/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/03/14/#ubuntu-us-pa.txt

SamuraiAlbagood bacon to all!00:23
EvilResistancebleh00:23
SamuraiAlbalol01:01
waltmanok, why has dropbox suddenly starting taking 100% of my cpu?01:14
waltmanand now it stopped. Weird.01:19
cythesSo my total boot time not including the time it takes me to log in is 12 seconds from GRUB to desktop.01:20
cythesI would give it 20 seconds total01:20
SamuraiAlbanice01:22
InHisNameadom: what underpants ?01:29
cythesI was thinking about seeing with Google's Summer of Code thing was all about it..01:34
jthanlamalex: don't try to steal from me.02:04
jthan:-p02:04
cythesI am just messing with themes right now.02:58
cythesThat looks good.03:00
cythesAlright I am done setting themes this one just works. xD03:05
cythesI AM STICKING TO THIS ONE!!03:08
cythesIts all green and yellow!!03:08
cythesWell I'm 21 now.04:01
pleia2happy birthday04:03
cythesthanks pleia2 :)04:04
cythesI was going to do GSOC this year but I think I will pass04:27
pleia2why?04:50
cythesWell I dont think I have the knowledge required just yet.04:52
pleia2aw04:53
pleia2well it's a great program, you should some time :)04:53
cythesYeah well, some time. not like google is going anywhere.04:53
cythesPlus that Code is not really in my list of direct things to learn now. xD04:54
cythesStill want to but I want to learn Systems Administration first lol04:54
cythesLess they have a program for that in there some place.04:54
JonathanDMorning.09:45
rmg51morning JonathanD09:48
JonathanDHye rmg5109:53
rmg51o/10:03
JonathanDWhats up?10:40
rmg51nothing new11:21
rmg51just time for me to go to work11:22
rmg51and sign off for now11:22
aurigusmorning all12:36
jedijfmorning12:38
jedijfbright morning12:38
InHisNamenice morning,  nicer afternoon soon13:09
JonathanDMorning.13:12
adomello mates14:21
ChinnoDoghi14:37
adomhey who was telling me that it might be possible to recover a drive that gives "can't read superblock" error? jedijf EvilResistance ?14:42
adomjust wanted to note, the drive is an ntfs drive, and i just read that the ext2/3 filesystems store superblock at different backup location so its recoverable...is ntfs the same way? or am i SOL because i was dumb and formatted for Windows before I started using it as network storage?14:43
adomdumpe2fs: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/sdc1 ... Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock.14:45
jedijfadom: sorry, presumed a real filesystem; that'll learn ya for using inferior fs14:51
adom:(14:51
jedijftry google though, testdisk, something may work14:52
jedijftestdisk is amazing butt saver14:52
adomis testdisk linux?14:53
adomguess so, its in repos14:53
jedijfhttp://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/Advanced_NTFS_Boot_and_MFT_Repair14:54
adomi have a feeling if i go home, unplug it from my server, plug it into windows, itll repair nicely. just too lazy.14:54
jedijfbtw, when i said google, i meant ddg14:54
adomddg?14:54
jedijfduck duck go14:54
adomoh. i was just going to use askjeeves14:54
adomand dogpile14:54
jedijfthat's se on this box. still getting used to it14:54
adomand lycos14:54
adomi dont share most peoples' annoyance of google. i like that they keep track of what i do. i have nothing to hide, and catering to my past helps me find previous answers faster.14:55
* jedijf nods14:56
jedijfbut i want to see what the ddg hoopla is all about14:56
* jedijf is an open book14:56
* adom shrugnods.14:58
* adom invents the word "shrugnod".14:58
jedijfshrods14:58
adom<314:58
adomlooking into testdisk now14:58
adomi read that link, but it doesnt give any syntax for use14:59
adomlooking at manpage now14:59
auriguswhy man page? why not woman page?14:59
adomsorry15:00
adomim looking at the womanual page now.15:00
auriguswhy you gotta leave out transgender like that15:00
adomjedijf: do you have experience with using testdisk? should my first move be /debug, /log, /dump, and/or /list the device?15:00
adomsorry15:01
adomim looking at the documentation now15:01
adomoh crap15:01
adomim looking at the docuwomentation now15:01
jedijfadom: every time i have to use it, i go thru what you are right now.  Welcome to the team!15:01
adomhaha15:01
adomthx for nothin :/15:02
* adom keeps reading.15:02
aurigusto be pc you should use: docuwo/man/transgendertation15:02
aurigusi mean, lets be realistic here15:02
jedijfi will tell you this, i never think it will work, and it *does* so just let that hope carry you forward15:02
aurigusive never used testdisk before15:02
aurigusgood to have another tool in the arsenal15:02
adom*fingers crossed*15:02
jedijfaurigus: that may be a good sign15:02
jedijfahhh, i thought you never had the /need/ for a testdisk, so yeah, add it to the batbelt15:03
adomoh sh*t, testdisk is command-line gui (ncurses?)15:04
adomno flags necessary, just gives menus via arrow keys15:05
adomok, currently "Analyzing" the drive. testdisk seems pretty userfriendly. fire it up, choose logfile settings, choose media (it listed the three physical drive i had in the machine, sda, sdb, & sdc), choose action (Analyze seems like first move, but theres also "Tools" and other options), hit enter to start "Quick search"15:09
adomalso, just checked a tail of my auth.log and looks like i havent been attacked since last month! yay for script kiddies giving up!15:10
* adom doublechecks his mask...15:11
adom<.<  >.>15:11
MutantTurkeyeverybody lets rock..15:18
MutantTurkeydancing to the jailhouse rock.15:19
MutantTurkeyI have a friends P4, should I put xfce + debian?15:19
jedijffor you or ultimately going back to them?15:20
jedijfeither way, i think you should grab alternate install ubuntu cd and do cli only install and then go from there. just for the experience (ubuntu experience)15:22
jedijfas opposed to the ubiquity given experience15:22
adomjedijf: i still want to do that cli install of ubuntu you (or someone else?) was telling me about.15:27
adomi *was* going to go with crunchbang, but id like to try cli and install up from there15:27
adomjust not sure if i should stay minimal with a tiling window manager or try some xfce or something15:27
adomill prob go with Awesome3 like i want to15:28
MutantTurkeyawesome15:31
MutantTurkeyaffpt15:31
MutantTurkeywesome isn't very minimal15:31
MutantTurkeyI suggest starting very minimally with dwm and the working your way up15:31
passstabhi15:43
MutantTurkeyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hB3eCv_FOk15:43
passstabi booted into recovery15:43
passstaband selected fsck15:44
passstabnow it dosn't look like it's doing anything15:44
passstab:(15:44
passstabit checked one partition15:45
passstabshould i just hit power?15:48
cythesWhoot Whoot!15:59
cythesMan after using freaking irssi last night I am kinda missing it..... O.o16:04
cythesThen again I am on windowzer.16:04
MutantTurkeyhey guys17:16
MutantTurkeyI have a duped out pentium 4.17:16
MutantTurkeylike the highest end p4 overclocked with HT and a custom build17:17
MutantTurkeythe problem is I need to fix it, well I don't know what distro to put on it17:17
MutantTurkeylinux mint?17:17
MutantTurkey(it's not for me btw)17:17
MutantTurkeybecause I won't be able to maintain ti17:17
jedijfMutantTurkey: throw xubu on it17:29
MutantTurkeyxubu is rather bloated17:30
MutantTurkeynot because of xfce but a lot of stuff17:30
MutantTurkeyI don't want to make him upgrade every year either :/17:30
MutantTurkeydebian + xfce17:30
MutantTurkeyseems a good path17:30
pleia2there are 2 reasons why debian stable + Xfce is faster: 1) xubuntu does a lot more stuff under the hood to make sure things automatically happen (networking, automounting, etc) 2. the version of xfce in debian is very old, 4.6 (4.8 is used by Xubuntu, 4.10 should come out in April or so)17:34
pleia2so if you don't care about automaticness of things or using a very old version of Xfce, you should be good with Debian + Xfce17:34
pleia2you might also want to check out Lubuntu, it still does the nice under the hood stuff but LXDE is a lighter desktop environment than Xfce17:37
MutantTurkeyouch I don't want 4.617:37
MutantTurkeyI'll use the testing branch17:37
MutantTurkeybut debian has long life support. it's an intel box so support shouldn't be an issue.17:38
pleia2yeah, Debian is supported for 3 years as stable, which is only matched by the Ubuntu LTS releases17:39
pleia2Ubuntu and Kubuntu will have 5 year support though17:39
pleia2as of 12.04 LTS17:39
pleia2(Xubuntu is a 3 year LTS)17:39
MutantTurkeylxde, haven't tried that in some time. last time it was just like a panel + openbox17:40
MutantTurkeyand pcmanfm.17:40
pleia2er, it sounds like more than that and you call it "bloated"17:40
pleia2so I'm not sure what you're actually looking for17:41
MutantTurkeyI'll stick with xfce :-)17:41
MutantTurkeyI know it, it trust it.17:41
pleia2you won't find an option that has all shine and features, but is fast and lightweight, there is a tradeoff17:41
MutantTurkeyI am really suprised that 4.10 is coming out soon. the distance between 4.6 and 4.8 was like 2+ years.17:41
passstabi'd think they'd go to 5.017:42
pleia223 months, this time it's 17 months17:42
pleia2(assuming they do release on time :))17:42
pleia2the project has gotten more attention since Gnome3 and Unity stuff started happening, more developers makes things happen faster :)17:43
MutantTurkeypassstab: there was a large entry on why they did it18:12
MutantTurkeyyes I would say alternative desktops are starting to shine.18:12
adomso...testdisk... 01% done so far...19:08
adomO.o19:08
adom1TB drive19:08
passstabyes this http://blog.xfce.org/2012/01/xfce-4010/19:43
passstabthanks19:43
passstabwish date wher more popular19:44
ChinnoDogI need a nap20:52
MutantTurkeymeh usb booting never works.21:33
InHisNameI just have seen several news items mentioning ddg.  They mentioned that its a new company started by 2 guys in Philly.  #employees: 221:47
InHisNamesince this unified security thingy from google, they have seen a big jump in their traffic.21:48
* ssweeny has been using ddg for a while now22:08
* InHisName have been using ddg since jedijf mentioned it a while ago22:39
jedijfslow news week, we're in the uwn22:46
jedijfthanks pleia222:46
pleia2bkerensa: :)22:47
pleia2err22:47
pleia2jedijf: :)22:47
pleia2this is what I get for starting a conversation in another channel22:47
jedijfhaha22:47
jedijfi'm gonna recruit reporters/scrapers for uwn this sat at pacs22:48
jedijfi fell badly that i don't have time to help22:48
jedijfi do have time to ask others to help, so i shall22:49
jedijfs/fell/feel22:49
pleia2thank you :)22:50

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