| RAOF | I'll see if I can whip something up. | 00:04 |
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| cnd | RAOF, that would be cool | 00:05 |
| * RAOF gets frustrated with technology and goes to get some food. | 00:07 | |
| bryceh | RAOF, hah I just had the exact same thought | 00:09 |
| cnd | anyone know how to see a diff of a whole file | 00:56 |
| cnd | i.e. with all context | 00:56 |
| cnd | bzr diff that is | 00:57 |
| cnd | got it | 00:59 |
| cnd | --diff-options "-U -1" | 00:59 |
| cnd | RAOF, do you have an idea of when you might be able to turn around a makefile snippet? | 01:29 |
| cnd | this is all a dependency for fixing utouch tests | 01:29 |
| cnd | which badly need xorg-gtest to work again :) | 01:29 |
| RAOF | Aaah :) | 01:30 |
| * RAOF fires up emacs. | 01:30 | |
| cnd | RAOF, if it's a day or two, then that's not a problem | 01:30 |
| cnd | otherwise, I think we need to figure out a contingency plan | 01:31 |
| RAOF | Shouldn't be that long. | 01:31 |
| cnd | ok | 01:32 |
| cnd | in the meantime, I'm manually installing libgtest-dev_1.6.0-1ubuntu1 :) | 01:33 |
| === himcesjf1 is now known as himcesjf | ||
| broder | hmm, tap-to-click seems to keep getting turned on when i boot up, even though the setting is off. if i open the capplet and toggle the setting on and off, then i stop getting tap-to-click. what should i file a bug against? | 17:29 |
| tjaalton | broder: gnome-settings-daemon is my bet | 17:31 |
| broder | hmm, yeah. i think you're right. i don't see a bug in the code, though. bah | 17:36 |
| Sarvatt | broder: do you have a clickpad? | 18:04 |
| Sarvatt | synclient -l | grep ClickPad | 18:04 |
| broder | Sarvatt: no | 18:04 |
| broder | "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad" | 18:04 |
| Sarvatt | broder: yeah a synaptics clickpad I meant, i just noticed ClickPad=1 seems to unconditionally enable tap to click | 18:05 |
| broder | it's not a clickpad, and synclient isn't identifying it as one | 18:05 |
| Sarvatt | oh you use older releases don't ya | 18:05 |
| broder | i'm actually on precise finally :) | 18:06 |
| broder | (and i'm in the process of upgrading the product i work on at work to oneiric, so i'll be totally off the unreasonably old releases) | 18:06 |
| Sarvatt | broder: is the g-s-d mouse plugin enabled? i had it (along with xrandr and xsettings) mysteriously get disabled a few times on package upgrades | 18:08 |
| Sarvatt | org/gnome/settings-daemon/plugins/mouse in dconf-editor | 18:08 |
| broder | yep, it's active | 18:08 |
| broder | turning tap-to-click on and then back off in gnomecc seems to fix it until the next reboot | 18:09 |
| seb128 | Sarvatt, I doubt it's on upgrade | 18:11 |
| seb128 | Sarvatt, did you ever run unity-greeter in your session? | 18:11 |
| seb128 | Sarvatt, it does that for you, those plugins are disabled in the greeter, and when run in your session they disable them for your user | 18:11 |
| Sarvatt | seb128: does --test-mode count? | 18:11 |
| seb128 | yes | 18:11 |
| Sarvatt | yep indeed that was the problem then! | 18:11 |
| Sarvatt | thanks, was really stumping me why it happens | 18:12 |
| seb128 | "known bug" ;-) | 18:12 |
| seb128 | yw | 18:12 |
| seb128 | it took me a while to figure as well | 18:12 |
| broder | ...huh. tap to click actually seems to have gotten turned back on, possibly when my screensaver activated | 18:43 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| broder | nope, it just gets turned on intermittently | 19:22 |
| bryceh | cnd, see this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOvQCPLkPt4 | 19:39 |
| FernandoMiguel | evening | 19:46 |
| cnd | bryceh, yeah, MS has been talking about improving touch performance for a little bit now | 19:53 |
| cnd | maybe 6 months | 19:53 |
| cnd | they're working closely with the makers of the panels | 19:53 |
| bryceh | mm | 19:53 |
| cnd | hopefully we'll benefit from it too :) | 19:53 |
| tjaalton | hm, apport opened chromium for some reason, firefox is the default.. | 21:22 |
| tjaalton | x-www-browser points to chromium for some reason, but apport should use xdg-open | 21:27 |
| bryceh | tjaalton, hmm according to apport/NEWS, it started using xdg-open around 1.24 (2011-10-19) | 21:35 |
| bryceh | wonder if it's something lower down like in launchpadlib? | 21:36 |
| tjaalton | could be, filed a bug about it just in case | 21:38 |
| tjaalton | seems that ubuntu-bug ends up using xdg-open, but the crash reporter doesn't | 21:39 |
| bryceh | hmm, is that evand's crash reporter code? | 21:40 |
| tjaalton | whoopsie? maybe | 21:42 |
| tjaalton | it's just the daemon? | 21:44 |
| === chrisccoulson_ is now known as chrisccoulson | ||
| bryceh | more ubuntu wayland hand wringing on moronix | 22:33 |
| bryceh | they suddenly expect that end users should be able to transition off X11 to wayland in 12.10? | 22:44 |
| RAOF | Totally possible! | 22:45 |
| RAOF | As long as the users aren't particularly demanding. | 22:46 |
| RAOF | :) | 22:46 |
| FernandoMiguel | someone recall me what wayland is | 22:47 |
| bryceh | FernandoMiguel, it's unicorns and rainbows | 22:47 |
| FernandoMiguel | ah those | 22:47 |
| bjsnider | replacement for xorg | 22:55 |
| bryceh | FernandoMiguel, less snarkily, Wayland is a 3D display server as opposed to X which is 2D with 3D bolted on. A lot of people got their hopes up very early on that it would "replace X". But there's still a long way to go, and it irritates me to see phoronix teasing people with what we're (at the moment not) doing in Ubuntu | 23:19 |
| FernandoMiguel | ack | 23:21 |
| RAOF | There's quite a lot of work that'll need to be done before it's ready to "replace X". Where by "replace X" we mean "run X clients in their own X server, and wayland clients alongside them". | 23:21 |
| * RAOF is still interested in turning lightdm into a wayland compositor and running an X server under it, though. | 23:22 | |
| eruditehermit | Sarvatt, hey, are you about? | 23:24 |
| bryceh | RAOF, certainly that would be one way to eliminate our login corruption bug. ;-) | 23:26 |
| RAOF | With all sorts of new and exciting corruption bugs possible! | 23:26 |
| bryceh | out with the old bugs, in with the new! | 23:26 |
| FernandoMiguel | and in the mean time make LP team get paid | 23:27 |
| FernandoMiguel | nite | 23:57 |
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