroid | gn kbmonkey | 18:58 |
| psydroid | hi Kilos | 18:58 |
| kbmonkey | may be back later | 18:58 |
| Kilos | hi psydroid | 18:58 |
| kbmonkey | just gotta get offline a bit | 18:58 |
| Kilos | ok kbmonkey | 18:58 |
| magespawn | Back again | 19:20 |
| Kilos | magespawn, wb | 19:20 |
| magespawn | Just waking up again fell asleep next to the kid | 19:21 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:23 |
| Kilos | trying to conf irssi. be back later if i dont fall asleep | 19:24 |
| magespawn | Doesbi | 19:25 |
| magespawn | Does it not build its own config file? | 19:26 |
| dLimit | Hmm yes it does... | 19:27 |
| superfly | I'm not sure if it is persistent unless you specifically write it though | 19:37 |
| Kilos | hehe i be learning but oh so slowly | 19:44 |
| magespawn | That was quite quick. | 19:45 |
| Kilos | managed to open a .gz file in /usr/share/doc/irssi* | 19:45 |
| Kilos | no im on xchat again. need to read and hopefully understand how to configure irssi to come here with a simple command | 19:46 |
| Kilos | aw tells me how good it is but no more | 19:49 |
| Kilos | grrr | 19:49 |
| Kilos | night all. see yous tomorrow | 19:50 |
| Kilos | sleep tight | 19:50 |
| magespawn | I am also off. G'night all. | 20:13 |
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