[00:11] <aicasn> knome, draconicus:  ping
[00:13] <aicasn> for whomever....i figured out what borked my system yesterday. the updates that were being applied crash part-way through, forced a halt and reboot, and left the system unusable
[00:14] <aicasn> if anyone else has that problem, boot off a live cd (or whatever), fsck your partitions, mount your drive tree under /mnt, chroot, and do updates under cli with "apt-get update"
[00:14] <aicasn> once the updates went through i was good-to-go
[00:20] <f1assistance1> Any idea why I can't install LibreOffice? Tried several times using the Ubuntu Software Center but it displays a message: Failed to download package files, check your Internet connection? :-(
[00:41] <Louis11> what signal does a restart send?
[04:10] <corvus> Any idea what would cause desktop icons to appear slowly after closing a program?
[04:11] <holstein> low memory... bad graphics driver.. slow hard drive... old machine
[04:12] <corvus> It is an older P4 - 2.6 ghz, 1 gb ram, 64 mb NVidia agp card, but...
[04:12] <corvus> This is the second time I've installed Xubuntu on the same machine. Didn't have that problem before.
[04:12] <holstein> my $$ is on the nvidia driver..
[04:12] <corvus> Everything else seems responsive.
[04:12] <corvus> Think I should go with Nouveau?
[04:13] <holstein> depends on the hardware
[04:13] <corvus> Isn't Nouveau supposed to perform better on older cards?
[04:14] <holstein> not sure.. i usually just see for myself
[04:16] <corvus> Figured it out...I think. I had disabled the compositor. Just enabled it and it seems to have done the trick.
[04:16] <corvus> I hope.
[04:19] <BlakJak> ok... found an annoyance with 12.04b1 ... raft of dependency issues trying to install google earth...
[04:19] <BlakJak> ia32-libs depending on ia32-libs-multiarch depending on a metric buttload of other stuff which is held back or somesuch
[04:36] <beata1> I'm looking for why different sets of icons in my panel are different sizes. Icons directly in the panel (launchers, menu, places) are one size, icons in the window buttons applet are a different size, &c notification area and indicator. What I've been able to find so far by keyword search has been about themes and blurred icons.
[04:49] <holstein> beata1: what would you like to have happen?
[04:50] <holstein> i mean, icons are different sizes... maybe try working on applying an theme, or changing the size
[07:14] <JM> Can anyone answer me some questions related to RAID5 installations?
[09:44] <mrdoctorwho> Hello. I have a problem. When i login xubuntu return me to login screen. What should i do?
[09:47] <mrdoctorwho> I can login from tty* (not tty7) by type command "startxfce4", but it's not normally, because i have no permission for mount devices in thunar and add new network connection by networkmanager
[09:56] <mrdoctorwho> i can login in tty* (not tty7) and start xfce manually*
[10:04] <well_laid_lawn> mrdoctorwho: if you make a file called ~/.xinitrc you can have stuff in there to have mounting work when you startx
[10:05] <mrdoctorwho> well_laid_lawn: i need normal login
[10:06] <well_laid_lawn> mrdoctorwho: anything in .xsession-errors ?
[10:07] <mrdoctorwho> well_laid_lawn: it does not exists in ~
[10:07] <well_laid_lawn> k
[10:09] <well_laid_lawn> mrdoctorwho: you can check the lightdm.log in /var/log
[10:11] <mrdoctorwho> well_laid_lawn: it's null
[10:14] <well_laid_lawn> what does null mean? - is it empty or doesn't exist?
[10:14] <well_laid_lawn> !tab
[10:15] <mrdoctorwho> well_laid_lawn: empty
[10:16] <mrdoctorwho> and in Xorg.0.log no errors
[10:20] <well_laid_lawn> I dunno then, I just startx. ask again in a bit when some more ppl wake up :)
[11:05] <mrdoctorwho> i fix it.
[11:14] <encrypt_> hi, i've installed jupiter on xubuntu and am having issues when changing the resolution to 1024x768
[11:58] <kvarley> I went to Menu>Accessories>Terminal Emulator and it asked me for the default application but listed none so I typed the command for xfce4-terminal but I mis-spelt it and now I get an error everytime I try and launch it. How can I reset or set a new default application for the terminal shortcut in the menu?
[12:04] <well_laid_lawn> kvarley: afaik there'll be a desktop file for it in /usr/share/applications
[12:07] <kvarley> well_laid_lawn: It does Exec=exo-open --TerminalEmulator
[12:08] <well_laid_lawn> check exo-preferred-applications then - you run that from a terminal
[12:08] <kvarley> well_laid_lawn: FIxed it
[12:09] <well_laid_lawn> well done
[12:09] <kvarley> well_laid_lawn: Went to Menu>Settings>Settings Manager>Preferred Applications then on the Utilities tab I set it back to xfce4-terminal
[12:09] <kvarley> well_laid_lawn: ty
[12:34] <n2diy> I helping a friend, he lost his panel, when he types "xorg-panel" it returns "command not found"? Help.
[12:39] <bzrk> n2diy: apt-get install xfce4-panel
[12:40] <n2diy> bzrk, ok, it's installed, just needs to be restarted, so xfce4-panel should do the trick, thanks.
[12:41] <well_laid_lawn> !panel | for future reference
[12:42] <n2diy> well_laid_lawn, he's a newbie, I'm not sure he's ready for that, thanks.
[12:43] <well_laid_lawn> not ready for hitting Alt+F2 ?
[12:43] <well_laid_lawn> ;)
[12:44] <n2diy> and then alt-f7 to get back to X
[12:44] <well_laid_lawn> alt+f2 is the run dialog
[12:44] <well_laid_lawn> ctrl+alt+f2 is the tty
[12:45] <well_laid_lawn> then alt+f7 to get back
[12:50] <Sysi> rm -rf ~/.cache/sessions and unchecking save session in logout window to get panel on next login
[13:25] <craigbass1976> I can't log in.  I click a name, type a password, see a bit of a black screen, and then get bounced back into the login.  Another user can log in fine.
[13:25] <TheSheep> craigbass1976: check your .xsessionerrors in your home
[13:26] <craigbass1976> Thanks.  Rot owned it for some reason.
[13:27] <craigbass1976> root
[13:49] <kvarley> How can I enable Ctrl + F4 to close tabs in XUbuntu?
[14:31] <jadoe> kvarley: if you find out, please tell me
[15:52] <diarmuid> Is there any word processor for XUbuntu that will open in MS word as I need to do some college assignments at home but be able to print them and college which uses MS Word 2007?
[15:53] <holstein> diarmuid: i would try openoffice
[15:53] <holstein> libreoffice actually
[15:54] <holstein> its in the repos... you can install it however you install software...
[15:54] <holstein> software center.. synaptic, the terminal
[15:54] <Sysi> abiword by default should work, just use .doc
[15:54] <Sysi> installed by default I mean
[15:55] <diarmuid> Okay well I will give it a try and see if they are compatible for just text no formatting other than bolding and font size, maybe images. Thanks for the help
[15:55] <Sysi> if you need exact formatting, get MS office or a printer, though it should work okay
[15:56] <diarmuid> Does MS office work on Xubuntu??
[15:57] <Sysi> not easily if at all, but most printers do I think :P
[15:57] <holstein> theres nothing ubuntu/linux does to prevent microsoft from creating a version for linux
[15:58] <holstein> http://www.codeweavers.com/ works
[16:00] <Sysi> but see if abiword or libreoffice fills your need, LO even supports .docx
[16:00] <holstein> yeah... maybe even google docs if you arent opposed to that
[16:03] <diarmuid> thanks
[16:40] <p0six> hi!
[16:41] <p0six> in the first live boot my function keys worked
[16:41] <p0six> but on the later ones they aren't working anymore
[16:41] <p0six> :]
[16:42] <p0six> I mean the fn key
[16:42] <p0six> I could increase/decrease the brightness sound etc
[16:42] <p0six> but it ins't working after the first boot
[16:43] <holstein> i would want to try some other known good live CD and confirm its not the keyboard/hardware
[16:43] <p0six> I only have one xubuntu iso burned into my usb
[16:43] <p0six> yes the fn keys are working fine in windows
[16:44] <p0six> they worked the first time
[16:45] <p0six> but after a reboot they aren't anymore
[16:45] <p0six> I do have a persistent space setup
[16:45] <p0six> think some settings sticked in and disabled them?
[16:50] <p0six> :]
[16:57] <p0six> hello again!
[16:57] <p0six> so should I rewrite the iso to usb?
[17:06] <recon_lap> p0six: are you booting from the usb all the time?
[17:06] <p0six> yes
[17:09] <recon_lap> p0six: probably best to try fix the problem then as it likely to come back
[17:10] <recon_lap> p0six: this might be helpfull http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=903190
[17:23] <n2diy> I had the option to encrypt /home home during install, and now i wish i did, is there a way to do it now?
[17:23] <holstein> n2diy: check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedHome
[17:35] <n2diy> holstein, ok, thanks.
[17:55] <cybro> Does anyone uses deluge ?
[17:55] <Unit193> Don't ask to about, just ask and wait for someone to respond (can take a bit)
[17:57] <p0six> hello again!
[17:57] <p0six> sorry for that,had a power outage
[17:57] <p0six> :(
[17:57] <recon_lap> though working conditions p0six
[17:57] <recon_lap> tough !!
[17:58] <p0six> what?
[17:58] <p0six> I didn't understand what you mean :]
[17:59] <recon_lap> no power, tough/hard to work with computer , just spelled tough wrong first time
[17:59] <p0six> oh
[17:59] <p0six> :]
[18:00] <p0six> is there some nice way other than vm to install xubuntu into my system without actually hurting me windows?
[18:00] <baizon> yes, install it side by side
[18:00] <baizon> on a seperate partition
[18:01] <p0six> erm no
[18:01] <p0six> I am not talking about duel boot
[18:01] <holstein> theres VM, wubi and dualboot p0six
[18:02] <holstein> wubi is not all that great, but try it if you like
[18:02] <p0six> wubi from xubuntu iso isn't helping
[18:02] <p0six> it has two options "Demo & Full install"
[18:02] <p0six> and "Learn more about xubuntu"
[18:03] <holstein> if you have USB boo, you can install to a USB stick, or external USB hard drive, put the grub bootloader out on that device and the windows install is unchanged
[18:03] <p0six> "Demo & Full install" tells me to boot from cd
[18:03] <p0six> holstein: yes I was thinking of that sort
[18:03] <p0six> I only know how to write a iso into usb
[18:03] <p0six> installing it on usb is beyond my knowledge
[18:03] <holstein> p0six: wubi just installs 'inside' windows
[18:03] <p0six> is that possible?
[18:04] <holstein> p0six: this is all open.. literally anything is possible, including you totally breaking your install of windows
[18:04] <holstein> i say, decide *exactly* what you want to do, and go from there
[18:04] <Sysi> if you can unplug your HDD and maybe even if you can't
[18:04] <holstein> yeah, i used to do that... just pul the cable on the hard drive, install to USB
[18:05] <Sysi> usb can be as slow as VM
[18:05] <holstein> like Sysi suggests ^^
[18:05] <p0six> nah,am trying to learn this thing,before am totally familiar with it I don't want to commit it to my hdd
[18:05] <holstein> p0six: then do VM.. or wubi
[18:05] <p0six> usb install seems quite tempting in such case
[18:05] <p0six> wait
[18:05] <Sysi> holstein: I'm not sure if you can make installer to see usb drive if you have sata/ide plugged in
[18:06] <holstein> Sysi: i have
[18:06] <p0six> btw I can't pull the hdd plug,its a laptop fyi
[18:06] <holstein> p0six: yeah.. i did that on my EEE netbooks
[18:06] <holstein> p0six: you *can* if you want
[18:06] <holstein> you dont have to though... just try wubi i say... thats easily reversable and doesnt hurt anything
[18:07] <p0six> wait
[18:07] <p0six> let me find this dirty wubi first
[18:07] <p0six> *direct
[18:09] <p0six> erm what happens when I install via wubi?
[18:09] <p0six> can I uninstall it later if I want to?
[18:09] <holstein> p0six: it installs inside windows pretty much
[18:09] <holstein> doesnt change the boot loader
[18:10] <p0six> and?
[18:10] <Sysi> it's like an application in windows (AFAIK)
[18:10] <holstein> doesnt partition or format... you can remove it like a windows application
[18:10] <p0six> 0.0 oh no! that sounds too perfect
[18:10] <p0six> whaats the catch?
[18:10] <holstein> p0six: correct.. theres literally not reason not to try it
[18:11] <holstein> p0six: is sucks a little sometimes... it can be slower... and if you want to move it into a normal install, its a drag
[18:11] <p0six> but how do I boot it then if there's no particular boot loader pointing at it?
[18:11] <holstein> p0six: for you.. no catch
[18:11] <holstein> p0six: the windows one boots it
[18:11] <p0six> and?
[18:11] <holstein> thats it man.. the windows one boot its up
[18:11] <holstein> you get booted into it... you use it
[18:11] <holstein> if you remove it, the entry goes away... thats it
[18:12] <p0six> entry?
[18:12] <holstein> p0six: the entry in the windows bootloader that is made to boot the wubi installation of linux you are discussing
[18:12] <holstein> that will be removed if you remove the wubi install
[18:13] <p0six> ah
[18:13] <p0six> sounds all fine with me
[18:13] <p0six> :]
[18:13] <holstein> but, dual booting is the way to go... if you *dont* have your data backed up, and you have no plan for recovering windows.. this would be a great time to do that
[18:13] <holstein> that hard drive *will* fail
[18:13] <p0six> er why will that harddrive fail?
[18:13] <holstein> p0six: they all do
[18:13] <p0six> its a new laptop
[18:13] <p0six> !!
[18:14] <Sysi> because you don't have backup :p
[18:14] <holstein> yeah.. doesnt matter they all fail
[18:14] <Sysi> I'm not very big fan of dualbooting, but neither fan of wubi
[18:14] <Sysi> see if latter suits your needs
[18:15] <holstein> i think its better than wubi.. but its so easy to undo...
[18:15] <p0six> I believe one os system is better
[18:16] <holstein> the os's dont care... and the hard drive doesnt either.. do what you feel comfortable with
[18:16] <p0six> when am well versed and my isp modems start rolling out linux cm I'll switch maybe
[18:16] <p0six> :]
[18:16] <p0six> till then I think I'll wubi put xubuntu here
[18:17] <holstein> whatever you do... just get your backup scenario in order... no matter what OS you are running, the hard drive is going to fail
[18:17] <recon_lap> p0six: ask your isp for a router
[18:17] <p0six> heh,holstein is good at frightening ppl
[18:18] <p0six> recon_lap: its a wimax isp
[18:18] <p0six> 4g thingy
[18:18] <p0six> you plug in lame ax326 and voila!
[18:18] <holstein> p0six: im not frightened.. my data is backed up... i speak not of fear.. only truth
[18:21] <p0six> so howmuch installation size is recommended?
[18:21] <p0six> its selected to 18GB
[18:21] <p0six> wubi
[18:21] <Sysi> minimum of 5GB, better to have at least 10
[18:23] <p0six> I have 4 108GB empty drives
[18:23] <p0six> 4x108GB
[18:24] <holstein> wubi lets you point to where ever you like
[18:24] <holstein> as long as you realize the speed effect running from USB
[18:24] <p0six> ?
[18:24] <p0six> speed?
[18:24] <holstein> p0six: USB will be slower
[18:24] <p0six> erm am installing in hdd
[18:24] <holstein> p0six: cool
[18:25] <p0six> tho usb boot wasn't as slow as you make it sound
[18:25] <p0six> that was fast enough
[18:25] <holstein> if you point wubi to an external USB drive, which is what im assuming you are talking about since this is a laptop
[18:25] <holstein> the speed would be slower... from USB
[18:25] <p0six> I am pointing at my internal hdd,as you said I can uninstall it anytime
[18:25] <p0six> :]
[18:25] <p0six> safer
[18:25] <p0six> I have a live bootable usb already
[18:26] <Sysi> usb sticks are slower than hdd trough usb, but I like SSD fast
[18:26] <holstein> right.. and thats USB... so it'll be slower than the internal hard drive would be
[18:26] <p0six> *sigh*
[18:27] <holstein> p0six: yeah.. me too.. enjoy!
[18:28] <p0six> what?
[18:29] <p0six> that was fast
[18:29] <p0six> asking me to reboot now
[18:29] <p0six> :]
[19:47] <p0six> hello again!
[19:47] <p0six> :]
[20:30] <beata1> I'm attempting to learn how to adjust the icon sizes in the applets on my panel and am admittedly lost. I've been able to discover that I need gtkrc settings, but I'm unsure of which settings or which configuration file. Each applet appears to have a different icon size, as does the panel itself.
[22:02] <Starn> wassup everyone
[22:02] <Starn> opps wrong chang
[22:57] <methodx> sup
[23:51] <willijs3> Hello!
[23:51] <willijs3> Does anyone know if I can modify the "indicator plugin" in the panel. I want to get rid of the envelope.
[23:52] <willijs3> I can't seem to find it though
[23:57] <willijs3> Hate to be annoying, but Does anyone know if I can modify the "indicator plugin" in the panel. I want to get rid of the envelope.
[23:58] <robin_> Hi, newbie just arrived, doing chat for the first time!  Courageously - or foolishly - testing Xubu 12.04!
[23:59] <willijs3> Welcome