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graingertanybody know why gnome-online-accounts is unavailable? http://pastebin.com/XdrfyQSC00:18
scientesgraingert, did you try apt-get update00:20
scientescause it works for me00:20
graingertmaybe they just got added00:21
scienteswell, i just did apt-get update && upgrade00:21
graingertanything to do with   * Update repository URL.00:21
scientesbut certainly a possibility, and it is expected to break that way momentarily while in beta00:21
graingertE: Package 'libgoa-1.0-common' has no installation candidate00:22
graingertis the root cause00:22
scientesyou sure you don't have debian sources in your sources.list?00:22
scientesits probably that ubuntu dropped ubuntu-specific changes while coming up to date with debian00:23
scientesand that changed some names or something00:23
graingerthttp://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libgoa-1.0-common&searchon=names&suite=precise&section=all not out yet00:24
graingerthttp://pastebin.com/6q4iy8Ly00:25
graingertmaybe gb is behined?00:26
graingerthttp://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/libgoa-1.0-0 note it says libgoa-1.0-common (= 3.3.0-1) [amd64]00:28
graingert    Package not available00:28
graingertI guess libgoa was doa00:28
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rufflestrism:  hey. remember me? i was asking earlier today about a lightdm flickering but after logout. it stopped happening after I created a user01:02
trismruffles: yeah that seems to have been the problem, the user list didn't have any entries since the "other" option was removed, mterry commited a fix, I imagine it will be resolved soon01:06
trismhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-greeter/+bug/95255701:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 952557 in unity-greeter (Ubuntu) "unity-greeter crashed with SIGSEGV in user_list_show_prompt() in live session" [High,Triaged]01:06
rufflesgreat! thank you!01:08
rufflesi believe bugs # 943193 and 935801 are both duplicates too01:08
rufflesok i've just marked 'em as duplicates of bug #95255701:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 952557 in unity-greeter (Ubuntu) "unity-greeter crashed with SIGSEGV in user_list_show_prompt() in live session" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95255701:11
rufflestrism:  ok i'm going to do some serious beta testing in here now. lol01:14
rufflesthanks for taking the time to help01:14
rufflescheers01:14
scientesDNSMASQ IS TOTALLY broken by Network Manager02:52
scienteshow do i get rid of that network manager dnsmasq crap-ware02:52
scientesand use a system dnsmasq02:52
scientesespecially cause its such crap that it install dnsmasq without installing the package02:53
scientesoh wait, its dnsmasq-base02:54
scienteshow do i unbreak it02:57
trismscientes: http://www.stgraber.org/2012/02/24/dns-in-ubuntu-12-04/ see "I really don’t want a local resolver, how can I turn it off?"03:08
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scientes"This dnsmasq server isn’t a caching server for security reason"03:15
scientesoh geeze03:15
scientesthen whats the point?03:15
diraolHi friends! I'm trying to "import" my wireless keys (password) from ubuntu 11.04 to ubuntu 12.0403:15
scientesdiraol, upgrade?03:19
scientesupgrade should work03:19
diraolhum... not... fresh install03:20
scientesahh well if its just one go to networkmanager and copy in down03:20
lupin3rdhey guys03:20
lupin3rdi got a little problem03:21
diraolsorry, i didn't understood what to do.03:21
diraolI no longer have my 11.04, but still have my ~/ files and folders03:21
diraoli'm trying to recover all my networks keys...03:21
lupin3rdok my little problem is that my fn key works for volume but not for the screen brightness but it worked fine in the live cd before i installed03:25
lupin3rdany ideas???03:26
scienteslupin3rd, that shouldn't happen03:26
lupin3rdyes i know03:26
lupin3rdworked fine in live cd03:26
lupin3rdnow once installed nothing03:26
scienteslupin3rd, ahhhhh actually, the live cd uses free drivers03:26
lupin3rdyes03:26
scientesmaybe you installed the non-free drivers for your graphics03:26
scientesand that broke it03:26
lupin3rdi havn't installed anything03:27
lupin3rdthats another problem i have03:27
scientesit does it automatically if you click "install third-party software"03:27
scientesin the installer03:27
lupin3rdoh03:27
lupin3rdi did that03:27
scientesyeah03:27
lupin3rdso how to stop that03:27
scientesremove the non-free driver03:27
lupin3rdhow03:27
scientesjockey-gtk03:28
scientesor go to system settings03:28
scientesyou should turn off the non-free driver anyways03:28
scientesnvidia or AMD/ATI ?03:28
lupin3rdamd/ati03:28
scientesyeah the AMD radeon free driver is pretty good these days, and getting better fast03:28
lupin3rdok03:28
scientesit has better 2D performance than the non-free driver03:28
lupin3rdok so i am in system settings03:29
scientes"hardware drivers"03:29
lupin3rddoesn't have hardware drivers03:30
lupin3rdyou mean additonal drivers?03:30
scientesyeah03:30
lupin3rdyes now waht03:32
lupin3rdalso thanks for this03:32
diraolnow you have to unninstal the video driver lupin3rd03:32
diraoland them, probably restart the OS.03:32
scientesyou click "remove"03:32
scientesand then yeah restart03:33
scientes(you can /etc/init.d/lightdm stop; rmmod fglrx, etc03:33
bjsniderhe hasn't even said fglrx is installed in the first place03:33
scientesbut easier to restart03:33
scienteswell he will see03:33
scientesin "additional drivers"03:33
lupin3rdbut the atiamd proprirtadriver  post release is not activated03:33
lupin3rdboth arn;t installed03:34
bjsniderthen you are certainly using radeon already03:34
scienteshmm, well then that isn't the problem03:34
lupin3rdwhen i install these drivers i have problems playing 720p movies so i don;t use them03:35
diraolso, any idea on how i can recover my wireless network password from 11.04 to 12.04?03:35
scientesdiraol, you can save it if you go to networkmanager03:35
scienteswrite it down03:35
diraolbut i no longer have the 11.04 OS03:35
scientesdiraol, well, what do you have?03:36
scientesdiraol, did you upgrade?03:36
diraolall my 11.04 $home files and folders.03:37
diraolno scientes, i've made a fresh install (but i have a full backup of /home partition).03:37
scientesdiraol, its not stored in /home (AFAIK)03:37
lupin3rdany idea guys with my brightness control03:37
scienteslupin3rd, all i can think of is  the "evtest"03:38
scientesbut that is more of a development thing, its more involved03:38
lupin3rdahh k03:39
lupin3rdbut why would it work in the live cd and not once installed03:39
scienteslupin3rd, as i said, that shouldn't happen03:39
diraol=/ i thought it was on ~/.gconf/system/network (where are the wireless networks informations)03:39
diraolbut ok, i'll try to install the 11.04 again with the same /home i had before and see if it works. Thanks scientes!03:39
scientesdiraol, i highly doubt it,03:40
scientesdiraol, cant you just ask someone for the wireless password?03:40
scientesdiraol, it might be, if it was configured locally03:40
scientesdiraol, use grep "unique part of the SSID of the wireless" -R .gconf03:41
scientes* ~/.gconf03:41
diraolscientes, there are so many networks.... but ok.03:42
diraoli think it would be configured locally, just for my user... that's why i think it would be on /home =)03:42
lupin3rdalso when i do install the amd/ati drivers i have problems watching 720p movies and the start up screen is in a lower res anyone heard of that03:42
diraoli'll try something like a "recover". If it works i'll come back and tell . =)03:42
scienteslupin3rd, is this an older computer?03:43
lupin3rdits a laptop03:43
scientescause the non-free drivers do not support some old cards03:43
lupin3rdquad core amd 1.803:43
lupin3rdamd 565003:43
lupin3rd4 gig ram03:43
scientesyeah thats pretty new03:43
lupin3rdnewish laptop03:43
lupin3rdi know03:43
lupin3rdi have tried alot of things with the gpu drivers03:44
lupin3rdonice i install the amd ones the movies jerky03:44
lupin3rd720p03:44
scientesthe VAAPU stuff for movie acceleration is pretty new, could be buggy, IDK03:44
scientes*VA-API03:44
lupin3rdbut with the standard drivers it works fine03:44
scientesand well, non-free drivers are buggy by default...03:45
lupin3rdyou think it would be the other way round03:45
scienteslupin3rd, the randeon driver doesn't use the hardware acceleration IIRC03:45
lupin3rdbut why the low res at startup with new drivers03:45
scienteslupin3rd, not at all, FOSS is OPEN-SOURCE, meaning anyone that has a problem and some skill can fix their problem (or hire someone to do it)03:45
scienteswith non-free the only person that can possibly address a problem is the person that wrote it, and can see the source03:46
lupin3rdahh k03:46
lupin3rdso i am stuck with the standard drivers03:46
lupin3rdthas ok thoi03:46
lupin3rdcause it runs better03:47
scienteshttp://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/cathedral-bazaar/ar01s04.html03:47
lupin3rdthat for me?03:47
scientes"8. Given a large enough beta-tester and co-developer base, almost every problem will be characterized quickly and the fix obvious to someone."03:47
scienteswell, the difference between non-free and FOSS stuff is a big one03:47
lupin3rdyeah03:47
lupin3rdok then03:47
scientesbasically with open-source stuff you have the ability to fix your problems, otherwise you are trapped03:48
lupin3rdalso03:48
lupin3rdwith this gay toshiba laptop03:48
scientesthats why its called "free software" (as in freedom)03:48
scientesmeh, thats not a bad laptop03:48
scientesbut yeah, this thing about your keys sucks03:48
lupin3rdto turn off wireless you need to hold the fn key down and press f8 but does not work in linux03:48
lupin3rdhow to turn off in terminal?03:49
lupin3rdlike the cmd03:49
scienteslupin3rd, you should be able to turn off from the network manager03:49
scientesjust right click03:49
scientesand uncheck "enable wireless"03:49
lupin3rdyes i can do that but the light still stays on03:49
lupin3rdin windows it turns off03:49
scientesbut it IS off03:49
scienteseven if the light is on03:49
lupin3rdin windows i turn it off the light goes off03:49
lupin3rdbut03:50
lupin3rdif i leave it off in windows and boot to linux03:50
lupin3rdi can;t turn it on03:50
lupin3rdget my point03:50
scientesyou can get more information in the /sys/devices03:50
scienteseek, that is horrible03:50
lupin3rdyeah03:50
scientespaste.ubuntu.com <-- paste the output of lspci -n03:51
lupin3rdhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/882755/03:52
lupin3rdi may have a way to fix my bightness03:52
scientesahh its the notorious broadcom wireless03:52
lupin3rdyeah03:53
lupin3rdhaha03:53
lupin3rdi know03:53
lupin3rdbut still why in windows when i turn it off the light goes off03:53
lupin3rdthen boot to linux can;t get it to work03:53
scientesi doubt it would work, but you could try a cold boot03:54
scientesi.e. take out the battery03:54
lupin3rdbut leave the light on and it disable it and enable it in linux03:54
lupin3rdbut my thoery is that03:54
lupin3rdif the light is on then its still on useing batteryt03:54
scienteswell with broadcom all my bets are off03:54
lupin3rdand thats why i get shit battery03:54
lupin3rd=]03:54
diraolbroadcom b43?03:55
lupin3rddont know03:55
lupin3rdall i know its a gay broadcom03:55
diraoli have and HP with the bcm43 broadcom wireless board and it's a hell to get it working.03:56
scientesBCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller03:57
diraolit has it's own will, some times work, some times doesn't. Mine is BCM4311 if i'm not mistaken...03:57
lupin3rdits working just tryint to turn it off03:57
lupin3rdalso i get shit battery life with this laptop03:58
diraolhum.... using network manager didn't work?03:58
lupin3rdwhat do you guys get03:58
lupin3rdin windows i even get shit time03:58
lupin3rdfucking gay amd quad core03:58
lupin3rdshit for battery03:58
scienteswell, thats not exactly a laptop made for battery life03:58
diraoli don't use windows at all....03:58
diraol(i agree with scientes rs)03:59
lupin3rdyeah03:59
scientesthe best battery life is with ARM03:59
diraoltoo much power.....03:59
lupin3rdfor my laptop i am using linux my main desktop i use windows cause of games04:00
* scientes wishes some ARM licencers would just make some netbooks, of even desktops with PCIE etc04:00
lupin3rd=]04:00
* scientes would suck up a octo-core ARM with PCIE USB3, etc04:00
scientesaka full-featured04:00
diraoli have a lenovo core i7 (dual core +  hyperthreading) and i can get 5hr battery.04:00
scienteswow04:00
diraolit's a lenovo.... on the beggining it was 9/10hr04:01
scientesoh wait, only dual core, but still04:01
scientesthats cause 45nm04:01
lupin3rdi get 2 hrs max04:01
lupin3rdits shit04:01
diraolyeah, i know how it is... my last laptop gave me less than 1hr04:02
lupin3rdyeah when i got it i wasnt really looking at that04:02
lupin3rdi just saw the price and the specs and went fuck it can even play games04:03
lupin3rdbut now i would have went for battery04:03
diraolhehehe... i have a desktop for gamming.... no games on laptop at all04:03
lupin3rdyeah my desktop is for games04:04
lupin3rdbut this thing can play bf304:04
lupin3rdon low tho =]04:04
diraolbtw, my OS recognizes 4 cores....04:05
lupin3rdyeah but your cpu is only duel04:05
lupin3rdso yeah about my brightness problem anyone?04:06
lupin3rdwhy in live cd it works and not in full istalled04:07
diraol<workarround>hum.... if you could find out the command to change the brightness, you could try to set the keybord bindings by hand</workarround>04:08
lupin3rdyeah thats true but why would it work in the live cfd04:09
lupin3rdand not now04:09
diraolhum... i'm too newbie to know how to fix it from now on. sorry =/04:11
lupin3rdthats ok04:14
lupin3rdi was just asking if anyone knew04:14
BlakJakrighto.. xubuntu problem.. 12.04b1... raft of dependency issues trying to install google earth...04:24
BlakJakia32-libs depending on ia32-libs-multiarch depending on a metric buttload of other stuff which is held back or  somesuch04:24
micahgBlakJak: not a bug, google earth will eventually learn how to depend on what they need04:31
micahgBlakJak: oh, it won't install? how are you trying to install it04:31
BlakJakpick a method :)04:32
BlakJakdpkg -i04:32
BlakJakor using the gui tool04:32
BlakJaksimilar dependency for the skype .deb as well04:32
micahgafter the dpkg -i, you need to run apt-get -f install04:32
BlakJakright...04:33
BlakJakeach time i do that, it wants to remove chromium-browser04:33
micahghmm, not sure why that would happen04:33
micahgcan you try apt-get with -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=true?04:34
BlakJaksorry, please clarify exaclty what syntax i should run?04:36
BlakJakis that with the -f install?04:36
snadgei managed to install skype, but it was non trivial04:37
BlakJakoh goodie04:37
BlakJakheh04:37
micahgBlakJak: sorry, apt-get -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=true -f install04:37
BlakJakk.. there's quite a bit of info in the answer to that04:38
micahgBlakJak: can you put it in a pastebin?04:38
BlakJakthis reminds me of rpm dependency hell04:39
BlakJakheh04:39
BlakJakhttp://pastebin.com/0Yz9C86d04:41
micahgBlakJak: looks like mirror skew, libxfixes is a different version on i386 and amd64, either use a different mirror or wait for it to catch up04:44
micahg*mirror arch skew04:44
ajmitchprobably using a mirror in NZ, too often they fall behind :)04:45
BlakJakI expect i'll see the guys who run the NZ mirror soon... i'll let them know ;-)04:46
* BlakJak switches to 'main' server and runs apt-get update04:46
ajmitchBlakJak: which one?04:46
BlakJakwell, statistically, any of them probably04:47
ajmitchnz2 used to point to mirror.ihug.co.nz but that fell too far behind :)04:47
BlakJaknot sure exactly which one 'server in new zealand' points to04:47
ajmitch'the NZ mirror' generally implies nz.archive.ubuntu.com, which is citylink04:47
BlakJakmarkf@hawkeye:~/Downloads$ host nz.archive.ubuntu.com04:47
BlakJaknz.archive.ubuntu.com is an alias for ubuntu.citylink.co.nz.04:47
BlakJakubuntu.citylink.co.nz has address 202.7.6.1004:47
BlakJakyeah. /me sends an ICQ msg to Citylink04:47
BlakJakoh, best set up ICQ first.04:48
ajmitchpeople still use that? :)04:48
BlakJakhaha04:49
BlakJakmy friend at Citylink is already ducking for cover04:49
BlakJakwow.. output of apt-get -f install is hugely different04:49
ajmitchhttp://mirror.ihug.co.nz/ubuntu/project/trace/ shows just how badly behind it got...04:50
ajmitchcitylink mirror looks only ~24h behind04:50
BlakJakimma let that run... 85 megs of downloads04:50
ajmitch(well, just going by the trace file)04:50
micahgBlakJak: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors#yui_3_2_0_1_13317004633223404:51
BlakJakajmitch: do I know you, or have we spoken before?04:51
ajmitchBlakJak: probably way back04:51
micahgdoh, that id was page load specifc04:51
ajmitchBlakJak: you were on #nzlug, right?04:52
BlakJakit had an irc channel? I suppose so :p04:52
BlakJaknzlinux maybe?04:52
ajmitchyeah I think that was it :)04:52
ajmitchit's been awhile04:52
BlakJakyeah, your nick is familiar tho04:53
ajmitchmaybe just from ubuntu stuff04:54
BlakJakarrrg the default sound prefs in pidgin are asinine04:54
BlakJakanother interesting point, btw... having installed side-by-side with my ubuntu 10.10 installation and ticking the box that said 'copy over my prefs and documents' during installation, nothing was copied over04:55
BlakJakperhaps coz i changed my username... but nothing else from /home was copied between installs... not a biggie.. but somewhat misleading04:55
BlakJakthis has been a good lesson.. when running a beta it pays to get your updates from as close to the hub as you can04:56
ajmitchyeah, archive.ubuntu.com is the best but probably slowest04:57
micahgBlakJak: if your mirror is reliable, it's not that bad unless you upgrading every hour04:57
BlakJakCitylink tell me that their mirror only updates daily04:57
* micahg uses mirror.anl.gov04:58
BlakJakthe guy who is the main admin for it no longer works for Citylink, not sure what the story there is...04:58
ajmitchthey could have mirrored at just the wrong time for a package to be out of sync between i386 & amd6404:58
ajmitchproblem is it takes a day to come right04:58
micahgright, also, both those versions have been superseded04:59
ajmitch3 uploads of that package in a couple of days04:59
BlakJakyay... skype works05:00
BlakJakso does google earth05:01
BlakJaktho the internal font is shyte05:01
BlakJakajmitch, micahg thank you very much for your assistance05:10
ajmitchno problem05:10
BlakJaki might lurk here for a bit :-) however it's hometime from work now.05:10
* BlakJak gone05:11
Mylenthesanyone there05:15
MylenthesAnyboody dere?05:23
crizzyain't this fun06:05
crizzysegfault again after setting mouse as evdev device..06:06
crizzynot sure what to make out of it, but backtrace leads back to libc..06:06
crizzylike straight from X binary to libc.. fun fun06:07
almoxarifeI want my dnsmasq conf to work! like it did without a hitch till YOU decided you wanted to keep dnsmasq all for your own selves, bad people, bad!06:25
Vonorhi07:40
Vonorjust installed 12.4 beta alternative in a vmbox  and right after the kernel is loaded i get an error: mountall: no connection to Plymouth07:40
lotuspsychjehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/55654207:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 553745 in plymouth (Ubuntu Maverick) "duplicate for #556542 plymouthd crashed with SIGSEGV in ply_event_loop_process_pending_events()" [High,Triaged]07:41
BlakJakright... so now that i've come home and booted up I don't have any window frames...08:05
BlakJakfound a reference to clearing ~/.cache/sessions but that doesn't seem to be helping08:05
BlakJakright.. had to install xfwm4 again... seems it'd gotten removed during my last update08:29
BlakJakodd...08:29
Vonorok, i tried with the daily cd from today (12.4 alternative amd64). if i install a normal desktop system it works just fine. if i install a commandline system it won't boot up (seems the splash crashed without giving any output. all I see is a black screen with a blinking underscore cursor)08:46
Vonorerm, never mind. seems the splash gets stopped after boot and there is no switch to tty1. if i switch tty's manually i get to the login prompt08:47
BlakJakanyone able to recommend a vnc client for xubuntu? or is it a case of pick any one?08:57
psypher246hi all, does anyone know how to restart the panel so that the systray whitelists apps reappear. since a few updates ago all my whitelists systray apps dissapear and I have to restart to get them them back, for a little while, I would like a workaround so that I don't have to restart09:04
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topylignome-shell in the gnome team ppa is broken, don't upgrade now09:54
Jeeves_Morning09:54
icerootwayland reached 12.0410:24
ikoniahas it ?10:25
ikoniait's it actually included ?10:25
icerootikonia: yes10:25
ikoniathat's come out of the blue10:25
icerootikonia: but the current gtk3 is not build with wayland enabled10:25
icerootikonia: atm i only have a german link10:25
ikoniais it being used as an extension or an alternative10:25
iceroothttp://www.golem.de/news/displayserver-wayland-und-weston-in-ubuntu-12-04-1203-90490.html10:25
ikoniadoes that mean someone has tested it10:26
icerootikonia: alternative which is not working atm because we have to rebuild gtk310:26
ikoniaas it "was" going to be included but never made it in10:26
ikoniais this link saying they have actually confirmed it IS in10:26
iceroothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/95435210:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 954352 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "Enable wayland backend" [Undecided,Confirmed]10:26
icerootikonia: yes10:26
ikoniainteresting10:26
icerootayland has one released version, 0.85, which is in the precise archives: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wayland/10:26
ikoniaI'll have to take a look at that, I looked at wayland on it's own a while back and it was usless as it had nothing it could do10:27
ikoniabe interesting to see how it's being used10:27
icerootikonia: at the moment you cant run wayland with gtk10:27
ikonianot really surprised10:27
icerootikonia: see bug report because gtk has to be compiled with wayland-enabled-foobar10:27
ikoniawhen I looked at it, it was totally worthless for any sort of use10:28
icerootand because of the feature freeze its not clear if gtk will be rebuild10:28
ikoniabut then it is new and no-one's really embraced it10:28
icerooteven 11.10 has wayland now10:29
almoxarifefound the get-around losing dnsmasq, install bind9 and force net-manager to dns from bogus10:29
icerootif i get that correct, kde4 can be used with wayland now, gnome/xfce/lxde not at the moment10:30
iceroothttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wayland/0.85.0-1ubuntu110:30
topyliit doesn't look like gtk+ will have wayland support in precise. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA3MDM10:31
iceroottopyli: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/95435210:31
ubottuLaunchpad bug 954352 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "Enable wayland backend" [Undecided,Confirmed]10:31
icerootbut because of the feature freeze i dont think they will rebuild gtk3 for 12.0410:32
icerootbut i bet 12.10 will have wayland as alternate and 13.04 as default :)10:32
topylican't remember where i read this today, but the maintainers would be willing to add wayland support. the real problem is that gtk won't build on ARM then10:33
topyliif they get that fixed, then it's another story10:33
icerootinteresting10:33
sliptteeshi all11:42
sliptteesthen11:42
sliptteessis 771/671 resolution problem11:42
sliptteeshttp://pastebin.com/vu3fPsj911:43
sliptteesndiswrapper won't work too11:44
slipttees=/11:44
sliptteesput my wfi module in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf11:45
sliptteesadd ndiswrapper in /etc/modules11:45
sliptteeswon't work11:45
sliptteeseveryone?11:47
vega-_wtf, now alt key pops up the search bar12:14
vega-_or unity search/lens whatever12:14
Daekdroomvega-_, that's HUD12:18
almoxarifeis it possible to change the key-short cut for krunner?12:30
almoxarifebtw, yes it is12:35
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uwehello, I want to test precise as a client for centralized authenticatin via ldap against 10.04 server; is there any discussions that i can be pointed14:18
uweto regarding this issue, since there are multiple packages regarding this issue ...14:19
Captain_Protonanyone else have alot of kept back packages "empathy empathy-common gnome-online-accounts  unity-common ectc" ?14:39
sbarcteamhi.14:40
Captain_Protonalso my Banshee menu intergration is broke meaning it does not show in the message menu14:40
sbarcteamI've installed a box by do-releas-upgrade -d -m server14:40
Captain_Protonhi14:40
sbarcteamthe machine completed the upgrade, and then failed to use the default kernel 3.2.xx-1814:41
Captain_Protoni woul not have, but ok14:41
sbarcteamI had to use the previous machine.14:41
sbarcteamsorry, s/machine/kernel/14:41
Captain_Protoncan you choose it in grub14:42
sbarcteam"I had to use the previous kernel" means I am currently still on it.14:43
sbarcteamso yes, I could choose either.14:43
Captain_Protonalso I would try to update-initramfs -u14:43
sbarcteamhm... isn't it run over during the upgrade ?14:44
Captain_Protonshould but it could have failed or who knows14:44
sbarcteamok.14:47
Guest70485How do I get gnome back ?14:49
Guest70485I did 'apt-get install gnome' and am waiting for the install. Does this include everything ?14:50
jokerdinoGuest70485: which one are you trying to install?14:53
jokerdinognome-fallback i presume?14:53
jokerdino!gnome-fallback14:53
sbarcteamCaptain_Proton: update-initramfs -u updates EXISTING initramfs.14:54
sbarcteamI want to update specific, not current.14:54
Guest70485I don't know, Unity interface is totally incompatible with mice, and lxde has too many limitations. I can't find anyway to use ubuntu14:54
accipteranyone else having problems with alt+tab working after the latest upgrade? the tab is now caught by the application. however, if i do alt+~ first then i can alt+tab through windows14:54
sbarcteamhm... Captain_Proton the initramfs line was missing. after running update-grub the lines appeared.14:55
sbarcteamrebooting now... hoping for the best.14:55
jokerdinoGuest70485: if you are trying to install the fallback the command is sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback14:56
Captain_Protonaccipter, there is a a check box to tell it to do all computer or per desktop but you need ccsm compiz-manager15:01
sbarcteamCaptain_Proton: it worked.15:01
sbarcteamwell, upgrade from lucid completed.15:01
sbarcteammany tails are probably remained, will sort them out now.15:02
Captain_Protonsbarcteam, sweet sorry I watch JOE's dad use ubuntu for the first time15:02
Captain_Protonhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ltE_ekc8kE815:02
qman__I'm having a problem with a 12.04 server, I installed a daily build a while ago and it's been working fine, but today I went to update it and it isn't working, none of the repositories hit15:03
qman__I notice it's looking for InRelease, and when I look at the repository, there is only Release15:03
qman__is there a way to fix that?15:03
uweis there a group of experts of matter or similar related to centralized authentication related issues. i think i saw this before but i'm unable to find it :S15:04
uweor group of individuals interested in this at least ...15:04
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qman__sources.list and errors I get: http://pastebin.com/Lwnm7c8f15:09
qman__nevermind, resolvconf broke dns, sorry for the false alarm15:11
david_I think Ubuntu 12.04 should be called 'Windows Vista beta 1'15:14
ironhalikuh?15:15
david_I switched to linux in 2006, I am switching back to Windows. Ubuntu 12.04 is unusable ( unity interface is unusable unless I type name of programs, which means I have to jump between my mouse and keyboard ), the alternative interfaces are missing basic fonctionality.15:16
icerootdavid_: [] you know what beta means15:16
david_Yes15:16
david_It means all the crashes I had should be reported if not already, but has nothing to do with the usability of the software.15:16
david_I am complaining about the performance and UI and not the fact that is is a beta.15:17
icerootdavid_: of course, bug does not mean error, its also something like a feature request15:17
david_it is*15:17
ironhalikfeel free to use the alternatives, including windows15:17
david_this version 12.04 will be a regression of bug #115:17
icerootdavid_: stop flaming15:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115:17
icerootdavid_: use kde, lxde, xfce4 or whatever you want15:17
icerootor report bugs what features you are missing15:19
uwedavid_, um, can you elaborate :)15:19
icerootbut dont flame in this channel, it makes you ignored very fast15:19
icerootwe are ALWAYS open for a usefull discussion, but this strange flaming is not needed here15:19
uweerr, sorry, i did not see comments after your initial one ...15:20
ironhalikhe left15:20
Sidewinder1Not a significant loss, IMHO.15:22
jbwivis anyone aware of a way to move the unity launcher bar? I have three monitors and it insists on staying on the left hand monitor...changing ~/.config/monitors.xml doesn't seem to change anything. This is on Ubuntu 2D.15:37
mcamaretjbwiv: there is a compiz addon to replace regular unity that moves the launcher to the bottom.15:37
mcamarethttp://www.webupd8.org/2011/11/install-ubuntu-unity-bottom-launcher.html15:38
jbwivmcamaret, does it work with 2d?15:38
jbwivI'm guessing not if it's a compiz plugin15:38
mcamaretno15:40
jbwivmcamaret, thanks anyway :(15:40
mcamaretjbwiv: I thought precise showed the launcher multiple times15:41
mcamareton seperate monitors15:41
jbwivmcamaret, that's not my experience so far on three monitors with xinerama15:44
jbwivand ubuntu 2d15:44
Q-FUNKseems that the new gogl/clutter breaks the current gnome-shell.  is there a new gnome-shell in incoming?15:49
Dreamanubuntu 12.04 is perfect15:50
Dreaman:)15:50
trismQ-FUNK: should be soon, was blocked on the clutter update: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/94175515:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 941755 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "FFe: Update gnome-shell/mutter to 3.3.90" [Undecided,Confirmed]15:55
Q-FUNKtrism: oh, good15:55
crondI've come to complain that I've nothing to complain about. 12.04 is running nice and stable-y.16:07
brendandcrond, you mean it's not the worst thing ever? another guy had me convinced it was :)16:09
crondbrendand, nah it's all humming along well for me, though, given that 11.10 has no video at *all* on my gpu, even in console, anything is an improvement ;)16:10
crondthe only crashes I've had are from stuff like the updater... the gui version.  apt-get upgrade works just fine :P16:10
crondcatalyst 12.2 + ubuntu 12.04 = great.16:13
zzecoolironhalik: ?  ;p16:25
scar3crownice job dev's!16:33
scar3crowwill there be options in "appearance" dialogue to scale, resize, tile the wallpaper?16:40
zzecoolscar3crow: it is there16:41
scar3crowreally... not on my machine :(16:41
scar3crowmaybe re-install?16:42
topyliahh. gnome-shell broke with this morning's update, a fix already available. yay gnome team16:42
zzecoolscar3crow: i dont htink16:42
zzecoolthink16:42
scar3crowk16:42
zzecoolprint screen your appearence dialog16:42
zzecooland post the SS here16:42
zzecoolim curious16:42
scar3crowwhere is file plz?16:42
zzecoolwhat file ?16:43
scar3crowoh dug wait16:43
zzecool;p16:43
scar3crowzzecool: http://edenprofessionalservices.dyndns.org/appearance.png16:45
zzecoolscar3crow: hmm strange16:45
scar3crowyep16:46
zzecoolare you fully updated ?16:46
scar3crowyep16:46
zzecoolmaybe im not the one16:46
zzecooli just check more updates landed16:46
zzecoolwait for me to update16:46
zzecooland check if it broken16:47
scar3crowand... is there an applet for the panel for alsa mixer?16:47
scar3crow(I uninstalled pulse for gaming)16:47
zzecoolah i dont rly know16:47
zzecoolwhats the problems with gaming and pulse?16:47
scar3crowno sound16:47
zzecoolduh16:47
scar3crowor sound lag16:47
zzecoolwhat are you playing ? =)16:48
scar3crowdoom 3 quake 416:48
zzecool=)16:48
scar3crow;)16:48
scar3crowgames run WAY better under ubuntu tan in winder$16:49
zzecoolglosoli:  :)16:49
glosolizzecool: hey :) how's going16:49
zzecooli found a very frustating bug16:49
zzecoolbased on the dodge removal16:49
* jokerdino thinks hard.16:50
glosolizzecool: name it16:50
zzecoolhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/93014816:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 930148 in unity (Ubuntu) "Dodge windows is down but what about making the launcher autohide only on maximised apps ?" [Wishlist,Confirmed]16:50
glosoliI found very big bug in whole Unity Design team.16:50
zzecoolits in the 3 latest comments by me16:50
zzecool:o16:51
zzecooltell me16:51
glosolizzecool: wait I will show you video.16:51
zzecoolok16:51
zzecoolcheck mine first :)16:52
zzecoolim login out brb16:52
zzecoolupdates16:52
zzecoolback16:54
zzecoolscar3crow: i did the latest update but im ok16:54
zzecooli think your install is borged16:55
scar3crowodd16:55
scar3crowyeah prolly16:55
zzecooltry to update using the main archive server16:55
zzecoolones more16:55
scar3crowwill wait tho16:55
glosolizzecool: that's not a bug by Dodge :)16:55
zzecooland restart16:55
scar3crowah, good call16:55
scar3crowwill do16:55
scar3crowbbiab16:55
scar3crowty zz16:55
zzecoolglosoli: that is based on the absence  of dodge16:55
zzecoolnp16:56
glosolizzecool: it's just a website or addon writed stupidly16:56
glosoli:)16:56
zzecoolthe website is tranforming based on your resolution16:56
zzecoolits a new tech  glosoli16:56
zzecoolyou are getting old16:56
jokerdinobootstrap16:56
jokerdino?16:56
glosoliAs I told you once, I will repeat, it's idiotic programmers problem not knowing how to make expandible gui :)16:57
zzecoolyes16:57
zzecool:)16:57
zzecoolits a way to understand and chenge the ui based on resolution , if you are a phone a tablet a small screen or a hude tv16:57
glosoliTHe same problem will consist in mac os x if you make dock to be in the left side of screen16:57
glosoli:)16:57
zzecoolhuge*16:57
glosolithere is no way you are getting dodge back :)16:58
jokerdinohighly unlikely yeah16:58
glosoliAnd for even showing that video, Mark will not even care of any other of your opinions16:58
jokerdinounity-2d still has dodge when i checked last time16:58
zzecoolfor reasons noones knows...16:58
zzecooljokerdino: yes16:58
glosolihttp://youtu.be/ltE_ekc8kE816:58
glosolihere is the reason16:58
glosoliThat video shows typical users16:58
glosoliwhich is majority of the world16:58
glosoliprogrammers and power users are the minority16:58
glosoliAnd you will see how hiding global menu items, and close max min when windos is closed affects usibility16:59
zzecoolglosoli: i watched the whole video this morning16:59
glosoliUNity Design team sometimes don't have any sense of user16:59
zzecoolhe isnt not confused at all by dodge16:59
zzecoolhe i s confused with everything else than dodge..........16:59
glosolizzecool: I didin't said about dodge16:59
zzecoolplease take some time and watch it16:59
glosoliI was talking about whole dsign concept16:59
glosoli:)16:59
zzecoolahh16:59
glosoliPeople don't like important things to be hidden from them16:59
zzecoolthe dodge was the first thing he discover17:00
zzecool......17:00
glosolizzecool: well yes, but he said he likes always seing it17:00
glosolinavigating quickly17:00
zzecoolthats true in terms of speed17:00
glosoliIf you watch whole his videos with Windows 8 and Mac OS X first time17:00
glosoliyou will understand17:00
zzecooli did17:00
glosoliJust for some geeks and power users17:00
glosolinobody cares17:00
glosoliand that's the point17:00
jokerdinoi would say showing launcher at all times be made default and dodge an option.17:01
jokerdinolike how the LIM seems to shape up17:01
zzecooljokerdino: true17:01
zzecoolbut there will be problems17:01
zzecoollike the video ihave posted on the bug report17:01
glosolizzecool: VIDEO IS NOT DODGE PROBLEM.17:01
glosoliContact developers17:01
zzecool.........17:01
glosoliof that piece of shit17:01
glosoliaddon you are using17:01
jokerdinozzecool: quickly sum up the points,17:01
jokerdinoglosoli: eh..17:02
glosolithey did wrong max min pixels in addon17:02
glosolithat's their problem17:02
zzecoolglosoli: take some time think17:02
zzecooland come back17:02
jokerdinoit is not an addon, but the new web technology17:02
zzecoollet him17:02
jokerdinoit adjusts the screen space based on the browser width or something like that17:02
glosolijokerdino: I don't even care if it's an addon website or whatever, It has It's own thing of setting pixels, OR DOESNT IT ?17:02
glosolias I said17:03
glosoliIt has it's own max min pixels for showing 4 columns17:03
bazhangglosoli, calm down  and watch the language17:03
jokerdinolet's just keep this discussion as civil as possible17:03
glosolibazhang: I just can't keep calm when people trying to talk about programming faults some developers make to argue against something that doesn't make sense17:03
zzecoolglosoli: yes glosoli and it is based on default resolutions   not some customs that we have in ubuntu using the launcher in neverhide17:04
bazhangglosoli, then exit the channel and come back when you are calm17:04
glosolizzecool: Check on your Os X, put dock to the left side of screen, you will get the same. Then Blame Apple too17:04
zzecoolglosoli: we are speaking about the default  out of the box experience17:04
glosolizzecool: Ok, as following your logic, it means it's canonical fault of not having Adobe Photoshop  :)17:05
zzecooli think oyu dont understand a word aout what im saying17:05
zzecoolyou*17:05
glosoliJust because programmers who make it ,are not going to. The same with that technologie you shown17:05
glosoliI think you don't understand how things work17:05
bazhanglets keep it civil please17:06
glosolibazhang: so answer me, is it Ubuntu fault that some website technologie adjust their min max expanding levels and column sets in the wrong way ?17:07
bazhangglosoli, I'll ask again to calm down.17:08
glosolibazhang: I am just asking you. Would you mind answering ?17:08
bazhangglosoli, not interested in finding fault. this channel is for testing and bug fixing.17:08
glosolibazhang: so what's the point of bringing over and over the same bug, to which Mark already answered as It will never be fixed :) ?17:09
zzecoolbecause it produced more problems to me glosoli17:09
jokerdinow?e are not getting anywhere, are we17:10
bazhangthats enough.17:10
topyliwhere's the vlc browser plugin? can't find any. is it thrown in the main vlc package now?17:10
* glosoli will not talk ever again here about that dodge thing which was overtalked million times :) 17:11
bazhang!find vlc17:11
* jokerdino hopes glosoli keeps his promise ;)17:11
ubottuFound: libvlc-dev, libvlc5, libvlccore-dev, libvlccore5, phonon-backend-vlc, phonon-backend-vlc-dbg, remuco-vlc, vlc, vlc-data, vlc-dbg (and 8 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=vlc&searchon=names&suite=precise&section=all17:11
bazhang!info mozilla-plugin-vlc17:16
ubottuPackage mozilla-plugin-vlc does not exist in precise17:16
bazhangwhat!17:16
topylithat's what i said :)17:16
bazhanghttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/i386/mozilla-plugin-vlc/1.1.11-2build217:19
bazhangsomething called "launchpadlibrarian has it.17:19
topylithe version number does not fill me with confidence. we're on vlc 2.017:22
trismit is the old version though, from the changelog for 2.0.0-1: "Remove dropped mozilla-plugin-vlc, The Mozilla browser plug-in is now provided by a separate source tarball."17:23
trismI haven't been able to locate said tarball though17:23
topyliwell, i removed totem and can confirm the plugin is not bundled with the main vlc package either. no plugin in my browser now17:25
micahgtopyli: it's been moved to a separate source now which needs to be sync'd17:27
topylithis language i do not understand17:27
jokerdinomicahg: oh?17:28
webm0nk3ydoes anyone know a workaround to a problem installing P from a USB and using the partition editor? mine always crashes17:28
* jokerdino looks for the upstream package17:28
micahgjokerdino: it's now in npapi-vlc17:29
jokerdinoi see.17:29
jokerdinoi think we should switch to #ubuntu-devel perhaps..17:29
micahgjokerdino: -motu ,but sure17:30
jokerdinowell, i am everywhere17:30
topylithey've hidden the mythical tarball well17:30
* jokerdino more zombie time tonight17:30
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topylinpapi-vlc has a nice launchpad page, but no tarball for topylies17:33
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trismtopyli: http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/vlc/2.0.0/ I think17:34
topylitrism: oh, thanks!17:34
topyliit's like installing java in 1999 :)17:34
topylioh, it's even better. we had binary packages for java at least17:36
trismbased on bug 955028 I imagine it will be in the repo soon17:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 955028 in Ubuntu "FFe: Sync npapi-vlc 2.0.0-1 (universe) from Debian sid (main)" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95502817:36
micahgyeah, it's in source NEW, it needs archive admin review17:37
* topyli aborts build17:38
sere hey all17:44
spacebug-still no fix for the shortcut keys in newer unity17:46
zzecoolspacebug-: ?17:47
zzecoolspacebug-: what problems ?17:48
spacebug-zzecool: I reported this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/95334917:51
bazhang!info gimp17:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 953349 in unity (Ubuntu) "keybindings for chaging desktop gets sent to the running application" [Undecided,New]17:51
ubottugimp (source: gimp): The GNU Image Manipulation Program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.12-1ubuntu1 (precise), package size 4611 kB, installed size 12814 kB (Only available for any all)17:51
zzecoollet me check17:51
spacebug-suddenly a change in unity made that. Was not like that before17:52
zzecoolspacebug-: ermm17:52
zzecoolspacebug-: everytime there is a compiz or unity update17:52
zzecooleven though you are not changing any shortcuts17:52
zzecoolthey go off for some reason17:53
zzecoolthe workaround is17:53
zzecoolto go into ccsm17:53
zzecooland disable and re enable the shortcuts17:53
zzecool:)17:53
zzecoolone by one17:53
zzecoolthose with the problem17:53
spacebug-zzecool: the problem is not to get them to work again, but they algo gets sent to the running application17:53
spacebug-they DO change desktop for me.. but also terminal gets the ctrl characters17:54
spacebug-that is wrong17:54
glosolispacebug-: what's the problem ?17:54
zzecoolyes because it is like you dont have those shortcuts17:54
zzecoolspacebug-: oh17:54
zzecoolthis is new then17:54
spacebug-so the bindings work but they should not be sent ro the application but only do what they are binded to17:55
zzecooli have opened a temrinal and pressing alt + left or right  ( this is my shortcuts )  changing workspaces without getting any input on the terminal17:55
zzecoolterminal*17:55
spacebug-zzecool: but setting the shortcuts as I describe in my bug?17:55
zzecooli cant reproduce it17:55
zzecoolwait17:56
glosolispacebug-: with a terminal window opened you get chars in the window of terminal when pressing some hotkeys ?17:56
spacebug-glosoli: look at my bug report17:56
glosolispacebug-: gime me link17:56
glosoligive'17:56
spacebug-https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/95334917:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 953349 in unity (Ubuntu) "keybindings for chaging desktop gets sent to the running application" [Undecided,New]17:56
zzecoolspacebug-: i cant reproduce it17:57
zzecooli tried17:57
spacebug-it was not like this before and this came after a change to unity a few days ago. And yes it is over all my test machines17:57
zzecool;/17:57
spacebug-zzecool: you use ctrl+F1 to F4 to change desktop?17:57
glosolispacebug-: you're on kde ?17:58
spacebug-glosoli: no17:58
glosolispacebug-: "InstallationMedia: Kubuntu 11.10 "Oneiric Ocelot" - Release amd64 (20111012)" ?17:58
zzecoolspacebug-: i assign them to move left or right17:59
spacebug-glosoli: yes upgraded to ubuntu 12.04 beta. Thus is still the same on my other machine with only the beta 1 install17:59
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zzecoolwhere i can assign them to change to a specific workspace ?17:59
spacebug-zzecool: then you did not do as the bug report ;)17:59
zzecoolyes17:59
spacebug-zzecool: system settings, keyboard, shortcut, navigaion17:59
zzecoolplease tell me where in ccsm you can assign this17:59
zzecoolok17:59
spacebug-not in ccsm17:59
zzecoollet me try17:59
spacebug-but you can do ut there also18:00
glosoliSystem settings, keybaord layout shortcuts18:00
glosoli:)18:00
glosolikeyboard''18:00
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spacebug-the pre set ctrl+alt+arrow keys does not get sent so they work18:01
glosolispacebug-: yes18:01
glosolican reproduce it18:01
spacebug-but I have always had and want ctrl+F# for my workspaces so I can change then with one hand18:01
spacebug-glosoli: ok good18:01
glosoli"glosoli@asus:~$ ;5R18:02
glosoli"18:02
zzecoolit doesnt work at all for me18:02
spacebug-glosoli: and that is new since an update to unity a few days ago18:02
glosolizzecool: you are doing wrong :)18:02
zzecooli cant do nothing wrong here18:02
glosolizzecool: you show scroll down a bit, otherwise you are setting bindings for moving window not the view18:02
spacebug-glosoli: also very ennoing when a plugin in firefox gets them (session control) so everytime I'm changeing away från firefox on desktop 2 to desktop 1 I get "save session" question up18:03
jeggyHey, i am using ubuntu 12.04 beta 64bit, and i have a problem with the wireless connection, how do i fill out a bug report ? i don't know what to put it under. "ubuntu-bug wireless-network" or something like that?18:03
spacebug-cant use unity like this so now I'm on gnome-fallback18:03
glosoli!ubuntu-bug18:03
glosolihmm what's the command for that ingo ?18:04
glosoliinfo''18:04
zzecoolspacebug-: ok i made it18:04
zzecoolim pressing affect me18:04
glosoli!bug18:04
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.18:04
glosolijeggy: here you go :)18:04
spacebug-;)18:04
glosolispacebug-: Ah, As I don't use Firefox anymore, can reproduce that one, mayne some day I will switch back, as FF is giving attention to web developers by adding many tools inside the ff18:05
spacebug-glosoli: ok18:06
jeggyi don't know the package name of it? and when i just write ubuntu-bug and choose "other problem" i get this "You need to specify a package or a PID. See --help for more information."18:06
glosolijeggy: hmm wait18:07
jeggyits just the wireless which isn't working18:07
glosolijeggy: what exactly is your problem ?18:07
glosolijeggy: are you on dell ?18:07
jeggywhen im looking for wireless connection i find mine and after i put in the security key it says i have internet connection but nothing works18:08
jeggyyes18:08
glosolijeggy: that's a common problem, have you tryed "Additional Drivers" app and seing if there is any offer for you ?18:08
jeggyyes the list is empty18:09
glosolijeggy: can you wait 5 minutes ? I will try to contact some of my friends, he had the same problem :)18:09
jeggyyeah :D thanks18:09
glosolijeggy: meanwhile, would you mind naming your laptop name ?18:10
glosoliwith model I mean18:10
jeggyDell XPS 15 l502x18:10
glosolijeggy: trying to contact another one :D18:12
jeggythank you very much :D18:12
jeggyis it just me or do Dell computers always have problems? i had a HP for 3 years and everything was fine and then i got this one everything got screwed didn't even work with ubuntu 10.10 but when 11.04 came it worked but the graphic driver is not working as it should18:14
glosolijeggy: hmm, might sound crazy, have you tryed turning on wireless by hotkey on the keyboard something like FN + F2  or any other you should see an incon on the keyboard button18:14
jeggyno its not that, i have tried turning it off and on again, but what actually happens is that i find our router and get connection but when i go onto the browser nothing works18:15
jeggybut when im using ethernet it works18:16
glosolijeggy: hmm, have you trying in terminal "ping google.com"18:16
glosoliwhile being on wireless18:16
jeggygonna try18:16
jeggybrb ;)18:16
jeggyback18:18
glosolijeggy: on wireless ?18:18
jeggynope18:18
jeggygot this "ping: unknown host google.com"18:18
jeggybut it said i had wireless connection18:18
glosolijeggy: there was some problem for me, even when I turn on wireless in my laptop, it must go to that networking icon in panel and press "Enable Wireless"18:19
jeggyglosoli: yes, but if its not enabled i wouldn't find our router :/18:20
jeggyi can try and look at my bios?18:20
glosolijeggy: nah18:20
glosolijeggy: if it finds router18:21
glosoliyou could try to look at your router18:21
glosolijeggy: for me it looks more like your router isn't giving the connection18:21
glosolijeggy: do you have any other wireless devices at home, which you can try ?18:21
jeggyyeah, wait a second18:21
glosolijeggy: In my router for example I am shown of ports forwarded for my wireless devices which are using it18:22
glosolishould be the same for yours18:22
jeggyglosoli: i tried a toshiba with windows on it, but the wireless was working fine on there18:25
zzecooljeggy: what is your router ip ?18:26
glosolijeggy: hmm, are you able to connect to router admin page while being on wireless to check if there is any port forwarded ?18:26
jeggynope, can't get in my router while being on wireless18:27
zzecooljeggy: open a terminal and type ifconfig wlan018:28
zzecoolwhat is your addr : ?18:28
zzecoolit is on the  2nd line18:28
jeggy inet addr:192.168.1.255  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.25518:28
jeggythat?18:28
zzecoolyes18:28
zzecooltry to ping 192.68.1.118:29
ironhalik.255?18:29
ironhalikstrange18:29
zzecoolhmm18:29
jeggyPING 192.68.1.1 (192.68.1.1) 56(84) bytes of data.18:29
jeggyFrom 80.77.128.154 icmp_seq=18 Destination Host Unreachable18:29
jeggywhile using ethernet18:30
zzecoolermm18:30
zzecoolwhy are you using ethernet?18:30
glosolihe can't access internet via wifi18:30
jeggyit says wifi works but it doesn't18:31
glosolijeggy: is there only computer in the house ?18:31
jeggythat has wifi, yes18:31
zzecooljeggy: how did you setup your wlan ? are you having a static ip  or it is in auto  - dhcp?18:32
glosolijeggy: Connect that laptop to wifi, login to the router administration via some other computer, and check if it forwards any ports for your laptop :)18:32
RobinJ1995why does my ubuntu 12.04 installation suddenly ask to do a distribution upgrade? (as in going from 12.04 to 12.04, not as in apt-get dist-upgrade)18:32
zzecoolglosoli:18:32
jeggyglosoli: where do i find that ?18:33
glosolijeggy: router administration panel ?18:33
zzecooljeggy:  please listen to me18:33
zzecoolfor some strange reason you are having the broadcasting ip address asigned on your pc18:33
zzecoolglosoli: please hold a minute18:33
zzecooljeggy: how did you setup up your wireless connection ?18:34
jeggyi don't know18:34
zzecoolok18:34
glosoliRobinJ1995: it's a version of packages, distribution packages :)18:34
zzecoolpress the wireless icon18:34
zzecoolgo to edit connections18:34
zzecoolits on the bottom18:34
zzecooldid you find it ?18:34
jeggyyes18:34
zzecoolgo to 2nd tab18:34
zzecoolwireless18:35
zzecoolfind in there you wireless name18:35
jeggyfound18:35
zzecoolselect it and press edit18:35
zzecoolmode should be infrastructure18:35
zzecoolis it ?18:36
jeggyyes18:36
zzecoolok18:36
zzecoolgo to the 2nd tab18:36
zzecoolipv418:36
jeggyyes18:36
zzecoolmethod should be automatic dhcp18:36
zzecoolis it ?18:36
jeggyno18:36
jeggywas on manual18:36
zzecoolok is there any reaosn to be on manual ?18:37
zzecoolwho did this ?18:37
glosoliinteresting hm18:37
jeggywait a min im gonna test it out now18:37
zzecooljeggy: wait18:37
zzecooldont test18:37
zzecooljust answer me18:37
zzecoolim trying to help18:37
zzecoolif you gonna put this on auto your router should  have a dhcp server running to give you an ip18:38
zzecoolmost router have dchp by defualt18:38
zzecoolbut18:38
zzecoolif for some reason you want to run any service on this pc that needs a port forward you either need upnp service on router or static ip on your pc18:39
zzecoolan port forward on the router side*18:39
zzecooli bet puting the method to auto should just work18:40
glosolijeggy_: working ?18:40
zzecoolprolly18:40
jeggy_I'm really sorry zzecool and glosoli18:40
jeggy_yes it works now :P18:40
zzecoolyou dont need to sry18:41
zzecoolread my previous comments18:41
glosolijeggy_: I am just interested you havent changed nothing in that connection properties by default ?18:41
jeggy_i disconnected to test it out, so i didn't get them18:41
jeggy_oh it was me who did it18:41
zzecooli send them to you18:42
zzecoolif you dont know what port forward is  or if you dont want to run a service like ftp  or web server18:42
zzecoolthen you are ok with this setup18:42
jeggy_i don't :P18:43
zzecooldo you download torrents ? :)18:43
jeggy_of course :P18:43
zzecoolthen you need ;p18:43
jeggy_and i use filezilla18:43
zzecooljeggy_: read this  :)18:44
zzecoolhttp://portforward.com/help/portforwarding.htm18:44
glosolizzecool: might be that his rauter allows portforwarding automatically from software18:45
glosoli:)18:45
jeggy_will do :D18:45
glosolirouter''18:45
jeggy_Thank you very much, i love these irc channels :D started to use them yesterday  :P18:45
jeggy_the ubuntu ones*18:46
zzecooljeggy_: yes but your questions belong to a more general channel like ubuntu18:46
jeggy_i was there but they sent me here18:46
zzecoolhere we are bug hunting for precise18:46
zzecool:)18:46
glosolithey are always sending people here.18:46
zzecoolbecause you said you are using precise18:46
zzecoolbut your question is not relevant18:47
zzecoolits was a general one18:47
jeggy_yea, sorry for that :P18:47
jeggy_maybe i will be back soon, i had a problem with dual monitors in ubuntu 11.10 but im gonna test that out in a bit in 12.0418:47
zzecoollol18:48
zzecoolthis is a weak point18:48
zzecool;p18:48
jeggy_http://askubuntu.com/questions/112260/dualscreen-not-working-when-using-a-dell-xps-15-via-an-hdmi-cable-to-a-tv tried everything yesterday and it ended with that i destroyed ubuntu, so now i use 12.0418:49
jeggy_but thanks again and bye18:51
danielcHi. I have a lot of files like ~/.goutputstream-2XYZAW or ~/.goutputstream-2XYZAW polluting my home folder. It started after I upgrated to 12.04. Anyone known which program may be creating (and not removing) this tmp files? I would like to fill a bug report about it.19:01
danielcOps, I messed up the example. :) The files have names in the format19:02
danielc  ~/.goutputstream-XXXXXX19:02
danielcI've posted this on Ubuntu foruns [http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11754335] but no one else replyed.19:07
spaceneedleBug: If you press the little house icon on the dash the dash gets darker and darker. I'm using 11.10.19:08
ironhalikhouse icon? :D19:10
tomreynhi, i just installed beta1, did a did-upgrade and then tried to install the "megaglest", running into depedency issues. apparently we're lacking a 3.6.0.3 megaglest-data package in ubuntu. it's available in debian, though. can this be fixed before release?19:11
ironhaliktomreyn: You can file a bug, theres a good chance it will be sorted out19:15
alkisgMy UI languge is el_GR.UTF-8 and my keyboard layout us,gr. lightdm keeps breaking them occasionally, and I either get an english UI or/and an english only keyboard layout.19:22
alkisgI also have autologin enabled, so I'm not doing anything to break them, it just happens randomly.19:22
alkisgI then delete my .dmrc, and /var/cache/lightdm/dmrc, and after a couple of tries I manage to fix them again (I don't want to use the language selector, I just want to have the system defaults)19:22
alkisgAnd after 10-20 automatic logins, they break again.19:22
alkisgAnyone else experienced that behavior?19:23
alkisgOr, any way to pinpoint the problem so that I file a good bug report about it?19:24
lukescharfIs anyone else seeing gnome-shell crashes on Precise today?19:28
alkisgAh, I also have 100% xorg cpu usage and metacity crashes randomly the last week (not sure if it's related at all to what lukescharf just said, just mentioning in case someone saw those too)19:30
lukescharfI didn't capture the error message the first few times through.  The last time I saw it, it was just a straight-up segmentation fault.19:33
lukescharfBefore that, the error messages and googling suggested a connection to libcogl19:34
lukescharfIt ran fine on the resident gnome-shell until I decided to patch-and-reboot around midday.19:35
trismlukescharf: we are in the middle of a transition to the new version of gnome-shell and its dependencies, right now it is waiting on mutter to build, try updated again a bit later19:42
lukescharfGreat!19:44
lukescharfThat's what I was hoping to hear -- I knew what I was getting in to when I decided to run a pre-release system.  :-)19:44
lukescharfBut I did want to make sure the problem had been reported, and I didn't have enough for a regular bug report.19:45
spaceneedleBug Update: You can ONLY change the color of the dash by pressing the icons on the dash if  the dash blur is shutoff via compiz on ubuntu 11.10.19:46
MylenthesEY!20:07
ironhalikIs there any way to bypass BIOS fan control from OS level?20:10
imarkanyone using cinnamon 1.4, i cant log in with it for the last day or 220:10
ironhalikcurrently I have i8kutils fighting over fan control with BIOS hardcoded settings20:10
ironhalikit causes the fan to cycle, depending on i8k refresh rate20:10
jesse_herro20:11
jesse_HEllo20:12
teratomawhat20:12
jesse_I cant get gnomeshell to work20:12
jesse_freezes20:12
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FernandoMiguelevening20:14
trismmaybe somebody should updated the /topic about the gnome-shell transition until it is finished20:18
trismupdate, I can't type in proper tense today20:19
ironhalikwhats with gnome-shell?20:22
zoraelDid netbios hostname resolution behavior change in precise? I've always gotten it to work with winbind and modifying /etc/nsswitch.conf, but this time it simply refuses to work. nslookup just asks my ISP DNS despite wins being entered before dns in said nsswitch.conf20:23
ses1984hey, i had a question not sure if this is the place to ask or #ubuntu+1, anyway i just installed precise server x64 in a VM and noticed that python-django* packages were not in the repos,20:24
ses1984i mean if this channel or #ubuntu-server would be the right place to ask20:24
trismses1984: have you apt-get update; yet? I see the python-django-* packages20:25
ses1984i did not do that yet...hah that's probably it20:25
ses1984yup that's it20:26
FernandoMiguelwhat's that white bar over HUD?20:35
logWhite bar?20:35
FernandoMiguelyeah20:37
logFernandoMiguel: I get a random white bar in the top left-hand corner of my screen sometimes that forces me to reboot, but it's not limited to HUD.20:38
FernandoMiguelhttp://i.imgur.com/m21U1.png20:40
FernandoMiguelyeah20:40
zzecoolFernandoMiguel: i think this is what left of a borged chrome21:01
zzecoolisnt it ?21:01
zzecool;p21:01
pdklis the best way to revert to a "default" install is to reinstall?21:02
FernandoMiguelpdkl: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ?21:02
zzecoolpdkl: you are speaking baout applications or UI settings ?21:02
zzecoolabout*21:02
pdklboth, i was mucking around with trying out different window managers21:03
pdkli just dont want that junk installed.21:03
pdkli used apt-get autoremote xxxxx21:03
pdklit seemed to remove things i needed :)21:03
zzecoolpdkl: go with reinstall for your sanity21:04
pdklok.21:04
ironhalikso, whats up with gnome-shell?21:20
Num83rGuyWhy does SAMBA hate me? It works perfect for a while then now it says user name and pass word are invalid . They are not wrong.21:55
MountainXa standard install of Kubuntu 12.04 beta 1 appears to be missing /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache21:55
MountainXcan anyone confirm this?21:55
Num83rGuyI now have t waste another DVD to transfer files. And yes, I know this is beta but, this happened on 11.04 and 11.10.21:56
aspdihanybody here?22:02
itaylor57no22:04
aspdih:P22:04
aspdihI have a problem - all the menus leave a trace instead of disappearing22:04
glosoliaspdih: have you updated your system  ?22:06
aspdihI keep updating it but wasn't getting anything new for a few days22:06
glosoliaspdih: even today ?22:06
glosoliaspdih: are you on precise ?22:06
aspdihI think today flash got updated22:07
aspdihyes I am22:07
glosoliaspdih: you should switch to main mirrror22:08
aspdihwow thanks22:10
aspdih600megs worth of downloading...22:11
aspdihso what's with the spanish mirror?22:11
glosoliaspdih: there is everything with all, except main22:11
glosolithey are not updated as fast22:11
glosolias main :)22:11
glosoliMain Mirror always get updates first22:11
aspdihbut not like a week late??22:11
glosoliaspdih: might be :/ you never know22:12
aspdihaint there a schedule? Damn, I'm getting old - even the main mirror is at 1mbps. Where is my dialup...22:12
aspdihanyway, thank you, hopefully it all got fixed22:13
glosoliaspdih: there is, but I am not sure who is responsible for updating other mirrors22:14
Jordan_UI tried to install Precise with a btrfs root and ubiquity crashed, any idea how to get Precise installed with a btrfs root? Is installing with a btrfs root supported?22:38
FernandoMiguelchrome://sessions22:44
FernandoMiguel:D22:44
glosolihm ? :D22:49
bicyclistAnyone any information if gnome 3 is currently broken in precise pangolin? I get no window decoration and no menu any more.23:03
logbicyclist: I tried it yesterday, and it worked fine, I think.23:06
* log shrugs.23:06
logIt seemed kind of stupid, though. ;P23:06
itaylor57bicyclist, well your ability to login in and out repeatly seems to be working fine :>)23:06
logNot as good as the screenshots seemed to make it out to be.23:07
bicyclistGrin true, i am currently on unity due to trying to recover my gnome 3 desktop not a single menu or window border visible23:07
bicyclistBut unity and gnome classic just work fine. So i have to stick with them for the time being or is there any way to reset gnome 3 completely to default?23:08
logNot sure, to be honest.23:08
logI'm just staying with Unity. :P23:08
logIt's gotten so much better since Oneiric.23:09
logAnd Natty, for that matter.23:09
soaringskyyeah, unity has gotten better with more time to bake23:14
mylenthesHello23:15
mylenthesI cant get gnome shell to work23:15
mylenthesit doesnt use compiz amiright?23:15
lukescharfWohoo!  The gnome-shell package that was released in the last hour or so solved my problem, and Gnome is working well for me!  Thank you!23:16
mylentheswhat was your problem?23:17
mylenthesand i didnt get an update ?23:17
mylenthesAre you using a repo?23:18
lukescharfI recently upgraded with Precise.  I patched-and-rebooted earlier today, but was not able to log in to Gnome.  When I ran gnome-shell from the command-line, I got a segfault (and, at times, a variety of other interesting error messages).23:19
scientesmy UID == 499, and instead of showing my username it shows "guest"23:20
scienteswhat a POS23:20
lukescharfI asked about it in this channel this afternoon, and one of the people on the channel mentioned that a number of the packages related to gnome-shell were being rebuilt, and that that the problem would likely be fixed in an update later today.23:20
glosolihmm there is possibility that Gnome will make it to have 3.4 in ubuntu :)23:20
scienteshow can i either: 1.hide a user from lightdm, or 2. show the username of a UID < 50023:20
lukescharfAnd the problem was fixed in an update later today.23:20
lukescharfI really do want to see Gnome 3.4.  I was hoping to track something newer than the Oneiric version when I decided to jump up to the early-prerelease of Precise.23:21
lukescharfAnyway, I'm just a chatty user -- but I wanted to make sure to leave a thank-you for the updated package.23:22
mylentheshmm i didnt get an updatr23:24
mylenthesmy gnome shell simply freezes upon login23:24
soaringskymylenthes: are you using a mirror instead of the main repo? some of the mirrors are out of sync or behind23:26
scientesWTF why are the fonts called "ubuntu"23:36
scientesthey are just dejavuy23:36
scientesbefore they were generticized to "sans" and "serif"23:36
scientesbut now you guys have to branzize fonts wtf23:37
Daekdroomscientes, Ubuntu font was created.23:37
DaekdroomIt's not a rebrand, or an edit to any existing font23:37
scientesreally woah23:38
scienteswhen redhat remade the ms fonts they called them liberty or something like that23:38
scientesand no serif23:38
scientesinteresting23:39
scienteswell how can i get my user name to show in the upper right when my UID < 500 ?23:45
scientesor alternatively, how do i get lightdm not not show a user23:45
scientes(other than UID < 500 )23:45
scientesthis is a multiseat system23:45

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