graingert | anybody know why gnome-online-accounts is unavailable? http://pastebin.com/XdrfyQSC | 00:18 |
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scientes | graingert, did you try apt-get update | 00:20 |
scientes | cause it works for me | 00:20 |
graingert | maybe they just got added | 00:21 |
scientes | well, i just did apt-get update && upgrade | 00:21 |
graingert | anything to do with * Update repository URL. | 00:21 |
scientes | but certainly a possibility, and it is expected to break that way momentarily while in beta | 00:21 |
graingert | E: Package 'libgoa-1.0-common' has no installation candidate | 00:22 |
graingert | is the root cause | 00:22 |
scientes | you sure you don't have debian sources in your sources.list? | 00:22 |
scientes | its probably that ubuntu dropped ubuntu-specific changes while coming up to date with debian | 00:23 |
scientes | and that changed some names or something | 00:23 |
graingert | http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libgoa-1.0-common&searchon=names&suite=precise§ion=all not out yet | 00:24 |
graingert | http://pastebin.com/6q4iy8Ly | 00:25 |
graingert | maybe gb is behined? | 00:26 |
graingert | http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/libgoa-1.0-0 note it says libgoa-1.0-common (= 3.3.0-1) [amd64] | 00:28 |
graingert | Package not available | 00:28 |
graingert | I guess libgoa was doa | 00:28 |
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ruffles | trism: hey. remember me? i was asking earlier today about a lightdm flickering but after logout. it stopped happening after I created a user | 01:02 |
trism | ruffles: yeah that seems to have been the problem, the user list didn't have any entries since the "other" option was removed, mterry commited a fix, I imagine it will be resolved soon | 01:06 |
trism | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-greeter/+bug/952557 | 01:06 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 952557 in unity-greeter (Ubuntu) "unity-greeter crashed with SIGSEGV in user_list_show_prompt() in live session" [High,Triaged] | 01:06 |
ruffles | great! thank you! | 01:08 |
ruffles | i believe bugs # 943193 and 935801 are both duplicates too | 01:08 |
ruffles | ok i've just marked 'em as duplicates of bug #952557 | 01:11 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 952557 in unity-greeter (Ubuntu) "unity-greeter crashed with SIGSEGV in user_list_show_prompt() in live session" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/952557 | 01:11 |
ruffles | trism: ok i'm going to do some serious beta testing in here now. lol | 01:14 |
ruffles | thanks for taking the time to help | 01:14 |
ruffles | cheers | 01:14 |
scientes | DNSMASQ IS TOTALLY broken by Network Manager | 02:52 |
scientes | how do i get rid of that network manager dnsmasq crap-ware | 02:52 |
scientes | and use a system dnsmasq | 02:52 |
scientes | especially cause its such crap that it install dnsmasq without installing the package | 02:53 |
scientes | oh wait, its dnsmasq-base | 02:54 |
scientes | how do i unbreak it | 02:57 |
trism | scientes: http://www.stgraber.org/2012/02/24/dns-in-ubuntu-12-04/ see "I really don’t want a local resolver, how can I turn it off?" | 03:08 |
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scientes | "This dnsmasq server isn’t a caching server for security reason" | 03:15 |
scientes | oh geeze | 03:15 |
scientes | then whats the point? | 03:15 |
diraol | Hi friends! I'm trying to "import" my wireless keys (password) from ubuntu 11.04 to ubuntu 12.04 | 03:15 |
scientes | diraol, upgrade? | 03:19 |
scientes | upgrade should work | 03:19 |
diraol | hum... not... fresh install | 03:20 |
scientes | ahh well if its just one go to networkmanager and copy in down | 03:20 |
lupin3rd | hey guys | 03:20 |
lupin3rd | i got a little problem | 03:21 |
diraol | sorry, i didn't understood what to do. | 03:21 |
diraol | I no longer have my 11.04, but still have my ~/ files and folders | 03:21 |
diraol | i'm trying to recover all my networks keys... | 03:21 |
lupin3rd | ok my little problem is that my fn key works for volume but not for the screen brightness but it worked fine in the live cd before i installed | 03:25 |
lupin3rd | any ideas??? | 03:26 |
scientes | lupin3rd, that shouldn't happen | 03:26 |
lupin3rd | yes i know | 03:26 |
lupin3rd | worked fine in live cd | 03:26 |
lupin3rd | now once installed nothing | 03:26 |
scientes | lupin3rd, ahhhhh actually, the live cd uses free drivers | 03:26 |
lupin3rd | yes | 03:26 |
scientes | maybe you installed the non-free drivers for your graphics | 03:26 |
scientes | and that broke it | 03:26 |
lupin3rd | i havn't installed anything | 03:27 |
lupin3rd | thats another problem i have | 03:27 |
scientes | it does it automatically if you click "install third-party software" | 03:27 |
scientes | in the installer | 03:27 |
lupin3rd | oh | 03:27 |
lupin3rd | i did that | 03:27 |
scientes | yeah | 03:27 |
lupin3rd | so how to stop that | 03:27 |
scientes | remove the non-free driver | 03:27 |
lupin3rd | how | 03:27 |
scientes | jockey-gtk | 03:28 |
scientes | or go to system settings | 03:28 |
scientes | you should turn off the non-free driver anyways | 03:28 |
scientes | nvidia or AMD/ATI ? | 03:28 |
lupin3rd | amd/ati | 03:28 |
scientes | yeah the AMD radeon free driver is pretty good these days, and getting better fast | 03:28 |
lupin3rd | ok | 03:28 |
scientes | it has better 2D performance than the non-free driver | 03:28 |
lupin3rd | ok so i am in system settings | 03:29 |
scientes | "hardware drivers" | 03:29 |
lupin3rd | doesn't have hardware drivers | 03:30 |
lupin3rd | you mean additonal drivers? | 03:30 |
scientes | yeah | 03:30 |
lupin3rd | yes now waht | 03:32 |
lupin3rd | also thanks for this | 03:32 |
diraol | now you have to unninstal the video driver lupin3rd | 03:32 |
diraol | and them, probably restart the OS. | 03:32 |
scientes | you click "remove" | 03:32 |
scientes | and then yeah restart | 03:33 |
scientes | (you can /etc/init.d/lightdm stop; rmmod fglrx, etc | 03:33 |
bjsnider | he hasn't even said fglrx is installed in the first place | 03:33 |
scientes | but easier to restart | 03:33 |
scientes | well he will see | 03:33 |
scientes | in "additional drivers" | 03:33 |
lupin3rd | but the atiamd proprirtadriver post release is not activated | 03:33 |
lupin3rd | both arn;t installed | 03:34 |
bjsnider | then you are certainly using radeon already | 03:34 |
scientes | hmm, well then that isn't the problem | 03:34 |
lupin3rd | when i install these drivers i have problems playing 720p movies so i don;t use them | 03:35 |
diraol | so, any idea on how i can recover my wireless network password from 11.04 to 12.04? | 03:35 |
scientes | diraol, you can save it if you go to networkmanager | 03:35 |
scientes | write it down | 03:35 |
diraol | but i no longer have the 11.04 OS | 03:35 |
scientes | diraol, well, what do you have? | 03:36 |
scientes | diraol, did you upgrade? | 03:36 |
diraol | all my 11.04 $home files and folders. | 03:37 |
diraol | no scientes, i've made a fresh install (but i have a full backup of /home partition). | 03:37 |
scientes | diraol, its not stored in /home (AFAIK) | 03:37 |
lupin3rd | any idea guys with my brightness control | 03:37 |
scientes | lupin3rd, all i can think of is the "evtest" | 03:38 |
scientes | but that is more of a development thing, its more involved | 03:38 |
lupin3rd | ahh k | 03:39 |
lupin3rd | but why would it work in the live cd and not once installed | 03:39 |
scientes | lupin3rd, as i said, that shouldn't happen | 03:39 |
diraol | =/ i thought it was on ~/.gconf/system/network (where are the wireless networks informations) | 03:39 |
diraol | but ok, i'll try to install the 11.04 again with the same /home i had before and see if it works. Thanks scientes! | 03:39 |
scientes | diraol, i highly doubt it, | 03:40 |
scientes | diraol, cant you just ask someone for the wireless password? | 03:40 |
scientes | diraol, it might be, if it was configured locally | 03:40 |
scientes | diraol, use grep "unique part of the SSID of the wireless" -R .gconf | 03:41 |
scientes | * ~/.gconf | 03:41 |
diraol | scientes, there are so many networks.... but ok. | 03:42 |
diraol | i think it would be configured locally, just for my user... that's why i think it would be on /home =) | 03:42 |
lupin3rd | also when i do install the amd/ati drivers i have problems watching 720p movies and the start up screen is in a lower res anyone heard of that | 03:42 |
diraol | i'll try something like a "recover". If it works i'll come back and tell . =) | 03:42 |
scientes | lupin3rd, is this an older computer? | 03:43 |
lupin3rd | its a laptop | 03:43 |
scientes | cause the non-free drivers do not support some old cards | 03:43 |
lupin3rd | quad core amd 1.8 | 03:43 |
lupin3rd | amd 5650 | 03:43 |
lupin3rd | 4 gig ram | 03:43 |
scientes | yeah thats pretty new | 03:43 |
lupin3rd | newish laptop | 03:43 |
lupin3rd | i know | 03:43 |
lupin3rd | i have tried alot of things with the gpu drivers | 03:44 |
lupin3rd | onice i install the amd ones the movies jerky | 03:44 |
lupin3rd | 720p | 03:44 |
scientes | the VAAPU stuff for movie acceleration is pretty new, could be buggy, IDK | 03:44 |
scientes | *VA-API | 03:44 |
lupin3rd | but with the standard drivers it works fine | 03:44 |
scientes | and well, non-free drivers are buggy by default... | 03:45 |
lupin3rd | you think it would be the other way round | 03:45 |
scientes | lupin3rd, the randeon driver doesn't use the hardware acceleration IIRC | 03:45 |
lupin3rd | but why the low res at startup with new drivers | 03:45 |
scientes | lupin3rd, not at all, FOSS is OPEN-SOURCE, meaning anyone that has a problem and some skill can fix their problem (or hire someone to do it) | 03:45 |
scientes | with non-free the only person that can possibly address a problem is the person that wrote it, and can see the source | 03:46 |
lupin3rd | ahh k | 03:46 |
lupin3rd | so i am stuck with the standard drivers | 03:46 |
lupin3rd | thas ok thoi | 03:46 |
lupin3rd | cause it runs better | 03:47 |
scientes | http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/cathedral-bazaar/ar01s04.html | 03:47 |
lupin3rd | that for me? | 03:47 |
scientes | "8. Given a large enough beta-tester and co-developer base, almost every problem will be characterized quickly and the fix obvious to someone." | 03:47 |
scientes | well, the difference between non-free and FOSS stuff is a big one | 03:47 |
lupin3rd | yeah | 03:47 |
lupin3rd | ok then | 03:47 |
scientes | basically with open-source stuff you have the ability to fix your problems, otherwise you are trapped | 03:48 |
lupin3rd | also | 03:48 |
lupin3rd | with this gay toshiba laptop | 03:48 |
scientes | thats why its called "free software" (as in freedom) | 03:48 |
scientes | meh, thats not a bad laptop | 03:48 |
scientes | but yeah, this thing about your keys sucks | 03:48 |
lupin3rd | to turn off wireless you need to hold the fn key down and press f8 but does not work in linux | 03:48 |
lupin3rd | how to turn off in terminal? | 03:49 |
lupin3rd | like the cmd | 03:49 |
scientes | lupin3rd, you should be able to turn off from the network manager | 03:49 |
scientes | just right click | 03:49 |
scientes | and uncheck "enable wireless" | 03:49 |
lupin3rd | yes i can do that but the light still stays on | 03:49 |
lupin3rd | in windows it turns off | 03:49 |
scientes | but it IS off | 03:49 |
scientes | even if the light is on | 03:49 |
lupin3rd | in windows i turn it off the light goes off | 03:49 |
lupin3rd | but | 03:50 |
lupin3rd | if i leave it off in windows and boot to linux | 03:50 |
lupin3rd | i can;t turn it on | 03:50 |
lupin3rd | get my point | 03:50 |
scientes | you can get more information in the /sys/devices | 03:50 |
scientes | eek, that is horrible | 03:50 |
lupin3rd | yeah | 03:50 |
scientes | paste.ubuntu.com <-- paste the output of lspci -n | 03:51 |
lupin3rd | http://paste.ubuntu.com/882755/ | 03:52 |
lupin3rd | i may have a way to fix my bightness | 03:52 |
scientes | ahh its the notorious broadcom wireless | 03:52 |
lupin3rd | yeah | 03:53 |
lupin3rd | haha | 03:53 |
lupin3rd | i know | 03:53 |
lupin3rd | but still why in windows when i turn it off the light goes off | 03:53 |
lupin3rd | then boot to linux can;t get it to work | 03:53 |
scientes | i doubt it would work, but you could try a cold boot | 03:54 |
scientes | i.e. take out the battery | 03:54 |
lupin3rd | but leave the light on and it disable it and enable it in linux | 03:54 |
lupin3rd | but my thoery is that | 03:54 |
lupin3rd | if the light is on then its still on useing batteryt | 03:54 |
scientes | well with broadcom all my bets are off | 03:54 |
lupin3rd | and thats why i get shit battery | 03:54 |
lupin3rd | =] | 03:54 |
diraol | broadcom b43? | 03:55 |
lupin3rd | dont know | 03:55 |
lupin3rd | all i know its a gay broadcom | 03:55 |
diraol | i have and HP with the bcm43 broadcom wireless board and it's a hell to get it working. | 03:56 |
scientes | BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller | 03:57 |
diraol | it has it's own will, some times work, some times doesn't. Mine is BCM4311 if i'm not mistaken... | 03:57 |
lupin3rd | its working just tryint to turn it off | 03:57 |
lupin3rd | also i get shit battery life with this laptop | 03:58 |
diraol | hum.... using network manager didn't work? | 03:58 |
lupin3rd | what do you guys get | 03:58 |
lupin3rd | in windows i even get shit time | 03:58 |
lupin3rd | fucking gay amd quad core | 03:58 |
lupin3rd | shit for battery | 03:58 |
scientes | well, thats not exactly a laptop made for battery life | 03:58 |
diraol | i don't use windows at all.... | 03:58 |
diraol | (i agree with scientes rs) | 03:59 |
lupin3rd | yeah | 03:59 |
scientes | the best battery life is with ARM | 03:59 |
diraol | too much power..... | 03:59 |
lupin3rd | for my laptop i am using linux my main desktop i use windows cause of games | 04:00 |
* scientes wishes some ARM licencers would just make some netbooks, of even desktops with PCIE etc | 04:00 | |
lupin3rd | =] | 04:00 |
* scientes would suck up a octo-core ARM with PCIE USB3, etc | 04:00 | |
scientes | aka full-featured | 04:00 |
diraol | i have a lenovo core i7 (dual core + hyperthreading) and i can get 5hr battery. | 04:00 |
scientes | wow | 04:00 |
diraol | it's a lenovo.... on the beggining it was 9/10hr | 04:01 |
scientes | oh wait, only dual core, but still | 04:01 |
scientes | thats cause 45nm | 04:01 |
lupin3rd | i get 2 hrs max | 04:01 |
lupin3rd | its shit | 04:01 |
diraol | yeah, i know how it is... my last laptop gave me less than 1hr | 04:02 |
lupin3rd | yeah when i got it i wasnt really looking at that | 04:02 |
lupin3rd | i just saw the price and the specs and went fuck it can even play games | 04:03 |
lupin3rd | but now i would have went for battery | 04:03 |
diraol | hehehe... i have a desktop for gamming.... no games on laptop at all | 04:03 |
lupin3rd | yeah my desktop is for games | 04:04 |
lupin3rd | but this thing can play bf3 | 04:04 |
lupin3rd | on low tho =] | 04:04 |
diraol | btw, my OS recognizes 4 cores.... | 04:05 |
lupin3rd | yeah but your cpu is only duel | 04:05 |
lupin3rd | so yeah about my brightness problem anyone? | 04:06 |
lupin3rd | why in live cd it works and not in full istalled | 04:07 |
diraol | <workarround>hum.... if you could find out the command to change the brightness, you could try to set the keybord bindings by hand</workarround> | 04:08 |
lupin3rd | yeah thats true but why would it work in the live cfd | 04:09 |
lupin3rd | and not now | 04:09 |
diraol | hum... i'm too newbie to know how to fix it from now on. sorry =/ | 04:11 |
lupin3rd | thats ok | 04:14 |
lupin3rd | i was just asking if anyone knew | 04:14 |
BlakJak | righto.. xubuntu problem.. 12.04b1... raft of dependency issues trying to install google earth... | 04:24 |
BlakJak | ia32-libs depending on ia32-libs-multiarch depending on a metric buttload of other stuff which is held back or somesuch | 04:24 |
micahg | BlakJak: not a bug, google earth will eventually learn how to depend on what they need | 04:31 |
micahg | BlakJak: oh, it won't install? how are you trying to install it | 04:31 |
BlakJak | pick a method :) | 04:32 |
BlakJak | dpkg -i | 04:32 |
BlakJak | or using the gui tool | 04:32 |
BlakJak | similar dependency for the skype .deb as well | 04:32 |
micahg | after the dpkg -i, you need to run apt-get -f install | 04:32 |
BlakJak | right... | 04:33 |
BlakJak | each time i do that, it wants to remove chromium-browser | 04:33 |
micahg | hmm, not sure why that would happen | 04:33 |
micahg | can you try apt-get with -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=true? | 04:34 |
BlakJak | sorry, please clarify exaclty what syntax i should run? | 04:36 |
BlakJak | is that with the -f install? | 04:36 |
snadge | i managed to install skype, but it was non trivial | 04:37 |
BlakJak | oh goodie | 04:37 |
BlakJak | heh | 04:37 |
micahg | BlakJak: sorry, apt-get -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=true -f install | 04:37 |
BlakJak | k.. there's quite a bit of info in the answer to that | 04:38 |
micahg | BlakJak: can you put it in a pastebin? | 04:38 |
BlakJak | this reminds me of rpm dependency hell | 04:39 |
BlakJak | heh | 04:39 |
BlakJak | http://pastebin.com/0Yz9C86d | 04:41 |
micahg | BlakJak: looks like mirror skew, libxfixes is a different version on i386 and amd64, either use a different mirror or wait for it to catch up | 04:44 |
micahg | *mirror arch skew | 04:44 |
ajmitch | probably using a mirror in NZ, too often they fall behind :) | 04:45 |
BlakJak | I expect i'll see the guys who run the NZ mirror soon... i'll let them know ;-) | 04:46 |
* BlakJak switches to 'main' server and runs apt-get update | 04:46 | |
ajmitch | BlakJak: which one? | 04:46 |
BlakJak | well, statistically, any of them probably | 04:47 |
ajmitch | nz2 used to point to mirror.ihug.co.nz but that fell too far behind :) | 04:47 |
BlakJak | not sure exactly which one 'server in new zealand' points to | 04:47 |
ajmitch | 'the NZ mirror' generally implies nz.archive.ubuntu.com, which is citylink | 04:47 |
BlakJak | markf@hawkeye:~/Downloads$ host nz.archive.ubuntu.com | 04:47 |
BlakJak | nz.archive.ubuntu.com is an alias for ubuntu.citylink.co.nz. | 04:47 |
BlakJak | ubuntu.citylink.co.nz has address 202.7.6.10 | 04:47 |
BlakJak | yeah. /me sends an ICQ msg to Citylink | 04:47 |
BlakJak | oh, best set up ICQ first. | 04:48 |
ajmitch | people still use that? :) | 04:48 |
BlakJak | haha | 04:49 |
BlakJak | my friend at Citylink is already ducking for cover | 04:49 |
BlakJak | wow.. output of apt-get -f install is hugely different | 04:49 |
ajmitch | http://mirror.ihug.co.nz/ubuntu/project/trace/ shows just how badly behind it got... | 04:50 |
ajmitch | citylink mirror looks only ~24h behind | 04:50 |
BlakJak | imma let that run... 85 megs of downloads | 04:50 |
ajmitch | (well, just going by the trace file) | 04:50 |
micahg | BlakJak: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors#yui_3_2_0_1_133170046332234 | 04:51 |
BlakJak | ajmitch: do I know you, or have we spoken before? | 04:51 |
ajmitch | BlakJak: probably way back | 04:51 |
micahg | doh, that id was page load specifc | 04:51 |
ajmitch | BlakJak: you were on #nzlug, right? | 04:52 |
BlakJak | it had an irc channel? I suppose so :p | 04:52 |
BlakJak | nzlinux maybe? | 04:52 |
ajmitch | yeah I think that was it :) | 04:52 |
ajmitch | it's been awhile | 04:52 |
BlakJak | yeah, your nick is familiar tho | 04:53 |
ajmitch | maybe just from ubuntu stuff | 04:54 |
BlakJak | arrrg the default sound prefs in pidgin are asinine | 04:54 |
BlakJak | another interesting point, btw... having installed side-by-side with my ubuntu 10.10 installation and ticking the box that said 'copy over my prefs and documents' during installation, nothing was copied over | 04:55 |
BlakJak | perhaps coz i changed my username... but nothing else from /home was copied between installs... not a biggie.. but somewhat misleading | 04:55 |
BlakJak | this has been a good lesson.. when running a beta it pays to get your updates from as close to the hub as you can | 04:56 |
ajmitch | yeah, archive.ubuntu.com is the best but probably slowest | 04:57 |
micahg | BlakJak: if your mirror is reliable, it's not that bad unless you upgrading every hour | 04:57 |
BlakJak | Citylink tell me that their mirror only updates daily | 04:57 |
* micahg uses mirror.anl.gov | 04:58 | |
BlakJak | the guy who is the main admin for it no longer works for Citylink, not sure what the story there is... | 04:58 |
ajmitch | they could have mirrored at just the wrong time for a package to be out of sync between i386 & amd64 | 04:58 |
ajmitch | problem is it takes a day to come right | 04:58 |
micahg | right, also, both those versions have been superseded | 04:59 |
ajmitch | 3 uploads of that package in a couple of days | 04:59 |
BlakJak | yay... skype works | 05:00 |
BlakJak | so does google earth | 05:01 |
BlakJak | tho the internal font is shyte | 05:01 |
BlakJak | ajmitch, micahg thank you very much for your assistance | 05:10 |
ajmitch | no problem | 05:10 |
BlakJak | i might lurk here for a bit :-) however it's hometime from work now. | 05:10 |
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Mylenthes | anyone there | 05:15 |
Mylenthes | Anyboody dere? | 05:23 |
crizzy | ain't this fun | 06:05 |
crizzy | segfault again after setting mouse as evdev device.. | 06:06 |
crizzy | not sure what to make out of it, but backtrace leads back to libc.. | 06:06 |
crizzy | like straight from X binary to libc.. fun fun | 06:07 |
almoxarife | I want my dnsmasq conf to work! like it did without a hitch till YOU decided you wanted to keep dnsmasq all for your own selves, bad people, bad! | 06:25 |
Vonor | hi | 07:40 |
Vonor | just installed 12.4 beta alternative in a vmbox and right after the kernel is loaded i get an error: mountall: no connection to Plymouth | 07:40 |
lotuspsychje | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/556542 | 07:41 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 553745 in plymouth (Ubuntu Maverick) "duplicate for #556542 plymouthd crashed with SIGSEGV in ply_event_loop_process_pending_events()" [High,Triaged] | 07:41 |
BlakJak | right... so now that i've come home and booted up I don't have any window frames... | 08:05 |
BlakJak | found a reference to clearing ~/.cache/sessions but that doesn't seem to be helping | 08:05 |
BlakJak | right.. had to install xfwm4 again... seems it'd gotten removed during my last update | 08:29 |
BlakJak | odd... | 08:29 |
Vonor | ok, i tried with the daily cd from today (12.4 alternative amd64). if i install a normal desktop system it works just fine. if i install a commandline system it won't boot up (seems the splash crashed without giving any output. all I see is a black screen with a blinking underscore cursor) | 08:46 |
Vonor | erm, never mind. seems the splash gets stopped after boot and there is no switch to tty1. if i switch tty's manually i get to the login prompt | 08:47 |
BlakJak | anyone able to recommend a vnc client for xubuntu? or is it a case of pick any one? | 08:57 |
psypher246 | hi all, does anyone know how to restart the panel so that the systray whitelists apps reappear. since a few updates ago all my whitelists systray apps dissapear and I have to restart to get them them back, for a little while, I would like a workaround so that I don't have to restart | 09:04 |
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topyli | gnome-shell in the gnome team ppa is broken, don't upgrade now | 09:54 |
Jeeves_ | Morning | 09:54 |
iceroot | wayland reached 12.04 | 10:24 |
ikonia | has it ? | 10:25 |
ikonia | it's it actually included ? | 10:25 |
iceroot | ikonia: yes | 10:25 |
ikonia | that's come out of the blue | 10:25 |
iceroot | ikonia: but the current gtk3 is not build with wayland enabled | 10:25 |
iceroot | ikonia: atm i only have a german link | 10:25 |
ikonia | is it being used as an extension or an alternative | 10:25 |
iceroot | http://www.golem.de/news/displayserver-wayland-und-weston-in-ubuntu-12-04-1203-90490.html | 10:25 |
ikonia | does that mean someone has tested it | 10:26 |
iceroot | ikonia: alternative which is not working atm because we have to rebuild gtk3 | 10:26 |
ikonia | as it "was" going to be included but never made it in | 10:26 |
ikonia | is this link saying they have actually confirmed it IS in | 10:26 |
iceroot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/954352 | 10:26 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 954352 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "Enable wayland backend" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 10:26 |
iceroot | ikonia: yes | 10:26 |
ikonia | interesting | 10:26 |
iceroot | ayland has one released version, 0.85, which is in the precise archives: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wayland/ | 10:26 |
ikonia | I'll have to take a look at that, I looked at wayland on it's own a while back and it was usless as it had nothing it could do | 10:27 |
ikonia | be interesting to see how it's being used | 10:27 |
iceroot | ikonia: at the moment you cant run wayland with gtk | 10:27 |
ikonia | not really surprised | 10:27 |
iceroot | ikonia: see bug report because gtk has to be compiled with wayland-enabled-foobar | 10:27 |
ikonia | when I looked at it, it was totally worthless for any sort of use | 10:28 |
iceroot | and because of the feature freeze its not clear if gtk will be rebuild | 10:28 |
ikonia | but then it is new and no-one's really embraced it | 10:28 |
iceroot | even 11.10 has wayland now | 10:29 |
almoxarife | found the get-around losing dnsmasq, install bind9 and force net-manager to dns from bogus | 10:29 |
iceroot | if i get that correct, kde4 can be used with wayland now, gnome/xfce/lxde not at the moment | 10:30 |
iceroot | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wayland/0.85.0-1ubuntu1 | 10:30 |
topyli | it doesn't look like gtk+ will have wayland support in precise. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA3MDM | 10:31 |
iceroot | topyli: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/954352 | 10:31 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 954352 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "Enable wayland backend" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 10:31 |
iceroot | but because of the feature freeze i dont think they will rebuild gtk3 for 12.04 | 10:32 |
iceroot | but i bet 12.10 will have wayland as alternate and 13.04 as default :) | 10:32 |
topyli | can't remember where i read this today, but the maintainers would be willing to add wayland support. the real problem is that gtk won't build on ARM then | 10:33 |
topyli | if they get that fixed, then it's another story | 10:33 |
iceroot | interesting | 10:33 |
slipttees | hi all | 11:42 |
slipttees | then | 11:42 |
slipttees | sis 771/671 resolution problem | 11:42 |
slipttees | http://pastebin.com/vu3fPsj9 | 11:43 |
slipttees | ndiswrapper won't work too | 11:44 |
slipttees | =/ | 11:44 |
slipttees | put my wfi module in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf | 11:45 |
slipttees | add ndiswrapper in /etc/modules | 11:45 |
slipttees | won't work | 11:45 |
slipttees | everyone? | 11:47 |
vega-_ | wtf, now alt key pops up the search bar | 12:14 |
vega-_ | or unity search/lens whatever | 12:14 |
Daekdroom | vega-_, that's HUD | 12:18 |
almoxarife | is it possible to change the key-short cut for krunner? | 12:30 |
almoxarife | btw, yes it is | 12:35 |
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uwe | hello, I want to test precise as a client for centralized authenticatin via ldap against 10.04 server; is there any discussions that i can be pointed | 14:18 |
uwe | to regarding this issue, since there are multiple packages regarding this issue ... | 14:19 |
Captain_Proton | anyone else have alot of kept back packages "empathy empathy-common gnome-online-accounts unity-common ectc" ? | 14:39 |
sbarcteam | hi. | 14:40 |
Captain_Proton | also my Banshee menu intergration is broke meaning it does not show in the message menu | 14:40 |
sbarcteam | I've installed a box by do-releas-upgrade -d -m server | 14:40 |
Captain_Proton | hi | 14:40 |
sbarcteam | the machine completed the upgrade, and then failed to use the default kernel 3.2.xx-18 | 14:41 |
Captain_Proton | i woul not have, but ok | 14:41 |
sbarcteam | I had to use the previous machine. | 14:41 |
sbarcteam | sorry, s/machine/kernel/ | 14:41 |
Captain_Proton | can you choose it in grub | 14:42 |
sbarcteam | "I had to use the previous kernel" means I am currently still on it. | 14:43 |
sbarcteam | so yes, I could choose either. | 14:43 |
Captain_Proton | also I would try to update-initramfs -u | 14:43 |
sbarcteam | hm... isn't it run over during the upgrade ? | 14:44 |
Captain_Proton | should but it could have failed or who knows | 14:44 |
sbarcteam | ok. | 14:47 |
Guest70485 | How do I get gnome back ? | 14:49 |
Guest70485 | I did 'apt-get install gnome' and am waiting for the install. Does this include everything ? | 14:50 |
jokerdino | Guest70485: which one are you trying to install? | 14:53 |
jokerdino | gnome-fallback i presume? | 14:53 |
jokerdino | !gnome-fallback | 14:53 |
sbarcteam | Captain_Proton: update-initramfs -u updates EXISTING initramfs. | 14:54 |
sbarcteam | I want to update specific, not current. | 14:54 |
Guest70485 | I don't know, Unity interface is totally incompatible with mice, and lxde has too many limitations. I can't find anyway to use ubuntu | 14:54 |
accipter | anyone else having problems with alt+tab working after the latest upgrade? the tab is now caught by the application. however, if i do alt+~ first then i can alt+tab through windows | 14:54 |
sbarcteam | hm... Captain_Proton the initramfs line was missing. after running update-grub the lines appeared. | 14:55 |
sbarcteam | rebooting now... hoping for the best. | 14:55 |
jokerdino | Guest70485: if you are trying to install the fallback the command is sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback | 14:56 |
Captain_Proton | accipter, there is a a check box to tell it to do all computer or per desktop but you need ccsm compiz-manager | 15:01 |
sbarcteam | Captain_Proton: it worked. | 15:01 |
sbarcteam | well, upgrade from lucid completed. | 15:01 |
sbarcteam | many tails are probably remained, will sort them out now. | 15:02 |
Captain_Proton | sbarcteam, sweet sorry I watch JOE's dad use ubuntu for the first time | 15:02 |
Captain_Proton | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ltE_ekc8kE8 | 15:02 |
qman__ | I'm having a problem with a 12.04 server, I installed a daily build a while ago and it's been working fine, but today I went to update it and it isn't working, none of the repositories hit | 15:03 |
qman__ | I notice it's looking for InRelease, and when I look at the repository, there is only Release | 15:03 |
qman__ | is there a way to fix that? | 15:03 |
uwe | is there a group of experts of matter or similar related to centralized authentication related issues. i think i saw this before but i'm unable to find it :S | 15:04 |
uwe | or group of individuals interested in this at least ... | 15:04 |
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qman__ | sources.list and errors I get: http://pastebin.com/Lwnm7c8f | 15:09 |
qman__ | nevermind, resolvconf broke dns, sorry for the false alarm | 15:11 |
david_ | I think Ubuntu 12.04 should be called 'Windows Vista beta 1' | 15:14 |
ironhalik | uh? | 15:15 |
david_ | I switched to linux in 2006, I am switching back to Windows. Ubuntu 12.04 is unusable ( unity interface is unusable unless I type name of programs, which means I have to jump between my mouse and keyboard ), the alternative interfaces are missing basic fonctionality. | 15:16 |
iceroot | david_: [] you know what beta means | 15:16 |
david_ | Yes | 15:16 |
david_ | It means all the crashes I had should be reported if not already, but has nothing to do with the usability of the software. | 15:16 |
david_ | I am complaining about the performance and UI and not the fact that is is a beta. | 15:17 |
iceroot | david_: of course, bug does not mean error, its also something like a feature request | 15:17 |
david_ | it is* | 15:17 |
ironhalik | feel free to use the alternatives, including windows | 15:17 |
david_ | this version 12.04 will be a regression of bug #1 | 15:17 |
iceroot | david_: stop flaming | 15:17 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 | 15:17 |
iceroot | david_: use kde, lxde, xfce4 or whatever you want | 15:17 |
iceroot | or report bugs what features you are missing | 15:19 |
uwe | david_, um, can you elaborate :) | 15:19 |
iceroot | but dont flame in this channel, it makes you ignored very fast | 15:19 |
iceroot | we are ALWAYS open for a usefull discussion, but this strange flaming is not needed here | 15:19 |
uwe | err, sorry, i did not see comments after your initial one ... | 15:20 |
ironhalik | he left | 15:20 |
Sidewinder1 | Not a significant loss, IMHO. | 15:22 |
jbwiv | is anyone aware of a way to move the unity launcher bar? I have three monitors and it insists on staying on the left hand monitor...changing ~/.config/monitors.xml doesn't seem to change anything. This is on Ubuntu 2D. | 15:37 |
mcamaret | jbwiv: there is a compiz addon to replace regular unity that moves the launcher to the bottom. | 15:37 |
mcamaret | http://www.webupd8.org/2011/11/install-ubuntu-unity-bottom-launcher.html | 15:38 |
jbwiv | mcamaret, does it work with 2d? | 15:38 |
jbwiv | I'm guessing not if it's a compiz plugin | 15:38 |
mcamaret | no | 15:40 |
jbwiv | mcamaret, thanks anyway :( | 15:40 |
mcamaret | jbwiv: I thought precise showed the launcher multiple times | 15:41 |
mcamaret | on seperate monitors | 15:41 |
jbwiv | mcamaret, that's not my experience so far on three monitors with xinerama | 15:44 |
jbwiv | and ubuntu 2d | 15:44 |
Q-FUNK | seems that the new gogl/clutter breaks the current gnome-shell. is there a new gnome-shell in incoming? | 15:49 |
Dreaman | ubuntu 12.04 is perfect | 15:50 |
Dreaman | :) | 15:50 |
trism | Q-FUNK: should be soon, was blocked on the clutter update: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/941755 | 15:55 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 941755 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "FFe: Update gnome-shell/mutter to 3.3.90" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 15:55 |
Q-FUNK | trism: oh, good | 15:55 |
crond | I've come to complain that I've nothing to complain about. 12.04 is running nice and stable-y. | 16:07 |
brendand | crond, you mean it's not the worst thing ever? another guy had me convinced it was :) | 16:09 |
crond | brendand, nah it's all humming along well for me, though, given that 11.10 has no video at *all* on my gpu, even in console, anything is an improvement ;) | 16:10 |
crond | the only crashes I've had are from stuff like the updater... the gui version. apt-get upgrade works just fine :P | 16:10 |
crond | catalyst 12.2 + ubuntu 12.04 = great. | 16:13 |
zzecool | ironhalik: ? ;p | 16:25 |
scar3crow | nice job dev's! | 16:33 |
scar3crow | will there be options in "appearance" dialogue to scale, resize, tile the wallpaper? | 16:40 |
zzecool | scar3crow: it is there | 16:41 |
scar3crow | really... not on my machine :( | 16:41 |
scar3crow | maybe re-install? | 16:42 |
topyli | ahh. gnome-shell broke with this morning's update, a fix already available. yay gnome team | 16:42 |
zzecool | scar3crow: i dont htink | 16:42 |
zzecool | think | 16:42 |
scar3crow | k | 16:42 |
zzecool | print screen your appearence dialog | 16:42 |
zzecool | and post the SS here | 16:42 |
zzecool | im curious | 16:42 |
scar3crow | where is file plz? | 16:42 |
zzecool | what file ? | 16:43 |
scar3crow | oh dug wait | 16:43 |
zzecool | ;p | 16:43 |
scar3crow | zzecool: http://edenprofessionalservices.dyndns.org/appearance.png | 16:45 |
zzecool | scar3crow: hmm strange | 16:45 |
scar3crow | yep | 16:46 |
zzecool | are you fully updated ? | 16:46 |
scar3crow | yep | 16:46 |
zzecool | maybe im not the one | 16:46 |
zzecool | i just check more updates landed | 16:46 |
zzecool | wait for me to update | 16:46 |
zzecool | and check if it broken | 16:47 |
scar3crow | and... is there an applet for the panel for alsa mixer? | 16:47 |
scar3crow | (I uninstalled pulse for gaming) | 16:47 |
zzecool | ah i dont rly know | 16:47 |
zzecool | whats the problems with gaming and pulse? | 16:47 |
scar3crow | no sound | 16:47 |
zzecool | duh | 16:47 |
scar3crow | or sound lag | 16:47 |
zzecool | what are you playing ? =) | 16:48 |
scar3crow | doom 3 quake 4 | 16:48 |
zzecool | =) | 16:48 |
scar3crow | ;) | 16:48 |
scar3crow | games run WAY better under ubuntu tan in winder$ | 16:49 |
zzecool | glosoli: :) | 16:49 |
glosoli | zzecool: hey :) how's going | 16:49 |
zzecool | i found a very frustating bug | 16:49 |
zzecool | based on the dodge removal | 16:49 |
* jokerdino thinks hard. | 16:50 | |
glosoli | zzecool: name it | 16:50 |
zzecool | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/930148 | 16:50 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 930148 in unity (Ubuntu) "Dodge windows is down but what about making the launcher autohide only on maximised apps ?" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 16:50 |
glosoli | I found very big bug in whole Unity Design team. | 16:50 |
zzecool | its in the 3 latest comments by me | 16:50 |
zzecool | :o | 16:51 |
zzecool | tell me | 16:51 |
glosoli | zzecool: wait I will show you video. | 16:51 |
zzecool | ok | 16:51 |
zzecool | check mine first :) | 16:52 |
zzecool | im login out brb | 16:52 |
zzecool | updates | 16:52 |
zzecool | back | 16:54 |
zzecool | scar3crow: i did the latest update but im ok | 16:54 |
zzecool | i think your install is borged | 16:55 |
scar3crow | odd | 16:55 |
scar3crow | yeah prolly | 16:55 |
zzecool | try to update using the main archive server | 16:55 |
zzecool | ones more | 16:55 |
scar3crow | will wait tho | 16:55 |
glosoli | zzecool: that's not a bug by Dodge :) | 16:55 |
zzecool | and restart | 16:55 |
scar3crow | ah, good call | 16:55 |
scar3crow | will do | 16:55 |
scar3crow | bbiab | 16:55 |
scar3crow | ty zz | 16:55 |
zzecool | glosoli: that is based on the absence of dodge | 16:55 |
zzecool | np | 16:56 |
glosoli | zzecool: it's just a website or addon writed stupidly | 16:56 |
glosoli | :) | 16:56 |
zzecool | the website is tranforming based on your resolution | 16:56 |
zzecool | its a new tech glosoli | 16:56 |
zzecool | you are getting old | 16:56 |
jokerdino | bootstrap | 16:56 |
jokerdino | ? | 16:56 |
glosoli | As I told you once, I will repeat, it's idiotic programmers problem not knowing how to make expandible gui :) | 16:57 |
zzecool | yes | 16:57 |
zzecool | :) | 16:57 |
zzecool | its a way to understand and chenge the ui based on resolution , if you are a phone a tablet a small screen or a hude tv | 16:57 |
glosoli | THe same problem will consist in mac os x if you make dock to be in the left side of screen | 16:57 |
glosoli | :) | 16:57 |
zzecool | huge* | 16:57 |
glosoli | there is no way you are getting dodge back :) | 16:58 |
jokerdino | highly unlikely yeah | 16:58 |
glosoli | And for even showing that video, Mark will not even care of any other of your opinions | 16:58 |
jokerdino | unity-2d still has dodge when i checked last time | 16:58 |
zzecool | for reasons noones knows... | 16:58 |
zzecool | jokerdino: yes | 16:58 |
glosoli | http://youtu.be/ltE_ekc8kE8 | 16:58 |
glosoli | here is the reason | 16:58 |
glosoli | That video shows typical users | 16:58 |
glosoli | which is majority of the world | 16:58 |
glosoli | programmers and power users are the minority | 16:58 |
glosoli | And you will see how hiding global menu items, and close max min when windos is closed affects usibility | 16:59 |
zzecool | glosoli: i watched the whole video this morning | 16:59 |
glosoli | UNity Design team sometimes don't have any sense of user | 16:59 |
zzecool | he isnt not confused at all by dodge | 16:59 |
zzecool | he i s confused with everything else than dodge.......... | 16:59 |
glosoli | zzecool: I didin't said about dodge | 16:59 |
zzecool | please take some time and watch it | 16:59 |
glosoli | I was talking about whole dsign concept | 16:59 |
glosoli | :) | 16:59 |
zzecool | ahh | 16:59 |
glosoli | People don't like important things to be hidden from them | 16:59 |
zzecool | the dodge was the first thing he discover | 17:00 |
zzecool | ...... | 17:00 |
glosoli | zzecool: well yes, but he said he likes always seing it | 17:00 |
glosoli | navigating quickly | 17:00 |
zzecool | thats true in terms of speed | 17:00 |
glosoli | If you watch whole his videos with Windows 8 and Mac OS X first time | 17:00 |
glosoli | you will understand | 17:00 |
zzecool | i did | 17:00 |
glosoli | Just for some geeks and power users | 17:00 |
glosoli | nobody cares | 17:00 |
glosoli | and that's the point | 17:00 |
jokerdino | i would say showing launcher at all times be made default and dodge an option. | 17:01 |
jokerdino | like how the LIM seems to shape up | 17:01 |
zzecool | jokerdino: true | 17:01 |
zzecool | but there will be problems | 17:01 |
zzecool | like the video ihave posted on the bug report | 17:01 |
glosoli | zzecool: VIDEO IS NOT DODGE PROBLEM. | 17:01 |
glosoli | Contact developers | 17:01 |
zzecool | ......... | 17:01 |
glosoli | of that piece of shit | 17:01 |
glosoli | addon you are using | 17:01 |
jokerdino | zzecool: quickly sum up the points, | 17:01 |
jokerdino | glosoli: eh.. | 17:02 |
glosoli | they did wrong max min pixels in addon | 17:02 |
glosoli | that's their problem | 17:02 |
zzecool | glosoli: take some time think | 17:02 |
zzecool | and come back | 17:02 |
jokerdino | it is not an addon, but the new web technology | 17:02 |
zzecool | let him | 17:02 |
jokerdino | it adjusts the screen space based on the browser width or something like that | 17:02 |
glosoli | jokerdino: I don't even care if it's an addon website or whatever, It has It's own thing of setting pixels, OR DOESNT IT ? | 17:02 |
glosoli | as I said | 17:03 |
glosoli | It has it's own max min pixels for showing 4 columns | 17:03 |
bazhang | glosoli, calm down and watch the language | 17:03 |
jokerdino | let's just keep this discussion as civil as possible | 17:03 |
glosoli | bazhang: I just can't keep calm when people trying to talk about programming faults some developers make to argue against something that doesn't make sense | 17:03 |
zzecool | glosoli: yes glosoli and it is based on default resolutions not some customs that we have in ubuntu using the launcher in neverhide | 17:04 |
bazhang | glosoli, then exit the channel and come back when you are calm | 17:04 |
glosoli | zzecool: Check on your Os X, put dock to the left side of screen, you will get the same. Then Blame Apple too | 17:04 |
zzecool | glosoli: we are speaking about the default out of the box experience | 17:04 |
glosoli | zzecool: Ok, as following your logic, it means it's canonical fault of not having Adobe Photoshop :) | 17:05 |
zzecool | i think oyu dont understand a word aout what im saying | 17:05 |
zzecool | you* | 17:05 |
glosoli | Just because programmers who make it ,are not going to. The same with that technologie you shown | 17:05 |
glosoli | I think you don't understand how things work | 17:05 |
bazhang | lets keep it civil please | 17:06 |
glosoli | bazhang: so answer me, is it Ubuntu fault that some website technologie adjust their min max expanding levels and column sets in the wrong way ? | 17:07 |
bazhang | glosoli, I'll ask again to calm down. | 17:08 |
glosoli | bazhang: I am just asking you. Would you mind answering ? | 17:08 |
bazhang | glosoli, not interested in finding fault. this channel is for testing and bug fixing. | 17:08 |
glosoli | bazhang: so what's the point of bringing over and over the same bug, to which Mark already answered as It will never be fixed :) ? | 17:09 |
zzecool | because it produced more problems to me glosoli | 17:09 |
jokerdino | w?e are not getting anywhere, are we | 17:10 |
bazhang | thats enough. | 17:10 |
topyli | where's the vlc browser plugin? can't find any. is it thrown in the main vlc package now? | 17:10 |
* glosoli will not talk ever again here about that dodge thing which was overtalked million times :) | 17:11 | |
bazhang | !find vlc | 17:11 |
* jokerdino hopes glosoli keeps his promise ;) | 17:11 | |
ubottu | Found: libvlc-dev, libvlc5, libvlccore-dev, libvlccore5, phonon-backend-vlc, phonon-backend-vlc-dbg, remuco-vlc, vlc, vlc-data, vlc-dbg (and 8 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=vlc&searchon=names&suite=precise§ion=all | 17:11 |
bazhang | !info mozilla-plugin-vlc | 17:16 |
ubottu | Package mozilla-plugin-vlc does not exist in precise | 17:16 |
bazhang | what! | 17:16 |
topyli | that's what i said :) | 17:16 |
bazhang | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/i386/mozilla-plugin-vlc/1.1.11-2build2 | 17:19 |
bazhang | something called "launchpadlibrarian has it. | 17:19 |
topyli | the version number does not fill me with confidence. we're on vlc 2.0 | 17:22 |
trism | it is the old version though, from the changelog for 2.0.0-1: "Remove dropped mozilla-plugin-vlc, The Mozilla browser plug-in is now provided by a separate source tarball." | 17:23 |
trism | I haven't been able to locate said tarball though | 17:23 |
topyli | well, i removed totem and can confirm the plugin is not bundled with the main vlc package either. no plugin in my browser now | 17:25 |
micahg | topyli: it's been moved to a separate source now which needs to be sync'd | 17:27 |
topyli | this language i do not understand | 17:27 |
jokerdino | micahg: oh? | 17:28 |
webm0nk3y | does anyone know a workaround to a problem installing P from a USB and using the partition editor? mine always crashes | 17:28 |
* jokerdino looks for the upstream package | 17:28 | |
micahg | jokerdino: it's now in npapi-vlc | 17:29 |
jokerdino | i see. | 17:29 |
jokerdino | i think we should switch to #ubuntu-devel perhaps.. | 17:29 |
micahg | jokerdino: -motu ,but sure | 17:30 |
jokerdino | well, i am everywhere | 17:30 |
topyli | they've hidden the mythical tarball well | 17:30 |
* jokerdino more zombie time tonight | 17:30 | |
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topyli | npapi-vlc has a nice launchpad page, but no tarball for topylies | 17:33 |
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trism | topyli: http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/vlc/2.0.0/ I think | 17:34 |
topyli | trism: oh, thanks! | 17:34 |
topyli | it's like installing java in 1999 :) | 17:34 |
topyli | oh, it's even better. we had binary packages for java at least | 17:36 |
trism | based on bug 955028 I imagine it will be in the repo soon | 17:36 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 955028 in Ubuntu "FFe: Sync npapi-vlc 2.0.0-1 (universe) from Debian sid (main)" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/955028 | 17:36 |
micahg | yeah, it's in source NEW, it needs archive admin review | 17:37 |
* topyli aborts build | 17:38 | |
sere | hey all | 17:44 |
spacebug- | still no fix for the shortcut keys in newer unity | 17:46 |
zzecool | spacebug-: ? | 17:47 |
zzecool | spacebug-: what problems ? | 17:48 |
spacebug- | zzecool: I reported this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/953349 | 17:51 |
bazhang | !info gimp | 17:51 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 953349 in unity (Ubuntu) "keybindings for chaging desktop gets sent to the running application" [Undecided,New] | 17:51 |
ubottu | gimp (source: gimp): The GNU Image Manipulation Program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.12-1ubuntu1 (precise), package size 4611 kB, installed size 12814 kB (Only available for any all) | 17:51 |
zzecool | let me check | 17:51 |
spacebug- | suddenly a change in unity made that. Was not like that before | 17:52 |
zzecool | spacebug-: ermm | 17:52 |
zzecool | spacebug-: everytime there is a compiz or unity update | 17:52 |
zzecool | even though you are not changing any shortcuts | 17:52 |
zzecool | they go off for some reason | 17:53 |
zzecool | the workaround is | 17:53 |
zzecool | to go into ccsm | 17:53 |
zzecool | and disable and re enable the shortcuts | 17:53 |
zzecool | :) | 17:53 |
zzecool | one by one | 17:53 |
zzecool | those with the problem | 17:53 |
spacebug- | zzecool: the problem is not to get them to work again, but they algo gets sent to the running application | 17:53 |
spacebug- | they DO change desktop for me.. but also terminal gets the ctrl characters | 17:54 |
spacebug- | that is wrong | 17:54 |
glosoli | spacebug-: what's the problem ? | 17:54 |
zzecool | yes because it is like you dont have those shortcuts | 17:54 |
zzecool | spacebug-: oh | 17:54 |
zzecool | this is new then | 17:54 |
spacebug- | so the bindings work but they should not be sent ro the application but only do what they are binded to | 17:55 |
zzecool | i have opened a temrinal and pressing alt + left or right ( this is my shortcuts ) changing workspaces without getting any input on the terminal | 17:55 |
zzecool | terminal* | 17:55 |
spacebug- | zzecool: but setting the shortcuts as I describe in my bug? | 17:55 |
zzecool | i cant reproduce it | 17:55 |
zzecool | wait | 17:56 |
glosoli | spacebug-: with a terminal window opened you get chars in the window of terminal when pressing some hotkeys ? | 17:56 |
spacebug- | glosoli: look at my bug report | 17:56 |
glosoli | spacebug-: gime me link | 17:56 |
glosoli | give' | 17:56 |
spacebug- | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/953349 | 17:56 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 953349 in unity (Ubuntu) "keybindings for chaging desktop gets sent to the running application" [Undecided,New] | 17:56 |
zzecool | spacebug-: i cant reproduce it | 17:57 |
zzecool | i tried | 17:57 |
spacebug- | it was not like this before and this came after a change to unity a few days ago. And yes it is over all my test machines | 17:57 |
zzecool | ;/ | 17:57 |
spacebug- | zzecool: you use ctrl+F1 to F4 to change desktop? | 17:57 |
glosoli | spacebug-: you're on kde ? | 17:58 |
spacebug- | glosoli: no | 17:58 |
glosoli | spacebug-: "InstallationMedia: Kubuntu 11.10 "Oneiric Ocelot" - Release amd64 (20111012)" ? | 17:58 |
zzecool | spacebug-: i assign them to move left or right | 17:59 |
spacebug- | glosoli: yes upgraded to ubuntu 12.04 beta. Thus is still the same on my other machine with only the beta 1 install | 17:59 |
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zzecool | where i can assign them to change to a specific workspace ? | 17:59 |
spacebug- | zzecool: then you did not do as the bug report ;) | 17:59 |
zzecool | yes | 17:59 |
spacebug- | zzecool: system settings, keyboard, shortcut, navigaion | 17:59 |
zzecool | please tell me where in ccsm you can assign this | 17:59 |
zzecool | ok | 17:59 |
spacebug- | not in ccsm | 17:59 |
zzecool | let me try | 17:59 |
spacebug- | but you can do ut there also | 18:00 |
glosoli | System settings, keybaord layout shortcuts | 18:00 |
glosoli | :) | 18:00 |
glosoli | keyboard'' | 18:00 |
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spacebug- | the pre set ctrl+alt+arrow keys does not get sent so they work | 18:01 |
glosoli | spacebug-: yes | 18:01 |
glosoli | can reproduce it | 18:01 |
spacebug- | but I have always had and want ctrl+F# for my workspaces so I can change then with one hand | 18:01 |
spacebug- | glosoli: ok good | 18:01 |
glosoli | "glosoli@asus:~$ ;5R | 18:02 |
glosoli | " | 18:02 |
zzecool | it doesnt work at all for me | 18:02 |
spacebug- | glosoli: and that is new since an update to unity a few days ago | 18:02 |
glosoli | zzecool: you are doing wrong :) | 18:02 |
zzecool | i cant do nothing wrong here | 18:02 |
glosoli | zzecool: you show scroll down a bit, otherwise you are setting bindings for moving window not the view | 18:02 |
spacebug- | glosoli: also very ennoing when a plugin in firefox gets them (session control) so everytime I'm changeing away från firefox on desktop 2 to desktop 1 I get "save session" question up | 18:03 |
jeggy | Hey, i am using ubuntu 12.04 beta 64bit, and i have a problem with the wireless connection, how do i fill out a bug report ? i don't know what to put it under. "ubuntu-bug wireless-network" or something like that? | 18:03 |
spacebug- | cant use unity like this so now I'm on gnome-fallback | 18:03 |
glosoli | !ubuntu-bug | 18:03 |
glosoli | hmm what's the command for that ingo ? | 18:04 |
glosoli | info'' | 18:04 |
zzecool | spacebug-: ok i made it | 18:04 |
zzecool | im pressing affect me | 18:04 |
glosoli | !bug | 18:04 |
ubottu | If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. | 18:04 |
glosoli | jeggy: here you go :) | 18:04 |
spacebug- | ;) | 18:04 |
glosoli | spacebug-: Ah, As I don't use Firefox anymore, can reproduce that one, mayne some day I will switch back, as FF is giving attention to web developers by adding many tools inside the ff | 18:05 |
spacebug- | glosoli: ok | 18:06 |
jeggy | i don't know the package name of it? and when i just write ubuntu-bug and choose "other problem" i get this "You need to specify a package or a PID. See --help for more information." | 18:06 |
glosoli | jeggy: hmm wait | 18:07 |
jeggy | its just the wireless which isn't working | 18:07 |
glosoli | jeggy: what exactly is your problem ? | 18:07 |
glosoli | jeggy: are you on dell ? | 18:07 |
jeggy | when im looking for wireless connection i find mine and after i put in the security key it says i have internet connection but nothing works | 18:08 |
jeggy | yes | 18:08 |
glosoli | jeggy: that's a common problem, have you tryed "Additional Drivers" app and seing if there is any offer for you ? | 18:08 |
jeggy | yes the list is empty | 18:09 |
glosoli | jeggy: can you wait 5 minutes ? I will try to contact some of my friends, he had the same problem :) | 18:09 |
jeggy | yeah :D thanks | 18:09 |
glosoli | jeggy: meanwhile, would you mind naming your laptop name ? | 18:10 |
glosoli | with model I mean | 18:10 |
jeggy | Dell XPS 15 l502x | 18:10 |
glosoli | jeggy: trying to contact another one :D | 18:12 |
jeggy | thank you very much :D | 18:12 |
jeggy | is it just me or do Dell computers always have problems? i had a HP for 3 years and everything was fine and then i got this one everything got screwed didn't even work with ubuntu 10.10 but when 11.04 came it worked but the graphic driver is not working as it should | 18:14 |
glosoli | jeggy: hmm, might sound crazy, have you tryed turning on wireless by hotkey on the keyboard something like FN + F2 or any other you should see an incon on the keyboard button | 18:14 |
jeggy | no its not that, i have tried turning it off and on again, but what actually happens is that i find our router and get connection but when i go onto the browser nothing works | 18:15 |
jeggy | but when im using ethernet it works | 18:16 |
glosoli | jeggy: hmm, have you trying in terminal "ping google.com" | 18:16 |
glosoli | while being on wireless | 18:16 |
jeggy | gonna try | 18:16 |
jeggy | brb ;) | 18:16 |
jeggy | back | 18:18 |
glosoli | jeggy: on wireless ? | 18:18 |
jeggy | nope | 18:18 |
jeggy | got this "ping: unknown host google.com" | 18:18 |
jeggy | but it said i had wireless connection | 18:18 |
glosoli | jeggy: there was some problem for me, even when I turn on wireless in my laptop, it must go to that networking icon in panel and press "Enable Wireless" | 18:19 |
jeggy | glosoli: yes, but if its not enabled i wouldn't find our router :/ | 18:20 |
jeggy | i can try and look at my bios? | 18:20 |
glosoli | jeggy: nah | 18:20 |
glosoli | jeggy: if it finds router | 18:21 |
glosoli | you could try to look at your router | 18:21 |
glosoli | jeggy: for me it looks more like your router isn't giving the connection | 18:21 |
glosoli | jeggy: do you have any other wireless devices at home, which you can try ? | 18:21 |
jeggy | yeah, wait a second | 18:21 |
glosoli | jeggy: In my router for example I am shown of ports forwarded for my wireless devices which are using it | 18:22 |
glosoli | should be the same for yours | 18:22 |
jeggy | glosoli: i tried a toshiba with windows on it, but the wireless was working fine on there | 18:25 |
zzecool | jeggy: what is your router ip ? | 18:26 |
glosoli | jeggy: hmm, are you able to connect to router admin page while being on wireless to check if there is any port forwarded ? | 18:26 |
jeggy | nope, can't get in my router while being on wireless | 18:27 |
zzecool | jeggy: open a terminal and type ifconfig wlan0 | 18:28 |
zzecool | what is your addr : ? | 18:28 |
zzecool | it is on the 2nd line | 18:28 |
jeggy | inet addr:192.168.1.255 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.255 | 18:28 |
jeggy | that? | 18:28 |
zzecool | yes | 18:28 |
zzecool | try to ping 192.68.1.1 | 18:29 |
ironhalik | .255? | 18:29 |
ironhalik | strange | 18:29 |
zzecool | hmm | 18:29 |
jeggy | PING 192.68.1.1 (192.68.1.1) 56(84) bytes of data. | 18:29 |
jeggy | From 80.77.128.154 icmp_seq=18 Destination Host Unreachable | 18:29 |
jeggy | while using ethernet | 18:30 |
zzecool | ermm | 18:30 |
zzecool | why are you using ethernet? | 18:30 |
glosoli | he can't access internet via wifi | 18:30 |
jeggy | it says wifi works but it doesn't | 18:31 |
glosoli | jeggy: is there only computer in the house ? | 18:31 |
jeggy | that has wifi, yes | 18:31 |
zzecool | jeggy: how did you setup your wlan ? are you having a static ip or it is in auto - dhcp? | 18:32 |
glosoli | jeggy: Connect that laptop to wifi, login to the router administration via some other computer, and check if it forwards any ports for your laptop :) | 18:32 |
RobinJ1995 | why does my ubuntu 12.04 installation suddenly ask to do a distribution upgrade? (as in going from 12.04 to 12.04, not as in apt-get dist-upgrade) | 18:32 |
zzecool | glosoli: | 18:32 |
jeggy | glosoli: where do i find that ? | 18:33 |
glosoli | jeggy: router administration panel ? | 18:33 |
zzecool | jeggy: please listen to me | 18:33 |
zzecool | for some strange reason you are having the broadcasting ip address asigned on your pc | 18:33 |
zzecool | glosoli: please hold a minute | 18:33 |
zzecool | jeggy: how did you setup up your wireless connection ? | 18:34 |
jeggy | i don't know | 18:34 |
zzecool | ok | 18:34 |
glosoli | RobinJ1995: it's a version of packages, distribution packages :) | 18:34 |
zzecool | press the wireless icon | 18:34 |
zzecool | go to edit connections | 18:34 |
zzecool | its on the bottom | 18:34 |
zzecool | did you find it ? | 18:34 |
jeggy | yes | 18:34 |
zzecool | go to 2nd tab | 18:34 |
zzecool | wireless | 18:35 |
zzecool | find in there you wireless name | 18:35 |
jeggy | found | 18:35 |
zzecool | select it and press edit | 18:35 |
zzecool | mode should be infrastructure | 18:35 |
zzecool | is it ? | 18:36 |
jeggy | yes | 18:36 |
zzecool | ok | 18:36 |
zzecool | go to the 2nd tab | 18:36 |
zzecool | ipv4 | 18:36 |
jeggy | yes | 18:36 |
zzecool | method should be automatic dhcp | 18:36 |
zzecool | is it ? | 18:36 |
jeggy | no | 18:36 |
jeggy | was on manual | 18:36 |
zzecool | ok is there any reaosn to be on manual ? | 18:37 |
zzecool | who did this ? | 18:37 |
glosoli | interesting hm | 18:37 |
jeggy | wait a min im gonna test it out now | 18:37 |
zzecool | jeggy: wait | 18:37 |
zzecool | dont test | 18:37 |
zzecool | just answer me | 18:37 |
zzecool | im trying to help | 18:37 |
zzecool | if you gonna put this on auto your router should have a dhcp server running to give you an ip | 18:38 |
zzecool | most router have dchp by defualt | 18:38 |
zzecool | but | 18:38 |
zzecool | if for some reason you want to run any service on this pc that needs a port forward you either need upnp service on router or static ip on your pc | 18:39 |
zzecool | an port forward on the router side* | 18:39 |
zzecool | i bet puting the method to auto should just work | 18:40 |
glosoli | jeggy_: working ? | 18:40 |
zzecool | prolly | 18:40 |
jeggy_ | I'm really sorry zzecool and glosoli | 18:40 |
jeggy_ | yes it works now :P | 18:40 |
zzecool | you dont need to sry | 18:41 |
zzecool | read my previous comments | 18:41 |
glosoli | jeggy_: I am just interested you havent changed nothing in that connection properties by default ? | 18:41 |
jeggy_ | i disconnected to test it out, so i didn't get them | 18:41 |
jeggy_ | oh it was me who did it | 18:41 |
zzecool | i send them to you | 18:42 |
zzecool | if you dont know what port forward is or if you dont want to run a service like ftp or web server | 18:42 |
zzecool | then you are ok with this setup | 18:42 |
jeggy_ | i don't :P | 18:43 |
zzecool | do you download torrents ? :) | 18:43 |
jeggy_ | of course :P | 18:43 |
zzecool | then you need ;p | 18:43 |
jeggy_ | and i use filezilla | 18:43 |
zzecool | jeggy_: read this :) | 18:44 |
zzecool | http://portforward.com/help/portforwarding.htm | 18:44 |
glosoli | zzecool: might be that his rauter allows portforwarding automatically from software | 18:45 |
glosoli | :) | 18:45 |
jeggy_ | will do :D | 18:45 |
glosoli | router'' | 18:45 |
jeggy_ | Thank you very much, i love these irc channels :D started to use them yesterday :P | 18:45 |
jeggy_ | the ubuntu ones* | 18:46 |
zzecool | jeggy_: yes but your questions belong to a more general channel like ubuntu | 18:46 |
jeggy_ | i was there but they sent me here | 18:46 |
zzecool | here we are bug hunting for precise | 18:46 |
zzecool | :) | 18:46 |
glosoli | they are always sending people here. | 18:46 |
zzecool | because you said you are using precise | 18:46 |
zzecool | but your question is not relevant | 18:47 |
zzecool | its was a general one | 18:47 |
jeggy_ | yea, sorry for that :P | 18:47 |
jeggy_ | maybe i will be back soon, i had a problem with dual monitors in ubuntu 11.10 but im gonna test that out in a bit in 12.04 | 18:47 |
zzecool | lol | 18:48 |
zzecool | this is a weak point | 18:48 |
zzecool | ;p | 18:48 |
jeggy_ | http://askubuntu.com/questions/112260/dualscreen-not-working-when-using-a-dell-xps-15-via-an-hdmi-cable-to-a-tv tried everything yesterday and it ended with that i destroyed ubuntu, so now i use 12.04 | 18:49 |
jeggy_ | but thanks again and bye | 18:51 |
danielc | Hi. I have a lot of files like ~/.goutputstream-2XYZAW or ~/.goutputstream-2XYZAW polluting my home folder. It started after I upgrated to 12.04. Anyone known which program may be creating (and not removing) this tmp files? I would like to fill a bug report about it. | 19:01 |
danielc | Ops, I messed up the example. :) The files have names in the format | 19:02 |
danielc | ~/.goutputstream-XXXXXX | 19:02 |
danielc | I've posted this on Ubuntu foruns [http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11754335] but no one else replyed. | 19:07 |
spaceneedle | Bug: If you press the little house icon on the dash the dash gets darker and darker. I'm using 11.10. | 19:08 |
ironhalik | house icon? :D | 19:10 |
tomreyn | hi, i just installed beta1, did a did-upgrade and then tried to install the "megaglest", running into depedency issues. apparently we're lacking a 3.6.0.3 megaglest-data package in ubuntu. it's available in debian, though. can this be fixed before release? | 19:11 |
ironhalik | tomreyn: You can file a bug, theres a good chance it will be sorted out | 19:15 |
alkisg | My UI languge is el_GR.UTF-8 and my keyboard layout us,gr. lightdm keeps breaking them occasionally, and I either get an english UI or/and an english only keyboard layout. | 19:22 |
alkisg | I also have autologin enabled, so I'm not doing anything to break them, it just happens randomly. | 19:22 |
alkisg | I then delete my .dmrc, and /var/cache/lightdm/dmrc, and after a couple of tries I manage to fix them again (I don't want to use the language selector, I just want to have the system defaults) | 19:22 |
alkisg | And after 10-20 automatic logins, they break again. | 19:22 |
alkisg | Anyone else experienced that behavior? | 19:23 |
alkisg | Or, any way to pinpoint the problem so that I file a good bug report about it? | 19:24 |
lukescharf | Is anyone else seeing gnome-shell crashes on Precise today? | 19:28 |
alkisg | Ah, I also have 100% xorg cpu usage and metacity crashes randomly the last week (not sure if it's related at all to what lukescharf just said, just mentioning in case someone saw those too) | 19:30 |
lukescharf | I didn't capture the error message the first few times through. The last time I saw it, it was just a straight-up segmentation fault. | 19:33 |
lukescharf | Before that, the error messages and googling suggested a connection to libcogl | 19:34 |
lukescharf | It ran fine on the resident gnome-shell until I decided to patch-and-reboot around midday. | 19:35 |
trism | lukescharf: we are in the middle of a transition to the new version of gnome-shell and its dependencies, right now it is waiting on mutter to build, try updated again a bit later | 19:42 |
lukescharf | Great! | 19:44 |
lukescharf | That's what I was hoping to hear -- I knew what I was getting in to when I decided to run a pre-release system. :-) | 19:44 |
lukescharf | But I did want to make sure the problem had been reported, and I didn't have enough for a regular bug report. | 19:45 |
spaceneedle | Bug Update: You can ONLY change the color of the dash by pressing the icons on the dash if the dash blur is shutoff via compiz on ubuntu 11.10. | 19:46 |
Mylenthes | EY! | 20:07 |
ironhalik | Is there any way to bypass BIOS fan control from OS level? | 20:10 |
imark | anyone using cinnamon 1.4, i cant log in with it for the last day or 2 | 20:10 |
ironhalik | currently I have i8kutils fighting over fan control with BIOS hardcoded settings | 20:10 |
ironhalik | it causes the fan to cycle, depending on i8k refresh rate | 20:10 |
jesse_ | herro | 20:11 |
jesse_ | HEllo | 20:12 |
teratoma | what | 20:12 |
jesse_ | I cant get gnomeshell to work | 20:12 |
jesse_ | freezes | 20:12 |
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FernandoMiguel | evening | 20:14 |
trism | maybe somebody should updated the /topic about the gnome-shell transition until it is finished | 20:18 |
trism | update, I can't type in proper tense today | 20:19 |
ironhalik | whats with gnome-shell? | 20:22 |
zorael | Did netbios hostname resolution behavior change in precise? I've always gotten it to work with winbind and modifying /etc/nsswitch.conf, but this time it simply refuses to work. nslookup just asks my ISP DNS despite wins being entered before dns in said nsswitch.conf | 20:23 |
ses1984 | hey, i had a question not sure if this is the place to ask or #ubuntu+1, anyway i just installed precise server x64 in a VM and noticed that python-django* packages were not in the repos, | 20:24 |
ses1984 | i mean if this channel or #ubuntu-server would be the right place to ask | 20:24 |
trism | ses1984: have you apt-get update; yet? I see the python-django-* packages | 20:25 |
ses1984 | i did not do that yet...hah that's probably it | 20:25 |
ses1984 | yup that's it | 20:26 |
FernandoMiguel | what's that white bar over HUD? | 20:35 |
log | White bar? | 20:35 |
FernandoMiguel | yeah | 20:37 |
log | FernandoMiguel: I get a random white bar in the top left-hand corner of my screen sometimes that forces me to reboot, but it's not limited to HUD. | 20:38 |
FernandoMiguel | http://i.imgur.com/m21U1.png | 20:40 |
FernandoMiguel | yeah | 20:40 |
zzecool | FernandoMiguel: i think this is what left of a borged chrome | 21:01 |
zzecool | isnt it ? | 21:01 |
zzecool | ;p | 21:01 |
pdkl | is the best way to revert to a "default" install is to reinstall? | 21:02 |
FernandoMiguel | pdkl: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ? | 21:02 |
zzecool | pdkl: you are speaking baout applications or UI settings ? | 21:02 |
zzecool | about* | 21:02 |
pdkl | both, i was mucking around with trying out different window managers | 21:03 |
pdkl | i just dont want that junk installed. | 21:03 |
pdkl | i used apt-get autoremote xxxxx | 21:03 |
pdkl | it seemed to remove things i needed :) | 21:03 |
zzecool | pdkl: go with reinstall for your sanity | 21:04 |
pdkl | ok. | 21:04 |
ironhalik | so, whats up with gnome-shell? | 21:20 |
Num83rGuy | Why does SAMBA hate me? It works perfect for a while then now it says user name and pass word are invalid . They are not wrong. | 21:55 |
MountainX | a standard install of Kubuntu 12.04 beta 1 appears to be missing /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache | 21:55 |
MountainX | can anyone confirm this? | 21:55 |
Num83rGuy | I now have t waste another DVD to transfer files. And yes, I know this is beta but, this happened on 11.04 and 11.10. | 21:56 |
aspdih | anybody here? | 22:02 |
itaylor57 | no | 22:04 |
aspdih | :P | 22:04 |
aspdih | I have a problem - all the menus leave a trace instead of disappearing | 22:04 |
glosoli | aspdih: have you updated your system ? | 22:06 |
aspdih | I keep updating it but wasn't getting anything new for a few days | 22:06 |
glosoli | aspdih: even today ? | 22:06 |
glosoli | aspdih: are you on precise ? | 22:06 |
aspdih | I think today flash got updated | 22:07 |
aspdih | yes I am | 22:07 |
glosoli | aspdih: you should switch to main mirrror | 22:08 |
aspdih | wow thanks | 22:10 |
aspdih | 600megs worth of downloading... | 22:11 |
aspdih | so what's with the spanish mirror? | 22:11 |
glosoli | aspdih: there is everything with all, except main | 22:11 |
glosoli | they are not updated as fast | 22:11 |
glosoli | as main :) | 22:11 |
glosoli | Main Mirror always get updates first | 22:11 |
aspdih | but not like a week late?? | 22:11 |
glosoli | aspdih: might be :/ you never know | 22:12 |
aspdih | aint there a schedule? Damn, I'm getting old - even the main mirror is at 1mbps. Where is my dialup... | 22:12 |
aspdih | anyway, thank you, hopefully it all got fixed | 22:13 |
glosoli | aspdih: there is, but I am not sure who is responsible for updating other mirrors | 22:14 |
Jordan_U | I tried to install Precise with a btrfs root and ubiquity crashed, any idea how to get Precise installed with a btrfs root? Is installing with a btrfs root supported? | 22:38 |
FernandoMiguel | chrome://sessions | 22:44 |
FernandoMiguel | :D | 22:44 |
glosoli | hm ? :D | 22:49 |
bicyclist | Anyone any information if gnome 3 is currently broken in precise pangolin? I get no window decoration and no menu any more. | 23:03 |
log | bicyclist: I tried it yesterday, and it worked fine, I think. | 23:06 |
* log shrugs. | 23:06 | |
log | It seemed kind of stupid, though. ;P | 23:06 |
itaylor57 | bicyclist, well your ability to login in and out repeatly seems to be working fine :>) | 23:06 |
log | Not as good as the screenshots seemed to make it out to be. | 23:07 |
bicyclist | Grin true, i am currently on unity due to trying to recover my gnome 3 desktop not a single menu or window border visible | 23:07 |
bicyclist | But unity and gnome classic just work fine. So i have to stick with them for the time being or is there any way to reset gnome 3 completely to default? | 23:08 |
log | Not sure, to be honest. | 23:08 |
log | I'm just staying with Unity. :P | 23:08 |
log | It's gotten so much better since Oneiric. | 23:09 |
log | And Natty, for that matter. | 23:09 |
soaringsky | yeah, unity has gotten better with more time to bake | 23:14 |
mylenthes | Hello | 23:15 |
mylenthes | I cant get gnome shell to work | 23:15 |
mylenthes | it doesnt use compiz amiright? | 23:15 |
lukescharf | Wohoo! The gnome-shell package that was released in the last hour or so solved my problem, and Gnome is working well for me! Thank you! | 23:16 |
mylenthes | what was your problem? | 23:17 |
mylenthes | and i didnt get an update ? | 23:17 |
mylenthes | Are you using a repo? | 23:18 |
lukescharf | I recently upgraded with Precise. I patched-and-rebooted earlier today, but was not able to log in to Gnome. When I ran gnome-shell from the command-line, I got a segfault (and, at times, a variety of other interesting error messages). | 23:19 |
scientes | my UID == 499, and instead of showing my username it shows "guest" | 23:20 |
scientes | what a POS | 23:20 |
lukescharf | I asked about it in this channel this afternoon, and one of the people on the channel mentioned that a number of the packages related to gnome-shell were being rebuilt, and that that the problem would likely be fixed in an update later today. | 23:20 |
glosoli | hmm there is possibility that Gnome will make it to have 3.4 in ubuntu :) | 23:20 |
scientes | how can i either: 1.hide a user from lightdm, or 2. show the username of a UID < 500 | 23:20 |
lukescharf | And the problem was fixed in an update later today. | 23:20 |
lukescharf | I really do want to see Gnome 3.4. I was hoping to track something newer than the Oneiric version when I decided to jump up to the early-prerelease of Precise. | 23:21 |
lukescharf | Anyway, I'm just a chatty user -- but I wanted to make sure to leave a thank-you for the updated package. | 23:22 |
mylenthes | hmm i didnt get an updatr | 23:24 |
mylenthes | my gnome shell simply freezes upon login | 23:24 |
soaringsky | mylenthes: are you using a mirror instead of the main repo? some of the mirrors are out of sync or behind | 23:26 |
scientes | WTF why are the fonts called "ubuntu" | 23:36 |
scientes | they are just dejavuy | 23:36 |
scientes | before they were generticized to "sans" and "serif" | 23:36 |
scientes | but now you guys have to branzize fonts wtf | 23:37 |
Daekdroom | scientes, Ubuntu font was created. | 23:37 |
Daekdroom | It's not a rebrand, or an edit to any existing font | 23:37 |
scientes | really woah | 23:38 |
scientes | when redhat remade the ms fonts they called them liberty or something like that | 23:38 |
scientes | and no serif | 23:38 |
scientes | interesting | 23:39 |
scientes | well how can i get my user name to show in the upper right when my UID < 500 ? | 23:45 |
scientes | or alternatively, how do i get lightdm not not show a user | 23:45 |
scientes | (other than UID < 500 ) | 23:45 |
scientes | this is a multiseat system | 23:45 |
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