[00:00] <infinity> jbicha: I assume you mean other than the copy in the archive that's already built on arm?
[00:02] <jbicha> infinity: no, the one in the archive that just failed to build
[00:02] <infinity> jbicha: Oh, just uploaded.  Check.
[00:03] <infinity> Looks like possible GL versus GLES issues.
[00:03] <infinity> Did this have an FFe? :/
[00:04] <jbicha> yes, bug 941617 but I didn't think to ask if someone could test it on ARM first
[00:04] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 941617 in clutter-1.0 "FFe: Update clutter/cogl to 1.9" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/941617
[00:05] <infinity> jbicha: I'm not wildly well-versed on the GL versus GLES issues, but before anyone goes digging too deeply, does ./configure perhaps have any switches that jump out as being "use GLES instead of GL"?
[00:06] <infinity> Oh, which it is doing.
[00:06] <jbicha> http://git.gnome.org/browse/cogl/tree/configure.ac
[00:07] <infinity> I can perhaps help you look in a day or two, when I don't have a mess of deadlines.
[00:07] <infinity> If you need help sooner, I recommend janimo`. ;)
[00:08] <infinity> Or, you can log in to scheat, and debug yourself.
[00:08] <jbicha> scheat? I doubt I have access?
[00:08] <infinity> You don't have access to the canonical porter boxes?
[00:09] <jbicha> infinity: I'm not a canonical employee nor has an exception been made for me
[00:10] <infinity> jbicha: Oh, hahaha.  The logo for the not-canonical LP group throws me every time.
[00:10] <infinity> jbicha: That needs to be less subtle. :P
[00:11] <infinity> jbicha: But yeah, I'd either ask janimo` or, if you don't like Jani for some reason and can wait a few days, ask me. :)
[00:11] <infinity> jbicha: A bit too headless chickeny right now to look into it deeply.
[00:11] <jbicha> infinity: so how should I fix the archive? do a ~really until we figure it out?
[00:11] <infinity> jbicha: Or just let it be broken for a bit.
[00:11] <infinity> jbicha: The cogl stack isn't in any seeds other than supported.
[00:12] <infinity> jbicha: So, it's not breaking CDs or anything.
[00:12] <infinity> jbicha: Heck, jani might wake up in the morning and fix it for you. :P
[00:14] <infinity> janimo`: If you have time to waste when you wake up, can you look at cogl's FTBFS for jbicha and see if anything jumps out at you?
[00:15] <infinity> janimo`: (If not, I'll help him on Thursday, I just have some annoying deadlines tomorrow)
[00:16] <GrueMaster> like md5sums????
[00:16]  * GrueMaster ducks.
[00:17] <infinity> GrueMaster: Yes, and that.
[00:17] <GrueMaster> :P
[00:17] <infinity> GrueMaster: I might just "fix" md5sums for now by removing the clever caching/reusing logic until I can make it do what we mean, not what we asked.
[00:18] <infinity> Makes publishing a bit slower, but I really doubt that matters terribly when compared to build time.
[00:18] <GrueMaster> I'm in no particular hurry.  Just adds a level of assurance when an image goes boink during testing.
[00:18] <infinity> Yeah, it's good to have.
[00:19] <infinity> But it's not been the top of my queue either.  It's up there, though.
[00:19] <GrueMaster> As long as Beta 2 is good, I'll only poke occasionally.  :P
[00:25] <pbuckley> beta 1 has been really solid for me.. for what its worth
[00:26] <pbuckley> a few years ago you could have even called it a release candidate ;)
[00:26] <infinity> Blame the +1 maintenance team for some of that.
[00:26] <infinity> Though from the ARM perspective, we've put a lot of work into precise.
[00:26] <pbuckley> its noticable
[00:26] <infinity> (It didn't seem like it, really, but we "accidentally" did a lot of ARM fixing and tweaking while doing the armhf bringup)
[00:26] <pbuckley> i went to 12.04 just to test it out from 11.10.. never went back
[00:27] <infinity> I suppose incidentally is a better term. :P
[00:27] <pbuckley> heh
[00:27] <pbuckley> makes it sound more intentional ;)
[00:27] <infinity> Well, it was.
[00:27] <infinity> Opportunistically, even.
[00:27] <pbuckley> that those are big words
[00:27] <GrueMaster> Speaking of...how is your audio?
[00:28] <pbuckley> great.. i had to tweak some things in alsamixer to get the right "sound"
[00:28] <pbuckley> but it sounds better then any of my other "mobile" devices
[00:28] <pbuckley> well
[00:28] <pbuckley> there is one bug
[00:28] <pbuckley> but its not that annoying
[00:28] <pbuckley> and its probably a pianobar bug
[00:28] <GrueMaster> Ah.
[00:28] <GrueMaster> I use pithos myself.
[00:29] <pbuckley> basically when you start a new song.. it stutters for half a second
[00:29] <pbuckley> pithos?
[00:29]  * pbuckley goes and looks
[00:29] <GrueMaster> It is a gui Panda client.
[00:29] <GrueMaster> Er Pandora.
[00:29] <pbuckley> nice
[00:30] <pbuckley> http://kevinmehall.net/p/pithos/
[00:30] <pbuckley> wow
[00:30] <pbuckley> that has a few dependencies
[00:31] <GrueMaster> Are you running desktop or headless?  It is designed for desktop.
[00:31] <pbuckley> desktop on this guy
[00:31] <pbuckley> unity ftw
[00:32] <pbuckley> its impressive how well unity runs
[00:32] <infinity> Well, it depends on all the gstreamer plugins.
[00:32] <infinity> Which is just plain wrong.
[00:32] <infinity> But whatever.
[00:32] <pbuckley> i was expecting it to fall on its face before i started on this
[00:32] <infinity> Most people want them all anyway.
[00:32] <GrueMaster> Yes, I can see the difference also.
[00:32] <twb> Uh, I guess "pandora client" doesn't meant the hand-held arm game console?
[00:32] <twb> Oh that's right it's some US-only music site
[00:32] <pbuckley> its that music streaming service
[00:33] <GrueMaster> Yea.  US only.  Sad.
[00:33] <pbuckley> i wonder if pandora is vulnerable to the x-forward thing
[00:33] <pbuckley> since its all web requests
[00:33] <pbuckley> might be a way to get around the us only thing
[00:33] <GrueMaster> Very ugly when I have to ssh tunnel to my home to play music.
[00:34] <GrueMaster> It works fine when going through a sudo-vpn.
[00:34] <pbuckley> (i know i "forget" to sanitize x-forward headers at my site)
[00:34] <infinity> pbuckley: No, Forwarded-for headers don't work for Pandora.
[00:34] <pbuckley> damn
[00:34] <infinity> Just one of the many reasons I have a GRE tunnel to my machine in San Jose.
[00:35] <pbuckley> hrmm
[00:35] <pbuckley> so do i want aacplus or mp3-hifi?
[00:35] <pbuckley> i tried mp3-hifi on pianobar
[00:36] <pbuckley> and that caused a segfault
[00:36] <twb> I'd rather just use music systems that don't oblige me to jump through hoops in the first place
[00:36] <pbuckley> like?
[00:37] <twb> Well, my ISP has unmetered restreams from a bunch of internet radio stations and local community radio stations
[00:37] <twb> Also magnatune
[00:37] <pbuckley> are winamp stations still around?
[00:37] <pbuckley> btw
[00:37] <twb> http://cyber.com.au/~twb/.bin/radio
[00:37] <twb> http://cyber.com.au/~twb/.bin/magnatune
[00:37] <pbuckley> apt-get install pithos
[00:37] <GrueMaster> What was the linux clone of winamp?  Is that still supported?
[00:37] <pbuckley> resulted in Error: Your GStreamer installation is missing a plugin
[00:37] <pbuckley> xmss?
[00:37] <pbuckley> or xmms?
[00:37] <pbuckley> or osmething
[00:38] <GrueMaster> Yea, that was it.
[00:38] <StevenK> xmms has been dead upstream for years
[00:38] <GrueMaster> I used that when I was still on Mandriva (before Ubuntu existed).
[00:38] <twb> GrueMaster: xmms
[00:39] <StevenK> And xmms2's development pace could be described at best as 'glacial'
[00:39] <twb> xmms was unmaintained and forked a couple of times
[00:39] <pbuckley> any idea what gstreamer plugin pithos is complaining about?
[00:39] <twb> xmms2 is a completely different project from the same people; it's client-server (like mpd) but with lots of plugins and a powerful wire protocol.
[00:39] <pbuckley> ERROR:root:Gstreamer error: Your GStreamer installation is missing a plug-in., gstdecodebin2.c(3576): gst_decode_bin_expose (): /GstPlayBin2:player/GstURIDecodeBin:uridecodebin7/GstDecodeBin2:decodebin27:
[00:39] <pbuckley> no suitable plugins found
[00:39] <GrueMaster> pbuckley: Make sure you have restricted & multiverse enabled.
[00:39] <twb> StevenK: I hadn't noticed; I used mplayer until ffmpeg broken on arm and since then I've been using mpg123
[00:39] <infinity> pbuckley: By "WinAMP stations", you mean people using Shoutcast to stream mp3 audio?
[00:40] <pbuckley> yeh
[00:40] <pbuckley> sorry im showing my age
[00:40] <infinity> pbuckley: If so, it's still quite widely used, and supported by more or less every media player in the world.
[00:40] <pbuckley> deb http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/ precise main restricted universe multiverse
[00:40] <pbuckley> that should grab it right?
[00:41] <GrueMaster> yes.  Should.
[00:41] <pbuckley> :(
[00:41] <robclark> rsalveti (or anyone), do I need a newer qemu to do chroot w/ 12.04 armhf filesystem?
[00:42] <robclark> (from 11.10 host)
[00:42] <StevenK> twb: Ah. mpg{321,123} won't work for me, I just finished re-doing my music collection in FLAC.
[00:42] <twb> I don't bother to collect music anymore
[00:42] <twb> Prety much stopped when I got my 701, because it only had 4G of disk
[00:43] <StevenK> I have a 3TiB fileserver for that
[00:43] <rsalveti> robclark: not sure, only used the one at precise
[00:43] <pbuckley> http://pastebin.com/diMGNbDp
[00:43] <robclark> ahh.. please don't tell me I have to update my laptop yet?
[00:43] <pbuckley> if someone wants to show me some pithos love
[00:43] <pbuckley> thats basically what i did
[00:46] <infinity> robclark: oneiric's qemu is fine.
[00:46] <infinity> robclark: Heck, lucid's is fine.
[00:46] <robclark> hmm, am I doing something stoopid?
[00:47] <robclark> oh, wait, probably..
[00:47] <infinity> robclark: Are you talking full system emulation, or binfmt_misc?
[00:47] <infinity> robclark: If it's the latter, did you copy /usr/bin/qemu-arm-static into your chroot?
[00:48] <robclark> I guess you would call it full system emulation.. but I think I forgot to copy qemu-static (new rootfs since last time I did it)
[00:48] <infinity> If it's copying qemu-static into chroots, I wouldn't call it full system, no. :)
[00:48] <infinity> By 'full system emulation', I mean booting a VM in qemu.
[00:48] <robclark> ahh, gotcha..
[00:49] <robclark> but yeah, it was lack of copy of qemu-static.. it was operator error :-P
[00:49] <infinity> But yeah, the copying of /usr/bin/qemu-arm-static into the chroot trick should work fine going at least back to hardy.
[00:49] <infinity> So, you're fine on oneiric. :P
[00:50] <infinity> Oh, maybe I lied.  On hardy and lucid, we're using backported qemu.
[00:50] <infinity> Whatever.  natty, oneiric, and precise are all good. :P
[00:50] <twb> StevenK: getting a NAS would double the amount of hardware I have to babysit
[00:50] <robclark> yup
[00:50] <twb> I'm a sysadmin, the last thing I want to deal with when I go home is ornery hardware :P
[00:50] <pbuckley> have you see the xyfi?
[00:50] <StevenK> twb: Haha
[00:50] <pbuckley> seen
[00:51] <pbuckley> http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/29/option-xyfi-is-worlds-smallest-personal-hotspot-we-go-hand/
[00:51] <pbuckley> its a wifi/cellular/nas in your pocket
[00:57] <GrueMaster> pbuckley: I just installed pithos on my panda.  No issues here.  You may need to "apt-get update".
[00:58] <pbuckley> did :(
[00:58] <pbuckley> grumble
[01:00] <GrueMaster> Oop.  nevermind.  Tried running with mp3-hifi - fail.
[01:00] <pbuckley> yeh
[01:00] <pbuckley> should i use aacplus?
[01:01] <GrueMaster> Works with aacplus
[01:01] <pbuckley> k.. thats what i was using in pianobar
[01:01] <pbuckley> so no big deal
[01:02] <GrueMaster> I'll note it down and look into it tomorrow.  May be it needs the TI sekrit sauce
[01:02] <pbuckley> mmm sekrit sauce
[01:06] <GrueMaster> Maybe this is it.  apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras.  Let you know in a sec.
[01:07] <GrueMaster> (although gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly will probably give you the same results with less packages).
[01:13] <pbuckley> have i mentioned your awesome GrueMaster thats the plugin its missing
[01:13] <pbuckley> however it has a similar result as pianobar
[01:14] <pbuckley> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[01:14] <pbuckley> also
[01:14] <pbuckley> i can't submit a report
[01:14] <pbuckley> it gave me an error "Invalid problem report"
[01:14] <pbuckley> "the report belongs to a package that is not installed"
[01:15] <pbuckley> just reproduced it
[01:16] <GrueMaster> Hmmm.  I now have working mp3 & mp3-hifi.
[01:16] <pbuckley> no segfault?
[01:18] <pbuckley> i think tonight is flash fresh images to pandaboard night
[01:18] <pbuckley> its been what? two months of apt-get dist-upgrades
[01:19] <pbuckley> im sure something is hosed
[01:24] <GrueMaster> Meh, only a couple of weeks since beta 1.
[01:24] <GrueMaster> But to be fair, I am running with the latest daily image.
[01:35] <pbuckley> how rational of idea is it to do a dpkg -l | awk '{print $2}' to get a list of packages.. then after i reinstall do a for pkg in list do apt-get install $pkg done
[01:35] <pbuckley> ?
[01:35] <pbuckley> would be neat if ubuntu one had a "restore" like feature
[01:35] <pbuckley> that reinstalled all the previous packages i had
[01:36] <StevenK> dpkg --get-selections / dpkg --set-selections
[01:37] <twb> That'll lose markauto statuses tho
[01:37] <twb> etckeeper is also very useful
[01:39] <pbuckley> then just dpkg --set-selections < file
[01:39] <pbuckley> ?
[01:39] <pbuckley> markauto?
[01:40] <pbuckley> no matter how deep i find myself in the dpkg rabbit hole.. it always seems to go deeper
[01:40]  * pbuckley reminicses about the old days of dselect
[01:41] <pbuckley> wow
[01:41] <pbuckley> dselect is still around!
[01:42] <pbuckley> and integrated with apt now
[01:42] <pbuckley> man i first started using debian like 17 years ago
[01:42] <pbuckley> :(
[01:42]  * pbuckley feels old all of a sudden
[03:34] <Person987> I am trying to install Mercurial on my pandaboard, I've installed mercurial-common but when I "apt-get install mercurial" I get an error, "Depends: mercurial-common (=1.9.1-1ubuntu0.1) but it is not going to be installed)  E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[03:55] <infinity> Person987: And what version of mercurial-common do you have installed, and where did you get it? :P
[03:55] <infinity> Person987: dpkg -l mercurial-common
[04:01] <Person987> It says version 2.2.1+12-ce292f13
[04:01] <Person987> I added the mercurial ppa in order to get it (I think)
[04:01] <infinity> Uhm.
[04:01] <infinity> Right, then you'd need to install mercurial from that PPA too.
[04:01] <infinity> The version of mercurial you're installing is from oneiric-updates.
[04:01] <Person987> how do you control which ppa it comes from?
[04:02] <infinity> By not removing the PPA. :P
[04:02] <StevenK> infinity: Which is probably not built for ARM?
[04:02] <infinity> StevenK: Oh, hah.  Probably.
[04:02] <Person987> eek
[04:02] <StevenK> Most PPAs do not support ARM, sadly.
[04:02] <infinity> Person987: The other option would be to "dpkg -P mercurial-common", remove the PPA, apt-get update && apt-get install mercurial.
[04:03] <infinity> You don't really need the shiny PPA version, do you?
[04:03] <Person987> about a month ago I set up a pandaboard and to get mercurial I just went through the "Ubuntu Software Center" and it was in there.  This time I'm having trouble finding it.
[04:03] <Person987> No, I don't need the "shiny" one, trying your suggestion above...
[04:03] <infinity> Person987: I'm sure it's in SC somewhere.  But apt-get install mercurial has the same effect.
[04:05] <Person987> I'll remove the ppa's and remove the bits I have and start over then.  I did start by trying to just use "apt-get install mercurial"
[04:05] <infinity> Person987: You may not have had universe enabled when you did that.
[04:06] <infinity> Person987: Though you clearly do now.
[04:07] <Person987> if I use apt-get remove mercurial (and mercurial-common) and remove the PPAs from my sources is that sufficient to get myself "reset"
[04:08] <infinity> s/remove/purge/
[04:08] <infinity> And I don't know.  If all you installed from the PPA was mercurial-common, then yes.
[04:08] <infinity> (And remember to "apt-get update" after you remove the PPA from sources)
[04:11] <micahg> Person987: there's a ppa-purge package to do something like that
[04:12] <Person987> ok after running apt-get update, I got a complaint about duplicate entries, ran it again and its clean, is that a problem?
[04:13] <infinity> "Duplicate entries"?
[04:13] <infinity> Paraphrasing error messages doesn't help. ;)
[04:14] <Person987> ah, I need IRC on my pandaboard so I can copy paste...
[04:15] <Person987> Duplicate sources.list entry http://ppa.launchpad.net/tiomap-dev/release/ubuntu/ oneiric/main armel Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ppa.launchpad.net_tiomap-dev_release_ubuntu_dists_oneiric_main_binary-armel_Packages) W: you may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[04:16] <infinity> Oh, I imagine that's exactly as it sounds.
[04:16] <infinity> Not really an error, just informative.
[04:17] <Person987> ok, thats what I thought but I figured I'd mention it since I've been having problems.  Ok I'm going to try to install mercurial now.
[04:17] <Person987> it automatically got mercurial-common this time...
[04:17] <Person987> promising :-)
[04:19] <Person987> worked!  Thanks so much for walking me through this.  So do you think I didn't have the "universe" enabled in the beginning?  How do you enable that?
[04:20] <infinity> Either by editing sources.list, or by using one of the higher level tools to enable it.
[04:20] <infinity> Software Properties or some such.  I'm not sitting in front of a standard desktop setup right now.
[04:20] <gildean> software sources or package sources or something like that
[04:23] <Person987> Hmm, I definitely did something because I'm finding more stuff in software center now :-)
[04:28] <Person987> Software Center -> edit menu -> Software Sources.  Dialog box has some checkboxes for "main", "universe", "restricted", and "multiverse"
[04:29] <Person987> (in case anyone is as noob as me!)
[12:25] <NsN> Hi, on the 11.10 prebuilt server image, the network card of my gumstix board is not recognized. Can I copy the modules from a known working distribution with a 3.0.x kernel or is this more complicated?
[12:49] <ogra_> NsN, i doubt they would load (different symbols), you would have to rebuild a kernel package with gumstix config options set or see if there is a linaro kernel (ask in #linaro) that supports it (they are usually packaged and available in the ubuntu archive)
[15:10] <GrueMaster> ogra_: Can you think of any reason why the omap server image would break inside initrd and the desktop would be ok?
[15:11] <ogra_> not from the top of my head, no
[15:12] <ogra_> omap4 server works fine here (just using it atm)
[15:12] <GrueMaster> Yea, it appears to only be omap server that is having issues.
[15:12] <GrueMaster> What I am seeing on the serial console is this:
[15:12] <GrueMaster> Uncompressing Linux... done, booting the kernel.
[15:12] <GrueMaster> hwclock: select(
[15:12] <GrueMaster> Then reboot
[15:13] <GrueMaster> (after a long pause).
[15:14] <GrueMaster> Nothing from jasper, no oem-config-debconf, nothing.
[15:16] <GrueMaster> sigh, guess I will have to do a binary search on this between Beta 1 and current.  Find the start of the failure, figure out what package changed.
[15:16] <ogra_> smells like kernel
[15:17] <GrueMaster> As I said, desktop works fine.
[15:17] <GrueMaster> But I suppose if the serial console got hosed that may be it.
[15:17] <ogra_> really weird, up to jasper they should be identical
[15:18] <ogra_> did you check the build date, probably one of them is older and was acrried over from a former daily build
[15:18] <ogra_> (happens if the build fails, though i didnt see any failure mail today)
[15:20] <GrueMaster> time stamps appear accurate on my mirror.  Sizes change consistently.
[15:20] <GrueMaster> Of only we had accurate md5sums...
[15:26] <ogra_> infinity is working on that iirc
[15:27] <GrueMaster> yes.  I just like poking him.  Keeps him motivated.  :P
[15:27] <ogra_> yeah, he is way to distracted by the running foundations tream meeting ...
[15:28] <GrueMaster> So far, it seems to start shortly after Beta1.  0307 failed, flashing 0305 now.
[15:28] <GrueMaster> I don't know everyone's meeting schedules.
[15:28] <ogra_> oh, i didnt know you use such old images
[15:28] <GrueMaster> (hell, I don't even know my own).
[15:29] <GrueMaster> I have copies of every image back to Alpha 2 (had to clear some space).
[15:29] <GrueMaster> I only keep the arm images for historical purposes.  I mirror current only for x86/amd64 for spot comparisons.
[17:22] <jbicha> hi, so cogl was fixed but clutter's now not building on arm
[17:24] <jbicha> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/96782687/buildlog_ubuntu-precise-armel.clutter-1.0_1.9.14-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[17:33] <ogra_> looks like its building some X11/GLX stuff it didnt build before ?
[17:38] <jbicha> yeah, I don't know much about arm or clutter, nor was I able to get a precise arm chroot working yesterday
[17:39] <ogra_> sudo apt-get install qemu-user-static;; sudo qemu-debootstrap --arch armhf .....
[17:39] <infinity> jbicha: Download ubuntu-core-armhf, untar, cp /usr/bin/qemu-.... Or, do what ogra said. :P
[17:40] <jbicha> I was getting some memory errors yesterday...
[17:42] <jbicha> I used mk-sbuild --arch=armhf precise but got "%n in writable segment detected" errors
[17:43]  * ogra_ never used mk-sbuild ...
[17:44] <jbicha> I might have hit bug 947888
[17:44] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 947888 in qemu-linaro "Unable to generate linaro images using qemu-linaro" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/947888
[17:45] <ogra_> no idea, my qemu-deboostrap chroot works fine here
[18:11] <steev_> trying to apt-get update, and i'm getting BADSIGs
[18:13] <infinity> steev_: Proxy hates you, mirror broken.
[18:13] <infinity> steev_: Those are the two standard answers.
[18:14] <GrueMaster> steev_: Local mirror or ports.u.c?
[18:16] <steev_> GrueMaster: ports.u
[18:16] <MrCurious> is there a command that will tell me what package a program is from?  i have a system that is lacking "ps" for some reason
[18:16] <GrueMaster> Not much I can suggest there other than wait for 20 minutes and try again.
[18:17] <GrueMaster> MrCurious: Our images usually have "command-not-found" installed, which is a shell extension that will tell you which package to install if you type a command that isn't in the system.
[18:18] <GrueMaster> (assuming the command typed is an actual app in the pool).
[18:18] <steev_> yeah i'll wait til i get home, i *really* hate the internets (or lack thereof) at the office
[18:18] <MrCurious> awesome! installing it now :D
[18:18] <MrCurious> thanks grue
[18:19] <GrueMaster> steev_: I have a local mirror that updates every 2 hours.  90% of the time it just flies.  10% it will hiccup, but resolve itsself within 2 hours.
[18:20] <steev_> GrueMaster: good to know, i tend to update somewhat often while in beta like it is (and not update when it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop)
[18:20] <GrueMaster> Currently, the mirror is using 261G for all of ports.u.c armel/armhf binaries.  I don't mirror sources.
[18:21] <steev_> oh that's not bad
[18:21] <GrueMaster> For updates, I recommend running "apt-get dist-upgrade" and canceling if it lists any packages to be removed.
[18:21] <steev_> once i figure out the lesser of the two evils (AT&T vs. Time Warner), and get my home internet connection set up, I'll probably mirror as well
[18:21] <GrueMaster> That usually signals pool churn.
[18:21] <steev_> GrueMaster: that's what i meant
[18:22] <steev_> if dist-upgrade wants to remove something i hold off til next time i'm passing through the kitchen (which is where my efika smartbook currently resides)
[18:22] <GrueMaster> The BADSIG's is a different issue, and usually just means you happened to time it at the same time as the repo is updating.
[18:23] <GrueMaster> If dist-upgrade threatens to remove stuff, just run apt-get upgrade.  That will keep most stuff current.
[18:24] <GrueMaster> dist upgrade gets the tip of everything, as long as all dependencies can be met (pool churn).
[18:37] <steev_> i think it might have screwed up because of the internet connection.  it connected to an open access point (my fault), and it's one of those captive portals, and i ran apt-get update while on it, thinking i was on a different network
[18:38] <GrueMaster> heh.  oops.
[18:39] <ogra_> badsig is typical for a so called "transparent" proxy
[19:58] <pbuckley> GrueMaster: btw that audio studio problem was a pianobar issue.. pithos works great
[19:58] <pbuckley> /studio/stutter
[19:58] <GrueMaster> Cool.  Glad to hear it.
[20:26] <wart___> hi folks. i'm looking for a little more information on ubuntu on the transformer prime.
[20:26] <wart___> i think lilstevie is here or lurks here.
[20:27] <wart___> i'm trying to get gentoo on it, but my problem is at a very general level: getting the kernel to compile.
[20:27] <wart___> here's my bug report: https://github.com/AndroidRoot/android_kernel_asus_tf201/issues/1
[20:27] <wart___> i'd be curious to see what you did to get a kernel working.  once i have that, i should be good to dd an img and reboot :-)
[20:28] <wart___> my chroot is fine, and the TFT is amazing for compiling things.
[20:28] <wart___> lilstevie: ^^
[21:12] <steev_> ogra_: on 3 different networks?
[21:13] <steev_> because i'm still getting BADSIG here :/
[21:15]  * GrueMaster checks 
[21:17] <GrueMaster> steev_: I don't see that issue here with precise armhf, local mirror or ports.u.c.
[21:18] <GrueMaster> checking armel now.
[21:21] <GrueMaster> No problems with either armel or armhf precise here.
[21:30] <steev_> GrueMaster: yeah, i'm trying the old windows fix currently
[21:31] <steev_> ><
[21:31] <steev_> stupid power management
[21:31] <steev_> 3% means i still have 2 more hours of battery life, stop suspending]
[21:32] <GrueMaster> heh
[21:32] <GrueMaster> I assume this is on an arm netbook of some sort?
[21:32] <steev_> yeah the efika smartbook
[21:39] <steev_> gah, wtf, every time i unsuspend it warns me again that the battery is critically low and re-suspends
[21:40] <steev_> p.s. the cancel button is worthless
[22:23] <flowd> hi, can so here help me with installing ubuntu 11.10 on pandaboard?
[22:23] <flowd> the system configuration at the beginning always crashes at "copiing installation log"..
[22:25] <xranby_ac100> flowd: most likely something went wrong when you prepared the sdcard
[22:25] <GrueMaster> flowd: When that happens after the first pass through oem-config, use <ctrl><alt><F1> to open a console, login with the account you created, and type "sudo oem-config-remove && sudo reboot".
[22:25] <GrueMaster> Known race condition in Oneiric.
[22:25] <xranby_ac100> flowd: .. what GrueMaster said :)
[22:27] <xranby_ac100> GrueMaster: hi, did you have a chance to look at the rare kernel deadlock stall?
[22:28] <xranby_ac100> GrueMaster: i am planning to try setup a kernel with lockdep kernel lock verifier compiled in in oder to trace and recode the call sequence better that causes the stall
[22:29] <xranby_ac100> i am able to reproduce the bug using both ubuntu 11.10 and linaro 12.02 kernels
[22:32] <flowd> @GrueMaster thx, that works :) installed it several times with new downloaded image and other versions, now it finally boots normal :)