[08:06] <Kilos> morning superfly and others
[08:08] <superfly> morning oom Kilos!
[08:13] <inetpro> good mornings everyone, plus kilos & superfly
[08:14] <Kilos> lol hiya inetpro 
[08:14] <superfly> heya inetpro
[08:28] <Superhuman> I see za.archive.ubuntu.com is down...
[08:28] <Kilos> eina. hi Superhuman 
[08:30] <tumbleweed> Superhuman: the admins know
[08:34] <Kilos> hi tumbleweed 
[08:37] <Kilos> you are in the developement side hey tumbleweed . can you talk to someone about integrating debdelta into ubuntu. it is in the repos but cant run even though it is installed
[08:47] <tumbleweed> Kilos: there was talk of that at the last UDS, IIRC
[08:48] <tumbleweed> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-o-debdelta
[08:49] <tumbleweed> audio recording: http://mirrors.tumbleweed.org.za/uds-o/2011-05-10-09-55-foundations-o-debdelta.ogg
[08:50] <Kilos> would have saved me a months data or more on my maverick
[08:51] <Kilos> googled for days without finding a how to that i can understand
[08:51] <tumbleweed> so, it's in progress, but will probably still take a while
[08:51] <Kilos> ty tumbleweed 
[08:57] <Kilos> the launchpad guys just say install a later release
[08:57] <tumbleweed> where?
[08:57] <Kilos> sec
[08:58] <Kilos> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debdelta/+question/190255
[09:01] <tumbleweed> ok, that guy isn't launchpad
[09:01] <tumbleweed> he was saying that because maverick was about to go out of support
[09:01] <Kilos> ah. i felt like kicking him
[09:01] <Kilos> lol
[09:01] <tumbleweed> he's right, though
[09:01] <tumbleweed> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[09:02] <Kilos> yeah
[09:02] <tumbleweed> apparently za.archive is back up
[09:06] <superfly> yay
[09:06] <superfly> tumbleweed: Mollom has definitely solved our spam problem
[09:07] <tumbleweed> \o/
[09:08]  * tumbleweed still gets one every few days with mollom
[09:50] <sakhi> is Vodacom up?
[09:51] <sakhi> must be my fone
[09:51] <Kilos> eish
[09:54] <Kilos> reboot the thing sakhi 
[10:03] <Kilos> might just be the local voda tower thats down
[11:42] <nlsthzn> o7
[13:13] <superfly> o7?
[13:31] <nlsthzn> superfly, yes, it is like o/ but a salute like in the army - o7
[13:32] <superfly> ah right
[13:42] <magespawn> good afternoon all
[14:02] <magespawn> gc_ coffee
[14:02] <gc_> magespawn: What?
[14:03] <magespawn> ibid coffee is served with pastry
[14:03] <magespawn> gc_ coffee is served with pastry
[14:03] <gc_> magespawn: One learns a new thing every day
[14:03] <magespawn> gc_ what is coffee served with
[14:03] <gc_> magespawn: Not a clue, sorry
[14:03] <magespawn> gc_ what is coffee served with?
[14:03] <gc_> magespawn: Erk, dunno
[14:04] <magespawn> gc_ what is coffee?
[14:04] <gc_> magespawn: coffee is served with pastry
[14:04] <magespawn> gc_ coffee for magespawn
[14:04] <gc_> magespawn: Huh?
[14:05] <magespawn> gc_ coffee on
[14:05]  * gc_ washes some mugs
[14:06] <magespawn> Maaz say hit to gc_
[14:06] <Maaz> hit to gc_
[14:06] <magespawn> Maaz say hi to gc_
[14:06] <Maaz> hi to gc_
[15:30] <Kilos> sorry tumbleweed . does that mean one cant get debdelta to work until launchpad has done something there?
[15:31] <Kilos> must there be a debdelta sever or whatever by them?
[15:34] <tumbleweed> Kilos: there's currently no debdelta server that I know of
[15:35] <Kilos> thats what i am trying to understand. must there be one before debdelta can work. as in it cant be made to work from ones pc?
[15:38] <tumbleweed> yes, you need to get the deltas from somewhere
[15:39] <Kilos> oh ok ty. i was under the impression that it would just see whats on one machine and compare and download the diffs
[15:40] <tumbleweed> yes
[15:40] <tumbleweed> someone needs to provide the diffs
[15:41] <Kilos> ty tumbleweed 
[15:45] <Kilos> lol i even tried debhelper to get it going
[15:45] <tumbleweed> debhelper is a packaging tool (used in almost every package's buliding)
[15:49] <Kilos> i read somewhere that it integrates the package so tried that. didnt know it has to be done at launchpad
[15:49] <Kilos> live and learn
[15:49] <tumbleweed> well, anyone can host a debdelta server
[15:50] <tumbleweed> there might be one for ubuntu somewhere...
[16:23] <Kilos> gc_, coffee on
[16:23]  * gc_ washes some mugs
[16:23] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[16:23]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[16:23] <Kilos> hehe
[16:27] <gc_> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[16:27] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[16:27] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[16:27] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[16:28] <Kilos> gc_, ty
[16:28] <gc_> Kilos: *blink*
[16:28] <Kilos> lol
[16:28] <Kilos> stupid bot
[17:30] <Kilos> yo kbmonkey 
[17:40] <kbmonkey> yo Kilos 
[17:40] <Kilos> hi KlaasKaas 
[17:41] <Kilos> never seen you before KlaasKaas 
[17:41] <Kilos> hows things kbmonkey 
[17:41] <KlaasKaas> lol no
[17:41] <KlaasKaas> not with this nick anyway
[17:41] <Kilos> lol what was the other one
[17:41] <KlaasKaas> argh
[17:42] <KlaasKaas> settings are screwed up somehow it seems
[17:42] <Kilos> settings for?
[17:42] <KlaasKaas> xchat
[17:43] <Kilos> what is/was youre other nick KlaasKaas 
[17:43] <Kilos> sjoe
[17:48] <Kilos> his xchat is very sick
[17:49] <dLimit> Should be using irssi
[17:49] <Kilos> no man xchat rocks
[17:50] <dLimit> One cannot run xchat in screen
[17:50] <Kilos> ? in screen
[17:51] <dLimit> man screen
[17:51] <dLimit> Screen  is a full-screen window manager that multiplexes a physical ter‐ minal between several processes (typically  interactive  shells).
[17:51] <dLimit> ^^ from the man
[17:53] <Kilos> oh they terminal windows
[17:54] <dLimit> Yeah like a terminal multiplexer but the great thing is you can run it on a remote computer then ssh into that remote pc and attach that screen session to your local computer.
[17:54] <Kilos> dLimit, are you using unity?
[17:54] <dLimit> Hell no!
[17:54] <Kilos> thats too clever for me
[17:55] <dLimit> I'm using fluxbox
[17:55] <Kilos> lol
[17:55] <kbmonkey> fine Kilos and yourself man?
[17:55] <dLimit> I like all the non-mainstream window managers
[17:55] <Kilos> good ty kbmonkey 
[17:56] <kbmonkey> isn't fluxbox based on blackbox? :)
[17:56] <kbmonkey> using openbox here
[17:57] <dLimit> openbox ftw! Yeah flux and openbox is both based on it I believe
[17:57] <kbmonkey> and irssi he he
[17:58] <kbmonkey> using PyTyle to turn stacking into tiling wm
[17:59] <kbmonkey> oh been trying screen recently, i get it but bet there's a ton I need to learn
[18:00] <dLimit> I need to use PyTyle. I just recently switched back to flux from Awesome-de so I got kinda use to tiling
[18:01] <kbmonkey> pytyle has xmonad like navigation
[18:03] <kbmonkey> aaah I see, I closed my ssh connection and my irssi still runs. cool =D
[18:04] <kbmonkey> you can get a shell account at bshellz.net. ssh in gives you mutt, irssi, public_html 
[18:04] <Kilos> dLimit, how do you start irssi to here?
[18:04] <kbmonkey> like kbmonkey.bshells.net
[18:05] <Kilos> dont say man irssi
[18:05] <kbmonkey> he he, you don't dig mans do you :p
[18:06] <Kilos> lol they hard to understand man
[18:06] <kbmonkey> you enter commands like '/server irc.freenode.org'
[18:06] <Kilos> looks like its a bit job to get irssi going
[18:06] <kbmonkey> or edit its config to auto connect and join channels
[18:07] <kbmonkey> not really
[18:08] <kbmonkey> you edit ~/.irssi/config
[18:08] <Kilos> ok i have a look
[18:09] <dLimit> Yeah there are mainly 3 commands /network, /server and channel
[18:11] <Kilos> gedit opened 2 pages edit and conf
[18:11] <Kilos> both empty
[18:11] <kbmonkey> dLimit: do you auto identify or enter your irc login manually?
[18:11] <Kilos> maybe i need to run it once first
[18:11] <kbmonkey> run it first
[18:11] <dLimit> No, identify with the -autosendcmd flag to /network
[18:11] <kbmonkey> i did a diff on my config vs master
[18:12] <dLimit> I connecto to 4 different servers
[18:12] <kbmonkey> also use autosend. just wondering about keeping the paswd in the config file
[18:12] <dLimit> I mean networks
[18:12] <Kilos> this is what i gotta do to run it hey
[18:12] <Kilos>  irssi  [-dv!?]  [-c  server]  [-p port] [-n nickname] [-w password] [-h
[18:12] <Kilos>        hostname]
[18:13] <kbmonkey> just enter irssi 
[18:13] <Kilos> i did
[18:13] <Kilos> blank window
[18:14] <dLimit> Kilos: use the -c and -n flag
[18:14] <Kilos> cursor flashing next to staus at the bottom
[18:14] <dLimit> irssi -c irc.freenode.net -n Kilos
[18:14] <Kilos> ok
[18:14] <dLimit> you will have to identify manually after that
[18:15] <kbmonkey> Kilos: /server irc.freenode.org
[18:16] <Kilos> Irssi: Your nick is owned by Cake [~Pie@patter.me.uk]
[18:16] <Kilos> they lie i registered it to me long ago
[18:16]  * Kilos eats cake
[18:16] <kbmonkey> ha ha. 
[18:17] <kbmonkey> you probably did not set a nick. its using the default.
[18:17] <kbmonkey> you made it! :D
[18:17] <Kilos> lol ya with a long tail
[18:17] <kbmonkey> like a monkey
[18:18] <Kilos> ha ha ha
[18:18] <Kilos> now gotta work out how to kill cake
[18:18] <Kilos> the thief
[18:19] <Kilos> i dunno how he can have my nick if its registered to me
[18:20] <kbmonkey> i doubt he has
[18:21] <Kilos> i go off xchat and see if i can get me back
[18:21] <Kilos> grrr
[18:21] <kbmonkey> use "/nick Kilos"
[18:22] <Kilos> there we go
[18:23] <Kilos> this is like weechat
[18:23] <kbmonkey> yes its is hey
[18:23] <kbmonkey> weechat is probably easier to configure
[18:23] <kbmonkey> irssi is more brainy
[18:24] <Kilos> there is still nothing in that conf file
[18:25] <Kilos> do i just add the commands i used to get here?
[18:25] <kbmonkey> config
[18:25] <kbmonkey> no, it has a certain structure
[18:25] <kbmonkey> perhaps if you exit it writes the config out
[18:26] <Kilos> lol ok i try
[18:26] <kbmonkey> i used a tut
[18:26] <kbmonkey> to config irssi
[18:26] <Kilos> whats a tut
[18:26] <kbmonkey> tutorial
[18:26] <Kilos> oh like a how to
[18:28] <Kilos> exit
[18:30] <kbmonkey> yes like a howto
[18:30] <kbmonkey> try /quit :)
[18:30] <kbmonkey> or /quit <optional quit message>
[18:30] <Kilos_> haha now it tells me my nick is owned by miles
[18:31] <Kilos_> cake got eaten
[18:31] <kbmonkey> yes, the other miles he he
[18:31] <Kilos_> this isnt lekker like xchat
[18:33] <Kilos_> oh kbmonkey debdelta must first be integrated by launchpad
[18:33] <kbmonkey> its different for sure
[18:33] <kbmonkey> at least its easier than using telnet for irc ;)
[18:34] <Kilos_> they been discussing it since 10.04
[18:34] <Kilos_> yeah its like weechat but more serious geek oriented than xchat
[18:34] <Kilos_> hi mage
[18:34] <Kilos_> grr 
[18:34] <magespawn> Howdy
[18:35] <Kilos_> this doesnt show who is online or anything
[18:35] <kbmonkey> it has the advantage of not needing X to run
[18:35] <Kilos_> lol
[18:35] <kbmonkey> so you can ssh into a server, and use irc without windows
[18:36] <Kilos_> me dunno ssh
[18:36] <kbmonkey> it does, it shows you the users list when you join a channel. and you get addon scripts that show a user bar
[18:36]  * kbmonkey doesnt use the user list even in xchat
[18:36] <magespawn> Secure Shell
[18:37] <Kilos_> ah i did man
[18:37] <dLimit> type /names to see who is online
[18:37] <Kilos_> ssh — OpenSSH SSH client (remote login program)
[18:37] <magespawn> What program is that?
[18:37] <Kilos_> irssi magespawn 
[18:37] <magespawn> Cli chat?
[18:37] <kbmonkey> with ssh it looks like you are using gnome-terminal Kilos_, but your commands are run on another computer 
[18:38] <Kilos_> yeah cli chat
[18:38] <magespawn> No GUI?
[18:38] <magespawn> Cool
[18:38] <magespawn>  Very light then.
[18:38] <kbmonkey> indeed
[18:38] <kbmonkey> like weechat, think maya uses weechat
[18:38] <kbmonkey> maia*
[18:39] <Kilos_> yes she does
[18:39] <magespawn> Brb just putting fish one to sleep.
[18:39] <Kilos_> lol
[18:39] <kbmonkey> lol
[18:42] <Kilos_> grr theres still nothing in that config file
[18:44] <Kilos-> ah this looks better
[18:46] <Kilos-> gc_, coffee on
[18:46]  * gc_ flips the salt-timer
[18:47] <kbmonkey> what is that config file path Kilos- ?
[18:47] <Kilos-> sudo gedit edit ~/.irssi/config
[18:48] <kbmonkey> you dont need to sudo files in your own home Kilos :D
[18:48] <Kilos> oh there be an extra edit in
[18:48] <kbmonkey> ha ha
[18:49] <Kilos> its still empty
[18:50] <gc_> Coffee's ready for Kilos-!
[18:51] <kbmonkey> gc_: 
[18:51] <gc_> kbmonkey: What?
[18:51] <kbmonkey> gc_: who are you?
[18:51] <gc_> kbmonkey: I'm afraid I have no idea
[18:51] <Kilos> gc_, ty
[18:51] <gc_> Enjoy Kilos Just dont make a habit of it ok?
[18:51] <Kilos> lol you dunno kbmonkey 
[18:52] <Kilos> when Maaz was dead mage made it as a standby
[18:52] <Kilos> you miss all the fun
[18:58] <kbmonkey> have a gn all
[18:58] <Kilos> night kbmonkey sleep tight
[18:58] <psydroid> gn kbmonkey
[18:58] <psydroid> hi Kilos
[18:58] <kbmonkey> may be back later
[18:58] <Kilos> hi psydroid 
[18:58] <kbmonkey> just gotta get offline a bit
[18:58] <Kilos> ok kbmonkey 
[19:20] <magespawn> Back again
[19:20] <Kilos> magespawn, wb
[19:21] <magespawn> Just waking up again fell asleep next to the kid
[19:23] <Kilos> lol
[19:24] <Kilos> trying to conf irssi. be back later if i dont fall asleep
[19:25] <magespawn> Doesbi
[19:26] <magespawn> Does it not build its own config file?
[19:27] <dLimit> Hmm yes it does...
[19:37] <superfly> I'm not sure if it is persistent unless you specifically write it though
[19:44] <Kilos> hehe i be learning but oh so slowly
[19:45] <magespawn> That was quite quick.
[19:45] <Kilos> managed to open a .gz file in /usr/share/doc/irssi*
[19:46] <Kilos> no im on xchat again. need to read and hopefully understand how to configure irssi to come here with a simple command
[19:49] <Kilos> aw tells me how good it is but no more
[19:49] <Kilos> grrr
[19:50] <Kilos> night all. see yous tomorrow
[19:50] <Kilos> sleep tight
[20:13] <magespawn> I am also off. G'night all.