[00:16] <Draconicus> Hi.
[00:17] <knome> hullo
[00:19] <Draconicus> So... Day 1: Upgraded to 11.10. Things were great, then compiz randomly stopped loading correctly, but ONLY in Xfce... Day 2: soreau suggested I check the session options, which indeed were missing the Gnomey bit in the compatibility section. Compiz started working again.... Day 3: Compiz is broken again, myseriously. The gnome thing is still checked in the session options.
[00:19] <aicasn> i just updated some packages on my 64-bit 11.10 machine and the UI took a crap after the updates so I rebooted. now I can't get anything but graphical corruption and a frozen machine whenever i boot into ubuntu. anyone else have this problem?
[00:19] <Draconicus> aicasn: What video driver are you using?
[00:19] <aicasn> nvidia's
[00:19] <Draconicus> Also, describe "graphical corruption"
[00:20] <Draconicus> Are you by chance using a GTK 2.0 theme and trying to run GNOME-oriented applications?
[00:20] <aicasn> i see the top 10% of the screen (blue background of the login screen) and the rest is black.  does not respond to keyboard commands, mouse movements, etc.  no c-a-d, c-a-f1, or anything else
[00:21] <aicasn> Draconicus: i have no idea but at the login screen i'm not running anything but the display manager
[00:21] <aicasn> iow, the system is unusable
[00:22] <Draconicus> Weiiird
[00:22] <Draconicus> Do you have another computer? I have a suggestion that will ease this a bit - especially if it's a laptop.
[00:23] <knome> aicasn, have you tried to disable the nvidia driver?
[00:23] <aicasn> i was able to boot into recovery mode.  under a root shell the last line in my Xorg.0.log pertained to the nvidia driver. it was not an error, just chatter. nothing after the nvidia line (i'm assuming that's where the pc froze)
[00:23] <aicasn> no, i'm not sure how to do that.  certainly willing to try but i'll have to dual-boot back and forth unless i can make my xubu usable again
[00:25] <knome> aicasn, remove the nvidia driver line from /etc/X11/xorg.conf, that should exist i think...
[00:25] <aicasn> i don't think this machine used a static xorg.conf
[00:25] <Draconicus> aicasn: Press ESC rapidly while booting. Should get you a GRUB menu.
[00:25] <Draconicus> From there, select recovery mode.
[00:25] <aicasn> also everything in the recovery mode shell was read-only
[00:25] <Draconicus> Like F8 with Windows
[00:25] <Draconicus> Oh
[00:25] <Draconicus> >..>
[00:26] <Draconicus> knome: xorg.conf is usually empty after 10.10
[00:26] <knome> Draconicus, afaik, nvidia-settings will create one always
[00:27] <knome> aicasn, ^
[00:27] <aicasn> so, i suppose the questions are...  1) is read-only recovery shell normal?  2) is it safe to remount r/w?   3) how do I disable nvidia driver w/o an xorg.conf?
[00:27] <aicasn> knome: okay i'll double-check that
[00:27] <knome> 2) would think so, if you can
[00:28] <knome> i mean, how can you recover anything if everything is ro :)
[00:28] <Draconicus> Oh god how do I get this OSD keyboard off my screen?! I don't even have a touch scereen! D:
[00:28] <Draconicus> I installed gnome-tweak-tool and it installed caribou
[00:28] <Draconicus> And caribou came with a keyboard I guess. D:
[00:28] <Draconicus> antler keyboard... hrngh
[00:28] <aicasn> back in a few
[00:28] <knome> Draconicus, uninstall caribou then :P
[00:29] <GridCube> Draconicus, why do you have gnome stuff?
[00:29] <GridCube> thats silly
[00:29] <Draconicus> I like nautilus and gedit... D:
[00:29] <knome> GridCube, ... we're not here to judge people, seriously
[00:29] <GridCube> okay
[00:30] <knome> besides, they might have installed ubuntu desktop, then xubuntu packages in addition to that, not the other way around
[00:30] <GridCube> i take my words and go back to my cave, but the people come complaining abuot gnome breaking xfce and ... nvm
[00:30] <Draconicus> I've got a huge pile of mixed stuff
[00:30] <knome> transition is not always easy or quick
[00:30] <Draconicus> I use K3B
[00:30] <knome> GridCube, well yeah i agree with that.
[00:30] <Draconicus> Oh, and Rosegarden
[00:30] <Draconicus> Both QT applications.
[00:31] <knome> Draconicus, about compiz: it's not really officially supported with xfce so... :/
[00:31] <Draconicus> And seriously, some GTK applications are just 3.0 already. Gnome-tweak-tool seems to be the only thing that handles it well
[00:32] <knome> Draconicus, there should be some tutorials around, and there might be some people in the channel that know about it too but... it's on you :)
[00:32] <Draconicus> Officially supported... I'm just looking for fellow linux'ers with advice. Debian guys don't give me that line. X3
[00:33] <knome> Draconicus, i just wanted to say that so you don't expect anything. some people do expect we fix their xubuntu whatever they did for it...
[00:33] <Draconicus> I've been doing this for years, knome. Don't worry about my expectations. :P
[00:34] <knome> Draconicus, i won't. :)
[00:34] <knome> Draconicus, i'm just making sure we don't have a user in the channel snapping and going ballistic after a few days because the user expects to get everything, here, now :)
[00:35] <knome> Draconicus, and no, don't take that personally... :)
[00:37] <luroh> hm, ubuntu's move to pae kernel as default has me slightly worried
[00:38] <luroh> i would guess it doesn't align very well with the goals of xubuntu
[00:38] <GridCube> why?
[00:39] <luroh> well, since xubuntu seems to cater to owners of slightly older machines, a pae-enabled kernel doesn't suit that end of the hardware spectrum
[00:39] <knome> huh?
[00:39] <GridCube> xubuntu its not meant to be a "small" distro, if thats what you're thinking, its meant to be just awesome and xfce based
[00:40] <luroh> alright, so no love for my t41p, it seems
[00:42] <luroh> (and the homepage actually says "It works well on older hardware too.")
[00:42] <knome> luroh, for now, you can always use an older version.
[00:42] <luroh> sure
[00:43] <GridCube> yes, notice the "too", luroh, it doesnt say "its meant to"
[00:43] <knome> i don't know the details for PAE-as-default, but i'd imagine there's a possibility to install with a non-PAE kernel to
[00:43] <GridCube> knome, nope, you need to enable it to get to the bootloader
[00:43] <GridCube> at least on vboxes
[00:44] <luroh> well, if you have networking, you can do a netboot and perhaps there are other ways as well
[00:45] <knome> GridCube, hmm. i didn't have PAE enabled and i was able to install 12.04.
[00:45] <GridCube> oh
[00:45] <GridCube> well
[00:45] <GridCube> on alternate i could not
[00:45] <GridCube> well, my memory might be failing on me
[00:46] <luroh> hm, no, that should fail actually
[00:51] <aicasn> i managed to get myself into a live cd session. the irc client isn't too user-friendly but i can access the linux partitions from here
[00:52] <aicasn> so....  there was an xorg.conf as knome said there would be.  i renamed it so that we'd be back to the stock no-xorg.conf situation
[00:53] <aicasn> did absolutely no good, unfortunately. i rebooted and still got the same results
[00:53] <aicasn> i've already fsck'd my partitions. they came out fine
[00:54] <aicasn> can you guys see what i'm typing?  is this irc client being stupid?
[00:56] <aicasn> can you hear me now?
[00:56]  * aicasn taps the mic
[01:01] <knome> need to go to bed, see you
[02:01] <ToZ>  /msg NickServ identify heynow
[02:06] <bazhang> ToZ, time to change passwords
[02:10] <ToZ> already done.
[06:33] <Os_Maleus> good morning all!
[06:34] <Os_Maleus> does somebody have a Nexus (not "one", not "s" but simply nexus) and running his/her PC under xfce? and if, how is it possible to mount it manually over USB as a mass storage with a fast data-transfer rate?
[06:37] <pleia2> Os_Maleus: hm, I didn't think there was a "nexus" (not the galaxy nexus?)
[06:38] <pleia2> I know the galaxy nexus has problems because it's not using plain usb storage anymore like the One and the S did
[06:38] <Os_Maleus> pleia2: Google Galaxy Nexus. ... the i9250.
[06:38] <pleia2> have to use MPT for that, I hear it's kind of a pain
[06:39] <Os_Maleus> it is.
[06:39] <pleia2> but no, there isn't a way to mount it the old fashioned way :(
[06:39] <Os_Maleus> I would like to root it but I didn't manage until now.
[06:39] <Os_Maleus> :-( that is pretty awful.
[06:40] <pleia2> I agree, I was annoyed when I heard (sticking with my Nexus S!)
[06:41] <Os_Maleus> I managed to mount it as a camera. and having (properly fast) access to the data section. ... but I (actually still as a newbe regarding Linux) was thinking that this can't be the final solution.
[06:41] <omnom> Shouldnt it be able to do with ifuse?
[06:43] <Os_Maleus> omnom: it can. but then the connection is slow like the data-transfer over IR 10 years ago!
[06:43] <pleia2> ifuse is worse than just MPT
[06:45] <omnom> never had an android so I cant really say
[06:45] <Os_Maleus> pleia2: hmmm. what exactly do You mean by "just MTP", if I may ask? .... You are putting the setting on the phone onto MTP and ... then?
[06:46] <omnom> I mainly just transfer my files over wifi
[06:47] <pleia2> Os_Maleus: I haven't used it (my fiance has the galaxy, but he uses a Mac), but there are some loaders in linux that can read data from the phone once it's put into MPT mode
[06:47] <Os_Maleus> omnom: hmmmm. I wouldn't like to transfer my private keys (for encryption and so on) over the wifi.
[06:48] <omnom> can't u setup a private temporary network from the phone?
[06:48] <Os_Maleus> pleia2: I see.
[06:48] <omnom> that would be more or less safe
[06:48] <omnom> the range aint that far
[06:49] <pleia2> Os_Maleus: there are a few sites that give tips if you use this google search: galaxy nexus ubuntu
[06:49] <omnom> how old is the nexus?
[06:49] <omnom> 3yrs?
[06:50] <pleia2> the nexus one is 2.5, S is 1.5, Galaxy is only about 6 months
[06:50] <pleia2> give or take
[06:50] <omnom> k
[06:51] <omnom> getting new phone tomorrow
[06:51] <Os_Maleus> pleia2: I was searching over weeks about that. ... friends helped me to get the mounting done with "gvfs-mount" during the last week.
[06:51] <omnom> :D
[06:51] <pleia2> Os_Maleus: *nod*
[06:52] <Os_Maleus> omnom: yes, this phone is one of the newest from google
[06:52] <omnom> got to choose between galaxy S2 or iPhone 4S
[06:52] <omnom> picked the iPhone 4S :/
[06:54] <Os_Maleus> :-)
[06:54] <omnom> but the galaxy doesnt feel like the same kind of quality
[06:54] <omnom> so fuck it
[06:54] <pleia2> please watch your language here
[06:55] <pleia2> the galaxy nexus is a very nice phone (not like the other galaxy branded androids, which I don't love)
[06:56] <omnom> Aren't they all mainly plastic?
[06:57] <pleia2> the nexus one was metal, but the rest are plastic, but nice plastic :)
[06:58] <omnom> :)
[07:00] <pleia2> after midnight, pumpkin time so off to bed, good luck Os_Maleus!
[07:01] <Os_Maleus> good night pleia2!
[07:02] <Os_Maleus> omnom: I was selling digital cameras, years ago. they told us, the product would be aluminium. that was a lie.
[07:03] <Os_Maleus> plastics can be delivered in that many kind that one can believe it would be really metal. but in fact it remains: plastic.
[07:04] <Os_Maleus> omnom: so: have You opened that piece once and scrached it deeply? have You convinced Yourself that there is not just a bit lead inside somewhere? :-D
[07:10] <omnom> well lead is a metal Os_Maleus :P
[07:14] <Os_Maleus> omnom: sure! taken by word, You won in this case. :-D
[07:47] <BlakJak> Dumb question... if I am running an x86_64 ubuntu image at the moment, and I want to move to xubuntu, am I stuck with i386 or should I be able to run the amd64 image on my Intel i5 based machine?
[07:50] <BlakJak> Ugh... seems my download is corrupt.. md5sums dont match.. perhaps that's my problem.
[07:55] <forestpiskie> you'll have to get it again then - try using a torrent for it
[07:59] <Aucun> When I use the "install inside windows" option from wubi, does that allow me to use linux without rebooting from windows?
[08:00] <TheSheep> Aucun: of course not
[08:00] <TheSheep> Aucun: for that you would need to use a virtual machines
[08:00] <TheSheep> Aucun: like vmware
[08:01] <Aucun> vmware would allow me to have windows and linux running at the same time?
[08:02] <BlakJak> a Virtual Machine is a computer running inside another computer
[08:02] <BlakJak> so your 'guest' and your 'host' can be different OSs
[08:02] <BlakJak> or you can run multiple guests of various OSs
[08:03] <Aucun> This is going off the channel topic but I'm looking for a way to basically "alt tab" from windows to linux and back again.
[08:04] <BlakJak> virtualisation is the way to go.
[08:04] <BlakJak> vmware is one option
[08:04] <BlakJak> virtualbox is another
[08:04] <BlakJak> i use the latter personally
[08:05] <Aucun> Thank you, I'll look at those two.
[08:07] <TheSheep> Aucun: another way is to have two computers, one running linux the other windows, and connect them together with Synergy
[08:07] <BlakJak> download has 50 mins to run... battery reports 55mins left.... hmmm
[12:56] <diarmuid> Hello?
[12:57] <diarmuid> Is there anyone here?
[12:59] <Marzata> yes,
[13:00] <diarmuid> How do I get the little launcher onto the bottom of xbuntu??
[13:00] <diarmuid> Nearly like a mac you could say
[13:00] <Marzata> add launcher?
[13:00] <Marzata> but before add panel
[13:01] <diarmuid> Okay so how would I go about that then?
[13:02] <alphalupi> Are you asking how to get, for instance, a program icon on the bottom launcher?
[13:04] <diarmuid> Okay let me explain, I just installed xbuntu on my system. I seen some screenshots with xbuntu having like a little toolbar at the button of the desktop with little icons for the the users favourite programs like firefox etc
[13:05] <diarmuid> I kind of looks like a mac desktop if you get me??
[13:05] <alphalupi> OK, I think it goes like this: left click on the panel with the Applications Menu and click on Panel -> Panel Preferences
[13:05] <alphalupi> A window will pop up with the title "Panel"
[13:06] <alphalupi> Under the header, there will be a drop down box, probably labeled with "Panel 1"
[13:06] <alphalupi> Next to that there is a plus button. Click it and a new panel will appear.
[13:08] <alphalupi> You can modify the new panel with the Panel Preferences window.
[13:08] <diarmuid> I can see there is two panels Panel1 and Panel2, Panel1 is at the top and Panel2 is the little launcher bar that I was looking in the first place, do i just uncheck automatically show and hide panel?
[13:09] <alphalupi> It looks like you can just open Panel Preferences and uncheck the checkbox saying "Automatically show and hide the panel".
[13:09] <alphalupi> Note that I am using Xubuntu and not pure Xfce, so it may be slightly different.
[13:10] <diarmuid> yes thats what I did, yeah I understand but you still brought me to my question cheers.
[13:11] <alphalupi> Which panel did you click on to get the preferences dialog? You have to make sure the dropdown box has the right panel selected. The launcher panel is Panel 2.
[13:11] <diarmuid> If only I could figure out how to add new items
[13:11] <diarmuid> yeah I selected panel2 its working now
[13:12] <alphalupi> You just left click on the launcher panel, go to Panel -> Add new items.
[13:12] <diarmuid> Yeah I got it aswell, if I would only mess around with things a little longer I could of figured it out thanks for the help. :)
[13:13] <alphalupi> There's a whole list of options to add to the panel, including a launcher that you can use to add new applications do the dock.
[13:13] <alphalupi> My pleasure.
[13:14] <Marzata> and my
[13:14] <diarmuid> Now trying to center the thing with separators is a pain in the butt.
[13:14] <alphalupi> Does anyone know if setting up a Samba server on pure Xubuntu is as easy as setting one up on stock Ubuntu?
[13:15] <Marzata> diarmuid: default Ubuntu 11.10 comes with such a panel.
[13:16] <diarmuid> Ubuntu would not run smooth on my system very old...
[13:16] <alphalupi> Just in case you're having trouble with that, you can move items around by left clicking on them and clicking Move. Then you can put the item anywhere on the dock.
[13:17] <alphalupi> Including spacers
[13:18] <diarmuid> Yeah, but i'm trying to center them don't have a clue how to but.
[13:18] <Marzata> diarmuid: default XUbuntu 11.10 comes with such a panel.
[13:18] <Marzata> sorry
[13:19] <diarmuid> Yeah I know I am using the default panel that comes with XUbuntu just need a little help configuring it.
[13:19] <alphalupi> It seems to me that Xfce centers the whole dock. By adding an item, the entire dock expands, with no option to center individual items.
[13:21] <alphalupi> You can add a new line to the panel by left clicking on the separator, going to Properties, and using the drop down box to select New Line.
[13:25] <diarmuid> Got it centered, all I had to do was uncheck "Lock Panel" and move the thing into the center such a beginner :D
[13:25] <alphalupi> Glad you found it.
[13:25] <diarmuid> Thanks for the help guys appreciate it.
[13:27] <alphalupi> Is anybody else in here? I also have a question.
[13:30] <diarmuid> Anyone know if there is a way to stream videos/movies from a system running XUbuntu to an Xbox 360?
[13:40] <alphalupi> How do you configure a samba share on pure xubuntu?
[13:40] <alphalupi> Is it the same as on stock Ubuntu?
[13:58] <diarmuid> Have you tried the ubuntuforums.org alphalupi?
[13:59] <alphalupi> I'm looking right now but I don't really see anything applicable.
[14:03] <diarmuid> Then make a new thread the community there will help you with anything and just about an ubuntu distro they support lubuntu and xubuntu also.
[14:04] <alphalupi> I'll do that. Thanks.
[14:52] <craigbass1976> what's the best way to view a remote desktop in xfce?  I've got tightvncserver running, but it's exporting display :1.  I want :0
[14:54] <skrite> you can set which display it exports via options, i think.
[14:54] <holstein> craigbass1976: i just use vino and vinagre usually, but i like remmina
[14:54] <skrite> you want xfce to be the desktop you view or serve?
[14:54] <craigbass1976> holstein, I thought vino was a gnome specific rig.  No?
[14:54] <holstein> craigbass1976: i use it in XFCE
[14:55] <craigbass1976> skrite, serve.  I'm on a fedora laptop trying to view
[14:55] <craigbass1976> It would have been quicker at this point to just drive up there...  Now I want to make it work just on general principle.
[14:58] <craigbass1976> sudo tightvncserver :0   Warning: counter-right:0 is taken because of /tmp/.X0-lock   Remove this file if there is no X server counter-right:0   A VNC server is already running as :0
[15:20] <stephanb> hi, i got xubuntu 11.10 installed, is there a way to install unity as a second DE, without reinstalling? like is there a metapackage for the unity-desktop
[15:26] <TheSheep> ubuntu-desktop
[15:26] <stephanb> TheSheep: thanks
[15:27] <TheSheep> that will also install all the ubuntu default programs though
[15:29] <Marzata> and it will be a mess :D
[15:32] <stephanb> Marzata: why?
[15:35] <forestpiskie> you'll have lots of apps doing the same thing
[15:35] <forestpiskie> the xubuntu ones and the ubuntu ones
[15:39] <stephanb> that wont be a problem
[15:41] <Rourick> just wanna say new user from win7 and i love my xubuntu :)
[16:04] <grifo74> hello i'm a ubuntu user but in last year after i install ubuntu i install xfce and allways use xfce it's better i use xubuntu or install xfce in ubuntu
[16:04] <grifo74> ?
[16:13] <Marzata> grifo74: clean install recommended.
[16:14] <grifo74> thanks
[16:15] <grifo74> all software work in ubuntu work fine in xubuntu to
[16:16] <forestpiskie> I've nor found anything that doesn't
[16:21] <grifo74> it is easy update xubuntu 11.10 to 12.04 without format my pc
[16:22] <Marzata> grifo74: not easier than that.
[16:34] <mogitaff> Hello, how can I regenerate Kernel modules for virtualbox on ubuntu 12.04 without /etc/init.d/vboxdrv (this script is missing :( ) please ?
[16:50] <popsch> how can I access aspell's dictionary wordlist from a shell script? the dictionary in /usr/var/aspell is stored in binary format
[16:52] <popsch> aspell dump master
[18:29] <grifo74> how i share a folder
[18:44] <recon_lap> grifo74: this probably worth a read https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-classic/internet/C/networking-shares.html
[19:47] <monser> hello all
[19:47] <monser> how to delete all locales set on the machine?
[21:32] <omido> hi
[21:33] <GridCube> hi
[21:34] <omido> GridCube: how can i find if my laptop is certified to work with xubuntu or other distros? i only know this about ubuntu from this page : http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201011-6830
[21:36] <GridCube> if it works well with ubuntu, it should work faster with xubuntu. in the  core they are the same
[21:36] <omido> I have visual bugs on ubuntu 11.10
[21:36] <omido> Everything is ok on ubuntu 10.10 and 11.04
[21:37] <GridCube> xubuntu uses the same drivers
[21:37] <GridCube> tho it doesnt use the same composition software
[21:37] <GridCube> it uses its own
[21:37] <GridCube> so you might not experience the same problems
[21:38] <GridCube> however don't go expecting xubuntu to behave exactly like old gnome2 did, xubuntu uses xfce so it will be different
[21:38] <GridCube> it will be awesomely different however
[21:40] <omido> Right now i'm using openSUSE 11.4 x86_64 with KDE. I'm planning to install XFCE desktop and test it.i also have downloaded xubuntu 11.10 x86_64 and tested it using live cd but i cannot install it on virtualbox and i dont know why.it complains about 64bit mode.anyway thankyou for the information
[21:42] <GridCube> noproblem
[21:42] <BlakJak> omido: Within Virtualbox I had to use the 32bit edition
[21:42] <BlakJak> (i386)
[21:42] <omido> BlakJak: I wonder why because the host OS is 64bit.
[21:42] <BlakJak> but that could've been due to my corrupt 64bit image file (discovered much later)
[21:42] <BlakJak> omido: md5sum check on your iso pass ok?
[21:42] <omido> I have the issue with other 64bit OS too.not only xubuntu.
[21:43] <GridCube> omido, you should ask at #vbox
[21:43] <BlakJak> If you have the problems with other guest OS's under Virtualbox I suggest you need to go to #vbox
[21:44] <omido> Thankyou guys.
[21:45]  * BlakJak waits impatiently for xubuntu 12.04b1 to finish running post-install updates
[21:46] <BlakJak> anyone aware of any major instabilities in 12.04b1 that'd suggest I shouldnt start using it for my work/production desktop?
[21:46] <knome> BlakJak, well, it's beta. there might always be surprises
[21:46] <BlakJak> yeah, aside from the obvious 'it's a beta'
[21:47] <knome> there shouldn't be much problems.
[21:47] <BlakJak> currently running ubuntu 10.10 dual-booted... looking to skip Unity
[21:47] <BlakJak> ... going to drag all my personal stuff across from Ubuntu today all going well
[21:48] <omido> I once tested fedora 15 beta and started to use it for production and after few days i had fun.....
[21:48] <BlakJak> Mmmmm I couldn't see the point in fussing with 11.10, esp as I wish to use the LTS...
[21:49] <BlakJak> ooh. updates finished. reboot...
[21:56] <BlakJak> Ok... it appears dual-screen configuration isn't so hot
[21:58] <nishttal2> hi guys... i am trying to setup compiz on xubuntu 11.10.. when i try the compiz --replace command i get the following errors... http://www.fpaste.org/h31w/
[22:03] <TheSheep> !compiz | nishttal2
[22:04] <nishttal2> TheSheep, ok will review that
[22:05] <TheSheep> nishttal2: just go ask in #compiz :)
[22:05] <nishttal2> TheSheep, i did no response
[22:06] <TheSheep> looks like it's missing some themes, did you try to google that?
[22:35] <BlakJak> Xubuntu and Dual-screen, in case it helps anyone... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11762852#post11762852
[22:39] <Starn> can i copy my xubuntu partition to another hard drive? the one it's on is dying..
[22:39] <BlakJak> dd if=/dev/sourcepartition of=/dev/destpartition
[22:40] <BlakJak> where sourcepartition is likely to be something like 'sda1' and destpartition is likely to be something like 'sdb1'
[22:40] <BlakJak> sda1 is the first partition of the first sata disk.. sdb1 is the first partition of the second sata disk
[22:40] <BlakJak> actual values depend on your hardware
[22:41] <BlakJak> you may want to consider something like ddrescue if you're pulling from a dying hdd tho
[22:42]  * BlakJak bbl
[22:43] <Starn> like can gparted clone the partition and put it onto another hard drive and still be bootable?
[22:49] <Starn> omido, your processor must support virtualization to do it with 64bit.. at least that was my case.. now i can test 64bit os's freely.
[22:51] <Starn> i forgot what it was called but for it for work for me omido i had to load up into my bios and enable a function.
[22:54] <Starn> i guess i need to boot into one of my other linux installs and hope it can save the one installed on my hard drive and hope it doesn't die while trying to save the data...