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wendarmhall119: Mark Tully's music scopes have been updated to use Unity 5 (the version in precise) in his bzr branches, do you know if he wants to submit them for Oneiric or Precise?00:51
ajmitchprecise00:51
ajmitchI don't see unity 5 being backported to oneiric00:52
ajmitchsince the API's not compatible, there'd be no point submitting the packages for oneiric, I think00:52
wendaragreed, I just wasn't sure if he wanted to get an older version of his scopes into Oneiric, or go full steam ahead with the latest code for precise00:55
wendarIf Oneiric, then it'd be the first thing I work on next00:55
wendarIf Precise, then we need the precise pocket open before we can launch it00:55
wendarif it's all the same for him, I'd suggest going ahead with precise00:55
wendarsince Oneiric isn't an LTS, most people are going to upgrade00:55
wendaryeah, the original code he submitted was compatible with oneiric00:55
wendarit's more of an efficiency thing00:56
wendar(with apps I don't mind packaging them for oneiric now, since I imagine the code will update to precise with little work)00:56
ajmitchyou could ask him about it, I guess :)00:57
wendarmhall119: and if not that one, are there any other lenses or scopes from your list that you want to get through before we move on to precise ones?00:58
wendarajmitch: I'll do that too00:58
mhall119wendar: there may be a prior version that is for oneiric that we can use for that01:00
mhall119wendar: which graphic design scopes were submitted?01:03
wendarmhall119: yeah, it's really a question of what the author wants. I'm happy to do either oneiric or precise at this point, but oneiric won't be around much longer so may not be worth the effort.01:03
mhall119well it'll be around for a year still01:04
wendarmhall119: 4 graphic design scopes were published, for ColourLovers, Dribbble, Iconfinder, and DeviantArt01:05
wendarmhall119: aye, but if we need work done, will he want to do it for oneiric?01:05
mhall119wendar: that I don't know01:06
mhall119wendar: did the book lens get into USC for Oneiric?01:06
wendarmhall119: I haven't seen it submitted, is it ready to go?01:07
mhall119According to my spreadsheet it is01:07
mhall119it's davidcalle's though01:08
mhall119not mine01:08
wendardo you want to ping him? or would you like me to?01:09
wendarIf the code is ready to go, we could get it up in a week.01:10
mhall119wendar: that would be great, I can ping him tomorrow (He's in Spain, IIRC, so pretty late for him)01:10
wendarmhall119: okay, great!01:10
mhall119he also has a photos lens and scopes that would be a good candidate to go01:10
wendarsounds good01:11
mhall119wendar: I'll let you know tomorrow, or just have him start submitting whatever he has ready for Oneiric01:11
wendarI'd like to get Oneiric scopes pushed through as quickly as possible01:11
wendarso they have time out in the public eye before people start upgrading to Precise01:11
mhall119me too, if we can get through all of the Oneiric ones before we open it up for Precise, that would be fantastic01:11
ajmitchhow many are there?01:13
wendarajmitch: only 4 music scopes in the ARB queue01:13
wendarajmitch: but mhall119 has a list of oneiric and precise lenses/scopes in a spreadsheet01:14
wendarajmitch: in various stages of completion, so I don't have a quick count of how many could be published soon in Oneiric01:14
wendarajmitch: I'd guess fewer than 501:15
wendar(that is, fewer than 5 source packages managed by the ARB, with maybe 4 individual scopes/lenses in each)01:15
ajmitchalright01:15
* ajmitch just had an idea for another lens last night, but has a few too many other things to do right now :)01:16
wendarI know the feeling :)01:16
ajmitchI need to get ARB stuff out of the way before I start anything new, I think01:17
ajmitchthe queue still has a few old entries to be looked at01:17
wendarajmitch: aye, and I'm still not sure we're getting old apps back in the queue once the developer responds to our questions01:19
wendarajmitch: which makes me less inclined to bump them quickly back to the developer for changes01:19
ajmitchI don't think we are, i emailed David Pitkin & he said he'd get those bugs looked at01:20
wendarajmitch: cool01:21
wendarajmitch: one quick one you could do is rejecting TerraView01:23
wendarajmitch: it's enormous01:23
ajmitchyeah, I should do01:23
ajmitchthat's one we'd talked about & I was going to point them to the debian GIS team01:23
wendarajmitch: yup, that's a good idea01:25
mhall119wendar: I have 11 "ready", but some won't be getting submitted01:38
wendarmhall119: okay, makes sense01:38
mhall119most notably the porn lens and piratebay torrent scope01:38
wendarmhall119: ah, yeah, we already talked about the porn lens01:39
wendarmhall119: and, yeah, I think we'd have to skip the piratebay one too01:39
mhall119yeah01:39
ajmitchare there lenses written at the moment that authenticate to a webservice?01:40
wendarajmitch: not that I've seen02:05
wendarajmitch: it'd be possible, but they the Unity Lens interface wouldn't provide any way to enter credentials, so the app would have to do that separately02:06
wendarajmitch: maybe with a simple "configuration" app that ships with the Lens02:07
ajmitchwendar: I've seen suggestions to use gnome-online-accounts02:30
ajmitchwhich helps for storing them, I haven't looked at it for getting the initial auth tokens02:31
wendarajmitch: yeah, it makes sense to use an established piece for storing credentials02:47
ajmitchwendar: my grand idea last night was for a trello lens, since we're using it a bit for organising pycon :)02:48
wendarajmitch: ah, that could be quite cool02:49
ajmitchyes, I just have to actually do it, after my other obligations02:49
* ajmitch will push tagplayer & harmonyseq for voting tonight if possible02:51
mhall119wendar: ping17:29
wendarmhall119: pong17:36
mhall119wendar: could you do me a favor and email or ping me when a scope or lens makes it to the software center?  I'd like to promote them once they land17:37
wendarmhall119: sure17:37
mhall119thanks17:37
ajmitchwendar: just looking at LEDS now...19:41
ajmitchlooks simple enough, the author was considerate enough to even put comments in both spanish & english :)19:42
ajmitchhowever a test build failed in pbuilder:19:43
ajmitch   dh_auto_clean19:43
ajmitchTraceback (most recent call last):19:43
ajmitch  File "setup.py", line 4, in <module>19:43
ajmitch    from DistUtilsExtra.command import *19:43
ajmitchImportError: No module named DistUtilsExtra.command19:43
wendarI pushed an update to the ppa19:44
wendarnot to the repo yet19:44
ajmitchah right :)19:44
wendarpushed now, update your checkout19:46
ajmitchgreat, that build-depends looks better19:47
ajmitchwendar: sorry, got distracted by -motu - it builds fine now, all files look to be in the right place19:55
ajmitchapplication UI could do with a lot of HIG love, but I'll +1 this, will reply on mailing list :)19:57
wendarajmitch: so, I sent out LEO-Compiler with a "request for more information" and it popped back up in the list when the author replied21:27
wendarajmitch: that means the comment/response bit is working, at least in the general case21:27
wendarajmitch: but, it hasn't been working for LEDs21:27
ajmitchright, that part works, but does the state change in the myapps queue?21:28
ajmitchhm, intresting21:28
wendarajmitch: so maybe there's something specific about that app21:28
ajmitchI've pushed harmonyseq to the staging PPA & ot my branch21:28
ajmitchs/ot/to/21:28
wendarajmitch: well, the LEDs problem was that it didn't reappear in the queue at all21:28
ajmitchLEO compiler reappeared?21:28
wendarah, cool (on harmonyseq)21:28
wendaryup, LEO compiler just popped back into the queue when they replied21:29
ajmitchyeah, one thing I'm not entirely sure on is whether I can use an .svg for XB-Icon in debian/control21:29
wendarit has to be a .png21:29
ajmitchok21:29
stgraberso far, we assumed that wouldn't work :) best to go with .png indeed21:29
wendarI tried .svg too, it didn't work and stgraber told me only .png works21:29
ajmitchthere's no 64x64 png, sadly21:29
stgraberoh, ok, then we KNOW it doesn't work ;)21:29
wendarnot even in the MyApps pages?21:29
ajmitchknowing my luck, there will be there :)21:30
ajmitchand there is, I'll use that... :)21:30
ajmitchsilly me, I used the screenshot from there21:30
wendaryeah, I've done that several times too, only realized as an afterthought that there already was a .png in the MyApps submission21:32
ajmitchtagplayer has a 64x64 icon there & a screenshot, I just need to use a different tarball that what I was building with, so the patches applie (or I use a native package)21:33
ajmitchso I'll finish that tonight, sorry I've taken so long with it21:34
wendarajmitch: great!22:06
wendarshould I refresh the review shifts?22:06
wendari.e. are people finding it useful to have a scheduled time?22:07
wendarI haven't had any developers popping up during the shift, so it's more a matter of personal value to the reviewers22:07
ajmitchwendar: I haven't been sticking to mine very well22:08
ajmitchthough that's probably more due to my time management than anything22:10
wendarwell, I kind of figure the value of the review shifts is all in whether it's a help for time management22:16
wendarif they don't actually help with time management, and just make volunteers feel guilty for not doing the shift, then they're not valuable :)22:17
wendarmaking volunteer activities fun is the magic silver bullet22:20
ajmitchyeah, it is, and also the hardest thing to do sometimes :)22:20
wendaryup :)22:21

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