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j2bv16God01:02
j2bv16Im on lubuntu01:03
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Unit193Kalidarn: Can you disable that?02:25
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mosnoi thought the lubuntu alternate installer fetches updates as part of the install process. true?03:11
mosnobecause i'm being prompted post-install for a ton of updates, even though i saw apt (via debian-installer) connect to the net03:11
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phillwmosno: it was gathering what it would need, the 2nd time it asks is to actually download them all.04:24
phillwwhich for 11.10 at this stage of its life will be a lot!04:25
mosnophillw, that's weird -- debian pulls-in updates during the install04:25
mosnolubuntu *seems to*04:25
mosnobut doesnt'04:25
mosnophillw, why wouldn't it just do the download as part of the install if debian-installer already has that functionality?04:40
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Unit193!away > zz_Kalidarn07:28
ubottuzz_Kalidarn, please see my private message07:28
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Unit193Kalidarn: Are you online?09:25
tonelocIm after trying to make a lubuntu boot cd using roxio09:29
tonelocI mistakenly forgot to make the write speed slower09:29
tonelocand burned it at 48x09:29
tonelocand the pc wont boot it09:29
tonelocI only have one cd left09:30
tonelocthere is an option in roxio to make the cd bootable09:30
tonelocshould i use that?09:30
tonelocbut, wouldnt the .iso file be enough to enable booting?09:31
tonelocI burned a DSL disc before09:31
Unit193Shouldn't have to, just burn the iso, but first check MD5.09:31
tonelocI think i just burned the .iso file09:31
Unit193Could you use a flash?09:31
tonelocI dont have  a spare flash09:32
tonelocany i have- do not have enough space anyway09:32
tonelocit has to be a cd09:32
Unit193Alright, so CD it is.09:32
tonelocyeah, i will just burn the .iso09:33
Unit193Try MD5 checking, and then just make sure you're making the CD correctly, easy to mess up on that.09:33
tonelocyeah, i should have set it for the slowest burn speed09:33
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gautam123Hi all, the mic on my 11.10 isn't working09:54
gautam123can someone help troubleshoot please? Thanks09:54
Marzatagautam123: but it was working in 11.04?09:56
gautam123Marzata: Dunno, this is a fresh install09:56
gautam123This laptop had windows before..09:56
gautam123The volume of the mic in alsamixer is full09:56
gautam123so is mic boost09:56
gautam123and there is only one sound card09:57
gautam123Intel HDA09:57
Marzatawhat laptop?09:57
gautam123Intel 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller driver HDA Intel Sound: ALSA v: 1.0.2409:57
gautam123Sony Vaio VGN - CS series09:57
gautam123I also tried plugging in an external mic from the mic jack09:57
gautam123but that didn' work either09:58
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gautam123Marzata: Fixed it10:08
gautam123I installed pavucontrol10:08
gautam123PulseAudio Volume Control10:08
gautam123From there I was able to choose the correct device and control the volume10:09
tonelocis l;ubuntu not gui?10:18
toneloc*lubuntu10:18
tonelocI have made a boot cd10:18
tonelocand entered to try without installing10:19
toneloci get as far as a command prompt10:19
tonelocbut i was expecting a whole gui desktop10:19
tonelocnot just a command line10:19
tonelocI wonder what did i do wrong10:19
toneloc?10:19
Marzatatoneloc: last summer?10:22
tonelochaha very funny10:24
tonelocjust there now- i mad ethe cd10:24
toneloc*made the10:24
tonelocperhaps I got the wrong image?10:24
tonelocI have lubuntu-11.10 desktop-i38610:25
Marzatatoneloc: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/oneiric/release/10:26
toneloci think that is where I got my image10:27
tonelochmm, my image is 658MB10:36
tonelocnot the same size as the other10:36
tonelocoh wait- it is the same10:38
tonelocwelcome to ubuntu 11.10 (GNU/Linux 3.0.0-12 generic i686)10:40
tonelocis what it says10:40
tonelocI guess this is just a command line only :(10:40
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CatalanGuyhi, is it a good idea to upgrade from ubuntu 10.10 to lubuntu 12.04?12:15
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ren1ciao17:15
nicofsI just installed Lubuntu on a system running Xubuntu - after purging Xubuntu at startup I get "xsession: could not start xfce-session. loading default" (or similar) - so apparently LXDE is the default already. how do i configure my system to use the default by default?17:35
holsteini remember having bigger issues than that, and i just decided to have them both installed.. LXDE and XFCE17:37
nicofsholstein, my system has 4GB of hdd - can't afford that...17:38
nicofsand since Xfce uses too much of the 448MB RAM...17:38
holsteinnicofs: i would probably lose the greeter too then, and just start whatever on the commandline17:40
phillwnicofs: did you follow http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxdenatty for getting rid of xubuntu?17:41
nicofsphillw, no, i just worked through my packages manually...17:42
phillw(or the set of instructions relevant for your version.. e.g. 10.10 etc)17:42
phillwnicofs: I suggest running the command from there. I've never had any complaints when people have used it. But... what version of lubuntu are you using?17:43
nicofsi *guess* it's 11.10 - at least the underlying ubuntu was...17:44
phillwokies, those instructions will work as they are on that page.17:45
phillw(there was a slight alteration suggested for prior to 11.10.)17:45
nicofsthat command doesn't work as such... it returnes errors "virtual packages like XYZ can't be removed" and "unable to locate XYZ"...17:49
nicofsi can (will) sort out said packages and retry...17:49
phillwhmmm, it should, however still remove any xubuntu ones you missed?17:51
nicofsi don't think that any missed packages will change the problem...17:55
nicofsat some point, xsession is configured to start xfce - which is no longer there - and then offers me to start the default (lxde)17:55
nicofsphillw, after adjusting the command, i will apparently free another 560MB... but among those things to be removed are packages i still need (pidgin)...17:59
smile4everAmberJ_: hi! :D18:28
AmberJ_hey smile4ever :)18:30
AmberJWhich Amber, smile4ever ? AmberJ_ or AmberJ ? ;)18:44
smile4everAmberJ: both! :o18:45
mudd1hi there21:22
mudd1my NetworkManager stopped working yesterday or so ... in Precise21:23
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mudd1don't know if this is a bug or me who just broke something21:23
mudd1I'm a bit lost how to debug this thing21:24
icerootmudd1: seems to be a common bug21:24
icerootmudd1: i saw some reports about that on #ubuntu+121:24
mudd1ok21:24
mudd1thanks21:24
mudd1so I won't try to make things worse by trying to fix this21:24
icerootmudd1: maybe have a look at launchpad21:25
iceroothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/95623821:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 956238 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "network-manager is almost unusable since the latest update" [Undecided,New]21:26
mudd1thanks a lot, I still don't find my way easily on Launchpad21:27
icerootmudd1: no problem21:28
mudd1my symptoms are a bit different, my nm-applet said something about network-manager not running at all21:28
mudd1although now it just says "networking disabled" and the enable menu entry is greyed out21:29
mudd1this is all very weird21:29
mudd1maybe I just add my symptoms to this bug and let the maintainers figure out if this has a common cause or is yet another bug21:30
mudd1is there any other log that network-manager reports to than the syslog?21:31
mudd1I'd like to provide something remotely useful at least21:32
mudd1network-manager main process (9813) terminated with status 121:32
mudd1network-manager main process ended, respawning21:32
mudd1this is what the syslog says when I restart the network-manager service21:33
mudd1not terribly verbose21:33
mudd1bbiab21:34
_DeLa_hi there21:38
_DeLa_what is the minimum free hard drive GBs needed for lubuntu installation?21:39
Marzata5 GB?21:41
Unit193/dev/sdb6             8.9G  3.7G  4.7G  45% /21:43
_DeLa_I got an asus eee pc 701 netbook with 4gb of ssd HD....21:44
Unit193As you can see, mine is using only 3.7G now.21:44
_DeLa_yeah, well...300mb will be loaded quite fast...21:49
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mudd1_DeLa_, if you can get a cheap drive that's somewhat larger, you should probably go for that option22:09
mudd1my Lubuntu install uses 11 Gigs but I'm the kind of guy who installs loads of packages without thinking ... anyway, if you don't want to think about every package twice, you should try and get a cheap 16G SSD or something22:11
_DeLa_oh well...I just got the asus eee off ebay for around 60 euros....an new ssd would be at least as much euro-wise... probably not ;)22:18
_DeLa_thanks anyway22:26
mudd1_DeLa_, you might get a cheap but usable 16G drive for 30 bucks ... still half the price of the netbook but also four times the capacity ;)22:42
mudd1I'm off, thanks again for the help, iceroot22:43
_DeLa_mudd1: I hope to have found a cheaper alternative: v22:44
_DeLa_http://www.bodhilinux.com/system.php22:44
_DeLa_gna22:44
_DeLa_;-)22:44
GalicjaGreetings all!23:04
GalicjaI compiled the latest and greatest today, from source!  uname -a:  Linux Karpaty 3.3.0-rc7-git-762ad8a-EJM-MOD #1 Thu Mar 15 06:12:04 CET 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux23:06

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