| snap-l | rick_h: WHo is having trouble with a Windows key? | 00:25 |
|---|---|---|
| rick_h | snap-l: just wife was confused what 'meta/windows' was | 00:26 |
| snap-l | Ah | 00:27 |
| jcastro | yeah so you do a git clone | 02:17 |
| jcastro | but you didn't install git | 02:17 |
| jcastro | also you try to run something called install_subway | 02:18 |
| jcastro | which doesn't appear to exist | 02:18 |
| jrwren | o_O | 02:19 |
| jrwren | install_subway? | 02:19 |
| snap-l | alternatively, you can apt-get install potbelly | 02:29 |
| _stink_ | looks like most quiznos around here have been apt-get removed | 02:46 |
| rick_h | doh! | 02:47 |
| snap-l | ugh | 02:48 |
| snap-l | Good morning | 11:23 |
| mydogsnameisrudy | morning snap-l | 11:24 |
| snap-l | How goes the day? | 11:26 |
| mydogsnameisrudy | looks like a good day coming | 11:26 |
| snap-l | Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends | 13:02 |
| snap-l | We're so glad you could attend, come inside, come inside | 13:03 |
| snap-l | There behind a glass stands a real blade of grass | 13:03 |
| snap-l | Be careful as you pass,.move along, move along | 13:03 |
| snap-l | Come inside, the show's about to start | 13:04 |
| snap-l | Guaranteed to blow your head apart | 13:04 |
| snap-l | Rest assured you'll get your money's worth | 13:04 |
| snap-l | Greatest show in Heaven, Hell or Earth | 13:04 |
| snap-l | ~Emerson Lake And Palmer | 13:04 |
| brousch | botbrew has python2.7, vim, and git. pip is easy to install. if i can get virtualenv working i could develop on my tablet | 13:06 |
| jrwren | i need python help. | 13:13 |
| jrwren | i have inherited a codebase. | 13:13 |
| jrwren | Im not happy with some things in it. | 13:13 |
| jrwren | so... first nit pick. | 13:13 |
| jrwren | there is alot of pickle.load(open(filename)) and pickle.dump(something,open(filename)) | 13:14 |
| jrwren | in it. | 13:14 |
| jrwren | shouldn't those open file handles be closed? | 13:14 |
| snap-l | jrwren: WEll, they'll be closed on garbage collection | 13:20 |
| jrwren | ok, so single functions with pickle.load(open(file)) and later pickle.dump(open(file)) | 13:20 |
| jrwren | and... WHAT?!?! | 13:21 |
| jrwren | since when does any garbage collector collect file handles??? | 13:21 |
| jrwren | GC's collect memory, not filehandles. | 13:21 |
| jrwren | at least in java and .net | 13:21 |
| snap-l | jrwren: On exit they will be closed | 13:21 |
| jrwren | is python's filehandle not as low level ? | 13:21 |
| jrwren | right... on exit. | 13:21 |
| jrwren | which is NEVER in the case of a django app :) | 13:21 |
| snap-l | but I believe the pickle code will do the open / close | 13:21 |
| snap-l | it's not working on a file handle | 13:22 |
| jrwren | snap-l: you are not the first to mention t his, but can you please find me documentation on this? | 13:22 |
| snap-l | http://docs.python.org/library/pickle.html | 13:22 |
| jrwren | no shit. | 13:22 |
| jrwren | no mention of is there. | 13:22 |
| jrwren | i can google too :p | 13:23 |
| snap-l | jrwren: Cranky cranky | 13:23 |
| jrwren | indeed. | 13:23 |
| jrwren | http://stackoverflow.com/a/575383/16998 | 13:25 |
| snap-l | Ah, you have better google fu than I | 13:27 |
| snap-l | jrwren: Does that answer your question, though? | 13:30 |
| jrwren | yes. | 13:32 |
| brousch | jrwren: wow, so they just tossed you right in django eh? | 13:32 |
| jrwren | there are no more referencs to that file handle, so it is released immediately | 13:32 |
| jrwren | VERY foreign coming from .net and java | 13:32 |
| jrwren | brousch: yup. django is damned simple | 13:32 |
| jrwren | i wonder if someday I'll make rick_h the uber pythonista proud of my python skirra. | 13:42 |
| jrwren | probably not | 13:42 |
| brousch | not by using django ;) | 13:43 |
| brousch | jrwren: i know you just got a new job, but i think you would really fit in here http://detroit.atomicobject.com/ | 13:43 |
| brousch | a lot of ruby, .net, and java | 13:44 |
| jrwren | django is not going to hold someone back from being awesome at python. | 13:46 |
| jrwren | brousch: yeah, atomic object is awesome. | 13:46 |
| jrwren | but i don't want to commute that | 13:47 |
| jrwren | or move. | 13:47 |
| jrwren | and they wouldn't pay me enough :p | 13:47 |
| brousch | i honestly don't know what they pay | 13:47 |
| snap-l | jrwren: but other than that, how does it sound? | 13:47 |
| snap-l | Oh noes! I just got a note to my home account! Apparently my mailbox administrator says I'm over my quota! | 13:49 |
| snap-l | Your mailbox has exceeded one or more size limits set by the administrator. | 13:49 |
| snap-l | You can not send or receive new mail until size of your mail box is reduced. | 13:49 |
| snap-l | For more space, Please click the link below and fill in the details of correct account. | 13:49 |
| snap-l | Maybe I should just contact my mail administrator. Hello, self? Yeah, apparently I'm over some quota. | 13:49 |
| brousch | snap-l: oh crap, i just forwarded an opportunity to make a million dollars to you. i hope it doesn't bounce | 13:50 |
| snap-l | brousch: Not to worry; I run my own mail server. :) | 13:50 |
| snap-l | It'll get here just fine, my little nigerian prince. :) | 13:50 |
| jcastro | snap-l, he doesn't have better google-fu | 14:12 |
| jcastro | he's just smart enough to always add a site:stackoverflow.com to any programming question | 14:12 |
| jcastro | a fine plan | 14:12 |
| snap-l | jcastro: Yeah, that is a plan | 14:19 |
| jcastro | always through google, the built in search is kind of meh | 14:21 |
| jcastro | I wish they would just use google or something as their built in search | 14:21 |
| rick_h | jrwren: yea, but these days the with context manager is the way to go | 16:56 |
| rick_h | jrwren: and I'm always proud of good python devs, hell awesome that you're doing python. You'll pass by me soon | 16:57 |
| rick_h | ughhh, barely alive today | 16:57 |
| rick_h | I have a feeling I'm in for a rough day | 16:58 |
| Blazeix | how many hours of sleep have you averaged this week? | 16:58 |
| Blazeix | judging by your tweets, 2 hours a night | 16:58 |
| rick_h | hah, well started out 'ugh, tired at 8pm...bed at 10pm' | 16:59 |
| rick_h | ended up 'ooh, tired at 3am, bed around 4:30am' | 16:59 |
| snap-l | rick_h: so I should call you tomorrow morning at 6:30? :) | 17:06 |
| jrwren | rick_h: yeah, context manager looks cool... maybe a bit too VB like :p :) | 17:20 |
| snap-l | http://ia700300.us.archive.org/14/items/AlJolson/AlJolson-YouAintHeardNothingYet.mp3 | 17:32 |
| greg-g | w00t! my project was mentioned, positively, in the WSJ! http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2012/03/14/what-googles-search-changes-might-mean-for-you/ | 19:06 |
| greg-g | search for LRMI | 19:06 |
| _stink_ | sweet! | 19:08 |
| snap-l | greg-g: Very cool | 19:17 |
| greg-g | snap-l: that bandcamp album you linked to yesterday was good (solid drums/instrumentals + no vocals)... got any more recommendations my dear music recommendation AI? | 19:54 |
| snap-l | Spiralmountain | 20:05 |
| snap-l | http://spiralmountain.bandcamp.com/ | 20:05 |
| snap-l | Their self-titled album is what I'm thinking of, greg-g | 20:06 |
| greg-g | thank you, you good sir | 20:08 |
| snap-l | http://encircle.bandcamp.com/album/watch-the-sky-fall | 20:08 |
| greg-g | lemme just finish watching this, because he is hilarious http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WwfYrW4oJo&feature=related | 20:08 |
| snap-l | http://returningwehearthelarks.bandcamp.com/ | 20:09 |
| greg-g | alright, back to XML/RDF hacking :) thanks snap-l :) | 20:11 |
| snap-l | np. :) | 20:12 |
| greg-g | spiral mountain is starting out great | 20:12 |
| snap-l | Yeah, it's very similar | 20:12 |
| jrwren | i think i found a bug in pep3110 | 20:22 |
| jrwren | http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3110/#semantic-changes it is deleting None, which makes no sense. | 20:23 |
| snap-l | http://www.reddit.com/r/fossworldproblems/comments/qxvxk/wrote_university_paper_in_latex_esubmission_only/ | 21:12 |
| snap-l | I'm totally doing this the next time someone wants a doc formatted file | 21:12 |
| greg-g | I just started to download the Encircle album you linked to snap-l, and I said, outloud to my dismay, "I'm a FLAC-tard" | 21:18 |
| snap-l | Yep, I loves me some flac | 21:18 |
| snap-l | greg-g: Want a Squeezebox coupon to buy some flac-capable streaming hardware? :) | 21:19 |
| brousch | i use mp3. does that make me FLACid? | 21:19 |
| snap-l | Nah, you're just lossy | 21:20 |
| greg-g | I can always count on brousch to one up my jokes. | 21:20 |
| greg-g | snap-l: does this coupon cost you anything? | 21:20 |
| snap-l | greg-g: Not at all. | 21:20 |
| snap-l | I'll send you a scan when I get home | 21:20 |
| greg-g | coolio | 21:21 |
| greg-g | thanks, may or may not, but options are awesome, and something like this would be nice | 21:21 |
| snap-l | Yeah, I'm really digging my Squeezeboxen. | 21:21 |
| jrwren | ++ | 23:02 |
| jrwren | i finally used squeezebox syncronization. totally sweet. | 23:02 |
| jrwren | lol... or pep3110 is fine and I need to learn python :) | 23:04 |
| snap-l | jrwren: Isn't it awesome? | 23:06 |
| snap-l | jrwren: Yeah, I think that pep is OK, but I couldn't vocalize what was right about it | 23:06 |
| snap-l | I <3 the public domain and old recordings | 23:08 |
| snap-l | listening to Rachmaninov's piano concertos played by Sergei Rachmaninov himself | 23:08 |
| snap-l | Naxos did a hell of a job remastering these recordings | 23:09 |
| snap-l | I wish there were more things in the PD | 23:13 |
| greg-g | "just wait"? ohrite | 23:23 |
| snap-l | greg-g: Yeah, I love that the 1920s is in the PD, but the 1930s is somewhat in the PD | 23:24 |
| snap-l | and the 1940s, 50s, and 60s start tapering off | 23:24 |
| snap-l | modtly because of fuck ups and non-renewals | 23:25 |
| snap-l | But, since we're heading back to Victorian times in prudishness, maybe the PD will welcome us with open arms | 23:25 |
| snap-l | with it's old shit and fuck-ups. :) | 23:26 |
| * greg-g can't wait until he is an old shit and fuck up | 23:28 | |
| greg-g | HALF WAY THERE! | 23:28 |
| snap-l | heh | 23:29 |
| brousch | jrwren: Did you get flattened? http://blogs.woodtv.com/2012/03/15/confirmed-tornado-near-dexter-near-ann-arbor/ | 23:57 |
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