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willijs3Do you know anything about the indicator plugin in the panel?00:00
beata1.... That was quick ....00:02
antisaintAfternoon all01:28
antisaintQUERY01:29
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beata1I'm looking for some way to make the various icons on my panel the same size. Searching variations on 'xfce panel icon size' has so far been not helpful.03:41
mosnohow can i get rid of the annoying lag when i right-click my desktop? i've already disabled compositing.04:54
mosnoi'm comparing lubuntu and xubuntu side-by-side on identical hardware -- lubuntu doesn't have the lag04:54
mosnoit's around 0.4sec or so04:55
Hanslandahello guys...anyone can help me?  i have a problem here...cant run a game ...got a console message ...think is about libsdl library05:55
Sysiif error message is longer than three lines, paste it to http://paste.ubuntu.com05:56
HanslandaSysi, http://paste.ubuntu.com/884358/05:57
mosnowow, i would have said one line05:59
Sysisome say two, some four, luckily this is clear case :)06:00
Hanslandado u think u can help me Sysi06:01
SysiHanslanda: what graphics card, proprietary/additional drivers?06:01
Hanslandaati mobility radeon hd 4000xxx series06:02
Hanslanda01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M92 [Mobility Radeon HD 4500/5100 Series]06:04
Hanslanda01:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc RV710/73006:04
Sysipress: Alt F2 and type: jockey-gtk06:05
Sysidoes it suggest some drivers?06:05
Hanslandathere are 1 that is not activated06:08
Hanslandabut..06:08
Hanslandaone already activated is a 3D-accelerated proprietary graphics driver for ATI cards.06:09
Hanslandathe one is not activated is the same thing...but there is a comment (post-release updates)06:10
Hanslandajust one minute please...ill be back in 2 minutes Sysi06:13
hanslandaSysi, problem solved..thanks..07:06
hanslandaSysi, i have another problem...where and how i can configure my keyboard07:06
hanslandaanyone can help me configuring my keyboard07:10
crondhanslanda, settings -> settings manager -> keyboard07:11
monserhello all07:12
monseri want to block this driver from being loaded every time at boot time ohci_hdc07:13
hanslandai cant do it this way...i dont know exactly what is my keyboard model...isnt there a way to configure it by matching the keys?07:13
monserI added it to the blacklist.conf but it is still being loaded07:13
monseris there any working way to do that?07:13
crondhanslanda, umm... possibly.  I'm not sure offhand, i'd google that.07:14
hanslandacrond, can u help on this job? ive already searched that...but no success07:15
crondhanslanda, sadly probably not, I just select my keyboard type. :(07:16
hanslandacrond, thank anyway07:16
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well_laid_lawnmonser: what was the line you added to blacklist.conf ?07:22
monserblacklist ohci_hdc07:23
well_laid_lawnk07:23
well_laid_lawnmonser: you might have to blacklist something that depends on that too07:26
monserhow to find out what depends on that?07:26
TheSheeplsmod07:27
monserI see ohci139407:33
monsershould I block usbhid as well?07:34
hanslandahello there...anyone can help me? how can i remove mouse acceleration ?07:54
xubuntu860hello, guys10:09
Marzataeh10:10
knomehullo10:10
alban_hallhello, i have a problem of window manager collapse : no more tittle bar, and worse no more mouse cursor, or just a cross.10:24
alban_halland only one virtual desktop, and no possibility to bring forward a window from the background. when i go to the xfce settings, there is nothing more in the window manager and window manager tweaks sections.10:26
cheveeI'm looking for a bit of xscreensaver help.12:36
Marzatachevee: just ask12:39
chevee:)12:40
cheveeWasn't sure if anyone was paying attention.12:40
cheveeI lock my screen every day when I leave work.12:40
cheveeSome mornings I come in to find my xscreensaver daemon has died over night and my desktop is not locked.12:40
cheveeWhere do I start looking for the root cause?12:40
Sysi~/.xsession-errors for a start12:41
cheveeHmmmm.  have not heard of that one before. :D12:42
* Marzata uses only "xtrlock" 12:44
cheveeHm.  Looks like maybe it's one particular screensaver?  I have my settings set to random, so I'll try and pick one that works and see if the problem goes away.12:49
Marzatachevee: you might install simpler screensavers12:51
cheveeIs there a better option other than xscreensaver or do you  mean the screensavers themselves?12:52
Marzataxscreensaver-data-extra12:53
cheveeI have that12:54
Sysichevee: could well be some specific screensaver (theme)12:54
cheveeThis is the only error I have in the log for xscreensaver:12:55
chevee(xscreensaver-demo:11350): libglade-WARNING **: Could not load support for `gnome': libgnome.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory12:55
cheveeSo I'm assuming that's from one specific screensaver which causes xscreensaver to crash?12:55
jevanzhello everyone how can i force thunar to english13:14
* Marzata uses interfaces only in US English. 13:15
TheSheepjevanz: LC_ALL=en.US thunar13:15
jevanzTheSheep, how will i do that13:15
jevanzTheSheep, terminal?13:16
TheSheepjevanz: whatever is convenient for you, may be terminal, may be a launcher icon13:16
TheSheepsorry, that's en_US not en.US13:16
jevanzTheSheep, same only hidden files are english now13:17
TheSheepI don't understand what you mean13:19
jevanzTheSheep, still chinese13:19
TheSheepmake sure you kill all other instances of thunar13:19
TheSheepbtw, thunar will not translate the filenames13:20
TheSheeponly the menus and such13:20
jevanzoh13:20
jevanzeven uing the language selector didnt help13:20
jevanzusing*13:20
TheSheepwhat is the problem you are trying to solve?13:21
jevanzi need to change the folder names in thunar it is chinese i want to make this english13:22
TheSheepjust rename them13:22
TheSheepor do you mean the special directories, like 'Video', 'Documents', etc?13:23
jevanzyes13:23
jevanzall chinese not english even on login has chinese characted13:23
TheSheepchange .config/user-dirs.locale13:23
jevanzcharacter*13:23
TheSheepto en_US13:23
jevanzafter changing do i need to reboot?13:24
TheSheepyou can also change the names in .config/user-dirs.dirs13:24
TheSheepno13:24
TheSheepyou might need to log out13:24
jevanzok will try13:25
jevanzbrb log out13:26
jevanzTheSheep, worst after logout many folders display with chinese names13:30
TheSheepjevanz: but there should be new ones with english names now13:31
jevanzTheSheep, still no change13:31
TheSheepjevanz: xubuntu will not delete the old ones, because you might have something important there13:31
TheSheep:/13:31
TheSheepjevanz: what if you rename .config/user-dirs.dirs to user-dirs.dirs.old or something?13:32
jevanzTheSheep, ok after renameing will xubuntu creates user-dir by its own?13:33
TheSheepjevanz: that's the theory13:33
jevanzTheSheep, ok trying13:34
TheSheepjevanz: if it doesn't, you can rename that file back, change the names in it and manually rename the directories and it will work13:34
jevanzTheSheep, ok now i have english names on folder but has chinese too13:38
jevanzTheSheep, maybe its safe to delete this folders?13:40
jevanzTheSheep, folders with chinese names13:40
jevanzTheSheep, ok working fine now thanks for helping13:42
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Guest85100hello. why ub server don't boot from usb-hdd? xub normally boot with "map" from grub4dos.14:37
holsteinGuest85100: ub server = ubuntu server ?14:38
Guest85100yes14:38
holsteinubuntu server is not booting from a usb hard drive you have installed it to?14:39
Guest85100yes14:39
holsteini would look into where grub is, and how its configured14:40
holsteini typically put grub on the removable media14:40
Guest85100grub print error 1714:41
Guest85100fs on usb - ntfs14:41
holsteinim not so concerned about the file system, though i would just do ext.. i would be more concerned with where grub is14:42
holsteinunless you have *not* instaled the ubuntu server yet, and you are trying to make a live usb stick for installing ubuntu server14:42
holsteinhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/56174/install-ubuntu-10-10-server-from-usb-with-grub4dos14:43
holsteini typically take the path of least resistance.. im might just use xubuntu or lubuntu and convert that to server, or install what i need server-wise14:44
holsteindepends on the box im building and the workflow i need on the server machine.. maybe i need X for something14:44
Sysithis isn't server support channel.. grub4dos is for booting from ntfs?14:46
holsteinyeah... #ubuntu-server is where i would go for actual server installation questions14:46
maxonabout boot ub server. it is real?14:50
bazhangmaxon, try #ubuntu-server14:50
maxonok14:51
goliatHello. I have a Laptop running Xubuntu and im thinking about getting windows on it also. I was wondering if there is any easy way to make a partition i can install windows on? Or is it just better to reinstall Xubuntu?15:03
holstein!grub | goliat15:03
ubottugoliat: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)15:03
holsteini would check out the grub docs on "after installing windows" goliat15:03
holsteingoliat: bascially, you make room for windows however you want... i would use gparted to resize.. then windows will break grub and make xubuntu not boot.. then you recover grub, and grub will boot both OS's15:04
goliatubottu: I havnt lost ubuntu yet. But will i lose it if i would install it? or to be more specifik i lose GRUB and cant boot Xubuntu?15:10
ubottugoliat: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)15:10
goliatdog15:10
goliatdoh*15:10
goliatHolstein: how difficult is it to recover grub? And how safe is it?15:11
goliatA friend said that changing the partition can possibly break it.15:12
holsteingoliat: you should have *all* your data backed up15:12
holsteinyou said "should i reinstall xubuntu".. thats the worst case scenario15:12
holsteinyou break it all somehow and cant get back into xubuntu15:12
holsteingoliat: its not trivial, but quite do-able15:13
holsteingoliat: can you break it? sure... can you just install windows and get into a dual boot? sure15:13
holsteingoliat: read and ask questions... i say, consider running windows in virtualbox if you dont need it for gaming15:13
goliatholstein: Yeah i got that tip to but i dont believe it has the performance for that. I installed Xubuntu on it because i felt that windows slowed it down.15:15
holsteingoliat: for me, i feel like you can literally try it in vbox and not risk breaking anything15:16
holsteinif you dont like it, you can move on15:16
goliatThats true.15:16
magerquarkgoliat, the easiest was is to save /home, then install windows, and then reinstall xubuntu15:16
goliatmagerquark: that depends on how you look at it. I got some software ive struggled to install. Dont know if i want to go through some of that again to be honest.15:18
holsteinpersonally, bacing up /home should be one of the first steps either way you go15:18
magerquarkgoliat, wich computer do you have, there were reasons for switching away from windows, why do you want to use it now?15:19
magerquarkok, when you want to keep your installation then backup /home, resize ubuntu partition with gparted, install windows into the free space generated with gparted, recover grub via live-cd15:21
goliatmagerquark: It's a dell inspiron, I bought it for school and thats mostly programming, alot of the software we used the first year was practicly only available for linux, but now were also using commercial software, thats only available for windows.15:21
magerquarkwich inspiron?15:22
goliat1570 i believe15:22
magerquarkxp should work flawlessly in virtzualbox15:22
goliatOk, Could windows 7 work also?15:23
magerquarkyes it will work, i tried windows 7 in viretualbox with an amd athlon xp 2500+, but it is rather slow then15:23
magerquarki would go for windows xp15:24
goliatmagerquark: Ok, i got the laptop with win 7 basic and i almost cried over how slow it feelt.15:24
magerquarkthats strange, i have a athlon II 5050e here with win7 professional, well it isnt the fastest cpu, but honestly it feels fast15:25
goliatmagerquark: Does gparted work on the disk i have xubuntu on or do i need to run it from a live cd also? To recover GRUB on live cd, is that like a common option on it?15:26
goliatmagerquark: i have some low energy cpu on it, could be that15:26
magerquarkgoliat, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair15:29
magerquarkgoliat, you have to use gparted with a live cd15:31
magerquarkyou can not unmount your "/"-partition15:31
goliatmagerquark: ok, i heard it could take some time to move it, heard anything about that?15:32
goliatwhen i run it as a live-cd/usb can i run it as im testing ubuntu?15:33
magerquarki dont understand your question15:34
goliator is that the definition of the live-cd, runing it from an cd/usb? ^^15:34
magerquarkof course you run the live-system via cd/usb15:34
goliatok15:34
magerquarkit is the "testing mode"15:35
goliatahh ok, nice ^^15:35
magerquarkbut at first backup /home15:35
magerquark!!!!!!!!!!!!15:35
goliatyeah definitely15:38
goliatmagerquark: if the partition would brake. how would i notice it? Can't boot ubuntu? Or error during the partition making?15:40
zezikhello, I want to help with translation, but I found only this page: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise - I want to translate Xubuntu, not Ubuntu! Any advice?22:44
mongyzezik: if it's xubuntu specifically then maybe you mean xfce23:02
Unit193zezik: How about this? http://xubuntu.org/contribute/translating/23:03
zezikaww, thanks23:07
go8765hello. i have simple question - ubuntu with xfce is the same as xbuntu?23:39
Unit193Not quite.23:41
go8765Unit193: so what  the diferenc ?e23:42
lurohgo8765: xubuntu comes with a different set of applications23:42
lurohsure, you can pull them in by installing the xubuntu-desktop package, but you'd still have a bunch of ubuntu cruft left23:43
lurohubuntu one, zeitgeist and whatnot23:43
go8765the use the same repos from upgrade?23:47
go8765f i use ubuntu i have the same fresh xfce soft?23:48
go8765*the=they23:48
go8765f i = if23:48
lurohyes and yes23:48
go8765okay. soo i dont need to chande ubuntu to xubuntu, only install xfce in ubuntu23:49
go8765thanks for answers! :)23:49
lurohalrighty :)23:49

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