[00:00] <arand> elijah: He installed the server version, nothing to do with disk space...
[00:00] <Ins|de> nickwiscool, thats normal
[00:00] <nickwiscool> how do i use intenert?
[00:00] <elijah> arand: gotcha
[00:00] <bastidrazor> nickwiscool: 10.10 is not an LTS version
[00:00] <JelloPop> nickwiscool: this is not ubuntu try irc.freenode.net
[00:00] <Ins|de> bastidrazor, lol good point
[00:00] <JelloPop> join ubuntu\
[00:01] <nickwiscool> im no cuuuunfuzed, you must be swindler! i paid many money for ubuntu and your not help
[00:01] <jerry2> elijah> so I have a dedi and I currently have 3 ips assigned to it ( I can connect to my server through them) and I just purchased 3 additional ip's , I need to be able to connect to my server via these 3 new ip's and I have never assigned ips to my server.
[00:01] <JelloPop> nickwiscool: !ubuntu support
[00:01] <arand> JelloPop: You're mistaken...
[00:01] <jerry2> Ubuntu > free software
[00:01] <JelloPop> arand: what mistake?
[00:02] <nickwiscool> i paied 200$ for it! you are swindler :( can i have my moneys back pls?
[00:02] <elijah> jerry2: Did you configure the first 3 IPs?
[00:02] <JKD> jm
[00:02] <JKD> heyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[00:02] <jerry2> no my old system admin did
[00:02] <jerry2> not sure how I can configure them
[00:02] <nickwiscool> i paied 200$ for it! you are swindler :( can i have my moneys back pls?
[00:02] <arand> nickwiscool: No, talk to the person who sold it.
[00:02] <JKD> jerr2 baby
[00:02] <JKD> fuck you
[00:03] <nickwiscool> u sold it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[00:03] <elijah> JKD just told me to F off in private pm, can someone ban him?
[00:03] <Ins|de> nickwiscool, you should stop drinking
[00:03] <JKD> no
[00:03] <JKD> elijah
[00:03] <JKD> :S
[00:03] <JKD> where are you from
[00:03] <JKD> ?
[00:03] <bastidrazor> !ops| pay more attention.
[00:03] <arand> Ins|de: Please don't put anything more on the fire :/
[00:03] <Albania> i cant start my ubuntu and there is the logs http://paste.ubuntu.com/881190/'
[00:03] <JelloPop> nickwiscool: how is that possible? ubuntu is free and if u payed for version there should be 100% support
[00:03] <JKD> elijah
[00:04] <Ins|de> arand, i won't, sorry :)
[00:04] <jerry2> dang just ban this nickwiscool prob just a troll
[00:04] <JKD> yours
[00:04] <JKD> fuckk
[00:04] <JKD> you
[00:04] <JelloPop> jerry2: lol
[00:04] <FloodBot1> JKD: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:04] <JKD> fuck you
[00:04] <pangolin> bastidrazor, when you ping us with | comments that make me want to kick you. IT IS BAD
[00:05] <bastidrazor> pangolin: when ops do not pay attention to this channel.. should they really be ops?
[00:05] <tsimpson> bastidrazor: operators are human, fact of life
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[00:05] <FloodBot1> nickwiscool: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
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[00:05] <pangolin> bastidrazor, We our volunteers, just like you volunteer to help
[00:05] <JelloPop> got to run.... arand we dont support ubuntu do we or do we just help out?
[00:06] <pfifo> what? I heard LjL gets paid to OP, errm oops i wasnt supposed to tell anyone
[00:06] <JelloPop> arand: No matter what system it is do we just help??
[00:06] <arand> JelloPop: This is the #ubuntu channel...
[00:06] <hoshi411_> anyone know how to change font colors in xubuntu?
[00:06] <JelloPop> arand: wrong irssi section srry
[00:06] <JelloPop> loll
[00:06] <elijah> pfifo: How did you remove the line endings with Geany? I try to backspace/delete them and they come back with a fresh CR
[00:07] <hoshi411_> the appearance manager does not give me options for changing system colors
[00:07] <elijah> pfifo: Is it a preference setting?
[00:07] <pfifo> elijah, Document->set line endings
[00:07] <jerry2> elijah did you see my response?
[00:07] <JelloPop> arand: running two different irssi sessions one is linux mint other is ubuntu opsss lmao
[00:07] <elijah> pfifo: Beautiful, thx
[00:07] <hoshi411_> i went into the theme that im using and found the rc file for it but there is no place for colors 0_o
[00:08] <nishttal2> hello everyone.. i just did a fresh install of Ubuntu 11.10 and whenever I try to install something with the Software center i get Package operation failed... http://pastebin.com/ushXXkRB
[00:08] <hoshi411_> this is the one thing that i like about lxde over xfce... the ability to change system colors
[00:08] <nishttal2> anyone have any clue
[00:08] <hoshi411_> i installed lxappearance but that does not work
[00:09] <elijah> jerry2: sorry, got lost in the spam fest, I don't know if I can help you
[00:09] <pfifo> nishttal2, No space left on device you hard disk is full
[00:09] <arand> nishttal2: what is the output of "df -h"
[00:09] <elijah> jerry2: I only have experience setting DNS to point to IPs
[00:09] <elijah> jerry2: You may also try #networking if you can't get help here
[00:10] <elijah> jerry2: Did you run an ifconfig on the server?
[00:10] <jerry2> elijah: alright thanks
[00:10] <nishttal2> pfifo,, hi.. we were talking earlier today and you and others advised me to setup a non-RAID partition for /boot
[00:10] <nishttal2> pfifo, well i assigned 64MB to it.. why is the software center trying to install there
[00:10] <pfifo> jerry2, all you want todo is add more static IPs to a server?
[00:11] <pfifo> nishttal2, its trying to build your initrd, and its building it on /boot
[00:11] <nishttal2> arand, http://pastebin.com/RPVFKNmB
[00:11] <nishttal2> pfifo, should it?
[00:11] <nishttal2> pfifo, if thats the case then /boot should be a lot bigger rt?
[00:11] <arand> nishttal2: That is where linux kernel images go, genereally you'd want 200MB or more
[00:11] <pfifo> nishttal2, it seems reasonable, you might be able to change that behavior
[00:12] <nishttal2> arand, hmm.. would i grow everytime i install something?
[00:12] <jerry2> elijah: looks like i need to add more eth0 , there are currently 3 , eth0 , eth0:0 , eth0:1
[00:12] <nishttal2> arand, would it*
[00:12] <arand> nishttal2: Only when you install a new kernel
[00:13] <whatasunnyday> Hi, I have question that is probably asked way too much. I'm installing Ubuntu on my external SSD. I'm just setting it up now so I can pop it in later when I have more free time. I noticed that a lot of people suggest using logical partitions for Linux. From what I read, I think I want a 20 gb OS installation and a 10 GB home folder. My SSD is 240 gigs so I guess I would use the rest for windows + storage. How exactly do I parti
[00:13] <nishttal2> arand, but I was trying to install XChat.. not a new kernel
[00:13] <arand> nishttal2: You can make sure to remove old kernels, but just 60GB is still a bit small.
[00:13] <whatasunnyday> Do I make a 30 gb extended and two logical?
[00:13] <elijah> Can grep also search filenames, like the find command?
[00:13] <arand> nishttal2: It was likely a semi-automatic update
[00:13] <elijah> jerry2: Yeah, that is an interesting scenario, I am sure it is simple once you know what to do
[00:14] <elijah> jerry2: Are your existing IPs assigned to the eth0/1/2 ?
[00:14] <whatasunnyday> Or do I make two seperate ext4 and set the mount points seperately?
[00:14] <xxx-657922> erver srv.irc.gr
[00:14] <nishttal2> arand, i see so 200MB then?
[00:14] <arand> elijah: Not unless you pipe the output from ls or so, so not really.
[00:14] <pfifo> nishttal2, I suppose you need to iuncrease the size of /boot i couldnt find a configuration option for that, why dont you just make boot 4+GB you have plenty of space
[00:15] <jerry2> elijah: think this does it http://unclean.org/howto/secondip.html
[00:15] <nishttal2> pfifo, arand.. yeah i have plenty of disc space.. but I only want to allocate what would be needed... so 4GB?
[00:15] <arand> nishttal2: pfifo Normally /boot uses about 50MB, I'm guessing that during an upgrade more is required.
[00:16] <elijah> arand: thanks, I just tried ls | and see what you mean
[00:16] <pfifo> nishttal2, 4GB gives plenty of room to prevent future problems regarding diskspace
[00:16] <nishttal2> pfifo, ok thats what i wanted to hear .. ;-).. thanks guys.. see you in an hour
[00:16]  * arand would go with 500MB
[00:16] <elijah> nishttal2: definitely allocate 4x what you think you will need, apt-get stores a lot of stuff by default, stuff grows
[00:16] <diverdude> is there a good place to learn how to build .deb packs?
[00:17] <arand> elijah: not on boot it doesn't....
[00:17] <aicasn> i just updated some packages on my 64-bit 11.10 machine and the UI took a crap after the updates so I rebooted. now I can't get anything but graphical corruption and a frozen machine whenever i boot into ubuntu. anyone else have this problem?
[00:17] <arand> erm.. /boot
[00:17] <elijah> arand: sorry, i thought you were talking about the whole system
[00:17] <whatasunnyday> Maybe I should rephrase my question to be a little less wordy and disorganized.
[00:18] <elijah> jerry2: hopefully
[00:18] <jbrks> This is my processor- http://ark.intel.com/products/spec/SR05S  -- But i do not know what cpuscaling module i should load with it.  Anyone has a link that can tell me?
[00:19] <whatasunnyday> If I want to make my ubuntu partition say, 20 gigs, say 20 for my OS install and 20 for my home folder, how should I seperate the partitions? Should it be 1 40 gb primary with two logical? Or two seperate 20s? What do I set as the mount points?
[00:19] <pfifo> whatasunnyday, 2 20's one on / and the other on /home
[00:19] <jbrks> whatasunnyday, make it easy.. just use 1 "/" and 1 for "swap"
[00:20] <nishttal2> oh one more thing guys.. should i try 12 or stick to 11.10
[00:20] <jbrks> whatasunnyday, minimum u need is 2
[00:20] <nishttal2> i mean there would be bugs.. but is it stable ?
[00:20] <whatasunnyday> should they both be logical?
[00:20] <whatasunnyday> and they both be ext 4?
[00:20] <whatasunnyday> i'm not sure what this begining/end business means
[00:20] <jbrks> whatasunnyday, how many other partitionsare there?
[00:20] <jbrks> whatasunnyday, linux doesnt care if its pri or logical--
[00:20] <pfifo> whatasunnyday, logical/primary makes no difference in ubuntu
[00:20] <whatasunnyday> right now, zero, i would like 40 gigs to ubuntu paritioned into 3, home, os, swap
[00:20] <whatasunnyday> i see
[00:21] <mastj> how do i reset x11 for gnome so It can properly boot right into gdm or w/e?
[00:21] <jbrks> whatasunnyday, a waste of disk space.. simply use "/"
[00:21] <whatasunnyday> make 1 big 40 gb partition jbrks?
[00:22] <jbrks> mastj, by default the latest gdm insn't the login manager installed
[00:22] <nishttal2> how come i cant download version 12 anyone?
[00:22] <pfifo> whatasunnyday, i disagree / and /home on seperate partitions help keep your data safe
[00:22] <jbrks> whatasunnyday, make the swap twice the size of your ram
[00:22] <pfifo> !12.04 | nishttal2
[00:22] <jbrks> whatasunnyday, doesnt make it any safer..
[00:22] <mastj> jbrks, i'm on 10.04... i'm in console mode... tryign to get back to graphics end
[00:23] <jbrks> whatasunnyday, as a beginner make it simple.. just use 2 partitions.. makes it easier to work with
[00:23] <whatasunnyday> i was under the impression that it makes it easier to update
[00:23] <whatasunnyday> jbrks i am actually trying to move up from the beginnner point. i have been using linux for just under a year. using mint exclusivel.
[00:23] <wesley__> How do I play windows wmv movies in ubuntu please?
[00:23] <jbrks> whatasunnyday, there also isnt much speed gain-- its only for server there is speed gain.. (log seperation etc)
[00:23] <whatasunnyday> hmm
[00:23] <whatasunnyday> that makes sense
[00:23] <pfifo> whatasunnyday, if you make 1 big partition you will lose all your personal data when you reinstall, if its on a seprate /home partition you can save it all
[00:24] <exu_> hi, i'm trying to diagnose a hardware issue, using the xubuntu live cd. i have 2 hdd's on a pcie scsi adapter, and although the adapter is showing up in lspci's output, the drives connected to it are not showing up under /dev/sd* or in gparted. any ideas?
[00:24] <jbrks> pfifo, he can install without a wipeout
[00:24] <jbrks> (ubuntu can upgrade)
[00:24] <whatasunnyday> jbrks that's my only concern, upgrades
[00:24] <jbrks> whatasunnyday, i upgrade a 10.x to 11.x -- didnt have issues really
[00:25] <whatasunnyday> i'm using 12.04 beta now
[00:25] <pfifo> in the end its upto you, as you can see, what works for me doesnt work for jbrks and might not work for you either
[00:25] <whatasunnyday> pfifo: for the sake of academics, if i was going to set two partitions, do I set one mount point as '/' and the other as /home
[00:25] <pfifo> whatasunnyday, exactly
[00:25] <whatasunnyday> and is there anything i need to do to "merge" them?
[00:25] <pfifo> whatasunnyday, no
[00:26] <whatasunnyday> okay, if i make two logical ext4, would that be fine?
[00:26] <whatasunnyday> (there are no other partitions on the disc)
[00:26] <jbrks> whatasunnyday, you're wasting time.. because a linux standard desktop usually isnt more than 7 gigs.. and you're throwing it on a 40 gig partition
[00:26] <pfifo> whatasunnyday, i would go primary if you only plan on having 2 partitions
[00:27] <pfifo> whatasunnyday, that is true, i would have a 8g and a 32g for /home
[00:27] <whatasunnyday> hmm
[00:27] <whatasunnyday> okay
[00:27] <whatasunnyday> would 10, 20 be a better breakdown?
[00:28] <whatasunnyday> for '/' and home respectively
[00:28] <whatasunnyday> also, pfifo, i am planning to install windows later.
[00:28] <atome> hi there
[00:28] <atome>  I would like to assign keyboard keys on a joystick... ?
[00:28] <whatasunnyday> as well as 1 more distro
[00:28] <pfifo> whatasunnyday, 10g for root should be sufficient
[00:28] <atome> how can I do ?
[00:28] <pfifo> whatasunnyday, on that same drive?
[00:28] <whatasunnyday> yes
[00:29] <jbrks> This is my processor- http://ark.intel.com/products/spec/SR05S  -- But i do not know what cpuscaling module i should load with it.  Anyone has a link that can tell me?
[00:29] <maum> how can I flash plugin in ubuntu 11.10?
[00:29] <pfifo> whatasunnyday, well then you should plan out your entire partition tagble ahead of time or plan on wiping it all out when you want windows (re installing linux)
[00:30] <whatasunnyday> okay pfifo, this is what i had in mind. 10 gb ubuntu, 10 gb backtrack 5, 80 gb windows 2 swap, rest file space
[00:31] <elijah> Does anyone know how I can install the imap.so for PHP? I am getting this warning on launch when running Drush (php program) in the CLI "PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs/imap.so' - /usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs/imap.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in Unknown on line 0"
[00:31] <whatasunnyday> also, 20 gb home. i forgot about that. sorry.
[00:31] <elijah> #php said to ask here
[00:32] <pfifo> make the windows partition the very first partition of the drive, then make the rest of the drive an extended and fill with what ever you need
[00:32] <i7c> isn't there any better/new version of skype than that ugly one =)
[00:32] <i7c> it works so much smoother on windows
[00:33] <atome> anyway thanks ... qjoypad
[00:33] <whatasunnyday> pfifo, sorry for the dumb questions but then it would be an 80 gb primary drive, the rest primary and logical extensions of that?
[00:34] <pfifo> whatasunnyday,  [windows 80] { (extended) [logical 10] [logical 10] [swap 2] [home 20] free space for later on }
[00:34] <whatasunnyday> ahhh, thanks
[00:35] <whatasunnyday> so in the end its two partitions, with extensions for the linux partition?
[00:35] <pfifo> 2 primapry partitions with as many logicals as you want for linux and files
[00:35] <whatasunnyday> thanks pfifo
[00:36] <whatasunnyday> that was an excellent explanation
[00:36] <maum> how can I flash plugin in ubuntu 11.10?
[00:36] <pfifo> whatasunnyday, just make sure you put the windows at the very front and as the first partiton, then you can nuke all the rest when you figure out how you like it
[00:37] <whatasunnyday> does that mean i have to install windows first?
[00:37] <pfifo> whatasunnyday, not at all, just make the partition for use later on (but other circumstances make installing windows first a very good move)
[00:37] <maum> I did sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer but the website which has flash telling me that upgrade the flash version
[00:38] <maum> I don't know why.
[00:38] <jbrks> anybody knows if i should install a cpufreq daemon or is there already one built-in by default?
[00:39] <pfifo> jbrks, are you on a laptop?
[00:39] <jbrks> no
[00:39] <pfifo> jbrks, then dont use any cpu scaling
[00:39] <jbrks> pfifo, i installed nothing, but i do get similar output as from this webpage http://embraceubuntu.com/2005/11/04/enabling-cpu-frequency-scaling/
[00:39] <whatasunnyday> pfifo, i guess i shouldn't use the ubuntu installer to setup the partitions since it doesn't give me the ntfs option or ability to set a first partition as far as i can tell.
[00:40] <whatasunnyday> i should probably use gparted then, huh?
[00:40] <jbrks> so i'm guessing the kernel/modded has something already
[00:40] <pfifo> whatasunnyday, use 'gparted' utility from the livecd
[00:40] <kaspir> i have a watermark on my screen that says amd unsupported hardware. how do i get rid of this/ check my drivers?
[00:40] <maum> I did sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer but the website which has flash telling me that upgrade the flash version
[00:40] <whatasunnyday> awesome, great pfifo
[00:40] <jbrks> whatasunnyday, windows works best on the first partition(and make it a primary)
[00:40] <whatasunnyday> thank you so much
[00:41] <pfifo> jbrks, cpu frequency scaling is for saving battery life on laptops, on a desktop that plug into a wall theres no reason for it
[00:42] <Jeanina> Hi guys.. I would like to know that is there "easy to install" irc-client for Ubuntu? And sorry my bad english, I'm from finland
[00:42] <Jeanina> I already have xchat
[00:42] <Jeanina> but is there any other?
[00:42] <jbrks> pfifo, well its not a laptop, but as i said i do get those output "conservative ondemand userspace powersave performance"
[00:43] <kaspir> can somebody help me out with this amd watermark plx
[00:43] <itaylor57> !irc | Jeanina
[00:43] <[[thufir]]1> why does empathy peg the cpu?
[00:43] <pfifo> jbrks, the functionality is there, if you havent messed with it then you should be in performance mode which is what you want for a desktop with infinate power
[00:44] <tarelerulz> Have any of you installed Ubuntu on a android smart phone?
[00:44] <Jeanina> itaylor57 thankyou. I already been there and didn't understood.. I'm not that good on this ;)
[00:45] <pfifo> Jeanina, you could try pidgin, chatzilla and many more
[00:45] <[[thufir]]1> tarelerulz:   how about installing Android on Ubuntu?  then you get the app store.
[00:45] <Jeanina> Does anyone know which is channel for ubuntu finland?
[00:46] <pfifo> !fi | Jeanina
[00:46] <tarelerulz> Well, that would be  great idea.  Not looked into it.  Been reading some on the Ubuntu for android .  It very early ,but it looks very cool
[00:46] <Jeanina> chatzilla on firefox.. didn't like it
[00:47] <Jeanina> thank you
[00:47] <kuwrefem> Pidgin is easy to use.
[00:47] <tarelerulz> I love pidgin  ,but not support for video chat ?
[00:48] <Jeanina> I have never even try that on IRC
[00:48] <pfifo> I used to use pidgin when i first moved to linux for IRC and MSN, this was back when dalnet was cool, but then I took an arrow to the knee
[00:48] <kuwrefem> yeah that happened to me when i tried to set up irssi
[00:49] <Todd> screen+irssi+irssi proxy
[00:49] <Todd> best setup ever
[00:49] <jogster> where is the channels archive of logs?
[00:49] <Todd> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[00:50] <jogster> how do you search it?
[00:50] <maum> I did sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer but the website which has flash telling me that upgrade the flash version
[00:50] <Todd> jogster: google: search term site:irclogs.ubuntu.com
[00:51] <bazhang> !1984 | jogster
[00:51] <pfifo> 1984?
[00:52] <SaRSAeOL> pfifo: big brother
[00:52] <maum> I hope someone help me.
[00:52] <Todd> that's funny
[00:54] <pfifo> does ubottu have a changelog?
[01:01] <Silver26> When I setup my ubuntu box a few months ago, I used the gui to setup my file shares, How can I add new directories to that setup? tried editing /smb.conf but im not seeing any of my current setup in that file. Does the gui not use samba?
[01:02] <Silver26> I dont have access currently to the gui, I could VNC into it but I would like to be able to do it with cl
[01:04] <lwizardl> hello can someone help me with taking the tool swfextract (details at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1021056 ) which seems to only extract 1 item at a time. I am trying to extract all items (Shapes, MOV clips, JPEG, PNG, Sounds, Frames, MP3) to separately name files ID.EXT
[01:05] <pfifo> Silver26, look at /etc/exports it might use NFS
[01:05] <pfifo> Silver26, also it would be /etc/smb.conf just in case that wasnt a typo
[01:06] <breakbeat> Anyone in here?
[01:06] <Silver26> Yah I dont see anything pertaining to my current shares /etc/smb.conf
[01:06] <KM0201> pfifo: i thought it was /etc/samba/smb.conf
[01:06] <blackshirt> yeah
[01:06] <Silver26> I dont even have a /etc/exports :/
[01:06] <Silver26> I was just shortening it
[01:07] <pfifo> KM0201, I am not sure how ubuntu does it, I dont use windows
[01:07] <breakbeat> I was wondering if there was anyone that could help me with webcamp problems.  I'm unable to get a picture from my webcam.
[01:07] <breakbeat> *webcam
[01:07] <KM0201> pfifo: i'm not sure what windows has to do w/ Ubuntu samba configuration, but anyway, Silver26 the configuration for samba is in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[01:08] <pfifo> KM0201, not using windows means that I have no reason to use samba ^^
[01:08] <KM0201> pfifo: ah, ok.
[01:08] <goddard> Unity is not very responsive compared to Unity 2D
[01:08] <KM0201> unity is not very.... anything.. :)
[01:09] <goddard> does 12.04 fix any of this stuff?
[01:09] <iku-iku> hi, is it possible to recover a previous version of a document in libreoffice? it crashed and now i lost all the comments i made...
[01:09] <KM0201> goddard: i don't think unity is fixable, so in my opinion, no... :)
[01:09] <breakbeat> Anyone have any idea on how to even verify that my webcam is working?  I've been trying what's written in the wiki, but nothing seems to work.
[01:10] <goddard> KM0201: i love the screen real estate is there a comparable window manager?
[01:10] <goddard> KM0201: i couldn't even get gnome shell working
[01:10] <pfifo> breakbeat, install and run cheese, best webcam testing tool for linux ive seen so far
[01:10] <KM0201> goddard: i don't think so... i switched to lxde
[01:10] <diverdude> if i need to build and install a program from a manually downloaded source, then how can i ensure that the files are put in the right places?
[01:10] <breakbeat> I have downloaded and already used cheese, to no avail.
[01:10] <[[thufir]]1> for DAR slices to DVD, go ahead and make those 4.7 GB?  Or, should it be 4.6 to be conservative?  Using DVD-R media
[01:10] <KM0201> breakbeat: what type of camera?
[01:10] <pfifo> breakbeat, then its most likely not working
[01:11] <pube> anyone familiar with mounting a USB drive. it was automounting before but now it doesn't even recognize it as being plugged in
[01:11] <crc32> I have an app that looks like its linked to /usr/lib32 but for some reason tries to dynamicly open /var/lib/libnss3.so which 64 bit. How how do you keep the applicatio from loading the 32bit version at runtime?
[01:11] <Silver26> So i currently have 3 directories shared, I just want to add another directory to share. I would do that under /etc/samba/smb.conf right? It's just wierd I dont see anything about the current 3 dirs I have shared.
[01:11] <breakbeat> KM0201, I'm not sure.  My sister gave me a Sony Vaio desktop with a built in webcam, and I installed Ubuntu, and it's not working.
[01:11] <ndiswrapper> I need help!
[01:12] <whatasunnyday> Is it simple to decrypt my home folder if necessary?
[01:12] <KM0201> Silver26: sudo apt-get install pastebinit    (let that install) then pastebinit /etc/samba/smb.conf     then it will give you a link, post that link here
[01:12] <whatasunnyday> I can just use my password, right?
[01:13] <brianmbi> what the heck happened to screeem?
[01:13] <ndiswrapper> I upgraded my distro and now when I run "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" it reports "FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found."
[01:13] <breakbeat> pfifo: Is there anyway to even verify that linux supports the webcam?  I know that it's an older desktop, but drivers should be backwards compatiable with UVC, right?
[01:13] <KM0201> ndiswrapper: sorry, i don't use ndiswrapper (never have) and know nothing about it.
[01:13] <ndiswrapper> Ok
[01:13] <KM0201> !wireless > ndiswrapper see if this helps
[01:14] <pfifo> breakbeat, sorry, im not the guy to ask about webcams, im ugly and i shun all cameras
[01:14] <ndiswrapper> Km0201 do u know how to delete a file via terminal?
[01:14] <breakbeat> pfifo, gotcha.
[01:14] <brianmbi> is there any thing better than bluefish that is a good alternative to screeem?
[01:14] <KM0201> ndiswrapper: rm /path/to/file
[01:14] <worrow> I need an quick instruction for ubuntu 12.04 vmware fusion install
[01:14] <ndiswrapper> Thx
[01:14] <worrow> what do I select as OS. Running vmware fusion 4.1.1
[01:15] <whatasunnyday> nvm, i googled it
[01:15] <pfifo> worrow, ubuntu is linux
[01:15] <worrow> i know. but still selecting linux kernel 2.6?
[01:15] <brianmbi> is there any PHP developers in here?
[01:15] <ndiswrapper> Can anyone help with my ndiswrapper problem?
[01:15] <pfifo> worrow, if it offeres 3.0 choose that, but 2.6 should suffice
[01:16] <worrow> pfifo, thank you, I will use that selection. I know 3.0 does not yet exist in this version of fusion.
[01:16] <worrow> maybe a future update will include but unsure. Linux may have to submit the kernel to the
[01:16] <worrow> them*
[01:17] <pfifo> worrow, try to install a 2.6 kernel to make it happy
[01:17] <worrow> pfifo, Will do. I am hoping to see something special from the new 12.04
[01:17] <ndiswrapper> I upgraded my distro and now when I run "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" it reports "FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found."
[01:18] <diverdude> if i need to build and install a program from a manually downloaded source, then how can i ensure that the files are put in the right places?
[01:18] <itaylor57> !info ndiswapper
[01:19] <ndiswrapper> Its installed itaylor57
[01:19] <KM0201> !info ndiswrapper-gtk
[01:19] <pfifo> diverdude, if it uses autotools system then pass --prefix to the configure script
[01:19] <KM0201> hmm
[01:19] <escott> !info checkinstall | diverdude
[01:19] <ndiswrapper> When I run ndiswrapper -l it reports that the driver is installed
[01:19] <KM0201> ndiswrapper: just curious, what model wireless device do you have?
[01:20] <diverdude> escott: checkinstall?
[01:20] <ndiswrapper> Km0201 netgear wg311v3, and I know it works because ive used it before
[01:20] <escott> diverdude, use it instead of install and it will make a dpkg file for you to install with apt
[01:21] <randomenduser> hey, if you have a fullscreened gnome-terminal (with f11), you still see notifications, right?
[01:21] <diverdude> escott: so i do ./configure && make && make checkinstall ?
[01:21] <escott> diverdude, ./configure --prefix=/usr/local && make && checkinstall
[01:22] <diverdude> escott: ok, nice...how can i then uninstall if i want to?
[01:22] <Darb> hello
[01:23] <escott> diverdude, checkinstall will make a deb file and you can give it a name with some options to checkinstall, that way you can manage the package with apt
[01:23] <diverdude> escott: i see...what will that name be? and will it conflict with earlier versions of the library?
[01:24] <diverdude> escott: what i want is to install the newest version of libgphoto2-2
[01:24] <diverdude> escott: prepackaged with OS comes ver. 2.4.11, but i need 2.4.13
[01:24] <escott> diverdude, if you are installing by hand you will have to deal with any conflicts you may have introduced
[01:25] <diverdude> escott: so what will be the best way to proceed with that endevour?
[01:25] <escott> diverdude, i don't know the answer to that question, but a prefix is often a good idea, and checkinstall is a very good idea. you might check for a ppa if you have not already
[01:25] <diverdude> escott: there is no ppa :(
[01:25] <haux> hello
[01:27] <haux> For some reason this server isn't letting me speak in #httpd. I was wondering if anyone could help me configure Apache in Ubuntu. I have set ServerName to my ip address. Is there anything else I really need to do? In any case, it's not working. When *I* go to my ip address, it brings up my DSL modem configuration. And obviously it doesn't work for anybody else. Going to 127.0.0.1 shows the Apache test page.
[01:28] <bazhang> !register | haux
[01:28] <haux> I am registered and identified.
[01:28] <bazhang> haux /join #freenode for help with registering
[01:28] <R00tz> hello
[01:29] <R00tz> i have a warning from rkhunter anyone can help me?
[01:29] <Corey> R00tz: That'd depend upon the warning.
[01:30] <R00tz> http://pastebin.com/rZ5J680P
[01:30] <R00tz> seems like my browser is infected?
[01:31] <Corey> R00tz: Unlikely.  What does mount say?
[01:31] <R00tz> mount?
[01:32] <mystique> hi, I'm running ubuntu on virtual machine and the wireless isn't working. It's automatically selecting ethernet and not giving me much of an option to change
[01:32] <Corey> R00tz: Yes. "mount" without the quotes, press enter.
[01:32] <Corey> mystique: Urm... most virtual machines don't have wireless adapters.
[01:32] <Corey> mystique: They bridge ethernet to whatever the host uses.
[01:32] <wingdspur> mystique you would be using a virtual network adapter anyway
[01:33] <R00tz> http://pastebin.com/faF0MGFX
[01:33] <Corey> R00tz: False positives, you can ignore them.
[01:34] <haux> Can anyone here provide some assistance with configuring Apache for ubuntu?
[01:34] <Corey> haux: If you ask a more specific question, probably.
[01:34] <R00tz> oh ok because i have been infect before that's why i'm asking
[01:34] <R00tz> tyvm sir
[01:34] <Corey> R00tz: And ideally you improved your security practices since.
[01:34] <haux> I asked above, but here it is again: I have set ServerName to my ip address. Is there anything else I really need to do? In any case, it's not working. When *I* go to my ip address, it brings up my DSL modem configuration. And obviously it doesn't work for anybody else. Going to 127.0.0.1 shows the Apache test page.
[01:35] <R00tz> yes
[01:35] <R00tz> i learned a lot
[01:35] <Corey> haux: "Your" IP address?
[01:35] <Corey> haux: If you're
[01:35] <Corey> Er.
[01:35] <mystique> Corey, cool. thank you
[01:35] <Corey> haux: if you're talking about the external IP, you need a port forward in some form.
[01:36] <haux> Corey. I guess I'm referring to the WAN IP.
[01:36] <Corey> haux: Yeah, definitely need to forward from that IP to the internal IP of your computer, at least on port 80 but possibly on 443 as well if you're using SSL.
[01:36] <haux> Corey, I added forwarding on port 80 on the DSL modem config.
[01:36] <Corey> And this of course assumes that port 80 isn't blocked.
[01:37] <haux> Corey, let me go look at it again.
[01:37] <Corey> Looks like it may be, nothing's responding on your IP on port 80
[01:37] <Corey> A common issue with residential IPs.
[01:38] <dagerik> Is it safe to tar my home folder?
[01:38] <dagerik> And later restore it.
[01:39] <haux> Corey, so "Web Server" forwards port 80 and 443. 80 and 443 are shown in columns Port Start, Port End, and Port Map. Does this part sound correct so far?
[01:40] <Corey> Yes. What doesn't sound correct is that I think your ISP filters those ports from the outside, as you've got a residential class connection.
[01:40] <Corey> dagerik: Sure, but you may not be able to log in.
[01:40] <frogzoo> what's the gnome vnc applet?
[01:40] <Corey> dagerik: So set up a backup account just in case.
[01:40] <_m0rgue> anyone can help me on gdm2setup please ?
[01:41] <griffjon> so, I'm trying to trac down more leads for this problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1923131 Intel Ultimate cards (mainly) randomly crap out, and only a reboot gets them working again, hardware switches, networking restarts, even rmmod/modprobe fails
[01:41] <haux> Corey, if that is the case, I assume there's no way around it?
[01:42] <hydrox24> !anyone | _m0rgue
[01:44] <Corey> haux: Upgrade your connection class, bind to an alternate port (8080 is popular), or host your stuff somewhere else.
[01:44] <_m0rgue> thanks hydrox24 but I have kinda given up hope on it...this is my third time raising the question in different format :-(
[01:45] <Corey> _m0rgue: It's your problem, not mine-- I'm not likely to /lastlog to see what your specific issue is.
[01:45] <Corey> Make it easy for people to help you.
[01:45] <haux> Corey, I tried other ports via "Listen" in the config with no success. I think I might be doing that incorrectly?
[01:45] <frogzoo> !vnc
[01:46] <Corey> haux: It sounds like you're putting the cart before the horse.
[01:46] <Corey> haux: Make sure you can hit it on your internal IP (not the loopback) first.
[01:46] <Corey> Once that's working, then let's talk about getting the rest of the world to see it.
[01:46] <_m0rgue> Corey, whatever mayn...jeez
[01:46] <Corey> 127.0.0.1 is the loopback, for reference.
[01:46] <Corey> _m0rgue: Your call, I'm just trying to assist you in asking for help.
[01:46] <haux> Corey, I suppose that's the part I am having difficulty with then.
[01:47] <bazhang> _m0rgue, you want to reconfigure gdm?
[01:47] <haux> Corey, since going to my external ip brings up the modem config, I'm kind of stuck there
[01:47] <neeze> hey im a retard when it comes to command line i accidently typed view /usr brought up black screen blue hyphins how do i get back to the basic command line
[01:47] <danny> hello this is sort of a very unprobable thing to ask but is there a way to dual boot both windows and ubuntu at the same time using 2 monitors? with out using a virtual machine
[01:47] <Corey> haux: No, your local OP.
[01:47] <Corey> IP*
[01:47] <_m0rgue> thanks bazhang, the theme tab is disabled...I want to be able to enable it
[01:47] <Corey> Not your internal IP.
[01:48] <Corey> Er, external.
[01:48] <Corey> haux: ipconfig to a pastebin, please.
[01:48] <hydrox24> neeze: just hit esc, then type ":wq" and hit enter
[01:48] <Corey> Whoops.
[01:48] <Corey> haux: ifconfig rather
[01:48] <Corey> Sorry, brain cramp.
[01:48] <danny> i have both win 7 and ubuntu installed already
[01:48] <dagerik> Corey: Does this look good for backing up /home: tar -czf backup.tar.gz /home/john --exclude=backup.tar.gz
[01:48] <hydrox24> danny: no.
[01:49] <haux> Corey, this may save you some trouble, going to 192.168.137.82 shows the Apache test page. If you still need to see the ifconfig output I'll show you.
[01:49] <Corey> dagerik: Where are you running that from?
[01:49] <Cong> dagerik, why don't you try it and find out?
[01:49] <dagerik> Corey: from ~/
[01:49] <hydrox24> dagerik: It looks fine, you will be able to try it without breaking things for sure.
[01:49] <Corey> dagerik: I'd make my life easier and run it from outside of that directory.
[01:50] <danny> hydrox24: ok dang now i dont know to much about virtual machines but i have a windows 7 key on the back of my computer can i use that key if i ran win 7 virtualy from ubuntu ? or will i have to buy a whole new key ?
[01:50] <crazedpsyc> danny: no, that key should work.
[01:51] <Guest78496> .
[01:51] <danny> crazedpsyc: ok thankyou any suggestiongs a good virtual program for ubuntu ?
[01:51] <soaringsky> danny: virtualbox
[01:52] <crazedpsyc> danny: try VirtualBox or VirtualBox OSE (Open Source Edition)
[01:52] <tintoy> hi all please help me how to use ubuntu cloud
[01:52] <soaringsky> tintoy: #ubuntu-cloud
[01:52] <danny> crazedpsyc: is there a big difference between the 2 ?
[01:52] <crazedpsyc> danny: not for most uses, afaik.
[01:53] <danny> crazedpsyc: ok thank you for ur help
[01:55] <tintoy> soaringsky: I have already created an account in ubuntu cloud, How can I use the 5 gig storage ?
[01:56] <soaringsky> !one | tintoy
[01:58] <[[thufir]]1> help with dar script please:  http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1516331    I can't seem to run it.
[01:58] <soaringsky> !one > tintoy
[01:59] <hydrox24> [[thufir]]1: would be more useful if you posted the error it throws?
[02:00] <[[thufir]]1> hydrox24: no error is thrown.  I need it to pause between slices.
[02:01] <[[thufir]]1> yes, there's a -p switch.  however, when I run ./dar_script   there's no dar messages, no "press enter to continue".  I only have room for one slice at a time.
[02:02] <xiewanchen_> In the configure file /etc/default/portmap
[02:02] <xiewanchen_> OPTIONS="-i 127.0.0.1"
[02:03] <danny> is there a way or a program that will take a screen shot of my screen and send it to my email on startup if someone else were to reboot my computer or i were to reboot it remotly
[02:03] <[[thufir]]1> how do I run this script http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1516331  so that dar will pause between slices?  I have space for only one slice.
[02:03] <xiewanchen_> Who can help me to understand this sentence?
[02:04] <[[thufir]]1> xiewanchen:  huh?  which?
[02:04] <CFHowlett> danny   prey
[02:04] <xiewanchen_> OPTIONS=" -i 127.0.0.1"
[02:04] <dagerik> [[thufir]]1: You must make the file executble by chmodding +x. Then you can run it with ./filename
[02:05] <danny> CFHowlett: im searching it right now is it easy to set up ?
[02:06] <CFHowlett> danny   never used it but it seems pretty straightforward ...
[02:06] <[[thufir]]1> dagerik: it is plus x.  I have run it.  it creates a single slice, then nothing.
[02:07] <dagerik> [[thufir]]1: sleep 3, will sleep for three seconds
[02:07] <escott> danny, X can disappear without much of a signal to anyone. the best approach might be to take a screenshot every X minutes and replace the existing file, then add to the gnome-session start a step that archives away the most recent screenshot
[02:07] <danny> CFHowlett: ok thanks its not letting me go to the homepage says its down but it will let me go to the download page so thats good enoguh for me
[02:07] <[[thufir]]1> lol.  PEBKAC mebbe.  I'll try again.
[02:07] <hydrox24> xiewanchen_: you still there?
[02:08] <haux> I'm trying to configure Apache2 in ubuntu. Can someone tell me if i need to set ServerName as my external IP address?
[02:08] <danny> escott: is that in the gui or via the terminal ?
[02:08] <Nick-1> Hey, im trying to create a wide open samba server and shares, is there a simple way to do this?
[02:09] <dagerik> haux: That should not be neccessary.
[02:10] <haux> dagerik, when I don't, I get the error: "Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName"
[02:10] <haux> dagerik, so I presume that I do?
[02:10] <dagerik> haux: I also get that error. But apache still works perfectly.
[02:11] <haux> dagerik, in that case, my next question is. It doesn't work. I have "Listen 59071", and http://71.29.245.171:59071 won't work for me
[02:12] <haux> dagerik, any suggestions?
[02:12] <CFHowlett> danny   I show it live again
[02:13] <dagerik> haux: Are you trying to reach your own server from the same machine that the server is running on?
[02:13] <escott> danny, it would be a script which you can write and test on the cli. it should look something like: "#!/bin/bash\n mv screenshot.png `date --rfc-3339=seconds`_screenshot.png\n while true\n do\n sleep 300;\n screenshot-app\n done
[02:13] <haux> dagerik, I am.
[02:13] <dagerik> haux: Try http://localhost:59071
[02:14] <haux> dagerik, localhost work, and my local IP works. It doesn't work on port 59071
[02:14] <mao> hello,how can I set the gnome-terminal's tab bar bottom
[02:14] <[[thufir]]1> dagerik: that script just hangs.  There's 6+GB available space, but the slice is only ~500MB.   I would rather not use a script, and just use DAR directly, but don't know the syntax.
[02:15] <dagerik> haux: Let mee see the line in ports.conf that starts with "Listen"
[02:15] <dagerik> haux: You can do that like this;  grep Listen /etc/apache2/ports.conf
[02:15] <[[thufir]]1> dagerik: of course, now the slice is 1.5GB, so maybe it's just quite slow.  ok, I'll wait a bit...?
[02:16] <reder> hi i want to install firebird with rpm files but giving this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/881324/ can any body help me about this
[02:16] <haux> dagerik, Listen 80. I added Listen 59071 in httpd.conf
[02:16] <dagerik> haux: Obviously, you need to learn to configure apache.
[02:17] <Wildbat> I have try to boot a Native Win7 (64bit) under Virtual Box in ubuntu 10.04 ~ but it enter a boot loop anyone have a solutions?
[02:17] <dagerik> haux: /etc/apache2/sites-available/default is probably the file you wanna configure. Unless you have clutteed with cirtual hosts before.
[02:17] <[[thufir]]1> mao: what do you mean?  the size of the window?  doesn't GNOME just remember?
[02:17] <haux> dagerik, you would be correct. I installed apache in windows years ago without issue and no custom configuration. I have never installed it in ubuntu.
[02:18] <dagerik> haux: Well, it now runs on port 80. More problems we must fix? :)
[02:19] <[[thufir]]1> is 4500MB the correct size to set DAR for DVD-R media?
[02:20] <haux> dagerik, let me add 59071 to ports.conf then, and I'll see what happens. Port 80 doesn't work for me in any case. When I go to my external IP, my modem config comes up, and it doesn't work for anyone else. I don't need this to be on port 80 anyway.
[02:20] <mao> [[thufir]]1: I mean,while the gnome-termianl's tab bar is on the top indefault,but I want let it on the bottom.Is there any way
[02:21] <dagerik> haux: Obviously, you also need to learn about network. If you are behind a router which does NAT-ing, then you have an internal ip such as 192.168.2.45 which is only visible on your lan. You can use that one, or 127.0.0.1 or localhost to reach yourself.
[02:22] <haux> There is no router. Just a DSL modem.
[02:22] <reder> hi i want to install a rpm files but taking this error on ssh http://paste.ubuntu.com/881324/ can any body help me about this
[02:22] <[[thufir]]1> mao: ohhh.  you must stand on your head or something :)   ok, hmm.  that may not be be possible.   you googled it?  I'll google too, nothing else to do ATM.
[02:22] <dagerik> Your "external" ip is 71.29.245.171 your routers ipaddress.
[02:23] <[[thufir]]1> mao: gnometweak?  did you try that?
[02:23] <haux> dagerik, I know this.
[02:24] <soaringsky> reder: rpm is not ubuntu's packaging system. you'll probably have lots of problems with it
[02:24] <dagerik> haux: Remember to restart apache after each change to config files. Also; if you want the outside world to reach your http server, you need to instruct your router to send data towards your pc.
[02:24] <mao> [[thufir]]1: thank you,i'll try
[02:24] <soaringsky> !rpm | reder
[02:24] <dagerik> haux: apache can be restartet like this: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[02:25] <haux> dagerik, I know that too.
[02:25] <soaringsky> dagerik: haux: you can also do service apache2 restart
[02:25] <hydrox24> haux: the proper way on buntu is sudo service apache2 restart
[02:25] <haux> dagerik, It's the configuration I am having difficulty with, not understanding networks or how to restart apache.
[02:25] <roasted> Question - is there a way I can set my Ubuntu desktop to automatically turn on at a certain time?
[02:26] <dagerik> haux: I want to help you! What is the problem now?
[02:26] <halversondm> DNS - I setup a Ubuntu Server 11.10 for the purpose of home network.  Host a website, etc.  I set the DNS on the server for my internal domain name.  To test I set my laptop on wireless to use the internal DNS.  no issues.  Everything works just fine.  BUT I want that internal DNS available to all computers that connect to my router.  So I updated the router to have the primary IP of my server and the secondary of an OpenDNS server.
[02:26] <Whiskey> sudo apt-get remove --purge && autoremove build-essential
[02:26] <halversondm> Now when I try to access my website (again just on my internal network) it doesn't work
[02:26] <soaringsky> roasted: not at this time
[02:27] <halversondm> the router skips my internal DNS and goes to the external DNS.
[02:27] <haux> dagerik, let's say everything was working properly. Technically I shouldn't have to configure anythine, and the server should be reachable by the outside world simply by visiting my external IP address, correct?
[02:27] <hydrox24> roasted: look into WOL or wakeonlan
[02:27] <haux> *anything
[02:27] <halversondm> Anyone know why that is?
[02:27] <Fyodorovna> reder, look in the ubuntu repos it is there.
[02:27] <reder> dagerik, soaringsky so can i install firebird server on ubuntu with any rpm files ? or i can install with apt-get ?
[02:27] <roasted> hydrox24, but doesn't that require a router that supports WOL?
[02:27] <roasted> soaringsky, I wonder if there's a BIOS setting to do such a thing?
[02:27] <dagerik> haux: yes, unless you are NAT-ed.
[02:27] <soaringsky> !apt | reder
[02:27] <hydrox24> roasted: then you can setup and automatic script on another computer on the same network to send the packet to wake the computer at the appropriate time
[02:28] <hydrox24> roasted: only a BIOS that supports WOL all routers do.
[02:28] <soaringsky> roasted: not usually
[02:28] <Iceheart> Serious problem here, need to reinstall ubuntu so I did an img burn of 11.10
[02:28] <roasted> hydrox24, ALL routers support WOL???
[02:28] <Iceheart> but my laptop wont boot from the disc
[02:28] <roasted> hydrox24, I thought only specific routers supported WOL
[02:28] <Iceheart> I have already set the boot settings for the disc drive
[02:28] <Iceheart> still nothin
[02:28] <dagerik> Iceheart: Check the md5sum, can be bit errir in transit.
[02:28] <Iceheart> how do I check that?
[02:28] <hydrox24> roasted: WOL is just a normal network packet...
[02:29] <roasted> hydrox24, oh..
[02:29] <dagerik> Iceheart: you generate md5sum from the iso file and compare it the the one on the website
[02:29] <reder> soaringsky thank you i know apt but i want to ask this. can i only install firebird only apt or can i install firebird with rpm files ?
[02:29] <haux> dagerik, I'm not sure what NAT is, but you mentioned a router, and I said that I was not behind a router. I simply have a DSL modem. In any case, the server is NOT accessible by the outside world. Port 80 and 443 are being forwarded in the modem configuration, and still it doesn't work. It's possible that my ISP is blocking 80 or something? I don't know. This is why I was trying to configure it to listen on a different port.
[02:29] <Fyodorovna> Iceheart, try tapping f12 at powering on.
[02:29] <[[thufir]]1> if 54celsius hot for a pentium4 CPU?  it's near the top of the graph for temp :(
[02:29] <kayaman> hi
[02:29] <Iceheart> I did
[02:29] <kayaman> all
[02:29] <Iceheart> it does nothing.
[02:29] <hydrox24> roasted: is the computer you are trying to wake realtively modern?
[02:29] <hydrox24> kayaman: Hi!
[02:30] <[[thufir]]1> haux: your modem might be a router.  how many ethernet ports does it have?
[02:30] <haux> one.
[02:30] <haux> It is not a router.
[02:30] <Iceheart> So you guys think it's a problem with the disk?
[02:30] <soaringsky> reder: installing anything with rpm on ubuntu will not work. get it through apt
[02:30] <haux> It was cheap. Modem/Router combos cost twice as much.
[02:30] <dagerik> haux: It is tricky yo check if you external ip is accessible to the outside world. I mean, if you do it from your own pc, you are already inside.
[02:30] <dagerik> haux: Give me ip adress and ill check for you.
[02:30] <Fyodorovna> Iceheart, what is your computer model? All havea boot from menu outside the bios prompted with key or multi key presses.
[02:30] <Iceheart> It's an hp dv7
[02:30] <haux> 71.29.245.171
[02:31] <roasted> hydrox24, sort of. pentium dual core, etc.
[02:31] <kayaman> ok
[02:31] <spacebarbarian> whats the command for listing upstart jobs ?
[02:31] <spacebarbarian> *processes
[02:31] <dagerik> haux: does http://localhost:80 work?
[02:31] <roasted> hydrox24, it's a file server for my parents. I began to question if it needs to run 247. I started to think, what if I just set it to run the entire day on sunday or something and have it auto shut down for the rest of the week. Then saturday night, fire back up so it's online for the automatic backup to kick over to it.
[02:31] <hydrox24> roasted: you'll haveto look through the bios for the feature
[02:31] <roasted> hydrox24, I'm just trying to be smart with what they need vs electricity savings.
[02:32] <roasted> hydrox24, their data doesn't change enough to warrant 247365 uptime, so meh.
[02:32] <dagerik> haux: And also, what is output of "ifconfig | grep inet"
[02:32] <haux> dagerik, yes it does work.
[02:32] <roasted> hydrox24, at the same token I wonder if a pentium dual core is eating enough energy for it to even be a concern when idle.
[02:33] <Fyodorovna> Iceheart, try f1 then esc I see delete on another link.
[02:33] <haux> dagerik, http://pastebin.com/n2crLwXb
[02:33] <dagerik> haux: Just as I thouht, you are behind a router which does NAT-ing.
[02:33] <Iceheart> ok I'll try f1
[02:34] <dagerik> haux: You need to instruct your router to forward data to port 80, to your pc. This is called port-forwarding.
[02:34] <|Anthony|> any way to further identify the results of users
[02:34] <roasted> hydrox24, I wonder, if a computer is in suspend mode if it would be able to wake up vs being completely turned off.
[02:34] <haux> dagerik, port forwarding is setup already.
[02:34] <dagerik> haux: Obviously not
[02:34] <hydrox24> roasted: look at if the BIOS has an auto ON feature, even old ones have that feature.
[02:34] <|Anthony|> sometimes when i call users, it shows me being logged in multiple times
[02:34] <haux> dagerik, does it make any difference that this computer is not the one directly connected to the modem?
[02:35] <|Anthony|> just want to know if there is a way to identify sessions that each instance of user is tied to
[02:35] <haux> dagerik, my connection is coming from the primary computer via ICS (Internet Connection Sharing).
[02:36] <dagerik> haux: You have the port forwaring screwed up. check that ip and ports are correct. good night
[02:39] <Abs1nth3> Good evening. It's my first time here and I have a small question.  When I move my cursor to the left of my screen a menu appear (the same menu that appear when I press the windows button on my keyboard). My question is, Is there to only make this menu appear by clicking the windows key on my keyboard and not while moving my cursur to the left of the screen ?
[02:39] <Abs1nth3> is there a way*
[02:39] <[[thufir]]1> can you write a full 4.7GB to DVD-R ?
[02:40] <Fyodorovna> [[thufir]]1, check the size of the disc.
[02:40] <Fyodorovna> [[thufir]]1, most have a very small buffer above it read.
[02:41] <[[thufir]]1> Fyodorovna: the disc is blank.  I ask before creating dar slices.  is 4.6G safer? or is 4.7 ok?  how do I look at the disc?  nautilus says "empty"
[02:44] <Fyodorovna> [[thufir]]1, I think a right click  then properties gives a amount
[02:44] <[[thufir]]1> it's ok.  it doesn't for me.  properties asy zero.
[02:44] <brazzmunk> hi, can anyone help me out? i have issues with ATI drivers, windows lagging etc
[02:45] <OerHeks> Abs1nth3, i just checked my-unity ( the sidebar you mentioned) but i can't find any setting for that. you should check it out, >> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/unity-tweak-tool-myunity-gets-new-look-coming-to-ubuntu-software-centre/
[02:46] <brazzmunk> hi, can anyone help me out? i have issues with ATI drivers, windows lagging etc
[02:47] <brostoise> where can I find my favourite channels list on xchat?
[02:49] <Whiskey> `echo DD | awk '{print tolower($0)} | bash'` <-- whats wrong here?
[02:50] <brazzmunk> hi, can anyone help me out? i have issues with ATI drivers, windows lagging etc
[02:51] <soaringsky> !ati | brazzmunk
[02:51] <soaringsky> brazzmunk: what issues are you having?
[02:53] <DropsOfSerenity> test
[02:53] <brazzmunk> in Unity windows are slow when dragging or scrolling, i have HD 6850 and latest drivers, searched around and seems that alot of people have this issue but no solution
[02:54] <goddard> is it possible to get the snap to left or right of the screen in Ubuntu 2D?
[02:54] <xxiao> i installed ubuntu 10.04 side by side with windows, however during reboot i did not see grub and it boots into ubuntu directly
[02:54] <xxiao> how could I fix that?
[02:55] <Jordan_U> xxiao: What is the output of "sudo os-prober"?
[02:55] <Fyodorovna> xxiao, try running in ubuntu sudo upfate-grub
[02:55] <soaringsky> brazzmunk: the proprietary drivers are proprietary, so its hard for us to fix them
[02:55] <soaringsky> brazzmunk: is there a bug filed?
[02:56] <Fyodorovna> xxiao, wrong command by one letter follow Jordan_U
[02:56] <xxiao> thanks. let me try
[02:56] <cube123123> hey guys, i just tried setting up full system encryption, but when booting i get this error "cryptsetup: evms_activate is not available"
[02:56] <cube123123> im not sure what to do about it
[02:57] <brazzmunk> i beleive so, last i checked the issue was with compiz, no further solutions i figured someone might have a workaround on here
[02:57] <xxiao> Fyodorovna: yes saw that. thanks
[02:58] <Abs1nth3> Ty Oerheks, sorry for the slow respond I was on the phone
[02:58] <soaringsky> brazzmunk: try going back to the open drivers?
[02:58] <brazzmunk> ubuntu fails to boot
[02:58] <OerHeks> Abs1nth3, with my-unity you can tweak a lot, have fun
[02:59] <xxiao> Jordan_U: os_prober showed nothing
[02:59] <soaringsky> brazzmunk: is there a bug filed for that issue?
[03:01] <brazzmunk> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/879935
[03:01] <xxiao> Fyodorovna: update-grub only outputs some linux stuff
[03:01] <xxiao> meanwhile the windows partition is still at /dev/sda2
[03:02] <xxiao> can I manually add it?
[03:02] <OerHeks> xxiao, os-prober, not os_prober
[03:02] <danny> is there a way to access my ubuntu information on my windows side much like u can access all your windows files when ur in ubuntu
[03:02] <rhin0> how can I force a umount when the terminal locks up because the server is down
[03:02] <xxiao> OerHeks: my typo, os-probe showed nothing
[03:02] <rhin0> ie. .. terminal opens into mount point
[03:03] <rhin0> i'll reboot
[03:04] <Jordan_U> xxiao: If "sudo os-prober" gives no output then it's likely that something is wrong with your Windows installation.
[03:05] <signpost> would anyone mind helping me with pam and ssh?  I just set up google two factor authentication, and it asks for the 2-factor code when I try password auth, but I'd like it to prompt when using a pre-shared key too.  is that possible?
[03:05] <signpost> presumably openssh isn't even hitting pam if there's a shared key.  that's at least what it seems like.
[03:06] <soaringsky> signpost: not possible I think. Pam doesnt get hit for keys
[03:06] <Jordan_U> xxiao:  Could you run boot info script and pastebin the RESULTS.txt it produces?
[03:06] <signpost> soaringsky: thanks very much.  that's what I suspected.
[03:06] <Jordan_U> !nootinfo | xxiao
[03:07] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | xxiao
[03:08] <xxiao> i actually ran that script, and it does detect win7
[03:08] <Jordan_U> xxiao: Please pastebin the entire RESULTS.txt.
[03:09] <kaphe> hi, how do i prevent gnome-panel from getting stuck in "auto-hide"?
[03:10] <kaphe> want to place it on the left side of desktop
[03:10] <datruth> what could cause http://pastebin.com/9jLHniMw ?
[03:10] <xxiao> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/iT7K9Mgu
[03:12] <Jordan_U> xxiao: It looks to me like you deleted your Windows System partition.
[03:12] <xxiao> hmmm
[03:13] <xxiao> guess i will have to reinstall it, sigh
[03:13] <xxiao> thanks for the help, i messed it up when i was playing RAID5 with other disks
[03:13] <Jordan_U> xxiao: You're welcome.
[03:14] <cube123123> guys, i followed this script http://blog.andreas-haerter.com/2011/06/18/ubuntu-full-disk-encryption-lvm-luks.sh and now i keep getting cryptsetup: evms_activate is not available
[03:14] <cube123123> seriousy
[03:14] <cube123123> my system isnt working!
[03:14] <cube123123> help!
[03:14] <Krywk> Hello there. I come here to ask if someone has a solution to this problem:
[03:15] <Krywk> I downloaded Ubuntu Studio. Then I changed from XFCE to GNOME Classic. Neither of those X servers have line-in config, like in "INput" choose "Line-in 1" and all that. How can I solve this?
[03:16] <Krywk> Or how can I get to these configurations?
[03:17] <schelry> hi. i'm trying to troubleshoot wireless networking on a new installation of ubuntu 10.04.4. right now, the networking drop-down only shows "wired" connections, of which there are none. Configuring the preferences for networking to include a wireless connection (requiring WPA2 password) does not make wireless networking show up as an option. Does someone have a clue for me what to try next?
[03:17] <Krywk> cube123123, haven't you read?
[03:17] <Krywk> It clearly says
[03:17] <Krywk> echo "# ATTENTION: THIS SCRIPT MAY ERASE ALL YOUR DATA ON THE CHOSEN DEVICE!"
[03:17] <Krywk> echo "#            MAKE SURE YOU GOT A BACKUP OF ALL YOUR IMPORTANT DATA OR USE/TRY"
[03:17] <Krywk> echo "#            AN EMPTY DISK! USE AT YOUR OWN RISK! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!"
[03:17] <Krywk> echo "###############################################################################"
[03:17] <Krywk>  
[03:17] <FloodBot1> Krywk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:18] <cube123123> KLOL
[03:18] <cube123123> guys
[03:19] <cornerse> that was a dumb k-line.
[03:19] <[[thufir]]1> dagerik: fixed that script to a command:  dar -c /home/gandalf/Desktop/thufir2012march03 -s 2600M -p -b -z -R /home/thufir -D   because slice was too large, was going to cause overheating.
[03:21] <cube123123> cornerse: what is a kline?
[03:22] <CFHowlett> schelry   you still with us?
[03:23] <Fyodorovna> xxiao, you load the missing bootfiles to the sda2 partition it looks to be the C main OS partition.
[03:24] <xxiao> Fyodorovna: reinstalling...sigh
[03:24] <xxiao> thanks
[03:25] <cornerse> cube123123: maybe noobs know.
[03:29] <krapsky> .
[03:30] <krapsky> a
[03:30] <Corey> krapsky: Yes?
[03:30] <krapsky> testing out this client, its a P.O.S
[03:30] <krapsky> cant figure out where the hell the chat is..
[03:30] <krapsky> besides this one line thing..
[03:31] <schelry> cfhowlett: yes, I logged right back in (but didn't see your question till right now). I'm here
[03:32] <Corey> krapsky: Looks fairly straightforward to me: http://www.aquaticx.com/screenshots.htm
[03:33] <CFHowlett> schelry   open a terminal type the following the paste the output  lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4
[03:33] <sacarlson> schelry: I guess we should see what chip set we are playing with;  you could try sudo lshw | pastebinit ;  to provide us with some info.
[03:33] <sacarlson> schelry: or what CFHowlett said is fine
[03:34] <schelry> cfhowlett: I have to switch computers to the linux machine without networking… will do that and come back and ugh: type in the results
[03:34] <CFHowlett> schelry   alright
[03:36] <sacarlson> CFHowlett: what's the grep 14e4 ?  is that to search for broadcom device or something?
[03:37] <CFHowlett> sacarlson   yep.  I'm betting broadcom or realtek ...
[03:37] <sacarlson> CFHowlett: sound cool
[03:39] <schelry> ok well typing reults will be easy: first commapnt ending in 14e4 did not return anything, the next line was the command prompt
[03:39] <schelry> the second command told me to type an apt-get to install pastebinit because it isn't installed, but then the attempt to install it failed.
[03:39] <dati> hi
[03:40] <CFHowlett> schelry   go ahead and run lshw.  out of the LONG list, you should see an entry with "broadcom" or "realtek"...
[03:41] <schelry> k
[03:41] <dati> hi guys any anyone help me configure my linux install as access point and router
[03:41] <dati> ?
[03:42] <sacarlson> dati: is that all it will be?  I think I saw a package that does that if your wifi device will work in master mode
[03:43] <dati> sacarlson: I have atheros ar9285
[03:43] <dati> and yes it does run in monitor mode.
[03:45] <dati> also i will use it while it is being the router...
[03:46] <n1x4> Hi, I updated my system with "sudo su -> rm -rf /" like I was told to do and now it won't boot up. Did I change something with this update?
[03:47] <schelry> cfhowlett: ding ding ding we have a winner. among the results *network: UNCLAIMED has the description Realtek Semiconductor, Limited.
[03:47] <CFHowlett> schelry   thought so.  Sadly, my "expertise" is with broadcom.  I'm certain someone else on the channel has realtek wifi installation skills ...
[03:48] <xangua> n1x4: you deleted all files in your linux partition
[03:48] <n1x4> I'm on my windows laptop right now, if anyone could help I'd appreciate it.
[03:48] <n1x4> xangua: How? It was an update.
[03:48] <CFHowlett> n1x4   who told you to run that command?
[03:48] <dati> xangua: rm is remove...
[03:49] <dr_willis> rm -rf = delete everything
[03:49] <n1x4> Some peaople on #linux
[03:49] <dati> aka delete
[03:49] <n1x4> Well, that just sucks, i was really wanting to try linux out
[03:49] <CFHowlett> !danger|n1xr
[03:49] <dr_willis> time to learn some shell basics asyou reinstall
[03:49] <n1x4> So now I have to re-install it right?
[03:49] <CFHowlett> n1x4   reinstall ...
[03:49] <schelry> cfhowlett: aww… well thank you for your help thus far. I didn't know anything at all about the hardware on this pc… got it free from a freecycler who said it was dead… I'm trying to resurrect it as a project and its really, really turning into a project! but at least ubutunu boots… which is some real progress
[03:50] <dati> anyone with experience installing atheros controllers?
[03:50] <CFHowlett> schelry   you can probably get the wifi working - it's just not MY thing.  :)
[03:50] <n1x4> ath5k? or 9k?
[03:50] <sacarlson> dati: all I found so far is http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Documentation/hostapd
[03:51] <gnubie> schelry,  you might search on ubuntuforums.org for help
[03:52] <hoshi411> anyone know how to get the xchat channels to have tabs at the bottom like smuxi?
[03:53] <CFHowlett> schelry   also search "ubuntu realtek wifi" and seek the community pages
[03:53] <hoshi411> i hate how you cant configure the smuxi colors
[03:53] <schelry> cfhowlett: I know the wifi card actually works because when I got the thing, windows actually booted for me (once…) and I was able to set up the wifi for automatic connection. Then I started playing around with the os (trying either win7 or linux) and spent the whole weekend just trying to get something, anything, livecd, liveusb, non-live boot disks, to work.
[03:53] <Dogears> Hi!
[03:53] <schelry> gnubie: I've been at the forums. There are actually quite a few threads about problems with wireless networking but none of the ones with my-ish problem had solutions yet.. now that I know it's realtek I can go try agbain
[03:54] <maum> I did sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer but the website which has flash telling me that upgrade the flash version
[03:54] <sacarlson> dati: but sounds like network shareing is now built into network-manager so might want to look at that also but here's the package for http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=hostapd
[03:54] <CFHowlett> schelry   so close and yet... As I understand it, realtek configuration is as much a PITA as broadcom - but it can be done.  Look/ask around.  The answers are there.
[03:55] <schelry> I think my main problem has to be with the realtek driver being missing from the install cd… the "wireless" options do not appear in the networking drop-down, probably because they don't know the Realtek card is there (hends the "unclaimed" comment in the lshw results)
[03:55] <CFHowlett> schelry   don't leap to that conclusion.
[03:56] <schelry> cfhowlett: it's a suspicion, not a conclusion!!
[03:56] <dati> thanks sacarlson
[03:56] <schelry> (i hope I'd know better than to only look for the answer I choose…..)
[03:56] <CFHowlett> schelry   I found after very careful reading that my drivers actually WERE included on the disk in the "restricted" repos.  A little patience, following the correct tutorial and terminal work and I had bcom working great.
[03:57] <CFHowlett> schelry   fyi https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/RealtekRTL8187b
[03:57] <gnubie> schelry,  search google for "ubuntu unclaimed card"
[03:57] <schelry> cfhowlett: do you kno whow I can enable the "restricted" repos? I tried setting repo preferences but it would always attempt to download, never evey attempting to access the install cd which was still "in"
[03:58] <Dogears> Just tried to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 but now have a big problem - The disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present
[03:58] <CFHowlett> schelry   exactly my point, the drivers were in the boot media - I HAD no wifi access.  No repos available
[03:58] <talalala> hey
[03:58] <schelry> cfhowlett: how to tell the system preferences dialog to "look in the boot media"?
[03:59] <schelry> I didn't find an option for that. could be i'm blind
[03:59] <armence_> Hello all. I have a problem. I am trying to play sound and my user is unable to do so. I would appreciate some help with that
[03:59] <CFHowlett> schelry   again, ask around look around.  The RIGHT tutorial, probably from communication documentation, makes all the difference.
[03:59] <CFHowlett> schelry   I just used the file explorer and found them.
[03:59] <schelry> ok guys, I'm going to sit in here (backburner) and do the searches that you (cfhowlett, gnubie) have recommended. If i have questions you'll hear from me….
[04:00] <CFHowlett> schelry   good luck - believe it or not, I suspect you're quite close.
[04:00] <gnubie> schelry,  you might search on ubuntuforums.org for helpditto
[04:00] <gnubie> schelry,  ditto
[04:02] <schelry> wow, right at the top of the link you gave me (cfhowlett) it says realtek a) is not recognized (to perform a lsusb to find its location id) and b) doesn't support wpa/wpa2, which of course is my chosen security protocol… need to check if the documentation for 10.04.4 had any realtek commentary (This doc is only up to 9.10)
[04:03] <DropsOfSerenity> can someone send me a test messages, just for testing?
[04:04] <schelry> cfhowlett, I used the file explorer to look for the appropriate "inf" file, but only found inf's that related to something else
[04:04] <[[thufir]]1> is it ok to burn 2+ GB files to DVD-R?  It's giving a warning.
[04:05] <sacarlson> [[thufir]]1: I thought dvd holds about 4 gb
[04:05] <cdo> hi
[04:06] <[[thufir]]1> exactly.  it's talking about an iso standard, which I'm googling.  two 2.2GB files are burning.
[04:07] <cdo> i have an old laptop that i was thinking about putting ubuntu on (1ghz celeron, 512mb ram) and i was wondering if lubuntu or xubuntu would be better
[04:07] <dr_willis> lubuntu may be a better option
[04:07] <sacarlson> [[thufir]]1: I guess there might be a limit to boot an iso from usb biger than 2gb as they use fat file format limits
[04:07] <Dogears> Xubuntu works great on that  spec
[04:08] <[[thufir]]1> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_9660#The_2.2F4_GiB_file_size_limit   I dunno.  I mean, it's burning.  It's just that the *file* itself is 2GB+.  hmm.
[04:08] <KM0201_> xubuntu (w/ xfce4) has been a major letdown, i'd agree to look at lubuntu on that machine
[04:08] <cdo> what are the big differences between the two?
[04:08] <dr_willis> ive not even tried xubuntu in ages. i just use lubuntu on low end systems
[04:08] <Mitchell92> Hello... where I can I find the package that contains libcollada14dom.so?
[04:08] <KM0201_> cdo: the main one, lxde doesn't suck... :)  seriously, lubuntu is "lighter" than xfce, especially xfce4..
[04:09] <dr_willis> !find libcollada
[04:09] <KM0201> woops
[04:09] <KM0201> didn't realize i was here twice
[04:09] <cdo> all right thanks
[04:10] <Dogears> why do I get this message following an upgrade to 11.04? The disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present all was working fine before the upgrade
[04:10] <KM0201> cdo: it's all "still ubuntu"... it's really just window dressing... but the problem is, that "window dressing" on xubuntu, has some real bloat
[04:11] <dr_willis> "desktop enviroment"
[04:11] <KM0201> window dressing, desktop environment, same thing...lol
[04:11] <dr_willis> err.. not really
[04:12] <cdo> the laptop that i want to put it on already has windows xp on it. if i burn the lubuntu image to a cd and install it from boot (or from windows if possible?), will it automatically give me a menu to choose between which os after it's installed?
[04:12] <Mitchell92> dr_willis: any advice on what i should do?
[04:12] <satyanash> yea.. Window Decorations can be changed regardless of Desktop environment..
[04:12] <KM0201> cdo: yes, (i wouldn't install from inside windows, but thats me).. but setting up a dual boot system is easy
[04:13] <dr_willis> Mitchell92:  use the search feature of the package managers. what needs that lib?
[04:13] <quixotedon> cdo: yes, dual boot installation is much easy now
[04:13] <Mitchell92> secondlife.
[04:13] <cdo> ok i will try it in a bit thanks!
[04:13] <dr_willis> !games
[04:13] <Mitchell92> it works on another box runnig opensuse
[04:14] <Mitchell92> but i just put a fresh install of ubuntu on another machine and it's not working.
[04:14] <dr_willis> Mitchell92:  makes sence if it needs a lib you dont have installed
[04:15] <dr_willis> !secondlife
[04:16] <samster34> hi...I've been trying to install ubuntu but install or running it from a live cd both freeze :/
[04:17] <hydrox24> is there a way to get the last few minutes of conversation on #ubuntu after just joining?
[04:17] <dr_willis> !log
[04:17] <log> What.
[04:17] <hydrox24> samster34: freeze as in you are unable to do ANYTHING? and you must shutdown by holdin the power button/>
[04:18] <log> !pm | hydrox24
[04:18] <samster34> yes. this occurs shortly after it says something about detecting the video card, possibly while detecting the network chip
[04:18] <dr_willis> samster34:  you did verify the iso file was good?
[04:18] <[[thufir]]1> for a Pentium 4 system with 2GB DDR RAM system, will that be ok with ubuntu 11.10 from the alternate cd?
[04:18] <samster34> yes, in fact I#ve tried several older versions and other distros as well
[04:18] <hydrox24> thanks dr_willis but is there a way to access them from my client (irssi)
[04:19] <Mitchell92> I'm frustrated.
[04:19] <schelry> cfhowlett: still here?
[04:19] <dr_willis> hydrox24: access what
[04:19] <hydrox24> dr_willis: the logs
[04:19] <waxstone> samster34, as you are booting up press shift for the grub menu, press e add nomodeset to kernal line
[04:19] <hydrox24> so that I can get up to speen on a conversation?
[04:20] <dr_willis> hydrox24:  there are console web browseres
[04:20] <hydrox24> dr_willis: OK, so basically I have to use lynx, it's not possible from irssi?
[04:20] <dr_willis> Mitchell92:  askubuntu.com may have a guide on the topic
[04:20] <Mitchell92> ok
[04:20] <samster34> waxstone: I pressed tab on the cd's screen for running or installing linux, and added that option there...same thing or not?
[04:21] <dr_willis> hydrox24:  irc client is not a web browser.... normally...
[04:21] <waxstone> samster34, yes thats the same
[04:21] <samster34> no result then
[04:21] <hydrox24> log: sorry, I thought you were a bot
[04:22] <log> No. :(
[04:22] <hydrox24> log: I typed help hoping to get some sort of output from you.
[04:22] <waxstone> samster34, delete everything after /casper/initrd.lz and add quiet splash nomodeset
[04:22]  * hydrox24 facepalms himself
[04:23] <schelry> ok opening up this question to the room: do you know if the full install live cd for 10.04.4 includes packages that were not installed during the normal process? E.g., without network access, is there a way to install ndiswrapper or wicd?
[04:23] <hydrox24> samster34: after trying what waxstone is suggesting, try using a netinstall/alternate install so that you are less likely to have graphics card issues
[04:24] <samster34> I did try a debian netinstall, no luck with that
[04:24] <dr_willis> schelry: i dont think so
[04:25] <schelry> dr_willis, ok how about this. Since I have networking on my mac, how would I go about downloading the necessary packages so I can put them on a disk/usb and then go about installing them from the drive onto the linux box?
[04:25] <schelry> any idea?
[04:25] <sacarlson> schelry: there are tools to install packages without network access
[04:25] <dr_willis> schelry:  thats doable.
[04:26] <terry_> hi
[04:29] <schelry> dr_willis: forgive me if this is a stupid question… how?
[04:29] <dr_willis> schelry:  no idea. id set um network shareing and run a cable. :)
[04:29] <sacarlson> schelry: maybe with APTonCD https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/add-applications/C/offline.html
[04:30] <satyanash> schelry, you could get a list of all the .deb files that need to be downloaded and then get them on the mac. Then do a mass dpkg..
[04:30] <samster34> okay, I tried nomodeset again, I actually get further with that, I get to a purple screen that says ubuntu, and a bunch of call/stack trace listings
[04:30] <talalala> will the tor browser work with ubuntu?
[04:31] <almoxarife> talalala: yes
[04:31] <dr_willis> tor is not a browser.
[04:31] <schelry> dr_willis: my network is already shared but unfortunately the cable modem I have has only the one input… can't run a cable to the other computer… (Wired would be awesome but… not willing to make the primary computer have no internet)
[04:32] <almoxarife> dr_willis: he means the packaged one, tor and browser all in a box
[04:32] <waxstone> samster34, hmm sorry thats all ive got...
[04:32] <dr_willis> schelry:  s2itch the cable for the 10 min it wi take to get the files..
[04:32] <talalala> dr_willis
[04:32] <talalala> the tor browser bundle
[04:32] <schelry> sacarlson: checking out that link. Thx! stayanash: where could I get a list of the .deb files I need? I'm kinda lost once we get past the whole official distribution point.
[04:32] <talalala> vidillia
[04:32] <samster34> I can get linux mint in compatibility mode to start into a shell off the cd...but don't know what I would do once there
[04:33] <_numbers> anyone know of a good linux solution for multi-dvdr burning? like if i want to backup a large capacity raid array to span a series of DVD-R discs by burning one-at-a-time?
[04:33] <almoxarife> talalala: yes the bundle works in ubuntu
[04:33] <sacarlson> schelry: the apttocd does the work of finding what deb files are needed and downloads them
[04:33] <talalala> cool
[04:33] <talalala> any of them?
[04:33] <schelry> dr_willis: it never is only 10 min. every time there's a change to this home network I lose networking for a week_+. I am past the point where just switching cables is something I want to try….
[04:33] <talalala> or does it have to be ubuntu oriented?
[04:33] <dr_willis> samster34:  see the mint support channels
[04:33] <schelry> (that's what I get for using the hardware supplied by comcast)
[04:33] <talalala> try to put down what you dont understand dr willis
[04:34] <almoxarife> talalala: not all, the 'deb' version 32/64 bit depends on your system
[04:34] <talalala> TOR BROWSER BUNDLE
[04:34] <talalala> xcaps
[04:34] <samster34> dr_willis: yeah I guess, but not really what I was looking for
[04:34] <talalala> deb?
[04:34] <talalala> link to deb version
[04:34] <talalala> the deb versio nwill work?
[04:34] <dr_willis> schelry:  a home router may be a good investment for you.
[04:35] <almoxarife> talalala: I take that back, its not a deb download, it's a compressed file that you unzip into a folder
[04:35] <samster34> what do all the stack: call trace: code: <hex numbers> mean :/
[04:36] <talalala> oh
[04:36] <talalala> can u link me please
[04:36] <waxstone> samster34, can you put an enxample of what you are seeing into pastebin?
[04:36] <almoxarife> talalala: but you could install tor and vidalia and use your own browser, not as safe as the 'tor-browser' bundle though, get the bundle
[04:37] <schelry> sacarlson: Thank you thank you thank you! I think that link you gave me gives me the answer I need to install from the installer cd… it tells me the "origin" trick that I was missing. Giving that a try… (aptoncd will be the next step if that doesnt work)
[04:38] <schelry> dr_willis: I have a home router, belkin, wireless g, however the cable modem from comcast does NOT have enough ports for me to do anything other than link the one pc to the one cable modem (no router capabilities). I guess it assumes other computers would access the network wirelessly, which tehy should/would/could if i could get this linux box to use its wireless card.
[04:38] <samster34> here : http://pastebin.com/fnLhY7ci
[04:39] <schelry> putting the old router into the mix won't work because then it will leave out the cable modem, and then i'd have a lan without internet
[04:39] <sacarlson> talalala: did you look at this http://www.webupd8.org/2010/09/how-to-install-tor-in-ubuntu-1010.html
[04:39] <almoxarife> talalala: google 'tor browser bundle' , don't d/l from a second party
[04:40] <waxstone> samster34, have you checked the cd for errors?
[04:40] <samster34> I've been doing this off of USB flash drives
[04:40] <almoxarife> sacarlson: no, he wants 'tor browser bundle' it's a complete setup, works great
[04:41] <MimosakaRyou> anyone have been experiencing any keyboard lag on ubuntu lucid?
[04:41] <waxstone> !usb
[04:44] <Vinnie_win> git output doesn't show colors in my ubuntu terminal
[04:44] <sacarlson> MimosakaRyou: at times I have key lags in firefox I think it's java releated
[04:45] <lya> bonjours , il y a t'il du monde
[04:45] <sacarlson> Vinnie_win: if you want color in git you should try gitg  the gui for git
[04:46] <Vinnie_win> sacarlson: I'm just looking for some color in my git status output
[04:46] <dr_willis> schelry:  i just go modem -- router -- rest of the lan.  some of my pcs are wired to the router. others are wireless. i do have to power off the modem if i switch routers,
[04:46] <Vinnie_win> sacarlson: ...is color not a feature of the default ubuntu terminal?
[04:47] <sacarlson> Vinnie_win: yes I think so but the output has to add codes to color it
[04:47] <dr_willis> Vinnie_win:  programs do colors.. ls --color
[04:47] <Vinnie_win> dr_willis: Yes I see. So its with git
[04:48] <tiox> [Ubuntu 11.10] Something funny is happening to the laptop battery in my PC.
[04:48] <MimosakaRyou> sacarlson : yeah same here but now it's gettin worst. it's gettin quite often it's getting on my nerves
[04:48] <Vinnie_win> dr_willis: Hooray! "git config --global color.ui true" was the proper incantation
[04:48] <tiox> It said it was at 50% even though the laptop itself physically said it's full. Then I pull the abttery out and put it back in while hooked up to AC, was that the right thing to do or was/is there something else I could do?
[04:49] <tiox> battery*
[04:49] <tiox> Oh, I put it back in and locked it back up, everything seems A-ok.
[04:49] <hydrox24> tiox: cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/info
[04:49] <hydrox24> mayber BAT0 but that should give you the most accurate info possible.
[04:49] <tiox> WOuld require me installing acpi, lol
[04:50] <tiox> Oh.
[04:50] <Eruadan>  hi, i had installed the full ruby/aand rails with rvm, rails and refinery engine. all went fine, after generating the app i went to the app folder and rails server. after few hours i had to install apache and php on the same machine, to open a php app. this morning, i went to the rails app folder and rails server command, but for some reason i get the message rails is not installed. i'm running ubuntu oneric, the last one, in a virtual box
[04:50] <sacarlson> MimosakaRyou: ya I even upgraded java hoping it would help but didn't,  you can look at the output of top to see what is using your resources
[04:51] <sacarlson> MimosakaRyou: I noted if I disable java in firefox that goes away but you can't always live without java
[04:51] <schelry> ugh ok dr willis i think you have me convinced. i'm going to try rewiring the whole shebang. which requires moving furniture but that's probably easier than finding the needle in the .deb file haystack sinc emy first 85 fix attempts have arrived at the big nadaenchilada
[04:51] <samster34> okay, I recreated the bootable usb flash drive from the guide you linked, with the tool suggested there...and now I don't even get to the CD's menu, just a flashing cursor on a black screen
[04:52] <almoxarife> tiox: how old is the batt?
[04:52] <enchilado> hey
[04:52] <enchilado> I was highlighted
[04:52] <enchilado> :o
[04:52] <tiox> Since I got the laptop; A few years.
[04:52] <enchilado> 'nadaenchilada'? O_o
[04:52]  * dr_willis puts salsa on enchilado 
[04:52] <enchilado> D:
[04:52] <schelry> enchilado: i typed "nadaenchilada" did that re-highlight you'?
[04:52] <tiox> It ewas designed to have 5800 mAh, currently has a little over 5000
[04:52] <enchilado> schelry: yeah, that was what did it. :P
[04:52] <tiox> Last full was 5291 mAh.
[04:53] <tiox> So yeah, it seems pretty alright.
[04:53] <schelry> well there you go. I guess you were the purpose of my haystack search… and now i've found you!
[04:53] <enchilado> :P
[04:53] <dr_willis> enchilado:  thats what you get for usig such a common term. ;)
[04:53] <tiox> Just funny GNOME's power indicator said <50%.
[04:53] <Eruadan> hi, i have installed ruby and rails stack on my ubuntu oneric. all was good.this morning i tried to start an app with a built in webrick server, and i got the message rails not installed, any ideas/
[04:53] <Eruadan> ?
[04:53] <dr_willis> Eruadan:  installed how
[04:53] <tiox> Eruadan: Canyou run it in the terminal and get more verbose error output?
[04:54] <MimosakaRyou> sacarlson : yeah man. i've tried that too and the lag really goes away. on top of that my resource isn't being used much. i wonder if everyone experiencing the same problem
[04:54] <lya> join ubuntu.fr
[04:54] <enchilado> schelry: does "have arrived at the big nadaenchilada" mean "have come to nothing"?
[04:54] <Eruadan> tiox and dr_wilis, i will run it and give the raw error
[04:54] <lya> join #ubuntu.fr
[04:54] <log> lya: /join #ubuntu-fr
[04:55] <log> Or that.
[04:55] <lya> french
[04:55] <MimosakaRyou> sacarlson : and bro if u disabled key-repeat , the lag would be somewhat rarer , but still it's goin to occur
[04:55] <lya> join ubuntu.fr
[04:55] <schelry> -
[04:55] <MimosakaRyou> sacarlson : but not as often if u have key-repeat on
[04:55] <log> lya: /join #ubuntu-fr
[04:55] <hydrox24> lya: you need a forward slash infront of "join" e.g. "/join"
[04:56] <sacarlson> MimosakaRyou: I'm not sure I have the same problem as you as I see spikes in top when I have my problem
[04:57] <samster34> waxstone: I redid the flash drive with the tool suggestedon the page you linked, and it works even less than before
[04:57] <Eruadan> tiox, this is the error, The program 'rails' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[04:57] <Eruadan> tiox, i might have to say that i had installed apache2 and php5, only after that it didn't work
[04:57] <hydrox24> Eruadan: is rails related to the rails that you want? I know it sounds simple but it is worth checking
[04:58] <schelry> ok testing...
[04:58] <waxstone> samster34,  what is the last thing it says before dying now?
[04:58] <samster34> nothing
[04:58] <samster34> I don't even get into the CDs launcher/menu
[04:58] <Eruadan> hydrox24, what do you mean?
[04:58] <samster34> I get a brief flash of a purple screen, then black screen and flashing cursor
[04:59] <schelry> whoops, sorry about that. alright so the fact that I can see stuff happening here means the mac is getting internet even though i've messed about with cables. now to see what's going on with the pc...
[04:59] <lerop> who is in charge of selinux for ubuntu that works for the company and is on irc
[04:59] <waxstone> samster34, there are a few known issues with USB installation the only help links I know are here. there are two links
[04:59] <waxstone> !usb | samster34
[05:00] <lerop> ill impove it 5 points
[05:00] <KM0201> lerop: what do you mean "who is in charge of selinux"?
[05:00] <lerop> browser and server security for next release
[05:00] <samster34> well, the tool I used to create the install flash drive before (universal usb installer) worked pretty well
[05:00] <log> lerop: /join #selinux
[05:01] <waxstone> samster34, still without success though.
[05:02] <samster34> if I really have to, I can burn a DVD
[05:02] <samster34> I can't afford to burn 20 different distros though :p
[05:02] <waxstone> samster34, sell the live cd to your neighbour after ;P
[05:03] <dr_willis> pendrivelinux tools can make multi distro usb drives
[05:03] <sesmer> why ubuntu over linux?
[05:03] <rbrooks> i so wish i could sell old Linux cds...
[05:04] <dr_willis> sesmer:  ubuntu is a linux distro.
[05:04] <sesmer> isnt linux more professional
[05:04] <waxstone> sesmer, ubuntu is linux ;)
[05:04] <dr_willis> rbrooks:  i got a few 100 ;)
[05:04] <rbrooks> ;)
[05:04] <Eruadan> problem solved ./script/rails server ;/, could you explain why that works and rails server, says rails not installed?
[05:04] <sesmer> yes but it is at the same time not linux
[05:05] <schelry> enchilado: that's what i meant before you got highlighted and i realized that what i really arrived at was your doorstep
[05:05] <enchilado> :P
[05:05] <dr_willis> sesmer:  every linux disrto is using the linux kernel... so its linux
[05:05] <schelry> dr_willis: well, it seems that now my router is part of the setup, the mac still gets internet and the ubuntu box still doesn't… having a hard wire going from the router to the linuxbox didn't achieve diddly, even after restart
[05:06] <dr_willis> schelry:  check ifconfig, and netwoek manager.  also check the cables perhaps
[05:07] <waxstone> sesmer, ubuntu is GNU/linux but thats a whole other kettle of fish ;P
[05:08] <sesmer> Is linux on itself is more reputable?
[05:08] <dr_willis> sesmer:  there is no 'just linux'
[05:09] <dr_willis> linux on itself = just the kernel
[05:10] <sesmer> ooh i see
[05:10] <sesmer> but is ubuntu used commercially ?
[05:10] <dr_willis> thats whet we have been saying.. ;) sort of...
[05:10] <schelry> dr_willis, it seems my problem is a missing power cord… i'm actually surprised that the router is working without it for the main mac connection.
[05:10] <sesmer> i see that ubuntu is linux yes
[05:10] <Jordan_U> sesmer: Yes.
[05:10] <dr_willis> schelry:  need moar powar scotty!
[05:11] <schelry> sesmer, lots of companies use the ubuntu server edition for their servers
[05:11] <samster34> waxstone: while without success, I tested them and the flash drives prepared with universal usb installer boot fine on my other copmputer
[05:11] <dr_willis> sesmer:  yes... all linux distros are 'linux'
[05:11] <schelry> unfortunately, I've gone through my bag o' wires and not found one that fits.
[05:11] <sesmer> but are they all equally reputable to an employer
[05:11] <schelry> like goldilocks, except without the middle-sized connector.
[05:12] <sesmer> to say i know ubunut vs .....
[05:12] <Shirakawasuna> sesmer: Each piece of linux can be viewed separately as a thing to leran
[05:12] <Shirakawasuna> *learn
[05:12] <dr_willis> schelry:  evety time i get a new gizmo i mark the power supply with a marker
[05:12] <Jordan_U> sesmer: It probably depends on the employer, and this is getting pretty offtopic. Please continue in #ubuntu-offtopic (this channel is strictly for Ubuntu support only).
[05:13] <waxstone> samster34, I dont doubt that. Something different on this box is preventing the install. Hardware,BIOS, who knows,keep posting your problem a USB install  master will show up and help you
[05:13] <sesmer> oh my bad ty
[05:13] <samster34> there are some errors while it's enumerating the usb devices
[05:13] <Jordan_U> sesmer: You're welcome.
[05:13] <samster34> no idea if that's normal or not.
[05:14] <schelry> well, i figured out the reason the mac is getting internet is because it's set up to use the modem as a wifi access point, so the lack of a cord running to the mac isn't a problem. the presence of a cord running to the pc doesnt help without the power cord for the router.
[05:14] <samster34> fedora install even froze during the usb errors
[05:14] <schelry> so i'm right back to the whole, can't get internet on the pc
[05:14] <schelry> so, going back to sacarlson's link for aptoncd
[05:14] <waxstone> samster34, try another brand of usb if possible
[05:15] <almoxarife> hate it when my fedora freezes
[05:15] <samster34> I have tried the two different ones I have available, a lexar, and a sandisk cruzr
[05:15] <log> !rootirc | Guest77151
[05:16] <sacarlson> samster34: maybe look at nomodeset boot option to see if your system will boot with that
[05:17] <Guest77151> yes, i understand. i am using openbsd 4.7 with irssi as a console.
[05:17] <samster34> sacarlson: tried that, screen full of stack traces is the result
[05:17] <samster34> they look like this: http://pastebin.com/fnLhY7ci
[05:17] <sacarlson> samster34: oh are you trying 64bit kernel on a 32bit procesor?
[05:17] <Jordan_U> Guest77151: Just because you're using openbsd doesn't mean you can't or shouldn't switch to another user for running irssi.
[05:17] <pkh> I need to do some tech support for my dad (wee're both using ubuntu, both behind nat) -- is there anything that will be simple to setup that will do the job?
[05:18] <dr_willis> pkh:  teamviewer works well
[05:18] <dr_willis> pkh:  then theres good old ssh
[05:18] <samster34> sacarlson: it's an intel Q8300, I'm pretty sure it's 64 bit
[05:19] <pkh> dr_willis, i could do most if not all via ssh, but punching back and forth through nat's is a pain in tha ass.
[05:19] <log> pkh: I'd recommend TeamViewer as well.
[05:19] <dr_willis> pkh:  i just set up port forwarding.
[05:19] <pkh> solution at the moment is skype and me telling him where to move the mouse instead of moving it myself...
[05:19] <Guest77151> i am new to irssi and ubuntu channel. what do you mean switching to another user?
[05:20] <pkh> dr_willis, both of us move around -- that's fine when we're both at home...
[05:20] <dr_willis> pkh:  dyndns )
[05:20] <pkh> looks like teamviewer is worth a look, cheers.
[05:20] <dr_willis> teamviewer does work well
[05:20] <Jordan_U> Guest77151: Quit irssi, "su some_non_root_user", then start irssi again as the new, non-root, user.
[05:20] <pkh> dr_willis, still need to punch through whatever nat's are between us
[05:20] <pkh> dyndns is setup on both pc.s already.
[05:21] <sacarlson> samster34: stack traces come up at what time?  can you see what the last attempted init activity was?
[05:21] <LukeNukem> i sit me or is facebook down?
[05:21] <Jordan_U> !ot | LukeNukem
[05:21] <samster34> sacarlson: no, the screens full of text are gone by that time. these appear on a purple screen that says "ubuntu 12.04"
[05:21] <dr_willis> theres some 'down for just me' web site
[05:22] <Guest77151> i see. i will leave.
[05:22] <sacarlson> samster34: oh try ubuntu 11.10 or maybe you tried that already
[05:22] <samster34> I've tried 10.04
[05:22] <sadov> somebody tell me what is the feeling when you see an obituary on your front door with your name?
[05:23] <Jordan_U> !ot | sadov
[05:23] <waxstone> !ubuntu+1 | samster34,
[05:23] <sacarlson> samster34: and 10.04 has same results with stack trace?
[05:23] <samster34> I'll have to try
[05:26] <schelry> dr_willis, i managed to track down a powercord that hadn't mad it into my bag o' wires, and it works. unfortunately, even after restart, the wired connection on the pc still isn't showing up. (there's a red exclamation point).
[05:27] <AiSkWaD> áëÿ åñòü êòî íèòü êòî íà ðóññêîì ïîíèìàåò?
[05:27] <waxstone> !en|AiSkWaD,
[05:27] <sirdork> good evening all.  Is there anyone here who might be able to help me with setting up postfix I can't get it work correctly.
[05:27] <dr_willis> schelry:  use the shell. see if you got an ip. see if you can ping the router
[05:27] <LukeNukem> oink oink
[05:27] <LukeNukem> how can i set dns in ubuntu?
[05:27] <LukeNukem> like 8.8.8.8
[05:27] <AiSkWaD> oohh sorry
[05:28] <dr_willis> LukeNukem:  network manager has settings for that
[05:28] <waxstone> AiSkWaD, what language do you speak?
[05:28] <AiSkWaD> russian
[05:28] <LukeNukem> io have network tools
[05:28] <LukeNukem> not a network manager
[05:28] <waxstone> !ru| AiSkWaD
[05:28] <AiSkWaD> ok thanks
[05:29] <LukeNukem> dr_willis, do i need to download it
[05:29] <dr_willis> LukeNukem:  its installed by default normally
[05:29] <LukeNukem> dr_willis, whats the name of the app exactly?
[05:29] <hoshi411_> why does the ubuntu precise xchat lack so many features?? is it just a new version?
[05:29] <hoshi411_> is there some kind of feature filled xchat out there?
[05:29] <hoshi411_> plugins Im missing or something?
[05:29] <schelry1> ok, brief logout due to powering up the modem again...
[05:30] <LukeNukem> dr_willis, is it network proxy?
[05:30] <dr_willis> LukeNukem:  no idea. icon at the top right normally. or try nm{tab}
[05:30] <Jordan_U> hoshi411_: You might be confused about the difference between xchat and xchat-gnome.
[05:30] <hoshi411_> i can't set the fonts and colors and tabs at bottom
[05:30] <AiSkWaD> from the server?
[05:30] <sadov> иоб твоя матъ
[05:30] <hoshi411_> Jordan_U, yes , is there a difference?
[05:30] <hoshi411_> yea i have xchat gnome
[05:30] <dr_willis> hoshi411_:  major differances
[05:30] <hoshi411_> wow... i see
[05:30] <hoshi411_> had no idea
[05:31] <Jordan_U> hoshi411_: Yes. That's why they're two different packages.
[05:31] <dr_willis> most people hate xchat-gnome
[05:31] <hoshi411_> brb
[05:31] <hoshi411_> thanks everybody
[05:31] <AiSkWaD> waxstone from the server?
[05:31] <Vinnie_win> any volunteers want to do my work for me? I need a Makefile for my project...
[05:31] <sirdork> anyone able to help with getting postfix working?
[05:32] <ranjan> Hi all, i am facing timeouts when connecting to proxy server from a LAN , but from the same LAN a centos box doesnt have any problem. what might be the reason?
[05:32] <waxstone> AiSkWaD,  type "/join #ubuntu-ru"
[05:33] <samster34> waxstone: okay, tinkerig with a mint live cd's shell that I got running, it seems to be a problem with the xorg config
[05:33] <waxstone> !mint | samster34
[05:33] <AiSkWaD> waxstone No thanks, it is interesting here =) but where are all these people? =)
[05:33] <samster34> I know that
[05:33] <samster34> but if the issue is the same, how would I go about doing something about that in ubuntu
[05:33] <pi3ch> any mutt users here?
[05:33] <bazhang> AiSkWaD, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic not here please
[05:34] <waxstone> AiSkWaD, you are welcome here =) just ask questions in english please
[05:34] <sadov> there is an obituary with your name at the front door
[05:34] <dr_willis> replace your xorg.conf with one that works..
[05:34] <dr_willis> x normally dosent need an xorg.conf these days.
[05:34] <samster34> dr_willis: yeah...what works for now is no config. But how do I tell that to ubuntu, when I can't run or install it?
[05:35] <pi3ch> any one has experience with mutt?
[05:35] <dr_willis> samster34:  boot to console. rename it..
[05:35] <samster34> how?
[05:35] <dr_willis> !text
[05:35] <AiSkWaD> waxstone of course =) could not help me? =)
[05:35] <dr_willis> or use recovery/rescue mode... or text mode
[05:36] <samster34> and once there, if I succeed, can I install ubuntu from the live mode?
[05:36] <waxstone> AiSkWaD, Ask everyone about ubuntu problem here, someone will try to help
[05:36] <dr_willis> samster34:  i dont know what you are trying to do exactly...
[05:36] <corsata> why skype doesnt run on 11.10
[05:36] <tintoy> hi anyone can help me to install security updates only via command line in ubuntu?
[05:36] <AiSkWaD> waxstone Well this is a personal question =)
[05:37] <dr_willis> samster34:  you can rename your xorg.conf from a rescue or text console
[05:37] <waxstone> AiSkWaD, personal questions go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:37] <AiSkWaD> ok thanks
[05:37] <samster34> dr_willis: I don't have ubuntu installed yet, and I can't install it until I get this resolved :)
[05:37] <pi3ch> tintoy: just run sudo apt-get update folow by sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:38] <tintoy> pi3ch: thank you so much
[05:39] <hoshi411_> thanks
[05:47] <brajesh> hello out there
[05:48] <brajesh> java
[05:51] <waxstone> !java | brajesh
[05:51] <samster34_> dr_willis: ok, trying to boot ubuntu from the flash drive in text mode, but now it freezes after saying something along the lines of "vblank supported "
[05:53] <lerop> fenris gave pi to ubuntu cops here for selinux and it belongs exclusively to fedora.
[05:53] <samster34> and using both nomodeset and text gets me back to the purple screen with the call trace
[05:54] <bazhang> lerop, pardon?
[05:54] <bai_hui> how to fix Skype on ubuntu 11.10
[05:54] <szal> define 'fix'
[05:54] <dr_willis> !skype
[05:56] <samster34> also, that page does not seem to contain any info on text mode
[05:56] <bai_hui> !skype
[05:56] <nick> hey i have an audio input question can someone help?
[05:56] <szal> Guest53126: not without knowing the issue
[05:56] <bai_hui> !telnet
[05:57] <bazhang> bai_hui, thats enough
[05:57] <bai_hui> ?
[05:57] <Guest53126> i'm using julius-4.2.1 to take input from an audio device
[05:57] <dr_willis> !fish
[05:57] <Guest53126> so julius-4.2.1 -input mic
[05:57] <Guest53126> however it defaults to the internal mic on my laptop, i want to select my usb microphone how do i select it
[05:57] <Guest53126> i tried setting AUDIODEV=hw:1,0
[05:57] <Guest53126> but didn't work
[05:58] <soreau> Guest53126: Did you try clicking on the sound icon and select preferences then look at the output devices tab?
[05:58] <dr_willis> Guest53126:  the pavcontrol tools may let you select
[05:59]  * bai_hui slaps bazhang around a bit with a large trout
[05:59] <samster34> dr_willis: I can't seem to enter text mode
[06:00] <dr_willis> samster34:  the grubs rescue, or recovery mode should work about the same.
[06:00] <dr_willis> you basically replace the 'quiet splash' with 'text' in the grub entry
[06:01] <samster34> I've been adding it behind the splash
[06:01] <dr_willis> remove quiet splash, add text
[06:01] <samster34> trying now
[06:01] <seekwill> Hello. Is there an IRC channel or forum focusing on Ubuntu server?
[06:01] <samster34> enumerating those usb devices takes ages
[06:01] <Guest53126> hmm yeah neither worked i could only disable the internal mic
[06:01] <Guest53126> won't let me set up the usb one
[06:02] <dr_willis> or use noquiet nosplash nofb text
[06:03] <samster34> line it froze after is now forcedeth 0000:00:0f .0: highdma pwrctrl mgmt gbit lnktim msi desc-
[06:04] <soreau> ! server | seekwill
[06:04] <seekwill> ah, awesome. Thanks!
[06:06] <maum> I did sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer but the website which has flash telling me that upgrade the flash version
[06:06] <samster34> dr_willis: ok, using noquiet nosplach nofb text, it stops progressing earlier after the line "EDD information not available" with a flashing cursor
[06:07] <samster34> *nosplash
[06:07] <dr_willis> you should be  getting s login: prompt somewhere  try alt-ctrl-f1 through 6,  hit enter a few times
[06:08] <samster34> the keyboard is dead
[06:08] <Guest53126> urgh i have no devices listed under input devices in my sound preferences
[06:10] <lawltoad> hey, so my sound is dead, how do i restart the whole subsystem
[06:10] <lawltoad> ?
[06:10] <dr_willis> samster34:  no idea then. sounds like you got deeper issues going on
[06:10] <voglster> ok so i have a friend who really effed up an old linux system.. ubuntu 8 he upgraded to ubuntu 10 and it wont boot... im thinking mostly because of switching grub...
[06:11] <voglster> i have since replaced back down to grub1 but the main hd was a fake raid we have removed the raid system hooked up 1 hard drive (it was a mirrored set) and i am currently trying to get the system to boot
[06:11] <MK`> If I am on Ubuntu 10.04 when 12.04 comes out, will the upgrade button upgrade me to 11.10 or directly to 12.04?
[06:11] <schelry1> uh, ok. i'm stymied again. what happens if I know i have a realtek 8190 wlan controller (gotten from the grep command search) but realtek's website doesn't include software for that number? (8168, 8188, 8192, but no 8190
[06:11] <goddard> I'm having some run away process that is really laggying my system can some one help debug?
[06:11] <voglster> anyone have any suggestions? for some reason when i try to install grub to sda its pointing back to /dev/mapper/xxx still
[06:12] <dr_willis> you can go lts to lts.... or step by step
[06:12] <schelry1> when i search realtek for 8190 it comes up with 8192
[06:12] <MK`> Ah, how do I go step by step? Can I use a CD?
[06:12] <Guest53126> does anyone know how to use AUDIODEV to set an input mic device?
[06:12] <goddard> is lightdm suppose to take 66 to 80% of my CPU?
[06:13] <kenro> Anyone have any advice on fixing a sticky spacebar without using tolls?
[06:13] <dr_willis> MK`:  you can upgrade  10.04-10.10-11.04-11.10-1.04       or go lts to lts.  but i always do clean installs
[06:14] <kenro> s/tolls/tools
[06:14] <talalala> hey
[06:14] <talalala> try to put down what you dont understand dr willis
[06:14] <samster34> ok, I just burned it do a dvd and tried to boot from there, don't even get to the menu where I can select whether to install or run, just a black screen with flashing cursor
[06:14] <MK`> Physically sticky, because something spilled on it? Or some software problem kenro ?
[06:14] <dr_willis> kenro:  qtip and some distilled water... depends on why its sticking
[06:14] <maum> help me
[06:14] <maum> ...
[06:15] <maum> I did sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer but the website which has flash telling me that upgrade the flash version
[06:15] <harsh343> sudo: /etc/sudoers.d/README is mode 0755, should be 0440 I got an error what i am trying is
[06:15] <harsh343> Reboot PC
[06:15] <harsh343> hit chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers in terminal under recovery mode
[06:15] <harsh343> but same problem remains
[06:15] <schelry1> does anyone know the linux kernel number for 10.04.4?
[06:15] <dr_willis> maum:  sites that tell you to upgrade flash are often wrong.. ;)
[06:15] <kenro> MK`: prolly soda pop mixed with sleep depr drool...
[06:16] <harsh343> what i can do ?
[06:16] <maum> dr_willis: what's that mean?
[06:16] <MK`> Most keyboards nowadays are modular, you can just pull out the spacebar key and clean it and put it back in
[06:16] <waxstone> samster34, what version of ubuntu have you burnt to dvd?
[06:16] <mentok> doing googling, I keep getting pointed to bash, is there a method to just cp a file and add the timestamp on a oneoff basis?
[06:16] <MK`> The only difference is the spacebar has 2 tiny metal bars on it because of its length, but that's no issue.
[06:16] <mentok> this wont be done frequently so I don't need to automate it with bash
[06:16] <maum> dr_willis: the other site also same
[06:16] <kenro> MK`: This one is hp mini, with atom cpu... modern enough?
[06:16] <nickzilla> does anyone know how to set my audio input device for julius?
[06:17] <dr_willis> maum:  what sites..
[06:17] <harsh343> dr_willis, any ans for me
[06:17] <MK`> maum: https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[06:17] <kija987> does anyone know any system resource logger for ubuntu?
[06:17] <maum> dr_willis: http://apps.facebook.com/playcastleville/index.php
[06:17] <samster34> if I install ubuntu on one pc, and then move the install to another pc with different hardware - is there any chance of it working?
[06:18] <mentok> kija987: top?
[06:18] <dr_willis> samster34:  video card will be the biggest issue
[06:18] <samster34> it's not all that different, both intel CPUs, both nvidia gfx cards, but different chipsets and everything
[06:18] <dr_willis> samster34:  but it can work
[06:19] <kija987> @mentok: can i write the output onto a file?
[06:19] <kenro>                                                                        
[06:19] <mentok> yep
[06:19] <mentok> top > file.txt
[06:19] <kija987> mentok: thanks
[06:19] <mentok> sure thing
[06:19] <Dogears> how can I copy the home directory to a USB stick from the terminal?
[06:19] <maum> MK`: I installed flash player 11 version from software center or apt-get but flash site does not working well.
[06:19] <samster34> then I guess I'll try installing on my main computer, deleting the xorg config, and moving it to the other computer...
[06:19] <samster34> brb
[06:20] <goddard> Dogears: cp
[06:20] <MK`> maum: what version does it say you have?
[06:20] <ilon_> Dogears: cp /home/user /media/usbdev
[06:20] <MK`> kenro: should be fine, especially for a laptop
[06:20] <maum> MK`: how can I check the version?
[06:20] <kenro>                                                           c
[06:20] <Dogears> thanks
[06:20] <oppalovesme> hi 1472 people
[06:20] <TurtleEater> 1473
[06:20] <MK`> maum: the website I linke, https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[06:20] <oppalovesme> indeed
[06:21] <voglster> im tring to install grub bt i do a grub-install /dev/sda and i get "/dev/mapper/pdc_ebbfhjbb1: Not found or not a block device." any ideas?
[06:21] <TurtleEater> 1474
[06:21] <ponrajuganesh> Greetings!!!
[06:21] <oppalovesme> so what goes down in here?
[06:21] <TurtleEater> 1475
[06:21] <ponrajuganesh> I need to find whether the "sample" is found in a string something like "hai tehre sample" - if it found it must resturn some - how could this be done
[06:21] <ponrajuganesh> which command will help
[06:21] <maum> MK`: Linux Firefox	11.1.102.63
[06:21] <ilon_> ponrajuganesh: grep
[06:21] <dr_willis> ponrajuganesh:  grep.. what do you want it to return?
[06:22] <MK`> That is the current version maum. The problem must lie elsewhere
[06:22] <waxstone> !ot
[06:22] <ponrajuganesh> I just need to know whether the word is found or not that's it dr_willis
[06:22] <MK`> ^
[06:22] <dr_willis> ponrajuganesh:  grep sets return codes...
[06:22] <nickzilla> god dammit it shouldn't be so freaking difficult just to select a freaking microphone
[06:22] <maum> MK`: is there a way to check if the flash player is installed?
[06:22] <ponrajuganesh> any tutorial what am I to Google dr_willis
[06:22] <dr_willis> ponrajuganesh:  bash scripting guide perhaps?
[06:23] <dr_willis> !abs
[06:23] <MK`> maum: That page just told you it is, and that you have the current version.
[06:23] <maum> MK`: every flash site is not working
[06:23] <MK`> maum: I am not a flash expert, that's as far as I can take you.
[06:23] <Dogears> ilon_: omitting directory /home/user - what does this mean?
[06:23] <kenro> MK`: Ah So...you possess hidden wisdom, grasshopper, Now... to put it all back together...
[06:24] <maum> MK`: sorry it says [you have version 10.1.999.0 installed]
[06:24] <ilon_> Dogears: cp -r makes it copy subdirectories aswell, might be what you want. :)
[06:24] <Dogears> thanks
[06:25] <ilon_> Dogears: no problem
[06:26]  * dr_willis wonders what is the latest flash version
[06:26] <harsh343> how to make user root in ubuntu??
[06:26] <bazhang> harsh343, use sudo
[06:26] <dr_willis> harsh343:  use sudo ,as needed. you dont normally login directly as root
[06:26] <ilon_> harsh343: you do not want your user to be root, use sudo
[06:26] <joebodo> !sudo
[06:27] <kija987> mentok: the output file im getting is in unreadable format
[06:27] <Dogears> ilon_: cannot create directory /media/usbdev read only file system - Ideas?
[06:28] <harsh343> I know that but right now i am facing some issues like sudo: /etc/sudoers.d/README is mode 0755, should be 0440 so what i can do ?
[06:28] <samster34> in the ubuntu installers partitioning menu, how do I mark a partition for swap usage?
[06:28] <mentok> ew so it is.
[06:28] <ilon_> Dogears: mount the USB with privileges to write to it as user, or try to do the copy as rot / with sudo
[06:29] <sacarlson> Dogears: live cd or wubi install by any chance?
[06:29] <ilon_> is this channel allways this busy in the mornings / this time?
[06:29] <Dogears> ilon_ : I tried sudo but it is the same. How do I mount with privilages?
[06:29] <dr_willis> ilon_:  not really
[06:29] <ilon_> Dogears: what is the filesystem on the usb?
[06:30] <ilon_> dr_willis: seems alot more active than normally..
[06:30] <Dogears> sacarlson: No Someone did an upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 and broke the thing!
[06:30] <harsh343> Help me http://pastebin.com/wvj39XBB
[06:30] <mentok> kija987: try this:
[06:31] <mentok> top -b > top.txt
[06:31] <samster34> anyone? how do I tell the installer what partition to use for swap
[06:31] <ilon_> samster34: advanced partitioning
[06:32] <dr_willis> i just click a few things and tell it to use it as swap i recall... not too hard
[06:32] <Dogears> ilon_: msdos 4gb usb stick - Does that mean it is fat16?
[06:32] <ilon_> samster34: the select the partition, change to "use" and select swap
[06:32] <samster34> ah, I was looking for a swap option in the moint point list
[06:33] <dr_willis> filesystem type = swap
[06:33] <kenro>     Hey MK` any advice on what order to reconnect this thing?
[06:33] <kija987> mentok: thanks a lot! it works :)
[06:33] <mentok> :) gladly
[06:33] <ilon_> Dogears: fat16 or fat32 i guess. are you using cli och x?
[06:33] <samster34> dr_willis: thanks
[06:34] <ilon_> Dogears: terminal i would guess, just double checking
[06:34] <Dogears> ilon_: Using the terminal
[06:35] <maum> I downloaded  Adobe Flash player 11 tarball ( .tar.gz )  and sudo cp libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin/. but flash website still not woking
[06:35] <sacarlson> Dogears: maybe with the command sudo mount ; you can find a mount point that is set to rw (read write)  maybe like in /home/yourusername ; should be in a writeable location
[06:35] <ilon_> Dogears: how do you mount the usb?
[06:35] <maum> and the version is still 10
[06:35] <maum> how can I fix this?
[06:36] <Dogears> ilon_: I didn't?
[06:36] <ilon_> Dogears: sudo bash & mkdir /mnt/usb & mount /dev/yourusb /mnt/usb
[06:37] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[06:37] <ilon_> oh, those netsplit still happens..
[06:37] <ilon_> neat
[06:37] <dr_willis> such is life on irc.
[06:37] <ilon_> dr_willis: so they say
[06:38] <Dogears> Is this like an eclipse?
[06:38] <ilon_> Dogears: this is the end of the internet.
[06:38] <Dogears> ilon: Do I type all of that ?
[06:39] <Dogears> I thought the internet was in a small box?
[06:39] <ilon_> Dogears: yes, but in the last command, replace 'yourusb/ with the actual device, like sdb1 or so
[06:39] <dr_willis> its lots of pipes full of cats...
[06:39] <dr_willis> bbl
[06:40] <Dogears> ilon_: How do I find what the actual devise is called?
[06:41] <ilon_> unplug it, type tail -f /var/log/messages, reinsert it and look for it
[06:41] <ilon_> Dogears: dunplug it, type tail -f /var/log/messages, reinsert it and look for it
[06:42] <ilon_> Dogears: but now i arrived at work, cant help you more. sorry.
[06:43] <maum> how to install flash 11 version? I still have 10 version.
[06:48] <samster34> dr_willis: well, okay there was no xorg.conf file on ubuntu in the first place...anyway I tried to move the install to the other computer and start it in text mode.
[06:48] <samster34> it even says I got to the built-in shell
[06:48] <samster34> but I can't type anything
[06:48] <samster34> or do anything
[06:48] <samster34> there is no prompt, and no flashing cursor either
     Hey MK` any advice on what order to reconnect this thing?
[06:49] <MK`> order?
[06:49] <Boffy> hello! i have a question. i used kdesudo to run dolphin, so i could set give right of new hard disk used for data to user. i've also marked it for sharing (wioth samba). hwoever later i realised i do not want to share the whole disk over network but only a folder that user would share. i marked it unshared, however dolphin is ignoring me
[06:49] <Boffy> after i click ok and check the propperties of disk again it is still shared just like before.
[06:49] <Boffy> any ideas how to "unshare" the whole disk?
[06:51] <sirdork> hey how do I set it up so I can connect to my Machine remotely ?
[06:52] <aarcane> sirdork, aptitude install openssh-server or ssh-server.  I forget which.  then forward port 22 from your router to your server.
[06:53] <hoshi411_> anyone here familiar with the raspberri pi?
[06:53] <hoshi411_> im concerned with what it ships with as a power adapter ?
[06:53] <sirdork> is it self explanatory?
[06:56] <waxstone> !ot | hoshi411
[06:57] <hoshi411_> ah ok . sorry about that : )
[06:57] <aarcane> sirdork, if you're even remotely familiar with networking, then it should be.  If you need more instructions, it's very easily googlable.
[06:58] <samster34> so, it seems I can't successfully run or install any kind of linux on this computer, while windows works fine.
[07:00] <kenro> Does anyone have any advice on what order to reconnect my spacebar?
[07:00] <samster34> ??
[07:01] <lipsinV2> #join #chromium
[07:01] <kenro> samster34: I had similar trouble re-installing a pirated win7...
[07:02] <samster34> well, I guess since linux tries very hard not to run, I'll just have to use windows
[07:02] <waxstone> samster34, is it windows 8 beta?
[07:02] <samster34> ?
[07:03] <samster34> there is no windows currently on the computer
[07:03] <samster34> but it ran win7 for months before
[07:03] <waxstone> oh ok, Ive heard win8 prevents install of other OS's
[07:04] <samster34> I've tried ubuntu 12, 10, mint, fedora, debian...
[07:04] <Rourick> 11.10 is latest? correct
[07:05] <samster34> mint I could actually get to launch in text mode, and start X from there, then proceed to install it, but the installed one wont even launch into text mode...
[07:05] <waxstone> Rourick, yes. 12.04 is in beta to be released end on april
[07:06] <samster34> it's a little frustrating, seeing how all the versions I've tried work flawlessly on my main computer
[07:06] <Rourick> waxstone thanks wasn't sure
[07:06] <waxstone> samster34,  for text mode press E in grub menu when you highlight recoverymode. then replace recovery with text in kernal line
[07:07] <root________> samster34, what can you tell us about the specs?  Have you some older distros?  old slack, puppy, or even an archaic debian or ubuntu ?
[07:07] <Syria> Hello , Can I upgrade using the Alternative installation CD?
[07:07] <kenro> Thanks To MK my sticky spacebar is fixed. Of course, that's because I HAVE no spacebar,...
[07:08] <samster34> it's a prebuilt system, Q8300, geforce 9800 GT, nforce 2 chipset
[07:08] <Fyodorovna> Syria, yes.
[07:08] <samster34> the oldest I've tried was ubuntu 10.04
[07:08] <waxstone> have you tried 11.10?
[07:09] <Syria> Fyodorovna: Thank you.
[07:09] <MK`> kenro just put the bars back in pace and snap them into the spacebar in the right place
[07:09] <root________> samster34, Hmm.  it should just work.  try editing the command line and removing quiet splash and see if it hangs up on any particular step to isolate the problem.
[07:09] <samster34> waxstone: actually, no
[07:09] <Rourick> is Xubuntu supported tell april 2013?
[07:09] <Jibgilmon> hey guys, im looking for some help really quickly, i think someone here has a solution :)
[07:09] <waxstone> samster34, thats the latest stable release
[07:10] <samster34> all the versions I've tried were 64 bit
[07:10] <kenro> MK`: And what about the little white sping things?
[07:10] <MK`> Just put it back in place..
[07:11] <Jibgilmon> I'm having issues with wireshark in 11.10, so I'm creating a usergroup. However, when i try to add my account with usermod, it says my user does not exist, anyone know why this might be?
[07:11] <root________> samster34, I'm thinking either one small piece of bad hardware, or an incompatible setting somewhere that windows either doesn't trip (hardware) or isn't incompatible with (setting)
[07:11] <root________> Jibgilmon, don't ask to ask, just ask.
[07:11] <root________> samster34, tried a 32 bit version?
[07:11] <samster34> so far, no
[07:11] <Jibgilmon> asked^^ :P
[07:11] <root________> Jibgilmon, are you using anything other than the standard unix files for your user accounts?
[07:11] <root________> Jibgilmon, also, don't forget to use sudo
[07:11] <ibiwor> Hello! Is there any not-taking package like xournal/zim which also integrates an electronics circuit design tool?
[07:12] <ibiwor> note-taking*
[07:12] <root________> samster34, could be 64 bit is disabled.  Make sure it's enabled and try a 32 bit OS.
[07:12] <Jibgilmon> i am using sudo, and i dont believe so, unless an ubunu studios installation would have done so
[07:12] <glebihan> Jibgilmon, what's the exact command you've been using ?
[07:12] <samster34> win7 x64 was running on it before, but I'll try 11.10 32bit
[07:12] <Jibgilmon> "sudo usermod -a -G wireshark Jibgilmon"
[07:13] <root________> Jibgilmon, try "sudo gpasswd -a Jibgilmon wireshark"
[07:13] <Jibgilmon> the response is "usermod: user 'Jibgilmon' does not exist"
[07:13] <Jibgilmon> oj
[07:13] <Jibgilmon> ok*
[07:13] <root________> Jibgilmon, also, case matters.
[07:13] <glebihan> Jibgilmon, are you sure the case is correct ?
[07:14] <Jibgilmon> yessir, i tried both ways actually
[07:14] <kenro> MK`: They're not snapping in...
[07:14] <MK`> :( I do not know. Look up the model or ask ##hardware
[07:14] <glebihan> Jibgilmon, what's the output of "whoami" ?
[07:14] <Jibgilmon> that did not work either
[07:14] <root________> Jibgilmon, getent passwd and whoami
[07:15] <Jibgilmon> oh wow
[07:15] <Jibgilmon> i feel like an idio
[07:15] <Jibgilmon> idiot*
[07:15] <Jibgilmon> thank you xD
[07:15] <root________> embrace that feeling, then let it go, then tell us what went wrong
[07:15] <Jibgilmon> my account name is jibgilmon, my user name is gelmo
[07:15] <kenro> MK`: You know... Sometimes, I really hate civilized division of labor...
[07:15] <Jibgilmon> top right says jibgilmon, however in terminal i am gelmo@ubuntu
[07:16] <Jibgilmon> :P
[07:16] <Jibgilmon> im fairly new to linux
[07:16] <root________> Jibgilmon, glad it's working now.  :)
[07:16] <Jibgilmon> thank you for that, really appreciate it
[07:16] <Jibgilmon> :D
[07:16] <root________> and welcome to Linux :)
[07:16] <Jibgilmon> thanks!
[07:16] <root________> Jibgilmon, is this a desktop or a server?
[07:16] <Talisman`Work> morning
[07:17] <Jibgilmon> desktop
[07:17] <Jibgilmon> i originally installed to try out ubuntu studios, installed through wubi
[07:17] <Jibgilmon> and
[07:17] <root________> Jibgilmon, don't forget to set up a decent firewall, and be at least a little proactive about checking your syslog and authlog for unexpected things :)
[07:17] <Jibgilmon> i fell inlove with the packages
[07:18] <Jibgilmon> oh why? did i give away too much info?
[07:19] <Jibgilmon> also, where could i find those logs if i may ask?
[07:20] <ServerSage> Jibgilmon: The logs he referred to are in /var/log/
[07:21] <Kartagis> Jibgilmon: /var/logs
[07:21] <Kartagis> sorry, /var/log
[07:21] <Jibgilmon> thank you, looking now
[07:22] <root________> Jibgilmon, no, but we're all susceptible to attacks if we're on the internet.  Linux makes security easy.  You just gotta work with it :)
[07:23] <Jibgilmon> i understand the purpose of checking, but is it that probable for someone to get my password for root commands?
[07:23] <samster34> okay, starting ubuntu 11.10 32bit off the live disk in text mode now...
[07:23] <waxstone> root________, which firewall is good enoguh?
[07:23] <Jibgilmon> i second that question :P
[07:24] <root________> waxstone, they're all the same.  UFW is stock with ubuntu, but I'm fond of shorewall.  They all use iptables though, which is the best(only?) firewall available on linux.
[07:24] <Jibgilmon> great thanks
[07:24] <waxstone> root________, UFW is off by default?
[07:25] <root________> waxstone, I think so.  but all the docs mention it.
[07:25] <Jibgilmon> another question, how can i set a launcher shortcut to ask for root login on start?
[07:25] <waxstone> root________, thanks for the info , i guess i have some reading to do =)
[07:25] <samster34> root________: okay it seems stuck now. last line was "[TTM] Zone kernel: Avilable graphics memory: 431040 kiB."
[07:26] <root________> samster34, 32 or 64 bit this time, and what boot-time options?
[07:26] <samster34> 32
[07:26] <samster34> removed splash, added text
[07:27] <root________> any error or warnings in previous lines?
[07:27] <samster34> nope
[07:27] <samster34> listing the power levels of the gfx card
[07:27] <Jibgilmon> ufw is active and enabled *thumbs up*
[07:27] <root________> odd question, but are you using a cd/dvd or a flash drive?
[07:28] <samster34> fllash drive
[07:28] <waxstone> he is using usb
[07:28] <samster34> I did burn a 12.04 dvd earlier though and I don't even reach the boot enu with that
[07:28] <waxstone> Jibgilmon, did you turn it on or was it on by default?
[07:29] <Jibgilmon> i did sudo ufw enable
[07:29] <Jibgilmon> and it replied with firewall is active and enabled on start
[07:29] <Jibgilmon> im not sure if it meant it already was, or it would be in the future
[07:29] <waxstone> Jibgilmon, sweet thanks
[07:29] <Jibgilmon> regardless im happy, and you should run that command :P
[07:29] <root________> samster34, I'm sorry, but I'm out of ideas here.  Best I can suggest is to keep trying and watch the boot output for something useful.  there might be something in the acpi and apic settings but I don't remember them off the top of my head.
[07:30] <root________> samster34, and if you can't figure it out, try again when there are more people active.  they're generally pretty helpful.  Or the forums.
[07:30] <antonio_> does anyone know how to add an option so when I right click an mp3 I can convert it to an mp3?
[07:30] <samster34> hm.
[07:30] <samster34> I guess this is why I don't buy prebuilts
[07:31] <Corey> antonio_: ...wat?
[07:31] <Jibgilmon> im trying to make a program ask for root access on startup, how is this done? i'm currently at file in usr/bin
[07:31] <root________> samster34, I had the same problem with an old win 95 compaq computer.  never did figure it out.  settled for partial data recovery and junked it.
[07:31] <root________> g'night :)
[07:32] <danielcg25> Hi, I want to setup a proxy server at my home using an old computer that I've installed Ubuntu 11.10 on. How do I do this?
[07:32] <Jibgilmon> daniel
[07:32] <waxstone> Jibgilmon, on by default . i did "service ufw status" and got "ufw start/running"
[07:32] <Jibgilmon> start out with apache
[07:32] <danielcg25> Yes?
[07:33] <Jibgilmon> oh awesome wax
[07:33] <danielcg25> I installed apache2, is that what I need? (sudo apt-get install apache2)
[07:33] <danielcg25> I think that's the HTTP server, but I don't know if it does proxies too.
[07:33] <wooter> danielcg25: if you want a proxy for cache of data so internet loads faster, i believe the term is "squid proxy". so first thing id try is google your os and squid proxy
[07:33] <glebihan> waxstone, that actually doesn't mean the firewall is active
[07:33] <glebihan> waxstone, check with "sudo ufw status"
[07:34] <waxstone> oh!
[07:34] <Jibgilmon> daniel
[07:35] <danielcg25> I don't want it for cache, I want it so I can use websites that are blocked when I'm not home
[07:35] <Jibgilmon> im not sure, i nly have experience setting that up in windows
[07:35] <danielcg25> my brother is on a swimming team, and I get forced to tag along to his meets a lot. Most schools have Internet, but Steam is usually blocked.
[07:35] <root________> danielcg25, you can use either apache or squid, but you might be better off using a VPN.  it's more general purpose.
[07:35] <Jibgilmon> daniel http://www.apachetutor.org/admin/reverseproxies
[07:36] <danielcg25> How do I setup a VPN? Does it cost money?
[07:36] <wooter> vpn is free but trickey to setup
[07:36] <danielcg25> how tricky?
[07:37] <wooter> danielcg25: it depends on the school network setup, a vpn probably isnt even possible....only way possible might be something like a cgi web proxy
[07:37] <Jibgilmon> wooter thats what hes trying
[07:37] <danielcg25> (side note, is there a way to hide all these "someone [ip address] has joined/quit)"?
[07:37] <waxstone> Jibgilmon,Glebihan "status inactive"!!! thanks
[07:37] <samster34> !mint
[07:37] <Jibgilmon> he wants to set one up through apache on his cpomputer with his home network
[07:38] <danielcg25> I tried pinging my computer at home, it works at the school
[07:38] <danielcg25> So I figured a proxy would work
[07:38] <Jibgilmon> daniel i did it as well
[07:38] <Jibgilmon> but on windows
[07:38] <Jibgilmon> let me see if i can find that guide, it might help
[07:39] <glebihan> danielcg25, if you're using xchat, you can right-click the channel name, settings->hide join/part messages
[07:39] <wooter> if you can ping your home ip, good chance vpn would work
[07:40] <danielcg25> glebihan: I'm using Freenode's web chat, but I got it already. Didn't see the menu at first, haha.
[07:41] <Dogears> Hi!
[07:42] <Jibgilmon> is there any way to remove the log in messages on empathy?
[07:42] <Dogears> How can I copy the home directory from the hard drive to a usb drive using a live CD?
[07:42] <pedro> ghello
[07:43] <ServerSage> Jibgilmon: Probably best to ask on the empathy IRC channel.
[07:43] <Jibgilmon> yup :P
[07:43] <auronandace> Dogears: just the contents or the whole partition?
[07:44] <danielcg25> I can get on some websites, (reddit, wikipedia, etc) but Steam, Facebook, and bittorrent are blocked.
[07:44] <danielcg25> (torrents have legit uses, but apparently the school doesn't realize that...)
[07:45] <bluefrog> Jibgilmon, uncheck "log conversations"
[07:45] <Jibgilmon> bluefrog i literally just found that and was about to say that!
[07:45] <sw0rdfish> !kernel
[07:45] <Jibgilmon> haha thank you tho!
[07:47] <Dogears> auronandace: I have a problem with an upgrade and need to copy the home directory to a USB hard drive so I can rebuild the hard drive.
[07:47] <bluefrog> Dogears, basically the same way you would using a "normal" boot
[07:47] <auronandace> Dogears: just the contents or the whole partition?
[07:48] <Dogears> auronandace: just the original /home directory
[07:48] <bluefrog> Dogears, can you still boot using your normal system?
[07:48] <auronandace> Dogears: please answer my question
[07:48] <auronandace> Dogears: is it a seperate partition
[07:49] <Dogears> auronandace: No it is a single partition just the files.
[07:49] <auronandace> Dogears: then just copy them as you would any file
[07:49] <Jibgilmon> danielcg25
[07:49] <Jibgilmon> http://ninoholic.com/instant-apache-proxy-setup.html
[07:49] <Jibgilmon> :)
[07:49] <Dogears> bluefrog: Yes I can boot but only to the terminal
[07:50] <gmclean> for some reason network-manager won't save my wpa password. this is a fresh install of oneric. it just keeps adding "Auto Router" "Auto Router 1" "Auto Router 2" etc. every time i reboot. any ideas on how to troubleshoot?
[07:50] <bluefrog> Dogears, good
[07:51] <gvo> Dogears: boot to the terminal, manually mount the usb drive and copy the files.
[07:51] <danielcg25> Jibgilmon: Did you find the guide?
[07:51] <Jibgilmon> yes daniel
[07:51] <Jibgilmon> http://ninoholic.com/instant-apache-proxy-setup.html
[07:51] <gvo> Dogears: assuming the usb drive doesn't automatically mount.
[07:51] <Dogears> bluefrog: I have tried from the terminal but I can't write to the USB?
[07:51] <gvo> Dogears: what error msg?
[07:52] <bluefrog> Dogears, use sudo before the command
[07:52] <Dogears> bluefrog: yes did that
[07:52] <Jibgilmon> obviously you will have to get an equivalent for the windows programs danielcg25
[07:53] <Talisman`Work> Has anyone had any troubles connecting to the net using an Acer Laptop with a built-in 3G module (Model F3307)?  Specifically on the South African Vodacom network?
[07:53] <Dogears> I will reboot without the live CD and get the message
[07:53] <bluefrog> Dogears, no
[07:53] <bluefrog> wait
[07:53] <Jibgilmon> does anyone know how to add sudo to a shortcut?
[07:53] <alex_under> hello
[07:54] <bluefrog> Dogears, do you have windows and linux on the same computer?
[07:54] <samster34> Jibgilmon: ? add sudo before the command the shortcut executes?
[07:54] <alex_under> can someone tell me how to create multiple files (I have part of the names in a text) ?
[07:54] <Jibgilmon> samster34, i think a better querstion for me to ask, is where the shortcuts are located :P
[07:55] <samster34> I dunno, if you can see it, my guess would be right there :p
[07:55] <gvo> alex_under we need a bit more information
[07:55] <alex_under> I mean I want something like aaa_%string1 from file %.rtf, aaa_%string2 from file%.rtf
[07:55] <Jibgilmon> yesyes, but i meant im not sure where that folder is
[07:55] <Jibgilmon> the folder for the nity launchbar
[07:55] <Jibgilmon> unity*
[07:55] <samster34> no idea
[07:55] <samster34> can't edit shortcuts right there?
[07:55] <Jibgilmon> if i find it i'll let you know
[07:55] <Jibgilmon> and no i cannot
[07:56] <samster34> (haven't really used unity for more than a few seconds)
[07:56] <alex_under> Every string has it's own line
[07:56] <Jibgilmon> ya i dont use it either
[07:56] <Jibgilmon> my rig at school has gnome3
[07:56] <Dogears> bluefrog: No. Ubuntu 10.10 but was upgrading to 11.04.
[07:56] <Jibgilmon> however im at home for break
[07:56] <samster34> and since my computer doesnt let me install any kind of linux, I guess I never will use unity :)
[07:56] <Jibgilmon> and too lazy to configure it, so im stuck with unity
[07:56] <alex_under> gvo: I need to create 4 files for each string
[07:56] <Jibgilmon> oh why not?
[07:57] <samster34> no linux, no unity
[07:57] <Jibgilmon> nono i mean why no linux?
[07:57] <Jibgilmon> and why are you here?
[07:57] <Jibgilmon> LOL
[07:57] <samster34> that's what I've been trying to figure out for hours
[07:57] <bluefrog> Dogears, so right now the computer is running under? live? recovery?
[07:57] <Jibgilmon> so whats the issue you're having?
[07:57] <samster34> well, none of the distros I've tried boot
[07:57] <Jibgilmon> did you setup grub?
[07:58] <gvo> alex_under so you need to read a file and create 4 new files comprised of some fixed characters merged with the contents of each line?
[07:58] <samster34> I can't run them from the live cd
[07:58] <samster34> I dont even get to installing it
[07:58] <Jibgilmon> oh
[07:58] <Jibgilmon> are you on windows?
[07:58] <alex_under> gvo: yes
[07:58] <samster34> on here, yes, on there, no
[07:58] <Jibgilmon> what are you on on there?
[07:58] <samster34> no OS on the other comp
[07:58] <Jibgilmon> oh so you're going form the ios
[07:58] <gvo> I'd suggest you use either a bash script or perl.
[07:59] <Jibgilmon> bios*
[07:59] <alex_under> gvo: a_%string1%.rtf b_%string1%.rtf c_%string1%.rtf d_%string1%.rtf etc.
[07:59] <gvo> How many lines in the file?
[07:59] <Talisman`Work> samster34 does the CD/DVD boot?
[07:59] <Jibgilmon> may i suggest making a boot usb with tuxboot on windows
[07:59] <alex_under> 27 ( 27 strings)
[07:59] <Jibgilmon> and trying to boot from that
[07:59] <samster34> Talisman`Work: no luck with the one dvd I have burned, the USB sticks boot to the menu fine though
[07:59] <almoxarife> samster34: Jibgilmon: be pals and take your conversation to off-topic, thnks
[08:00] <alex_under> gvo: 27 * . That'll be like 104 files
[08:00] <Jibgilmon> okidoki
[08:00] <gvo> It would be faster to do it manually.  Writing a script of any kind would take longer if you're not a programmer.
[08:00] <samster34> almoxarife: but I'd like to stay on-topic :/
[08:00] <Talisman`Work> samster34 then you will need to change your bios settings to boot from the CD/DVD
[08:01] <alex_under> gvo: isn't there like a bash command?
[08:01] <samster34> Talisman`Work: not it, it does boot from the dvd, it just doesnt get to the menu.it freezes and does nothing
[08:01] <Talisman`Work> No one to help on my 3G issue?
[08:01] <gvo> alex_under: Not a single command, no.
[08:01] <alex_under> gvo: I see..
[08:02] <gvo> alex_under: that's a task for a script/program
[08:02] <Dogears> bluefrog: I now have it running from the main HD with the broken Ubuntu from the terminal
[08:03] <alex_under> gvo: thanks anyway
[08:03] <gvo> alex_under: np
[08:03] <gvo> Dogears: Plug the usb drive into the system.
[08:03] <Dogears> bluefrog: When I cp -r /home/user/* /media/  - I get a cannot create ... readonly file system?
[08:04] <gvo> is the usb drive mounted?
[08:04] <Dogears> gvo: Yes Have done that.
[08:04] <danielcg25> Jibgilmon: thanks
[08:04] <Jibgilmon> no problem, good luck
[08:04] <gvo> type "mount" and see what it says
[08:05] <gvo> Dogears: Is the usb drive on sdb1?
[08:05] <Dogears> gvo: No it is not mounted only sda1
[08:06] <gvo> Dogears: So you didn't mount the usb drive
[08:06] <gvo> type "dmesg | tail -22
[08:06] <Dogears> gvo: No
[08:07] <gvo> Dogears: you should see a line that looks like       [1400130.487607]  sdd: sdd1
[08:09] <Dogears> gvo: sdb1 is listed
[08:09] <gvo> ok now try mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[08:10] <gvo> You need to be root to do these commands.
[08:11] <bluefrog> Dogears, have you used sudo in front of the command?
[08:11] <damascene> Hi, I'm the operator on ubuntu-l10n-ara mailing list. I'm unable to reset the password. everything I know is https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/admindb/ubuntu-l10n-ara which leads to now where.
[08:11] <nibbler_> i've got a root server running ubuntu LTS - just figured out that the promised (soft) raid is not real, sdb is completely unused. so i'm in the process of converting this - what would be the method of choice, lvm or md?
[08:13] <bluefrog> nibbler_, lvm on top of md
[08:14] <nibbler_> bluefrog, thats better than a lvm-mirror? okay
[08:14] <bluefrog> nibbler_, lvm-mirror? don't know this
[08:15] <kanupatar> Hi all, I am using ubuntu 11.10 , how can i configure proxy in it for commandline
[08:15] <kanupatar> ?
[08:15] <Dogears> gvo: Yes used sudo mount /dev/sdb1/ mnt and the message was fuse: mount failed : Device or resource busy
[08:16] <seekwill> kandinski: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Squid ?
[08:16] <mandira> hiiiiiiii
[08:16] <gvo> fuse?
[08:17] <gvo> type mount and post the output line for /dev/sda1
[08:17] <bluefrog> nibbler_, lvm-mirror looks like a raid1 like setup.
[08:17] <curiousx> salut a tout le monde
[08:18] <kanupatar> Hi all, I am using ubuntu 11.10 , how can i configure proxy in it for commandline
[08:19] <Talisman`Work> kanupatar In Gentoo, you would use      export http_proxy="http://<username>:<password>@<server>:<port>"
[08:19] <Talisman`Work> I don't know if that would work for ubuntu
[08:19] <Talisman`Work> try it
[08:20] <gvo> Talisman`Work: Bask, ksh, sh and dash, yes.  csh, no.
[08:20] <Dogears> gvo: /dev/sda1 on / type ext4(rw,errors=remount-ro, commit=0)
[08:20] <nibbler_> bluefrog, thats why i'm not sure which path to go - lvm mirror normally wants 3 physical volumes, but i'd assume it gives same security as mdadm with 2
[08:20] <Talisman`Work> gvo ty
[08:21] <gvo> Dogears: Did you see a /dev/sdb1 listed?
[08:21] <kanupatar> Talisman`Work: I have already given like  export ftp_proxy=http://renjithg:xxxx@@10.47.1.101:3128/
[08:21] <Talisman`Work> you need the ""
[08:21] <Dogears> gvo: No
[08:21] <kanupatar> Talisman`Work: sorry http_proxy
[08:21] <Talisman`Work> you still need the ""
[08:22] <gvo> Dogears: how many lines did you see?
[08:22] <gvo> Dogears: did you do sudo mount /dev/sdb1/ mnt ?  If so that's wrong.
[08:22] <gvo> Dogears: you need to mount on /mnt not mnt
[08:23] <kanupatar> Talisman`Work:you mean export http_proxy="http://renjithg:xxxx@@10.47.1.101:3128/"
[08:24] <gvo> Talisman`Work: kanupatar You might want to have only one @ sign
[08:24] <kanupatar> gvo: unfortunately my password ends with @ :(
[08:25] <bluefrog> nibbler_, what's the server for? high availability? lots of people on it?
[08:25] <gvo> kanupatar: Hm, that may give you problems.  It might have to be escaped.
[08:25] <Dogears> gvo: I used the /mnt and got the fuse: error. There were 8 extra lines under the sdb1 line but nothjing about sdb1
[08:25] <kanupatar> gvo: ohh really ?
[08:25] <gvo> kanupatar: Not positive but probably
[08:26] <nibbler_> bluefrog, my mail system, and some webservices, all private use
[08:26] <gvo> Dogears: I have no idea what's gong on.
[08:26] <gvo> going
[08:26] <Dogears> gvo: Thanks
[08:26] <bluefrog> nibbler_, whatever then. the one you like
[08:26] <nibbler_> heh okays ;-)
[08:26] <gvo> Dogears: so boot your live cd and we'll go from there.
[08:27] <kanupatar> Talisman`Work: gvo renjithg@renjithg:~$ sudo apt-get update [sudo] password for renjithg:  Err http://security.ubuntu.com oneiric-security InRelease
[08:27] <bluefrog> nibbler_, http://deranfangvomende.wordpress.com/2011/04/04/linux-lvm-mirroring-comes-at-a-price/
[08:27] <gvo> Dogears: What live cd are you using?
[08:27] <bluefrog> nibbler_, http://adminsgoodies.com/lvm-mirroring-vs-raid1/
[08:27] <Dogears> gvo: 11.10
[08:27] <gvo> Dogears: OK that'll work.
[08:27] <bocah_linuxers> Hello
[08:28] <Talisman`Work> gvo you had any experience with 3G built-in modules on laptops?
[08:28] <gvo> Talisman`Work: Didn't even know they existed.
[08:29] <gvo> Talisman`Work: What's the problem?
[08:29] <Dogears> gvo: I need to go home. I will take the hard drive home and jump back on from there.
[08:29] <gvo> Dogears: OK
[08:29] <Dogears> gvo: Thanks for your help
[08:29] <Talisman`Work> gvo I'm simply trying to connect to the 'net using my 3G module.
[08:29] <gvo> Dogears: np
[08:29] <Talisman`Work> it starts a connections and then tells me "you're not connected"
[08:29] <gvo> Talisman`Work: does Linux even see the module?
[08:30] <kanupatar> In my ubuntu 11.10 , I cannot see the wireless options in the netwotk side
[08:30] <Talisman`Work> gvo yes, and I've got the connection set up etc.
[08:30] <papi> df
[08:30] <papi> fdhdfjnfd
[08:30] <papi> ola amor
[08:30] <papi> follamos
[08:30] <FloodBot1> papi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:31] <papi> un poco o ke
[08:31] <papi> a lo bn amorcito rico
[08:31] <kanupatar> In my ubuntu 11.10 , I cannot see the wireless options in the netwotk side
[08:31] <gvo> Talisman`Work: so what happens?
[08:32] <gvo> Talisman`Work: does ifconfig show the connection?
[08:33] <Talisman`Work> Well, I click the Network "Triangle" on the top menu, find my connection and click it.  The triangle changes to that wireless network icon and then after a few seconds it pops up a small dialogue telling me I'm not connected.
[08:33] <gvo> kanupatar: Not surprisingly.  wireless is something ubuntu doesn't do well.
[08:33] <Talisman`Work> gvo no, because it doesn't connect.
[08:33] <gvo> Talisman`Work: but your connection shows up in network manager?
[08:34] <gvo> Talisman`Work: Try ifconfig -a and see if you don't see something.
[08:35] <gvo> Talisman`Work: Does the 3g connection require a user/password to work?
[08:35] <Talisman`Work> gvo not in my case - only an APN
[08:35] <gvo> Talisman`Work: what is an APN?
[08:35] <Talisman`Work> gvo I've got 4 network devices with ifconfig - eth0, lo, wlan0 and wwan0
[08:35] <Talisman`Work> gvo Access Point Name
[08:36] <Talisman`Work> I'm assuming that wwan0 is my 3G
[08:36] <gvo> Talisman`Work: OK wwan0 is probably it.  Where did you configure the APN?
[08:36] <danielg25> If I put my "server" (really just a computer with ubuntu that I'm using as a server) in the DMZ on my router, can I use Desktop Sharing just by entering my home's external IP address in a remote desktop client? (when I'm not at home)
[08:37] <Talisman`Work> in the 'Network Connections' dialogue
[08:37] <Talisman`Work> vgo ^
[08:37] <Talisman`Work> hehe.. gvo ^
[08:38] <danielg25> Basically, what do I need to do to use Desktop Sharing over the Internet? It works within my home network right now.
[08:38] <Talisman`Work> gvo it's listed under Mobile Broadband
[08:38] <gvo> Talisman`Work: Hm, I assume you've researched the web?  You might try finding your device with lspci and search for the device id on the net.
[08:38] <kanupatar> In my ubuntu 11.10 , I cannot see the wireless options in the netwotk side
[08:39] <gvo> Talisman`Work: Other than that I can't give much help.
[08:39] <Talisman`Work> gvo aye, I have - the device is an Ericsson but I've found no documentation on my broadband provider relating to that device.
[08:39] <gvo> kanupatar: does ifconfig -a show the wlan0 device?
[08:39] <kanupatar> gvo: yep
[08:40] <Talisman`Work> gvo thanks for the attempt :-)
[08:40] <gvo> Talisman`Work: np
[08:40] <ledzep> hello i am using ubuntu 12.04..I am new to ubnuntu as well as linux . CAN anybody help me???
[08:40] <kanupatar> gvo: sorry NO
[08:40] <kanupatar> gvo: but iwconfig will show the wlan0
[08:40] <gvo> kanupatar: ifconfig -a should show all devices.
[08:41] <danielg25> ledzep: I don't KNOW, but I am WONDERING why you like to capitalize random WORDS.
[08:41] <Talisman`Work> gvo just for completeness, the actual Ubuntu message was "Disconnected - you are now offline"
[08:41] <gvo> kanupatar: at least it does at 10.04
[08:41] <gvo> Talisman`Work: That's helpful.  :)
[08:42] <Talisman`Work> gvo rofl, ikr :-D
[08:42] <ledzep> danielg25 i did it
[08:42] <gvo> kanupatar: and iwconfig doesn't show an IP address I assume.
[08:42] <danielg25> ledzep: you did what?
[08:43] <ledzep> danielg25 : nothg
[08:43] <KainWu> so many guys here..lol
[08:43] <Talisman`Work> gvo tail syslog tells me "GSM connection failed: (32) Busy"
[08:44] <danielg25> What do I need to do to use Desktop Sharing over the Internet? It works within my home network right now.
[08:45] <kanupatar> gvo: yes
[08:45] <danielg25> I want to connect to my desktop when I'm not home over the internet
[08:45] <kanupatar> gvo: no ip addres details on iwconfig
[08:46] <kanupatar> gvo: is there any third party wireless tools for ubuntu 11.10 for dell lattitude D430 ?
[08:46] <gvo> Talisman`Work: this may or may not help https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/modemmanager/+question/111615
[08:46] <gvo> kanupatar: wicd is usually better than network manager for wireless connections.
[08:46] <Talisman`Work> gvo looking
[08:47] <kanupatar> gvo: is there any download link ?
[08:47] <gvo> Talisman`Work: not an answer per se but might give you a hint.
[08:47] <gvo> kanupatar: apt-get install wicd
[08:48] <kanupatar> gvo: unfortunately i cannot install via commandline due to proxy issues :(#
[08:49] <Talisman`Work> gvo tyvm
[08:49] <gvo> kanupatar: http://wicd.sourceforge.net/
[08:50] <gvo> Talisman`Work: np
[08:50] <kanupatar> gvo: thanks ..but no downoad link
[08:50] <gvo> kanupatar: Huh?
[08:51] <gvo> kanupatar: click on the download tab.
[08:51] <bluefrog> danielg25, you need to do some NAT in your adsl box
[08:51] <kanupatar> gvo: ok ok
[08:51] <szal> kanupatar: what's a proxy got to do w/ cmdline or not cmdline?
[08:53] <kanupatar> szal: I have a proxy server at 10.47.1.101 ...I have full access via browser...but commandline failes to get the same
[08:54] <gvo> kanupatar: I take it the export didn't work?
[08:55] <kanupatar> gvo: NO
[08:55] <kanupatar> Talisman`Work:you mean export http_proxy="http://renjithg:xxxx@@10.47.1.101:3128/"
[08:55] <gvo> kanupatar: try escaping the first @ sign
[08:55] <danielg25> bluefrog: I don't have ADSL, I have a DSL modem and a Belkin router.
[08:56] <kanupatar> gvo: that is my password's last letter :(
[08:56] <gvo> kanupatar: I know, try escaping it.
[08:56] <gvo> kanupatar: put a backslash in front of it.
[08:56] <bluefrog> danielg25, you need to forward port from dsl modem (or router, or both) to your puter
[08:57] <kanupatar> Talisman`Work:you mean export http_proxy="http://renjithg:xxxx@\@10.47.1.101:3128/"
[08:57] <bluefrog> danielg25, and you'd better learn about ssh tunneling and use vnc IN ssh. then you only need to forward port 22
[08:57] <danielg25> the modem doesn't have a firewall or even a config page so it shouldn't be a problem. What ports need to be forwarded?
[08:57] <gvo> danielg25: Is your dsl modem set to passthru mode?
[08:57] <Talisman`Work> kanupatar yes
[08:58] <danielg25> I have no idea, but it sounds like it
[08:58] <Talisman`Work> kanupatar you must also use ftp_proxy="http://renjithg:xxxx@\@10.47.1.101:3128/"
[08:58] <gvo> kanupatar: no you escaped the wrong one.
[08:58] <kanupatar> gvo: ????
[08:58] <samster34> heya, I was finally able to install ubuntu by installing windows then installing through wubi, then starting the installed ubuntu to finish the install in "acpi workaround" mode...this is the only time I've been abel to get to the ubuntu desktop, so I guess once it's done installing, I should mess around with acpi boot options?
[08:58] <gvo> kanupatar: the first @ sign.  not the second one.
[08:59] <gvo> Talisman`Work: For apt-get, you only need http_proxy
[08:59] <kanupatar> gvo: you mean export http_proxy="http://renjithg:xxxx\@@10.47.1.101:3128/"
[09:00] <gvo> kanupatar: Yes.
[09:00] <yellabs-r2> how can i use evince to show an pdf slideshow ?
[09:00] <crashanddie> Hi, trying to upgrade from Natty to Oneiric. I'm getting "E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages." However, apt-get autoremove, doesn't change anything, nor does apt-get -f. This is the apt log from the upgrade tool: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=e0krQALw
[09:00] <kanupatar> gvo: no ude
[09:01] <kanupatar> gvo: no use
[09:01] <kanupatar> gvo: same as before
[09:01] <gvo> kanupatar: Try using single quotes rather than double.
[09:01] <gvo> the shell might be in the way.
[09:02] <crashanddie> @ is not a special character in shells
[09:02] <kanupatar> gvo: no use either
[09:02] <bluefrog> danielg25, then you may have to tweak your belkin router. right now it seems that desktop sharing is not accessible from the internet to your puter
[09:02] <gvo> crashanddie: I know it's not but bash might strip the backslash out.
[09:03] <gvo> kanupatar: I suggest you change your password and see if that helps.
[09:04] <danielg25> bluefrog: What ports does Desktop Sharing use?
[09:04] <kanupatar> gvo: ok..i will ask the IT support guy to reset my password..also i have one question, Where can I see the 'System' Tab in my ubundt 11.10 ?
[09:05] <kanupatar> I have installed the gnome-panel
[09:05] <bluefrog> danielg25, vnc I think so 5900 and/or 5800
[09:05] <gvo> kanupatar: I've never seen 11.10.
[09:05] <gvo> kanupatar: Can't help with that.
[09:05] <crashanddie> kanupatar, are you trying to access the web interface of your router?
[09:05] <bluefrog> danielg25, but not a good idea to do so
[09:05] <bluefrog> danielg25, use ssh tunneling
[09:05] <danielg25> why?
[09:05] <kanupatar> crashanddie: no
[09:06] <danielg25> I have a password on the Desktop Sharing, is it still not a good idea?
[09:06] <bluefrog> danielg25, passwords can be read very easily
[09:06] <gvo> danielg25: vnc isn't very secure.
[09:06] <danielg25> Oh :(
[09:06] <kanupatar> gvo: please advice me..i am fully down with this ubuntu 11.10 machine
[09:06] <danielg25> Well how do I do the SSH thing?
[09:06] <danielg25> SSH tunneling
[09:06] <gvo> kanupatar: I can't help you with 11.10, sorry.
[09:06] <bluefrog> danielg25, http://members.shaw.ca/nicholas.fong/vnc/
[09:07] <gvo> danielg25: and don't put your system in the DMZ, leave it behind the firewall.
[09:07] <kanupatar> gvo: any one else/
[09:07] <kanupatar> ?
[09:07] <danielg25> ok
[09:07] <bluefrog> danielg25, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC
[09:07] <pkt> what is an "IMS Hit" exactly? (in apt logs)
[09:08] <scriptwarlock> hello any ideas if shutdown and reboot inside /sbin has the same function?
[09:08] <scriptwarlock> sorry wrong question
[09:08] <scriptwarlock> hello any ideas if shutdown and poweroff inside /sbin has the same function?
[09:08] <danielg25> bluefrog: I will be using a Mac to connect to the desktop at my house, will that matter?
[09:08] <bluefrog> danielg25, no
[09:09] <danielg25> Ok, thanks
[09:09] <danielg25> I'll check back if I have any questions
[09:09] <pkt> scriptwarlock: I think "shutdown" is more "gentle" than poweroff
[09:09] <pkt> poweroff is a symlink to "reboot" btw
[09:10] <scriptwarlock> pkt, i cant find shutdown anymore only poweroff
[09:10] <gvo> shutdown has always been the preferred way.
[09:11] <userfriendly> is there a program / command that lets me have a message pop up on the local screen of a machine to which i connect via ssh?
[09:11] <gvo> shutdown is in /sbin
[09:11] <Jibgilmon> goodnight everyone, thanks for the help!
[09:11] <drounse> 4
[09:11] <drounse> hi
[09:11] <scriptwarlock> gvo, not here
[09:12] <gvo> userfriendly: if you connect via ssh -X or ssh -Y then you can run an x windows program that displays back on your monitory.
[09:12] <pkt> scriptwarlock: which version?
[09:12] <gvo> scriptwarlock: what OS?
[09:12] <gvo> scriptwarlock: that too.
[09:12] <scriptwarlock> 12.04
[09:12]  * bluefrog test
[09:12] <pkt> Here in 12.04 there is /sbin/shutdown
[09:12] <bluefrog> pouet
[09:13] <scriptwarlock> wait lemme check
[09:13] <pkt> scriptwarlock: it is provided by "upstart" package fwiw
[09:13] <pkt> so if you deleted it for some reason, try reinstalling upstart
[09:13] <userfriendly> gvo: we're speaking about the same monitor, yes?
[09:13] <userfriendly> i mean the remote one
[09:14] <scriptwarlock> pkt, yeah saw it darn no sleep
[09:14] <Talisman`Work> gvo oh foo... it seems to be that my built-in 3G module is not supported
[09:14] <scriptwarlock> thanks guis
[09:14] <Talisman`Work> but my external 3G usb module is... I'm connected now.
[09:14] <gvo> Talisman`Work: Not surprising.
[09:14] <Talisman`Work> yeh.
[09:15]  * Talisman`Work will have to look for Ericsson drivers I suppose, gvo 
[09:15] <gvo> userfriendly: the remote one is going to be difficult.
[09:15] <gvo> Talisman`Work: call Ericsson :)
[09:15] <userfriendly> gvo: it's like this - i'm on a windows box here(sadly), connecting to a remote linux box with ssh -Y, running x apps works fine etc. - on that remote linux box now there is a different user logged on, using the local display, and to that person i want to send a message on their screen.
[09:16] <drounse> what is a mysql server
[09:16] <userfriendly> there used to be a similar little thing on the windows platform, can't remember its name...
[09:16] <userfriendly> was just wondering if the *nix world had something similar
[09:17] <gvo> userfriendly: maybe xtalk?
[09:17] <Boreeas> userfriendly: It's net send / msg on windows, I think
[09:17] <gvo> Talk works for terminal users.
[09:18] <userfriendly> thanks guys :) i'll take a look at that
[09:19] <crashanddie> Hi, trying to upgrade from Natty to Oneiric. I'm getting "E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages." However, apt-get autoremove, doesn't change anything, nor does apt-get -f. This is the apt log from the upgrade tool: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=e0krQALw
[09:19] <gvo> drounse: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MySQL
[09:20] <drounse> gvo ive read that, i just dont quite understand, i undersatnd a file server- it serves files, mail servers- for email, i just dont get what mysql is
[09:21] <gvo> mysql is a database server.
[09:21] <AdvoWork> drounse, MySQL is a RDBMS, read database management system running as a "server"
[09:22] <gvo> drounse: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Database_server
[09:22] <drounse> AdvoWork ok thank you
[09:24] <dime01> hi
[09:24] <dalek_> Help! Why won't certain commercial DVDs play when others do? I am getting "could not read from resource"... ?
[09:24] <scriptwarlock> hello again wew it seems chmod 7755 /sbin/shutdown cant completely power down ubuntu
[09:25] <scriptwarlock> hello again wew it seems chmod 7755 /sbin/shutdown(remote shutdown) cant completely power down ubuntu
[09:25] <Nintendo> @find Ubuntu for Android
[09:26] <Nintendo> #find ubuntu for android
[09:26] <popey> Nintendo: #ubuntu-phone
[09:26] <geirha> scriptwarlock: Change the mode to 755 and run it as root
[09:26] <dime01> I need to mount a network drive, which is under samba, could someone give me an example of the line I have to put in fstab ? I don't know where I have to set the password
[09:26] <dime01> I write this line for the moment : //10.0.1.4/Files	/media/Files	smbfs	netdev,gid=100,uid=1000,umask=002,username=myName,iocharset=utf8   0     0
[09:27] <scriptwarlock> geirha, ok let me trry
[09:27] <dime01> How can I add the password in this line ?
[09:27] <geirha> dime01: Don't use smbfs, use cifs
[09:27] <Braap> scriptwarlock: poweroff   might not need root
[09:27] <geirha> dime01: and  man mount.cifs  explains the options you can use
[09:28] <dime01> geirha Why ? smbfs isn't for samba ?
[09:28] <scriptwarlock> Braap, i was testing the remote shutdown and reboot with this app we made
[09:28] <geirha> dime01: cifs is the "new" smbfs
[09:28] <Nintendo> @FloodBot1
[09:28] <crashanddie> Hi, trying to upgrade from Natty to Oneiric. I'm getting "E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages." However, apt-get autoremove, doesn't change anything, nor does apt-get -f. This is the apt log from the upgrade tool: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=e0krQALw
[09:29] <dime01> geirha Ok but it seems that I don't have cifs in my system
[09:29] <antonio_> for some reason the sound in my system is SUPER quiet
[09:29] <dime01> geirha : no manual when I type in man mount.cifs
[09:29] <SunTsu> crashanddie: do you use do-release-upgrade for upgrading?
[09:29] <antonio_> I can barely hear anything
[09:29] <dime01> geirha : whereas man mount is working
[09:30] <drounse> after the commandline whats the next layer? is it the wm or the de?
[09:30] <crashanddie> SunTsu, I've tried both, the regular update manager and do-release-upgrade
[09:30] <geirha> dime01: Have you install the package named smbfs?
[09:30] <SunTsu> antonio_: tried pavucontrol to correct the sound level?
[09:30] <SunTsu> crashanddie: do-release-upgrade is the way to go
[09:30] <scriptwarlock> geirha, this what it says "halt need to be root
[09:30] <dime01> geirha : no, Im installing it
[09:31] <crashanddie> SunTsu, sorry, maybe I wasn't clear, it doesn't change a damned thing.
[09:31] <gvo> dime01: http://www.manpagez.com/man/8/mount.cifs/
[09:31] <dime01> geirha : right, mount.cifs is working now
[09:31] <SunTsu> crashanddie: watch your language, please
[09:31] <crashanddie> die in a fire.
[09:32] <dime01> gva : Thks for the doc, but using this method does it works when computer restart ?
[09:32] <antonio_> suntsu: never before now...what do I do with this program
[09:32] <antonio_> ?
[09:32] <ryannathans> is infiniband natively supported?
[09:33] <SunTsu> antonio_: well, run it, you'll see
[09:33] <scriptwarlock> anymore ideas on why remote shutdown in ubuntu wont completely power down using chmod 7755 or 775 sbin/shutdown
[09:33] <gvo> dime01: If you put it in fstab, sure.
[09:33] <ryannathans> scriptwarlock: run as asudo
[09:33] <gvo> scriptwarlock: I'm not aware of the chmod command causing any change to the state of the systme.
[09:34] <dime01> gva ok
[09:34] <gvo> as ryannathans says, you gotta be root to run the shutdown command.
[09:34] <scriptwarlock> gvo, this is a remote app im using and since 8.04 its working this way
[09:35] <gvo> OK so you're setting suid?
[09:35] <scriptwarlock> gvo, was buffled currently why it wont work anymore on ubuntu 11.10/12.04
[09:35] <Jordan_U> scriptwarlock: You should pretty much never make any file which isn't already setuid, setuid. It's a huge security risk.
[09:36] <dalek_> I can't get DVDs to play anymore. What happened? I just get "could not read from resource" now. What am I missing?
[09:36] <gvo> I"m guessing suid might have been disabled in later distros.
[09:36] <Rourick> hi all, new here just came from win7 was curious is there software like ccleaner for linux? or do i not need anything...thanks
[09:36] <gvo> Rourick: what's ccleaner?
[09:36] <scriptwarlock> Jordan_U, setuid any links how i do it
[09:36] <Rourick> it cleans files, temp, it's a system cleaner
[09:37] <gvo> scriptwarlock: I agree with Jordan_U
[09:37] <gvo> Rourick: Not really necessary in Linux land
[09:37] <sacarlson> scriptwarlock: did you try sudo shutdown now;
[09:37] <Rourick> gvo ok thanks
[09:37] <dalek_> I used to be able to play DVD discs from ANY regionin Ubuntu, now it seems it won't play nearly all my DVDs
[09:38] <antonio_> the one thing I despise about ubuntu is how bad the sound system is
[09:38] <drounse> does anyone know how to adjust the resolution?
[09:39] <dime01> gva, ok this command is working : sudo mount.cifs //10.0.1.4/Files /media/Files/ -o username=myUsername
[09:39] <dime01> after Im typing my password
[09:39] <dime01> Now how can I set it in fstab ?
[09:39] <dime01> I mean the line I have to add in fstab ?
[09:39] <dalek_> how do I find out if my DVD drive has been set to a region?
[09:40] <antonio_> how the hell do you get sound to work in ubuntu
[09:40] <antonio_> you plug in a usb headset and it messes everything up!
[09:40] <gvo> dim//ntserver/docs /mnt/samba      cifs   username=docsadm,password=D1Y4x9sw
[09:41] <gvo> dime01: //ntserver/docs /mnt/samba cifs username=docsadm,password=D1Y4x9sw
[09:41] <gvo> For example
[09:41] <dime01> gvo ok thks I try it
[09:41] <drounse> i need the refresh rate on my monitor to be 60Hz but xubuntu only says 51.0Hz
[09:41] <gvo> Well add a 0  0 to the end.
[09:41] <dime01> with netdev ?
[09:41] <dalek_> how do I set my DVD drive to region 0? regionset only appears to allow 1-8 as choices
[09:41] <gvo> dime01: ?
[09:42] <dime01> gva : Do I need to add the netdev option ?
[09:42] <ryannathans> is infiniband natively supported?
[09:42] <dime01> gva : Ive seen that on the net
[09:42] <scriptwarlock_> sacarlson, sudo shutdown still not power down
[09:43] <gvo> dime01: I don't know.
[09:43] <sacarlson> scriptwarlock_: does the system halt when that is run?
[09:43] <gvo> Just try it.
[09:43] <scriptwarlock_> sacarlson, nope
[09:43] <ryannathans> scriptwarlock_: what doesn't shutdown?
[09:43] <ryannathans> scriptwarlock_: does sudo reboot work?
[09:43] <ryannathans> scriptwarlock_: what flags are you passing shutdown?
[09:43] <scriptwarlock_> sacarlson, but pressing shutdown button works
[09:44] <antonio_> this is driving me nuts!
[09:44] <gvo> dime01: umount the device if it's mounted, add to fstab and try a mount /mnt/samba or wherever you pointed the entry in fstab.
[09:44] <antonio_> I unplugged my usb headset and it froze my computer!
[09:44] <antonio_> how can I diagnose my sound problems?
[09:44] <ryannathans> antonio_: install latest drivers for your audio card/chip and header
[09:44] <sacarlson> scriptwarlock_: are you running sudo shutdown now;  in a term?
[09:44] <ryannathans> headset
[09:44] <scriptwarlock_> sacarlson, yes
[09:45] <ryannathans> scriptwarlock_: logs?
[09:45] <gvo> scriptwarlock_: shutdown -h now??
[09:45] <scriptwarlock_> sacarlson, it goes blackscreen and nothing happens
[09:45] <scriptwarlock_> gvo, same
[09:45] <antonio_> ryannathans: would I need to bother with drivers for my card if I'm using a usb headset?
[09:45] <dime01> gva Ok thks
[09:45] <scriptwarlock_> sacarlson, let me check the logs
[09:45] <gvo> scriptwarlock_: as root?
[09:45] <antonio_> besides...10 minutes ago everything was fine
[09:45] <scriptwarlock_> gvo, yes
[09:45] <ryannathans> antonio_: so what did you change?
[09:45] <gvo> scriptwarlock_: strange.
[09:46] <antonio_> nothing
[09:46] <sacarlson> scriptwarlock_: with no results at all ?  you did have to enter your sudo password also if asked
[09:46] <ryannathans> antonio_: well then you've always had the problem
[09:46] <ryannathans> if it keeps happening look for drives
[09:46] <ryannathans> antonio_: if all else fails, get logs and submit bug report
[09:46] <antonio_> ryannathans: I didn't change anything...I was editing some audio and then boom
[09:46] <scriptwarlock_> sacarlson, yes, but recently i chmod 7755 the shutdown
[09:47] <sacarlson> scriptwarlock_: oh so you didn't use sudo then?
[09:47] <dalek_> I've never had to use regionset before. I've always been able to play all my DVDs from any region. What's gone wrong? http://paste.ubuntu.com/881618/
[09:47] <scriptwarlock_> sacarlson, i use sudo
[09:48] <Jordan_U> scriptwarlock_: sudo chmod 0755 /sbin/shutdown
[09:48] <dalek_> help - http://paste.ubuntu.com/881618/ why am I getting "could not read from resource" all the time now?
[09:48] <scriptwarlock_> Jordan_U, k will try
[09:48] <sgo11> Hi, how to check an installed package's dependencies? eg: which packages depends on this package? which packages does this package depend on? thanks.
[09:48] <Jordan_U> scriptwarlock_: Like I said earlier, whatever else happens, you should not make files setuid root.
[09:48] <scriptwarlock_> Jordan_U, let me first find the logs it can help
[09:49] <sacarlson> scriptwarlock_: you might try sudo poweroff
[09:49] <llutz> sgo11: apt-cache depends/rdepends packagename
[09:49] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[09:50] <sgo11> llutz, got it. thanks a lot for the help.
[09:52] <scriptwarlock_> be right back
[09:53] <dalek_> I used to be able to play DVD discs from ANY regionin Ubuntu, now it seems it won't play nearly all my DVDs
[09:53] <dalek_> help - http://paste.ubuntu.com/881618/ why am I getting "could not read from resource" all the time now?
[09:53] <Talisman`Work> ciao
[09:53] <antonio_> argh
[09:56] <antonio_> seriously
[09:56] <dalek_> I used to be able to play DVD discs from ANY regionin Ubuntu, now it seems it won't play nearly all my DVDs
[09:56] <dalek_> help - http://paste.ubuntu.com/881618/ why am I getting "could not read from resource" all the time now?
[09:57] <Jordan_U> dalek_: Region should not matter in Ubuntu, and you should be careful since with many drives there are a limited number of times that you can change the region. Could you pastebin the output of "dmesg"?
[09:57] <ikonia> 3 is the normal for region changes
[09:58] <mulberry> I am trying to launch a program in a full sized window from the main menu but I am having trouble can anybody please help?
[09:59] <mulberry> ^^^ a full sized terminal window
[09:59] <darkcry> hallo
[09:59] <borik> hello
[09:59] <borik> hallo
[10:00] <dalek_> Jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/881626/
[10:00] <antonio_> god
[10:00] <sacarlson> dalek_: In most computer drives, users are allowed to change the region code up to five times.[11]  If the number of allowances reaches zero, the region last used will be  permanent even if the drive is transferred to another computer.
[10:00] <antonio_> I HATE sound on linux
[10:01] <Anomie21> Can Ubuntu not write to a Mac OSX? (Trying to copy files onto one of apples time capsules and it's producing an error)
[10:01] <dalek_> What does "[ 1396.622576] sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Add. Sense: Media region code is mismatched to logical unit region" mean?
[10:01] <SunTsu> antonio_: congrats on your detailed and constructive criticism
[10:02] <antonio_> suntsu: there is no explanation for sound working one minute...then being super quiet the next
[10:02] <antonio_> I didn't change anything
[10:03] <SunTsu> antonio_: well, lots of sources can change your volume
[10:04] <antonio_> this is so damn frustrating
[10:04] <dalek_> Jordan_U, I recently had to replace the DVD drive on this laptop... I don't think I'd played DVDs on it since the new drive was installed. It is a brand new drive. Could this be why I can't play DVDs anymore?
[10:04] <antonio_> ugh
[10:06] <scriptwarlock> Jordan_U, confirmed terminal shutdown not working but cog>shutdown working
[10:06] <mulberry> ok so far in the launcher I have: "gnome-terminal --geometry=132x43+0+0 && gtypist" but all I get is a large empty terminal.
[10:08] <Jordan_U> mulberry: That command says to launch gnome-terminal with a specific geometry, but without any specific command. Then run gtypist, without any controling terminal for gtypist at all.
[10:08] <SunTsu> antonio_: this channel is about solving problems and support, not about letting out your frustration. If you want to find out what's going on somebody may be willing to help, but cursing won't get you anywhere
[10:08] <Jordan_U> mulberry: gnome-terminal --geometry=132x43+0+0 --command=gtypist
[10:09] <mulberry> yesssss it works!!!! thank you very much Jordan_U
[10:09] <scriptwarlock> sacarlson, still no luck
[10:10] <Jordan_U> mulberry: You're welcome.
[10:10] <fdssdfs> buenos dias
[10:10] <Jordan_U> scriptwarlock: What is the output of "sudo shutdown -h now"?
[10:10] <Anomie21> Can Ubuntu not write to a Mac OSX? (Trying to copy files onto one of apples time capsules and it's producing an error)
[10:10] <fdssdfs> como estas
[10:11] <fdssdfs> sup
[10:11] <Jordan_U> Anomie21: Linux cannot write to journaled hfsplus, no.
[10:11] <sacarlson> dalek_: you can set your dvd regon code with sudo regionset see lower in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[10:12] <scriptwarlock> Jordan_U, the usual thing system down for maintenance or something like that which is normal but after a blackout it did nothing
[10:12] <antonio_> suntsu: sorry...was just frustrated
[10:12] <antonio_> found out something was turning alsa down
[10:12] <Jordan_U> scriptwarlock: Please pastebin the exact output.
[10:12] <antonio_> Now I'm trying to get jack to work
[10:12] <Anomie21> :(
[10:12] <Guest73702> helloo
[10:12] <Guest73702> mens
[10:12] <sacarlson> scriptwarlock: how about sudo halt ; ?
[10:13] <sacarlson> scriptwarlock: you sure the user is a sudo user?
[10:13] <scriptwarlock> Jordan_U, k or should i transfer to another room because im using 12.04 :)
[10:13] <Anomie21> Why don't Linux/MacOSX/Win all stick to one format that is R/W compatible for each machine :/
[10:13] <scriptwarlock> sacarlson, yes
[10:13] <dalek_> sacarlson, regionset doesn't work - see http://paste.ubuntu.com/881618/
[10:13] <Jordan_U> scriptwarlock: You should have been in #ubuntu+1 from the start, yes.
[10:13] <sacarlson> dalek_: you need to install it as shown in the link
[10:14] <Anomie21> What's the easiest way to move 30GB from a Ubuntu PC to a MacBook?
[10:14] <borik> hallo
[10:14] <scriptwarlock> sacarlson, k going but this was also the case of remote shutdown to one of my 11.10 machine
[10:14] <fdssdfs> i guess
[10:14] <sacarlson> dalek_: also you need to have one of the disks of interest in the drive when you run it
[10:14] <scriptwarlock> sacarlson, same problem with my 11.10
[10:15] <scriptwarlock> sacarlson, what log type am i going to hunt for shutdown problems in log
[10:15] <Jordan_U> Anomie21: Either using samba file sharing over the network or using an external drive formatted fat32 (readable and writeable in linux) or ntfs (easily readable and writable in linux, easily readable in OSX, and writeable in OSX as well with a little effort).
[10:15] <borik> I have a question, Is somebody of you using silc on ubuntu 11.10
[10:16] <sacarlson> scriptwarlock: I would think /var/log/system
[10:16] <borik> ??
[10:16] <vyrgozunqk> hey guys anyone seen any MATE repo for 12.04 precise ?
[10:17] <dalek_> sacarlson, regionset is installed, and the DVD was in the drive - still did not work.
[10:17] <scriptwarlock> sacarlson, going to ubuntu+1
[10:17] <fdssdfs> unity is nice,why use mate
[10:17] <sacarlson> scriptwarlock: you have ssh into the remote to try to shut it down?  does it shutdown at it's own console?
[10:17] <scriptwarlock> sacarlson, terminal no but cog shutdown is fine
[10:18] <sacarlson> scriptwarlock: what is cog? a user?
[10:18] <scriptwarlock> sacarlson, aw i mean this gear icon top right
[10:18] <scriptwarlock> sacarlson, sorry not clear
[10:18] <vyrgozunqk> fdssdfs, because i don't like the way it works
[10:19] <sacarlson> scriptwarlock: ok the graphic shutdown
[10:19] <vyrgozunqk> it might be pretty but its not user oriented
[10:19] <PrawnSandwich> \exit
[10:19] <vyrgozunqk> its slowing me down
[10:19] <scriptwarlock> sacarlson, :) sorry kinda tense
[10:19] <josep> hi
[10:19] <vyrgozunqk> so i need mate : )
[10:20] <darkcry> please help me out
[10:20] <vyrgozunqk> there is a working repo for 11.10 but still not for 12.04, at least i havent found it
[10:20] <vyrgozunqk> ...
[10:20] <darkcry> backtrack
[10:20] <dalek_> sacarlson, I don't think regionset will work because I am telling it to set region to 0. From the UI for regionset, it looks like setting region 0 is impossible anyway (options only show region 1 to 8)
[10:21] <fdssdfs> 12.04 is great
[10:21] <darkcry> ubuntu\
[10:21] <sacarlson> dalek_: just stick the dvd you want to play in the drive and run it,  isn't that all that is needed?
[10:21] <darkcry> how about linux mint...
[10:22] <dalek_> sacarlson, that is the WHOLE problem.. I can't. I just keep getting "could not read from resource" now.
[10:23] <josep> yes
[10:23] <sacarlson> dalek_: but the disk stays in the drive doesn't it?  any results from regionset when the disk in present in the drive when run?
[10:23] <borik> exit
[10:23] <dalek_> sacarlson, I have DVDs from almost every region... they all used to play just fine in ubuntu. I used to be able to just insert the disc and play, as you described... now something has changed, and that no longer works.
[10:24] <crashanddie> Hi, apologies if I offended anyone earlier, I'm sorry -- frustration got the best of me.
[10:24] <dalek_> sacarlson, what do you mean? I can't run regionset if there is no disc in the drive... there is always a disc in the drive when I run regionset
[10:24] <sacarlson> dalek_: some dvd's won't allow setting to mode 0, so I guess you'll be stuck picking one that it will allow
[10:26] <dalek_> sacarlson, I have a DVD which is region 0... even when I inser that in the drive, I still can't set region to 0 with regionset
[10:26] <sacarlson> dalek_: or find the dvd hack code to reflash the firmcode of your dvd
[10:27] <sacarlson> dalek_: as I said some dvd won't allow region 0 seting
[10:27] <dalek_> sacarlson, is there any way to see which (if anything) region my drive is set to?
[10:27] <crashanddie> I'm trying to upgrade from Natty to Oneiric. I'm getting "E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages." However, apt-get autoremove, doesn't change anything, nor does apt-get -f. This is the apt log from the upgrade tool: http://pastebin.com/tfrN31e1 I've tried using the Update Software tool and sudo do-release-upgrade, both fail with the same error.
[10:28] <vyrgozunqk> crashanddie, try to manually remove broken packages from synaptic
[10:28] <vyrgozunqk> ...
[10:28] <crashanddie> vyrgozunqk, ok, but which ones?
[10:29] <gvo> I think dpkg -l give status info, does that include the broken status?
[10:30] <sacarlson> dalek_:  your drive drive plays discs from region(s):, mask=0xFF
[10:30] <dalek_> what is 0xff?
[10:30] <gvo> crashanddie: Try dpkg -l and look for packages with something other than ii in the first two columns.
[10:31] <vyrgozunqk> crashanddie, in synaptic there is a section for broken packages, remove all of them
[10:31] <gvo> dalek_: 255
[10:31] <vyrgozunqk> ok i have to go
[10:31] <Anomie21> Anyone know why 'Split into volumes of' is greyed out when I'm trying to compress? Do I need to install something else before that'll appear? Not having much luck with google
[10:31] <dalek_> gvo, that's what I thought.. but 255 isn't a region.....
[10:31] <gvo> dalek_: It's probably a mask.
[10:31] <sacarlson> dalek_: I guess it's bit format  each bit is allow or disalow so ff would be all 8 bits
[10:32] <fdssdfs> does anyone know if the ath9k wireless problem is being worked on?
[10:32] <fdssdfs> it got marked " solved" by using a USB dongle on laptops with the chipset
[10:32] <fdssdfs> which is not a solution
[10:32] <dalek_> sacarlson, so would that mean it is set to region 8, or region 0?
[10:33] <sacarlson> dalek_: I guess it's eather all or none,   not sure that a bit set means enable or disable
[10:33] <crashanddie> gvo, some packages are marked as removed with residual configuration, that's all.
[10:34] <gvo> crashanddie: That's not very helpful, is it?
[10:34] <crashanddie> gvo, sorry?
[10:34] <gvo> crashanddie: Just a comment.
[10:35] <dalek_> does anyone else here have a DVD drive that plays DVDs from all regions? if so, what does regionset tell you your drive is set to?
[10:35] <bratanon> Hi, it is possible to add files in /etc/resolver that works as "addons" to the /etc/resolv.conf like in OSX?
[10:35] <crashanddie> gvo, would you like the list of packages that aren't "ii"?
[10:35] <gvo> crashanddie: No, that status isn't anywhere broken.
[10:35] <crashanddie> gvo, FWIW, synaptic reports 0 packages broken
[10:36] <gvo> crashanddie: That's no help either.
[10:36] <crashanddie> I'm not used to synaptic, however, it does show a list of packages that aren't installed, but are from "local" origin. When I right click, I can mark them for "complete removal", however I have no idea how to apply that "complete removal"
[10:37] <dalek_> I just can't understand why I can't play DVDs any more. I've never had this problem in Ubuntu before I replaced my DVD drive. I've always been able to just install the requisite stuff and all my discs would play. This is frustrating
[10:38] <crashanddie> I can't help but notice this line in the apt.log: Reinst Failed early because of linux-image-3.0.0-17-generic:amd64
[10:38] <dalek_> Help! My problem - can no longer play DVDs after new DVD drive replaced. "Could not read from resource" error. How do I fix?
[10:39] <gvo> crashanddie: Are you currently running a 64 bit kernel?
[10:39] <crashanddie> gvo 2.6.38-13-generic x86_64
[10:40] <endstille> hello, is anyone able to use btrfs-tools (for example btrfsck or resize) on an LZO-compressed parition? with recent precise build?
[10:40] <gvo> crashanddie: OK I suspect the "broken" messages have nothing to do with your existing packages.
[10:40] <dalek_> I've so far got nowhere. I have everything installed that I need to play DVDs yet still they will not play. Error "could not read from resource" persists.
[10:40] <sacarlson> dalek_: http://linvdr.org/projects/regionset/  for a bit more info,  also did you try play your dvd with other programs like vlc ?
[10:40] <gvo> crashanddie: It's more like the upgrade has issues.
[10:40] <silv3r_m00n> is it ok to upgrade ubuntu online , instead of a fresh install ?
[10:41] <gvo> silv3r_m00n: sometimes.
[10:41] <gvo> crashanddie: I'd advise a fresh install.
[10:41] <silv3r_m00n> and what happens at other times ?
[10:41] <crashanddie> silv3r_m00n, I've been upgrading all my machines online for quite some time, this is the first time I'm stuck.
[10:41] <OerHeks> dalek_, try an other dvd, some dvd's will never play with css.
[10:41] <crashanddie> silv3r_m00n, the upgrade doesn't happen.
[10:41] <gvo> silv3r_m00n: You have problems like crashanddie has
[10:41] <gvo> silv3r_m00n: It doesn't work.
[10:41] <silv3r_m00n> crashanddie: what happened ? I am on 11.04 and planning to move to 11.10 , did you face the same thing
[10:42] <dalek_> sacarlson, yes, tried VLC, xine, everything... all either fail to put ANYTHING up or report a similar error "could not read from resource"
[10:42] <silv3r_m00n> gvo you mean it stops working after the upgrade ?
[10:42] <gvo> No it means it doesn't upgrade.
[10:42] <dalek_> OerHeks, all these DVDs played fine in the past in Ubuntu.
[10:42] <silv3r_m00n> crashanddie: I mean were you on the same version ?
[10:42] <gvo> silv3r_m00n: the upgrade fails.
[10:43] <crashanddie> silv3r_m00n, yeah, I upgraded from 9.10 to 10.04, 10.10 and finally 11.04 yesterday, that went fine. Today I tried going from 11.04 to 11.10, and it basically refuses to do the upgrade
[10:43] <silv3r_m00n> crashanddie: is everybody facing the same problem ?
[10:43] <crashanddie> silv3r_m00n, nope
[10:43] <silv3r_m00n> oh great
[10:43] <crashanddie> I must be one of the lucky few.
[10:43] <silv3r_m00n> sure , I will try it now
[10:43] <gvo> I normally do a fresh install rather than an upgrade.
[10:44] <silv3r_m00n> I too , but now I have lots of data , can't clean partitions everytime , have been doing all this since long time , now want to go easy
[10:44] <gvo> It's cleaner and avoids incompatibility issues.
[10:44] <gvo> Give it a try, but back up your important data.
[10:45] <dalek_> aaaaarrghh!!!! I don't know what I did, but now xine WILL play DVDs but nothing else will... about an hour ago when I came in here xine was not working either...
[10:45] <crashanddie> gvo, the reason I've been reluctant to do a fresh install is that this is a company-provided computer. There is no /home partition (everything on /), and I don't have enough HD space to back everything up.
[10:45] <gvo> I typically mount /home on a separate partition and don't reformat that.
[10:45] <gvo> crashanddie: usb drive?
[10:46] <waxstone> fresh installs are always recommended over upgrades (if possible!) especially across major versions i.e. 10.x --> 11.x -->12.x
[10:46] <crashanddie> gvo, I could, potentially, resize the current / partition, install the new distribution on whatever space I have available (something like 80GB), and then change the old partition to become my /home.
[10:47] <gvo> That would work but be sure to back up before resizing.
[10:47] <gvo> I had resize break a partition one time.  Just once was enough.
[10:47] <crashanddie> I hear you
[10:47] <dalek_> nope... I spoke too early. xine does not work either. For some reason the DVD copyright plays then it dies with a new error "error reading nav packet"
[10:48] <crashanddie> One thing's for sure though, if I do a fresh install, I'm going for mint :P
[10:48] <crashanddie> Anyway, thanks for the help everyone.
[10:48] <gvo> I have mint 12 on two systems.
[10:48] <sacarlson> crashanddie: in the future on a system like that maybe try lvm partitions that allow dynamic size changes
[10:48] <gvo> My netbook and another server.
[10:49] <dalek_> I don't get it. VLC, Totem and Xine ALL used to be able to play any DVD.... now I get partial playback from Xine and nothing from anything else :(
[10:49] <crashanddie> gvo, I have mint 11 on my home server, I've been waiting for MATE to become a bit more stable before throwing 12 on it. It finally seems usable, so I'll go for that.
[10:49] <dalek_> who can help me get my DVD playback working again?
[10:51] <gvo> crashanddie: It's working well for me.  I really only use the netbook actively.  The server just sits there and runs programs/backups etc.
[10:53] <sacarlson> dalek_: maybe it just a set of bad dvd disks,  I lost alot my my dvd when my room got too how and they become unreadable with bubles seen under the surface
[10:53] <sacarlson> to hot
[10:54] <dalek_> sacarlson, the DVDs are all good. They all play on my multiregion DVD player on the TV and my other ubuntu desktop box.
[10:55] <sacarlson> dalek_: ok that proves that's wrong then
[10:55] <sacarlson> dalek_: take the dvd reader back since you just got it
[10:55] <dalek_> sacarlson, I am sure it has got to be connected with replacing the DVD drive in this laptop.
[10:59] <dalek_> sacarlson, I don't know if I can. It came from Toshiba spare parts supply Australia. (empr or something)
[10:59] <timkuijsten> what's up with the mysql-server upgrade from last night? it looks like it's breaking permissions..
[11:01] <hoshi411_> what makes ubuntu so slick that it mounts my partitions and makes them accessable to me by default while opensuse kde will not let even an admin account access them O_o
[11:03] <dalek_> sacarlson, ok.. I've decided to risk it and use regionset to set the drive's region to region 2... and now. region 2 DVDs play, but none of my other region DVDs play... and I can only change the region 4 more times.... Why does regionset have NO option to choose region 0?
[11:06] <sacarlson> dalek_: it's part of the firmware in the dvd,  it's all about the movie makers not wanting there movies copied and shiped overseas
[11:07] <dalek_> How do I reset my DVD drive's firmware?
[11:08] <mi3> HI!
[11:09] <dalek_> Is there an easy way to see what model number my DVD drive is through ubuntu without having to unscrew the machine and read the label?
[11:10] <cornerse> dalek_: try lspci.
[11:10] <cornerse> or lsmod.
[11:10] <mi3> When I run the rss scripts in conky, after a few minutes,  this error shows up on my terminal and the rss windows disappear, here is the paste http://pastebin.com/pdXamSac any suggestions?
[11:10] <deployment> anyone help me with ODBC to MySQL, remote workstation . connection Failed:[HY000][MySQL][ODBC 5.1 Driver]
[11:12] <plouffe> dalek_, http://www.brighthub.com/computing/linux/articles/100352.aspx
[11:15] <alturic> hey all, is there a "compatability" list someone on the ubuntu site/forum thats regularly updated? im wondering if my raid chipset/wireless usb adapater will work on ubuntu
[11:15] <hoshi411_> so im thinking just tar my windows and mbr partitions , reformat the drive and make several partitions and then untar windows andthe mbr back on..... sound good?
[11:22] <iceroot> hoshi411_: waht about dd?
[11:23] <AminosAmigos> hello
[11:23] <iceroot> deployment: maybe #mysql
[11:24] <deployment> iceroot: ta
[11:25] <sacarlson> dalek_: and I found there is a program in linux to flash dvd http://forum.rpc1.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=45559
[11:26] <dalek_> sacarlson, thanks... and I found my drive is a Matshita DVD-RAM UJ-820S but have so far been unsuccessful in finding a copy of the firmware to download
[11:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> Hi
[11:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> gnome-panel is taking 2gb (56%) of my memory
[11:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> i can see this with ps -aux
[11:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> ubuntu 11.10
[11:29] <WhereIsMySpoon> anyone got any idea why
[11:29] <hoshi411_> iceroot:  if i used dd, i would need the exact same size parititon to restore it on right
[11:29] <iceroot> WhereIsMySpoon: yes its a high value but you know this? http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[11:29] <iceroot> hoshi411_: correct
[11:29] <sara2010> any one help me
[11:29] <iceroot> hoshi411_: maybe clonezilla can resize it while making a dump
[11:29] <iceroot> !ask | sara2010
[11:30] <WhereIsMySpoon> iceroot, that would be fine if my computer wasnt actually slow
[11:30] <sara2010> i m trying to use d-link pci wireless card .. but its not working !
[11:30] <iceroot> !wifi | sara2010
[11:30] <iceroot> sara2010: maybe there is something usefull for you on your issue
[11:31] <scriptwarlock> Jordan_U, sudo shutdown -h now is working so i guess this is not ubuntus issue anymore. so chmod thing is a serious mess? so i can change my reply post in the forum
[11:32] <sara2010> iceroot,  .. there is no driver for DWA-525
[11:33] <scriptwarlock> sacarlson,  sudo shutdown -h now is working so i guess this is not ubuntus issue anymore. so chmod thing is a serious mess? so i can change my reply post in the forum
[11:33] <sara2010> iceroot,  in controller   showing     5:09.0 Network controller: RaLink Device 3060
[11:34] <iceroot> sara2010: but there should be a driver for that
[11:34] <sacarlson> scriptwarlock: so if you reset the chmod it then works?
[11:34] <iceroot> sara2010: sounds like a common card
[11:34] <sacarlson> scriptwarlock: I didn't tell you to chmod as part of my line.  did you add it anyway?
[11:35] <scriptwarlock> sacarlson,  yes
[11:36] <scriptwarlock> sacarlson, is adding that certain app to the group is fine?
[11:36] <sara2010> iceroot,  . there is no common card !
[11:36] <Foo32856> Hello
[11:36] <sacarlson> scriptwarlock: you can add it to a user with limited sudo to allow them to shutdown
[11:36] <Foo32856> I've got a computer with noveau drivers, but I want to install the prorpietary nvidia drivers.
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> Foo32856: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[11:37] <Foo32856> ActionParsnip: thanks
[11:38] <scriptwarlock> sacarlson, still figuring out how to do this
[11:39] <sacarlson> scriptwarlock: you want a user to remote in and shutdown without a password I guess?  or do you need a group of users with this ability?
[11:40] <scriptwarlock> sacarlson, this app i'm using has the feature to remote shutdown and reboot dunno why in the first place they allow to chmod 7755 those
[11:41] <sara2010> iceroot,  ? waiting
[11:41] <sacarlson> scriptwarlock: ok so is it run from only one system to one user?  or does it already work now and we are done?
[11:42] <scriptwarlock> sacarlson, yes
[11:43] <dalek_> I have discovered that the whole problem is impossible and my DVD drive is basically screwed when it comes to playing DVDs. DVD playback on this laptop is simply no longer an option. :(
[11:43] <scriptwarlock> sacarlson, ah this is a cyber shop of mine and using some cyber cage management tools that has the feature of remote shutdown. so i guess i wont use the chmod 7755 anymore
[11:44] <scriptwarlock> sacarlson, *cyber cafe
[11:44] <sacarlson> scriptwarlock: I"m not sure "yes" is an answer to my question so I'll assume it's the last and that it works and we are done
[11:45] <dalek_> when you've been in this channel for over 3 hours and tried everything 10 times over, it's time to quit. There is no solution. Thanks to everyone who tried to help, but this is getting nowhere fast.
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> dalek_  life's a struggle
[11:46] <scriptwarlock> sacarlson, yes still looking some workaround but the best thing for now is to bring this to the app developer so he can done some pathches or whatever solutions for this. big thanks to you and everyone.
[11:48] <newb_> People, I need help with schroot. I have Apache installed there, but my session isn't persistent
[11:48] <newb_> It's like Apache starts and the session end, and apache is stopped again
[11:48] <newb_> If I login at chroot and start apache, all works, but if I exit, it's like I logout the entire system and shutdown it...
[11:49] <ikonia> newb_: why have you chrooted apache ?
[11:49] <ikonia> newb_: when you exit the chroot, your shell running inside the chroot will be terminated
[11:51] <teel> i did update-grub with os_prober from ubuntu, but my windows xp partition is not bootable! when i look into grub.cfg he found it on the wrong disk! (just my external hdd for storage) so i tried editing the set root=(/dev/sdb,msdos1) but it wont help :/ my windows xp is on sda2 how do i make it work?
[11:51] <SunTsu> newb_: chroot() has no notion of "sessions" - it's a process attribute
[11:57] <newb_> ikonia, SunTzu: I have Apache running PHP 5.2 at main system, I needed a fast way to start another Apache session running PHP 5.3 (and a lot of other different support) at same server. I used schroot to do this, then. Now I need this start at boot with the server. For no I'm doing this manually... :(
[11:58] <newb_> ikonia, SunTzu: Start Apache at boot starts and kill the Apache proccess, and manually start isn't a good option for me
[11:59] <newb_> ikonia, SunTzu: Do you have another idea to have this working at schroot?
[12:04] <zykes-> to add a upstart job
[12:04] <zykes-> isn't it enough to add a /etc/init/x.conf and a symlink ?
[12:05] <broglin> my computer had a usb key plugged in and was rebooted. now it's not mounted. i only have CLI access. How can I remount it?
[12:05] <broglin> (CLI access over ssh)
[12:06] <[[thufir]]> I'm having trouble with RVM.  It installed, and I even compiled ruby.  However, I don't seem to "have" ruby.  how do I know that it's actually compiled correctly?
[12:06] <gvo> broglin: can you remove and reinstall it?
[12:06] <broglin> gvo: no, the machine is 5km away
[12:07] <gvo> broglin: OK then dmesg | more and find what device the usb drive has become.
[12:07] <gvo> broglin: then mount manually
[12:07] <gvo> broglin: are you sure it's not mounted?
[12:07] <broglin> gvo: yeah
[12:08] <gvo> ok do the dmesg|more
[12:08] <broglin> gvo: what do i look for there?
[12:09] <broglin> gvo: oh, i think i have it
[12:09] <broglin> [    5.567495] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdc] 7831552 512-byte logical blocks: (4.00 GB/3.73 GiB)
[12:09] <gvo> Right the next line might be more useful.
[12:10] <gvo> [1400130.487607]  sdd: sdd1
[12:10] <gvo> Something like that one.
[12:10] <broglin> gvo: [    5.568257] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdc] Write Protect is off
[12:10] <broglin> ?
[12:10] <gvo> It's a few more lines down.
[12:10] <lars__> I'm going nuts here. Could someone please give me a hand making ssh with an eToken work?
[12:11] <gvo> see if there is a sdc: sdc1 or something similar.
[12:11] <broglin> gvo: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc did the job :-)
[12:11] <broglin> gvo: yay, it works now. thanks for the help!
[12:11] <gvo> np
[12:15] <MeirD> Hey, I am taking an OS course and I am trying to understand how mutex is implemented in linux. Is it hardware/software implementation? I know it can be achieved with TLS (which is hardware) but then the "enter routine" in assembly is software (which casues busy waiting).. kind of confused here
[12:17] <Aphox> oi
[12:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> hi i went afk, i have a problem where if i run ps -aux i can see gnome-panel is using 56% of my %mem, and my pc is also really slow to start up new apps, e.g. a new terminal takes 10-15 seconds to be completely ready with a prompt
[12:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> anyone got any idea about why this is happening?
[12:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> im running 11.10
[12:22] <moth3r> Hi, is there a way to install this theme on Ubuntu 12? http://nale12.deviantart.com/art/OMG-Suite-288398137 Thx!
[12:22] <iceroot> moth3r: #ubuntu+1
[12:23] <MonkeyDust> guys, the Flash video on this local newssite won't play in Firefox or Chromium, adblocker is disabled -- it plays perfectly in windows -- hints & tips?
[12:24] <theadmin> MonkeyDust: Sure it's Flash? It might be plain media embed
[12:24] <uni4dfx> How do I enable crontab? I've added a minute rule but it does not get executed even though cron is running..
[12:24] <MonkeyDust> theadmin  properties: SWF
[12:25] <theadmin> MonkeyDust: I see, hm, uh. What does it do at all? Black screen? Or something more senseful?
[12:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> uni4dfx, try grepping the output of CRON process in syslog
[12:25] <MonkeyDust> theadmin  white rectangle, no error messages
[12:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> if it's returning anything other than 0 then somethings going wrong
[12:26] <theadmin> MonkeyDust: Seen Flash do that yeah, not sure what causes it :/
[12:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> theadmin, did you see my problem i posted up a few mins ago?
[12:26] <uni4dfx> WhereIsMySpoon you're right. It's crapping out Authentication failure errors
[12:26] <theadmin> WhereIsMySpoon: I do... Well, gnome is very memory consuming indeed, altough thismuch is sort of weird
[12:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> uni4dfx, :)
[12:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> theadmin, i did a small check with dding from /dev/zero to a file on my /home/blah and i got horrible speed results
[12:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> it really is an issue
[12:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> and as i said, a terminal window can take up to 15 secs to load
[12:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> from click to prompt
[12:31] <WhereIsMySpoon> theadmin, anything you can help me with?
[12:31] <WhereIsMySpoon> or should i try asking on askubuntu
[12:31] <theadmin> WhereIsMySpoon: Meh I dunno. If it's just gnome-panel, can you try some other desktop maybe, and if that fixes it, see if you can report a bug
[12:31] <WhereIsMySpoon> theadmin, i am running xfce on a box with the exact same setup
[12:31] <WhereIsMySpoon> and it is a lot faster
[12:32] <theadmin> WhereIsMySpoon: If it's general slowness and appears in desktops other than gnome, I tend to think it's some driver issue.
[12:32] <theadmin> WhereIsMySpoon: Hm, so just gnome then? Well... Report a bug I suppose. I dunno what else to do here
[12:32] <MagePsycho> how to find the error_log file in my server via ssh???
[12:33] <Whiskey> when you do apt-get install can you specefi whitch version you will have of the soft? if its more then 1 versiona aviable?
[12:33] <WhereIsMySpoon> theadmin, link?
[12:33] <theadmin> WhereIsMySpoon: Nuh-uh, run "ubuntu-bug gnome-panel"
[12:33] <WhereIsMySpoon> oh
[12:33] <WhereIsMySpoon> thats nice
[12:33] <sacarlson> MagePsycho:  cd /var/log ; ls
[12:34] <WhereIsMySpoon> theadmin, that doesnt tell them what the problem is though
[12:34] <WhereIsMySpoon> and it doesnt fix my problem
[12:34] <WhereIsMySpoon> =/
[12:34] <theadmin> WhereIsMySpoon: It will ask you for a description at a later stage.
[12:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> oh i see
[12:35] <MagePsycho> sacarlson: i didn't saw any apache error log there
[12:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> theadmin, in a popup?
[12:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> or how
[12:35] <theadmin> WhereIsMySpoon: So just enter it, hope they notice it and...
[12:35] <theadmin> WhereIsMySpoon: It will open a browser window (given you have a browser installed, if not it will fail)
[12:35] <sacarlson> Whiskey: some apps may have more than one version in a repository and there are options called pinning  if you wish to select one
[12:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> theadmin, automatically at some point?
[12:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> or what
[12:35] <theadmin> WhereIsMySpoon: Well did you run the command?
[12:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> yes
[12:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> it popped up a thing
[12:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> which was just an error report
[12:35] <Whiskey> kk
[12:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> then it said send
[12:36] <FloodBot1> WhereIsMySpoon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> that was it
[12:36] <theadmin> WhereIsMySpoon: Well if you click "Send" or whatever a browser window should pop up, but if you're on a slow setup, well, expect slowness xD
[12:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> >_>
[12:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> theadmin, no browser window popped up and i have ff and chromium installed
[12:36] <theadmin> WhereIsMySpoon: Weird...
[12:36] <theadmin> It's supposed to at least :/
[12:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> oh wait
[12:36] <sacarlson> MagePsycho: did you try cd /var/log/apache2 ; ?
[12:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> chrome has a launchpad tab
[12:37] <theadmin> WhereIsMySpoon: Yeah that should be it
[12:37] <MagePsycho> sacarlson: there is no any apache2 folder in var/log
[12:37] <MagePsycho> sacarlson: there is dir like: samba ngnix etc
[12:38] <sacarlson> MagePsycho: if you don't see the /var/log/apache2 ; directory I guess you don't have apache2 installed on a ubuntu system
[12:40] <uni4dfx> Interesting. CRON does not work until you set a root password. Ubuntu could've mentioned this somewhere...
[12:40] <Pici> uni4dfx: cron definitely works without a root password set.
[12:40] <MagePsycho> /etc/httpd/logs/error_log ?
[12:41] <uni4dfx> Pici nope, fresh install, did not work until i set a root password
[12:41] <Pici> uni4dfx: I've done many Ubuntu installs, none of them with the root password set, and most use custom crontabs.
[12:42] <uni4dfx> Pici well looks like you haven't done enough of them
[12:42] <Pici> uni4dfx: Can you perhaps explain why it wasn't working without a password set?
[12:43] <uni4dfx> Pici It was spewing out Authentication failure errors until the second I ran sudo passwd root
[12:43] <Pici> uni4dfx: In root's crontab?
[12:43] <sacarlson> MagePsycho: I don't see any dir on my ubuntu 10.04 in /etc/httpd ; maybe you installed apache2 in some customized manner other than with ubuntu packages
[12:43] <uni4dfx> Pici Yes
[12:44] <theadmin> uni4dfx: Please note that for root you may not use "sudo crontab -e" or anything. You have to edit /etc/crontab, it should not need any password set or anything
[12:44] <Pici> theadmin: sudo crontab -e works just fine for me.
[12:44] <MagePsycho> sacarlson: how to know if php is running in apache server or else?
[12:44] <arch_adam> how do i configure postfix to send outgoing mail
[12:45] <theadmin> Pici: Oh, huh. Does it open /etc/crontab (or, that is, save to it after editing the temporary file?)
[12:45] <onosendi> exit
[12:45] <Pici> theadmin: no, it saves to root's crontab in /var/spool/cron/
[12:45] <theadmin> Pici: Ah, okay, huh. Still weird why would anything need a password.
[12:45] <Pici> theadmin: agreed.
[12:46] <Pici> uni4dfx: I'd be really curious to see why it would need a password.  I may be doing a new Ubuntu virtual install here soon, so I'll give it a look when I get the chance.
[12:46] <sacarlson> MagePsycho: make a file in your apache2 /var/www space with <?php phpinfo(); exit(); ?>
[12:48] <MagePsycho> Server API 	FPM/FastCGI
[12:48] <MagePsycho> so now where could be the error logs
[12:48] <PiranahOT> Question: SMB share setup however when users access the only get read and write options no delete. any ideas ?
[12:49] <WhereIsMySpoon> PiranahOT, do they have access to delete?
[12:50] <sacarlson> MagePsycho: like with the name phptest.php  with this in it <?php phpinfo(); exit(); ?> ; open that file in your browser http://localhost/phptest/php
[12:50] <PiranahOT> The SMB users do not seem to have acess to delete however the files are set to 664 and folders set to 775
[12:51] <uni4dfx> Pici yeah I'd like to know as well, because I've always used crontab -e without a problem in the past.
[12:51] <WhereIsMySpoon> how do i check what window manager im using (i.e. gnome 3/2/whatever)
[12:52] <WhereIsMySpoon> er Desktops, not window managers
[12:52] <WhereIsMySpoon> blah i guess theyre the same thing
[12:52] <WhereIsMySpoon> but whateve
[12:53] <theadmin> WhereIsMySpoon: Well you can't really "check" it, and no, they're not the same thing
[12:53] <WhereIsMySpoon> theadmin, i mean like can i check whether im using gnome3  or gnome 3 fallback
[12:53] <sacarlson> MagePsycho: http://www.howtoforge.com/using-php5-fpm-with-apache2-on-ubuntu-11.10
[12:54] <MagePsycho> error_log	/var/log/php-fpm/www-error.log
[12:54] <theadmin> WhereIsMySpoon: If you see a panel with "Applications", "Places" and "System" on top, it's either gnome2 or gnome3 fallback, depending on your Ubuntu version. If you have "Activities" on top, that's the standard gnome3. If you have an Ubuntu logo and a panel on the left, that's Unity. XFCE... Uh, look for "Applications Menu" on top if I recall right. LXDE - strange, feather-like logo at the bottom
[12:54] <AminosAmigos> hello
[12:54] <WhereIsMySpoon> theadmin, i have only applications and places
[12:54] <sacarlson> MagePsycho: I forgot about that php has it's own logs
[12:54] <theadmin> WhereIsMySpoon: gnome3 fallback
[12:54] <WhereIsMySpoon> k
[12:57] <hrolf> Hi ubuntu, I installed openjdk-6-jdk and when I type javac it says it is found in the package openjdk-6-jdk.
[12:57] <hrolf> But openjdk-6-jdk is already installed
[12:57] <mosno> hrolf, type the full pathname of the executable
[12:58] <theadmin> hrolf: Java is a bit weird, you need to log out and back in after installing it, it doesn't install to standard $PATH
[12:58] <hrolf> I did a 'find -name 'javac'' and it appears in /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/javac
[12:58] <WhereIsMySpoon> hrolf, or you can just change .bashrc yourself
[12:58] <hrolf> How do I make it so that when I type javac from anywhere it works
[12:58]  * mosno wonders what it does in debian (or if it's even in debian) -- sounds like a DP violation, no?
[12:59] <mosno> hrolf, what theadmin said
[12:59] <theadmin> hrolf: As I said above, log out and back in, it should get added to your path thereafter
[12:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> export JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk
[12:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> export $PATH=JAVA_HOME/bin:$PATH
[12:59] <cveazey> Has anyone had success running IE in Wine?
[12:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> why would you want to :S
[12:59] <hrolf> theadmin: I have restarted my pc (so I doubt logging out is going to do anything)
[12:59] <mosno> cveazey, full VM for the win
[12:59] <theadmin> hrolf: Ah, okay, well I dunno, I guess add /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin to $PATH, but... weird
[12:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> but cveazey im sure you can find the answer to that on google
[12:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> better than on here
[12:59] <hrolf> theadmin: But if you say so I may give it one last try
[13:00] <theadmin> hrolf: Nah no point
[13:00] <cveazey> Do you need a purchased version of Windows to run on VM?
[13:00] <hrolf> theadmin: How do you add paths to $PATH?
[13:00] <theadmin> hrolf: How did you install it anyway?
[13:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> hrolf, open your .bashrc
[13:00] <theadmin> cveazey: Yes
[13:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> it's in your /home/<name>
[13:00] <hrolf> theadmin: Synaptic Package manager
[13:00] <sacarlson> cveazey: you can trick sites make them think your using IE in when you really run firefox
[13:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> gksu gedit .bashrc
[13:00] <mosno> cveazey, of course. you're probably not even licensed to run IE on a non-Windows OS
[13:00] <theadmin> WhereIsMySpoon: You don't do THAT
[13:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> theadmin, ??
[13:00] <maskupe> hi im using ubuntu FIVE POINT TEN how do i upgrade this? thank YOU
[13:00] <theadmin> hrolf: Open ~/.bashrc in your favorite text editor
[13:00] <theadmin> WhereIsMySpoon: You don't edit files you normally have access to as a user as root
[13:00] <mosno> maskupe, who, me?
[13:01] <cveazey> sacarlson, how do you 'trick' sites? I am trying to print coupons. coupon sites dislike Linux.
[13:01] <WhereIsMySpoon> theadmin, bleh yea
[13:01] <WhereIsMySpoon> sorry
[13:01] <hrolf> theadmin: Then?
[13:01] <WhereIsMySpoon> hrolf, add the lines i put above
[13:01] <meet> hi..i just installed the marlin file browser. But how to make it the default file browser and remove nautilus?
[13:01] <ponrajuganesh> Greetings!!!
[13:01] <theadmin> maskupe: Um... Not possible anymore really
[13:01] <bluefrog> cveazey, at least one version of seven or vista (don't remember which) forbids virtualisation (you need to read the entirity of the license to find out)
[13:01] <ponrajuganesh> what option must be given in the cron tab so that the script runs only once in the life time?
[13:02] <sacarlson> cveazey:  you change agent https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/user-agent-switcher/
[13:02] <ponrajuganesh> what option must be given in the cron tab so that the script runs only once in the life time?
[13:02] <theadmin> hrolf: Well, add the following line at the end: export PATH=$PATH:/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin
[13:02] <WhereIsMySpoon> its better to add a java_home first imo
[13:02] <WhereIsMySpoon> but whichever
[13:02] <MrSassyPants> I need a howto on how to create a .deb from source
[13:02] <renier_> hey, does anyone know how to prove that a .tar file has not been edited since a certain date?
[13:03] <cveazey> I will give it a try. Do you have any other tips?
[13:03] <theadmin> !checkinstall | MrSassyPants
[13:03] <jrib> !packaging | MrSassyPants
[13:03] <bluefrog> maskupe, quickest thing to do is to back your data and make a fresh install of the latest version
[13:03] <MrSassyPants> so, just 'checkinstall' instead of 'make install' ?
[13:03] <theadmin> MrSassyPants: Pretty much yes
[13:03] <hrolf> theadmin, WhereIsMySpoon: I added the two lines, do I need to restart something?
[13:04] <Xabster> I'm using RealVNC 4 Free to connect to my Ubuntu 11.10 via remote desktop from my Windows 7 Ultimate. Keyboard layout is Danish on both systems. Physical keyboards are properly recognized, but when using VNC the keyboard layout seems to change to english (that is, not on either computer, but only keypresses within VNC) - do anyone know what I can do?
[13:04] <meet> how to make MARLIN the default file browser?
[13:04] <WhereIsMySpoon> hrolf, your terminal window
[13:04] <MrSassyPants> theadmin, where will the .deb file end up at?
[13:04] <WhereIsMySpoon> save and close the file first
[13:04] <jrib> MrSassyPants: you should create a proper package and avoid checkinstall
[13:04] <MrSassyPants> jrib, what now
[13:04] <jrib> MrSassyPants: see ubottu's packaging links
[13:04] <hrolf> WhereIsMySpoon: bash: export: `/usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games=JAVA_HOME/bin:/usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games': not a valid identifier
[13:05] <WhereIsMySpoon> er sorry
[13:05] <WhereIsMySpoon> $JAVA_HOME
[13:05] <WhereIsMySpoon> not JAVA_HOME
[13:05] <FloodBot1> WhereIsMySpoon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:05] <MrSassyPants> jrib, I'm just doing a backport for 10.04
[13:05] <jrib> MrSassyPants: yeah, so?
[13:05] <MrSassyPants> jrib, and I want the package manager to be aware of the installation
[13:05] <jrib> MrSassyPants: if you're doing a backport of a package from a later ubuntu version, then checkinstall is definitely not the way to go.  Read the !backport factoid
[13:05] <MrSassyPants> jrib, so what do I really need? I have better things to do than read package manager docs all day
[13:06] <sral> ssh with PKCS#11 token anyone?
[13:06] <sacarlson> sral: ya I saw one
[13:06] <jrib> MrSassyPants: checkinstall will create a "dumb" .deb.  i.e. you will have a package but meta information like dependencies won't be there
[13:06] <MrSassyPants> jrib, well, it's not a backport from a later ubuntu version. Maybe I was using the wrong term. I'm just trying to have a newer version of someting available on 10.04
[13:06] <hrolf> WhereIsMySpoon: bash: export: `=/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk': not a valid identifier
[13:06] <hrolf> bash: export: `/usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games=JAVA_HOME/bin:/usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games': not a valid identifier
[13:07] <arch_adam> can anyone shed any light on this? mail postfix/local[2682]: E29652AEA6: to=<info@codewalkers.co.uk>, relay=local, delay=0.05, delays=0/0/0/0.05, dsn=5.1.1, status=bounced (unknown user: "info")
[13:07] <sral> sacarlson, and you could help me make that work?
[13:07] <jrib> MrSassyPants: there's a recipe on the packaging section of the wiki on how to do that
[13:07] <jrib> MrSassyPants: (properly)
[13:07] <sacarlson> sral: I already lost it from your last visit
[13:07] <MrSassyPants> jrib, link me
[13:07] <jrib> MrSassyPants: /msg ubottu packaging
[13:07] <MrSassyPants> jrib, gives me about 5 links and hundreds of pages. pass.
[13:07] <sral> sacarlson, what did you lose?
[13:08] <meet> how to remove nautilus?
[13:08] <jrib> MrSassyPants: it gives you 5 links and I told you to look at the recipe section...
[13:08] <pa> canonical is just a bunch of fucking lames..
[13:08] <sacarlson> sral: I had researched it and found you had left before I found it and now I lost it
[13:08] <WhereIsMySpoon> hrolf, eh?
[13:08] <jrib> erm 3 links
[13:08] <Renbot> hey, does anyone know how to prove that a .tar file has not been edited since a certain date?
[13:08] <pa> here another.. xtables addons. they dont ship the common tools to use it
[13:08] <pa> jesus christ
[13:08] <pa> then they complain they lose market share
[13:08] <pa> of course
[13:08] <pa> ubuntu is sucking harder and harder
[13:09] <sral> sacarlson, arrrrrrgh. anything you remember?
[13:09] <pa> enjoy with your unity canonical, alone!
[13:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> ah crap
[13:09] <jrib> MrSassyPants: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Recipes/PackageUpdate
[13:09] <hrolf> WhereIsMySpoon: Still error http://paste.ubuntu.com/881801/
[13:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> hrolf, its export PATH=$JAVA_HOME/bin:$PATH
[13:09] <meet> this is annoying... please someone answer!! how to remove nautilus
[13:09] <Renbot> hey, does anyone know how to prove that a .tar file has not been edited since a certain date?
[13:09] <MrSassyPants> jrib, was already reading
[13:09] <KM0201> meet: why on earth would you remove nautilus?
[13:09] <sacarlson> sral: I'm looking again but I did see that openssh had to be compiled with those libs setup but not sure if ubuntu defaults with them active
[13:10] <Pici> pa: Feel free to file a bug, complaning here just annoys us.
[13:10] <theadmin> Renbot: Uh, look at the modification date?
[13:10] <meet> KM0201 i wanna use marlin
[13:10] <KM0201> hmm...
[13:10] <meet> KM0201 anyways to do that?
[13:10] <Renbot> theadmin: that is considered "not sufficient"
[13:10] <sacarlson> sral: http://andys.org.uk/bits/2009/12/23/openssh-and-opensc-for-debian-and-ubuntu/
[13:11] <Renbot> i need something more official
[13:11] <hrolf> WhereIsMySpoon: bash: export: `=/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk': not a valid identifier
[13:11] <theadmin> Renbot: Well, yeah, easy to fake but... Look at the modification date of the "youngest" file in the archive? There's no real or tar-specific way to do it...
[13:11] <sacarlson> sral: as that seems to point out opensc is not active by default so maybe in ppa ?
[13:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> >_>
[13:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> export JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk
[13:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> export PATH=$JAVA_HOME/bin:$PATH
[13:11] <KM0201> meet: it might be (a lot) easier to just install marlin, and make it the default file browser.
[13:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> thats all you should have
[13:11] <AdvoWork> hi there, having a problem, brand new lappy, booted it up from cd for ubuntu, picked test live ubuntu, and it did nothing for ages and ages. Had to power it off, now i can't get it to go back to that menu, it just keeps going through the Ubuntu .. . . . screen, any ideas please?
[13:11] <FloodBot1> WhereIsMySpoon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:11] <KM0201> because Nautilus controls many things on ubuntu, not just the file browser.
[13:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> or whatever your home is hrolf
[13:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> hrolf, dont copy my path
[13:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> replace it with your own
[13:12] <Renbot> so, extract tar and look at youngest file in tar. Would u consider this hard to fake?
[13:12] <sral> sacarlson, there is a major change in openssh 5.4: support for PKCS#11
[13:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> but the commands are the same apart from that
[13:12] <Renbot> this is for uni btw
[13:12] <hrolf> WhereIsMySpoon: Yay
[13:12] <meet> KM0201 i clicked the set as default option in marlin, but to no avail
[13:12] <hrolf> WhereIsMySpoon: Thanks. Is that the only way to add to $PATH?
[13:12] <sacarlson> sral: ok so what version are you installing on your ubuntu version?
[13:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> hrolf, to export it in the .bashrc? yes
[13:12] <theadmin> hrolf: Well yes, though you can simply add paths as well without defining extra variables
[13:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> unless you dont want it persisting
[13:13] <theadmin> hrolf: Might as well look at, uh, /etc/environment
[13:13] <sral> sacarlson, ubuntu 11.10 -> open ssh 5.8p1
[13:13] <hrolf> theadmin: Thanks.
[13:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> hrolf, now just open a new terminal window and type java
[13:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> should work
[13:14] <sacarlson> sral: ok then that link I gave should work then
[13:14] <hrolf> WhereIsMySpoon: Yes, it's working.
[13:14] <WhereIsMySpoon> good
[13:14] <Renbot> theadmin: would you consider your method as difficult to fake?
[13:14] <theadmin> Renbot: Nope, not really, there's no method that would be unfakeable anyway... tar doesn't store such information I'd believe
[13:14] <LiNuX`sup> if I have issues running gnome3 in ubuntu would I seek help here or is there a gnome channel I should ask in?
[13:15] <theadmin> LiNuX`sup: Since gnome3 is official for Ubuntu, ask here.
[13:15] <theadmin> LiNuX`sup: However, it's only official since Oneiric, and not supported at all on earlier releases, so.
[13:15] <Renbot> theadmin: okey, so no luck? I have to prove it to get marks for programming assignment...
[13:15] <theadmin> Renbot: Weird people :$ I dunno how they want you to prove it honestly
[13:16] <LiNuX`sup> when I load gnome3 it doesn't load it at all. instead it appears to load the same integrated toolbar from unity only showing the file menu and docking windows to top right of screen
[13:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> LiNuX`sup, are you choosing a gnome3 session via the login screen?
[13:16] <LiNuX`sup> yes I am
[13:16] <sral> sacarlson, it should be able to add the token via "ssh -add -s /lib64/libeToken.so.8" as the site states as well. only it doesn't. ssh-keygen -D also says "no keys"
[13:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> LiNuX`sup, have you removed unity?
[13:16] <Renbot> theadmin: such a shit system. Their online submission failed to upload my file. Now I must prove that I did it.
[13:16] <LiNuX`sup> no I havn't and don't wish to
[13:17] <mosno> LiNuX`sup, try it for a new user
[13:17] <MrSassyPants> jrib, debuild -S -sa fails with a fatal error
[13:17] <theadmin> Renbot: That doesn't make much sense to me... :/
[13:17] <LiNuX`sup> could compiz be the culprit?
[13:17] <sral> sacarlson, I read that latest would be to use pcscd, not opensc
[13:17] <jrib> MrSassyPants:you need to be more specific (i have to leave soon though)
[13:17] <theadmin> Renbot: Also, please watch your language here, swearing is not welcome
[13:17] <mosno> LiNuX`sup, gnome shell doesn't use compiz
[13:17] <LiNuX`sup> if I have it set to emerald in compiz for window manager?
[13:17] <LiNuX`sup> so I should disable that and try again?
[13:18] <Renbot> theadmin:  sorry, frustrated as you can imagine. 12 hours down the drain
[13:18] <mosno> LiNuX`sup, you should do what i suggested, unless someone has a better idea
[13:18] <MrSassyPants> jrib, well, it's just the source diff that fails
[13:18] <LiNuX`sup> just try a new user... will do.
[13:18] <LiNuX`sup> be back
[13:18] <jrib> MrSassyPants: make sure you are able to build the unmodified package first.  If yes, then pastebin your modifications
[13:18] <jrib> and full error output
[13:19] <AdvoWork> just tried installing on a brand new laptop with 10.10. its now come to a screen stating General Error Mounting filesystems. then about a maintenance shell, and tthen bash: /root/.bashrc: Input/Output error. ANy ideas please?
[13:20] <MrSassyPants> jrib, basically diff fails
[13:20] <jrib> MrSassyPants: that's too vague for anyone to help you
[13:20] <sral> sacarlson, "no slots" it says, sry
[13:22] <sacarlson> sral: I'm not sure this is related but I found this http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.network.openssh.devel/10995
[13:24] <sral> sacarlson, no, sorry, did not help. but let me say that I really appreciate your help.
[13:26] <sral> sacarlson, I'm getting crazy, the token works in firefox, in evolution, in console using pkcs11-tool. only ssh won't work
[13:38] <MrSassyPants> ok, I've compiled and checkinstalled rtorrent and libtorrent now. Problem: rtorrent refuses to start as it doesn't find libtorrent.so.14 - However libtorrent.so.14 is right there in /usr/local/lib and /usr/local/lib is in /etc/ld.so.conf.d/libc.conf
[13:38] <MrSassyPants> what gives?
[13:39] <zth> MrSassyPants, try "sudo ldconfig" and then retry it
[13:40] <MrSassyPants> zth, that seems to have done it :O thx
[13:41] <zth> MrSassyPants, no problem! for future reference, use that whenever you've compiled yourself and it dont find a library that's actually there. when installing via synaptic or apt, it auto-does that command
[13:41] <MrSassyPants> aight
[13:42] <abe__> plisss help me
[13:42] <abe__> http://ompldr.org/vZDB2dg/Screenshot%20at%202012-03-13%2020_26_47.png
[13:42] <ikonia> abe__: looks like you don't have open ssl installed (doubtful) or you've deleted the libraries
[13:43] <sral> sacarlson, I think I'm onto something. My token stores the private key and the x.509 certificate. the certificate contains the public key by definition, but openssh seems to expect that separate.
[13:44] <abe__> so,,, how can i fixed ???
[13:45] <ikonia> abe__: well, see if you have openssl installed, and if not install it
[13:45] <cancer> in additional Drivers there is now only 'nvidia binary xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU library'
[13:45] <ikonia> abe__: however I suspect it is installed and you've somehow manually deleted the libraries
[13:45] <cancer> before this i did this all > http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=99513
[13:46] <ikonia> cancer: I believe that was a bad idea
[13:46] <ikonia> cancer: manually dropping nvidia modules into ubuntu can cause problems, more so if they then try to use the hardware drivers tool
[13:46] <AminosAmigos> anyone here from india please ?
[13:46] <ikonia> AminosAmigos: why ?
[13:47] <Helpplz> Guys
[13:47] <Helpplz> and Gals :P
[13:47] <Helpplz> am running CentOS 6 and the GUI wont start
[13:47] <Helpplz> I have installed it
[13:47] <ikonia> Helpplz: try the #centos channel
[13:47] <AminosAmigos> come privet please
[13:48] <ikonia> Helpplz: you're currently in #ubuntu
[13:48] <theadmin> Helpplz: This is #ubuntu, CentOS is not supported here...
[13:48] <Helpplz> thank u
[13:48] <ikonia> AminosAmigos: no, please just ask your question
[13:48] <abe__> ikonia : so,,, how can i get openssl ???
[13:48] <cancer> ikonia: any solution. i'm a newbie
[13:48] <ikonia> abe__: open the package manager and install it
[13:48] <ikonia> cancer: I wouldn't want to pickup trying to solve it to be honest, you've manually installed the modules from nvidia.com (as I read that forum post)
[13:48] <AminosAmigos> how to say where do we know each other in Indian ?
[13:49] <ikonia> AminosAmigos: I'm not from India, I'm asking what your problem is/why you need someone from India ?
[13:49] <cancer> ikonia: is there anything i can do to turn everything back.
[13:49] <ikonia> AminosAmigos: this channel is #ubuntu - it's for ubuntu technical support discussion, so I'm trying to understand why you need someone from India
[13:49] <ikonia> cancer: not without manually undoing what you have done
[13:49] <abe__> ikonia : and how to install it via terminal ??
[13:49] <cancer> ikonia: and i cannot delete file from /usr/src.
[13:50] <AminosAmigos> cuz i have an indian guy talking with me and i don't understand him at all LoL
[13:50] <ikonia> cancer: that won't make any difference
[13:50] <AminosAmigos> i am sorry for wasting your time
[13:50] <ikonia> AminosAmigos: I suggest using google translate,
[13:50] <cancer> ikonia: i don't know to do that manually
[13:50] <ikonia> antonpiatek: not a problem
[13:50] <ikonia> abe__: use apt
[13:50] <sacarlson> AminosAmigos: I guess he's not an american indian?  lol
[13:51] <AminosAmigos> don't think so
[13:51] <abe__> ikonia : can you tell me full list ???
[13:52] <AminosAmigos> 2 minets hold   |
[13:52] <AminosAmigos> whos contry i don't think that's English do you sacarlson
[13:52] <ikonia> AminosAmigos: you may want to take this to another channel, try #defocus for example
[13:52] <jorge> quit
[13:53] <AminosAmigos> ok i am leaving see you :)
[13:53] <johnjacobjinger> wait... indian with a dot or a feather?
[13:54] <millun> hey guys
[13:55] <millun> 11.10, default kernel , HANGS on suspending to ram
[13:55] <Guest9470> hey
[13:56] <josefnpat> What time exactly is ubuntu 12.04 being released? I want to have a party on this event where everyone gets horribly drunk.
[13:56] <arand> josefnpat: No time set, when it's done, that day, also see #ubuntu+1
[13:57] <josefnpat> Bummer, it'll just have to be a untimed event then. Thanks arand
[13:57] <arand> josefnpat: Or have it the next day ;)
[13:57] <Guest95356> are questions about Plasma Desktop ok here?
[13:58] <Pici> josefnpat: The schedule says April 26th. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule
[13:58] <ikonia> Guest95356: sure, you may find #kubuntu more focussed on kde though
[13:58] <Guest95356> tks
[13:59] <josefnpat> arand, Thanks what I was thinking. Pici thanks. It's a thursday, so I can just have it the next day, lol.
[14:02] <mguy> I just put an Intel 82541PI Ethernet card in my Dell T3400 workstation. Any ideas why it doesn't show up in lspci output or should I check somewhere else? http://paste.ubuntu.com/881854/
[14:02] <mguy> The Broadcom networking chip on the motherboard still works fine
[14:10] <lookatmeyou> it seems that ubuntu 10.10 doesn't support code blocks.
[14:12] <lookatmeyou> when I open code::blocks 10.05 in ubuntu 10.10, it always has a display problem.
[14:14] <madoo> i need hellp
[14:15] <susundberg> !ask
[14:15] <madoo> eny one hellp me please
[14:15] <here4thegear> !ask madoo
[14:16] <AdvoWork> hi there, having a problem, brand new lappy, booted it up from cd for ubuntu, picked test live ubuntu, and it did nothing for ages and ages. Had to power it off, now i can't get it to go back to that menu, it just keeps going through the Ubuntu .. . . . screen, any ideas please?
[14:16] <madoo> i have hp pc and i try to open music but my subover not work   insed this pc i have speaker this only workin
[14:17] <us12> !logs
[14:17] <madoo> can you til me haw i can fix thats brupleam
[14:19] <madoo> hello
[14:20] <maltray> Guys, anybody knows how to kill the x-server on Ubuntu?
[14:20] <maltray> and access the terminal without any kind of gui
[14:20] <SachinDey> madoo: do you have speakers connected with your subwoofer? and are those speakers working?
[14:20] <maltray> I've done this command: sudo service lightdm stop, but now it wont let me do anything
[14:21] <madoo> yes but insed the pc
[14:21] <theadmin> maltray: Well switch to a tty which has a getty running, that is, 1-6
[14:21] <theadmin> maltray: Ctrl+Alt+F1 (F2, F3 ... F6)
[14:21] <madoo> with xp  the suboofer is workin
[14:21] <madoo> but with ubuntu no
[14:22] <kurtwp_> can someone provide a link on the steps to remove the global menu in U11:10 -
[14:22] <userubuntu009> Hi...I hope someone is here to help me. I'm booting from a live ubuntu dvd...trying to update-grub. Trying a duel boot system but can't get Ubuntu up and running
[14:22] <theadmin> kurtwp_: Pretty much "sudo apt-get remove appmenu-gtk appmenu-qt"
[14:23] <gvo> madoo check the Sound Preferences/Hardware/Profile
[14:24] <userubuntu009> I get this error when I run "update-grub"  ---/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?).
[14:24] <SachinDey> madoo: o do you have different sound cards?
[14:24] <SachinDey> madoo: do you have different sound cards?
[14:25] <madoo> yes its insed thats pc
[14:25] <userubuntu009> nevermind
[14:25] <madoo> can you till me haw i can fix thats
[14:26] <maltray> theadmin: yeh, that worked, now im getting kind of a log error that i want to disable, it says" phy0: invalid plcp cck rate
[14:26] <Xabster> where does ubuntu save standard wallpapers?
[14:26] <SachinDey> which ubuntu are you using? madoo
[14:26] <theadmin> maltray: Not sure what that can even mean lol
[14:26] <gvo> madoo did you read my suggestion?
[14:26] <madoo> 10.10
[14:26] <StepNjump> hi guys, I'm tryting to install my driver for my ATI card. Found these instructions: http://digitizor.com/2011/05/31/ati-catalyst-11-5-fglrx-8-5-ubuntu-11-04/ Everything works great except when I'm about to run sudo aticonfig --initial -f Looks like the aticonfig command is not recognized. Could anyone help please?
[14:26] <maltray> its so annoying, but oh well :p
[14:26] <madoo> no
[14:26] <madoo> send agin
[14:26] <gvo> scroll back up and look.
[14:26] <theadmin> maltray: If it's on tty1, switch to tty2-6
[14:27] <theadmin> maltray: tty1 is often flooded with kernel nonsense
[14:27] <madoo> haw i can do thats
[14:27] <trilobutt> Hey, I was wondering if someone could help me out. my DVD drive doesn't mount any DVDs (no response, it just does the spinning noise and that's it; blank, burned, and movie DVDs, same thing with all of them); CDs work fine. I've tried manually mounting, no response. Any ideas how to fix it?
[14:27] <gvo> madoo check the Sound Preferences/Hardware/Profile
[14:27] <theadmin> maltray: (and various other programs seem to like to write there too)
[14:27] <madoo> haw
[14:28] <ro0tux> StepNjump, this wiki link may help: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Lucid_Installation_Guide
[14:28] <StepNjump> ÀThank you very much ro0tux
[14:29] <madoo> its analog stereo duplex
[14:29] <gvo> madoo on 10.04 if you click the speaker icon you'll see a sound preferences  tag.  Click  it.
[14:29] <gvo> madoo so try some of the other choices.
[14:29] <madoo> i did
[14:30] <ro0tux> no problem., the command may be:  sudo aticonfig --initial -f
[14:30] <craigbass1976> I did a sudo update-alternatives --config java so that Sun's was the default, but my java app acts like it does when openjdk is the default.  It won't print, and this only happens when I accidentally install openjdk.
[14:30] <gvo> madoo I can't help if that doesn't work.
[14:30] <SachinDey> madoo: also check the output tab
[14:31] <gvo> madoo run alsamixer
[14:32] <madoo> i did  i have 3  one of them cut off the suond
[14:32] <madoo> i did but noting happend
[14:32] <madoo> can you hellp me
[14:32] <madoo> haw
[14:32] <FloodBot1> madoo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:33] <gvo> type alsamixer on a terminal window
[14:33] <craigbass1976> what's the best vnc server to install?
[14:33] <gvo> tight vnc works well
[14:33] <madoo> till me haw and what i do and i will do
[14:33] <gvo> madoo type alsamixer on a terminal window
[14:34] <nishttal2> does anyone here have a recommendation for a good incremental backup solution?
[14:34] <madoo> what i can typ
[14:35] <llutz> nishttal2: rsnapshot
[14:35] <nishttal2> timevault looks promising but hasnt been updated for a while
[14:35] <gvo> madoo F1 for help
[14:36] <madoo> what i can typ in tirmnal
[14:36] <gvo> madoo alsamixer
[14:37] <nishttal2> llutz, rsnapshot can keep track of file moves, i mean not duplicate a file that was simply moved to a different folder
[14:37] <madoo> line have no color
[14:37] <madoo> with mic
[14:38] <gvo> madoo F1
[14:38] <madoo> but all its have red and gren and wight
[14:38] <madoo> i did
[14:38] <madoo> after
[14:38] <craigbass1976> gvo, how do I start vnc so that I can see what's already on the screen on the remote box?
[14:39] <craigbass1976> gvo, display :0 I guess
[14:39] <gvo> craigbass1976: I don't know offhand.
[14:39] <compdoc> craigbass1976, use vino, which is built in - you just need to enable it
[14:39] <gvo> craigbass1976: I know it can be done, but I've never had opportunity to do so.
[14:40] <gvo> madoo OK type F6 and select a card then F5
[14:40] <cveazey> Has anyone had success printing coupons online using Ubuntu? I have the User Agent switcher, so I can see the sites, but I have not been able to get the coupon printers running right.
[14:41] <madoo> i did but noting happend
[14:41] <gvo> madoo what is your woofer plugged into?  OK how many options in F6?
[14:41] <cveazey> I installed one using wine, but it doesn't seem to be working.
[14:42] <madoo> i did but no sound
[14:42] <madoo> line  and mic  its have n color
[14:43] <craigbass1976> compdoc, does vino only work with GNOME?
[14:43] <gvo> madoo how many options in F6
[14:43] <tom3> Hello! I'm trying to play an ogg file using ubuntu 10.10/amd64, but can't get it to work. This is my problem: http://pastebin.com/c4ES1Rki Could you please give me a hint?
[14:43] <tom3> I'm not sure what other plugins to install, gst-inspect shows http://pastebin.com/0uXsGLzD
[14:43] <madoo> just one
[14:43] <jimmy51_> what happens if you are logged in as root and use 'sudo'?
[14:43] <gvo> madoo default only?
[14:44] <madoo> hda ati sb
[14:44] <auronandace> !noroot | jimmy51_
[14:44] <jimmy51_> auronandace: hehe, thanks.  this is hypothetical.
[14:44] <gvo> madoo you should have default and one other at a mininum.
[14:44] <madoo> and enter device name
[14:45] <gvo> madoo strange hardware.
[14:45] <auronandace> jimmy51_: i don't think it would do anything since root is the superuser
[14:45] <gvo> madoo after pressing F5 you only have two controls?
[14:45] <jimmy51_> auronandace: seems like it would be like trying to magnetize a magnet.
[14:45] <madoo> no just one
[14:46] <gvo> madoo Mike?
[14:46] <madoo> no mic no line
[14:46] <gvo> madoo what's the label on the one control?
[14:47] <madoo> no label in this 2
[14:47] <madoo> but all its have color
[14:48] <madoo>  Card: HDA ATI SB                                     F1:  Help               │
[14:48] <madoo> │ Chip: Realtek ALC260                                 F2:  System information │
[14:48] <madoo> │ View: F3: Playback  F4: Capture  F5:[All]            F6:  Select sound card  │
[14:48] <madoo> │ Item: Capture [dB gain: 35.00, 35.00]
[14:48] <gvo> madoo ESC to get out of the mixer.
[14:48] <FloodBot1> madoo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:48] <gvo> madoo don't do that
[14:49] <madoo> okey
[14:49] <madoo> dont do what
[14:49] <gvo> flood
[14:49] <madoo> sorry
[14:50] <francesco_> ciao
[14:50] <francesco_> !list
[14:50] <madoo> analog stereo input is not workin
[14:51] <bufalo1973>  /msg ubottu !alis
[14:51] <gvo> madoo OK I suspect that the os doesn't support your card or you need to load other modules or something isn't configured right and I'm not able to help you with any of that.
[14:52] <madoo> thankiss
[14:53] <justalek> anybody?
[14:56] <kame> hi
[14:56] <proxx8187> hi
[14:57] <kame> I want to read japanese news feeds in evolution. but some of the characters are old chinese characters. I had the same problem before in opera. but I forget how I solved this :/
[14:57] <justalek> I have problem with dual boot, anyone can hel?
[14:57] <Bunie> Hey guys! x86 or x64?
[14:58] <ikonia> Bunie: up to you
[14:58] <ikonia> justalek: you need to ask a question
[14:58] <qhartman> justalek, what's going wrong?
[14:58] <bdi> Why is it a good idea to do ./configure --prefix=/usr/local when compiling a lib? lets say i am compiling a lib which other programs coming from the repo make use of...is it then still a good idea?
[14:58] <proxx8187> Bunie: depends on your hardware
[14:59] <ikonia> bdi: it is a bad idea in general to put software form the repos linking against non-repo managed libraries
[14:59] <Bunie> proxx8187: I worry about things like, does x64 use more ram? what about finding drivers?
[14:59] <ikonia> bdi: there should be very few reasons why you'd need to manually build a lib, and even fewer where you want repo software to use that lib
[14:59] <qhartman> bdi: It's just goo hygiene to keep stuff that is not under package management separate
[14:59] <ikonia> qhartman: there is a lot more to it than just "being clean"
[14:59] <proxx8187> Bunie: x64 can use all ram , 86 cant, limited
[14:59] <bdi> qhartman: what i need is not in the repo
[15:00] <proxx8187> bunie : i run everything on x64
[15:00] <justalek> ok, i have windows and ubuntu 11.10. On boot i see a grub splash screen, and windows7 loader, but when i choose windows from drop down menu it cannot boot
[15:00] <ikonia> bdi: what are you looking for
[15:00] <bdi> ikonia: e.g. gphoto is in the repo, but it uses a buggy version of libgphoto, so i want to upgrade just libgphoto
[15:00] <qhartman> ikonia, yes, there is
[15:00] <ikonia> bdi: does anything else depend on that library from the repo ?
[15:01] <bdi> ikonia: that i do not know...i suspect maybe this fshot i think its called
[15:01] <vasilevich> hello is anyone free to help me set up a network interface?
[15:01] <Bunie> i guess i dont rlly see a reason to go x64. this PC is physically limited to 2GB of ram lolz.
[15:01] <proxx8187> justalek: try run grub-mkconfig again
[15:01] <ikonia> bdi: that is something you %101 need to know before you cosider putting it in a place where the other library is stored.
[15:01] <kame> can somebody help me?
[15:01] <proxx8187> justa ask
[15:02] <ikonia> bdi: also keep in mind, you'll probably need to re-compile the actual package to link against that library, rather than just dump the library in place
[15:02] <bdi> ikonia: i need to remote control my canon d80 camera via my ubuntu PC, which is done via gphoto....but this works very poorly, so i have to upgrade libgphoto
[15:02] <auronandace> Bunie: you can't go 64bit if your processor doesn't support it anyway
[15:02] <Bunie> auronandace: It does
[15:02] <kame> i asked before and now again .... I want to read japanese news feeds in evolution. but some of the characters are old chinese characters. I had the same problem before in opera. but I forget how I solved this :/
[15:02] <Bunie> NO idea why a board with a 2GB limit supports x64
[15:02] <ikonia> bdi: I understand what you are saying, that's why I'm trying to explain how you will need to manage it
[15:02] <proxx8187> kame: no idea about japanse :P
[15:02] <ikonia> Bunie: because you don't need 4gb of ram to use 64bit
[15:02] <auronandace> Bunie: ah, good, i've used 64bit for years, its great
[15:02] <Bunie> ikonia: But what will i get for using it?
[15:03] <justalek> proxx8187: then what?
[15:03] <bdi> ikonia: yeah...hmm would it be possible to download libgphoto and gphoto and put it in their own kindof, sandbox
[15:03] <Bunie> ikonia: I know finding x64 drivers on Windows can be a struggle. the same is true for ubuntu yes?
[15:03] <proxx8187> justalek: try and reboot, see if that works
[15:03] <ikonia> Bunie: same thing as a 32bit host
[15:03] <ikonia> Bunie: no,
[15:03] <vasilevich> i need help configuriing my network interface like this: I have three network adapters: WLAN0 ETH0 ETH1  i would like to recieve internet from WLAN0 and share it to either ETH0/ETH1
[15:03] <proxx8187> bunie: thats typical windows mindset, forget about that
[15:03] <Bunie> i know open source drivers can be compiled for both.
[15:03] <Bunie> but proprietary?
[15:03] <ikonia> Bunie: the kernel that runs for 32bit, is the same as 64bit
[15:03] <ikonia> Bunie: so anything that is native support to the kernel, in 32bit will be native to 64bit
[15:03] <bdi> ikonia: because yeah i would probably need to recompile programs using libgphoto if i upgraded that
[15:04] <Bunie> so 32-bit drivers work on x64 ubuntu?
[15:04] <ikonia> Bunie: most vendors, nvidia/ati for example provide 64bit binary packages, but ubuntu packages them up for you so you don't have to do a thing
[15:04] <bdi> ikonia: so it would be really cool if i could somehow keep those separate from the system
[15:04] <Bunie> i suppose if it fails me i can just reinstall with x86
[15:04] <Bunie> nothin to lose :D
[15:05] <Bunie> i know "theres all kinds of programs out there", but does Ubuntu work well with the RDP protocol?
[15:05] <auronandace> Bunie: from a user perspective you likely won't notice any difference
[15:05] <ikonia> bdi: if you %100 have to build your own software, I'd see this as an isolated/specific case, so I'd built it in /opt or /usr/local to keep it totally seperate from the ubuntu packages
[15:05] <ikonia> Bunie: no more/less than any other linux
[15:05] <proxx8187> Bunie: only better performance
[15:06] <Bunie> i want compatability. i dont wanna be told "this is for x64, sorry", but i worry about x86 programs not being compatible with x64, either.
[15:06] <bdi> ikonia: right, so i would do ./configure --prefix=/opt when compiling both libgphoto and gphoto?
[15:06] <auronandace> Bunie: maybe if you provide examples we can help
[15:06] <proxx8187> Bunie: linux doesnt work that way, you can run 32 bit stuff on 64 install
[15:06] <Bunie> Also, I'm a bit of a gamer. Hows Nvidia doing? I heard they started compiling linux drivers again?
[15:06] <ikonia> bdi: at a high level "yes"
[15:07] <bahar_> hi
[15:07] <ikonia> Bunie: gaming on linux is not something I'd recommend
[15:07] <Bunie> ikonia: Last question. On the download page, 32-bit is "Recommended". If 64-bit is no more complex. then why is that? for people who arent sure if theyre x64 compatible?
[15:07] <bahar_> why is ubuntuuusers.de down
[15:07] <ikonia> Bunie: nvidia never stopped "offering" drivers, however manually installing them is a bad idea, ubuntu packages up supported drivers for you
[15:07] <ikonia> bahar_: ask the website maintainer,
[15:08] <ikonia> Bunie: just poor wording in my opinion
[15:08] <Bunie> okay im going to try this "side-by-side" install thing. if it ruins my windows, is there a command to make ubuntu cry with me?
[15:09] <Bunie> lols kidding. wish me luck though :D
[15:09] <regi> oi
[15:09] <ikonia> I don't think you should do that
[15:09] <bdi> ikonia: at a high level?
[15:09] <Bunie> why not?
[15:09] <imbezol> Bunie: ubuntu won't be sad :)
[15:09] <ikonia> Bunie: sideby side or "wubi" is not a great option in my experience/opinion
[15:09] <vasilevich> 	i need help configuriing my network interface like this: I have three network adapters: WLAN0 ETH0 ETH1 i would like to recieve internet from WLAN0 and share it to ETH0 or ETH1 can someone please give me the right configuration for /etc/network/interfaces
[15:09] <Bunie> not wubi
[15:09] <compdoc> Bunie, back it up first
[15:09] <Bunie> im told the installer can shrink my windows partition
[15:09] <Bunie> compdoc: Too lazy.
[15:09] <ikonia> bdi: well, it's more than just "--prefix=/opt" but that's the bottom line of it, you install everything to /opt or /usr/local/ or where ever
[15:09] <ikonia> Bunie: dual boot will be fine
[15:10] <bahar_> know anybody how  i can protect myself against porn
[15:10] <Bunie> i worry about shrinking partitions
[15:10] <Bunie> =/
[15:10] <auronandace> Bunie: no backups mean you don't consider your data important, hope you know what you are doing
[15:10] <ikonia> bahar_: don't open websites that you don't trust
[15:10] <nibbler_> bahar_, i guess the way to go would be a filter like for kids, they should have blacklists
[15:10] <Bunie> i have all my data sort of backed up =D
[15:10] <ikonia> bahar_: there are numerous porn blacklists available on the internet, you can use them to block sites with many technologies
[15:10] <bdi> ikonia: hmm ok so how do i do that
[15:11] <proxx8187> vasilevich: you probably have to look into iptables for that, lower level bridging is often not possible due to crappy firmware
[15:12] <proxx8187> vasilevich: or take a look at brctl which might be able to help you .... again firmware for wifi is often poor.
[15:12] <regi> alguem pode me achar
[15:13] <ikonia> bdi: do what ?
[15:15] <bdi> ikonia: i mean...install everything to /opt
[15:15] <ikonia> bdi: you'll need to do some research, you've got the concept right with --prefix=/opt
[15:15] <bdi> ikonia: do i have to look through all files and check where they will be copied to?
[15:15] <ikonia> bdi: you'll see that when you do "make install"
[15:15] <gvo> ikonia a quote from Lorem Ipsum?
[15:16] <ikonia> gvo: what ?
[15:16] <bdi> ikonia: right...so adapt the make-file ?
[15:16] <gvo> answer to regi statement ;)
[15:16] <bdi> Makefile
[15:16] <ikonia> bdi: no, the make file will be created when you configure the build process
[15:17] <Bunie_> i know this is probably a "duh" question but, Linux can compile windows programs yes?
[15:17] <proxx8187> Bunie_: no
[15:17] <gvo> Bunie_: Not really
[15:17] <Bunie_> really? :S
[15:18] <proxx8187> Bunie_: libraries must be native, if course
[15:18] <ikonia> Bunie_: no
[15:18] <auronandace> Bunie_: what windows programs do you have the source to? :)
[15:18] <proxx8187> lol
[15:18] <Bunie_> Server emulators n such
[15:18] <remoteCTRL> why the fuck does ununtu simply unsinstall some of my apps without any warning on OS upgrade, are you guys outa your minds???
[15:18] <ikonia> Bunie_: most windows programs are not open source
[15:18] <bdi> ikonia: hmm ok...so i dont see what more i can do that change PREFIX = /opt
[15:18] <stephanb> hi, i got xubuntu 11.10 installed, is there a way to install unity as a second DE, without reinstalling? like is there a metapackage for the unity-desktop
[15:18] <Bunie_> ikonia: I feel thats an untrue statement :P
[15:18] <ikonia> Bunie_: any that are, will depend on microsoft libraries/tools that do not exist on windows
[15:18] <ikonia> Bunie_: ok - well, it's not but if you "feel it's untrue" why are asking if it's possible
[15:19] <Bunie_> that parts prolly true tho. But its not rlly a "windows program" as it can be compiled for linux too
[15:19] <ikonia> bdi: it's silly things, like make sure the linker is looking in the right place
[15:19] <proxx8187> bored
[15:19] <ikonia> Bunie_: give me an example of what youwant to run
[15:19] <Bunie_> Random programs, Game servers, etc.
[15:20] <ikonia> Bunie_: give me an example
[15:20] <Bunie_> Lolz I cant think of any. like, maybe a world of warcraft server?
[15:20] <ikonia> Bunie_: ok, is there a Linux version of that ?
[15:20] <Bunie_> uses the same source for both linux and windows compiles, using a program called cmake
[15:20] <Bunie_> so i know it can be built for linux
[15:20] <Bunie_> can linux build the windows version?
[15:21] <proxx8187> why are you asking such questions when you know the answer... pfff
[15:21] <ikonia> Bunie_: I've just looked at it, there is a linux version and a microsoft version
[15:21] <ikonia> Bunie_: they are just in the same source tar ball
[15:21] <Bunie_> i dunno im just making conversation =x ill just accept the answer as no for now
[15:21] <ikonia> Bunie_: and no, the linux version cannot build the microsoft platform
[15:22] <ikonia> Bunie_: the answer is "no"
[15:22] <Bunie_> Last Resort: Virtual Box <3
[15:22] <ikonia> Bunie_: if you run Windows in virtual box, sure you can build on that guest
[15:22] <Bunie_> Man
[15:22] <Bunie_> Ubuntu knows how to force you to leech their download
[15:22] <Bunie_> downloading the ISO at 10Kbps
[15:23] <proxx8187> torrent...................
[15:23] <auronandace> !torrents | Bunie_
[15:23] <Bunie_> ill just use a download manager >3>
[15:23] <Bunie_> nvm its back up now :3
[15:23] <Bunie_> i would use a torrent but im at like 85%
[15:23] <Bunie_> cant stop now Lols
[15:23] <Bunie_> woo, its maxing out my bandwith now. all is well in bunie land
[15:25] <Middle> Hello! I'm bored so I came here to help some newbies :)
[15:27] <Middle> Awfully quiet in here...
[15:27] <mydogsnameisrudy> yep
[15:27] <bahar_> can here anyone tell me a programm to block porn in ubuntu
[15:27] <Bunie> lol?
[15:28] <Middle> For your kids?
[15:28] <ikonia> bahar_: as I've told you 3 times
[15:28] <auronandace> !info nanny | bahar_
[15:28] <Middle> ^
[15:28] <cesarstafe> hi people, I am installing an Ubunty 10.04.4 server and for my surprise there is not a way to install 'sun-java6-jre'
[15:28] <ikonia> bahar_: you can download public blacklists from the internet, you can then use multiple applications such as squid for example, or just your /etc/hosts file to use them
[15:28] <Middle> cesarstafe: I believe that is proprietry so you need to download it from sun directly
[15:29] <chson> cesarstafe: I believe there is a repo you can to get sun-java6 apt-getable
[15:29] <Bunie> i want to know about how ubuntu updates.
[15:29] <Bunie> ive been told different things about it
[15:29] <auronandace> !partner | cesarstafe
[15:29] <bahar_> thanks to all for the answers
[15:29] <cesarstafe> Middle: mmm.. some guys suggest to add a new repo
[15:29] <Middle> chson: Probably the sun repo (Kinda like for ffcx 8 you need the mozilla repo)
[15:29] <Bunie> if i install say Ubuntu 11.10 and then 12.04 comes out
[15:29] <Bunie> what do i do
[15:30] <cesarstafe> but i did it without luck
[15:30] <Bunie> apt-get upgrade?
[15:30] <cesarstafe> I did
[15:30] <auronandace> Bunie: you can upgrade when it comes out
[15:30] <Middle> Think so
[15:30] <ikonia> !upgrade > Bunie
[15:30] <ikonia> Bunie: well documented in the link ubottu just pm'd you
[15:30] <Middle> Bunie: It will give you an option to upgrade when a new version is dettected
[15:30] <chson> Middle: probably.. whatever it is it was like the first hit on google.
[15:30] <ikonia> Middle: no it won't as it's an LTS release
[15:31] <cesarstafe> I added a report with that ... add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ lucid partner"
[15:31] <Bunie> so just apt-get upgrade? D: Just say yes or no ._. lolz
[15:31] <Middle> ikonia: touche
[15:31] <auronandace> Bunie: apt-get upgrade installs updates for your current version, it will not upgrade you to the next version
[15:31] <Bunie> oh
[15:31] <Bunie> k
[15:31] <Bunie> ill check the document then
[15:31] <Bunie> thanks :D
[15:31] <proxx8187> omg spoonfeeding detected
[15:31] <FloodBot1> Bunie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:31] <cesarstafe> and after that doesn't exist sun-java6-jdk
[15:31] <auronandace> Bunie: please stop saying lol
[15:31] <Middle> Any idea what ubottu is written in?
[15:32] <Bunie> auronandace: Habbit, my apologies ^^
[15:32] <ikonia> Middle: many language
[15:32] <technel> When I alt+tab, Unity restarts. Sometimes it fails and window title bars disappear, with the keyboard unusable. There are sporadic references to this on Google with no solutions. What do I do?!
[15:32] <ikonia> Middle: ooh, sorry ubottu
[15:32] <ska> How do I do an update, but keep the current kernel? (it wants to install a new kernel-image).
[15:32] <ikonia> Middle: python
[15:32] <Bunie> technel: Sounds like a driver issue, but im the noob in the room.
[15:32] <ikonia> ska: package pinning
[15:32] <auronandace> technel: compiz is rather buggy
[15:32] <Middle> cesarstafe: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk-7u3-download-1501626.html
[15:32] <technel> Bunie: I'm using the open-source Radeon driver, which is what the Ubuntu wiki recommends for my card (it's listed on the supported cards).
[15:33] <auronandace> technel: compiz --replace
[15:33] <ikonia> technel: doens't mean it's "good", it recommends the "best" option not all singing all working option
[15:33] <cesarstafe> I added a repository with that ... add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ lucid partner"
[15:33] <cesarstafe> Middle: ok, I will see how to download it to my server
[15:33] <Middle> technel: I suggest maybe trying hte proprietry driver, it worked better for me than the community one, I had a 5870
[15:34] <Middle> cesarstafe: wget <link to the versiojn you want>
[15:34] <ikonia> cesarstafe: sudo apt-get update - the software from that repo are now visible to you
[15:34] <Bunie> ikonia: im about to reboot to install ubuntu. If my wireless card doesnt work, what do i do? come back here and cry to you? :3
[15:34] <ikonia> Bunie: try to fix it with many of the support resources available
[15:34] <Bunie> but ill be offline.
[15:34] <technel> auronandace: A cursory web search shows if I remove Compiz, Unity goes too... is that correct?
[15:34] <cesarstafe> ikonia: I did an apt get update
[15:34] <proxx8187> bunie: no go google
[15:35] <ikonia> Bunie: then why ask a silly question ?
[15:35] <auronandace> Bunie: use the ethernet cable
[15:35] <cesarstafe> but it didn't bring me the package
[15:35] <Middle> Bunie: If it doesn't work straight away, it probably will work fine, then get an ethernet cable and ocme back
[15:35] <Toph2> auronandace,,, i'm having issues with 11.01. After a day of service my computer slows down almost to hanging ans compiz is taking up a lot of the resources,, can I run without compiz and if so, how?
[15:35] <Bunie> thats actually a good idea, Auron.
[15:35] <technel> Middle: Hmm, okay, I will give it a go (I have a 6850)
[15:35] <ikonia> cesarstafe: it does, if you do apt-get update it will update your repo, you can now use the package manager to search for the software you want
[15:35] <auronandace> technel: unity uses compiz as its window manager, so i guess its true
[15:35] <Middle> technel: Yeah the proprietry drivers for ATI are still shit but ffor high end cars I think they are a bit better
[15:35] <ikonia> Middle: no need for that language
[15:36] <cesarstafe> ikonia: ok, I will try again
[15:36] <Middle> ikonia: Sorry, we are all adults
[15:36] <ikonia> Middle: no, we are not, all ages/races/genders in here
[15:36] <auronandace> Toph2: i use xfce, i don't use unity or compiz
[15:36] <proxx8187> adult... genders.... lol women arnt adults :P
[15:36] <auronandace> Toph2: so yes, you can run ubuntu without all the fancy effects
[15:37] <Toph2> auronandace,,, i should try that,, see if it makes a difference
[15:37] <Toph2> i don't need the fancy
[15:37] <Middle> ikonia: I won't swear again but, I stil se it as a ridiculous rule. If I was being offensive to a user of the channel then yes, but that was just a casual use of the language that was clearly more descriptive than offensive
[15:37] <auronandace> Toph2: unity also has a non-compiz version using qt, unity2d
[15:37] <cesarstafe> ikonia: nope, after an apt-get update I have searched sun-java6-jdk and nothing appears
[15:37] <Toph2> auronandace,,, thanks
[15:37] <Middle> Toph2: You could also try a different Desktop Environment
[15:37] <auronandace> Toph2: should be available in the login screen
[15:38] <Middle> cesarstafe: You need to download the version you want from the link I sent you
[15:38] <ikonia> cesarstafe: do you know if it's in that repo ?
[15:38] <ikonia> !info sun-java6-jdk
[15:38] <ikonia> so it's totally been removed
[15:38] <Middle> cesarstafe: Because oracle produces it, its not open source
[15:39] <Middle> cesarstafe: So go and download it from orcales website
[15:39] <cesarstafe> Middle: yes, I know... Oracle is the responsible for this
[15:39] <ska> How can I tell system to pick a particular kernel for boot? Edit grub.cfg? or is there a smoother way?
[15:40] <cesarstafe> ikonia: I am not the only one that doesn't have goog luck with that
[15:40] <cesarstafe> https://twitter.com/#!/sylvaingarcia/statuses/174949118345609216
[15:40] <gvo> ska grub or grub2?
[15:40] <ikonia> cesarstafe: probably because it's been "removed"
[15:40] <cesarstafe> yes, I hate that
[15:41] <ska> gvo:  1.98-1ubuntu13 grub
[15:41] <ikonia> ska: grub2
[15:41] <Middle> Anyone else dislike grub2, I found grub so easy to edit etc...
[15:41] <ska> ikonia: grub2 and ?
[15:42] <Middle> ska: You are using grub2 most likely
[15:42] <ikonia> Middle: it's not a poll channel, it's a support channel
[15:42] <ikonia> !grub2 > ska
[15:42] <ikonia> ska: ubottu's just pm'd you a link that explains how to change grub2 config
[15:42] <Middle> ikonia: Just light conversation :P
[15:42] <Fraz> hi
[15:42] <ikonia> Middle: it's not a chat channel
[15:43] <Fraz> im new to ununtu/linux and im trying to setup a script to run when i boot
[15:43] <chmouel> anybody knows why I could not find lxcguest on precise?
[15:43] <Guest86201> hi everyone, finally get in here
[15:43] <Fraz> using xintrc
[15:43] <auronandace> chmouel: 12.04 support in #ubuntu+1 until it is released please
[15:43] <Middle> Fraz: You can probably set up a startup script from the menu's or using rc.d
[15:44] <sacarlson> Fraz: another option is cron event with @reboot
[15:44] <auronandace> !upstart | Fraz
[15:44] <Middle> Fraz: there are a lot of ways, easiest is probably just to do it through a menu item (If you are using desktop edition)
[15:44] <sunropid> Hello I formatted a partition by mistake (ext3 to ext4), and i have not touched it since then. how can i recover it?
[15:44] <chmouel> auronandace: cheers
[15:44] <Bunie> Time to reboot
[15:44] <Bunie> wish me luck :D
[15:44] <Bunie> bye guys.
[15:45] <Middle> Bunie: Bye
[15:45] <Fraz> yes im using a desktop edition
[15:45] <auronandace> Bunie: don't need luck, have fun
[15:45] <Bunie> Lol
[15:45] <Middle> ^
[15:45] <Bunie> ONE MORE THING
[15:45] <Bunie> Ubuntu has Truecrypt yes?
[15:45] <Middle> It is available
[15:45] <Bunie> i just remembered all my drives r encrypted >3>
[15:45] <Middle> I can't say if it is inluceded by default
[15:45] <ikonia> Bunie: yes, but I'd strongly advice against using it unless you really have to
[15:45] <gvo> didn't Fraz mention xinitrc?  That's for affecting X behavior.
[15:45] <ikonia> yes, it has truecrypt
[15:45] <Bunie> thats going to make this difficult isnt it XD
[15:45] <Middle> gvo: well spotted
[15:45] <Bunie> my system drive is encrypted
[15:46] <ska> I'm simply going to edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg and move MY kernel entry to the top position.
[15:46] <Bunie> going to try to shrink it
[15:46] <Fraz> yes i want to change the mouse sensitivity when i boot up
[15:46] <ska> I see no other obvious way.
[15:46] <ikonia> ska: it won't work
[15:46] <Bunie> prolly ruin my drive. :3 bye guys
[15:46] <gvo> ska /etc/default/grub
[15:46] <Middle> Fraz: You may want to look at Xorg.conf
[15:46] <gvo> That's the file you need to change.
[15:46] <auronandace> ska: there is also /etc/default/grub that you can alter
[15:46] <ikonia> ska: the next update you get, it will override it
[15:46] <Middle> Fraz: Can't you do that from the preferences menu thogh?
[15:47] <proxx8187> finally hes gone
[15:47] <ska> ok..
[15:47] <Fraz> Middle, yeah but its on the lowest setting
[15:47] <Fraz> the sliders are way down at the bottom
[15:47] <Middle> Can't you change it?
[15:47] <Middle> Fraz: So slide them up?
[15:47] <Fraz> i want to make it less sensitive:P
[15:47] <Middle> Oh
[15:47] <ska> gvo: So I edit /etc/default/grub and select the appropriate number for booti?
[15:48] <Fraz> ive already done it in the terminal but i want to do it auto when i boot
[15:48] <Middle> Okay urm not sure where Xorg.conf is on Ubuntu but in that file you should be able to edit your X settings
[15:48] <Fraz> ok cool thanks
[15:48] <Fraz> ill take a look
[15:48] <proxx8187> xorg.conf is not used by default, at least not anymore.
[15:48] <auronandace> Middle: xorg.conf isn't used by default anymore
[15:48] <Middle> Fraz: /etc/X11/Xorg.conf on FreeBSD, but that may not be of help. And what command did you do to lower the sensitivity?
[15:48] <gvo> ska edit /etc/default/grub and then run sudo update-grub
[15:49] <Fraz> hm
[15:49] <Middle> auronandace: Ah okay scrap that
[15:49] <Middle> Fraz: Scrap Xorg.conf
[15:49] <Fraz> yeah i saw
[15:49] <ezoe> hi. is casper-rw persistent file required for booting from USB flash drive? Ubuntu failed to boot.
[15:49] <auronandace> Middle: it does depend on your driver though, i think nvidia sticks with a xorg.conf
[15:49] <ska> gvo: I see in the docs where it allows you to specify the menuentry title as well.
[15:50] <gvo> Sure
[15:50] <Fraz> well i have an nvidia card. what does that mean? xorg.conf is used?
[15:50] <compdoc> Im upgrading a server from 11.04 to 11.10 - wish me luck!
[15:50] <gvo> Good luck.
[15:51] <gvo> Don't be surprise if it doesn't work.
[15:51] <gvo> surprised.
[15:51] <auronandace> Fraz: if you use the nvidia (not nouveau) driver then most likely yes
[15:51] <Middle> Fraz: I think it will be easier for you to just add the command you want to run to a startup location, I'm just not entirely sure what Ubuntu uses nowadays
[15:52] <sacarlson> Fraz: I think the xorg.conf just overrides the default settings as nvidea does when they force there driver to be used instead of default
[15:52] <auronandace> Fraz: quickest way is to just check in /etc/X11/
[15:52] <Middle> Does Ubuntu use rc.d and init for startup stuff?
[15:52] <auronandace> !upstart | Middle
[15:52] <Middle> Cheers
[15:53] <ska> ikonia, gvo, ikonia, auronandace: TY TY TY
[15:53] <auronandace> ska: no worries :)
[15:53] <gvo> ska np
[15:53] <Fraz> auronandace, what am i checking for though lol
[15:53] <auronandace> Middle: i have no experience with upstart (i prefer the archlinux rc.conf way myself)
[15:54] <Middle> auronandace: Ah rc.conf that was what I was thinking of
[15:54] <Middle> auronandace: FreeBSD uses that too :)
[15:54] <Middle> Fraz: You are looking for a file called Xorg.conf
[15:54] <sun_devil> My ubuntu email client will not let me send email using google account?
[15:54] <gvo> Anyone know the reasoning for upstart?  Sys V init has been around well almost forever and works well,.
[15:54] <Middle> Fraz: It will be in /etc/X11/ IF it exists
[15:54] <Fraz> oh
[15:54] <Fraz> yeah its there
[15:55] <gvo> Middle: that's with a small letter x
[15:55] <Middle> Fraz: Urm then if you want to try editing it to slow your mouse down then you will need to google modifying xorg.conf to reduce mouse sensitivity
[15:55] <Fraz> Section "Device"
[15:55] <Fraz> 	Identifier	"Default Device"
[15:55] <Fraz> 	Option	"NoLogo"	"True"
[15:55] <Fraz> EndSection
[15:55] <gvo> Fraz it's probably fairly generic.
[15:55] <FloodBot1> Fraz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:55] <Middle> gvo: thanks
[15:55] <Fraz> thats in that file
[15:55] <Fraz> sorry
[15:56] <auronandace> gvo: actually it is X11
[15:56] <Middle> Fraz: Seach that file for sensitivity
[15:56] <Fraz> http://pastebin.com/AqGLLiKd << this is all that's in xorg.conf
[15:57] <gvo> auronandace: yes but not Xorg.conf
[15:57] <Middle> Fraz: ah okay
[15:57] <auronandace> gvo: ah, sorry
[15:57] <c3sso> hello
[15:57] <Middle> What was the command to get the sensitivity to how you wanted it?
[15:57] <Middle> howdy
[15:57] <AminosAmigos> Apple iPad 3 Goes On Sale 8.00 AM Friday 16th March
[15:57] <ikonia> AminosAmigos: not interested in this channel
[15:57] <c3sso> uhm, does somebody know: is ist opssible to change the default file open dialog from recently used to last used folder?
[15:57] <auronandace> AminosAmigos: no adverts please
[15:58] <ikonia> AminosAmigos: ubuntu technical support discussion please.
[15:58] <sun_devil> My evolution mail client has unsent messages that it will not send?
[15:58] <Fraz> xinput --set-prop 8 "Device Accel Constant Deceleration" 5
[15:58] <AminosAmigos> ok just sharing the news ;) sorry
[15:58] <Middle> Fraz: okay now can you go to Preferences > Startup? Or somehting of that nature?
[15:58] <ikonia> AminosAmigos: people can read apple.com on their own, thanks
[15:58] <c3sso> the great zeit geist is, I really do not want it in my file open dialog as default.
[15:59] <Middle> I would have alos thought that an Ubuntu IRC channel is quite the opposite of apples target market
[15:59] <Fraz> hm
[15:59] <Fraz> dont think so
[15:59] <Fraz> i have looked for a system startup option
[15:59] <Middle> Fraz: What version are you on?
[15:59] <Fraz> 11:10
[15:59] <Fraz> 11.10
[16:00] <Middle> Fraz: Well 10.10 had an option in Administration > Startup not sure about 11.10... Can't you just Google "Startup programs on ubuntu 11.10"
[16:00] <auronandace> !google
[16:01] <c3sso> it distracts me when when I want to write the address in the address bar, I have to click first before I can write.......
[16:01] <Middle> auronandace: amen to that, google-fu is the most valuable skill to learn.
[16:01] <swcdx> just hit control- l
[16:01] <osse> How can I get the equivalent of the autoscroll feature from Firefox in Chromium?
[16:01] <gvo> swcdx: is that a one or an ell?
[16:01] <auronandace> Middle: i prefer duckduckgo :)
[16:02] <Middle> Fraz:
[16:02] <Fraz> yep?
[16:02] <Middle> Fraz: put the command in a file named "startup.sh"
[16:02] <K1rk|Work> What's the easiest way to resize a partition with ext3 filesystem?  (without gparted, must be cli)
[16:02] <Middle> Fraz: Then make the first line of that file "#!/bin/bash"
[16:02] <Middle> Fraz: Then save it, and copy that file to /etc/xdg/autostart/
[16:03] <proxx8187> and chmod it
[16:03] <Middle> F^
[16:03] <gvo> K1rk|Work: parted
[16:03] <Middle> And test that the script works
[16:03] <Fraz> thats simalar to what i was asking about earlier
[16:03] <Middle> Fraz: About the chmod'ing you need to run "chmod +x startup.sh" before copyoing it
[16:03] <K1rk|Work> gvo: I found parted and I wrote up a script.  It complains at me because there's an ext3 filesystem on the partition...
[16:04] <gvo> I'd guess you have an error in your script.  parted can resize partitions.
[16:05] <Whiskey> echo "deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list <---- How do i do to not insert it if its allredy in sources.list?
[16:05] <K1rk|Work> gvo: It suggests that there are more robust tools, and that it will be removing filesystem resizing support in future releases.
[16:05] <Middle> auronandace: What is duckduckgo?
[16:05] <gvo> OK
[16:05] <auronandace> Middle: a search engine
[16:05] <proxx8187> anonymous search engine
[16:05] <proxx8187> lol
[16:05] <Middle> auronandace: ah lol
[16:05] <gvo> Middle just go to duckduckgo.com
[16:05] <proxx8187> i prefer startpage.com though
[16:05] <waldir> Hi all. How do I connect to a VPN (that was already set up using the graphical network manager) using the command line?
[16:06] <Middle> gvo: I just duckduckgo'd "wquack"
[16:06] <K1rk|Work> gvo:
[16:06] <AminosAmigos> guys you didn't answer osse  :) | How can I get the equivalent of the autoscroll feature from Firefox in Chromium?
[16:06] <gvo> lol
[16:06] <K1rk|Work> gvo: http://gopaste.it/pm22
[16:06] <Middle> Whiskey: Is that command in a script?
[16:06] <Whiskey> yeh
[16:07] <Middle> Whiskey: You could grep the file for the string
[16:07] <sacarlson> Fraz: I see another option used in this forum http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=993073  Basically, go to System - Preferences - Sessions.
[16:07] <sacarlson> On the "Startup Programs" tab, click "Add".
[16:07] <Middle> Whiskey: Then use an if statement
[16:07] <Fraz> should i get any message when chmodding it?
[16:07] <K1rk|Work> gvo: So it seems like parted doesn't want to do it for me...as much as I agree it should work...
[16:07] <Middle> Fraz: no
[16:07] <Fraz> ok i think ive done it then
[16:07] <gvo> K1rk|Work: Hm wasn't aware of that in the mean time this might give you some help http://www.hermann-uwe.de/blog/resizing-ext3-partitions-with-parted
[16:08] <Fraz> i guess i reboot now?
[16:08] <Middle> Did you test the script?
[16:08] <K1rk|Work> gvo it then complains Error: File system has an incompatible feature enabled.  Compatible features are has_journal, dir_index, filetype, sparse_super and large_file.  Use tune2fs
[16:08] <K1rk|Work> or debugfs to remove features.
[16:08] <ZeusCool> Hi, cp -fR dirpath1 dirpath2 doesn't seem to copy files from one place to the other without asking me for confirmation, what am I doing wrong please?
[16:08] <Middle> Fraz: Did you test the script?
[16:08] <gvo> That link will tell you how to disable the journal.
[16:08] <sun_devil> My evolution mail client has unsent messages that it will not send?  The settings do not seem correct
[16:08] <Fraz> no. thats why im wondering if i reboot
[16:08] <K1rk|Work> gvo: Ah I see.
[16:08] <Fraz> so it starts up?
[16:08] <K1rk|Work> Thanks, will try that gvo
[16:09] <bigpapa2011> what's going on everyone
[16:09] <gvo> np
[16:09] <Middle> Fraz: Try running the script and seeing if there is an error message?#
[16:09] <Whiskey> naa
[16:09] <waldir> Does anyone know how to connect a remote machine to a VPN?
[16:09] <bigpapa2011> is there a program i can download to make iso's ? i'm on 11.10
[16:10] <Middle> Fraz: Whiskey I gotta dash, good luck hope you get it solved!
[16:10] <auronandace> !burn | bigpapa2011
[16:11] <Fraz> cant copy the file to etc/xdg/autostart
[16:11] <Fraz> permission denied
[16:11] <bigpapa2011> thanks i'm new to this and lost
[16:11] <Fraz> thanks middle
[16:11] <bigpapa2011> been a while since i had to use command's
[16:11] <bigpapa2011> LOL
[16:11] <gvo> waldir: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH_VPN
[16:11] <Whiskey> ??
[16:12] <harry__> are there any books on ubuntu internal  design?
[16:12] <gvo> waldir it's not the easiest thing you'll ever do.
[16:12] <auronandace> bigpapa2011: i use xfce so i use xfburn for making/burning iso
[16:12] <waldir> gvo:  thanks for the pointer! Google wasn't helping me much :(
[16:12] <sacarlson> bigpapa2011: you want to make an iso with what in it?  custom boot?  copy of a cd/dvd?....
[16:12] <gvo> np
[16:12] <bigpapa2011> custom boot from my old vista dvd
[16:13] <waldir> gvo: but I already have the VPN set up, I just want to connect to it
[16:13] <bigpapa2011> my gf's computer crashed and she needs the boot setup
[16:13] <waldir> gvo mind if I pvt you?
[16:13] <K1rk|Work> gvo: Removing journal didn't fix the error, how can I get a list of enabled features on my fs?
[16:14] <gvo> K1rk|Work:  try mount
[16:14] <gvo> waldir go ahead.
[16:15] <saschxd> good evening
[16:15] <Fraz> i cant find system>prefersences>sessions
[16:15] <Fraz> where would i find the equivalent in 11.10
[16:15] <Guest86201> hi guys, has anyone tried wubi with 11.10 here?
[16:16] <bigpapa2011> is acetoneISO any good?
[16:16] <sacarlson> bigpapa2011: what's the custom part?  what is the source from witch it is now?
[16:16] <bigpapa2011> Cd to Iso
[16:17] <bigpapa2011> she has a mini laptop no cd'r
[16:17] <luxius> hello
[16:17] <Guest86201> wubi always download ISO again. If I disconnect internet, there would be an warning...
[16:18] <luxius> I am having trouble logging on X11. When I type in my password it starts loading up, blanks out and comes back to the logon screen. What could be wrong? (I tried switching window manager).
[16:18] <saschxd> how can i add an alias to my username ? as in login with a different username for the same account ?
[16:18] <auronandace> Guest86201: i don't think many people here use wubi (its more of a try-before-you-dive-in thing)
[16:19] <Guest86201> luxius, thats cool, u can just use command line, there are also ways of using applications under command line mode
[16:19] <sacarlson> bigpapa2011: this might work http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/2769/ubuntu_how_to_create_iso_image_from_cd_dvd/
[16:19] <auronandace> !pm | Guest86201
[16:19] <luxius> Guest86201, please help me with my problem or leave your remarks for someone who cares about your appreciation of CLI. I know how to use CLI, but I would like X11 to work.
[16:20] <ikonia> luxius: a common cause of that is a full/non-writeable home directory
[16:20] <luxius> ikonia, that could be it ...
[16:20] <luxius> not that I know why it would have happened
[16:21] <ikonia> luxius: it's not the only cause, but the common cause
[16:21] <ikonia> luxius: when you login certain files are touched/updated, if there is no space/your user can't write, it can't start the desktop to bombs you out to the login screen
[16:22] <luxius> ikonia, you're saying disk might be full?
[16:22] <ikonia> luxius: or the partition your home dir is on, or it has no write access
[16:23] <luxius> right - what's the command to check that? Disk usage, etc.
[16:23] <ikonia> luxius: df will show you
[16:23] <proxx8187> free
[16:23] <ikonia> luxius: however try to create a file in your home dir
[16:23] <ikonia> proxx8187: no, that will show you ram
[16:23] <proxx8187> my bad
[16:24] <luxius> well, there's plenty of space left on the disk
[16:25] <saschxd> is it possible to add another alias to a username? like there's long and short name, how could i add a second shortname ?
[16:25] <luxius> I can create a file in my home dir
[16:25] <ikonia> saschxd: not really, there is only one field for that
[16:25] <ikonia> luxius: what is your username ?
[16:25] <luxius> luxius
[16:25] <ikonia> luxius: touch /home/luxius/test
[16:26] <ikonia> luxius: that will create a file called test
[16:26] <luxius> test is now there
[16:26] <luxius> I did touch ~/test - but same, yeah? ^^
[16:26] <saschxd> oh, too bad. ok tyvm
[16:26] <llutz> luxius: "ls -ld /tmp"
[16:26] <ikonia> luxius: ok, so that's the most common problem done
[16:26] <oooaaaooo> hi guys have a problem printing with cups. It says "Unable to write print data: Broken pipe". This is odd because the print manager's print test page function works fine.  Here is the pastebin http://pastebin.com/NCeD95C9 . Can someone help me?
[16:26] <luxius> cool, thanks
[16:26] <saschxd> ikonia tyvm
[16:27] <SeySayux> Can I install emacs somehow without practically pulling in an entire X server?
[16:27] <Fraz> i like the workspace switcher:D
[16:27] <johnjacobjinger> oooaaaooo: what kind of printer?
[16:27] <oooaaaooo> johnjacobjinger: hl-2270dw
[16:27] <luxius> is there a log written somewhere that might explain why it jumps back on logon tries? (X11)
[16:27] <zayan> Hey guys
[16:27] <Fraz> is it possible to load apps on bootup in specific workspaces?
[16:27] <oooaaaooo> johnjacobjinger: brother
[16:27] <zayan> need some huge help
[16:27] <proxx8187> go ahead
[16:27] <BreoganBard> hi..
[16:28] <zayan> how do i format a pendrive in ubuntu
[16:28] <johnjacobjinger> oooaaaooo: is it a USB printer?
[16:28] <GhostWolf> hi all, i want to install and play a windows game called WoW, lastnight i installed Wine and had issues installing after a certain point, is Wine the best choice for using a windows emulator or should i use something like VMware?
[16:28] <MonkeyDust> saschxd  there's this http://www.unix.com/shell-programming-scripting/142781-setting-alias-user-linux-ubuntu.html
[16:28] <oooaaaooo> johnjacobjinger: no its on the network
[16:28] <proxx8187> zayan: gparted
[16:28] <Pici> SeySayux: Have you tried the emacs23-nox package?
[16:28] <proxx8187> zayan look it up it software center
[16:28] <BreoganBard> does anyone could help me... how to disable guest session on ubuntu 10.04
[16:28] <Fraz> didnt they port wow to linux?
[16:28] <Pici> no
[16:28] <Fraz> oh
[16:28] <SeySayux> Pici: oh, okay, thanks :)
[16:29] <zayan> ok  ill try that out
[16:29] <auronandace> !appdb | Fraz
[16:29] <johnjacobjinger> oooaaaooo: what are you using for the protocol for printing...   LPR, appsocket (9100), ipp?
[16:29] <jameslordhz> hi all
[16:29] <justalek> i have ubuntu 11.10 and windows. The problem is when Im choose windows7loader from splash boot screen, it cannot boot win
[16:29] <oooaaaooo> johnjacobjinger: appsocket
[16:29] <justalek> it just do nothing
[16:29] <jameslordhz> anybody here use vnc server?
[16:29] <_Marcus> Hello jameslordhz
[16:29] <johnjacobjinger> ok can u do me a favor... try telneting into the printer
[16:30] <saschxd> MonkeyDust i don't need an alias for a command but thx anyway
[16:30] <jameslordhz> _Marcus hi, dude
[16:30] <johnjacobjinger> jameslordhz: i have
[16:30] <_Marcus> justalek: This sounds like a Windows problem. Try ##windows
[16:30] <ixiaqla> Hello. Recently I can only see black screens on my x11vnc connection. The connection is good, I can control the mouse, the cursor changes based on what we hover over, but all I see is black. Anyone know how to fix this?
[16:30] <jameslordhz> why i cannot see my head bar when i use vnc?
[16:30] <BreoganBard> ... how to disable guest session on ubuntu 10.04 .... please?
[16:30] <GhostWolf> um auronandace it was me that asked about Wine, and that doesn't answer my question, i want to know the 2 i mention which one is better
[16:30] <jameslordhz> vnc's bug or ubuntu's bug?
[16:30] <oooaaaooo> johnjacobjinger: ill have to go offline. I havent used telnet in a long time. is this sufficient : telnet IP:port
[16:31] <luxius> ikonia, I can log on as a guest. Can you hint me on what's next to bug hunt?
[16:31] <auronandace> GhostWolf: wine is not an emulator, it is a compatibility layer, using a vm for gaming isn't going to work well, performance will be awful
[16:31] <johnjacobjinger> jameslordhz: right click on the title bar and see if there's an option in there for seeing the controls
[16:31] <johnjacobjinger> jameslordhz: dont rmemebe rthe exact name
[16:31] <ikonia> luxius: got to be a file in your home directory can't be updated
[16:31] <johnjacobjinger> oooaaaooo: depends what you are doing it from.. but yes on ubuntu that should work... why do u need to go offline tho?
[16:31] <ikonia> luxius: if the guest user works, then it must be something specific to your home directory
[16:31] <oooaaaooo> johnjacobjinger: its on a different network
[16:31] <GhostWolf> auronandace, not what i was told by people who used vmware, but what would be your suggestion then?
[16:32] <luxius> .ICEauthority maybe, ikonia ? ^^
[16:32] <johnjacobjinger> interesting... ok
[16:32] <luxius> ikonia, it mentioned that file trying to use one of the windows managers
[16:32] <auronandace> GhostWolf: if you check the appdb, which ubootu linked to, it would tell you how well wine supports wow
[16:32] <johnjacobjinger> and is ur cups server on the same network as that printer?
[16:32] <jameslordhz> johnjacobjinger dude, the head bar is just black, i cannot say any control button, but they are there
[16:32] <oooaaaooo> johnjacobjinger: yes
[16:33] <ikonia> luxius: what file
[16:33] <auronandace> GhostWolf: if you are asking for my experience then i can only say i don't do much gaming
[16:33] <luxius> ikonia, .ICEauthority
[16:33] <ikonia> luxius: is that file in your home dir
[16:33] <oooaaaooo> johnjacobjinger: brb
[16:33] <luxius> ikonia, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1841457 <--- someone else mentioning this
[16:33] <GhostWolf> auronandace, i fgiured that but i had a problem installing from a certain point using wine, maybe cause i don't know how to use wine, i always end up having problems last time i used wine few years ago
[16:33] <luxius> ikonia, as I said, one of the window managers mention that file when trying to log on, the others don't mention it ... just goes black.
[16:33] <dragongallz> irc.OpenJoke.org
[16:33] <luxius> ikonia, but I don't know what that file is or does.
[16:33] <ikonia> luxius: is that file there?
[16:34] <luxius> it is there, yes
[16:34] <auronandace> GhostWolf: the appdb and #winehq can help with any wine specific questions
[16:34] <ikonia> luxius: check the permissions on it
[16:34] <hp> siemka
[16:34] <chops-stick> i live in india soon our cable is getting digital can some1 help me
[16:34] <luxius> -rw------- 1 luxius luxius 0 2012-03-12 18:18 .ICEauthority
[16:34] <GhostWolf> auronandace, and is the #winehq in this server?
[16:34] <hp> jest ktoś
[16:34] <ikonia> chops-stick: what do you need help with ?
[16:34] <auronandace> GhostWolf: yes, on freenode
[16:34] <hp> polska.
[16:34] <chops-stick> metv will work with ubuntu-12.04
[16:34] <hp> hello
[16:34] <chops-stick> ?
[16:34] <GhostWolf> ok i'll ask them
[16:35] <ikonia> chops-stick: metv ?
[16:35] <hp> hello
[16:35] <chops-stick> i have internal tvtuner card
[16:35] <Majed> Hi
[16:35] <luxius> ikonia, that was the line you wanted?
[16:35] <ikonia> chops-stick: ok, does it work with ubuntu now?
[16:35] <ikonia> luxius: what ?
[16:35] <auronandace> chops-stick: 12.04 support in #ubuntu+1 until release please
[16:35] <chops-stick> metv supposed to be a digital tv app for ubuntu?
[16:35] <luxius> ikonia: -rw------- 1 luxius luxius 0 2012-03-12 18:18 .ICEauthority
[16:35] <ikonia> luxius: oh, I see it
[16:36] <ikonia> luxius: yes, that should be fine in terms of permissions
[16:36] <jameslordhz> johnjacobjinger see this pic, http://i.imgur.com/JQMtw.png
[16:36] <luxius> thought so =)
[16:36] <jameslordhz> johnjacobjinger vnc seems broken:(
[16:36] <ikonia> luxius: compare it against the guys user if you are in any doubt
[16:36] <chops-stick> tvtime used to work with my existing card now its not working since natty .,......i tried many tricks....all failed
[16:36] <luxius> ikonia, what guy? =)
[16:36] <ikonia> luxius: have a compare against your directories and .$something files
[16:36] <Islam> how to get platalk installed on wine, I already have it installed but it doesnt work it gives me an error ?
[16:36] <luxius> okay, will do
[16:36] <ikonia> luxius: "guest" not guy
[16:37] <johnjacobjinger> jameslordhz: what are u missing?
[16:37] <auronandace> !appdb | Islam
[16:37] <chops-stick> iam using natty guys
[16:37] <jameslordhz> johnjacobjinger missing what?
[16:37] <johnjacobjinger> jameslordhz: that looks normal
[16:37] <auronandace> chops-stick: natty is 11.04
[16:37] <johnjacobjinger> btw this is ubuntu channel not windows
[16:37] <jameslordhz> johnjacobjinger maybe miss some fonts, but i have installed for it:(
[16:38] <johnjacobjinger> i guess i dont see any issue jameslordhz thats what vnc looks like for me
[16:38] <jameslordhz> johnjacobjinger cannot see close , maxamize and minimal button:(
[16:38] <Bunie> Hey guys
[16:38] <Bunie> "Boot Error"?
[16:38] <johnjacobjinger> oh i thought u cut those off
[16:38] <luxius> ikonia, but when I try and logon on with "ubuntu" as window manager it says "could not update blah blah .ICEauthority"
[16:39] <jameslordhz> johnjacobjinger and cannot see title name
[16:39] <johnjacobjinger> oh wait i see the red
[16:39] <johnjacobjinger> lol
[16:39] <Bunie> auronandace: you still here?
[16:39] <ikonia> luxius: ok, so it's telling you the problem there,
[16:39] <johnjacobjinger> what happens if you change the display resolution or color options of the vnc viewer
[16:39] <Bunie> or ikonia?
[16:39] <ikonia> luxius: you need to look at why it can't update it
[16:39] <auronandace> Bunie: yes
[16:39] <Bunie> it tells me "Boot Error"
[16:39] <johnjacobjinger> weclome back oooaaaooo1
[16:39] <Bunie> Though the usb works fine in my other PC
[16:39] <ikonia> Bunie: what ?
[16:39] <ikonia> luxius: remove the file and let the window manage gcreate a new one
[16:39] <Bunie> and its the same USB i used to install Windows 7 on this one
[16:39] <ikonia> Bunie: I thought you where doing an install ?
[16:39] <Bunie> I was.
[16:39] <jameslordhz> johnjacobjinger dude, when u open a web page using firefox, u can see the title on head bar, understand?
[16:39] <luxius> ikonia, just read that in a forum thread, trying ... (thanks)
[16:39] <Bunie> install from a usb
[16:39] <ikonia> Bunie: then why are you talking about usb's
[16:39] <Bunie> using lili
[16:40] <ikonia> sorry, that's your problem to make a working usb stick
[16:40] <ikonia> !install | Bunie
[16:40] <ikonia> Bunie: there is a good doc in that link
[16:40] <Bunie> ikonia: i made a working usb stick
[16:40] <oooaaaooo1> johnjacobjinger: i tried the telnet and it said connected. I even printed out a pdf. It worked. The only difference with this pdf is that its a smaller file. It seems to screw up when I try to print larger files. The one that failed was >200 K
[16:40] <Bunie> my laptop is running it right now
[16:40] <ikonia> Bunie: well, you've not as it's says "boot error"
[16:40] <Bunie> but my desktop wont =/
[16:40] <ikonia> Bunie: ok - so what is the exact error on your desktop
[16:40] <johnjacobjinger> jameslordhz: yes i understand what u are saying now looking at the pic... i'm saying what happens when you change your color options of the vnc viwer to less colors
[16:40] <Bunie> im burning a CD Now anyways. if it says Boot Error ill cry
[16:40] <Bunie> ikonia "Boot Error". I press any key and it just repeats
[16:41] <Bunie> until i remove the key and it boots as usual
[16:41] <johnjacobjinger> the reason why is cuz that happens to me when i use vnc with win7 sometimes... i cnt see tabs or certain things
[16:41] <ikonia> Bunie: why do you have the USB disk in ?
[16:41] <johnjacobjinger> and it has to do with the VNC driver
[16:41] <luxius> ikonia, that did the trick. Thanks a lot for your assistance!
[16:41] <ikonia> Bunie: if you've done an install why are you leaving the usb stick in ?
[16:41] <ikonia> luxius: no problem
[16:41] <ikonia> luxius: you solved it yourself rewally
[16:41] <ikonia> really
[16:41] <Islam> any body have any idea how to solve a wine problem not working with paltalk messenger
[16:41] <Bunie> ikonia: Its a usb installer. it doesnt work onmy desktop tho
[16:41] <Bunie> it works on my laptop
[16:41] <ikonia> Islam: the guys in #winehq probably
[16:41] <Xabster> Can I tell Ubuntu 11.10 to disconnect from the wireless when there's a wired connection? .. And still auto-connect like normal
[16:41] <johnjacobjinger> oooaaaooo1: hmmm interesting... what happens when u print direct without going through cups
[16:41] <luxius> ikonia, partly, but you were the right kind of support. I don't know all the commands by heart =)
[16:42] <Bunie> wich makes it seem like my desktop isnt compatable, however, i installed win7 from usb just yesterday
[16:42] <luxius> ikonia, as an old Windoze user all those permissions and what not is "handled" (or rather not) by the system ^^
[16:42] <ikonia> luxius: not a problem, glad you are working
[16:42] <oooaaaooo1> johnjacobjinger: i think i only have the cups driver
[16:42] <jameslordhz> johnjacobjinger the problem still exists
[16:43] <oooaaaooo1> johnjacobjinger: i can check the website, see if they have a non cups driver
[16:43] <Bunie> burning the disk using my terrible disk drive and my only CD-R
[16:43] <Bunie> wish me luck again xD
[16:43] <johnjacobjinger> oooaaaooo1: can u try from a PC and use the pc version
[16:43] <AdvoWork> Hi there, i've just installed Ubuntu 11.10, and it asked me to install some drivers for the gfx card I think. That failed, and I rebooted, and basically ive logged in, and its come to a screen with just File, Edit, View, Go, Bookmarks etc, no menus and so forth. Any ideas please?
[16:43] <jameslordhz> oooaaaooo1 hi
[16:43] <johnjacobjinger> just trying to see if the printer is messed up
[16:44] <oooaaaooo1> johnjacobjinger: you mean a windows machine?
[16:44] <johnjacobjinger> yes oooaaaooo1
[16:45] <johnjacobjinger> set up a direct connection and try printing
[16:45] <johnjacobjinger> see if that works
[16:45] <oooaaaooo1> johnjacobjinger: like a usb connection
[16:45] <johnjacobjinger> no direct tcp/ip
[16:45] <louder> hi everybody
[16:46] <oooaaaooo1> johnjacobjinger: ok well ill go try it
[16:46] <oooaaaooo1> johnjacobjinger: brb
[16:46] <louder> is there a way to set a wider screen resolution?? currently the appearance settings only offers 1024x600
[16:46] <johnjacobjinger> oooaaaooo1: does this only happen with larger than like 200k documents?
[16:46] <oooaaaooo1> johnjacobjinger: seems like it
[16:46] <jameslordhz> oh, hell
[16:47] <Skribe> has anyone ever had an issue connecting to xrdc after running x11vnc server?
[16:47] <oooaaaooo1> johnjacobjinger: alright brb
[16:48] <luxius> louder, should be possible to set up a resolution that both gfx card and monitor supports.
[16:48] <luxius> louder, so I am guessing either your monitor or gfx driver isn't up to date?
[16:48] <BreoganBard> does anyone could help me... how to disable guest session on ubuntu 10.04 ?
[16:48] <louder> luxius: how can i check the gfx driver
[16:48] <luxius> BreoganBard, http://hmontoliu.blogspot.com/2011/10/disable-guest-sesson-in-ubuntu-1110.html
[16:49] <BreoganBard> luxius:  thank you
[16:49] <Skribe> has anyone ever had an issue connecting to xrdc after running x11vnc server?
[16:50] <llutz> BreoganBard: sudo apt-get purge gdm-guest-session
[16:50] <Calinou> louder: install propretary drivers
[16:50] <louder> graphic card is Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller
[16:50] <bilegt> My ubuntu frequently loses internet connection over wifi
[16:50] <Calinou> ^ integrated
[16:50] <luxius> louder, in a terminal (CLI) try 'lshw' (list hardware)
[16:50] <Calinou> you can't go far with integrated graphic cards
[16:50] <Calinou> bilegt: what adapter are you using, if any
[16:51] <Calinou> also, do you really need to use wifi?
[16:51] <BreoganBard> llutz: thank you too
[16:51] <Xabster> Can I tell Ubuntu 11.10 to disconnect from the wireless when there's a wired connection? .. And still auto-connect like normal
[16:51] <bilegt> disabling ipv6 will solve it ??
[16:51] <louder> do i get the same output with lspci??
[16:52] <Calinou> IPv6 still isn't finished
[16:52] <Calinou> don't expect it to be stable
[16:52] <johnjacobjinger> ipv6 is obsolete anywas
[16:52] <luxius> well, I don't believe the IPv6 is causing WiFi to studder
[16:52] <johnjacobjinger> ;-)
[16:52] <luxius> it's because WiFi studders
[16:52] <luxius> either the adapter or the connection point is having overflow and restarts
[16:52] <MonkeyDust> wifi is less stable than ethernet
[16:53] <luxius> bilegt, try with a cable, if that solves the problem you have found the cause
[16:53] <Skribe> has anyone ever had an issue connecting to xrdc?
[16:53] <bilegt> Calinou: yeah, my brother and I share our internet via wifi
[16:53] <bilegt> Calinou: Virtual Wifi hotspot
[16:53] <luxius> louder, lspci does "list pci", so no =)
[16:53] <MonkeyDust> !info xrdc
[16:53] <Calinou> HOTSPOT, lol
[16:54] <Calinou> MonkeyDust: that's normal
[16:54] <Skribe> im using ubu 10.04
[16:54] <Skribe> have an issue connecting to my target machine after running x11vnc
[16:54] <Skribe> after a reboot, xrdc works fine
[16:54] <Skribe> and stops working as soon as i run x11
[16:55] <MonkeyDust> Calinou  i know it's normal
[16:55] <MonkeyDust> but other people seem to take wifi for granted
[16:57] <luxius> wifi is good for semi-stable areas, like the bus or the train. At home only CAT-5+ works -.-
[16:57] <louder> luxius: under category display, using lshw the device product is Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics Controller
[16:57] <AdvoWork> Hi there, i've just installed Ubuntu 11.10, and it asked me to install some drivers for the gfx card I think. That failed, and I rebooted, and basically ive logged in, and its come to a screen with just File, Edit, View, Go, Bookmarks etc, no menus and so forth. Any ideas please?
[16:57] <Bunie> Disk ruined =/
[16:58] <Bunie> "Error writing data"
[16:58] <Bunie> i guess no ubuntu for me :D
[16:58] <ikonia> oh dear
[16:58] <luxius> louder, it should tell you which driver it uses
[16:58] <Bunie> sucks, i really wanted to try it lol
[16:58] <ikonia> Bunie: unlucky
[16:58] <luxius> louder, from there you go forum hunting for more info, which driver should you use, etc =)
[16:58] <Bunie> any other way to install ubuntu? witchcraft?
[16:58] <Bunie> lol =/
[16:58] <ikonia> Bunie: nope
[16:59] <luxius> Bunie, did you try 2x speed?
[16:59] <Bunie> my minimum was 4x speed, wich i used
[16:59] <johnjacobjinger> Bunie what about USB?
[16:59] <luxius> some medias are crappy and need min speed
[16:59] <luxius> like the ones I'm using, Princo >_<
[16:59] <Bunie> johnjacobjinger: Tried it first. says "Boot Error"
[16:59] <Bunie> the usb boots fine on my other computer
[16:59] <johnjacobjinger> Bunie: does the machine support booting from USB?
[16:59] <johnjacobjinger> oh interesting
[16:59] <johnjacobjinger> what kind of machine?
[16:59] <Bunie> johnjacobjinger: i installed win7 thru usb yesterday
[17:00] <Bunie> ancient emachines
[17:00] <luxius> Bunie, my gf even has a portable HDD that can act as a USB boot device. You wouldn't happen to have one of those? ^^
[17:00] <Bunie> I do, but i cant format it, and its encrypted with truecrypt
[17:00] <johnjacobjinger> Bunie u could in theory try to net install it but it isnt easy
[17:00] <luxius> nvm then :P
[17:00] <Bunie> any way to like
[17:01] <Bunie> use wubi to install the installer?
[17:01] <Bunie> and then from in wubi install? XD
[17:01] <ikonia> wubi only does a wubi install
[17:01] <luxius> Bunie, no
[17:01] <luxius> Bunie, you need "root access" to the MBR and other stuff to install a new OS
[17:01] <louder> luxius, found the driver, but i guess if the card is compatible the propietary driver should be on the official repos, therefore the device will be upgraded automatically??
[17:01] <Bunie> okay so how about
[17:02] <Bunie> my cd didnt burn properly. but if it boots, can i do the command thingy to install from my usb?
[17:02] <luxius> loucal, no. Proprietary drivers are often copyrighted, which makes it a no-go for Debian.
[17:02] <ikonia> Bunie: no
[17:02] <Bunie> why not D:
[17:02] <luxius> sorry, louder
[17:02] <ikonia> Bunie: because you can't
[17:02] <Bunie> linux is supposed to be able to do things.
[17:02] <ikonia> Bunie: it is
[17:02] <Bunie> i cant use the CD as a boot method for the USB?
[17:02] <jameslordhz> johnjacobjinger dude, x11vnc works well
[17:02] <Bunie> dont ppl actually do that regularly?
[17:02] <ikonia> Bunie: but you can't just make things up say "it should be able to do that because it's linux"
[17:02] <ikonia> Bunie: no.
[17:02] <louder> driver=i915
[17:02] <luxius> Bunie - you can
[17:02] <Bunie> i know ppl used to use floppy disks to boot from usb drives
[17:02] <ikonia> Bunie: the install CD is not boot media, it's a full desktop system that needs to uncompress it's self into specific locations
[17:03] <louder> luxius driver=i915
[17:03] <jameslordhz> johnjacobjinger vncserver cannot show the head bar:(
[17:03] <luxius> Bunie - if you can boot the CD and edit the scripts to use the USB as repository
[17:03] <Bunie> the cd failed burning about 80% in
[17:03] <Bunie> >3<
[17:03] <Bunie> 88%
[17:03] <johnjacobjinger> jameslordhz: yea i guess i'm out of ideas... i can only think it's an issue with the generic graphics driver vnc uses
[17:03] <ikonia> luxius: how are you going to edit the sripts on a read only media that's corrupt ?
[17:03] <luxius> louder, sorry, I don't know anything about on-board gfx chips, and less about intel gfx xD
[17:03] <nstridesout> Guys, i upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10 and my system became slow. what can i do?
[17:04] <luxius> ikonia, you aren't - I was thinking about editing the scripts before you burn them ;)
[17:04] <ikonia> luxius: how are you going to use the usb stick as a repository when the repo software are in squash fs format and will need decompressing
[17:04] <LiNuX`sup> ok so I completely failed at trying to get gnome3 working. I tried a new account. I uninstalled unity/gnome/compiz then installed gnome fresh and I still can't load gnome3... gnome classic works fine and the popups seems to be gnome3 looking, but I can't get the ui
[17:04] <jameslordhz> johnjacobjinger why x11vnc works well then?
[17:04] <_Marcus> nstridesout: It just became slow?
[17:04] <luxius> ikonia, okay, you win - I know too little about the builds xD
[17:04] <Bunie> any chance ill get to a live desktop with 88% burned?
[17:04] <luxius> Bunie, listen to ikoinia :P
[17:04] <ikonia> Bunie: no
[17:04] <nstridesout> _marcus: the loading is really slow
[17:04] <ikonia> Bunie: and even if you did, it would so you no good
[17:04] <_Marcus> nstridesout: I am not familiar with 11.04. Does it not have Unity?
[17:05] <nstridesout> _Marcu:the booting process i mean
[17:05] <johnjacobjinger> not sure jameslordhz
[17:05] <jameslordhz> johnjacobjinger newbie, go home:)
[17:05] <_Marcus> nstridesout: Oh. I have no idea then. Disable some things that load at startup?
[17:05] <johnjacobjinger> ummm excuse me?
[17:05] <luxius> ikonia, isn't there a mini dist he can try burning and then upgrade with apt-get?
[17:05] <louder> what's the gfx? sorry newish on this kind of issues
[17:05] <Bunie> Last crazy idea. any way i can create a fat32 partition on my hdd, copy the CD contents to it, and apply a boot sector?
[17:05] <luxius> louder, graphics
[17:05] <jameslordhz> i am kidding , dude:)
[17:06] <ikonia> luxius: no, there is a net installer but if he a.) can't burn a CD b.) will need to setup a full net install process
[17:06] <ikonia> Bunie: no
[17:06] <johnjacobjinger> Bunie: if you can boot from a gparted disk sure
[17:06] <nstridesout> anybody upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10? My system's boot process is slower!!! help
[17:06] <louder> but the intel graphic cards are compatible, arent they?
[17:06] <ikonia> johnjacobjinger: sorry, no he can't
[17:06] <luxius> louder, yes
[17:07] <johnjacobjinger> bunie u could take the HD oout of the machine connect it to a USB adapter to make it external then boot from gparted on another cd
[17:07] <ikonia> johnjacobjinger: and how would he do the install from there ?
[17:07] <luxius> louder, I just don't know which you should use. In my case it's Radeon 300 (9500 Pro), and it has a FREE linux driver installed. I can install the ATI driver on top, if I sign the copyright agreement, to get more juice out of the card. As is I don't need wild 3D, so I don't care.
[17:07] <Dynamit> It was a long time ago i upgraded from 11.04-11.10 so i can't remember if i my boot was slower after the upgrade sorry nstridesout
[17:08] <louder> luxius, the issue is that im currently using a different screen resolution than the native one (1024x600) and can only use 4/5 parts of the screen with the mouse
[17:08] <Bunie> There has to be a way for me to get ubuntu =[
[17:08] <nstridesout> Dynamit:what're u using now?
[17:08] <ikonia> Bunie: yes, use the official/supported/documented methods
[17:08] <luxius> louder, and you can't change it in display settings in the control panel?
[17:08] <Bunie> some kind of wubi witchcraft =/
[17:08] <ikonia> Bunie: no
[17:08] <Bunie> install to wubi, use gparted
[17:08] <Bunie> idk ._.
[17:08] <ikonia> Nisstyre: no
[17:09] <ikonia> oops
[17:09] <ikonia> Bunie: no
[17:09] <Bunie> lolz
[17:09] <Bunie> im using a diff pen drive maker. the one listed on the ubuntu downloads page
[17:09] <Bunie> tho the other one worked on my other pc so i dont see how it will help
[17:09] <louder> luxius, i changed it using a program - jupiter. 10.1 inches screen, it really widens the space with 1024x768
[17:10] <Dynamit> nstridesout 11.10 but it was too long ago i upgraded from 11.04
[17:10] <nstridesout> some help guys, my system is slower when booting after upgrading from 11.04 to 11.10
[17:10] <johnjacobjinger> ikonia if he had a second machine could he not install using debootstrap?
[17:10] <louder> the program is called jupiter, and the screen is 10.1 inches
[17:10] <ikonia> johnjacobjinger: so have you checked any of this before making these suggestions, and keeping in mind this is a pretty over the top suggestion to do an install rather than "just burn the CD correctly"
[17:10] <luxius> louder, sorry, I don't know. Hope you find a fix, though =)
[17:10] <Dynamit> nstridesout do you have the latest Kernel and have loading the newest one?
[17:10] <johnjacobjinger> ikonia... i am asking a question... not offereing a suggestion
[17:10] <nstridesout> i think i do
[17:11] <johnjacobjinger> i asked if he could use the debootstrap method which is covered by the ubuntu docs
[17:11] <Bunie> ikonia: it failed 88% in, i had nothing to do with it. my CD drive sucks.
[17:11] <johnjacobjinger> to install without a CD
[17:11] <nstridesout> dynamit: i think i do b'se i am fully uptodate
[17:11] <Bunie> BUT MY OTHER PC HAD ONE! Too bad i dont have any more CD's
[17:11] <louder> luxius, thanx anyway
[17:11] <ikonia> Bunie: ok, so there is your problem
[17:11] <ikonia> Bunie: you need to a.) source a CD drive that works b.) buy more blank media
[17:11] <nstridesout> dynamit:not so sure...!!!
[17:12] <dawne_p> http://scottlinux.com/2011/01/19/thunderbird-recover-email-password/  Anyone know how to turn the passwords I find into something I can read?
[17:12] <Bunie> im gonna try this usb, brb.
[17:14] <R3db3ard> !test
[17:14] <LiNuX`sup> ok so I completely failed at trying to get gnome3 working. I tried a new account. I uninstalled unity/gnome/compiz then installed gnome fresh and I still can't load gnome3... gnome classic works fine and the popups seems to be gnome3 looking, but I can't get the ui
[17:15] <louder> luxius, is there a site where linux drivers are listed for different devices?? remember found one for wifi cards, but dont know about graphics
[17:16] <afd> can anyone recommend a pdf converter? I need to turn it in to something editable (I use LibreOffice and Writer doesn't seem to open it correctly)
[17:16] <johnjacobjinger> pdf converter?
[17:16] <johnjacobjinger> to convert docs into pdf?
[17:16] <LiNuX`sup> pdf editor
[17:16] <luxius> louder, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/
[17:16] <afd> other way - pdf to .doc / similar
[17:16] <LiNuX`sup> inkscape
[17:16] <johnjacobjinger> oh i see
[17:16] <johnjacobjinger> u need an OCR
[17:17] <LiNuX`sup> ocreader
[17:17] <johnjacobjinger> something that can read the PDF and use OCR to recognize the text and make it text for .doc
[17:17] <afd> cheers guys! *goes investigating*
[17:17] <KM0201> then you can use the "Print to PDF" function, if you want to keep it a pdf
[17:17] <johnjacobjinger> ocrreader might do the trick
[17:18] <R3db3ard> i prefer foxit reader
[17:18] <Fyodorovna> LiNuX`sup, removing unity/gnome/compiz is not advised this a fresh install?
[17:19] <Bunie> Okay so looking at this CD it burned, its totally ruined lol and my disk drive wont even read disks, so thats out of the question now =/
[17:19] <LiNuX`sup> no it's not I'm avoiding doing a fresh install Fyodorovna
[17:19] <LiNuX`sup> I have way too many programs and other things to want to do that
[17:19] <LiNuX`sup> I'm just finding gnome 3 to be more productive for how I work and what I do
[17:19] <Fyodorovna> LiNuX`sup, then reinstall all you have removed.
[17:20] <LiNuX`sup> I did that and still :(
[17:20] <Bunie> any way to install grub and boot usb thru it?
[17:20] <Bunie> ><
[17:20] <LiNuX`sup> gnome classic works fine, gnome 3 tries to load it's toolbar but then fails and loads the basic unity one
[17:20] <Fyodorovna> LiNuX`sup, that's all I can suggest.
[17:21] <LiNuX`sup> well thanks, I guess I'll wait for someone that has run into the issue
[17:21] <LiNuX`sup> bunie unetbootin
[17:21] <oooaaaooo> johnjacobjinger: yeah works flawlessly on a win7 boot with win7 drivers connected directly via tcpip port
[17:22] <Bunie> LiNuX`sup: Wont boot from usb
[17:22] <Bunie> no idea why. it boots windows from usb fine
[17:22] <oooaaaooo> johnjacobjinger: you there man?
[17:22] <kmels> hello, I'm trying to setup a wifi printer, the printer prints the connection info but I can't ping it with ubuntu
[17:22] <Whiskey> Anyone good on batch try to do / 1="1 2 3 4": read | 1 2; and get 1 2 in var $1 / and 3 4 in var $2
[17:22] <LiNuX`sup> bunie: have you tried selecting a boot device on startup or are you just pluging it in and praying?
[17:22] <kmels> (I tried searching for it using the Printer with the appropriate ip of course)
[17:22] <guestnumber1221> Hi there people! I'm on natty, and I've noticed that some fonts in certain apps look weird compared to system apps. Here's an example: http://i.imgur.com/BBQ7x.png
[17:23] <Bunie> LiNuX`sup: i have.. it says "Boot Error"
[17:23] <Bunie> and continues to say that until i remove the usb
[17:23] <LiNuX`sup> try unetbootin
[17:23] <Bunie> ive tried two different usb makers, both work on my other PC's but not this one
[17:23] <kmels> guestnumber1221, I think there's a key you can set on gnome-settings
[17:23] <jrib> Whiskey: sounds like a job for awk, though I'm not sure I follow exactly what you want to do
[17:24] <guestnumber1221> kmels: There is? Could you please find it? It's been bugging me for days.
[17:25] <Whiskey> i try to read from "1 2 3 4" and make the frist two to come in to one var and the other 3 4 to another
[17:25] <Whiskey> but the text can be anything
[17:25] <MonkeyCantSwim> I am looking for some software to design a few simple UML diagrams with UML notation (not crowsfeet or chens notation) could anyone point me in the right direction
[17:25] <jrib> Whiskey: yes, use awk or cut
[17:25] <MonkeyCantSwim> please dont make me go use windows and buy some crappy software
[17:26] <Whiskey> jrb can you show me an example i don´t now how to use any of those stuff
[17:26] <kmels> guestnumber1221, gconf-editor, /apps/gnome-terminal/profiles/yourprofile/font
[17:27] <AdvoWork> Hi there, i've just installed Ubuntu 11.10, and it asked me to install some drivers for the gfx card I think. That failed, and I rebooted, and basically ive logged in, and its come to a screen with just File, Edit, View, Go, Bookmarks etc, no menus and so forth. Any ideas please?
[17:27] <Bunie> okay so my plan is. install wubi, use wubi to make a Fat32 partition. Copy the CD Contents into the partition. mark the partition active. apply bootloader. cross fingers.
[17:27] <Bunie> Any flaws in my plan?
[17:27] <jrib> Whiskey: cut -d' ' -f1,2 <<< "1 2 3 4"
[17:27] <guestnumber1221> kmels: Oh, I think you got me wrong. You see on that screenshot the font in Firefox was wider than the one in Terminal. (the menu bar: File, Edit... etc.). That's what I'm asking.
[17:27] <hp> sima
[17:27] <hp> siema
[17:27] <hp> kto tu jest
[17:28] <Psychoactive> hey people
[17:28] <Psychoactive> i need little help
[17:28] <hp> hej
[17:28] <kmels> guestnumber1221, oh I see, and did you confirm firefox font and gnome-terminal font were the same?
[17:28] <Psychoactive> with ratbox ircd
[17:28] <Pici> !pl | hp
[17:28]  * Bunie cries ._.
[17:28] <Psychoactive> how i can make it run
[17:28] <Psychoactive> at startup
[17:28] <Psychoactive> ?
[17:28] <hp> i from poland
[17:28] <hp> hello
[17:29] <guestnumber1221> kmels: Well, see that's the thing, I think it's Sans and the system is using the font 'Ubuntu'. But I could be wrong. There is no font config for Firefox only, that I've found, however.
[17:29] <hp> Mikero
[17:29] <Whiskey> jrb
[17:29] <Whiskey> it will never work
[17:29] <Whiskey> the actully text i try to do it on is
[17:29] <Whiskey> 1="grep -iq squeeze-backports /etc/apt/sources.list || echo "deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list` `sudo apt-get update` `sudo apt-get install swig`"
[17:29] <hp> what the fack
[17:29] <Psychoactive> anyone can help me?
[17:30] <Whiskey> etch ` ` shuld be in a own arg
[17:30] <hp> yes
[17:30] <Whiskey> lol
[17:30] <Whiskey> var
[17:30] <hp> lol
[17:30] <hp> lol
[17:30] <hp> lol
[17:30] <Psychoactive> hp, how to make the ircd to run at startup?
[17:30] <FloodBot1> hp: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:30] <jrib> Whiskey: use a pastebin
[17:30] <hp> jest ktoś z polski
[17:30] <hp> ...:(
[17:30] <mneptok> hp: this is a support channel in English. ask or answer questions only.
[17:30] <hp> :(
[17:30] <hp> :(
[17:30] <FloodBot1> hp: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:30] <louder> luxius, The Acer Aspire One has been awarded the status of Certified on Ubuntu 32-bit.
[17:30] <mneptok> !pl > hp
[17:30] <Whiskey> jrb? why for one line?
[17:30] <mtrd`> hello. i'm trying to use ffmpeg, is this a right place to ask for help ?
[17:31] <hp> right now
[17:31] <webnet_> mtrd`, is it on ubuntu?
[17:31] <jrib> Whiskey: you seem to have unmatched quotes...
[17:31] <mtrd`> webnet_, yes.
[17:31] <webnet_> then yes. lol
[17:31] <webnet_> whats your issue
[17:31] <mtrd`> okay, i'm trying to convert .XA files into mp3s, but i can't get the right syntax
[17:31] <Whiskey> yhe
[17:31] <louder> which means that all devices in my laptop are fully supported, but also means that my screen resolutions is hard to change from the way it is configured by default!
[17:32] <Whiskey> but it won´t work anyways :)
[17:32] <hp> hey
[17:32] <c3sso> uhm, does somebody know: is it possible to change the default file open dialog from recently used to last used folder?
[17:32] <hp> write
[17:32] <jrib> Whiskey: thus I'm asking you that paste what you actually want to do on a pastebin
[17:32] <webnet_> mtrd`, im assuming you are using command line?
[17:32] <hp> siema
[17:32] <hp> siema
[17:32] <hp> siema
[17:32] <FloodBot1> hp: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:32] <jrib> s/that/to
[17:32] <mtrd`> webnet_, that's right
[17:33] <Whiskey> yeh if i do as i show
[17:34] <webnet_> mtrd`, are you using ffmpg throung something like sox?
[17:34] <Whiskey> 1= "this one this two this trhee" it won´t now when i split it that it shuld take two or more words/arguments as one var
[17:34] <hp> look me
[17:34] <mneptok> hp: this is a support channel in English. ask or answer questions only.
[17:34] <jrib> Whiskey: like I said, use cut or awk
[17:34] <mtrd`> webnet_, not at all, just a standard command line.. not sure about what is sox..
[17:34] <webnet_> !ask | hp
[17:35] <Whiskey> jrb, as i sad i don´t know how to use it for my needs
[17:35] <Whiskey> what was why i asked how to do it
[17:35] <jrib> Whiskey: cut -d' ' -f1,2 <<< "1 2 3 4"
[17:35] <jrib> Whiskey: cut -d' ' -f1,2 <<< "this one this two this three"
[17:35] <webnet_> mtrd`, sox is SOund eXchange. its like a swiss army knife of audio manipulation from command line
[17:36] <Whiskey> i don´t get
[17:36] <webnet_> mtrd`, it can do alot of stuff that ffmpg cant and allows more functionality
[17:36] <zykotick9> !info sox
[17:36] <Whiskey> is 1 and 2 the vars you create?
[17:36] <jrib> Whiskey: run the command, read the man page, all should become clear
[17:36] <ukchris_> hi all, i use putty on a windows machine to remote desktop into another machine/network.  is the same possible from ubuntu, perhaps using WINE, to a windows remote desktop?
[17:36] <webnet_> thankyou zykotick9 i learn that ubottu has a new factoid every day
[17:36] <webnet_> that i didnt know about
[17:36] <jrib> Whiskey: the COMMAND <<< "string" syntax you can just view as shorthand for echo "string" | COMMAND
[17:36] <mtrd`> webnet_, seems like ffmpeg can do that conversion, so if you know a bit about the syntax, i'il be glad :)
[17:37] <_Marcus> webnet_: Type "/msg ubottu factoids" and you will be provided with a link to all of the factoids
[17:37] <mtrd`> i'm a little too lazy to install sox, but i'll try it someday
[17:37] <zykotick9> webnet_: "!info foo" show version info for any package in ubuntu repos
[17:37] <Whiskey> oooo :D
[17:37] <Whiskey> thats actully works :D
[17:37] <Whiskey> thx :D
[17:37] <Whiskey> i hope
[17:37] <Whiskey> _D
[17:38] <webnet_> zykotick9, cool thanks for the info :D
[17:38] <webnet_> _Marcus, thanx :D
[17:38] <webnet_> mtrd`, im not totally sure how to use ffmpg on its own. perhaps someone else can help?
[17:39] <mtrd`> webnet_, thank you though :)
[17:39] <Whiskey> jrb
[17:39] <Whiskey> what did i do wrong
[17:40] <ukchris> grrr wifi :)
[17:40] <Benkinooby> hi, a friend asked me to recover data from a formatted hdd... can i ask here or should i go to offtopic?
[17:40] <webnet_> mtrd`, no. sorry i couldnt help more
[17:40] <Benkinooby> it's not really ubuntu related
[17:40] <webnet_> *no prob
[17:40] <Psychoactive> who can help me people?
[17:40] <Psychoactive> i need to run ratbox ircd at startup
[17:40] <zykotick9> mtrd`: do you have mplayer installed?  does it play the XA file? if so "mplayer -ao pcm -vo null foo.xa" should create a WAV output that you could encode to MP3 - OGG is better ;)
[17:40] <webnet_> Benkinooby, #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:41] <Psychoactive> i have added it path to /etc/rc.local
[17:41] <webnet_> Benkinooby, #hardware can probably help too
[17:41] <Psychoactive> but it does not run
[17:41] <mtrd`> zykotick9, trying it ! thanks :)
[17:41] <Whiskey> http://codepad.org/DxXkOk6V <--- jrb
[17:41] <Psychoactive> what i do wrong?
[17:41] <zul0> Hi, why in ubuntu i cant get full internet speed but in windows work great? what i should do?
[17:41] <Whiskey> http://codepad.org/DxXkOk6V <--- "jrib"
[17:41] <johnjacobjinger> huh?
[17:41] <Benkinooby> webnet_, ok, thank you
[17:41] <webnet_> zul0, why version of ubu?
[17:41] <zul0> 10.04
[17:41] <webnet_> Benkinooby, np :)
[17:41] <johnjacobjinger> zul0: what are u using to base ur internet speed off of
[17:41] <dagerik> zul0: How do you measure the speeds?
[17:42] <jrib> Whiskey: what is your end-goal?
[17:42] <zykotick9> ignarps: zul0
[17:42] <zul0> dagerik, im triying with some webs to check this..
[17:42] <johnjacobjinger> i should have phrased that question the same as dagerik
[17:42] <Whiskey> o sorry
[17:42] <johnjacobjinger> zul0: what website you testing ur speeds with
[17:43] <Whiskey> http://codepad.org/ixNAd4cx
[17:43] <zul0> speetest dot net
[17:43] <ha1dfo> hi, I don't know if this is the appropriate channel, but I want to preseed debconf for mysql-server-5.1, but having trouble: I can see my vars in debconf db, but mysql still asks for root password
[17:43] <zul0> johnjacobjinger, i dont understand your question. sorry for my bad english xd
[17:43] <dagerik> zul0: speedtest.net?
[17:43] <zul0> yes dagerik
[17:43] <jrib> Whiskey: I don't think you can define 1 that way.  If you put "echo $1" in line 5, does it actually show what you expect for the contents of1?
[17:43] <zul0> an others similar webs..
[17:44] <johnjacobjinger> zul0: so u r testing with speedtest.net... ok  how different are the results zul0
[17:44] <dagerik> zul0: Works fine here. You must be mistaken.
[17:44] <Whiskey> qwll
[17:44] <jrib> Whiskey: there's probably a nicer way to accomplish what you actually want to accomplish, try #bash
[17:44] <Whiskey> well try run it, it errors on first line
[17:44] <zul0> in windows with wired connection i got 48-50 mbps
[17:45] <jrib> Whiskey: but you should state what you actually want to accomplish and neglect these specific questions you are asking about initially
[17:45] <zul0> in ubuntu my max speed was 10 mbps xd
[17:45] <Bunie> Kay time to install a new CD Drive.
[17:45] <Bunie> new/old
[17:45] <Bunie> be back later.
[17:45] <johnjacobjinger> zul0: maybe ur NIC is not functioning in full duplex
[17:45] <Bunie> ._.
[17:45] <FloodBot1> Bunie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:45] <mtrd`> zykotick9, doesn't seem to work, output file has no length
[17:46] <johnjacobjinger> zul0: are you in ubuntu right now?
[17:46] <Whiskey> jrib i told that allredy
[17:46] <dagerik> zul0: Maybe your ubuntu is using a wifi instead of wired. I am just guessin.g
[17:46] <zul0> johnjacobjinger, let me check my card model. i think it has 100mbps support
[17:46] <jrib> Whiskey: no, why do you want to create this script?
[17:46] <zul0> yes johnjacobjinger im now in ubuntu
[17:46] <johnjacobjinger> zu10 just cuz it supports it doesnt mean ubuntu is using it
[17:46] <zykotick9> ha1dfo: just a comment - mysql password and packages can certainly cause issues.  i have a package that has to reset the mysql user password everytime it updates - breaking the program in the process.  until i reset that password.  good luck.
[17:46] <zul0> dagerik, i check it. wifi adapter is disabled.
[17:47] <zykotick9> mtrd`: can mplayer play it?  "mplayer foo.xa"
[17:47] <johnjacobjinger> zul0: Are you using Ubuntu right now?
[17:47] <zul0> yes johnjacobjinger
[17:47] <johnjacobjinger> zul0: go to the terminal and type this:   dmesg | grep -i duplex
[17:47] <johnjacobjinger> then tell me what the output says zul0
[17:47] <zykotick9> mtrd`: i'm not familiar with xa so really have no idea of it's support.
[17:48] <mtrd`> it's Maxis file format, trying to get back up Sim City 3000 soundtrack
[17:48] <zul0> here is johnjacobjinger [ 1664.109737] atl1c 0000:06:00.0: atl1c: eth0 NIC Link is Up<1000 Mbps Full Duplex>
[17:48] <johnjacobjinger> hmmm well that isnt the issue then
[17:48] <johnjacobjinger> it's in full duplex
[17:49] <mtrd`> i'm confused because ffmpeg tells he can decode this format, but i might be missing something
[17:49] <AdvoWork> Hi there, i've just installed Ubuntu 11.10, and it asked me to install some drivers for the gfx card I think. That failed, and I rebooted, and basically ive logged in, and its come to a screen with just File, Edit, View, Go, Bookmarks etc, no menus and so forth. Any ideas please?
[17:49] <dagerik> zul0: If you have an 80 mbps line from your ISP, your theoretical max speed is 8 megabytes per second.
[17:50] <johnjacobjinger> dagerik: no it's 10mbps
[17:50] <johnjacobjinger> 10MBps
[17:50] <dagerik> johnjacobjinger: thaanks
[17:50] <zul0> MB
[17:50] <johnjacobjinger> dagerik: 8 bits in a byte
[17:51] <johnjacobjinger> however speedtest measures in Mbps
[17:51] <Whiskey> srib: <------------ http://codepad.org/iAzzyzKL ???? More clear?
[17:51] <mtrd`> does someone see something wrong in this line ? ffmpeg -i 3KD1.XA -target mp3 ./song1.mp3
[17:51] <Whiskey> jrib: <------------ http://codepad.org/iAzzyzKL ???? More clear?
[17:52] <zul0> i try too fixing any firefox issues with connection, but not work...
[17:52] <Whiskey> i jus use that way on the other stuff in the script two but then $var just have one argument and don´t need to be splitted
[17:52] <theadmin> Whiskey: This isn't syntaxically correct, you're not reading command output right...
[17:53] <zul0> i got firestarter installed but its off too..
[17:53] <Whiskey> so try to help be do it right :D
[17:53] <johnjacobjinger> zul0: hard to say what could cause the internet speed to test slower between OSes... maybe for some reason the speeds arent slower but speedtest is thinking it is
[17:53] <zykotick9> mtrd`: do verify your ffmpeg supports maxis (i'm sure yours does) you can run "ffmpeg -formats | grep -i maxis" [i think the D on the left means its Decode only].  ^ try "ffmpeg -i 3KD1.XA -o test.mp3"
[17:53] <theadmin> Whiskey: To read command output in a bash script, use $(command)
[17:53] <zul0> johnjacobjinger, maybe the cause is my driver?
[17:53] <johnjacobjinger> zul0: doubt it
[17:53] <johnjacobjinger> it looks like your nic is at full 1gbps full duplex
[17:53] <zykotick9> mtrd`: sorry the "-o" isn't required!
[17:53] <Whiskey> kk
[17:53] <mtrd`> zykotick9, already checked this, XA is here, with the D (demuxing) in the man
[17:54] <Whiskey> o don´t thnk that will help :D
[17:54] <mtrd`> i try your line
[17:54] <zykotick9> mtrd`: without -o
[17:54] <mtrd`> yes :)
[17:54] <Whiskey> it tells me that command not exist
[17:54] <Whiskey> for first line
[17:55] <zul0> johnjacobjinger, thanks for your help. maybe is my router...or something..xd
[17:55] <theadmin> Whiskey: Obviously, your first line is looking for a command called "grep -iq squeeze-backports ..."
[17:55] <mtrd`> zykotick9, still the same, no length :(
[17:55] <johnjacobjinger> zul0: doubt it.. the router doesnt care about OS... what kind of network card is it suppose to be in the computer?
[17:56] <zykotick9> mtrd`: does "ffplay 3KD1.XA" work?
[17:56] <Whiskey> yeh
[17:56] <Whiskey> its just text iit shuld not look for any command
[17:56] <Whiskey> i will just have it printed out as i show on the pastebin
[17:57] <Whiskey> It shuld just read it as text, not as command
[17:58] <theadmin> Whiskey: Do you want $1 to contain the rest of the entire line?
[17:58] <mtrd`> zykotick9, no... i'm wondering if my files are correct...
[17:58] <zul0> johnjacobjinger, here are the laptop speficications http://www.asus.com/Notebooks/Superior_Mobility/U50Vg/#specifications
[17:58] <llutz> Whiskey: how is that ubuntu-related? you have been told several times (here and in #debian) to ask in #bash for this
[17:58] <Whiskey> no
[17:59] <Whiskey> yeh
[17:59] <Whiskey> 1 shuld be enteri line
[17:59] <theadmin> Hm, actually llutz is right
[17:59] <theadmin> Whiskey: pm if you want, I can help you fix it I think
[17:59] <MonkeyDust> Whiskey  you're in the wrong channel
[17:59] <johnjacobjinger> zul0: looking now
[18:00] <johnjacobjinger> zul0: what does windows see the network card as...what driver does it use etc.
[18:00] <Bunie> Installed a new disk drive and burning ubuntu again! lol
[18:00] <llutz> Whiskey: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ  http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[18:00] <Whiskey> yeh yeh
[18:01] <zul0> johnjacobjinger, my driver is atl1c
[18:02] <johnjacobjinger> zul0: never heard of it... is this a realtek nic?
[18:02] <synaptix|ubuntu> Good afternoon #ubuntu :D
[18:03] <AdvoWork> in 11.10 how can i connect to server? ive just read: From the Desktop (or nautilus window) go to the File menu and select Connect to Server.    but what File Menu?
[18:04] <trism> AdvoWork: if you are in unity, the menu in the panel is hidden until you mouse over it, then you can go to File/Connect to Server
[18:04] <zykotick9> AdvoWork: a lot of the documentation hasn't caught up to unity
[18:05] <zul0> i dont know johnjacobjinger
[18:05] <ezoe> Help me. Ubuntu Live CD doesn't boot. message said something about "\sbin\modprobe" and "terminated by signal 9(killed)". any idea?
[18:06] <ezoe> either CD or USB flash, 32bit or 64bit.
[18:07] <andrea4546> ciao
[18:07] <andrea4546> !list
[18:08] <fede> When change the volume on my ubuntu it doesn't change the master channel but the other ones, producing a cliping sound. How can I change this?
[18:08] <MonkeyDust> fede  in a Terminal, type alsamixer, see if you find something
[18:08] <fede> I checked alsa mixer and that's what happens
[18:08] <zykotick9> why does ffmpeg/ffplay use a single - for multiletter options/switches?  seems like a bad convention to break</OT>
[18:09] <AdvoWork> trism, is that hover top left? if so nothing is appearing, it just states "Desktop"
[18:09] <trism> AdvoWork: make sure you open up a file browser first (such as clicking the home folder icon in the launcher)
[18:09] <fede> MonkeyDust: When I move the volume up or down it doesn't change the master channel
[18:09] <aykut> whois
[18:09] <AdvoWork> trism, ahh yeah that works, doh, I read it as do it the way you stated there OR hover, but now I see thankyou
[18:09] <itaylor57> zykotick9, the double dash is a newer standard, not all applications though have been upgraded but use the old one dash stype
[18:10] <MonkeyDust> fede  doesnt ring a bell (pun not intended)
[18:10] <Psychoactive> people please help me with this problem
[18:10] <Psychoactive> :/
[18:11] <sean__> join #pos
[18:11] <MonkeyDust> !ask| Psychoactive
[18:11] <Psychoactive> oh ok...
[18:11] <Psychoactive> so i have ircd ratbox
[18:11] <Psychoactive> and want to run at boot
[18:11] <Psychoactive> i have added full path to executable to /etc/rc.local
[18:12] <Psychoactive> chmod u+x
[18:12] <Psychoactive> but it does not start
[18:12] <Psychoactive> so?
[18:12] <Psychoactive> where is my error
[18:12] <k_5673> Psychoactive: what Display Manager are you using? KDE, GDM?
[18:12] <Psychoactive> colsole
[18:12] <Psychoactive> *console
[18:13] <Psychoactive> its a server pc
[18:13] <Pici> !enter | Psychoactive
[18:13] <Psychoactive> :/
[18:14] <k_5673> Psychoactive: Gimme a sec
[18:14] <anand> hello
[18:14] <Psychoactive> ok
[18:14] <fede> don't worry monkey, Anyone else have an idea?
[18:15] <anand> how to load a driver module at boot up time ??
[18:15] <llutz> anand: add it to /etc/modules
[18:15] <anand> llutz: syntax please??
[18:16] <llutz> anand: "modulename"
[18:16] <k_5673> Psychoactive: Have you tried to write a init script?
[18:16] <Psychoactive> no
[18:16] <Psychoactive> how i can write init script?
[18:17] <k_5673> Psychoactive: OK. Have you installed it from source?
[18:17] <Psychoactive> dont know its not on my pc
[18:17] <Psychoactive> i have remote access
[18:18] <anand> llutz: drivers are always loaded as a seperate module or can built into the kernel itself??
[18:18] <elijah> Ubuntu 11.10 - Gnome System Monitor at 20-40% of CPU usage. Is this normal?
[18:19] <st1> elijah unfortunately it is
[18:20] <bobo37773> Anyone know how to delete a port range with sed? Something like  " sed '/:23-25/d' ". It would surely save me a lot of headache
[18:20] <elijah> st1: thanks for confirming!
[18:21] <st1> elijah you can try "top" command if you just want to see cpu ram usage
[18:22] <phil_phys> #ubuntu-it
[18:23] <elijah> st1: Yeah, I use that and htop on occasion but sometimes the visual of the cpu graph to spot spikes is very nice
[18:24] <k_5673> Psychoactive: Can you tell me where the executable file is located?
[18:24] <Psychoactive> /home/teodor/ircd/bin/ircd
[18:24] <Psychoactive> here
[18:25] <k_5673> Psychoactive: So, the file is ircd?
[18:25] <Psychoactive> yes
[18:25] <k_5673> Psychoactive: Do you have write access to /etc/init.d ?
[18:25] <Psychoactive> yes
[18:25] <llutz> anand: can be both, check kernel-config for your specific module             "grep -i whatevermodulesitis /boot/config-$(uname -r)"
[18:25] <k_5673> Psychoactive: OK
[18:27] <anand> llutz: thanks
[18:27] <Pici> Psychoactive: Keep in mind that if you expect this to start at boot, that your user's home cannot be encrypted.
[18:28] <k_5673> Psychoactive: OK. Make a symlink to ircd in /usr/bin
[18:28] <Psychoactive> Pici, so if i put the executable or link to it in /usr/bin will work?
[18:28] <Psychoactive> ah k_5673 answered
[18:28] <Psychoactive> :)
[18:29] <k_5673> Psychoactive: Do you want to run it with some arguments?
[18:29] <Psychoactive> no
[18:29] <k_5673> Psychoactive: I'm writing you the script
[18:29] <Psychoactive> thanks
[18:29] <k_5673> Psychoactive: I will explain it to you
[18:29] <k_5673> Psychoactive: OK
[18:30] <oozbooz> any recommendation on NVIDIA card that support 4 monitors
[18:30] <elijah> oozbooz: what you said + on a mobile workstation!
[18:31] <elijah> oozbooz: Have you seen the multiple monitor work that is going into 12.04?
[18:31] <donal> i have one ubuntu machine that I've added lots of custom software repositories to, how can I copy these to another ubuntu machine
[18:31] <donal> in other words, in which file are the available software repositories stored?
[18:31] <zykotick9> !aptoncd | donal
[18:31] <donal> I only have command-line access so can't use that
[18:32] <donal> but thanks for the suggestion
[18:32] <oozbooz> eelijah: nope...
[18:34] <k_5673> Psychoactive: OK. I'll pastebin you the script
[18:34] <Psychoactive> ok
[18:34] <k_5673> Psychoactive: It must be located in /etc/init.d
[18:34] <zykotick9> donal: to answer your question - /etc/apt/sources.list (is the main repository list) and PPAs/3rd party should be found in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[18:35] <donal> thanks zyko
[18:35] <elijah> oozbooz: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/11/multi-monitor-support-to-improve-in-ubuntu-12-04-video/  &&  https://plus.google.com/100887841569748798697/posts/ACXJuCeQwEp
[18:35] <Skribe> has anyone ever had an issue connecting to xrdc after running x11vnc server?
[18:36] <zykotick9> donal: trying to move those files directly probably isn't the greatest idea.  it would be MUCH better just to know which repos/ppas you added and correctly add them to the other system.
[18:36] <leonel> leonel
[18:36] <techfreak> I am newbie in linux so an anybody please suggest a website or something to learn it deeply
[18:36] <oozbooz> elijah: thanks ...
[18:37] <k_5673> Psychoactive: http://pastebin.com/wxDtDBL5
[18:37] <k_5673> Psychoactive: Give it a try
[18:38] <Skribe> @techfreak, just messa round in lunux and when you have an issue, google it. takes FOREVER to master linux espcially if your from a windows backround
[18:38] <Psychoactive> so i just put this in /etc/init.d/ direktori with name ircd for example
[18:38] <Psychoactive> ?
[18:38] <ssta> techfreak: www.tldp.org, wiki.ubuntu.com, www.google.com (the first of those isn't as up to date as it could be, and the second is sometimes hard to navigate...the third usually bringss up the goods though)
[18:38] <elijah> oozbooz: I will tell you that you can order a Lenovo Thinkpad W520 with the option to have up to 3 external monitors plus the laptop active if you use the dock.  It is a 3k plus workstation by the time it is configured nicely though!
[18:38] <k_5673> Psychoactive: yes
[18:38] <techfreak> Skribe: thanks
[18:39] <elijah> oozbooz: I just wish they made it in touchscreen and I would definitely get it!
[18:39] <Psychoactive> k_5673, thanks bro
[18:39] <k_5673> Psychoactive: Then, try executing /etc/init.d/ratbox restart
[18:39] <Psychoactive> i will try later because i dont have acc to the pc right now
[18:39] <techfreak> Thank you ssta:
[18:40] <elijah> Where do I configure the amount of workspaces I have?
[18:41] <st1> elijah:  ccsm general options
[18:42] <Italian_Plumber> What is the last version of Ubuntu to use Gnome?
[18:42] <st1> how I wish unity can do it dynamically like gnome shell
[18:42] <milen8204> !nounity Italian_Plumber
[18:42] <st1> Italian_Plumber:  ?? it's still gnome, if you mean gnome 2 that's natty 11.04
[18:43] <elijah> st1: Thanks, that would have taken me a while to find that! Hopefully they will merge some of ccsm with system settings!
[18:43] <milen8204> Italian_Plumber, if you mean only gnome (without Unity) I think 10.10
[18:44] <zykotick9> Italian_Plumber: Gnome2 is dead - find a new DE, xfce is a popular substitution with the gnome2 crowd.
[18:44] <Italian_Plumber> what was Lucid?
[18:44] <zykotick9> !lucid
[18:44] <MonkeyDust> gnome-classic is very much like gnome2
[18:44] <zykotick9> Italian_Plumber: it was gnome2
[18:45] <zykotick9> s/was/is/
[18:45] <elijah> Is it possible to configure compiz/unity to have KDE like behavior when moving a window to the screen edge where it will resize to the corner? KDE would do corners and left/right regions whereas Unity is only doing left/right regions
[18:45] <Italian_Plumber> ok thanks for your help
[18:46] <ric_> Hey all and a good evening, anyone here that can help me out ? :)
[18:47] <danielcg25> Is "Desktop Sharing" just VNC?
[18:47] <rbrooks> mainly
[18:47] <CalicoJack> danielcg25, yep
[18:48] <st1> elijah  you can try ctrl+alt+1  or 3 or 7 or 9 , that will resize the windows to four corners, I don't know if this is the behavior you're looking for
[18:48] <danielcg25> Ok, cool. What ports do I need to open on my router to use VNC over the internet?
[18:48] <rbrooks> woah there
[18:48] <MonkeyDust> 5900
[18:48] <st1> if that's the case, maybe you can then map hot corner to keyboard shortcut
[18:48] <rbrooks> lol
[18:49] <elijah> st1: That works for now! Do you know what that "feature" is called so I can research it more?
[18:49] <Bunie> kay guys i got ubuntu installed
[18:49] <ric_> Does anyone know where the errno 5 comes from while installing ubuntu, also tried to put off ACPI but I can't get it off it just gives me an error in the boot promp
[18:49] <Bunie> i forget, how do i force the grub menu to appear? hold shift?
[18:49] <elijah> st1: It is really nice to be able to take my cli windows and throw them into corners
[18:49] <CalicoJack> danielcg25, http://faq.gotomyvnc.com/fom-serve/cache/52.html
[18:49] <zykotick9> Bunie: with gnome2, yes - HOLD shift
[18:50] <Bunie> Yessir, will try that. :D
[18:50] <zykotick9> s/gnome2/grub2/
[18:50] <CalicoJack> actually, this page is probably more useful danielcg25 http://faq.gotomyvnc.com/cgi-bin/fom?_recurse=1&file=63
[18:50] <danielcg25> thanks
[18:50] <st1> elijah you could probably search "linux/gnome shortcut", it works with all the number keys
[18:51] <st1> if that works for you, you can install xdotool, then map hot corner to those shortcuts, I haven't tried but I think it would work
[18:51] <Bunie> zykotick9: Windows isnt listed (i had the windows partition encrypted so it wasnt detected) how would i add it to grub?
[18:52] <zykotick9> Bunie: sorry some else has to help you with that.  (i'm adding you to /ignore, so don't both including me in replies - i won't see them)
[18:52] <ric_> Anyone familiar with the "errno 5"  In/out put error, while installing Ubuntu ?
[18:53] <Bunie> Ignoring me? Thats a bit harsh XD
[18:54] <MonkeyDust> Bunie  you can add the windows chainloader
[18:54] <fede> is there a way to restrict pcm channel to 80% by default?
[18:55] <ric_> Looking for help with the errno 5 error while installing. TIA
[18:56] <MonkeyDust> Bunie  maybe this link helps http://members.iinet.net/~herman546/p20/GRUB2%20Configuration%20File%20Commands.html#chainloader_boot_entry
[18:57] <Bunie> i found some nice results googling it. ^^
[18:59] <sunropid> Hello I formatted a partition by mistake (ext3 to ext4), and i have not touched it since then. how can i recover it?
[19:00] <zykotick9> !info testdisk | sunropid one option
[19:00] <MonkeyDust> sunropid  and installed ubuntu on it?
[19:00] <MonkeyDust> or not yet?
[19:00] <sunropid> MonkeyDust, no
[19:01] <MonkeyDust> sunropid  ok, then use the live cd or pendrive, use gparted and format to ext4
[19:02] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: am i missing something?  sunropid said "how can i recover it?" and your suggestion is format the partition?
[19:02] <sunropid> MonkeyDust, I used  mkfs.ext4
[19:03] <MonkeyDust> zykotick9  do you want to recover data on the partition?
[19:03] <zykotick9> sunropid: ^
[19:03] <sunropid> MonkeyDust, yes
[19:03] <MonkeyDust> zykotick9  wrong nick, sorry ;)
[19:04] <ric_> Someone out here that knows a possible solution to the errno 5 error while installing ubuntu ?
[19:04] <MonkeyDust> sunropid  then follow zykotick9 's advice, testdisk to recover lost data
[19:05] <Bunie> in terminal ^ = Ctrl, yes?/
[19:05] <MonkeyDust> zykotick9  i misunderstood, because sunropid didnt say he put files on the partition, after formatting
[19:06] <zykotick9> sunropid: testdisk is only one option, there is a ddrescue or something that i've seen suggested.  photorec (part of testdisk) has saved files for me, but i've not personally had the greatest luck recovering partitions with testdisk.
[19:06] <Bunie> :(
[19:06] <Bunie> i typed something up from a tutorial in a program called Nano and now they say "save"... how XD
[19:07] <MonkeyDust> Bunie  try ctrl-o to save
[19:07] <Bunie> thanks :D
[19:08] <tran4> I'm a senior CS undergrad. student.  I applied directly to a company for these co-op and intern positions: http://pastebin.com/LdAH6eaZ  Are they worth doing?  I have no reply from the company but did get contacted by a recruiter whose ad I also applied to (the ad didnt say he was a recruiter) who wants to talk to me about the co-op position. Should i respond to him? The recruiter's ad has $14 / hr listed. The other legit ad that had a li
[19:08] <vijaym> Hello....is there any Gsoc ideas proposed by Ubuntu community ?
[19:08] <Osleg> hello, i have installed ubuntu 12.04 with gnme-shell and now trying to make shell to work, i have VIA Chrome 9HC vga card, glxinfo says the Direct Rendering enabled but gnome strts in fallback mode, any assist would be grateful
[19:08] <MonkeyDust> tran4  wrong channel
[19:08] <zykotick9> Osleg: reask in #ubuntu+1
[19:08] <Osleg> heh what does +1 mean? :)
[19:08] <szal> next version
[19:09] <MonkeyDust> Osleg  +1 is the next version
[19:09] <zykotick9> Osleg: alpha/beta - pre-release - development vesrion
[19:09] <Osleg> ok tnx :)
[19:10] <jeggy> Hey
[19:11] <jeggy> is there anyone that could help me with finding out what graphic card i have?
[19:11] <vijaym> Having problem with laptop...its getting over heated when i switch on to ubuntu...and it does not happen if i switch over to windows ? why is that ? :)
[19:11] <ric_> Can anyone see my text ? ^^
[19:11] <zykotick9> jeggy: "lspci | grep -i vga" might work
[19:11] <jeggy> I haven't installed the driver
[19:12] <zykotick9> jeggy: that reports the PCI hardware, driver not required
[19:12] <MonkeyDust> jeggy  try lshw -html > hardware.html
[19:13] <jeggy> it says "2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller"
[19:13] <vijaym> how do i resolve...overheating of my laptop in ubuntu ?
[19:13] <jeggy> but i believe its something NVidia Geforce
[19:14] <root________> vijaym, is it a newer system?
[19:14] <donsd> Do I have to know filesystem on a hard drive to mount it?
[19:14] <vijaym> ya...Sony viao laptop !
[19:14] <MonkeyDust> donsd  in fstab, yes
[19:14] <zykotick9> jeggy: is this a hybrid intel/nvidia thing?  research ... oh damb.  bee something?  anyone???
[19:14] <vijaym> ubuntu 11.10 is the version of
[19:14] <root________> donsd, sudo mount /dev/sd?? /mnt should work.
[19:14] <vijaym> os
i have installed ubuntu 11.10
[19:15] <root________> vijaym, sounds like the linux power saving drivers haven't been updated to properly support your system.  try installing cpufreq-utils and run "cpufreq-set -g ondemand", that might help some.
[19:16] <zykotick9> root________: that nic is really anoying
[19:16] <root________> vijaym, what you're describing is common on newer hardware.  It's nothing to worry about, and should vastly improve with a near future release.
[19:16] <jeggy> i don't know much about graphics and drivers, but dual screens doesn't work
[19:16] <root________> zykotick9, so is yours :)
[19:16] <donsd> root________, MonkeyDust, thanks.
[19:16] <swcdx> :)
[19:17] <MonkeyDust> root________  at least don't use the underscores, it's easier to read
[19:17] <root________> MonkeyDust, I don't have the nick registered without the ________ :)
[19:17] <MonkeyDust> root________  then please do
 : thanks alot...but now, it becomes harder to use my laptop...and it burns like a fire :( !
 : "cpufreq-set -g ondemand" what does this function do...basically ? :)
[19:20] <donsd> root________, your command worked. Thank you.
 : because its asking for root password !
[19:20] <root________> vijaym, it tells your computer to slow the processor down when it's not needed, and speed it up again when you try to do something that requires the CPU.
[19:20] <luisr> i have  ? i installed some apps on chromium for youtube or scripts now i cant get rid of them they make youtube all stupid anybody know how to fix this
[19:22] <Sheyker> test text
[19:22] <MonkeyDust> luisr  i use chromium -- click the tool symbol, top right -- then 'Tools' again
[19:22] <root________> Sheyker, error: test failed.
[19:22] <zykotick9> jeggy: bumblebee is the name of the one of the options for hybrid graphics.  i guess "lspci -v | grep -i vga" will show both the Intel and nvidia cards.  this is one link (probably a good idea to look for others) http://askubuntu.com/questions/15694/how-do-i-disable-intel-graphics-in-a-hybrid-graphics-setup  Good luck.
[19:22] <Sheyker> hello
[19:23] <jeggy> thanks gonna try that :D
[19:23] <luisr> i have  ? i installed some apps on chromium for youtube or scripts now i cant get rid of them they make youtube all stupid anybody know how to fix this
[19:23] <MonkeyDust> luisr  i use chromium -- click the tool symbol, top right -- then 'Tools' again
[19:24] <Sheyker> i haven't  idea
[19:29] <DanC> how do I change my printer's driver in Ubuntu 12.04beta? (see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=661866 )
[19:30] <auronandace> !12.04 | DanC
[19:30] <DanC> tx, auronandace
[19:31] <LiNuX`sup> I'm seeing 32 bit ubuntu as recommended download. Is it because it's more stable than the 64 bit? I'm dual booting a mac with a core 2 duo which has 64bit technology. I'm reinstalling due to not being able to get gnome3 working properly and would like to install the best option being I have to go through all of this. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
[19:31] <zloeYXO> добрый вечер
[19:32] <crizzy> LiNuX`sup: there's no reason to go for 32bit nowadays
[19:32] <waxstone> !ru| zloeYXO
[19:32] <ShooterMG> I seem to be having some kind of monitor/resolution problem. whenever I boot up ubuntu, I see my bios splash screen, but then it goes away and i get an "out of range" prompt on my monitor. I can still ssh into the box and run whatever I want, other than X of course
[19:32] <ShooterMG> how could i fix this? what tool might i be able to use?
[19:33] <cleansoul> hi
[19:33] <johnjacobjinger> ShooterMG: looks like ur xorg is screwed up
[19:33] <johnjacobjinger> or wat ever they call it now
[19:33] <ShooterMG> i looked at xorg, and it was missing resolutions, so i added a few. but maybe the refresh rate is wrong
[19:33] <LiNuX`sup> export $DISPLAY=: 0
[19:33] <auronandace> LiNuX`sup: its only "recommended" because 32bit works on both 32 and 64
[19:34] <LiNuX`sup> auronandace: so I should have no issues with 64 if I have a 64bit cpu?
[19:34] <LiNuX`sup> compatibility wise?
[19:34] <auronandace> LiNuX`sup: not really, i've used 64bit for years, no issues here
[19:35] <LiNuX`sup> great, good news... thanks auronandace
[19:35] <louder> elijah: just found the grid plugin in Ccsm allows you to resize windows throwing them to corners in different sizes ( half-left, top-half-left, for example)
[19:35] <auronandace> LiNuX`sup: you using anything 32bit specific?
[19:36] <johnjacobjinger> i had issues back in the day when 64-bit ubuntu JUST came out
[19:36] <LiNuX`sup> I use scribus, inkscape, gimp mostly... the rest is all web
[19:36] <auronandace> LiNuX`sup: good
[19:37] <johnjacobjinger> LiNuX`sup: do u have more than 4GB of RAM?
[19:38] <mikey_> Hi, I'm having a shot a installing yacy (not in the repos) but I thought I'd see if this list of packages seemed a but redundant to you? "  default-jre default-jre-headless icedtea-6-jre-cacao
[19:38] <mikey_>   icedtea-6-jre-jamvm icedtea-netx libaccess-bridge-java
[19:38] <mikey_>   libaccess-bridge-java-jni libasound2 libasyncns0 libflac8 libgif4
[19:38] <mikey_>   libjson0 liblcms1 libogg0 libpulse0 libsndfile1 libvorbis0a
[19:38] <mikey_>   libvorbisenc2 libxi6 libxtst6 openjdk-6-jre
[19:38] <mikey_>   openjdk-6-jre-headless openjdk-6-jre-lib x11-common yacy
[19:38] <FloodBot1> mikey_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:38] <mikey_> Woopse sorry thought that'd be one line
[19:39] <dschlittler1> Does anyone know why remmina wouldn't display the RDP plugin? I have installed the plugin through the synaptic package manager, but regardless the application doesn't show RDP as a supported plugin.
[19:40] <LiNuX`sup> johnjacobjinger: I do not have more than 4gb
[19:40] <LiNuX`sup> unfortunately I only have 2gb
[19:41] <zykotick9> LiNuX`sup: using 32bit with less then 4GB will actually leave you with MORE available RAM.  Unless your doing encoding, you probably won't get much benefit from 64bit.  I'd suggest you use 32bit, or upgrade your RAM to >4GB.
[19:42] <LiNuX`sup> thnks for the valid info, I'll just cancel the download as it's a company computer and my boss isn't one to upgrade
[19:43] <area51pilot> Im running 12.04 w/ Unity and the Udate Manager keeps listing about 4 Distribution updates having to do w Gnome ... they arent avail for install? anyone know why or how to stop puling these updates?
[19:43] <Pici> area51pilot : Precise/12.04 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[19:43] <area51pilot> thx Pici
[19:44] <donal> i'm having trouble with mysql permissions - i tried in the mysql room, but I keep getting a "cannot send to channel" message there
[19:44] <donal> does anyone here know about mysql ?
[19:44] <dschlittler1> Does anyone know why remmina wouldn't display the RDP plugin? I have installed the plugin through the synaptic package manager, but regardless the application doesn't show RDP as a supported plugin.
[19:46] <pezmanlou> what up
[19:46] <zykotick9> donal: i'm guessing you need to register to send in #mysql?  see "/msg ubottu register" for details.
[19:48] <dschlittler1> Does anyone know why remmina wouldn't display the RDP plugin? I have installed the plugin through the synaptic package manager, but regardless the application doesn't show RDP as a supported plugin.
[19:50] <yumbo> Hi, how can I remove the tray icon bar at the bottom right in Gnome Shell?
[19:51] <Benkinooby> !windows
[19:51] <bittin> !WINDOWS
[19:52] <crizzy> i find bug #1 to be very trollish
[19:52] <Skribe> anyone know a script for having a drive automount at start up?
[19:53] <yumbo> Skribe, just add the drive in /etc/fstab
[19:53] <Skribe> wicked, thanks yumbo. ill look into it. : )
[19:53] <yumbo> Skribe, find the UUID of the drive by doing "sudo blkid", then add the drive in the /etc/fstab file via "sudo nano /etc/fstab"
[19:54] <dschlittler1> Does anyone know why remmina wouldn't display the RDP plugin? I have installed the plugin through the synaptic package manager, but regardless the application doesn't show RDP as a supported plugin.
[19:54] <Benkinooby> crizzy, trollish... but true :P
[19:54] <yumbo> Skribe, you usually want a line like: UUID=4a9c08ab-5a45-4235-8795-7d1fa280a16e /media/disk1/backup ext4 defaults 0 2
[19:54] <Skribe> rgr that, on it now
[19:54] <donal> I'm trying to reinstall mysql, I started by running "apt-get remove mysql-server" but it still seems to be there
[19:55] <yumbo> donal, did you do sudo apt-get remove --purge mysql-server ?
[19:55] <zykotick9> donal: the config files will be.  use purge to remove the configs as well.
[19:55] <dj_who> hi all i have a problem with one thin:  echo ${mythcutlist#1-}
[19:55] <dj_who> in console is working but in script it echos a full uncutted string
[19:56] <yumbo> dj_who, I think #bash will be better to ask
[19:56] <dj_who> why? any one can help
[19:57]  * zykotick9 was suprised by !purge factoid - not what i was expecting but very handy.
[19:57] <vijaym> hello...How to decrease my screen brightness...i am using sony vaio laptop!
[19:57] <zykotick9> !purge
[19:58] <ivano> salve
[19:58] <ivano> <!list
[19:58] <ivano> !list
[19:59] <vijaym> hello...How to decrease my screen brightness...i am using sony vaio laptop...brightness control option is not working :( !
[19:59] <yumbo> vijaym, be patient, someone will notice and might answer if they know the solution
[20:00] <roasted> Does anybody know a way to automatically wake an Ubuntu system from suspend mode?
[20:00] <nagarjuna> hi can someone tell me how to completly uninstall kubuntu-desktop..
[20:01] <scottj> it appears xmodmap changes have to be rerun everytime a keyboard is plugged in. is there a way to trigger this automatically?
[20:02] <donal> sorry, I think I may have missed the previous instructions
[20:02] <donal> I want to completely remove mysql
[20:02] <donal> the server, the client, the configuration files, *everything*
[20:02] <nagarjuna>  can someone tell me how to completly uninstall kubuntu-desktop..
[20:03] <tanin> Can someon help with samsung device that shows at login then won't be scene in the desktop?  A point in right direction would be great
[20:03] <zykotick9> nagarjuna: do you want to replace it with one other DE?  see "/msg ubottu puregnome" and purexfce, purgelxde type thing.
[20:03] <vijaym> nagarjuna : try sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[20:03] <vijaym> nagarjuna : try "sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop"
[20:03] <donal> I tried "apt-get remove --purge mysql-server" but it seems to still be there
[20:03] <nagarjuna> yes i installed it in ubuntu 11.10. now i want to get back ubuntu
[20:04] <vijaym> nagarjuna : try "sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop" in ubuntu
[20:04] <nagarjuna> vijaym: can i get my ubuntu desktop if i use that command
[20:04] <mikey_> OK, this time with pastebin.
[20:04] <vijaym> nagarjuna : yes :)
[20:04] <zykotick9> donal: what does it say (two letters) on the left side of "dpkg -l | grep mysql-server"?
[20:05] <mikey_> Can anyone tell me why this package is pulling in so many dependencies when I have opensdk-headless installed http://paste.ubuntu.com/882268/
[20:05] <nagarjuna> ok
[20:07] <mikey_> Sorry that's openjdk-7-jre-headless
[20:08] <roasted> in most cases, do system BIOS's support automatically waking the system up at a specified time?
[20:08] <roasted> er
[20:08] <roasted> wrong up arrow comment...
[20:08] <roasted> Does anybody know a way to automatically wake an Ubuntu system from suspend mode?
[20:08] <Xabster> not sure what you mean
[20:09] <roasted> Xabster: directed at me?
[20:09] <Xabster> you mean like install something that wakes it up at specific time?
[20:09] <roasted> Xabster: well, sure.
[20:09] <roasted> Xabster: just anything to get a suspended ubuntu instance to wake up on a schedule
[20:09] <Xabster> hmm
[20:10] <roasted> Xabster: maybe have my file server turn on at 5pm and run for 5 hours and shut off via cron, instead of running 247 when it'll  never be utilized during the day or late at night
[20:10] <Xabster> yeah, i get the idea
[20:10] <roasted> Xabster: I can do it with the bios, having the bios turn it on automatically and have cron shut it off, but I began to wonder if instead of powering it off if I can just suspend it... I'm  not sure if the bios power-on trigger will wake up a suspended system, though.
[20:11] <Xabster> i dont think it will
[20:12] <roasted> Xabster: only downside is, I'm not sur ehow common of a feature that bios power on thing is. I'm not sure if its on the majority of BIOS's out there or what.
[20:12] <Xabster> i think it is
[20:12] <Xabster> same with wake on lan
[20:12] <roasted> Xabster: it's not on my laptop here, but it's also a laptop.
[20:12] <roasted> Xabster: I would think self power on features for a laptop would be less desired
[20:13] <Xabster> that might be true, do you know the model?
[20:13] <roasted> Xabster: of my laptop?
[20:13] <Skribe> anyone have a script that would auto launch x11vnc server?
[20:13] <Xabster> yeah
[20:13] <roasted> Xabster: Lenovo X120e
[20:13] <Skribe> sry about that guys
[20:14] <joeko> when I maximise then minimise my gnome-terminal window i lose the border to resize it how could I fix/debug this?
[20:14] <Benkinooby> roasted, http://www.osnews.com/story/24111/Wake_Your_Linux_Up_From_Sleep_for_a_Cron_Job
[20:14] <roasted> Xabster: looks like its common. forum post from 2007 - Virtually all modern PCs have a feature in the BIOS to turn the PC on at a scheduled time, so most likely this tip will apply to you.
[20:15] <Xabster> to me? :)
[20:15] <roasted> Benkinooby: hmmmm.... thank you, I'll look into this
[20:15] <Xabster> but yes, it's really really normal
[20:15] <Iceheart> ok I have a question for you guys, I'm trying to reformat a laptop that already has ubuntu 11.10
[20:15] <Xabster> that's from sleep... suspend and sleep are not the same
[20:15] <Iceheart> I made a boot disk with a fresh copy of 11.10 on it
[20:15] <auronandace> joeko: compiz --replace
[20:15] <Iceheart> But the laptop wont boot to the disk
[20:15]  * JoeK slaps auronandace around a bit with a large trout
[20:15] <Benkinooby> roasted, i'm not sure but i think i used that article to automatically wake up my system
[20:15] <Skribe> sounds like you didnt burn the image correctly
[20:16] <Iceheart> Would currently already having 11.10 cause the system not to boot to the disk with 11.10?
[20:16] <roasted> Benkinooby: my file system bios may support automatic turn on via bios, which if it does, I'm okay. I'm just googling for a plan B just in case.
[20:16] <roasted> Benkinooby: my parents file server I set up for them supports it, and it's aroun dthe same era computer (both are pentium dual cores)
[20:16] <Iceheart> The burn appears to be ok, I made it using the same process I made the original disk when I first installed linux 11.04
[20:16] <Skribe> Ice: not likely. try to burn the image again
[20:16] <Benkinooby> roasted, ah, ok
[20:16] <Iceheart> It isn't just a copy of the ISO on the disk, it's an actual img burn.
[20:16] <vijaym> hello...How to decrease my screen brightness...i am using sony vaio laptop...brightness control option is not working :( !
[20:16] <roasted> Benkinooby: that way I can have the file servers running during the time frame their backup software will run... so that way my parents arent paying the electric bill for a pc running 247 that is only utilized 1 hour a day
[20:17] <roasted> Benkinooby: granted, if its running idle, it may not eat a lot of power, but a little power is still more than no power. :P
[20:17] <lion42> Iceheart, are you sure the laptop is set to boot from CD before HDD?
[20:17] <Iceheart> I've also set the bios to boot to disk, and even told the computer to temporarily boot to disk
[20:17] <lion42> If the boot order is different, it will boot strait to HD.
[20:17] <Iceheart> Currently the hdd is at the bottom of the boot list.
[20:18] <lion42> Then I agree, Iceheart. You should try to burn the disc again.
[20:18] <Skribe> if its an old laptop, clean the drive bay with some compressed air.
[20:18] <Iceheart> It's actually the 6th disk
[20:18] <lion42> Oh, wow.
[20:18] <Benkinooby> lol
[20:18] <Benkinooby> sorry
[20:18] <Skribe> had that issue with one of my win machines
[20:18] <Iceheart> Using two different downloads of the iso
[20:18] <Iceheart> both 32bit and 64bit
[20:18] <lion42> ...that was the next step I was going to recommend.
[20:18] <lion42> Do you have access to a USB stick?
[20:18] <Skribe> it really sounds like he isnt mounting the image correctly
[20:18] <Iceheart> Not one large enough.
[20:19] <lion42> Skribe, if he's done it before and is following the instructions...
[20:19] <Skribe> true
[20:19] <Skribe> never know
[20:19] <Iceheart> The image appears to mount correctly, when I open the disk it looks very similar to the image provided on ubuntus website
[20:19] <Skribe> start from the bottom ya know...
[20:20] <Xabster> roasted: http://blog.gulfsoft.com/2010/05/scheduled-wakeup-in-ubuntu.html
[20:20] <Xabster> maybe that helps
[20:20] <Iceheart> I've also put one of the disks into a different laptop and it tried to boot to the disk
[20:20] <Skribe> and?
[20:20] <Iceheart> Which it did try to but didn't fully boot, which I suspect is because of the laptop being an old crusty gateway
[20:20] <Iceheart> that half the keys don't work on.
[20:21] <Iceheart> The menu came up to boot to the disk it just didn't fully boot up
[20:21] <lion42> Iceheart, what I would try at that point would be obtaining a USB stick and using that.
[20:21] <Iceheart> But this laptop won't even attempt to boot the disk
[20:21] <Skribe> that might be the issue right there. if you have an external dvd/cd burner, that would help with the install if the dvd/cd drive is dead
[20:21] <Iceheart> I don't have access to a 2gig usb stick which it recommends.
[20:22] <Skribe> agree with lion, bootable usb install is the best and fastest way to get er done
[20:22] <lion42> I mean that I would buy one, if I didn't have one.
[20:23] <iceheart_> Lost connection to the chat =/
[20:23] <Skribe_> same
[20:24] <iceheart_> anyway theres no way already having 11.10 would cause the laptop not to boot to a disk of 11.10?
[20:24] <iceheart_> Take that as a no? lol
[20:24] <Skribe_> none that i can think of.
[20:25] <iceheart_> hmm
[20:25] <iceheart_> Well that sucks, it's my only computer atm.
[20:25] <Skribe_> im not an expert in linux, but in the hand full of installs ive done, never had an issue with an existing OS
[20:25] <iceheart_> I swear once I get it working I'm never restarting it again lol
[20:25] <Skribe_> ouch
[20:26] <iceheart_> All the problems started after I restarted it lol
[20:26] <iceheart_> It still works...sort of I'm actually on it right now
[20:26] <iceheart_> I just can't access any of my files or folders
[20:26] <Skribe_> im sure its a cd/dvd drive issue. can you play an audio cd?
[20:27] <Skribe_> and have it workj without messing up or skipping?
[20:27] <iceheart_> Well I can try an audio cd, if it will autoplay
[20:27] <iceheart_> but if it wont autoplay then theres no way of knowing
[20:27] <Skribe_> go for it, best way to test it
[20:27] <dschlittler1> Does anyone know why remmina wouldn't display the RDP plugin? I have installed the plugin through the synaptic package manager, but regardless the application doesn't show RDP as a supported plugin.
[20:27] <iceheart_> I don't have any more cds either, gonna have to go make one
[20:27] <Skribe_> : P
[20:28] <iceheart_> Curse you cds for being obsolete, causing me to throw you away and keep music on my phone!
, just use x11vnc server and connect that way. I had some issues with Remmina while ago along the same line.....
[20:30] <vijaym> hello...How to decrease my screen brightness...i am using sony vaio laptop...brightness control option is not working :( !
[20:31] <iceheart_> the control option for screen brightness should work on any computer..
[20:31] <Skribe_> vijaym, more then likely its a driver issue that wont let you use your hotkeys on your laptop
[20:32] <iceheart_> Found a cd ^^
[20:32] <MonkeyDust> \o/
[20:32] <vijaym> Skribe : Driver issue...can i correct it ?
[20:32] <phoenix_firebrd> what is the output driver i have to select to use the hardware accelerated video playback in mplayer. I am using my onboard intel graphics accelerator x4500 .
[20:33] <iceheart_> gotta restart though for it to recognize a cd
[20:33] <iceheart_> brb
[20:37] <danileigh79> I dl'd a video codec in Ubuntu, now causing all sorts of aps to show up in places, can't find it to uninstall it, any suggestions?
[20:37] <danileigh79> *ads
[20:37] <tyler_> hello
[20:37] <sean_> s
[20:37] <tyler_> how to move applets on the panel in ubuntu 12.04?
[20:38] <danileigh79> !ubuntu+1 | tyler
[20:38] <danileigh79> !ubuntu+1 | tyler_
[20:39] <iceheart> Well the good news is the audo cd appears to play just fine
[20:39] <iceheart> Bad news is that leaves me out of ideas again lol
[20:39] <iceheart> Any other ideas guys?
[20:40] <danileigh79> iceheart: what's the issue?
[20:40] <iceheart> got a laptop running ubuntu 11.10
[20:40] <iceheart> trying to reformat it using a boot disk of 11.10
[20:40] <iceheart> Won't boot to the disk
[20:40] <iceheart> Did an img burn, disk appears to be ok
[20:40] <danileigh79> Can you make a liveusb version?
[20:40] <iceheart> It burned properly
[20:40] <iceheart> I don't have a usb that can do it
[20:40] <iceheart> and currently lack the funds for a usb
[20:41] <iceheart> I need a 2gig, biggest I got is a 256mb
[20:41] <danileigh79> iceheart: Hmmm, not sure... have you checked bios settings to make CD first boot device?
[20:41] <SyL> is there a direct alternative for rc.status?
[20:41] <iceheart> yes
[20:41] <iceheart> Cd is the top boot priority
[20:41] <lion42> iceheart, you should be able to get one for all of 10usd....
[20:41] <iceheart> Even used the laptops temporary boot function
[20:41] <lion42> 5, sometimes even.
[20:42] <iceheart> I'm eating ramen noodles right now lion. lol
[20:42] <danileigh79> lion42: I know iceheart's position, I have no job, my roommate pays for everything
[20:42] <lion42> If you're a student, borrow one from a friend?
[20:42] <iceheart> Currently on spring break
[20:42] <iceheart> but yes I am a college student lol
[20:42] <Bunie> is it possible to use bootsect on windows without killing grub?
[20:43] <iceheart> So only other option is trying a usb then?
[20:44] <danileigh79> iceheart: do you have blank dvd? Try making a bootable LiveCD/DVD
[20:44] <danileigh79> iceheart: instead of an install only disc
[20:44] <elijah> louder: thanks, that is perfect!
[20:44] <zack-brennan> i am using Uberstudent, a derivative of 10.04 ubuntu. i need to install the drivers for my wlan card, but am unable to do so on the computer itself. can someone help?
[20:44] <iceheart> I don't have any dvds atm
[20:44] <iceheart> but I've booted from cds before
[20:44] <lion42> iceheart, why is a reinstall required?
[20:44] <dschlittler1> Does anyone know why remmina wouldn't display the RDP plugin? I have installed the plugin through the synaptic package manager, but regardless the application doesn't show RDP as a supported plugin.
[20:45] <danileigh79> iceheart: What happens when you launch liveCD, then choose install
[20:45] <iceheart> Because from whta I was told last night, my hdd is corrupted.
[20:45] <senior75151> does 9.04 since it reached the end of life
[20:45] <senior75151> how to update remotely ?
[20:45] <iceheart> It won't launch the cd danil
[20:45] <lion42> iceheart, corrupted how?
[20:45] <iceheart> The whole problem is I can't access any of my files or folders
[20:45] <iceheart> clicking them just causes the system to lock up for a second
[20:45] <danileigh79> iceheart: Hmmm, I honestly don't know then, the only other thing I could recommend is LiveUSB
[20:45] <Bunie> iceheart: is your CD set to boot?
[20:46] <iceheart> yes it is bunie
[20:46] <senior75151> how do I get access to the 9.04 copy of the repositories to update a 9.04 box to 11.04 ? any tips ?
[20:46] <lion42> Bunie, yes, he said he has already gone through those steps.
[20:46] <Bunie> ah i just got here lols
[20:46] <danileigh79> zack-brennan: Make of your wireless card?
[20:46] <glebihan> !eol | senior75151
[20:46] <iceheart> I was told it's a problem with natty
[20:46] <Bunie> how  did you burn the CD, iceheart
[20:46] <Thebourbonkid> hi everybody
[20:46] <zack-brennan> realtek 8178, it is supposed to use the rtl8a88ce driver
[20:46] <iceheart> I burned the cd the same way I did for 11.04 using imgburn
[20:46] <Guest71506> hi
[20:46] <senior75151> ubottu: thanks. WIll look into it.
[20:46] <lion42> iceheart, have you tried to run the upgrade function within ubuntu, and did it help?
[20:46] <zack-brennan> rtl8188ce, i mean. i found this out from an ubuntu forum
[20:47] <danileigh79> iceheart: try finding a windows machine to make the disc, if that doesn't work, then USB is the only thing I can think of
[20:47] <iceheart> It is already upgraded to 11.10
[20:47] <iceheart> I made the disk using a seperate windows machine
[20:47] <danileigh79> zack-brennan: not sure then, did you try mod probing it?
[20:47] <iceheart> I can't do anything on this laptop short of open firefox
[20:47] <iceheart> Much less make a boot disk lol
[20:47] <zack-brennan> what is mod probing?
[20:47] <lion42> iceheart, but you have another functional computer until you return to school?
[20:48] <iceheart> Not atm, of my 3 computers this is the only laptop
[20:48] <danileigh79> iceheart: ... I'm sorry then hun, I'd use USB when you get a chance
[20:48] <iceheart> and the only one functioning atm
[20:48] <iceheart> Other two towers have...their own problems.
[20:48] <lion42> iceheart, I said functional computer, not laptop. :P
[20:48] <iceheart> Same difference, other two computers are down atm.
[20:48] <danileigh79> zack-brennan: Install the driver, then sudo modprob whatever the driver's name is
[20:48] <zack-brennan> i CANT install the driver
[20:48] <iceheart> One overheated during the upgrade to 11.10 causing it to well..crash
[20:49] <iceheart> the other is an old turd =P
[20:49] <zack-brennan> i have NO internet. i need internet to install build-essential, i am at the library
[20:49] <lion42> iceheart, what country do you live in?
[20:49] <danileigh79> zack-brennan: don't yell please... What happens when you dl it and try installing it, is it .deb or are you compiling it from a tar?
[20:49] <iceheart> United states.
[20:49] <lion42> If you genuinely need a usb stick, and can wait a few days for it, I can throw one in the mail for you.
[20:49] <johnjacobjinger> zack-brennan: if u dont have internet how r u on IRC?
[20:49] <danileigh79> zack-brennan: You need a wired connection then if your wireless isn't working
[20:50] <iceheart> That's ok lion, I'll just have to find one.
[20:50] <zack-brennan> you gonna fork out the money?
[20:50] <iceheart> I really appreceate that tho.
[20:50] <iceheart> Well since they are cheap guess I'll search couch cushions. ^^
[20:50] <vijaym> hello...How to decrease my screen brightness...i am using sony vaio laptop...brightness control option is not working :( !
[20:50] <lion42> You really should be able to pick one up for all of 5-6$.
[20:51] <iceheart> I'll see if I can get the money and make a run to walmart.
[20:51] <iceheart> Thanks guys, I'm off in search of funds.
[20:51] <zack-brennan> i cant use a wired connetion. the system wont recognize my network cards. which is why i need help
[20:51] <danileigh79> zack-brennan: Don't get nasty with my, I'm trying to find out what is going on in order to help you out, if you can't dl and install on the machine itself, then you have to find it on the net, and transfer it over to the machine with USB
[20:51] <zack-brennan> @danileigh79 i
[20:52] <lion42> vijaym, what model laptop do you have, and what version of ubuntu are you trying to use?
[20:52] <zack-brennan> i'm not being nasty. im stating a fact. i apologize if it sounds that way
[20:52] <vijaym> lion42 : i am using sony viao (VPCCW15FN) and oparating system ubuntu 11.10
[20:53] <elijah> vijaym: You may want to try #ubuntu
[20:53] <zack-brennan> where do i go to find it? i have the tar.gz, but i cant compile it. build-essential has other pre-reqs that i cant access
[20:53] <danileigh79> zack-brennan: Ubuntu comes with native wired network card support, if your laptop wired connection is not working, then it's a fair bet that you have one of the few cards that aren't natively supported, in which case you need to determine the exact dl you need, and transfer it over to the ubuntu machine via USB
[20:53] <lion42> elijah, ... you are in #ubuntu
[20:53] <elijah> lion42: yes, i am :)
[20:54] <ukchris> hi all :)
[20:54] <epaphus> What do i need to install in my ubuntu to let another ubuntu make an X session through the network?
[20:54] <lion42> elijah, and so is vijaym. :P
[20:54] <Shojo> hi danileigh79
[20:54] <danileigh79> zack-brennan: pastebin the output from compiling the tar
[20:54] <elijah> lion42: Lol, I thought I was in #drupal, my bad!
[20:54] <ukchris> does anyone know if it is possible to connect to a remote windows desktop connection (via putty) from an ubuntu machine?
[20:54] <danileigh79> Shojo: Hi Hun!
[20:54] <Shojo> :*
[20:54] <zack-brennan> i cant use build-essential. cant install it
[20:55] <rwq> what is a nice clock for *nix?
[20:55] <rwq> i want something exactly like xclock, just nicer
[20:55] <danileigh79> zack-brennan: use a clean install of ubuntu, something isn't right if you're unable to compile in terminal
[20:56] <lion42> vijaym, these instructions should be relevant to your issue. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Laptop/Sony/Vaio/FSeries/Natty
[20:56] <vijaym> lion42 : how to resolve it now ?
[20:56] <StepNjump> I don't like the libre office database 'base' program. May anyone suggest another? Something that is REAL easy to use?
[20:56] <lion42> vijaym, click the link I just sent you, ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Laptop/Sony/Vaio/FSeries/Natty ) and try to follow the instructions.
[20:56] <elijah> vijaym: Go to system settings and click display, their is a brightness slider
[20:57] <vijaym> lion42 : i have tried it...didn't work ..got my system hung and lost all the data...as next time when i boot...didn't get any display !! :|
[20:57] <epaphus> What do i need to install in my ubuntu to let another ubuntu make an X session through the network?
[20:57] <jmd> When do debian packages get into ubuntu?
[20:58] <lion42> vijaym, sorry, I wouldn't know how to troubleshoot an issue like that. Hopefully someone else will be able to help you.
[20:58] <EDinNY> I upgraded from Natty to Oneric and my scanner stopped working.  Epson CX4200...ideas?
[20:58] <vijaym> lion42 :  thanks for the support ...i appritiate :)
[20:59] <bilel> Hi, is there a simple way to configure a folder to make it readable/writable for both me (the user) and www-data (apache) ?
[21:00] <EDinNY> bilel, it would have to either be r/w for all or you would need to join the apache group and make it group r/w
[21:00] <johnjacobjinger> bilel: Yes... same way you set any permission
[21:00] <Braniac> bibel: i am not an expert but have you tried right click -> properties and in permissions add the "www-data" user???
[21:00] <johnjacobjinger> no he can specify his user and another user EDinNY
[21:00] <johnjacobjinger> or his user and group rather
[21:01] <EDinNY> I said he joins the apache group
[21:01] <EDinNY> and makes the group apache
[21:01] <johnjacobjinger> he may not want to have wite access to everything www-data has...
[21:02] <bilel> so I should give permission to www-data for my folder and simply join the group of www-data?
[21:02] <FrozenKnight> How can I refresh the list of partitions? It seems not to recognize some of my older partitions
[21:03] <johnjacobjinger> if u want  to do what EDinNY says then es that will work
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> FrozenKnight  try sudo fdisk -l
[21:03] <FrozenKnight> Thanks MonkeyDust !
[21:04] <bilel> ok, and then for each file I will create manually apache will also have permission on it and same thing on the other way right?
[21:05] <FrozenKnight> Thanks a bunch, MonkeyDust ! :) that helped me solve the problem :)
[21:05] <EDinNY> chgrp apache_group_name dirname;  chmod 770 dirname
[21:05] <emmanuel_> hello
[21:05] <freqmod> Does anybody know how to make users able to restart certain services?
[21:06] <Ca11um> How can you set a program as executable from terminal?
[21:06] <freqmod> restart: Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.2" (uid=1001 pid=3320 comm="restart nerd_check_mail_access ") interface="com.ubuntu.Upstart0_6.Job" member="Restart" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination="com.ubuntu.Upstart" (uid=0 pid=1 comm="/sbin/init")
[21:06] <EDinNY> That was not exactly right if you need apache to be able to read and write every file
[21:06] <oleksiy> Linux!!!
[21:07] <bilel> EDinNY: I need to let him do that, he has to be able to write and read files :(
[21:07] <dlentz> Callum, chmod +x <file>
[21:07] <Ca11um> Well, actually...
[21:07] <Ca11um> I have W7 and Ubuntu dual-booted, I'm trying to run a Windows program via Wine
[21:08] <Ca11um> Must I copy the other HDD's contents onto the Ubuntu one?
[21:08] <Ca11um> Doesn't seem to be saving the permissions
[21:08] <theadmin> Ca11um: NTFS doesn't support UNIX-like permissions so you might have to copy some stuff over or mess with umasks while mounting
[21:08] <MonkeyDust> Ca11um  i guess you'll have to install with wine, too
[21:08] <Ca11um> It doesn't require installing, MonkeyDust
[21:09] <Ca11um> It's a game I bought on Steam, just the program data for it, and the exe ofc
[21:09] <emmanuel_> I've used gparted from 10.04 to modify the partitions on a disk; then, booting a 11.10 partition, the gparted of this system displays the whole drive as unallocated. Back on 10.04, gparted displays the partitions as they were set.
[21:09] <zenith> hello, i have lost the access to my windows partition on the grub menu, it doesn't appear, but i know windows is installed, what could i do?
[21:09] <theadmin> Ca11um: Steam uses CEG, and Steam games can only be ran from within steam (it builds exes for each user individually, and... Don't know if that applies to non-valve games though)
[21:09] <Ca11um> Nar it's non-Valve
[21:09] <emmanuel_> Also, the results of fdisk -l from the 10.04 system and from the 11.10 system are differents.
[21:10] <Ca11um> GTA:SA, trying to get http://mtasa.com/ on Ubuntu
[21:10] <simmel_> hay some one here who can help me ?
[21:10] <maylow> simmel_ whats the matter
[21:10] <MonkeyDust> simmel_  if you're sweet
[21:10] <emmanuel_> What is the explanation? Is it a known regression of parted, or a different behaviour?
[21:10] <Dullusion> t
[21:11] <waxstone> heh
[21:11] <zenith> anyone as any idea about the lost windows on the grub?
[21:11] <sidd_mak> my "/" mount point is full... what file can i delete...?? [i.e. temp. file. etc...]
[21:12] <MonkeyDust> zenith  you can add windows chainloader in the grub2 menu
[21:12] <simmel_> i have a folder in my windows 7 which i cant delate so i downloaded ubuntu for cd boot .... i delated it with ubuntu and when i want to relaunch windows 7 i become a bluescreeen (with ending f4)
[21:12] <Ca11um> Your /home stuff, sidd_mak?
[21:12] <zenith> MonkeyDust: how?
[21:12] <Ca11um> oh wait, nvm, don't they have different space allocations?
[21:12] <zenith> MonkeyDust: I'm on ubuntu 11.10
[21:12] <sidd_mak> Callum : separate mount point
[21:12] <theadmin> sidd_mak: First try removing everything from under /var/log/, takes space up and, well, most of the time useless. Secondly, uninstall any software you don't use (Ubuntu comes with a ton of stuff :P)
[21:13] <theadmin> sidd_mak: Thirdly, use Bleachbit to remove a LOT of stuff that's often of no use
[21:13] <maylow> simmel_ what was folders name
[21:13] <Simba1> you can simply use super grub ISO to avoid this probelm and modify your boot file
[21:13] <zenith> Mongoose, Sorry, ubuntu 11,04
[21:13] <simmel_> Avast software ... i really cant delate it
[21:13] <MonkeyDust> zenith  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[21:13] <simmel_> avast dosent work anylonger for me and the slef protektion cant be disabeld
[21:13] <simmel_> self*
[21:14] <theadmin> simmel_: Google "avast uninstall utility".
[21:14] <nics`> zenith, that's very unusual, what does 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda' give you?
[21:14] <theadmin> simmel_: More of: http://www.avast.com/uninstall-utility
[21:14] <simmel_> dosent work becuase the self protekt prozess is running and i cant unchek the selfprotektion box in avast
[21:14] <maylow> simmel_ dont think irc is a place to look for help like this; only advice i can give you is reinstall windows / don't install avast, use panda cloud antivirus
[21:14] <simmel_> i alredy know this
[21:15] <theadmin> simmel_: You need to run it from safe mode if avast is broken in this way
[21:15] <sidd_mak> theadmin can is got ahead with " sudo rm -rf log/"...???
[21:15] <Ca11um> I'm trying to install Wine, but it says I must remove Windows compatability layer...
[21:15] <Ca11um> Aren't they the same thing?
[21:15] <MonkeyDust> simmel_  you ruined your windows by deleting some essential folder, better ask help in ##windows (that's double #)
[21:15] <simmel_> when i am in safemode with the unistall unity it wont work too because i have to unchek safe protektion first but wont work for me
[21:15] <zenith> nics`, windows partition appears
[21:16] <zenith> MonkeyDust, thank you, it's been a while since i don't use ubuntu
[21:16] <maylow> simmel_ if reinstalling windows is an option - it's the best option
[21:16] <Fyodorovna> simmel_, supergrub for grub 2 does not modify grub 2 or the mbr it is just for booting in. http://www.supergrubdisk.org/wiki/SuperGRUB2Disk
[21:16] <nics`> and 'sudo update-grub2' won't put it in your grub menu?
[21:16] <nagarjuna> hi, how can we enable / disable the services in ubuntu
[21:17] <theadmin> sidd_mak: Just try to use bleachbit, seriously, it's a lot easier for starters :D
[21:17] <theadmin> nagarjuna: Try rcconf
[21:18] <simmel_> sooo when i delate it with ubuntu ( the folder) works fine but when i will start windows again it chrashes
[21:18] <sidd_mak> theadmin : any how i don't need any logs....
[21:18] <theadmin> sidd_mak: Well: sudo rm -r /var/log/*
[21:18] <theadmin> sidd_mak: Note the /*, because removing the /var/log directory itself looks like a bad idea to me
[21:18] <nagarjuna> theadmin: thanks
[21:19] <nics`> nagarjuna: initctl also
[21:19] <maylow> simmel_ is windows reinstall an option?
[21:19] <simmel_> i will loos a mass of data
[21:19] <maylow> simmel_ a notebook?
[21:20] <simmel_> nope pc
[21:20] <MonkeyDust> simmel_  better ask help in the ##windows channel
[21:20] <simmel_> noone is answering there
[21:20] <MonkeyDust> simmel_  and this is the ubuntu channel
[21:20] <simmel_> i am sorry ^^
[21:21] <sidd_mak> theadmin : thanx a lot man
[21:22] <hydrox24> sidd_mak: you should also make sure you consider resizing your / partition.
[21:23] <EDinNY> How do I install .deb's from a command line?  I am an RH guy when it comes to command line
[21:23] <teluge> i remember i was getting my graphic drivers a couple distro versions back from some site or team or something any ideas?
[21:23] <llutz> EDinNY: sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[21:23] <MonkeyDust> EDinNY  with dpkg (debian package)
[21:24] <teluge> ediny sudo dpkg -i package_file.deb
[21:24] <EDinNY> thanks.  worked
[21:25] <epaphus> I installed vino on my ubuntu.. and then in another machine iam trying to do vncviewer -fullscreen LAN-IP ... but it says connection refused.... should i be doing something else?
[21:26] <najka> hi
[21:27] <sidd_mak> hydrox24 : is it possible to extend the partition dynamically ??
[21:28] <MonkeyDust> simmel_  if you use lvm
[21:28] <MonkeyDust> sidd_mak   if you use lvm
[21:28] <p3rsist> Any good backport fort ubuntu-server 10.04 php 5.3.5+ ?
[21:28] <najka> help
[21:28] <simmel_> lvm ?
[21:28] <simmel_> what is it ?
[21:28] <najka> helppp
[21:28] <MonkeyDust> simmel_  wrong nick, i was addressing sidd_mak
[21:28] <simmel_> ahh okay
[21:29] <sidd_mak> MonkeyDust : oh ya.... we can do it through lvm.... thanx man...
[21:30] <crazydiamond> Hi. Is no_NO a separate locale, or is it only alias of nn_NO / nb_NO?
[21:30] <MonkeyDust> crazydiamond  what do they mean?
[21:31] <crazydiamond> locale codes for Norwegian
[21:35] <Ca11um> How do you terminate a program in Wine?
[21:36] <unsecur3d> Ca11um,  what do u mean
[21:37] <DanBurton> I'm on ubuntu 10.04, and I think I've screwed up my libcairo.so.2 somehow. I'm trying to use drracket but it says it "cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" even though /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2 does exist
[21:37] <bobweaver> I have a question about this Restart the Mac and hold the Option Key.    that I have been reading from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation    This is the Super button ?
[21:37] <Ca11um> unsecur3d, what if the program becomes unresponcive?
[21:37] <gk2012> I have a newer Gateway notebook with A6-3400 Vision CPU along with ATi Radeon HD 6520G. I downloaded a 32-bit and 64-bit edition of Ubuntu and have tried testing the live DVD's but keep get that Blank Screen(black-screen) when rebooting with the live media. Sound works and the OS loads just no X-session ? Any tips ?
[21:37] <Ca11um> Also, "Simply extract the fonts from the .7z archive to the 'Fonts' directory in the Windows directory inside your Wine directory. "
[21:38] <Ca11um> Where is that directory located?
[21:38] <bobweaver> /usr/share/fonts/
[21:38] <Ca11um> Just there, or in one of the directories?
[21:38] <Ca11um> X11, type1, truetype, cmap
[21:40] <Xethron> I wish to setup a server that will dynamically control internet speed based on the amount of internet a user consumed relative to another. For example. If only one user is online, he gets 100% of the line speed. However, if two users are online, the one who consumed less internet should get preference as to allow him/her to "catch up". Does anyone know of software with the ability to do that?
[21:40] <gk2012> I've tried booting with 'nomodeset' by holding F6 on boot, I've also chose to use free software only, and even disabled acpi. It puts me into a command line and does't start X.
[21:42] <ironhalik> Any idea how should I configure thinkfan when theres no apparent pwm fan control, or other fan control file?
[21:42] <ixiaqla> hello
[21:43] <nagarjuna> i did many changes & configure some application and also install some themes like gnome/kde. Can i get my ubuntu-desktop back
[21:43] <epaphus> Hello. How could i install sun java in ubuntu? any link?
[21:43] <gk2012> I have a newer Gateway notebook with A6-3400 Vision CPU along with ATi Radeon HD 6520G. I downloaded a 32-bit and 64-bit edition of Ubuntu and have tried testing the live DVD's but keep get that Blank Screen(black-screen) when rebooting with the live media. Sound works and the OS loads just no X-session ? Any tips ?
[21:43] <gk2012> epaphus: use the software center or synaptic package manager
[21:43] <MonkeyDust> epaphus  sun-java is no longer adviced, use open-java
[21:46] <lion42> gk2012, have you tried the alternate installer? Or something like lubuntu? That's what I'd consider next, if searching for the problem on my model of computer did not produce any results.
[21:46] <epaphus> MonkeyDust, is open-java new?
[21:48] <guntbert> ironhalik: I have it in system tools
[21:48] <MonkeyDust> epaphus  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/java-to-be-removed-from-ubuntu-uninstalled-from-user-machines/
[21:49] <Zaitzev> what can I use to read/write .sqlite files?
[21:49] <gk2012> lion42: I'm really needing to just run from live session and not hard-disk install
[21:49] <guntbert> ironhalik: tpfan-admin
[21:50] <epaphus> tnx
[21:50] <gk2012> lion42: I tried the f6 boot optios, it just puts me into command line
[21:56] <nishttal2> hi guys.. is there a different channel for xubuntu
[21:56] <totesmuhgoats> nishttal2: you can ask here, but if its an xfce issue you might get mor help in #xubuntu
[21:57] <mkquist> is there a channel that might help with stream ripper?
[21:57] <totesmuhgoats> i think there is a bot entry for it but not being a regular here i don't know the trigger
[21:57] <totesmuhgoats> mkquist: what is stream ripper?
[21:58] <mkquist> totesmuhgoats: rips internet streams
[21:58] <Guinness2702> So, I've finally got sound to come through the monitor by replacing a DVI->HDMI cable with HDMI->HDMI.  Except now, I can't control the volume in software (e.g. by the volume slider)?  How can I fix this, so the volume slider does control the volume?
[21:58] <nishttal2> i am trying to setup compiz on xubuntu 11.10.. when i try the compiz --replace command i get the following errors... http://www.fpaste.org/h31w/
[21:58] <mkquist> !stream-ripper
[21:59] <emmanuel_> gparted from ubuntu 11.10 doesn't recognize the partitions on a drive that was partitioned using gparted from ubuntu 10.04, how to make 11.10 recognize them (they are still visible when booting from 10.04)?
[22:00] <TheNexT> how come i cant load my intel drivers ?
[22:00] <TheNexT> this is my video card
[22:00] <TheNexT> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[22:00] <totesmuhgoats> TheNexT: is it a brand new chipset?
[22:01] <TheNexT> totesmuhgoats, yes
[22:02] <totesmuhgoats> TheNexT: it might not have be included in the version of the kernel or xorg that ubuntu ships with, im not sure how it works with graphics drivers
[22:03] <TheNexT> totesmuhgoats, its a dell inspiron n5110 core i5
[22:03] <totesmuhgoats> i have had issues when my intel chip was brand new, needed to use a newer kernel than my distro shipped with
[22:03] <TheNexT> should i do a aptitute install xorg?
[22:03] <Ca11um> I take it Wine is slightly slower than native execution, or is there barely any difference?
[22:04] <TheNexT> and then aptitute upgrade
[22:04] <Ca11um> I'm trying to play a multiplayer game on it, I won't suffer major fps drop, will I?
[22:04] <totesmuhgoats> TheNexT: you should already have xorg no?
[22:04] <TheNexT> totesmuhgoats, i do
[22:04] <totesmuhgoats> Ca11um: you should consult the wine db
[22:05] <totesmuhgoats> performance and glitches really vary from program to program
[22:05] <TheNexT> but what if i need an update of xorg?
[22:05] <shmily> please excuse, i have never used irc before. i was wondering how i would start a program directly after resume from suspend
[22:05] <totesmuhgoats> TheNexT: have you tried apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
[22:05] <TheNexT> yes
[22:05] <Ca11um> db?
[22:06] <mkquist> emmanuel_: where they connected when 11.10 was installed?
[22:06] <totesmuhgoats> !google winedb
[22:06] <totesmuhgoats> Ca11um: http://appdb.winehq.org/
[22:07] <totesmuhgoats> TheNexT: sorry i am not too familiar with ubuntu, but if you have alrady updated you have the newest version available. if the problem is that your version is too old you could wait for the next release of ubuntu or try out something like a backport
[22:08] <shmily> how do you trigger a script to start after i resume from a suspend
[22:08] <shmily> ubuntu 10.04 amd64
[22:09] <shmily> or maybe a redirect to where i could find out?
[22:09] <Ca11um> Hm apparently it's "Platinum"
[22:09] <bdi> hello...im trying to run checkinstall for installing libgphoto v.2.4.13 on my linux mint 12 box. I did ./configure prefix=/opt && make && checkinstall and i get this error when the checkinstall command is exectured : http://bin.cakephp.org/view/237142273 What is going wrong?
[22:09] <ikonia> bdi: mint support is not in this channel
[22:09] <ikonia> !mint | bdi
[22:09] <crizzy> bdi: this is not a mint support channel
[22:10] <bdi> sry, wrong channel
[22:10] <totesmuhgoats> shmily: i don't know tbh, i was googling around. the technology that allows you to suspend, resume, whatever is acpi
[22:11] <totesmuhgoats> so linux acpi docs might be a place to start
[22:12] <agnohendrix> write!
[22:12] <agnohendrix> oh does this shit work?!?!?!?
[22:12] <agnohendrix> buerUK speak to me
[22:12] <ikonia> agnohendrix: tone down the language please.
[22:12] <agnohendrix> why don't you write?!?!?!?
[22:12] <agnohendrix> oh
[22:12] <ikonia> agnohendrix: it's not a chat channel
[22:12] <totesmuhgoats> agnohendrix: what's wrong?
[22:12] <Sazpaimon> why doesnt exim4-base create a sendmail symlink
[22:12] <agnohendrix> thank god
[22:13] <Sazpaimon> postfix does, and i assume qmail does too
[22:13] <ikonia> agnohendrix: it's ubuntu technical support, you need to ask an ubuntu technical support question for people to respond
[22:13] <ikonia> Slartibart: qmail works different than other mta's
[22:13] <ikonia> oops
[22:13] <agnohendrix> i've been on the channels i needed but none answered
[22:13] <ikonia> Sazpaimon: ^
[22:13] <ikonia> agnohendrix: this channel is only for ubuntu technical support
[22:13] <Sazpaimon> ikonia, but most, if not all MTAs create a sendmail symlink
[22:13] <agnohendrix> so i've taken the first channel i could to know if i was wrong in something
[22:14] <Sazpaimon> and I believe my gentoo install does that, and I remember debian making one
[22:14] <agnohendrix> sorry!
[22:14] <ikonia> Sazpaimon: it depends, I think there are annoying restrictions on packaging qmail
[22:14] <ikonia> Sazpaimon: so if you built it from source it will make it
[22:15] <Sazpaimon> ikonia, postfix makes a sendmail symlink too
[22:17] <Sazpaimon> okay I see
[22:17] <Sazpaimon>  is what I wanted
[22:17] <Sazpaimon> erm
[22:17] <Sazpaimon> exim4-daemon-light
[22:17] <FloodBot1> Sazpaimon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:17] <mishaj> Hello, new to IRC chat
[22:18] <mishaj> Question about panel properties - or lack there of
[22:18] <mrintegr1ty> hi all, my dhcp server is a little on the flakey side. is it possible to stop dhcpcd from deconfiguring the interface if the dhcp server dissapears for a few minutes?
[22:18] <vlt> !ask | mishaj
[22:19] <mishaj> In experimenting with the top panel, I unchecked expand, and now there is no vacant spot in which to right click to pull up the panel menu
[22:20] <mishaj> Any ideas?
[22:20] <elky> mishaj, which ubuntu are you using?
[22:20] <mrintegr1ty> no offence to my fellow visitors to this channel, some of whome are very advanced, but is there an ubuntu channel that is more aimed at experience users / server administrators ?
[22:21] <mishaj> 11.04 with Gnome desktop 2.23.1
[22:21] <mishaj> Gnome 2.32.1
[22:23] <xavierspider> Hey, after installing ubuntu 11.10 on a flash drive from windows, I'm still getting the installer on the desktop asking me to install, is this normal?
[22:23] <variant> no offence to my fellow visitors to this channel, some of whome are very advanced, but is there an ubuntu channel that is more aimed at experience users / server administrators ? (seems i was in ubuntu-unregged when i asked that. dunno if that is shown here
[22:25] <variant> !channels
[22:26] <log> variant: There's #ubuntu-server, if that's what you're referring to...
[22:26] <variant> log: good enough, thanks
[22:26] <n3gro>  /server irc.chatunidos.com 6667
[22:27] <Sc0tty-> whats that?
[22:28] <HelgeS> How can I create new program starters in the new desktop environment?
[22:28] <HelgeS> It isn't Gnome, and I feel lost.
[22:29] <escott> !info alacarte | HelgeS
[22:29] <hydrox24> HelgeS: Are you using 11.10?
[22:29] <Fyodorovna> HelgeS, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-create-desktop-launchers-in-ubuntu-11-10oneiric.html
[22:29] <HelgeS> I'm using 11.10 on an old computer from2003.
[22:30] <emmanuel_> mkquist: sorry for late reply. yes they were connected, in fact, some time I could view all partitions in both ubuntu 10.04 and 11.10 with gparted, but after some modifications in 10.04, the partitions are no longer visible with gparted in 11.10
[22:30] <emmanuel_> yet all partitions are still visible with fdisk in 11.10
[22:30] <HelgeS> so an optional program is needed to create program starters, but not to remove them? I've removed a few...
[22:31] <emmanuel_> they can also be mounted
[22:31] <Fyodorovna> HelgeS, you can't right click and create them anymore.
[22:32] <girishr> a packaging question: does apt look for packages.gz in binary-<arch>/ always?
[22:32] <emmanuel_> only gparted now see the disk as unallocated which is quite unnerving about a possible "fuzzy" things done with gparted under 10.04
[22:33] <savage2005> I am looking for a program that works like microsoft publisher I need to make some thank you cards, what should i use? (i took a quick look at open office but it did not seem to have what i am looking for, correct me if im wrong)
[22:33] <hydrox24> xavierspider: do you mean the installer on the desktop of your USB drive after it has been booted? Or your windows desktop?
[22:33] <emmanuel_> besides, even though fdisk shows all partitions in 10.04 and 11.10, the display is not the same, in particular the number of cylinders differs, as well as the disk capacity
[22:33] <hydrox24> savage2005: scribus should do it.
[22:33] <HelgeS> I see no correspondance between settings in alacarte, and the objects I have to the left on the screen. How can I change these objects?
[22:34] <hydrox24> savage2005: A little bit more advanced and complex than publisher but is just as good, if not far better.
[22:34] <hydrox24> HelgeS: You can click and drag the icon of an app into it or out of it.
[22:34] <savage2005> hydrox24: installing now thanks for the tip!
[22:34] <hydrox24> HelgeS: to remove them, right click and select remove.
[22:35] <HelgeS> hydrox24: Drag from where? Using which mouse button?
[22:35] <xavierspider> hydrox24: the installer on the desktop of my usb drive but I did some research and I know what I did wrong going to fix my mistake, brb
[22:38] <mkquist> emmanuel_: checked the fstab in 11.10?
[22:39] <emmanuel_> the fstab in 11.10 does not reference any partition that are on the "problem" disk
[22:40] <mkquist> emmanuel_:what does sudo fdisk -l show?
[22:40] <emmanuel_> although fdisk lists all the partitions I realise that cfdisk doesn't and fails with an error message with a wrong partitio
[22:40] <emmanuel_> mmm
[22:41] <emmanuel_> let me find the link for pasting information...
[22:43] <emmanuel_> done
[22:43] <regi> oi
[22:43] <mkquist> emmanuel_: better to aim the message at someone
[22:43] <regi> chat
[22:43] <regi> CHAT
[22:44] <szal> !chat | regi
[22:44] <log> !br | regi
[22:44] <emmanuel_> you mean, I should paste the fdisk result to you, for instance, on irc?
[22:44] <regi> chat
[22:44] <mkquist> emmanuel_: no, just saying that when you 'aim' a message at someone you should type their user name first (tab helps to complete) then type you message
[22:45] <superdave321> regi, what are you trying to do?
[22:45] <emmanuel_> mkquist: ok thanks
[22:45] <regi> desculpa mas nao falo ingles
[22:45] <log> regi: /join #ubuntu-br
[22:46] <mkquist> emmanuel_: there you go
[22:46] <mkquist> emmanuel_: now back to disk problem
[22:46] <emmanuel_> mkquist: btw i'm investigating a new lead with cfdisk
[22:46] <mkquist> emmanuel_: !pastebin
[22:46] <emmanuel_> !pastebin
[22:47] <regi> help
[22:47] <regi> help
[22:47] <superdave321> !pt > regi
[22:48] <regi> %C05 oi
[22:48] <emmanuel_> mkquist: i did post the fdisk result on the pastebin but i saw no http link for it appear on the channel, did you see anything?
[22:48] <regi> help
[22:48] <mkquist> emmanuel_: no pastebin gives you the link
[22:48] <log> !br | regi
[22:48] <gk2012> I'm have no video when attempting to run from the live DVD, the OS loads fine, login sounds are able to be heard etc... just no Video, blank-screen issue
[22:48] <gk2012> I've tried booting with with nomodeset option and even tried freesoftware only as well as disabled acpi
[22:49] <gk2012> I also hooked up an eternal monitor to see if it may of been a toggling issue
[22:49] <gk2012> no success, any tips ?
[22:49] <emmanuel_> mkquist: the output of fdisk is there: http://paste.ubuntu.com/882456/
[22:51] <emmanuel_> mkquist: the bugs section of the fdisk manpage says: 'fdisk is a buggy program that does fuzzy things'
[22:51] <emmanuel_> mkquist: on the other hand it praises cfdisk which in fact gives interesting results
[22:52] <ikonia> !info qmail
[22:52] <gk2012> I have no video when attempting to run from the live DVD, the OS loads fine, login sounds are able to be heard etc.. just no Video, blank-screen issue. I've tried booting with with nomodeset option and even tried freesoftware only as well as disabled acpi, still no success. I also hooked up an external monitor to see if it may of been a toggling issue, no success still. Any suggestions or tips ?
[22:52] <mkquist> emmanuel_: ive always had good luck with fdisk, but I use gparted to partition...
[22:54] <lazarus_> o/
[22:54] <emmanuel_> mkquist: ok, i also use gparted, now the more salient problem is precisely with gparted which (according to fdisk's manpage) is more closely related to cfdisk then to fidks
[22:54] <mkquist> emmanuel_: can you mount the partitions at all?
[22:54] <mkquist> emmanuel_: the problem ones that is...
[22:54] <OerHeks> emmanuel_, not true, cfdisk can handle disks up to 2 TB. Gparted goes beyond that
[22:55] <gk2012> I have no video when attempting to run from the live DVD, the OS loads fine, login sounds are able to be heard etc.. just no Video, blank-screen issue. I've tried booting with with nomodeset option and even tried freesoftware only as well as disabled acpi, still no success. I also hooked up an external monitor to see if it may of been a toggling issue, no success still. Any suggestions or tips ?
[22:55] <emmanuel_> mkquist: and (consistently) it seems that cfdisk also has a problem which gparted has, maybe it's less permissive than fdisk on "funny" partition tables
[22:55] <emmanuel_> mkquist: yes I can mount the partitions
[22:55] <MultiverseDog> how do I delete old files on /dev/sdb that are owned by Root?
[22:56] <webnet> MultiverseDog, 'sudo su'
[22:56] <webnet> then 1 of 2 things
[22:56] <webnet> rm /path/to.file.ext
[22:56] <MultiverseDog> ok
[22:56] <webnet> or chmod -R 777 /path/where/file/is/
[22:57] <lazarus_> webnet: or gksu nautilus
[22:57] <lazarus_> then locate the file an del it
[22:57] <emmanuel_> mkquist: the output of cfdisk is interesting (translating in EN): "fatal error: primary partition 4: partition ends after end of disk"
[22:57] <mkquist> emmanuel_: so the problem is with 'how' 11.10 sees the disks?
[22:58] <emmanuel_> mkquist: yes, that is one of the questions...
[22:58] <webnet> lazarus_, ah yes. gui. :P i like cli. :D
[22:58] <gk2012> I have no video when attempting to run from the live DVD, the OS loads fine, login sounds are able to be heard etc.. just no Video, blank-screen issue. I've tried booting with with nomodeset option and even tried freesoftware only as well as disabled acpi, still no success. I also hooked up an external monitor to see if it may of been a toggling issue, no success still. Any suggestions or tips ?
[22:58] <emmanuel_> mkquist: probably there is something wrong but, so wrong that gparted refuses to work, but not so wrong that the partitions can't be mounted
[22:58] <lazarus_> me too webnet
[22:59]  * webnet high fives lazarus_ 
[22:59] <webnet> CLI for the win
[22:59] <emmanuel_> mkquist: it happened after i resized the extended partition in 10.04
[22:59] <MultiverseDog> THANKS -> gksu nautilus, I appreciate it!!!
[22:59] <mneptok> !repeat | gk2012
[23:00] <elijah> I just accidentally installed Klipper with apt-get, not realizing the K was for KDE, it is downloading 140+ MB of files. I later realized that Glipper was the Gnome version. If I do a apt-get remove will it remove everything it just installed?
[23:00] <mneptok> webnet: sudo -i is preferable to sudo su
[23:00] <lazarus_> MultiverseDog: use that any time you want to delete files that are owned by root but be carefull
[23:01] <mneptok> elijah: apt-get purge
[23:01] <elijah> mneptok: thx
[23:01] <mneptok> elijah: then you may need apt-get autoremove
[23:01] <emmanuel_> mkquist:the cfdisk error message may be linked to the fact that in 10.04 fdisk sees 160GB whereas in 11.10 it sees only 151GB, and the extended  partition clearly extends beyonds 151GB
[23:02] <emmanuel_> mkquist: also the number of cylinders displayed by fdisk is different
[23:02] <StepNjump> Am I the only one that is struggling with libre office or others also have problems?
[23:03] <lazarus_> elijah: sudo apt-get remove name of package* (the * remove anything you installed with it i.e KDE stuff)
[23:03] <elijah> mneptok: I did both of those successfully and it said it only freed 528KB and 352 KB
[23:03] <gk2012> StepNjump: No problem with Libre here...
[23:04] <gk2012> StepNjump: Make sure open-java is installed
[23:04] <lazarus_> so elijah: sudo apt-get remove  klipper*
[23:04] <elijah> It looks like I have roughly 164 MB of KDE libraries installed now
[23:05] <StepNjump> gk2012: it's running but can't enter one value in only one field database!
[23:05] <elijah> lazarus_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/882486/
[23:06] <gk2012> StepNjump: I'm really not sure what that's about, usually if I've ever had issues with libre-office it's related to Javan not being installed
[23:07] <elijah> lazarus_: This is what I ran and installed the first time - http://paste.ubuntu.com/882490/
[23:09] <lazarus_> elijah: try sudo apt-get autoremove
[23:09] <emmanuel_> mkquist: thanks for your help so far, now I'll just try to destroy the extended partition in 10.04 and check whether I can see the disk again in gparted in 11.10
[23:09] <emmanuel_> bbl
[23:09] <elijah> basically it seems as if purge then autoremove already removed the info it needs to uninstall everything, and it didn't uninstall all the libraries, lazarus_ I did run auto remove already
[23:09] <mkquist> emmanuel_: reading up a bit, seems gparted sees disks size a little different then cfdisk or fdisk
[23:10] <mkquist> emorisse: g/l with I could help more
[23:10] <StepNjump> I think it's installed gk2012 I have the Sun java installed
[23:10] <lazarus_> elijah: do you have synaptic installed
[23:11] <Ovizu> i cant update, this is the error i get:
[23:11] <Ovizu> It was not possible to authenticate some packages. This may be a transient network problem. You may want to try again later. See below for a list of unauthenticated packages.
[23:11] <Ovizu> then theres a list of things
[23:11] <elijah> lazarus_:  I first did the install (http://paste.ubuntu.com/882490/) then did a purge (http://paste.ubuntu.com/882493/), then did the autoremove (http://paste.ubuntu.com/882496/),
[23:11] <Ovizu> evolution-common
[23:11] <Ovizu> libcamel-1.2-23
[23:11] <Ovizu> libebackend-1.2-1
[23:11] <Ovizu> libebook1.2-10
[23:11] <Ovizu> libecal1.2-8
[23:11] <FloodBot1> Ovizu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:11] <Ovizu> libedata-book-1.2-9
[23:12] <elijah> lazarus_:  The program 'synaptic' is currently not installed.
[23:12] <Ovizu> sorry for the flood
[23:12] <Ovizu> what should i do to resolve this?
[23:13] <lazarus_> ok so your running 11.10 right elijah
[23:13] <Ovizu> need to upgrade first?
[23:13] <DJ> how pleasant
[23:14] <elijah> lazarus_: correct
[23:14] <DJ> !tell Ovizu about paste
[23:14] <lazarus_> elijah: synaptic will help you keep an eye one packeges you have installed
[23:14] <Kates> enek wong jowo pora iki nek kene ?
[23:15] <Ovizu> whats the difference between upgrade and updates?
[23:15] <elijah> lazarus_: should I install synaptic?
[23:15] <DJ> Kates, English please
[23:15] <elijah> lazarus_: would it help in this situation?
[23:15] <lazarus_> elijah: yes
[23:15] <Kates> ora iso inggris mbak
[23:16] <DJ> Ovizu, the update is usually the packages you have install by updating to other Releases example from 11.10 to 12.04 you'll need to upgrade you re entire system and new libraries,
[23:16] <gk2012> I have no video when attempting to run from the live DVD, the OS loads fine, login sounds are able to be heard etc.. just no Video, blank-screen issue. I've tried booting with with nomodeset option and even tried freesoftware only as well as disabled acpi, still no success. I also hooked up an external monitor to see if it may of been a toggling issue, no success still. Any suggestions or tips ?
[23:17] <DJ> gk2012, are you using amd64 with i686 kernel?
[23:18] <elijah> lazarus_: what would be a command I could run to flush out the KDE stuff
[23:18] <DJ> elijah, sudo apt-get --purge remove kde*
[23:19] <MultiverseDog> space not freed after using 'gksu nautilus' to delete files owned by Root on /dev/sdb, how do I retrieve freed space?
[23:19] <iceroot> MultiverseDog: empty the trash of the user root
[23:19] <iceroot> MultiverseDog: nautilus is putting everything in the trash-folder of the user
[23:19] <lazarus_> DJ: thanks i was try to find a simple cli way to do it but could not remember
[23:19] <iceroot> even when using root
[23:20] <iceroot> !puregnome | elijah
[23:20] <callen> tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:3500          0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN
[23:20] <iceroot> elijah: look there for the "remove kde part" and dont run the last install command
[23:20] <callen> and iptables -L is empty
[23:20] <MultiverseDog> there is no trash folder displayed in Nautilus
[23:21] <callen> what could cause port 3500 to be inaccessible to the outside world?
[23:21] <iceroot> callen: 127.0.0.1 is not reachable from outside
[23:21] <elijah> I am looking in /var/cache/apt/archives right now and can see all the .debs downloaded in the past hour, they don't all start with KDE
[23:21] <iceroot> callen: that adress is bind to your loopbackdevice and not to your network card
[23:21] <callen> iceroot: it's listening on 0.0.0.0:* I thought.
[23:21] <iceroot> callen: ah sorry have not read everything
[23:22] <callen> iceroot: which means it should me universally accessible.
[23:22] <callen> iceroot: it's from an ssh tunnel.
[23:22]  * lazarus_ has to point out that he is a novice linux user 
[23:22] <callen> I'm trying to expose a local web server via my remote web server.
[23:22] <callen> and it's not working.
[23:22] <callen> if I curl localhost from the remote web server, the tunnel works
[23:22] <callen> if I attempt it via DNS or static external interface IP, it says connection refused.
[23:22] <MultiverseDog> there is a 'lost+found' folder, but it is empty
[23:22] <callen> I have no iptables rules at all.
[23:23] <iceroot> callen: ah that is because DNS is pointing to your eth0 adress, localhost not
[23:23] <iceroot> callen: ssh user@host -L 192.168.0.1:3500:remoteserver:3500
[23:24] <elijah> iceroot: It looks like that should work for the most part, however there are a few .debs that don't match that list
[23:24] <iceroot> callen: http://192.168.0.1:3500 will point to remoteserver:3500
[23:24] <gk2012> DJ: yes I am, but I also tried a 32-Bit Edition same issue
[23:24] <iceroot> elijah: debs in /var/cache/apt/.. has nothing to do with the link from ubottu
[23:24] <iceroot> elijah: you are talking about deinstalling kde? or just remocing the cached deb files?
[23:24] <callen> iceroot: that command doesn't amek any esense at all.
[23:25] <callen> iceroot: am I running that locally against the remote server in addition to the existing -R tunnel?
[23:25] <gk2012> I have no video when attempting to run from the live DVD, the OS loads fine, login sounds are able to be heard etc.. just no Video, blank-screen issue. I've tried booting with with nomodeset option and even tried freesoftware only as well as disabled acpi, still no success. I also hooked up an external monitor to see if it may of been a toggling issue, no success still. Any suggestions or tips ?
[23:25] <callen> `ssh -nNq -R 3500:localhost:5000 myserver.com` <--- that is running on my laptop against my server.
[23:26] <callen> do I need to add a PermitOpen directive to my sshd_config?
[23:26] <emmanuel06160> mkquist: I removed the extended partition in 10.04 then the other partitions could be seen in gparted 11.10 and I could recreate the extended partitition in 11.10
[23:26] <elijah> iceroot: I was just looking at the cached deb files to see what was installed
[23:26] <iceroot> callen: ah the other way around ok, i thought you are using -L and trying localhost:3500 and want to reach mydomain.com with that
[23:26] <elijah> iceroot: I want o removed the installed files and then later remove the deb files
[23:27] <iceroot> elijah: to remove the deb files use "sudo apt-get clean"
[23:27] <iceroot> elijah: to remove kde use the command from ubottu
[23:27] <elijah> iceroot: I want to keep those until I resolve the installed files issue first
[23:27] <emmanuel06160> mkquist: the extended partition finished at the end of the disk in 11.10, but back in 10.04 gparted displays some unused space after the extended partition
[23:27] <gk2012> I have no video when attempting to run from the live DVD, the OS loads fine, login sounds are able to be heard etc.. just no Video, blank-screen issue. I've tried booting with with nomodeset option and even tried freesoftware only as well as disabled acpi, still no success. I also hooked up an external monitor to see if it may of been a toggling issue, no success still. Any suggestions or tips ?
[23:27] <elijah> what is weird is that my sudo command is not found now
[23:27] <mkquist> emmanuel06160: did you use gparted or fdisk?
[23:27] <emmanuel06160> mkquist: I used gparted
[23:27] <escott> MultiverseDog, gksu into nautilus and empty the trash folder
[23:28] <callen> ...no.
[23:28] <elijah> could something that was installed with klipper have removed my sudo?
[23:28] <callen> iceroot: so why is it accessible to the server locally even though it says it's listening to all IPs?
[23:28] <emmanuel06160> mkquist: all is consistent with the fact that the disk appears to have different capacity in gparted (and fdisk) 10.04 and 11.10
[23:28] <mkquist> emmanuel06160: yeah, apparently it can also depend on how the h/d calls itself out to the o/s i guess
[23:28] <callen> or rather, why isn't it working externally?
[23:28] <pillboxing> so guys how can I mount a samba share in fstab? I can't find the correct syntax for fstab file
[23:28] <iceroot> callen: good question, i dont know, sorry
[23:28] <mkquist> emmanuel06160: gparted is different in each version of ubuntu?
[23:28] <escott> gk2012, does ctrl-alt-f1 take you to a text console
[23:29] <mkquist> emmanuel06160: or fdisk is different than gparted?
[23:29] <elijah> nevermind the sudo thing, I am a noob, I was trying to use sudo with cp
[23:29] <emmanuel06160> mkquist: fdisk gives different results in 10.04 and 11.10
[23:29] <escott> emmanuel06160, and its not a gpt issue?
[23:29] <mkquist> emmanuel06160: interesting..
[23:29] <emmanuel06160> mkquist: gparted also gives different results
[23:29] <iceroot> elijah: use /usr/bin/sudo  that should work
[23:30] <mkquist> emmanuel06160: go figure...
[23:30] <gk2012> escott: no it does not... I'm only able to drop down into command line when using specific boot options, ie nomodeset, acpi=disabled etc..
[23:30] <emmanuel06160> mkquist: they both see the disk as 150GB in 11.10 and as 160GB in 10/04
[23:30] <lazarus_> elijah: have you manged to fix all the issues you've had
[23:30] <pillboxing> also: does anyone know why when I add a network share to places in kde that I don't see them in the open files menu in sublime text 2?
[23:30] <iceroot> emmanuel06160: maybe GB and GiB?
[23:30] <emmanuel06160> mkquist: so it I make a partition in 10.04 that goes beyond 150GB, then back in 11.10 garted refuses to work
[23:30] <gk2012> escott: I've been searching on google since yesterday evening and no real solution as of yet..
[23:31] <escott> emmanuel06160, sounds like GB vs GiB
[23:31] <emmanuel06160> iceroot: could have been, but the size in bytes in given too, so it doesn't appear to be the issue
[23:31] <pillboxing> guys :P, I need some halp cos I r linux nab
[23:31] <emmanuel06160> one is 160041885696 bytes, the other is 151158502400
[23:32] <emmanuel06160> also the number of cylinders displayed by fdisk is different
[23:32] <gk2012> escott: it seems to be an issue with the newer ATi Radeon cards, though I've had no success at resolving the issue... my main goal is just to be able to run from the live media, I don't need a hard-disk install
[23:33] <pillboxing> how do I mount an smb share to a folder? I tried sudo mount -t //IP/Share /media/LS guest
[23:33] <pillboxing> but that does nawt work :(
[23:33] <escott> gk2012, im not sure what to suggest. if your goal is the livecd its going to be hard to even put in any kind of hack to make it work
[23:33] <escott> !cifs | pillboxing
[23:33] <pillboxing> oh yeah
[23:34] <pillboxing> I had cifs in there somewhere too
[23:34] <gk2012> escott: yea, it's what I figured
[23:35] <gk2012> escott: thx for seeking to help...
[23:35] <Ca11um> I'm trying to install InspIRCd, where would be the most logical place to put it? Does Ubuntu have a 'Program Files', as such?
[23:35] <Rourick> hello all, how do i enable open gl for compiz affects?
[23:35] <pillboxing> sudo mount -t //192.168.1.149/Scripts /media/LS cifs guest
[23:36] <emmanuel06160> mkquist: so at this point I'm content that gparted can see the partitions again in 11.10, but 10GB of disk space are wasted and I still don't know if it's gparted in 10.04 that messed up some thing (or something else I did) or if it's gparted in 11.10 that is buggy
[23:36] <pillboxing> sudo mount -t //192.168.1.149/Scripts /media/LS cifs guest doesn't work :(
[23:36] <Raymond_> hi
[23:37] <_B00> c
[23:37] <lazarus_> Raymond_: hi
[23:37] <DJ> gk2012, download the 64-bit
[23:37] <DJ> and install that image,
[23:37] <emmanuel06160> mkquist: thus I can now live with things as they are, but is it worth filing a bug report or anything in case they really is a bug somewhere?
[23:37] <itaylor57> Ca11um, that should be in the repo,install via software center
[23:37] <gk2012> DJ: that is what I have, as well as a copy of the 32-Bit Edition
[23:38] <lazarus_> how do you find out specs of a cpu from the cli
[23:38] <gk2012> DJ: both suffer from the same issue
[23:38] <DJ> gk2012, which release are you using?
[23:38] <Raymond_> what is it called when there is a long webpage and the editor wants to place html code to take the person to a specific spot on the same page. does this make sense?
[23:38] <gk2012> DJ: it dose't matter which live media one tries, the issue is the firmware with new ATi cards it seems
[23:38] <dagerik> Raymond_: hashtags or hashlinks? using the #
[23:38] <sirdork> help I'm having trouble setting-up a mail server
[23:39] <DJ> gk2012, do you even have xorg install?
[23:39] <Raymond_> dagerik, thankyou
[23:39] <Ca11um> itaylor57, it's a server
[23:39] <gk2012> DJ: when rebooting with live media, every thing starts load correctly, one is able to even see the Ubuntu logo (Man in Circle-5 Point Star) but then the screen goes blank...
[23:39] <pillboxing> hi guys, can anyone link me an up to date samba mounting guide
[23:40] <DJ> gk2012, Like i said which release are you installing?
[23:40] <gk2012> DJ: the OS continues and loads normally, even able to hear the sounds... I'm not looking to do a hard-disk install, just to consistely run from the live media...
[23:40] <DJ> gk2012, 11.10?
[23:40] <gk2012> DJ: correct
[23:40] <itaylor57> !info inspircd | Ca11um
[23:40] <Ca11um> Oh, using apt-get?
[23:41] <Ca11um> v1.1.22 is outdated
[23:41] <Ca11um> I need 2.0.5
[23:41] <itaylor57> Ca11um, then look for a ppa
[23:41] <DJ> gk2012, which ATI video card do you own,?
[23:41] <Ca11um> A what?
[23:41] <gk2012> DJ: To be exact and detailed, I'm looking to run Sabily(Ubuntu Derived) 64-Bit from the live media on a consistent basis
[23:41] <itaylor57> !ppa | Ca11um
[23:42] <gk2012> DJ: the card is ATi 6520g HD with 512mb ram
[23:42] <gk2012> DJ: AMD Radeon
[23:42] <escott> pillboxing, check http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=288534
[23:42] <michaelh1> Help!  I just dist-upgraded on Precise and now Alt-anything and Super-anything don't work
[23:42] <Rourick> hello all, how do i enable open gl for compiz affects?
[23:43] <escott> !samba | pillboxing
[23:43] <DJ> gk2012, do this at Terminal, sudo sh /usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh
[23:44] <escott> gk2012, if you are running sabily you should ask in the sabily channel. its doubly hard for us to offer advice when you are not running plain vanilla ubuntu
[23:44] <gk2012> DJ: reguardless whether I use a 32-Bit or 64-Bit live media, the blank-screen issue still persist... It also persist when using boot options such as 'nomodeset, acpi=off etc..' ... the difference being when using the boot option one is at least able to have the command line
[23:44] <nebie> hey guys, i keep trying to install vmware workstation, and I get some kind of kernel error when I try and run it?
[23:44] <gk2012> escott: the sabily channel is unable to resolve and said it's "doubly important" to ask here as that distro is only a tweak of Ubuntu
[23:44] <itaylor57> Ca11um, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[23:45] <Ca11um> 11.10
[23:45] <gk2012> DJ: thx for seeking to humbly assist...
[23:45] <DJ> gk2012, sudo sh /usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh sudo apt-get remove --purge xorg-driver-fglrx fglrx*sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[23:46] <gk2012> DJ: thank you so very much, I'm noting all these before I attempt again...
[23:47] <escott> Rourick, use jockey to install the drivers for your card
[23:47] <DJ> gk2012, then sudo apt-get install build-essential cdbs fakeroot dh-make debhelper debconf libstdc++6 dkms libqtgui4 wget execstack libelfg0 dh-modaliases sudo apt-get install ia32-libs (only if on amd64 as I was)  sh ./ati-driver-installer-11-9-x86.x86_64.run (choose build deb packages)   sudo dpkg -i fglrx*.deb sudo aticonfig --initial -f
[23:47] <DJ> but you'll have to reboot gk2012
[23:48] <DJ> gk2012, by the way why don't you just Use, virtualbox?
[23:48] <itaylor57> Ca11um, you could look at this ppa, but know that ppa's are not supported https://launchpad.net/~stevecrozz/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=oneiric
[23:49] <gk2012> DJ: okay I have all of the commands noted, will this work for just seeking to use the live-media and not needing a hard-disk install ? How will the commands not need repeating if rebooting ?
[23:49] <Rourick> escott: jockey gtk is installed
[23:49] <escott> Rourick, yes run it.
[23:49] <Rourick> i just checked in software center
[23:49] <gk2012> DJ: if I can't pull this off with just the live media, the virtual-box option is next i presume, not had very great experience with vm's
[23:49] <Rourick> ok
[23:49] <DJ> gk2012, since you want to play with Linux, my advise for you, is for you to Read about it,
[23:50] <gk2012> DJ: I've been playing with it since I was 12, Im 26
[23:50] <elijah> lazarus_: Actually I got sidetracked with figuring out how to pipe output from the find command into xclip so I could post the file name since nautilus wouldn't let me edit the filename so I could copy paste it here. I figured it out how to pipe the filename directly to clipboard (xclip) and now have a new trick.
[23:50] <gk2012> DJ: what reading material do you have to offer, please share ?
[23:50] <DJ> http://askubuntu.com/questions/67065/system-doesnt-boot-after-amd-11-9-driver-install
[23:50] <gk2012> DJ: thank you
[23:50] <Rourick> no proprietary drivers on system?
[23:50] <starn> does ubuntu have tools to check if a disk is dying? preferably the disk it's installed onto?
[23:51] <DJ> !next
[23:51] <Rourick> in use*
[23:52] <escott> gk2012, to do this with a livecd you would have to loop mount the squashfs casper image and modify it and then reburn the cd. it could be a rather daunting undertaking. there is a usb creator tool that has a persistence option but you might also try unetbootin
[23:52] <gk2012> DJ: :p for finding that entry... been looking for something like it since yesterday evening!
[23:52] <escott> starn, the disk utilty as well as the command line smartctl will give smart status information
[23:52] <gk2012> escott: thanks as well, will seek to look into them option also if need be...
[23:53] <starn> escott: could a EXT4 partition make the bio's smart test detect fake errors?
[23:54] <escott> starn, it should not, the bios shouldn't be reading the disk but merely querying the values in the smart tables of the disk firmware
[23:55] <Praxi> is iptables on by default in ubuntu server 11.10?
[23:55] <EvilResistance> Praxi, its usually installed, but inactive until you configure it
[23:55] <elijah> lazarus_: and iceroot - I have one deb that was downloaded with klipper (/var/cache/apt/archives/qt4-doc_4%3a4.7.4-0ubuntu8.1_all.deb ), it is taking up nearly 100MB of the data. By following the instructions for removing Kubuntu from Ubuntu I don't see where it will remove that documentation. Will it?
[23:55] <Praxi> k thanks EvilResistance , just ran a disable to it, but wasn't sure what its default state was
[23:56] <EvilResistance> Praxi, if you didnt configure it, its default state is set to ALLOW
[23:56] <Praxi> trying to use mysql workbench on a install a LAMP install
[23:56] <Praxi> keeps giving me not allowed so trying to figure out where my problem is :)
[23:56] <EvilResistance> Praxi, by default, MySQL doesnt listen to the internet
[23:56] <EvilResistance> its set to be local-only
[23:56] <Praxi> ya I changed it to its IP in the .conf
[23:56] <Praxi> then restarted mysql
[23:56] <elijah> unless maybe (/var/cache/apt/archives/qt4-doc_4%3a4.7.4-0ubuntu8.1_all.deb) is actually kubuntu-docs?
[23:57] <starn> escott: i'm using the commandline tool but it doesn't appear to want to scan the disk