[00:23] <SamuraiAlba> good bacon to all!
[00:23] <EvilResistance> bleh
[01:01] <SamuraiAlba> lol
[01:14] <waltman> ok, why has dropbox suddenly starting taking 100% of my cpu?
[01:19] <waltman> and now it stopped. Weird.
[01:20] <cythes> So my total boot time not including the time it takes me to log in is 12 seconds from GRUB to desktop.
[01:20] <cythes> I would give it 20 seconds total
[01:22] <SamuraiAlba> nice
[01:29] <InHisName> adom: what underpants ?
[01:34] <cythes> I was thinking about seeing with Google's Summer of Code thing was all about it..
[02:04] <jthan> lamalex: don't try to steal from me.
[02:04] <jthan> :-p
[02:58] <cythes> I am just messing with themes right now.
[03:00] <cythes> That looks good.
[03:05] <cythes> Alright I am done setting themes this one just works. xD
[03:08] <cythes> I AM STICKING TO THIS ONE!!
[03:08] <cythes> Its all green and yellow!!
[04:01] <cythes> Well I'm 21 now.
[04:03] <pleia2> happy birthday
[04:04] <cythes> thanks pleia2 :)
[04:27] <cythes> I was going to do GSOC this year but I think I will pass
[04:50] <pleia2> why?
[04:52] <cythes> Well I dont think I have the knowledge required just yet.
[04:53] <pleia2> aw
[04:53] <pleia2> well it's a great program, you should some time :)
[04:53] <cythes> Yeah well, some time. not like google is going anywhere.
[04:54] <cythes> Plus that Code is not really in my list of direct things to learn now. xD
[04:54] <cythes> Still want to but I want to learn Systems Administration first lol
[04:54] <cythes> Less they have a program for that in there some place.
[09:45] <JonathanD> Morning.
[09:48] <rmg51> morning JonathanD
[09:53] <JonathanD> Hye rmg51
[10:03] <rmg51> o/
[10:40] <JonathanD> Whats up?
[11:21] <rmg51> nothing new
[11:22] <rmg51> just time for me to go to work
[11:22] <rmg51> and sign off for now
[12:36] <aurigus> morning all
[12:38] <jedijf> morning
[12:38] <jedijf> bright morning
[13:09] <InHisName> nice morning,  nicer afternoon soon
[13:12] <JonathanD> Morning.
[14:21] <adom> ello mates
[14:37] <ChinnoDog> hi
[14:42] <adom> hey who was telling me that it might be possible to recover a drive that gives "can't read superblock" error? jedijf EvilResistance ?
[14:43] <adom> just wanted to note, the drive is an ntfs drive, and i just read that the ext2/3 filesystems store superblock at different backup location so its recoverable...is ntfs the same way? or am i SOL because i was dumb and formatted for Windows before I started using it as network storage?
[14:45] <adom> dumpe2fs: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/sdc1 ... Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock.
[14:51] <jedijf> adom: sorry, presumed a real filesystem; that'll learn ya for using inferior fs
[14:51] <adom> :(
[14:52] <jedijf> try google though, testdisk, something may work
[14:52] <jedijf> testdisk is amazing butt saver
[14:53] <adom> is testdisk linux?
[14:53] <adom> guess so, its in repos
[14:54] <jedijf> http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/Advanced_NTFS_Boot_and_MFT_Repair
[14:54] <adom> i have a feeling if i go home, unplug it from my server, plug it into windows, itll repair nicely. just too lazy.
[14:54] <jedijf> btw, when i said google, i meant ddg
[14:54] <adom> ddg?
[14:54] <jedijf> duck duck go
[14:54] <adom> oh. i was just going to use askjeeves
[14:54] <adom> and dogpile
[14:54] <jedijf> that's se on this box. still getting used to it
[14:54] <adom> and lycos
[14:55] <adom> i dont share most peoples' annoyance of google. i like that they keep track of what i do. i have nothing to hide, and catering to my past helps me find previous answers faster.
[14:56]  * jedijf nods
[14:56] <jedijf> but i want to see what the ddg hoopla is all about
[14:56]  * jedijf is an open book
[14:58]  * adom shrugnods.
[14:58]  * adom invents the word "shrugnod".
[14:58] <jedijf> shrods
[14:58] <adom> <3
[14:58] <adom> looking into testdisk now
[14:59] <adom> i read that link, but it doesnt give any syntax for use
[14:59] <adom> looking at manpage now
[14:59] <aurigus> why man page? why not woman page?
[15:00] <adom> sorry
[15:00] <adom> im looking at the womanual page now.
[15:00] <aurigus> why you gotta leave out transgender like that
[15:00] <adom> jedijf: do you have experience with using testdisk? should my first move be /debug, /log, /dump, and/or /list the device?
[15:01] <adom> sorry
[15:01] <adom> im looking at the documentation now
[15:01] <adom> oh crap
[15:01] <adom> im looking at the docuwomentation now
[15:01] <jedijf> adom: every time i have to use it, i go thru what you are right now.  Welcome to the team!
[15:01] <adom> haha
[15:02] <adom> thx for nothin :/
[15:02]  * adom keeps reading.
[15:02] <aurigus> to be pc you should use: docuwo/man/transgendertation
[15:02] <aurigus> i mean, lets be realistic here
[15:02] <jedijf> i will tell you this, i never think it will work, and it *does* so just let that hope carry you forward
[15:02] <aurigus> ive never used testdisk before
[15:02] <aurigus> good to have another tool in the arsenal
[15:02] <adom> *fingers crossed*
[15:02] <jedijf> aurigus: that may be a good sign
[15:03] <jedijf> ahhh, i thought you never had the /need/ for a testdisk, so yeah, add it to the batbelt
[15:04] <adom> oh sh*t, testdisk is command-line gui (ncurses?)
[15:05] <adom> no flags necessary, just gives menus via arrow keys
[15:09] <adom> ok, currently "Analyzing" the drive. testdisk seems pretty userfriendly. fire it up, choose logfile settings, choose media (it listed the three physical drive i had in the machine, sda, sdb, & sdc), choose action (Analyze seems like first move, but theres also "Tools" and other options), hit enter to start "Quick search"
[15:10] <adom> also, just checked a tail of my auth.log and looks like i havent been attacked since last month! yay for script kiddies giving up!
[15:11]  * adom doublechecks his mask...
[15:11] <adom> <.<  >.>
[15:18] <MutantTurkey> everybody lets rock..
[15:19] <MutantTurkey> dancing to the jailhouse rock.
[15:19] <MutantTurkey> I have a friends P4, should I put xfce + debian?
[15:20] <jedijf> for you or ultimately going back to them?
[15:22] <jedijf> either way, i think you should grab alternate install ubuntu cd and do cli only install and then go from there. just for the experience (ubuntu experience)
[15:22] <jedijf> as opposed to the ubiquity given experience
[15:27] <adom> jedijf: i still want to do that cli install of ubuntu you (or someone else?) was telling me about.
[15:27] <adom> i *was* going to go with crunchbang, but id like to try cli and install up from there
[15:27] <adom> just not sure if i should stay minimal with a tiling window manager or try some xfce or something
[15:28] <adom> ill prob go with Awesome3 like i want to
[15:31] <MutantTurkey> awesome
[15:31] <MutantTurkey> affpt
[15:31] <MutantTurkey> wesome isn't very minimal
[15:31] <MutantTurkey> I suggest starting very minimally with dwm and the working your way up
[15:43] <passstab> hi
[15:43] <MutantTurkey> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hB3eCv_FOk
[15:43] <passstab> i booted into recovery
[15:44] <passstab> and selected fsck
[15:44] <passstab> now it dosn't look like it's doing anything
[15:44] <passstab> :(
[15:45] <passstab> it checked one partition
[15:48] <passstab> should i just hit power?
[15:59] <cythes> Whoot Whoot!
[16:04] <cythes> Man after using freaking irssi last night I am kinda missing it..... O.o
[16:04] <cythes> Then again I am on windowzer.
[17:16] <MutantTurkey> hey guys
[17:16] <MutantTurkey> I have a duped out pentium 4.
[17:17] <MutantTurkey> like the highest end p4 overclocked with HT and a custom build
[17:17] <MutantTurkey> the problem is I need to fix it, well I don't know what distro to put on it
[17:17] <MutantTurkey> linux mint?
[17:17] <MutantTurkey> (it's not for me btw)
[17:17] <MutantTurkey> because I won't be able to maintain ti
[17:29] <jedijf> MutantTurkey: throw xubu on it
[17:30] <MutantTurkey> xubu is rather bloated
[17:30] <MutantTurkey> not because of xfce but a lot of stuff
[17:30] <MutantTurkey> I don't want to make him upgrade every year either :/
[17:30] <MutantTurkey> debian + xfce
[17:30] <MutantTurkey> seems a good path
[17:34] <pleia2> there are 2 reasons why debian stable + Xfce is faster: 1) xubuntu does a lot more stuff under the hood to make sure things automatically happen (networking, automounting, etc) 2. the version of xfce in debian is very old, 4.6 (4.8 is used by Xubuntu, 4.10 should come out in April or so)
[17:34] <pleia2> so if you don't care about automaticness of things or using a very old version of Xfce, you should be good with Debian + Xfce
[17:37] <pleia2> you might also want to check out Lubuntu, it still does the nice under the hood stuff but LXDE is a lighter desktop environment than Xfce
[17:37] <MutantTurkey> ouch I don't want 4.6
[17:37] <MutantTurkey> I'll use the testing branch
[17:38] <MutantTurkey> but debian has long life support. it's an intel box so support shouldn't be an issue.
[17:39] <pleia2> yeah, Debian is supported for 3 years as stable, which is only matched by the Ubuntu LTS releases
[17:39] <pleia2> Ubuntu and Kubuntu will have 5 year support though
[17:39] <pleia2> as of 12.04 LTS
[17:39] <pleia2> (Xubuntu is a 3 year LTS)
[17:40] <MutantTurkey> lxde, haven't tried that in some time. last time it was just like a panel + openbox
[17:40] <MutantTurkey> and pcmanfm.
[17:40] <pleia2> er, it sounds like more than that and you call it "bloated"
[17:41] <pleia2> so I'm not sure what you're actually looking for
[17:41] <MutantTurkey> I'll stick with xfce :-)
[17:41] <MutantTurkey> I know it, it trust it.
[17:41] <pleia2> you won't find an option that has all shine and features, but is fast and lightweight, there is a tradeoff
[17:41] <MutantTurkey> I am really suprised that 4.10 is coming out soon. the distance between 4.6 and 4.8 was like 2+ years.
[17:42] <passstab> i'd think they'd go to 5.0
[17:42] <pleia2> 23 months, this time it's 17 months
[17:42] <pleia2> (assuming they do release on time :))
[17:43] <pleia2> the project has gotten more attention since Gnome3 and Unity stuff started happening, more developers makes things happen faster :)
[18:12] <MutantTurkey> passstab: there was a large entry on why they did it
[18:12] <MutantTurkey> yes I would say alternative desktops are starting to shine.
[19:08] <adom> so...testdisk... 01% done so far...
[19:08] <adom> O.o
[19:08] <adom> 1TB drive
[19:43] <passstab> yes this http://blog.xfce.org/2012/01/xfce-4010/
[19:43] <passstab> thanks
[19:44] <passstab> wish date wher more popular
[20:52] <ChinnoDog> I need a nap
[21:33] <MutantTurkey> meh usb booting never works.
[21:47] <InHisName> I just have seen several news items mentioning ddg.  They mentioned that its a new company started by 2 guys in Philly.  #employees: 2
[21:48] <InHisName> since this unified security thingy from google, they have seen a big jump in their traffic.
[22:08]  * ssweeny has been using ddg for a while now
[22:39]  * InHisName have been using ddg since jedijf mentioned it a while ago
[22:46] <jedijf> slow news week, we're in the uwn
[22:46] <jedijf> thanks pleia2
[22:47] <pleia2> bkerensa: :)
[22:47] <pleia2> err
[22:47] <pleia2> jedijf: :)
[22:47] <pleia2> this is what I get for starting a conversation in another channel
[22:47] <jedijf> haha
[22:48] <jedijf> i'm gonna recruit reporters/scrapers for uwn this sat at pacs
[22:48] <jedijf> i fell badly that i don't have time to help
[22:49] <jedijf> i do have time to ask others to help, so i shall
[22:49] <jedijf> s/fell/feel
[22:50] <pleia2> thank you :)