[00:51] <wendar> mhall119: Mark Tully's music scopes have been updated to use Unity 5 (the version in precise) in his bzr branches, do you know if he wants to submit them for Oneiric or Precise?
[00:51] <ajmitch> precise
[00:52] <ajmitch> I don't see unity 5 being backported to oneiric
[00:52] <ajmitch> since the API's not compatible, there'd be no point submitting the packages for oneiric, I think
[00:55] <wendar> agreed, I just wasn't sure if he wanted to get an older version of his scopes into Oneiric, or go full steam ahead with the latest code for precise
[00:55] <wendar> If Oneiric, then it'd be the first thing I work on next
[00:55] <wendar> If Precise, then we need the precise pocket open before we can launch it
[00:55] <wendar> if it's all the same for him, I'd suggest going ahead with precise
[00:55] <wendar> since Oneiric isn't an LTS, most people are going to upgrade
[00:55] <wendar> yeah, the original code he submitted was compatible with oneiric
[00:56] <wendar> it's more of an efficiency thing
[00:56] <wendar> (with apps I don't mind packaging them for oneiric now, since I imagine the code will update to precise with little work)
[00:57] <ajmitch> you could ask him about it, I guess :)
[00:58] <wendar> mhall119: and if not that one, are there any other lenses or scopes from your list that you want to get through before we move on to precise ones?
[00:58] <wendar> ajmitch: I'll do that too
[01:00] <mhall119> wendar: there may be a prior version that is for oneiric that we can use for that
[01:03] <mhall119> wendar: which graphic design scopes were submitted?
[01:03] <wendar> mhall119: yeah, it's really a question of what the author wants. I'm happy to do either oneiric or precise at this point, but oneiric won't be around much longer so may not be worth the effort.
[01:04] <mhall119> well it'll be around for a year still
[01:05] <wendar> mhall119: 4 graphic design scopes were published, for ColourLovers, Dribbble, Iconfinder, and DeviantArt
[01:05] <wendar> mhall119: aye, but if we need work done, will he want to do it for oneiric?
[01:06] <mhall119> wendar: that I don't know
[01:06] <mhall119> wendar: did the book lens get into USC for Oneiric?
[01:07] <wendar> mhall119: I haven't seen it submitted, is it ready to go?
[01:07] <mhall119> According to my spreadsheet it is
[01:08] <mhall119> it's davidcalle's though
[01:08] <mhall119> not mine
[01:09] <wendar> do you want to ping him? or would you like me to?
[01:10] <wendar> If the code is ready to go, we could get it up in a week.
[01:10] <mhall119> wendar: that would be great, I can ping him tomorrow (He's in Spain, IIRC, so pretty late for him)
[01:10] <wendar> mhall119: okay, great!
[01:10] <mhall119> he also has a photos lens and scopes that would be a good candidate to go
[01:11] <wendar> sounds good
[01:11] <mhall119> wendar: I'll let you know tomorrow, or just have him start submitting whatever he has ready for Oneiric
[01:11] <wendar> I'd like to get Oneiric scopes pushed through as quickly as possible
[01:11] <wendar> so they have time out in the public eye before people start upgrading to Precise
[01:11] <mhall119> me too, if we can get through all of the Oneiric ones before we open it up for Precise, that would be fantastic
[01:13] <ajmitch> how many are there?
[01:13] <wendar> ajmitch: only 4 music scopes in the ARB queue
[01:14] <wendar> ajmitch: but mhall119 has a list of oneiric and precise lenses/scopes in a spreadsheet
[01:14] <wendar> ajmitch: in various stages of completion, so I don't have a quick count of how many could be published soon in Oneiric
[01:15] <wendar> ajmitch: I'd guess fewer than 5
[01:15] <wendar> (that is, fewer than 5 source packages managed by the ARB, with maybe 4 individual scopes/lenses in each)
[01:15] <ajmitch> alright
[01:16]  * ajmitch just had an idea for another lens last night, but has a few too many other things to do right now :)
[01:16] <wendar> I know the feeling :)
[01:17] <ajmitch> I need to get ARB stuff out of the way before I start anything new, I think
[01:17] <ajmitch> the queue still has a few old entries to be looked at
[01:19] <wendar> ajmitch: aye, and I'm still not sure we're getting old apps back in the queue once the developer responds to our questions
[01:19] <wendar> ajmitch: which makes me less inclined to bump them quickly back to the developer for changes
[01:20] <ajmitch> I don't think we are, i emailed David Pitkin & he said he'd get those bugs looked at
[01:21] <wendar> ajmitch: cool
[01:23] <wendar> ajmitch: one quick one you could do is rejecting TerraView
[01:23] <wendar> ajmitch: it's enormous
[01:23] <ajmitch> yeah, I should do
[01:23] <ajmitch> that's one we'd talked about & I was going to point them to the debian GIS team
[01:25] <wendar> ajmitch: yup, that's a good idea
[01:38] <mhall119> wendar: I have 11 "ready", but some won't be getting submitted
[01:38] <wendar> mhall119: okay, makes sense
[01:38] <mhall119> most notably the porn lens and piratebay torrent scope
[01:39] <wendar> mhall119: ah, yeah, we already talked about the porn lens
[01:39] <wendar> mhall119: and, yeah, I think we'd have to skip the piratebay one too
[01:39] <mhall119> yeah
[01:40] <ajmitch> are there lenses written at the moment that authenticate to a webservice?
[02:05] <wendar> ajmitch: not that I've seen
[02:06] <wendar> ajmitch: it'd be possible, but they the Unity Lens interface wouldn't provide any way to enter credentials, so the app would have to do that separately
[02:07] <wendar> ajmitch: maybe with a simple "configuration" app that ships with the Lens
[02:30] <ajmitch> wendar: I've seen suggestions to use gnome-online-accounts
[02:31] <ajmitch> which helps for storing them, I haven't looked at it for getting the initial auth tokens
[02:47] <wendar> ajmitch: yeah, it makes sense to use an established piece for storing credentials
[02:48] <ajmitch> wendar: my grand idea last night was for a trello lens, since we're using it a bit for organising pycon :)
[02:49] <wendar> ajmitch: ah, that could be quite cool
[02:49] <ajmitch> yes, I just have to actually do it, after my other obligations
[02:51]  * ajmitch will push tagplayer & harmonyseq for voting tonight if possible
[17:29] <mhall119> wendar: ping
[17:36] <wendar> mhall119: pong
[17:37] <mhall119> wendar: could you do me a favor and email or ping me when a scope or lens makes it to the software center?  I'd like to promote them once they land
[17:37] <wendar> mhall119: sure
[17:37] <mhall119> thanks
[19:41] <ajmitch> wendar: just looking at LEDS now...
[19:42] <ajmitch> looks simple enough, the author was considerate enough to even put comments in both spanish & english :)
[19:43] <ajmitch> however a test build failed in pbuilder:
[19:43] <ajmitch>    dh_auto_clean
[19:43] <ajmitch> Traceback (most recent call last):
[19:43] <ajmitch>   File "setup.py", line 4, in <module>
[19:43] <ajmitch>     from DistUtilsExtra.command import *
[19:43] <ajmitch> ImportError: No module named DistUtilsExtra.command
[19:44] <wendar> I pushed an update to the ppa
[19:44] <wendar> not to the repo yet
[19:44] <ajmitch> ah right :)
[19:46] <wendar> pushed now, update your checkout
[19:47] <ajmitch> great, that build-depends looks better
[19:55] <ajmitch> wendar: sorry, got distracted by -motu - it builds fine now, all files look to be in the right place
[19:57] <ajmitch> application UI could do with a lot of HIG love, but I'll +1 this, will reply on mailing list :)
[21:27] <wendar> ajmitch: so, I sent out LEO-Compiler with a "request for more information" and it popped back up in the list when the author replied
[21:27] <wendar> ajmitch: that means the comment/response bit is working, at least in the general case
[21:27] <wendar> ajmitch: but, it hasn't been working for LEDs
[21:28] <ajmitch> right, that part works, but does the state change in the myapps queue?
[21:28] <ajmitch> hm, intresting
[21:28] <wendar> ajmitch: so maybe there's something specific about that app
[21:28] <ajmitch> I've pushed harmonyseq to the staging PPA & ot my branch
[21:28] <ajmitch> s/ot/to/
[21:28] <wendar> ajmitch: well, the LEDs problem was that it didn't reappear in the queue at all
[21:28] <ajmitch> LEO compiler reappeared?
[21:28] <wendar> ah, cool (on harmonyseq)
[21:29] <wendar> yup, LEO compiler just popped back into the queue when they replied
[21:29] <ajmitch> yeah, one thing I'm not entirely sure on is whether I can use an .svg for XB-Icon in debian/control
[21:29] <wendar> it has to be a .png
[21:29] <ajmitch> ok
[21:29] <stgraber> so far, we assumed that wouldn't work :) best to go with .png indeed
[21:29] <wendar> I tried .svg too, it didn't work and stgraber told me only .png works
[21:29] <ajmitch> there's no 64x64 png, sadly
[21:29] <stgraber> oh, ok, then we KNOW it doesn't work ;)
[21:29] <wendar> not even in the MyApps pages?
[21:30] <ajmitch> knowing my luck, there will be there :)
[21:30] <ajmitch> and there is, I'll use that... :)
[21:30] <ajmitch> silly me, I used the screenshot from there
[21:32] <wendar> yeah, I've done that several times too, only realized as an afterthought that there already was a .png in the MyApps submission
[21:33] <ajmitch> tagplayer has a 64x64 icon there & a screenshot, I just need to use a different tarball that what I was building with, so the patches applie (or I use a native package)
[21:34] <ajmitch> so I'll finish that tonight, sorry I've taken so long with it
[22:06] <wendar> ajmitch: great!
[22:06] <wendar> should I refresh the review shifts?
[22:07] <wendar> i.e. are people finding it useful to have a scheduled time?
[22:07] <wendar> I haven't had any developers popping up during the shift, so it's more a matter of personal value to the reviewers
[22:08] <ajmitch> wendar: I haven't been sticking to mine very well
[22:10] <ajmitch> though that's probably more due to my time management than anything
[22:16] <wendar> well, I kind of figure the value of the review shifts is all in whether it's a help for time management
[22:17] <wendar> if they don't actually help with time management, and just make volunteers feel guilty for not doing the shift, then they're not valuable :)
[22:20] <wendar> making volunteer activities fun is the magic silver bullet
[22:20] <ajmitch> yeah, it is, and also the hardest thing to do sometimes :)
[22:21] <wendar> yup :)