[00:18] anybody know why gnome-online-accounts is unavailable? http://pastebin.com/XdrfyQSC [00:20] graingert, did you try apt-get update [00:20] cause it works for me [00:21] maybe they just got added [00:21] well, i just did apt-get update && upgrade [00:21] anything to do with * Update repository URL. [00:21] but certainly a possibility, and it is expected to break that way momentarily while in beta [00:22] E: Package 'libgoa-1.0-common' has no installation candidate [00:22] is the root cause [00:22] you sure you don't have debian sources in your sources.list? [00:23] its probably that ubuntu dropped ubuntu-specific changes while coming up to date with debian [00:23] and that changed some names or something [00:24] http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libgoa-1.0-common&searchon=names&suite=precise§ion=all not out yet [00:25] http://pastebin.com/6q4iy8Ly [00:26] maybe gb is behined? [00:28] http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/libgoa-1.0-0 note it says libgoa-1.0-common (= 3.3.0-1) [amd64] [00:28] Package not available [00:28] I guess libgoa was doa === hggdh_ is now known as hggdh [01:02] trism: hey. remember me? i was asking earlier today about a lightdm flickering but after logout. it stopped happening after I created a user [01:06] ruffles: yeah that seems to have been the problem, the user list didn't have any entries since the "other" option was removed, mterry commited a fix, I imagine it will be resolved soon [01:06] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-greeter/+bug/952557 [01:06] Launchpad bug 952557 in unity-greeter (Ubuntu) "unity-greeter crashed with SIGSEGV in user_list_show_prompt() in live session" [High,Triaged] [01:08] great! thank you! [01:08] i believe bugs # 943193 and 935801 are both duplicates too [01:11] ok i've just marked 'em as duplicates of bug #952557 [01:11] Launchpad bug 952557 in unity-greeter (Ubuntu) "unity-greeter crashed with SIGSEGV in user_list_show_prompt() in live session" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/952557 [01:14] trism: ok i'm going to do some serious beta testing in here now. lol [01:14] thanks for taking the time to help [01:14] cheers [02:52] DNSMASQ IS TOTALLY broken by Network Manager [02:52] how do i get rid of that network manager dnsmasq crap-ware [02:52] and use a system dnsmasq [02:53] especially cause its such crap that it install dnsmasq without installing the package [02:54] oh wait, its dnsmasq-base [02:57] how do i unbreak it [03:08] scientes: http://www.stgraber.org/2012/02/24/dns-in-ubuntu-12-04/ see "I really don’t want a local resolver, how can I turn it off?" === Guest98574 is now known as Aranel [03:15] "This dnsmasq server isn’t a caching server for security reason" [03:15] oh geeze [03:15] then whats the point? [03:15] Hi friends! I'm trying to "import" my wireless keys (password) from ubuntu 11.04 to ubuntu 12.04 [03:19] diraol, upgrade? [03:19] upgrade should work [03:20] hum... not... fresh install [03:20] ahh well if its just one go to networkmanager and copy in down [03:20] hey guys [03:21] i got a little problem [03:21] sorry, i didn't understood what to do. [03:21] I no longer have my 11.04, but still have my ~/ files and folders [03:21] i'm trying to recover all my networks keys... [03:25] ok my little problem is that my fn key works for volume but not for the screen brightness but it worked fine in the live cd before i installed [03:26] any ideas??? [03:26] lupin3rd, that shouldn't happen [03:26] yes i know [03:26] worked fine in live cd [03:26] now once installed nothing [03:26] lupin3rd, ahhhhh actually, the live cd uses free drivers [03:26] yes [03:26] maybe you installed the non-free drivers for your graphics [03:26] and that broke it [03:27] i havn't installed anything [03:27] thats another problem i have [03:27] it does it automatically if you click "install third-party software" [03:27] in the installer [03:27] oh [03:27] i did that [03:27] yeah [03:27] so how to stop that [03:27] remove the non-free driver [03:27] how [03:28] jockey-gtk [03:28] or go to system settings [03:28] you should turn off the non-free driver anyways [03:28] nvidia or AMD/ATI ? [03:28] amd/ati [03:28] yeah the AMD radeon free driver is pretty good these days, and getting better fast [03:28] ok [03:28] it has better 2D performance than the non-free driver [03:29] ok so i am in system settings [03:29] "hardware drivers" [03:30] doesn't have hardware drivers [03:30] you mean additonal drivers? [03:30] yeah [03:32] yes now waht [03:32] also thanks for this [03:32] now you have to unninstal the video driver lupin3rd [03:32] and them, probably restart the OS. [03:32] you click "remove" [03:33] and then yeah restart [03:33] (you can /etc/init.d/lightdm stop; rmmod fglrx, etc [03:33] he hasn't even said fglrx is installed in the first place [03:33] but easier to restart [03:33] well he will see [03:33] in "additional drivers" [03:33] but the atiamd proprirtadriver post release is not activated [03:34] both arn;t installed [03:34] then you are certainly using radeon already [03:34] hmm, well then that isn't the problem [03:35] when i install these drivers i have problems playing 720p movies so i don;t use them [03:35] so, any idea on how i can recover my wireless network password from 11.04 to 12.04? [03:35] diraol, you can save it if you go to networkmanager [03:35] write it down [03:35] but i no longer have the 11.04 OS [03:36] diraol, well, what do you have? [03:36] diraol, did you upgrade? [03:37] all my 11.04 $home files and folders. [03:37] no scientes, i've made a fresh install (but i have a full backup of /home partition). [03:37] diraol, its not stored in /home (AFAIK) [03:37] any idea guys with my brightness control [03:38] lupin3rd, all i can think of is the "evtest" [03:38] but that is more of a development thing, its more involved [03:39] ahh k [03:39] but why would it work in the live cd and not once installed [03:39] lupin3rd, as i said, that shouldn't happen [03:39] =/ i thought it was on ~/.gconf/system/network (where are the wireless networks informations) [03:39] but ok, i'll try to install the 11.04 again with the same /home i had before and see if it works. Thanks scientes! [03:40] diraol, i highly doubt it, [03:40] diraol, cant you just ask someone for the wireless password? [03:40] diraol, it might be, if it was configured locally [03:41] diraol, use grep "unique part of the SSID of the wireless" -R .gconf [03:41] * ~/.gconf [03:42] scientes, there are so many networks.... but ok. [03:42] i think it would be configured locally, just for my user... that's why i think it would be on /home =) [03:42] also when i do install the amd/ati drivers i have problems watching 720p movies and the start up screen is in a lower res anyone heard of that [03:42] i'll try something like a "recover". If it works i'll come back and tell . =) [03:43] lupin3rd, is this an older computer? [03:43] its a laptop [03:43] cause the non-free drivers do not support some old cards [03:43] quad core amd 1.8 [03:43] amd 5650 [03:43] 4 gig ram [03:43] yeah thats pretty new [03:43] newish laptop [03:43] i know [03:44] i have tried alot of things with the gpu drivers [03:44] onice i install the amd ones the movies jerky [03:44] 720p [03:44] the VAAPU stuff for movie acceleration is pretty new, could be buggy, IDK [03:44] *VA-API [03:44] but with the standard drivers it works fine [03:45] and well, non-free drivers are buggy by default... [03:45] you think it would be the other way round [03:45] lupin3rd, the randeon driver doesn't use the hardware acceleration IIRC [03:45] but why the low res at startup with new drivers [03:45] lupin3rd, not at all, FOSS is OPEN-SOURCE, meaning anyone that has a problem and some skill can fix their problem (or hire someone to do it) [03:46] with non-free the only person that can possibly address a problem is the person that wrote it, and can see the source [03:46] ahh k [03:46] so i am stuck with the standard drivers [03:46] thas ok thoi [03:47] cause it runs better [03:47] http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/cathedral-bazaar/ar01s04.html [03:47] that for me? [03:47] "8. Given a large enough beta-tester and co-developer base, almost every problem will be characterized quickly and the fix obvious to someone." [03:47] well, the difference between non-free and FOSS stuff is a big one [03:47] yeah [03:47] ok then [03:48] basically with open-source stuff you have the ability to fix your problems, otherwise you are trapped [03:48] also [03:48] with this gay toshiba laptop [03:48] thats why its called "free software" (as in freedom) [03:48] meh, thats not a bad laptop [03:48] but yeah, this thing about your keys sucks [03:48] to turn off wireless you need to hold the fn key down and press f8 but does not work in linux [03:49] how to turn off in terminal? [03:49] like the cmd [03:49] lupin3rd, you should be able to turn off from the network manager [03:49] just right click [03:49] and uncheck "enable wireless" [03:49] yes i can do that but the light still stays on [03:49] in windows it turns off [03:49] but it IS off [03:49] even if the light is on [03:49] in windows i turn it off the light goes off [03:50] but [03:50] if i leave it off in windows and boot to linux [03:50] i can;t turn it on [03:50] get my point [03:50] you can get more information in the /sys/devices [03:50] eek, that is horrible [03:50] yeah [03:51] paste.ubuntu.com <-- paste the output of lspci -n [03:52] http://paste.ubuntu.com/882755/ [03:52] i may have a way to fix my bightness [03:52] ahh its the notorious broadcom wireless [03:53] yeah [03:53] haha [03:53] i know [03:53] but still why in windows when i turn it off the light goes off [03:53] then boot to linux can;t get it to work [03:54] i doubt it would work, but you could try a cold boot [03:54] i.e. take out the battery [03:54] but leave the light on and it disable it and enable it in linux [03:54] but my thoery is that [03:54] if the light is on then its still on useing batteryt [03:54] well with broadcom all my bets are off [03:54] and thats why i get shit battery [03:54] =] [03:55] broadcom b43? [03:55] dont know [03:55] all i know its a gay broadcom [03:56] i have and HP with the bcm43 broadcom wireless board and it's a hell to get it working. [03:57] BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller [03:57] it has it's own will, some times work, some times doesn't. Mine is BCM4311 if i'm not mistaken... [03:57] its working just tryint to turn it off [03:58] also i get shit battery life with this laptop [03:58] hum.... using network manager didn't work? [03:58] what do you guys get [03:58] in windows i even get shit time [03:58] fucking gay amd quad core [03:58] shit for battery [03:58] well, thats not exactly a laptop made for battery life [03:58] i don't use windows at all.... [03:59] (i agree with scientes rs) [03:59] yeah [03:59] the best battery life is with ARM [03:59] too much power..... [04:00] for my laptop i am using linux my main desktop i use windows cause of games [04:00] * scientes wishes some ARM licencers would just make some netbooks, of even desktops with PCIE etc [04:00] =] [04:00] * scientes would suck up a octo-core ARM with PCIE USB3, etc [04:00] aka full-featured [04:00] i have a lenovo core i7 (dual core + hyperthreading) and i can get 5hr battery. [04:00] wow [04:01] it's a lenovo.... on the beggining it was 9/10hr [04:01] oh wait, only dual core, but still [04:01] thats cause 45nm [04:01] i get 2 hrs max [04:01] its shit [04:02] yeah, i know how it is... my last laptop gave me less than 1hr [04:02] yeah when i got it i wasnt really looking at that [04:03] i just saw the price and the specs and went fuck it can even play games [04:03] but now i would have went for battery [04:03] hehehe... i have a desktop for gamming.... no games on laptop at all [04:04] yeah my desktop is for games [04:04] but this thing can play bf3 [04:04] on low tho =] [04:05] btw, my OS recognizes 4 cores.... [04:05] yeah but your cpu is only duel [04:06] so yeah about my brightness problem anyone? [04:07] why in live cd it works and not in full istalled [04:08] hum.... if you could find out the command to change the brightness, you could try to set the keybord bindings by hand [04:09] yeah thats true but why would it work in the live cfd [04:09] and not now [04:11] hum... i'm too newbie to know how to fix it from now on. sorry =/ [04:14] thats ok [04:14] i was just asking if anyone knew [04:24] righto.. xubuntu problem.. 12.04b1... raft of dependency issues trying to install google earth... [04:24] ia32-libs depending on ia32-libs-multiarch depending on a metric buttload of other stuff which is held back or somesuch [04:31] BlakJak: not a bug, google earth will eventually learn how to depend on what they need [04:31] BlakJak: oh, it won't install? how are you trying to install it [04:32] pick a method :) [04:32] dpkg -i [04:32] or using the gui tool [04:32] similar dependency for the skype .deb as well [04:32] after the dpkg -i, you need to run apt-get -f install [04:33] right... [04:33] each time i do that, it wants to remove chromium-browser [04:33] hmm, not sure why that would happen [04:34] can you try apt-get with -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=true? [04:36] sorry, please clarify exaclty what syntax i should run? [04:36] is that with the -f install? [04:37] i managed to install skype, but it was non trivial [04:37] oh goodie [04:37] heh [04:37] BlakJak: sorry, apt-get -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=true -f install [04:38] k.. there's quite a bit of info in the answer to that [04:38] BlakJak: can you put it in a pastebin? [04:39] this reminds me of rpm dependency hell [04:39] heh [04:41] http://pastebin.com/0Yz9C86d [04:44] BlakJak: looks like mirror skew, libxfixes is a different version on i386 and amd64, either use a different mirror or wait for it to catch up [04:44] *mirror arch skew [04:45] probably using a mirror in NZ, too often they fall behind :) [04:46] I expect i'll see the guys who run the NZ mirror soon... i'll let them know ;-) [04:46] * BlakJak switches to 'main' server and runs apt-get update [04:46] BlakJak: which one? [04:47] well, statistically, any of them probably [04:47] nz2 used to point to mirror.ihug.co.nz but that fell too far behind :) [04:47] not sure exactly which one 'server in new zealand' points to [04:47] 'the NZ mirror' generally implies nz.archive.ubuntu.com, which is citylink [04:47] markf@hawkeye:~/Downloads$ host nz.archive.ubuntu.com [04:47] nz.archive.ubuntu.com is an alias for ubuntu.citylink.co.nz. [04:47] ubuntu.citylink.co.nz has address 202.7.6.10 [04:47] yeah. /me sends an ICQ msg to Citylink [04:48] oh, best set up ICQ first. [04:48] people still use that? :) [04:49] haha [04:49] my friend at Citylink is already ducking for cover [04:49] wow.. output of apt-get -f install is hugely different [04:50] http://mirror.ihug.co.nz/ubuntu/project/trace/ shows just how badly behind it got... [04:50] citylink mirror looks only ~24h behind [04:50] imma let that run... 85 megs of downloads [04:50] (well, just going by the trace file) [04:51] BlakJak: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors#yui_3_2_0_1_133170046332234 [04:51] ajmitch: do I know you, or have we spoken before? [04:51] BlakJak: probably way back [04:51] doh, that id was page load specifc [04:52] BlakJak: you were on #nzlug, right? [04:52] it had an irc channel? I suppose so :p [04:52] nzlinux maybe? [04:52] yeah I think that was it :) [04:52] it's been awhile [04:53] yeah, your nick is familiar tho [04:54] maybe just from ubuntu stuff [04:54] arrrg the default sound prefs in pidgin are asinine [04:55] another interesting point, btw... having installed side-by-side with my ubuntu 10.10 installation and ticking the box that said 'copy over my prefs and documents' during installation, nothing was copied over [04:55] perhaps coz i changed my username... but nothing else from /home was copied between installs... not a biggie.. but somewhat misleading [04:56] this has been a good lesson.. when running a beta it pays to get your updates from as close to the hub as you can [04:57] yeah, archive.ubuntu.com is the best but probably slowest [04:57] BlakJak: if your mirror is reliable, it's not that bad unless you upgrading every hour [04:57] Citylink tell me that their mirror only updates daily [04:58] * micahg uses mirror.anl.gov [04:58] the guy who is the main admin for it no longer works for Citylink, not sure what the story there is... [04:58] they could have mirrored at just the wrong time for a package to be out of sync between i386 & amd64 [04:58] problem is it takes a day to come right [04:59] right, also, both those versions have been superseded [04:59] 3 uploads of that package in a couple of days [05:00] yay... skype works [05:01] so does google earth [05:01] tho the internal font is shyte [05:10] ajmitch, micahg thank you very much for your assistance [05:10] no problem [05:10] i might lurk here for a bit :-) however it's hometime from work now. [05:11] * BlakJak gone [05:15] anyone there [05:23] Anyboody dere? [06:05] ain't this fun [06:06] segfault again after setting mouse as evdev device.. [06:06] not sure what to make out of it, but backtrace leads back to libc.. [06:07] like straight from X binary to libc.. fun fun [06:25] I want my dnsmasq conf to work! like it did without a hitch till YOU decided you wanted to keep dnsmasq all for your own selves, bad people, bad! [07:40] hi [07:40] just installed 12.4 beta alternative in a vmbox and right after the kernel is loaded i get an error: mountall: no connection to Plymouth [07:41] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/556542 [07:41] Launchpad bug 553745 in plymouth (Ubuntu Maverick) "duplicate for #556542 plymouthd crashed with SIGSEGV in ply_event_loop_process_pending_events()" [High,Triaged] [08:05] right... so now that i've come home and booted up I don't have any window frames... [08:05] found a reference to clearing ~/.cache/sessions but that doesn't seem to be helping [08:29] right.. had to install xfwm4 again... seems it'd gotten removed during my last update [08:29] odd... [08:46] ok, i tried with the daily cd from today (12.4 alternative amd64). if i install a normal desktop system it works just fine. if i install a commandline system it won't boot up (seems the splash crashed without giving any output. all I see is a black screen with a blinking underscore cursor) [08:47] erm, never mind. seems the splash gets stopped after boot and there is no switch to tty1. if i switch tty's manually i get to the login prompt [08:57] anyone able to recommend a vnc client for xubuntu? or is it a case of pick any one? [09:04] hi all, does anyone know how to restart the panel so that the systray whitelists apps reappear. since a few updates ago all my whitelists systray apps dissapear and I have to restart to get them them back, for a little while, I would like a workaround so that I don't have to restart === [1]mikester01 is now known as mikester01 [09:54] gnome-shell in the gnome team ppa is broken, don't upgrade now [09:54] Morning [10:24] wayland reached 12.04 [10:25] has it ? [10:25] it's it actually included ? [10:25] ikonia: yes [10:25] that's come out of the blue [10:25] ikonia: but the current gtk3 is not build with wayland enabled [10:25] ikonia: atm i only have a german link [10:25] is it being used as an extension or an alternative [10:25] http://www.golem.de/news/displayserver-wayland-und-weston-in-ubuntu-12-04-1203-90490.html [10:26] does that mean someone has tested it [10:26] ikonia: alternative which is not working atm because we have to rebuild gtk3 [10:26] as it "was" going to be included but never made it in [10:26] is this link saying they have actually confirmed it IS in [10:26] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/954352 [10:26] Launchpad bug 954352 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "Enable wayland backend" [Undecided,Confirmed] [10:26] ikonia: yes [10:26] interesting [10:26] ayland has one released version, 0.85, which is in the precise archives: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wayland/ [10:27] I'll have to take a look at that, I looked at wayland on it's own a while back and it was usless as it had nothing it could do [10:27] be interesting to see how it's being used [10:27] ikonia: at the moment you cant run wayland with gtk [10:27] not really surprised [10:27] ikonia: see bug report because gtk has to be compiled with wayland-enabled-foobar [10:28] when I looked at it, it was totally worthless for any sort of use [10:28] and because of the feature freeze its not clear if gtk will be rebuild [10:28] but then it is new and no-one's really embraced it [10:29] even 11.10 has wayland now [10:29] found the get-around losing dnsmasq, install bind9 and force net-manager to dns from bogus [10:30] if i get that correct, kde4 can be used with wayland now, gnome/xfce/lxde not at the moment [10:30] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wayland/0.85.0-1ubuntu1 [10:31] it doesn't look like gtk+ will have wayland support in precise. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA3MDM [10:31] topyli: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/954352 [10:31] Launchpad bug 954352 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "Enable wayland backend" [Undecided,Confirmed] [10:32] but because of the feature freeze i dont think they will rebuild gtk3 for 12.04 [10:32] but i bet 12.10 will have wayland as alternate and 13.04 as default :) [10:33] can't remember where i read this today, but the maintainers would be willing to add wayland support. the real problem is that gtk won't build on ARM then [10:33] if they get that fixed, then it's another story [10:33] interesting [11:42] hi all [11:42] then [11:42] sis 771/671 resolution problem [11:43] http://pastebin.com/vu3fPsj9 [11:44] ndiswrapper won't work too [11:44] =/ [11:45] put my wfi module in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf [11:45] add ndiswrapper in /etc/modules [11:45] won't work [11:47] everyone? [12:14] wtf, now alt key pops up the search bar [12:14] or unity search/lens whatever [12:18] vega-_, that's HUD [12:30] is it possible to change the key-short cut for krunner? [12:35] btw, yes it is === jbicha is now known as Guest97816 === Guest97816 is now known as jbicha_ [14:18] hello, I want to test precise as a client for centralized authenticatin via ldap against 10.04 server; is there any discussions that i can be pointed [14:19] to regarding this issue, since there are multiple packages regarding this issue ... [14:39] anyone else have alot of kept back packages "empathy empathy-common gnome-online-accounts unity-common ectc" ? [14:40] hi. [14:40] also my Banshee menu intergration is broke meaning it does not show in the message menu [14:40] I've installed a box by do-releas-upgrade -d -m server [14:40] hi [14:41] the machine completed the upgrade, and then failed to use the default kernel 3.2.xx-18 [14:41]