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| ajmitch | thomi: did you see if anything else needed to be grabbed from the unity process before I kill it? it's gone even weirder now ;) | 00:24 |
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| thomi | ajmitch: may as well kill it | 00:25 |
| ajmitch | thomi: http://vps.ajmitch.net.nz/~ajmitch/WeirdShit.png | 00:26 |
| thomi | yeah. | 00:27 |
| thomi | that's messed up | 00:27 |
| ajmitch | unity --replace gets rid of the white bar, but doesn't fix the icon placement | 00:27 |
| thumper | ajmitch: what version are you using? | 00:28 |
| ajmitch | currently have 5.4.0-0ubutnu2 installed | 00:28 |
| thumper | I used to see the icon mashing on oneiric | 00:28 |
| thumper | not seen it on precise | 00:28 |
| ajmitch | thumper: yeah, I saw the same on natty & oneiric, this is the first time it's happened on precise | 00:28 |
| thumper | also, I notice you have the same screen corruption as jason warner | 00:28 |
| ajmitch | glad I'm not the only one :) | 00:29 |
| thumper | I'll get someone to talk to you about that shortly | 00:29 |
| ajmitch | ok | 00:29 |
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| thumper | ajmitch: what is that indicator that draws the graphs? | 00:40 |
| ajmitch | system load indicator, let me get the package name | 00:40 |
| ajmitch | indicator-multiload | 00:40 |
| thumper | ajmitch: can I get you to disable it and see if it removes your white visual glitch? | 00:41 |
| ajmitch | thumper: sorry, but I did 'unity --replace' about 15 minutes ago & it killed the white visual glitch | 00:42 |
| mhall119 | where does unity keep it's icon cache? | 00:42 |
| thumper | mhall119: what do you mean? | 00:43 |
| thumper | ajmitch: next time it happens, can I get you to try to disable the indicator? | 00:43 |
| thumper | ajmitch: also, how often does it occur? | 00:43 |
| mhall119 | thumper: I'm trying to use a different icon for alt-tab switching | 00:43 |
| ajmitch | thumper: sure, this is the first time I've seen it happen | 00:43 |
| thumper | ajmitch: and does the visual glitch change? | 00:43 |
| snadge | i see display corruption on unity2d xorg-edgers :P its not bad tho just white line where the tabs are in firefox | 00:43 |
| thumper | mhall119: what do you mean? | 00:43 |
| ajmitch | white visual glitch also appeared on each desktop, but disappeared while changing desktop | 00:44 |
| snadge | ive purged edgers now, just wanted to test the new radeon driver.. and im back on failgrx | 00:44 |
| mhall119 | thumper: so calibre uses a 107x107 icon, but ships with a 512x512 image by a different name | 00:44 |
| mhall119 | I'm trying to get it to use the bigger one | 00:44 |
| ajmitch | clicking on it with xwininfo showed the window behind it, fwiw | 00:44 |
| thumper | mhall119: I think it gets the info from the desktop file | 00:44 |
| snadge | linsux, great for servers, fail for desktops since 1991 :P | 00:45 |
| mhall119 | thumper: right, but it caches it somewhere when it needs to scale it,right? | 00:45 |
| thumper | mhall119: in memory, sure | 00:45 |
| thumper | mhall119: I think you'd need to restart unity if you changed the image | 00:45 |
| * thumper takes away snadge's geek card | 00:45 | |
| snadge | hey ive been using it as a desktop pretty much for that long | 00:46 |
| * thumper hands snadge a pedant card instead | 00:46 | |
| snadge | i expect graphical glitches and graphics driver failures, id be shocked if they didnt exist ;) | 00:47 |
| thumper | a gold one for 20 years service | 00:47 |
| snadge | im thinking of just surrendering and getting a failvidia card, but im saved by extreme laziness and apathy | 00:49 |
| snadge | plus maybe the next catalyst will work properly. *cough* | 00:51 |
| snadge | ive been saying that for the past 2 years, two steps forward, one step back.. imroves, just enough to give you a false sense of hope ;) then a new version of xorg or compiz etc will cause it to fail in a different way.. and evryone will point the finger at everyone else | 00:53 |
| snadge | its a driver problem.. its an xorg problem.. its a compiz problem.. i dont care whos problem it is, just effing fix it already :P | 00:54 |
| jalcine | snadge: lol | 01:06 |
| snadge | if only we could get more people to care about linux on the desktop | 01:07 |
| snadge | its a catch 22, people dont use it because of crap like that AND because applications dev wont write apps for it BECAUSE people dont use it | 01:07 |
| snadge | bugs dont get fixed because not enough people care, which only serves to make the problem worse :/ | 01:10 |
| jalcine | snadge: woah, that's a negative. | 01:16 |
| jalcine | the reason why bugs don't get fixed vary greatly. | 01:16 |
| jalcine | someone could be having a marriage | 01:16 |
| jalcine | or isn't able to solve the problem | 01:16 |
| jalcine | or the people who used to maintain that part of the code is currently giving their kid the birds and the bee's talk. | 01:16 |
| jalcine | not caring, if it does happen, is so small, it's negligible. | 01:17 |
| snadge | well | 01:26 |
| snadge | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/770283 | 01:27 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 770283 in fglrx-installer (Ubuntu) "[fglrx]title bar does not update on non-maximized windows" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 01:27 |
| snadge | thats coming up to 1 year now | 01:28 |
| snadge | which is unacceptable | 01:28 |
| snadge | its a terrible bug which destroys useability, makes it practically unuseable | 01:29 |
| snadge | the fact that only 71 people have marked it as affecting them, is embarassing | 01:31 |
| snadge | should be thousands of people, at least | 01:32 |
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| iheartubuntu | hi all. i have a question about the app launcher. can anyone help real quick? | 03:55 |
| iheartubuntu | on one computer i can see my unread messages on the thunderbird icon, but another computer i cant. both are 11.10... one is 32 bit, the other is 64 bit. | 03:57 |
| mhr3 | bschaefer, ping? | 08:05 |
| angeloc | mhr3: i have a question, can I take advantage of your kindness? | 08:10 |
| mhr3 | angeloc, shoot | 08:25 |
| angeloc | mhr3: i'm intrested in writing the gnome part for bug 950136, i've already done some work | 08:26 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 950136 in unity-2d "multimonitor, launcher: Provide an option to display either a single launcher or a launcher on each display in a multi-monitor environment" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/950136 | 08:26 |
| angeloc | mhr3: it's not in progress, but undecided, what i have to do? ca i continue and assign bug to myself? | 08:27 |
| mhr3 | angeloc, hmm, if it's about changes to control center, try pinging seb128 about it | 08:28 |
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| mhr3 | he should be around in an hour or so | 08:28 |
| angeloc | mhr3: ok! you are awesome! | 08:29 |
| mhr3 | didrocks, or perhaps you know the status there? ^^ | 08:30 |
| didrocks | I'm doing it | 08:31 |
| didrocks | already analyzed it, and know how to deal with it :) | 08:31 |
| didrocks | more complicated than what you can think because, there is 2d, 3d, both or not using the same keys | 08:31 |
| didrocks | some drawing as well | 08:32 |
| didrocks | (and short timeline has to be delivered next Monday) | 08:32 |
| angeloc | didrocks, ok, it was really an interesting bug to solve! | 08:33 |
| didrocks | angeloc: yeah, sorry about it, but it's kind of complex and short time delivery :) | 08:33 |
| angeloc | didrocks, i understand, april is near ... | 08:34 |
| didrocks | angeloc: right :) | 08:34 |
| AlanBell | gord: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/03/14/%23ubuntu-accessibility.html | 08:51 |
| mhr3 | davidcalle, no support for artwork? :/ | 08:53 |
| mhr3 | nothing adding albums to the results? | 08:54 |
| smb | didrocks, It seems the latest update stole my ability to switch apps. The weird things is that in settings->keyboard->shortcuts->navigation->Switch applications it is set to alt-tab, but in /apps/compiz-1/plugins/unityshell/screen0/options/alt_tab_next_window it is disabled... | 08:55 |
| davidcalle | mhr3, only artwork embedded in files. There is this Python I wasn't able to port to get art : http://paste.ubuntu.com/882947/ | 08:56 |
| didrocks | smb: this key is not used for that | 08:56 |
| didrocks | smb: what do you mean by "stole my ability to switch apps?" | 08:56 |
| didrocks | alt-tab doesn't appear? | 08:56 |
| smb | didrocks, That alt-tab does not bring up the application switcher for me anymore | 08:57 |
| didrocks | smb: do you have the HUD set to "alt" | 08:57 |
| didrocks | ? | 08:57 |
| didrocks | or did you change it? | 08:57 |
| davidcalle | mhr3 and albums need tree index to be implemented first, as it needs results from tracks having the same Album field. | 08:57 |
| smb | didrocks, No, I did disable it when it was driving me mental. Maybe you remember | 08:57 |
| didrocks | smb: so you disabled it? | 08:58 |
| didrocks | smb: that's a known issue, you have to set it back to alt for alt-tab to work | 08:58 |
| didrocks | smb: you don't have anymore the "tap" issue, it's fixed in 5.6 | 08:58 |
| * smb wibbles | 08:58 | |
| smb | didrocks, Ok, it works. Is there a bug about that already to subscribe? | 09:00 |
| didrocks | smb: bug # | 09:01 |
| didrocks | grr | 09:01 |
| didrocks | smb: bug #953855 | 09:01 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 953855 in unity (Ubuntu) "Alt-combinations (Alt+Tab, Alt+F2) don't work if "Key to show HUD" is disabled or not set to <Alt>" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/953855 | 09:01 |
| smb | didrocks, Thanks | 09:01 |
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| glosoli | http://youtu.be/ltE_ekc8kE8 video which makes sense for every daily users, and all these Unity Design team people should see it. | 13:22 |
| glosoli | Of how daily user gets his first expierence with Ubuntu | 13:22 |
| kenvandine | mhr3, is there a way to check if a specific ModelIter is in a model before using it? | 13:32 |
| kenvandine | mhr3, or should i just wrap it with a try/catch? | 13:32 |
| didrocks | greyback|lunch: when you have some time, can you please add https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/929506 to 5.8 release target? | 13:46 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 929506 in unity-2d "lenses are loaded on start, should be lazy loaded" [High,Confirmed] | 13:46 |
| mhr3 | kenvandine, not really, you should make sure you dont keep invalid ModelIters around - the only way to check it is by iterating through the whole model and comparing if any of the iters is the one you have | 13:49 |
| didrocks | greyback|lunch: same for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/891648 | 13:49 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 891648 in unity-2d (Ubuntu) "Dash - update Dash keyboard shortcuts so the 'CTRL + TAB' switches between Lenses and 'TAB' by itself moves the focus between categories " [High,Confirmed] | 13:49 |
| kenvandine | mhr3, ok, i think just a try/catch will do then | 13:50 |
| kenvandine | thx | 13:50 |
| mhr3 | kenvandine, an invalid modeliter can cause a crash, try catch is not good enough | 13:51 |
| kenvandine | ugh | 13:52 |
| mhr3 | kenvandine, but you can just connect to row-removed and if you see an iter you saved somewhere, get rid of it | 13:53 |
| kenvandine | mhr3, ok | 13:54 |
| ubuntuuser2344 | hello | 13:55 |
| ubuntuuser2344 | is anyone there | 13:55 |
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| ubuntuuser2344 | I was wondering in what version of ubuntu did they start using unity? | 13:56 |
| ubuntuuser2344 | because i am not a big fan of using betas | 13:57 |
| greyback | didrocks: done & done | 13:57 |
| didrocks | greyback: thanks! | 13:57 |
| ubuntuuser2344 | is antone there | 13:58 |
| ubuntuuser2344 | is anyone there | 13:58 |
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| angeloc | i have this error compiling unity from trunk, i have previously succesfully compiled it, i compiled nux from source also | 14:56 |
| angeloc | error: ‘reset_logging’ is not a member of ‘nux::logging’ | 14:56 |
| angeloc | what's i'm doing wrong? | 14:56 |
| gord | angeloc, sounds like you don't have the latest nux trunk installed | 15:11 |
| gord | angeloc, or unity isn't picking up the latest nux if you do have it installed | 15:11 |
| angeloc | gord: i pulled it right now, make make install | 15:12 |
| angeloc | gord: investigating ... | 15:12 |
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| mhall119 | mhr3: what signal should I listen to if I want to perform a search when a lens is opened, but not search string has been entered? | 15:16 |
| davidcalle | mhall119, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-lens-videos/unity-lens-videos/trunk/revision/50 | 15:17 |
| mhall119 | davidcalle: thanks, I don't see that on the API docs | 15:18 |
| mhr3 | mhall119, you get search_changed for empty searches as well | 15:18 |
| mhall119 | mhr3: ah, ok | 15:19 |
| mhr3 | you shouldn't be really doing that ^^, but depends on your use case | 15:20 |
| mhall119 | mhr3: also, I'm using hyphens in my signal names, but the API show underscores, are they both correct? | 15:20 |
| mhall119 | mhr3: shouldn't be doing what? | 15:21 |
| mhr3 | hyphens are usually more correct, but in most cases both should work | 15:26 |
| mhr3 | some languages require underscores cause hyphen could be minus operator in some contexts :) | 15:26 |
| Andy80 | hi all | 16:02 |
| htorque | sbte: hi! about bug 930291 - this has been fixed in the meantime, do you need to un-assign yourself from it? status → fix released? | 16:07 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 930291 in indicator-application (Ubuntu) "indicator-application-service leaking memory (~10 MiB/h)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/930291 | 16:07 |
| mhall119 | davidcalle: ping | 16:09 |
| davidcalle | mhall119, pong | 16:09 |
| mhall119 | davidcalle: the ARB is asking for any lenses/scopes ready for Oneiric to be submitted now | 16:10 |
| davidcalle | mhall119, Oneiric? | 16:10 |
| mhall119 | with the exception of the adult and piratebay ones | 16:10 |
| mhall119 | davidcalle: yeah, they want to get all the ones made for 11.10/unity 4 into the extras archive for that release before starting on the Precise ones | 16:11 |
| davidcalle | mhall119, ok | 16:11 |
| sbte | htorque, done that | 16:12 |
| sbte | great that it's fixed now | 16:12 |
| davidcalle | mhall119, I'll submit the Photos one tonight or tomorrow. With Flickr + Shotwell. | 16:13 |
| htorque | sbte: yeah, 10mb/h was heavy. :-) | 16:13 |
| mhall119 | davidcalle: awesome, thanks | 16:13 |
| mhr3 | angeloc, if you're still looking for something https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-lens-files/+bug/737143 looks very much like something you worked on | 16:14 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 737143 in unity-2d "Can't open nautilus Bookmarks which connect to server from files place" [High,Confirmed] | 16:14 |
| angeloc | mhr3: great! | 16:14 |
| angeloc | mhr3:wow, looks intresting! | 16:15 |
| MCR | Hi. :) Currently Unity fails to install on Precise because the version unity-common 5.6.0-0ubuntu4 is installed (afaik I have no unity specific PPAs installed), but 0ubuntu3 should be - are the other updated packages coming ? | 16:15 |
| mhr3 | angeloc, maybe you already fixed it actually, could use a check ;) | 16:16 |
| angeloc | mhr3:i read many bugs reports for days, but i've not saw this one! Ok, i'll look if it works with my fixes before starting | 16:17 |
| mhr3 | angeloc, actually, looking at the code it should be fixed already | 16:18 |
| angeloc | mhr3:i'm testing right now, in a few minutes, i'll tell you | 16:19 |
| sbte | htorque, good job on fixing leaks yourself too ;-) | 16:22 |
| htorque | sbte: hehe, that was an easier one that i found when confirming the other fix. pure luck (e.g., i have no idea what's going on in bug 953970). | 16:24 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 953970 in indicator-application (Ubuntu) "Small memory leak" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/953970 | 16:24 |
| htorque | [that's all a scary nightmare for a java guy :P] | 16:25 |
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| angeloc | mhr3: yes, it works, it can be closed | 16:44 |
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| PaoloRotolo | Hi all | 17:36 |
| mhall119 | hi PaoloRotolo | 17:39 |
| PaoloRotolo | hi :) | 17:42 |
| angeloc | mhr3: i'm intrested in bug 955229, due to the familiarity with codebase | 18:22 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 955229 in unity-lens-files "Locate scope doesn't respect privacy settings" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/955229 | 18:22 |
| angeloc | mhr3: have you some hint? | 18:22 |
| angeloc | mhr3:ok, i see it's assigned to you | 18:23 |
| angeloc | mhr3: i can see it's assigned to you | 18:23 |
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| mhall119 | davidcalle: the ARB is reviewing mark tully's music scopes, ifyou want to submit your grooveshark scope now too | 19:00 |
| davidcalle | mhall119, yay for Mark's music scopes! :) | 19:01 |
| davidcalle | mhall119, ok for Grooveshark too. | 19:01 |
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| mhall119 | kenvandine: ping | 19:03 |
| kenvandine | mhall119, pong | 19:04 |
| mhall119 | kenvandine: do you know who was working on the gwibber lens? | 19:05 |
| kenvandine | me | 19:05 |
| mhall119 | what is it's current state? Can it be submitted to the ARB? | 19:05 |
| kenvandine | it is in main already | 19:05 |
| mhall119 | oh, it is? | 19:05 |
| kenvandine | yup | 19:06 |
| kenvandine | it is built from gwibber source | 19:06 |
| mhall119 | oh, ok | 19:06 |
| mhall119 | kenvandine: I would like to see that replaces with either a generic "Microblog" lens or even more generic "Messages" lens, with a gwibber scope, what are your thoughts on doing that? | 19:07 |
| * mhall119 is speaking 12.10 timeframe | 19:07 | |
| kenvandine | i plan to split it into separate scope and lens | 19:08 |
| kenvandine | so perhaps if there is a People lens, it could search gwibber as well, that kind of thing | 19:08 |
| mhall119 | kenvandine: cool, I'll be happy to help you with that when the time comes | 19:08 |
| kenvandine | mhall119, definately open to ideas | 19:09 |
| kenvandine | awesome! | 19:09 |
| * kenvandine needs plenty of help! | 19:09 | |
| mhall119 | yeah, there's a Contacts lens in the works already, so we could make a scope for that | 19:09 |
| kenvandine | yeah, i think that is a perfect fit | 19:09 |
| mhall119 | kenvandine: mind you, I don't now vala, so I may be limited to non-code help :) | 19:09 |
| kenvandine | it is very simple vala :) | 19:10 |
| davidcalle | mhall119, never trust this sentence :P | 19:10 |
| mhall119 | lol | 19:11 |
| kenvandine | davidcalle, shhh... don't scare him away | 19:11 |
| kenvandine | :) | 19:11 |
| * mhall119 is never afraid of code | 19:11 | |
| davidcalle | ;) | 19:11 |
| mhall119 | because I spent years writing Perl | 19:11 |
| kenvandine | perl is scary | 19:12 |
| * mhall119 wonders what the state of Perl's gobject and dbus support is.... | 19:12 | |
| mhall119 | I need to learn vala, maybe I'll kidnap kenvandine one night at UDS | 19:13 |
| kenvandine | that would be fun | 19:14 |
| mhall119 | then I can hack on gwibber again, like the good-old days | 19:14 |
| kenvandine | woot | 19:14 |
| mhall119 | kenvandine: do we still have gwibber-enabled GTK widgets for embedding in applications? | 19:14 |
| kenvandine | mhall119, yes | 19:15 |
| mhall119 | do we have any for Qt? | 19:15 |
| kenvandine | nope | 19:15 |
| kenvandine | it would be nice | 19:15 |
| mhall119 | how hard would it be? | 19:15 |
| kenvandine | no idea | 19:16 |
| mhall119 | maybe I'll kidnap a Qt developer too | 19:16 |
| kenvandine | if you could get generated gobject bindings to Qt | 19:16 |
| kenvandine | it should be trivial | 19:16 |
| kenvandine | but i think the smoke stuff to do that is too experimental | 19:16 |
| mhall119 | gobject bindings to Qt objects? | 19:16 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 19:17 |
| kenvandine | so it could just bind to libgwibber | 19:17 |
| kenvandine | otherwise it would be reimplementing libgwibber in Qt | 19:17 |
| mhall119 | let me try and understand this, libgwibber exports GObjects, or libgwibber imports GObjects? | 19:18 |
| kklimonda | damn, alt tab and workspace swithching is really bugged :/ | 19:36 |
| kklimonda | hmm, remapping "move window to the workspace X" helped a bit | 19:38 |
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| vit_o | hi, i have a problem with unity, can someone help me? | 23:40 |
| Daekdroom | You should ask your question and stick around for some minutes to see whether someone can answer | 23:44 |
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