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ximionbdmurray: hi!14:58
ximionsorry for interrupting :P14:58
ximionI'd like to have permission to read private bugs in Launchpad and to set their priority, so I send a request to the right mailinglist, according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugControl14:59
ximionthis was some months ago14:59
ximionunfortunately, I haven't got a reply yet14:59
ximionI am Debian Maintainer and upstream dev for PackageKit, projectM, some KDE libs, GNOME-PackageKit, and some other stuff15:00
bdmurrayximion: I'm in a meeting at the moment but will look shortly15:00
ximionbdmurray: okay, it's nothing which needs fast-solving15:01
ximionI'd just like to sort these bugs set priority for Ubuntu bugs and to see the private bugs15:01
ximionmvo said, you'd be able to help there ;-)15:02
mvo+1 for ximion from me15:03
ximion:-)15:04
hggdhximion: I do not remember your application (at least with this nick).15:06
bdmurrayhggdh: I found it and someone didn't include him in the reply15:06
bdmurrayanyway I am adding him now15:07
hggdhperfect15:07
hggdhthank you bdmurray15:07
ximionhehe ^^15:07
hggdhximion: we are sorry this fell thru the cracks15:07
ximionthen sorry for sending it twice - I thought the first text went missing :P15:07
hggdhheh15:08
ximionhggdh: no problem - maybe I should have asked earlier :)15:08
ximion(just got a private-bug-duplicate again today, so I thought asking mvo if I did something wrong might be a good idea ^^)15:09
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hggdhximion: yes, as a rule of thumb, if you ask something from us, and do not get a timely response, yell nicely ;-)15:09
ximionuh, crap! Impressive how many crashes have been reported there :-/15:11
ximionfortunately, it looks like half of the packagekit crashes are invalid, related to old code in a beta Lucid Lynx :)15:12
hggdhnothing like someone who knows the stuff :-)15:13
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ximion^^15:17
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alo21hi all19:03
alo21I wold like triaging bug...19:04
alo21I am reading: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage19:04
alo21is ok?19:04
pleia2alo21: yes, just ask here if you have questions (and be patient, people aren't always looking at the channel)19:05
alo21pleia2: ok19:06
alo21pleia2: one more questio...19:06
alo21what should I do after reading that page?19:07
greg-galo21: try triaging a bug :) Again, if you are unsure, or want someone to check what you did, please ask in here19:10
alo21greg-g: So... no one will be my tutor?19:11
alo21greg-g: Could you follow me on triagin my first bug? (if you want)?19:26
greg-galo21: I'm sorry, right now I don't have that kind of time to commit. I am in the middle of my work day. If you want to take some first steps yourself, that'd be great.19:30
greg-gAgain, any questions you have just ask them here.19:30
alo21could someone suggest me with wich bug I should start?19:38
hggdhalo21: look at the open bugs; try to find one you can understand what is going on. It is usually better if you stick with what you use19:42
hggdhfor example: if you do not do kernel development, do not touch the kernel (package is 'linux19:43
hggdh') bugs19:43
alo21hggdh: I found one obout rhythmbox, I understood it.19:44
alo21hggdh: but I do not know what to do19:44
hggdhalo21: so now try to reproduce it19:44
alo21hggdh: I am doing it..19:44
alo21hggdh: I can reproduce it.. now I cannot mark it as confirmed.. so what should I do?19:47
hggdhalo21: can you give me the bug #?19:48
alo21hggdh: sure: 955145 may be I should re-write descrition bug better?19:49
hggdhbug 95514519:49
ubot2`Launchpad bug 955145 in rhythmbox "don`t remember last play position" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95514519:49
hggdhalo21: probably a good idea. I am not sure I understand what the problem is (but, then, I do not usually listen on my laptop)19:51
alo21hggdh: after that, what should I do?19:51
greg-galo21: I would ask the reporter exactly what they are expecting the result to be19:52
hggdhalo21: you could go upstream (http://bugzilla.gnome.org) and search for a similar/same bug there. If you find one, we add the link to it in this bug; if you do not, we can open it there)19:52
greg-gDo they want rhythmbox to remember the place in the song you were listening to? or just the song? etc19:52
hggdhalo21: we do not develop rhythmbox, we just package it. Development is at Gnome19:53
hggdhgreg-g: thanks, makes sense :-)19:53
greg-ghggdh: yeah, seems like a feature request, but I'm not sure, not a very clear bug :)19:54
alo21hggdh: greg-g How  I understnd if rhytmbox have this fuction?19:56
greg-gtry it and see if it works19:56
alo21greg-g: I am wandering if rythmbox's developers had introduce this functionality... and in in the previous versions there was this function20:00
alo21greg-g: may be rhythmbox never had thi function20:00
hggdhalo21: what version of Ubuntu are you running?20:00
alo21hggdh: 12.0420:01
hggdhOK. It does sound like a feature request, but only way to find out is to go to bugzilla.gnome.org, search there, etc, etc (as I pointed to above)20:01
alo21hggdh: do I personally or the reporter open the bug on buzilla?20:31
hggdhalo21: we -- the triagers (or working with the triager hat) open it.20:32
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hggdhalo21: most of the packages provided by us are developed elsewhere, so we have to signal the developers that a problem was found20:35
alo21hggdh: ok... thanks20:36
alo21hggdh: I opened a new bug on bugzilla, now I have to post a comment in Launchpad. have I publish the code bug or the link?20:44
hggdhalo21: give us the bugzilla bug as 'gnome ...."20:44
alo21gnome 67209720:44
ubot2`Gnome bug 672097 in User Interface "Rhythmbox doesn't remember the last cursor's position" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67209720:44
hggdhalo21: cool. Now, on our bug, click on "also affects project"20:45
hggdhalo21: in the new page, paste the b.g.o link in the "I have the URL for the upstream bug"20:46
hggdhalo21: then click on the "Add to bug report" button20:46
alo21hggdh: what "b.g.o" means?20:47
hggdhbugzilla.gnome.org (I am lazy)20:48
alo21hggdh: Have I post a comment?20:54
hggdhalo21: I see the upstream bug reflected in our bug. Now, change the status for the 'Rhythmbox (Ubuntu)' from New to Confirmed20:56
hggdhalo21: after you have done that, you would ping us here and ask for setting the bug to Triaged (only members of Bug Control, and package maintainers, can do that)20:57
hggdhalo21: since I am following you now, I will set the bug to triaged myself20:57
alo21hggdh: Done it..20:57
alo21hggdh: can I make a question?20:57
hggdhalo21: and I have just set it as Triaged/Wishlist. It is always good to add some explanation on what yu did, and why you did it20:59
hggdhalo21: and go ahead and ask your question20:59
alo21hggdh: thanks for your support20:59
hggdhalo21: my pleasure :-)20:59
alo21hggdh: my question is: Why I can set the bug as "Comfirmed"  if only two people had found it?21:00
hggdhalo21: a bug is considered confirmed when two (or more) users experience it21:01
hggdhalo21: sometimes users will confirm something that is NOT a bug -- but, perhaps, misunderstanding, or wrong expectation --. But, most of the times, it is correctly set21:02
alo21hggdh: ok... and how can I add an explanation on what I did?21:03
hggdhalo21: you add a comment21:03
hggdh:-)21:03
hggdhlike the one I added when I changed the status to Triaged21:03
alo21hggdh: ok... why your comment and changes appear as one answer if you added the comment after changing the status?21:05
hggdhalo21: I actually added them all together. If you click on the right triangle to the left of the 'Rhythmbox (Ubuntu)' line, you can do it all in one single sweep21:06
alo21hggdh: well.. thanks again!!21:10
hggdhalo21: you are welcome. And thank you for helping21:10
alo21hggdh: as you told, "is my pleasure" :)21:11
hggdh:-)21:11
alo21hggdh: bug 95514522:05
ubot2`Launchpad bug 955145 in rhythmbox "don`t remember last play position" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95514522:05
alo21hggdh: may be a made a mistake22:05
alo21I made.. *22:07
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