[02:40] <bigjools> shadeslayer: your libdc1394 fix for digikam worked
[02:41] <bigjools> shadeslayer: I don't get anything in the device notifier when I plug in, FWIW (not related to this fix)
[08:06] <Riddell> bonjour
[11:10] <shadeslayer> bigjools: weird, I do get a notification
[11:11] <shadeslayer> /tmp/buildd/digikam-2.5.0/extra/kipi-plugins/advancedslideshow/widgets/slideshowgl.cpp:249:18: error: 'GL_PROJECTION' was not declared in this scope
[11:13] <shadeslayer> !find GL/gl.h
[11:31] <Riddell> shadeslayer: on arm?  arm doesn't do GL
[11:31] <Riddell> it does gles
[11:31] <Riddell> so kipi-plugins needs fixed to detect that and turn off GL upstream or just add a config option or patch to disable it downstream
[11:37] <shadeslayer> hmm
[11:39] <Riddell> shadeslayer: how does digikam-2.5.0/extra/kipi-plugins relate to kipi-plugins, is it a copy of the code?
[11:40] <shadeslayer> don't think so, lemme check
[11:45] <shadeslayer> heh
[11:45] <shadeslayer> Riddell: digikam is the source package that provides kipi-plugins
[11:45] <shadeslayer> there's no seprate kipi-plugins package
[11:45] <shadeslayer> s/package/source/
[11:45] <kubotu> shadeslayer meant: "there's no seprate kipi-plugins source"
[11:46] <Riddell> shadeslayer: oh ok
[11:47] <Riddell> so aye, fix it upstream or downstream-with-moaning-to-upstream as you see fit
[11:47] <shadeslayer> Riddell: uh, how would one go about doing that?
[11:48] <Riddell> shadeslayer: fixing it?  by adding a patch which only gets applied on arm that disables the advancedslideshow directory in CMakeLists.txt I expect is easiest
[11:49] <Riddell> although I don't think I've used platform specific patches with quilt 
[11:50] <Riddell> or just set whatever variable advancedslideshow needs to compile to false, I expect there's a variable a bit like GL_ENABLED that can be set
[11:50] <Riddell> on arm
[11:50] <shadeslayer> I'll look into it
[11:57] <shadeslayer> Riddell: could you upload https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental/+files/libdc1394-22_2.1.3-4ubuntu1.dsc ?
[11:59] <tsdgeos> Riddell: http://codereview.qt-project.org/#change,19692 <-- real crash fix for the evil thai fonts stuff
[12:03] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:25] <shadeslayer> Riddell: dpkg-architecture -qDEB_HOST_ARCH would return 'armhf' on a armhf builder right?
[12:25] <shadeslayer> in which case, how does one use the or operator in debian/rules ? :P
[12:26]  * shadeslayer doesn't see a way to use the or operator in makefiles
[12:46]  * shadeslayer crosses fingers
[13:24] <agateau> Riddell: hey, it seems we have two different packages for zanshin
[13:24] <agateau> Riddell: one by you, updated by me, one by fabo
[13:29] <agateau> fabo: are you going to package zanshin 0.2.1? (I have it in my PPA right now)
[13:31] <shadeslayer> digikam building on ARM, and I'm going out for a while 
[13:31] <shadeslayer> cya
[13:46] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: oh boy, you should have announced your dev interview on thursday, now I got too much time to come up with questions :P
[13:47] <apachelogger> they are the evil
[13:48] <ScottK> Did bulldog98_ decide if he wanted to piggyback onto the same kubuntu-dev meeting?
[13:48]  * ScottK recalls some discussion of it.
[13:51] <apachelogger> he'd better not, my questions are too dangerous this time around, could totally cause brain dmg
[14:02] <ScottK> As long as he goes second, you'll be too tired.
[14:15] <apachelogger> ScottK: well, I only have to paste questions, hardly tiresome ;)
[14:16] <ScottK> Well, if you aren't going to analyze the answers it'll go much easier on shadeslayer.
[14:16] <apachelogger> I trust others will do that for me
[14:18] <Riddell> agateau: ah zanshin is still on my todo list, let me know what you want done with it
[14:20] <agateau> Riddell: it's a bit weird: zanshin 0.2.0 is in universe, as a brand new package created by fabo, but I have 0.2.1 in my PPA, as an update to the Oneiric package you created... not sure what to do (other than putting 0.2.1 in universe)
[14:21] <Riddell> tsdgeos: ug remind me again how I recover my password for qt-projects?
[14:21] <Riddell> agateau: 0.2.1 in universe seems optimal :)
[14:22] <Riddell> shadeslayer: oh nice catch on the digikam fix
[14:22] <agateau> Riddell: we should merge the description from fabo package, it looks nicer, want me to do it?
[14:23] <Riddell> agateau: sure
[14:38] <agateau> Riddell: what should I do with zanshin changelogs? our package has history from 0.1+svn versions, fabo package has 0.2.0-1 as its initial release.
[14:39] <agateau> or rather: fabo package only entry in changelog is 0.2.0-1, initial release
[14:39] <fabo> agateau: Riddell: you've got the situation in good hand :)
[14:40] <agateau> fabo: ?
[14:40] <fabo> you don't need me anymore, right?
[14:41] <fabo> agateau: I can update to latest one and upload if you want
[14:41] <agateau> fabo: sounds good to me :)
[14:41] <fabo> agateau: deal :)
[14:51] <Riddell> ug, qt-project.org is too hard to use :(
[14:52] <Riddell> I've only been using the web for 16 years why is it hard to make a login I can use
[14:57] <Riddell> "The existing username and/or password you submitted are not valid" what does that even mean?
[14:57] <Riddell> does my username exist or not
[15:07] <ScottK> They won't tell you for sekurity reasons.
[15:17] <tsdgeos> Riddell: to be honest no idea how to get the password
[15:17] <tsdgeos> Riddell: you sure you had one?
[15:17] <Riddell> I think I'm nearly there
[15:17] <Riddell> no.  I'm not.
[15:17] <Riddell> I can log into https://qt-project.org/
[15:18] <Riddell> but not http://codereview.qt-project.org
[15:18] <tsdgeos> really?
[15:18] <tsdgeos> i think it's different stuff thouh
[15:18] <Riddell> could changing my password on https://qt-project.org/ mean I need to wait for it to be synced to http://codereview.qt-project.org ?
[15:18] <tsdgeos> codereview sahres the password with the bugtracker
[15:19] <tsdgeos> can you log into https://bugreports.qt-project.org ?
[15:21] <Riddell> yes but it's a different password right enough
[15:21] <Riddell> ooh and it works for http://codereview.qt-project.org
[15:21] <Riddell> phew
[15:22] <Riddell> I think I'll write those down for extra security
[15:22] <Riddell> tsdgeos: do you know if QWidget has a maintainer in qt-project now?
[15:22] <Riddell> fregl: does Qt have such a think as a designer? (query from canonical designer)
[15:23] <tsdgeos> Riddell: no idea
[15:23] <fregl> Riddell: Qt no, Nokia yes
[15:23] <Riddell> fregl: anyone suitable if canonical designers want to discuss the finer details of sliders and scrollbars?
[15:24] <fregl> Riddell: in qml or qwidget?
[15:24] <Riddell> fregl: qwidget
[15:25] <Riddell> qt dudes, what am I doing wrong here with git? http://paste.kde.org/439736/
[15:25] <Riddell> it's what codereview told me to do to get a patch
[15:25] <fregl> not sure anyone currently is up to the task. do they want the overlay stuff that they did to gtk?
[15:26] <fregl> Riddell: this needs to be done in an existing checkout of the git repo
[15:27] <Riddell> fregl: it wasn't clear but I think they're looking at changing single click to be "move to that point" not "move towards that point"
[15:28] <fregl> Riddell: why does that need designers talking to us? I guess none of us here is going to implement such a feature, so if canonical wants it, they'll most likely have to contribute it
[15:28] <Riddell> fregl: yes and they're wanting to know if it can go upstream
[15:28] <fregl> we are currently more than busy getting qt5 into shape...
[15:29] <fregl> ah, that is a valid concern, generally I think that is something we'd accept
[15:30] <Riddell> groovy, I'll tell them qwidget is not well maintained but if they submit it chances are someone will look at it
[15:30] <Riddell> I can't find a way to just download a patch from http://codereview.qt-project.org
[15:30] <fregl> yes, reviews will definitively be done
[15:30] <fregl> I don't think you can download just a patch
[15:31] <fregl> you can look at the diff and you can grab it with the fetch...
[15:31] <Riddell> hmm, that means keeping a large qt checkout around, ho hum
[15:31] <fregl> yes
[15:32] <fregl> but that's what everyone wants anyway, right :p
[15:32] <Riddell> it's your devious plan to turn us all into Qt hackers!
[15:33] <fregl> on a more serious note, I agree that it's silly that you can't download a patch
[15:34] <fregl> sounds like a missing gerrit feature
[15:35] <fregl> Riddell: you could grab the same patch from gitorious since that mirrors it anyway. of course only after it was approved. that is the right way to go anyway...
[15:35] <Riddell> fregl: oh?  it's this I'm after http://codereview.qt-project.org/#change,19692
[15:35] <Riddell> where can I get that in gitorious
[15:35] <Riddell> ?
[15:37] <fregl> Riddell: well, it says merged, since gitorious mirrors all commits... http://qt.gitorious.org/qt/qt but how to find a commit there is a mystery to me
[15:38] <fregl> http://qt.gitorious.org/qt/qt/commit/827e5c4c689d4ecb4f8c1ab48c9a7ab712fe2ca7
[15:38] <fregl> well, it was the newest commit
[15:39] <fregl> so qt-project == people actively working on patches => gitorious == read only mirror as soon as a patch is in, of course that doesn't have patches that are being reviewed
[15:52] <Riddell> lovely, thanks fregl 
[15:52] <fregl> np
[16:27] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: nooooo
[16:27]  * shadeslayer is scared now
[16:28] <shadeslayer> something came up tomorrow night, which is why I chose Friday
[16:29] <shadeslayer> ScottK: see libdc1394-22 FFe + Sync bug
[16:29] <shadeslayer> bug 954154
[16:33]  * shadeslayer pokes pbuilder-dist to pick it up
[16:35] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Let's do it.
[16:35] <shadeslayer> :D
[16:37] <shadeslayer> can you close multiple bugs when syncing packages?
[16:55] <micahg> shadeslayer: yes, pass -b multiple times to syyncpackage
[16:55] <micahg> *syncpackage
[16:55] <shadeslayer> cool!
[16:55]  * shadeslayer doesn't have sync rights, was just interesting
[16:55] <shadeslayer> *interested
[16:56] <micahg> shadeslayer: you're not a kubuntu dev yet?
[16:56] <shadeslayer> *cough* nope *cough*
[16:56] <shadeslayer> micahg: I've applied, meeting on Friday
[16:57] <shadeslayer> *hopefully* apachelogger won't massacre me 
[17:01] <Riddell> shadeslayer: just give him some jagermeister before the meeting
[17:01] <shadeslayer> Hmm, I guess I should start making arrangements for that :D
[17:08] <apachelogger> you'd better
[17:08] <apachelogger> also you should read the entire debian policy to prepare
[17:11] <ScottK> micahg: libdc1394-22 is core anyway, so kubuntu-dev wouldn't help this particular one.
[17:15] <shadeslayer> LS
[17:15] <shadeslayer> :S
[17:16] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you realize that does not work with caps on? :P
[17:16] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: I meant to type :S
[17:16] <shadeslayer> and accidently hit L
[17:22] <ScottK> shadeslayer: That doesn't bode well for Friday.
[17:22] <shadeslayer> nah, just trying to multitask ...
[17:23] <shadeslayer> and stop scaring me!
[17:23] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Give me the syncpackage command that gives you credit for the sync and closes all the bugs and I'll run it.
[17:23] <shadeslayer> hehe
[17:23] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Where would be the fun in that.
[17:23] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Not kidding.
[17:23] <ScottK> (about the syncpackage thing)
[17:23] <ScottK> I'm too tired to look it up.
[17:23] <shadeslayer> yeah, give me a minute
[17:27] <ScottK> micahg: Who's responsible for the annoying popup about some test profile thing in FF in precise?
[17:28] <micahg> ScottK: which version are you running?
[17:28] <ScottK> Whatever is in the archive.
[17:28] <shadeslayer> simulating
[17:28] <micahg> it's chrisccoulson either way, but if it's on in precise ATM, that's a big bug I think, as we shouldn't be enabling that in the stable firefox releases
[17:29] <shadeslayer> ah
[17:29] <ScottK> OK.  I dismissed it.  We'll see if it comes back.
[17:29] <shadeslayer> seems like Riddell uploaded my package
[17:30] <ScottK> --force and you're done then.
[17:30] <shadeslayer> yeah
[17:31] <shadeslayer> ScottK: syncpackage -d unstable -V 2.2.0-2 -s rohangarg -b 947785 -b 835687 -b 462453 -b 379088 --force libdc1394-22
[17:31] <shadeslayer> oh
[17:31] <shadeslayer> need to add another bug to that
[17:31] <shadeslayer> ScottK: syncpackage -d unstable -V 2.2.0-2 -s rohangarg -b 947785 -b 835687 -b 462453 -b 379088 -b 947785 --force libdc1394-22
[17:32] <shadeslayer> ... added the same bug twice ... *headdesk*
[17:32] <shadeslayer> first command is good to go
[17:33] <shadeslayer> omg ... digkam arm build at 18%
[17:33] <micahg> umm, I've never seen -V used with syncpackage before
[17:33] <micahg> but it's a valid option
[17:33] <shadeslayer> micahg: I like to be verbose
[17:33] <shadeslayer> less prone to errors
[17:33] <micahg> shadeslayer: -v is for verbose :P
[17:33] <shadeslayer> nope
[17:33] <shadeslayer> well
[17:34] <shadeslayer> uh yeah ...
[17:34] <micahg> shadeslayer: :)
[17:34]  * shadeslayer goes back to code
[17:38] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: so you meant to type S?
[17:38] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: no, :S
[17:39] <apachelogger> so I don't get it, stop confusing me
[17:39] <shadeslayer> :>
[17:41] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Done.
[17:41] <shadeslayer> yay
[17:52] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: so you confuse apachelogger, use wrong options in syncpackage commands, what else?
[17:52] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: wrong options in syncpackage?
[17:52] <apachelogger> -V for verbose
[17:53] <shadeslayer> huh? -V is used for specifying a version
[17:53]  * shadeslayer does not follow
[17:53] <apachelogger> "I like to be verbose"
[17:53] <shadeslayer> yes, by that I meant, I like specifying which version to sync
[17:54] <apachelogger> yeah, right, easy to say now :P
[17:54] <shadeslayer> -.-
[18:53] <ScottK> Riddell: Would you please look at qscintilla2 in New.  It's my upload, so I can't.
[19:03] <Riddell> ScottK: ok
[19:04] <ScottK> Riddell: Thanks.
[22:01] <MountainX> a standard install of Kubuntu 12.04 beta 1 (via alternate installer) appears to be missing /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache, /usr/share/applications/defaults.list and ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list. Can anyone else confirm this?
[22:16] <ScottK> MountainX: Do you have desktop-file-utils installed?
[22:16] <MountainX> checking...
[22:17] <MountainX> ScottK: no. "Package `desktop-file-utils' is not installed and no info is available."
[22:17] <ScottK> It doesn't seem like there's anything Kubuntish that would pull that in.
[22:17] <ScottK> That's what provides /usr/share/applications/defaults.list
[22:18] <ScottK> It looks like .local/share/applications/mimeapps.list is a gdm thing.
[22:19] <MountainX> ScottK: do you recommend I install desktop-file-utils in Kubuntu 12.04?
[22:19] <ScottK> I don't know why you think you need the files you're missing.
[22:20] <ScottK> I am guessing mimeinfo.cache is generated on system.
[22:21] <MountainX> ScottK: I am trying to solve a problem where Firefox doesn't know how to open downloaded files (or containing folders). My best guess so far is that some mime-type info is missing.
[22:22] <ScottK> I'd install desktop-file-utils then.
[22:22] <MountainX> Rekonq has the same (or similar) problem on my system.
[22:22] <ScottK> Rekonq is probably broken for unrelated reasons that shadeslayer will claim aren't it's fault.
[22:22] <ScottK> He'll be wrong.
[22:23] <MountainX> haha. yes, yesterday's conversation clued me in that these may be two separate issues.
[22:25] <MountainX> # update-desktop-database returns Error in file "/usr/share/applications/kde4/ktp-send-file.desktop": "all/allfiles" is an invalid MIME type ("all" is an unregistered media type)
[22:27] <ScottK> Hmm.  Another shadeslayer special.
[22:28] <ScottK> Hopefully his ears are burning and he wakes up.
[22:28] <MountainX> ok. thanks