=== jalcine is now known as webjadmin_ === webjadmin_ is now known as jalcine === jalcine is now known as webjadmin_ === webjadmin_ is now known as jalcine [00:27] gah... [00:27] I hate it when apport makes a public bug a dupe of a private one [00:27] especially a private one I can't see [00:38] thumper: as a workaround you can ask in #ubuntu-bugs for a specific bug to be publicized [00:38] jbicha: thanks === hggdh_ is now known as hggdh [00:40] jbicha: I thought the SONAME bump was being reverted for cogl [00:44] jbicha: per the bug cogl 1.9.10 was going to revert the bump, so why upload now? [00:45] micahg: the soname for 1.9.8 was cogl9, after that upload, the clutter devs bumped it again to cogl10 & then I complained so they reverted that change [00:45] cogl5 is currently in the archives so they've been making lots of changes this cycle [00:46] jbicha: ah, ok [00:46] it was already up to 10? [00:46] wow [00:46] well it's better than gjs which doesn't bother changing their soname [00:47] they must bump the soname every time they add something to the changelog [00:49] every tarball release where the API was changed [00:50] they change the api alot, must mean they aren't satisfied with it [00:51] * micahg is glad someone else is dealing with gjs/gnome-shell at this point :) [00:57] bjsnider: welcome to intel driver pain in your desktop packages, git master or bust :) [01:01] is network-manager not meant to remember passwords now ? [01:03] lifeless: certainly does here [01:03] hmm [01:03] well, it isn't here :( [01:03] i just switched to another ap and rebooted an hour ago [01:04] and when I select edit on the network connectin in 'edt connections' it says 'Error initializing editor\nNo agents were available for this request.' [01:05] jbicha: I think you just need libgl1-mesa-dev on arm* as well [01:05] jbicha: but you should verify that with janimo [01:06] * micahg can actually try it in a chroot [01:06] something wrong with the last mesa upload? we didnt touch libgl1-mesa-dev, just egl [01:09] thumper, which bug is it? [01:10] micahg: yeah GL_PACK_INVERT_MESA is in gl [01:11] micahg: actually mesa-common-dev [01:12] Sarvatt: right, but libgl1-mesa-dev pulls that in on all the other archs [01:12] * micahg guesses technically it would just be better to add mesa-common-dev explicitly [01:12] but you dont need libGL.so, mesa-common-dev might be more correct (but could be wrong) [01:31] hi Ursinha, sorry didn't notice [01:31] I should file a bug about quassel not keeping urgency [01:31] although I do wonder if it is Qt or just Quassel [01:36] Ursinha: sorry, can't find the bug now :( [01:49] cyphermox: do you have a ppa for oneiric with backported fixes for bug #869635 yet? i think i'm getting hit at least by the modemmanager bug, so i may set one up if not [01:49] Launchpad bug 869635 in wpasupplicant "long delay at shutdown/reboot - network-manager doesn't close correctly" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/869635 [01:49] my computer can't do hw virtualization so I don't know if I can run an arm chroot [01:49] jbicha: HW virt has nothing to do with emulating arm. [01:49] hw virt only helps with running x86 VMs. [01:50] so it doesn't need kvm? [01:50] jbicha: i think you just need to install qemu-user-static [02:21] broder: I installed that and ran sudo sbuild-createchroot --keyring=/etc/apt/trusted.gpg --arch=armhf precise /build/chroot/precise-armhf-sbuild http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/ [02:21] but I get Failure trying to run: chroot /build/chroot/precise-armhf-sbuild mount -t proc proc /proc [02:27] chroot: failed to run command `mount': No such file or directory [02:48] jbicha: huh. i've never tried with sbuild-createchroot. i always use mk-sbuild [02:58] I was just using http://wiki.debian.org/sbuild [02:59] jbicha: i'm running it now to make sure it still works, but i think `mk-sbuild --arch=armhf precise` will work with no other options [03:00] once you have qemu-user-static installed so that you can run armhf binaries [03:01] that command is a bit shorter, trying that now [03:02] mk-sbuild also has a --eatmydata option if you're into that === jalcine is now known as JackyAlcine === JackyAlcine is now known as jalcine [03:56] does the HUD any time i tap alt quickly enough, regardless of other keypresses? it seems to if i press alt-left arrow or alt-right arrow quickly enough (for back/forward in chrome), which is really irritating [04:00] ah, yes. bug #934610. /me subscribes [04:00] Launchpad bug 934610 in unity "HUD - Typing a key combination (e.g. Alt-x) fast enough triggers the HUD" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/934610 [04:00] broder, unrelated... [04:00] can I get glxinfo from you [04:01] I need to collect enough samples to get a feel for driver support for a new unity feature... [04:01] sure: http://paste.ubuntu.com/882762/ [04:03] DBO: that's my desktop. i can get you my laptop, too, if i ever manage to unbreak apt [04:04] broder, the laptop is of higher interest to me [04:04] though I find it odd your nvidia card is not getting GL 4.0 support [04:04] still we only care about 3.0 [04:04] it's a pretty crappy card [04:05] 9500 GT is plenty fast for what I need [04:05] in fact its downright overkill [04:05] i just don't know if i should expect the card itself to have GL 4.0, but i don't really know what i'm talking about when it comes to this sort of thing [04:06] broder, its mostly a driver support issue [04:06] huh, ok [04:06] still, 32 stream units 8.8 billion texels/sec fill rate [04:06] you should be able to kill the effects [04:12] DBO: do you know if checkbox or ubuntu friendly or something is getting glxinfo data? that might be a better source of broad data than asking me :) [04:12] no idea really [04:13] even if it were I dont know if I would have access [04:13] you could talk to ara [04:13] yeah I was hoping to luck upon someone with a G45 chip tonight [04:13] that would seal me requirements quite nicely [04:14] that's...intel g45? [04:14] yeah [04:15] sometimes called the x4500 [04:15] or GMA4500 [04:15] sometimes HD is tacked on the end [04:15] all the same thing for what I care about [04:15] how does this look: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:2a42] (rev 07) [04:16] err, hmm, that laptop has a...G45 audio codec, i think? [04:16] * micahg has that same chiupset [04:17] thats perfect [04:17] give me that [04:17] glxinfo [04:18] micahg: can you get it? i don't have precise installed on that machine at present [04:19] * micahg installs mesa-utils [04:22] DBO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/882776/ [04:22] oh thats *perfect* [04:22] I can just make the cutoff opengl 3.0 support [04:22] no custom rules [04:23] I love it [04:23] thank you micahg [04:23] DBO: you're welcome [04:24] hey RAOF saw your name against the lightdm corruption after boot...how is that going? [04:24] robert_ancell: ^^ [04:26] jasoncwarner_, still getting that annoying white box thingie? [04:26] DBO..yeah [04:26] awesome... [04:27] though the above is a bit different...but yes, getting the white box thingy for sure [04:27] DBO: fwiw, I saw that today [04:27] DBO: any idea yet on that one? makes me soooooo angry ;) [04:27] no [04:27] assuming it's the same white box, thumper thought it probably was :) [04:27] jasoncwarner_, does it block inputs? [04:28] DBO: block input? no, I can do my normal computing stuff, just have this stupid white box over everything including teh dash and launcher etc [04:28] oh oh oh oh I know what [04:28] open uhm [04:29] the on screen keyboard [04:29] that should render above the dash [04:29] does that also render above the white box? [04:30] i don't have the whtie box at the moment, but as soon as I do, I'll test that [04:30] (shoudln't be long now..rebooted about an hour ago ;) ) [04:32] wish I thought of that a while ago [04:32] that will immediately point to the problem area [04:33] jasoncwarner_: I've been firefighting other things. I'll kick into that now. [04:33] RAOF, isn't that as simple as clearing the framebuffer? [04:34] DBO: No; not if you want a seamless transition. [04:35] RAOF, oh... ok :P [04:35] DBO: There isn't a modeset between lightdm and the regular session; it's not X not having anything to draw after a modeset, it's what unity-greeter has drawn to the root window going mad after unity-greeter quits. [04:36] Oh, huh. I thought we couldn't advertise GL 3.0 without S3TC compression support. Apparently we do! [04:37] RAOF, it's GL [04:37] lying is never out of the question [04:38] Heh. [04:38] * RAOF is not at all surprised that the nvidia 9600 doesn't support GL 4.0; it's not a DX11 part. [04:40] DBO: By the way, the Intel sandybridge chips *also* support GL 3.0 on Precise. Just on the off-chance you're hoping 3.0 support implies a certain level of performance :) [04:41] RAOF, I am hoping that 3.0 implies newer nvidia/amd or sandybridge [04:41] but not any older intel [04:41] I believe that is correct [04:42] I think that's correct, too. [04:42] What effect are you trying to do? [04:47] hopefully nothing that requires GLX_ARB_create_context [04:48] Sarvatt, actually we are simply using the 3.0 as an evil performance cutoff [04:49] since apparently running a small benchmark on a users machine is evil... [04:49] DBO: every time you start a unity session or something? that would be evil :P [04:50] pfft it would take like 20ms [04:50] render a couple frames into an FBO [04:50] time it [04:50] done [04:50] That seems like a reasonable solution. [04:51] yeah considered evil... [04:51] Although perhaps not *during* boot. [04:51] nah was going to do it on the first alt-tab [04:51] * RAOF was thinking storing it as configuration, and doing it on first boot. [04:51] that would not account for hardware upgrades [04:51] driver improvements [04:51] Match up to GL renderer string, and you can cache it. [04:52] or us just improving the performance of the effect [04:52] lord knows we are doing an expensive effect that maybe some smart mathy person can make cheaper [04:52] if gl version string isnt' the same, retest? [04:52] Would require a package upgrade, which can trivially trigger a re-benchmark. [04:54] Can we argue with whoever said benchmarking to determine what level of effects should be attempted? :) [04:54] yeah... [04:54] still... [04:54] it was implied to be evil! [04:54] brb [04:54] Doing it in a hot-path isn't going to be a particularly awesome move, but you don't *have* to do it in a hot path :) [04:55] actually [04:55] bed now [04:55] cheers [04:56] G'night! [04:56] Dear universe: why isn't there an IDE that uses autofoo as its project description. [04:58] would be funny if querying the cached gl version string took more time than doing the benchmark though, could totally see that :) [04:59] RAOF: lol good question. [05:01] Sarvatt: Eh, they're already querying the GL vendor string as a part of startup; that info is free. [05:47] Good Morning. [05:48] pretty funny, In fedora 18 the scrollbar reminds me more of ubuntu than anything else [06:04] Good morning [06:08] morning [06:26] good morning [06:36] didrocks: bonjour [06:36] didrocks: ca va? [06:36] guten morgen pitti [06:37] I'm fine, thanks! And you? [06:38] quite well indeed! [06:38] didrocks: I don't dare asking you my question.. [06:40] pitti: hum, what question? :) [06:40] didrocks: what do I need to reset in unity to get your alt fix? [06:41] pitti: euh, nothing normally, just logging out/in after upgrading should be fine [06:41] not working for you? [06:41] (working well here and confirmed on the french forum) [06:41] it still neither works in terminal nor firefox [06:41] hum… [06:41] I got unity 5.6.0-0ubuntu3 yesterday evening, and have booted this morning [06:41] I wonder if you don't have a keybinding blocking [06:42] (a compiz one) [06:42] unity --reset, but that will reset all your compiz keybindings [06:42] probably ok, I can restore them [06:46] keep me posted [07:19] doctor appointment, bbl [07:20] pitti: FYI, on alt + keys, seems that daniel and you still have it not working, so we are looking into it [07:26] didrocks: this may be related to pitti's issue, but alt-f10 doesn't work for me. expected or part of the same bug? [07:27] (nothing happens, and some percentage of the time compiz seems to lock up entirely) [07:47] broder: you mean, it doesn't show the appmenu for you? [07:51] broder: I had that once yesterday, but a second try didn't reproduce === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter [08:52] hey [08:54] bonjour seb128 [08:56] hey pitti, wie gehts? [08:56] gut, danke! und dir? (I'm in my 1-on-1) [08:57] pitti, gut, danke! (heh, finish, my 1:1 is supposed to be in 3 minutes :p) [09:06] seb128: he's all your's; sorry for running over :) [09:06] pitti, no worry, I've time it's my start of day ;-) [09:06] it's for jasoncwarner_ that it's starting being late :p [09:06] nice, dpkg -P python-gobject now is only held back by four packages [09:07] I filed a debian bug for python-zeitgeist (didn't want to introduce a delta for this) [09:07] update-manager and system-config-printer-gnome need porting to GI [09:07] (or s-c-p dropped, rather) [09:07] and python-gst0.10 is only due to sessioninstaller and rhythmbox [09:07] at some point we want to make these work with GI gst [09:08] Greetings. [09:09] oh, the rb dependency is obsolete [09:09] hey didrocks [09:09] pitti: is it just python-gobject -> python-gi? [09:09] hey hey rickspencer3 [09:10] so, when I rebooted, the super key didn;t work [09:10] then opened an app? [09:10] I opened the dash manually, then it worked [09:10] and super key works? [09:10] didrocks, do you want me to look for a rope for you? [09:10] didrocks, sort of [09:10] mvo: no, update-manager-core actually has a few "gobject" imports [09:10] mvo: once that's ported, we can switch [09:10] didrocks, when xchat was busy, it wouldn't work [09:10] seb128: sometimes, I wish people would directly annoy dx, yeah :) [09:11] rickspencer3: interesting, one sec [09:11] seb128, in my defense, I asked didrocks already if he wanted me to check it out ;) [09:11] so, it wasn't a randome ping [09:11] rickspencer3: can you please add and +1 on bug #953089? [09:11] Launchpad bug 953089 in unity-distro-priority "Unity 5.6: Super key doesn't start the dash" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/953089 [09:11] didrocks, yeah [09:11] rickspencer3: then, I'll ping duflu about it [09:11] didrocks: I think you need an IRC autoresponder /(unity|alt|super).*bug/ -> "please ask in #unity" [09:12] anything else I can do to help, let me know [09:12] pitti: well, if only upstream was answering on their channel :/ [09:12] mvo: and gtk as well, of course [09:13] pitti: oh, let me check [09:14] pitti: that is the old DistUpgrade/DistUpgradeViewGtk.py we actually need it like this to support lucid->precise upgrades [09:14] mvo: I moved all packages which use GI to python-gi yesterday [09:14] pitti: or am I missing something? [09:14] good morning everyone [09:14] mvo: well, almost all, there were three which I sent a debian bug for [09:15] mvo: ah, I see [09:15] mvo: well, it's fine; we don't _need_ to drop it in 12.04 yet [09:15] whoever is on precise and running firefox could probably switch to the firefox-next PPA now, to start testing the first post-release update for 12.04 ;) [09:15] mvo: I just did that dependency cleanup yesterday so that it's easier to see what's left to do [09:15] mvo: I figure we can drop the static bits in 12.10? [09:15] pitti: indeed, we can't as its still needed for the upgrade, once 12.04 is out we can drop it [09:15] mvo: perfect [09:15] pitti: great, thanks for the double-check! [09:16] so s-c-p won't be ported, but I figure we'll use the GNOME upstream printing UI in 12.10 [09:17] mvo: I think I already tried moving the gst bits in sessioninstaller to GI, but the gst GIR is not working very well [09:17] anyway, no need to spend vast amount of effort on this now [09:18] mvo: btw, any chance we can look at bug 950676 this week? [09:18] Launchpad bug 950676 in apt "lucid->precise upgrade failure due to gir1.0->gir1.2 conflicts" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/950676 [09:20] pitti: yes! [09:20] killall -9 unity ; unity & should be sufficient after an upgrade, right? [09:21] ok, unity --replace is needed [09:24] didrocks: i expect alt-f10 to maximize the window, but it doesn't [09:26] aha! apparently i'm supposed to retrain myself to use super-up. didn't notice that before - must not have done a unity --reset yet [09:27] broder: alt-f10 doesn't maximize, it's supposed now to open the appmenu [09:29] didrocks: yep, got it. i was having problems immediately after upgrading, so i checked ccsm and alt-f10 was still listed as being the maximize. since then i've done a unity --reset, and it's now showing super-up [09:29] so it seems like i was left without a functioning maximize shortcut immediately after upgrading, which seems suboptimal [09:29] broder: yeah, compiz isn't great for migrating settings unfortunatly [09:29] chop the last 4 words from that sentence ;) [09:29] * chrisccoulson trolling [09:30] :-) [09:30] seems like it might be worth just coming up with some condition where it's reasonable to reset the settings on upgrade. maybe first time you login to the ubuntu session or something? [09:31] hey chrisccoulson, how are you? [09:31] hi seb128. i'm good thanks, but a bit tired. how are you? [09:32] chrisccoulson, lucky you, you can troll without being trolled back, I can't remember having hit any firefox bug this cycle :p [09:32] heh [09:32] chrisccoulson, same here, good but tired, I'm working on it through coffee though ;-) [09:32] yeah, it's fairly solid atm [09:32] and i even run nightly builds :) [09:33] chrisccoulson, time for you to tackle your g-s-d login measurement workitem then! ;-) [09:33] yeah, i'll do that later. just getting firefox 12 beta stuff ready :) [09:33] (already) [09:33] chrisccoulson, is 12 the one which will have some ui changes? [09:34] seb128, what sort of changes? it looks fairly similar to the current version here [09:34] chrisccoulson, dunno, I read some article online which stated they were looking at changing the ui, how tabs are rendered and a few other things [09:34] oh, the theme refresh [09:35] no, that hasn't happened yet [09:35] if that happens, then it won't be before firefox 14, seeing as nothing has landed on trunk yet [09:35] ok [09:35] chrisccoulson, didn't they want to change the startpage as well? [09:35] didrocks: so, unity --reset destroyed all my settings, but alt+left/up are still broken in ffox and weechat :/ [09:36] i'm not sure what's going on with the startpage. i thought they were going to have a home tab, which would be the access point to the app store [09:36] anyway, will deal with this later on, need to run to the supermarked quickly [09:36] but i don't really know what is happening with that just yet [09:36] pitti: yeah, duflu found another place where it can causes this [09:36] chrisccoulson, ok, nothing fancy in 12 yet then ;-) [09:36] pitti: so maybe another today [09:36] what happens to the startpage is probably going to be driven by the requirements of https://wiki.mozilla.org/Web_Apps_integration [09:37] chrisccoulson, is mozilla trying to turn my browser into an OS? ;-) [09:37] lol [09:38] and I can't even say "I will stay on the lts", you will bring the new crack there for us :p [09:38] i really want to provide our own branded local startpage, so that we benefit from some of the features of the upstream startpage [09:38] as it stands, we will miss out on features that are accessed via the upstream startpage [09:39] right [09:39] chrisccoulson, btw did you get anywhere about the search entry not respecting your local for searches? [09:39] or rather google not respecting your locale [09:39] not yet. that reminds me, i need to email someone at google about that [10:06] wow, unlucky day for me :/ [10:07] rickspencer3, what happened? [10:07] I did a dist-upgrade yesterday, eveyrthing was fine [10:07] booted this morning, got a disk check ... then unity didn't quite finish loading [10:07] this is on my workstation [10:07] I did a hard reboot [10:07] I suppose I should have ssh'ed in and gotten logs and stuff [10:07] dang [10:08] worked perfectly this time :) [10:08] brb === Omega is now known as mightbereptar [10:33] pitti, hi [10:33] hello tkamppeter [10:34] pitti, I have committed cups-filters 1.0.5 now. Canb you upload it to Debian and Ubuntu? It fixes all PostScript printer problems. [10:34] tkamppeter: nice! so did it help to reduce the PS level? [10:36] tkamppeter: I'll have a look at debian bug 663564, and then uplaod [10:36] Debian bug 663564 in cups-filters "cups-filters: 'make clean' leaves some object files over" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/663564 [10:36] tkamppeter: that's also something which sohuld go upstream [10:38] * desrt yawns [10:42] pitti, reducing of the PS level did not help. The solution was adding certain workaround code to deactivate some PS features which the interpreters do not like. [10:42] desrt, hey, wth, waking up at the middle of the night now? ;-) [10:42] can't sleep :) [10:42] pitti, The "make clean" issue and some improvement on texttopdf will come in 1.0.6. [10:42] hey desrt [10:43] tkamppeter: ah, so should I leave this bug alone for now? [10:43] pitti, please upload 1.0.5 as it is now, as the bugs it fixes are of high importance. [10:43] ack [10:43] pitti: good morning [10:43] seb128: how's glib? [10:44] i notice you did a subtle increase of the priority on my XUL bug :) [10:44] desrt, glib is just building, I cleared night backlog first [10:45] sounds good. looks like no new crisis for me overnight [10:45] desrt, XUL> no, I just added an Ubuntu component to the bug and make it match the upstream settings [10:46] * desrt notices some nice new gnome upgrades and wonders if it's jbicha or ricotz [10:47] remind me again: what is the dpkg equivalent for cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/${pkgname}.list? [10:49] desrt, dpkg -L binary? [10:50] thanks [10:50] looks like the new gnome-shell upload has problems :( [10:50] desrt, what sort of problems? [10:51] JS ERROR: !!! message = '"missing ; before statement"' [10:51] JS ERROR: !!! Exception was: SyntaxError: missing ; before statement [10:51] JS ERROR: !!! lineNumber = '12' [10:51] JS ERROR: !!! fileName = '"/usr/share/gnome-shell/js/misc/config.js"' [10:51] JS ERROR: !!! stack = '"@/usr/share/gnome-shell/js/ui/main.js:15 [10:51] these sort [10:51] urg [10:51] const HAVE_NETWORKMANAGER = @HAVE_NETWORKMANAGER@; [10:51] oof. [10:51] hum [10:52] i'm not a javascript genius or anything... but that looks more like automake than javascript :) [10:52] desrt, so interesting, new cogl got uploaded and binaries got rejected [10:52] I guess that's because it failed to build on armel and somebody figured it should build everywhere or nowhere ;-) [10:52] what does it mean for binaries to be rejected? [10:52] desrt, that they will never reach you [10:53] curious [10:53] how is that related? [10:53] desrt, related to what? [10:53] the gnome-shell failure [10:53] oh, I'm not speaking about your bug [10:53] ah. okay [10:53] i though you had an explanation :) [10:53] desrt, rather commenting on the "new gnome upgrades" [10:54] desrt, we were > < that close to get the new clutter in :p [10:54] desrt, which meant the new gnome-shell in [10:54] oh [10:54] it's just that armel ruined your party [10:54] so now i have a new ultra-high priority bug :) [10:54] got a log? [10:54] desrt, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/96702927/buildlog_ubuntu-precise-armel.cogl_1.9.8-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [10:55] did you report that already? [10:55] desrt, jbicha used https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/clutter-1.0/+bug/941617 [10:55] Launchpad bug 941617 in clutter-1.0 "FFe: Update clutter/cogl to 1.9" [Wishlist,Confirmed] [10:56] desrt, oh, upstream, dunno if he did [10:56] ahh [10:56] no arm builds for ppa, i'm guessing [10:56] desrt, no [10:56] good morning [10:57] jbicha: good morning [10:57] hey jbicha, how are you? [10:57] jbicha: bad gnome-shell upload? :( [10:58] desrt, hum, glib with your cancellable patches failed to build [10:58] ah. it's a good morning for everybody [10:58] seb128: test failures? [10:59] desrt, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/883085/ [10:59] seb128: you applied one patch and forgot the other [10:59] desrt, bah, some days I hate quilt [11:00] desrt, sorry about that [11:00] :) [11:00] no worries. only increased my heart rate for 1 minute :) [11:00] I had both but I ls >> serie (forgot the 's') [11:00] ahh [11:01] hum [11:01] most curious! [11:01] ./cogl/cogl.c:#ifndef GL_PACK_INVERT_MESA [11:01] ./cogl/cogl.c:#define GL_PACK_INVERT_MESA 0x8758 [11:02] desrt: do you have an ARM chroot? I tried to make one yesterday but I was getting memory errors [11:02] jbicha: i have an arm system, in fact [11:03] jbicha: the fix here is quite obvious, though [11:03] desrt, mhr3: btw the libgee warning issue is fixed after yesterday's "rebuild with current vala" update [11:03] jbicha: the code that uses GL_PACK_INVERT_MESA was originally added to cogl.c with this #ifndef business above [11:03] http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/03/14/%23ubuntu-desktop.html#t01:05 [11:03] the code was later moved to cogl-framebuffer.c [11:03] seb128, awesome, thx [11:04]