[00:29] <imnichol> Does anyone know how to modify which directories are in my rhythmbox library?
[00:31] <Daekdroom> imnichol, Edit > Preferences > Music tab
[00:31] <Daekdroom> Well, it might be different. I'm using the portuguese translation so I don't know how the original is.
[00:31] <imnichol> Daekdroom, I'm actually trying to remove a directory
[00:31] <imnichol> that only lets me add new ones
[00:41] <Daekdroom> Unity2D feels so cartoonish.
[00:41] <Daekdroom> For the time being I'll use it because Unity keeps crashing X for me and I need some stability for a moment.
[01:14] <snadge> lol
[01:16] <WilsonBradley> hello
[01:16] <WilsonBradley> Can someone help me remove Speech_dispatcher ? It broke my audio and gives errors at boot
[01:33] <snadge> yeah i use unity2d
[01:33] <snadge> because fglrx sux
[01:37] <aukhan> I think I am missing something - I have a libwebkit based application that compiles fine, does not link (errors are undefined references for libgtk and libwebkit). I think I need to call ldd something or another to update library cache. Here is my source. http://pastebin.com/ayiEKPhU  Please help!
[01:37] <aukhan> This is on ubuntu 12.04 beta 1
[01:37] <aukhan> not the nightly
[01:38] <Daekdroom> So you installed Beta1 and did not update it?
[01:38] <aukhan> I updated it
[01:38] <aukhan> oh - does it update to the nightly?
[01:38] <Daekdroom> Yes.
[01:38] <aukhan> I did not realise that
[01:39] <Daekdroom> The same way you won't need to reinstall once 12.04 final comes.
[01:39] <Daekdroom> Although sudo apt-get dist-upgrade might be necessary at some point.
[01:39] <aukhan> I see, I do not usually upgrade from betas etc - Once final is out, I do a clean install
[01:41] <aukhan> Regardless, my problem is that it seems like libraries are not in gcc's path or something
[01:41] <aukhan> do I need to execute lddconfig or something similar
[01:41] <trism> aukhan: you need to specify the libs after the object files that reference them, so your pkg-config --libs webkit command needs to go after the mybrowser.c file
[01:42] <aukhan> wow - that worked
[01:43] <aukhan> trism - that worked - thank you
[01:43] <trism> aukhan: you're welcome
[01:44] <aukhan> is this a gcc quirk - nothing to do with ubuntu. right?
[01:47] <stone_> qq-- what config file is 12.04b1 using to control the look of the login window?  In 11.10 it was /etc/lightdm/unity-greeter.conf
[01:51] <trism> aukhan: the linking became more strict in oneiric, http://wiki.debian.org/ToolChain/DSOLinking has an overview, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UnderstandingDSOLinkChange also has a bit more detailed discussion about a similar proposed change in fedora
[01:52] <trism> stone_: the unity-greeter settings were moved to dconf, so they aren't really as easy to edit, although I have had success using vendor overrides
[01:52] <aukhan> trism - this is exactly what I was looking for - thanks for the clarification
[01:58] <trism> stone_: http://www.burtonini.com/blog/computers/gsettings-override-2011-07-04-15-45 using /usr/share/glib2.0/schemas/com.canonical.unity-greeter.gschema.xml as a reference for the keys
[01:58] <stone_> thanks trism.  any google keywords that you'd suggest to help guide my way?
[01:58] <stone_> ah, you beat me to it.  awesome
[01:58] <stone_> thanks trism!
[02:01] <trism> stone_: it says to create a package in the last paragraph, but you really just need to copy the gschema.override file to /usr/share/glib2.0/schemas and run sudo glib-compile-schemas /usr/share/glib2.0/schemas;
[02:03] <stone_> got it
[02:05] <stone_> theres a good chance it'll be turned into a package anyhow, but knowing it can be left scriptable without being part of a package is useful too
[02:05] <stone_> *exactly* what I was looking for
[02:07] <WilsonBradley> :-(
[02:08] <WilsonBradley> :-*Can someone help me remove Speech_dispatcher ? It broke my audio and gives errors at boot :-*
[03:08] <codepal> current status of empathy?
[03:08] <codepal> I had it working, current build seems to be very broke
[03:36] <atpa8a> hmm
[03:37] <atpa8a> why would my laptop lose dns settings once in a while for some short time?
[03:40] <log> codepal: There's something up with dependencies, as I haven't been able to update it/some other packages in the past few days.
[03:48] <vn> um, just burnt precise, any way to have it the server way atm?  I dont want any GUI
[03:49] <atpa8a> vn: there's a download for server
[04:16] <vn> does the default precise install go with a MBR or a GPT?
[04:28] <vn> idk who I was talking with yesterday about my blinking cursor on boot issue...I think maybe snadge but well..just tried 12.04, same behavior
[05:17] <Fyodorovna> Anyone loose the crtl-alt-t=cli
[06:58] <vn> aha, solved my issue...switched HD mode from AHCI to IDE in BIOS
[06:58] <vn> any reason why it wouldn't work with AHCI?
[07:04] <snadge> shouldn't be no
[07:05] <snadge> linux should work either way.. sounds like a kernel bug
[07:05] <snadge> check for bios update i guess
[07:05] <snadge> maybe try a newer kernel failing that.. there is a ppa for ubuntu dev kernels
[07:06] <vn> um...that is the latest precise build.
[07:06] <snadge> yeah its the latest precise kernel.. but not the latest kernel
[07:07] <vn> kinda bleeding edge..
[07:07] <vn> I'll check for bios update even tho' its very recent
[07:08] <snadge> do that first.. but i guess trying a bleeding edge kernel, will help isolate whether its a kernel problem.. and whether it has already been fixed
[07:08] <snadge> its a fairly trivial thing to do also
[07:08] <vn> something doable from apt-get?
[07:08] <vn> havent been touching a kernel since redhat 5.2
[07:11] <snadge> i did have one bookmarked but im out and abotu at the moment
[07:11] <vn> ok, can you PM when you can?
[07:11] <vn> +it
[07:12] <snadge> found it
[07:12] <snadge> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[07:12] <snadge> 3.3rc7 i guess
[07:14] <snadge> download either the i386 or amd64 depending on what you're running.. and dpkg -i linux-*3.3.0-030300rc7*.deb
[07:15] <vn> <ok thanks but after thinking about it...its not the kernel loading that was a problem, but grub's loading
[07:15] <vn> is that still related?
[07:16] <snadge> thats a point.. if it didnt even start to boot the kernel.. then its a grub issue
[07:16] <snadge> and/or bios related
[07:17] <snadge> did it get as far as loading grub? or just complain about a missing OS
[07:17] <alkisg> To change the UI language one is supposed to use gnome-language-selector, right? But "Greek" (which is the system language and it shows up as installed and it was working fine so far) is grayed out...
[07:17] <alkisg> So what can I do to change my UI language?
[07:17] <vn> blinking cursor, no grub menu loading possible, even with some edition of /etc/default/grub
[07:18] <snadge> i dont think the Greek language is going to get enabled, until greece has paid their debt
[07:18] <alkisg> Haha, then German should have been disabled since 1945 :)
[07:18] <alkisg> They've yet to pay their debt to us
[07:20] <vn> 1945? that'd be RDA or RFA
[07:20] <snadge> lol so let me get this straight.. germany owes greece money, but they havn't paid that
[07:21] <snadge> and yet they will lend money
[07:21] <snadge> as long as severe austerity measures are in place
[07:21] <alkisg> snadge: yes, please google about it and let me continue doing what I came here for
[07:21] <alkisg> I don't have time for idle chat with people that don't even google before deciding about countries
[07:22] <snadge> you speak english pretty well though.. just use that ;)
[07:22] <vn> ^
[07:22] <alkisg> OK, thank you for your advice, now if someone can verify that there's a major bug in gnome-language-selector...
[07:23] <snadge> ok.. why not
[07:23] <vn> snadge: if it was a bios issue, would it work in w7 or freevms?
[07:24] <snadge> alkisg: i selected greek and its now installing
[07:25] <vn> so they paid?
[07:25] <snadge> i guess its only greeks that arn't allowed to install greek language.. works fine for this australian ;)
[07:25] <alkisg> snadge: ok, but I already had it installed, the problem is that I'm not allowed to select it in the dialog
[07:25] <snadge> ok its installing.. i'll see if i can select it
[07:26] <snadge> the problem is if i change it to greek, i wont know how to change it back to english
[07:26] <vn> get google translator ready
[07:26] <snadge> vn: did you switch to ahci after installing ubuntu.. or before?
[07:27] <snadge> my guess is.. if grub wont load, chances are.. windows may not load either
[07:27] <alkisg> snadge: alt+ctrl+t gives you a terminal, and from there run LANG=en_US.UTF-8 gnome-language-selector
[07:28] <vn> snadge: it was set to ahci and I was trying desesperately to get it to boot after install, tried from jaunty to precise
[07:28] <vn> then I fiddled with bios settings and BANG, it was that one
[07:29] <snadge> seems odd to me.. check for a newer bios version
[07:33] <vn> I got the latest.
[07:33] <snadge> google for your motherboard and cant load grub and variations of that
[07:34] <snadge> see if you can find other people who have that issue
[07:34] <snadge> and ahci
[07:35] <snadge> alkisg: it was also greyed out here.. but i can drag it above english
[07:35] <snadge> and it becomes non greyed out
[07:36] <alkisg> snadge: ah, drag 'n' drop, I didn't think about that... thank you, let me try it...
[07:37] <snadge> it says.. every entry below "English" will be ignored
[07:38] <snadge> obviously english is the default.. if no translations are available
[07:38] <snadge> and it tries them in the order you specify, continuing if there are no translations for that preference
[07:39] <snadge> uninstalling greek ;)
[07:39] <alkisg> Thank you snadge, I'll logout to see if that's working. If that's by design though, the drag 'n' drop method is not intuitive, and also I don't know when it decided that greek was my second language (have 12.04 since before Christmas...)
[07:42] <snadge> i guess they changed it
[07:42] <vn> no luck so far on my issue...gotta sleep for now but in the meanwhile found a very interesting link...custom-made ESXi build for my setup :D
[07:42] <snadge> its only really an issue for people who install in english, and want to change it to something else afterwards
[07:42] <alkisg> snadge: I installed in greek
[07:43] <vn> I meant for ahci thingy
[07:43] <snadge> presumably if you installed in greek now.. it wouldn't have that problem.. they've updated the language stuff, and its defaulted back to english.. for whatever reason.. annoying, but not really a bug as such.. unless updating from 11.10, reverts to english
[07:44] <snadge> that might upset a few foreigners ;)
[07:45] <alkisg> Hope that's what it is, it wouldn't be a big problem then, just a bad interface (the drag 'n' drop thing, up+down arrows would be a hint to the user)
[07:58] <alkisg> Hmmm after reboot it didn't work, with logout it did. Now my .dmrc contains Language=el_GR.utf8 instead of Language=el_GR.UTF-8. That "utf8" vs "UTF-8" problem happened in 10.04 too :-/
[07:59] <alkisg> (with other symptoms, serious again)
[08:04] <alkisg> Alt+Ctrl+T doesn't launch a terminal for me... Using gnome-shell, and "Alt+Ctrl+T" is properly assigned to "Launch a terminal" in the keyboard properties of gnome-control-center. Any idea why?
[08:07] <alkisg> Oh and I can't type Greek now. Great, same story as in 10.04 with the switch to gdm2. :-/
[08:24] <snadge> sounds like a gnome issue
[08:24] <snadge> lightdm is anti greek ;)
[08:25] <snadge> might be best to hang out in here.. someone who deals with the language stuff might be able to fix it
[08:25] <snadge> if not.. open up a launchpad issue and wait 50 years for it to maybe get fixed ;)
[08:26] <snadge> you obviously have a workaround for it.. which is good, for you.. but yeah.. its not fixed
[08:26] <snadge> can you select language in lightdm?
[08:28] <alkisg> snadge: lightdm refused to integrate language selection
[08:28] <alkisg> It should be done inside the session, it claims
[08:29] <snadge> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/666565
[08:29] <snadge> you're obviously aware of that issue.. its still not listed as "closed" though
[08:30] <snadge> set to "wontfix" because its apparently a glibc issue
[08:30] <snadge> typical example of something broken in ubuntu.. thats still broken ;)
[08:32] <alkisg> They've reached the same won'tfix decision 2 years ago
[08:32] <alkisg> Then they saw that they were wrong and switched back to UTF-8
[08:32] <alkisg> And now the same issue again and again :(
[08:32] <alkisg> It becomes tiring after a few releases, to have the same issues solved + reappearing in the next release
[08:45] <alkisg> And still `setupcon` isn't called for text consoles, after many many bug reports and patches submitted :-/
[08:46] <fre3bird> i have an ALC892 soundcard that is not being recognized by pangolin beta.  can anyone lend a hand ?
[09:00] <fre3bird> is alc 892 supported in a fully updated pangolin ?
[09:00] <fre3bird> it had worked previously in 11.10 then it stopped working for no reason at all.
[09:01] <alkisg> fre3bird: what's its pci id?
[09:01] <alkisg> lspci -nn -k will tell you
[09:01] <fre3bird> one second
[09:01] <alkisg> Or just check "kernel drivers in use" there
[09:01] <alkisg> If it's using a kernel driver, it's supposedly supported
[09:02] <alkisg> If it's not, you might be missing a module
[09:02] <fre3bird> 00:1b.0
[09:02] <alkisg> Something like : [197b:2381]
[09:02] <fre3bird> [8086:1c20] (rev 05)
[09:02] <alkisg> Right
[09:02] <alkisg> And kernel drivers in use?
[09:02] <fre3bird> unsure what that means
[09:03] <alkisg> 00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller [8086:293e] (rev 03)
[09:03] <alkisg> 	Subsystem: CLEVO/KAPOK Computer Device [1558:072f]
[09:03] <alkisg> 	Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
[09:03] <alkisg> That last line there
[09:03] <alkisg> "Kernel drivers in use"
[09:03] <alkisg> Do you see that line?
[09:03] <alkisg> $ grep 1c20 /lib/modules/3.2.0-18-generic-pae/modules.pcimap
[09:03] <alkisg> snd-hda-intel        0x00008086 0x00001c20 0xffffffff 0xffffffff 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x0
[09:04] <alkisg> So yeah your card is supposedly supported by the snd-hda-intel  module
[09:04] <alkisg> Can't you see the outputs with alsamixer?
[09:04] <fre3bird> not for that device
[09:05] <fre3bird> there is no alsamixer in my pangolin beta updated fully
[09:05] <alkisg> There's no /usr/bin/alsamixer?
[09:06] <fre3bird> nope
[09:06] <alkisg> Hmm weird, $ dpkg -S /usr/sbin/alsamixer
[09:06] <alkisg> dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /usr/sbin/alsamixer.
[09:06] <alkisg> Ah sorry typo: $ dpkg -S /usr/bin/alsamixer
[09:06] <alkisg> alsa-utils: /usr/bin/alsamixer
[09:06] <alkisg> OK, install alsa-utils then
[09:06] <alkisg> Just to check if it alsa can see your card
[09:06] <fre3bird> dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /usr/sbin/alsamixer.
[09:06] <alkisg> Not sbin, bin
[09:07] <alkisg> sudo apt-get install alsa-utils
[09:07] <fre3bird> no such file or directory
[09:07] <fre3bird> will do
[09:08] <fre3bird> has newest version
[09:08] <alkisg> Err you have alsa-utils but not alsamixer?
[09:08] <alkisg> Check for typos, you're doing something wrong
[09:08] <fre3bird> that is correct
[09:09] <alkisg> Just type: alsamixer
[09:09] <alkisg> What does it say?
[09:09] <fre3bird> cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[09:09] <alkisg> So you do have that
[09:09] <fre3bird> updatedb locate alsamixer ?
[09:09] <alkisg> No
[09:10] <alkisg> There's no need to locate it, you already ran it
[09:10] <snadge> unity works quite nicely on a crappy atom netbook with 1024x600 resolution ;)
[09:10] <fre3bird> it has never run
[09:10] <alkisg> fre3bird: you already run alsamixer and it said: (11:09:22 πμ) fre3bird: cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[09:10] <alkisg> We don't care about updatedb, just about the output of alsamixer
[09:10] <alkisg> Which tells us that alsa doesn't see your card
[09:10] <fre3bird> ok
[09:10] <fre3bird> ok
[09:11] <alkisg> Now, you didn't answer the question about the "kernel drivers in use" above
[09:11] <alkisg> Let me ask it again:
[09:11] <fre3bird> kernel drivers were not in use
[09:11] <alkisg> Ah, ok
[09:11] <alkisg> Now try: lsmod|grep snd_hda_intel
[09:11] <alkisg> Do you see any output?
[09:13] <fre3bird> may i paste 6 lines ?
[09:13] <alkisg> I don't see traffic in the channel, so go ahead as far as I'm concerned
[09:13] <fre3bird> snd_hda_intel          33773  0
[09:13] <fre3bird> snd_hda_codec         127669  1 snd_hda_intel
[09:13] <fre3bird> snd_pcm                97188  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec
[09:13] <fre3bird> snd                    78855  8 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
[09:13] <fre3bird> snd_page_alloc         18529  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
[09:14] <alkisg> So to sum up, your kernel supports your card, the driver is loaded, and yet it's not in use?!
[09:14] <fre3bird> i cannot figure that out.
[09:15] <alkisg> Paste the output of this command, to verify it:    lspci -nn -k | grep -A3 Audio
[09:15] <fre3bird> 00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller [8086:1c20] (rev 05)
[09:15] <fre3bird> 	Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel
[09:15] <fre3bird> 00:1c.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 1 [8086:1c10] (rev b5)
[09:15] <fre3bird> 	Kernel driver in use: pcieport
[09:16] <fre3bird> and volume mixer in pangolin doesn't see it
[09:16] <alkisg> No wonder, if the driver is not in use
[09:16] <alkisg> What's the output of uname -r  ?
[09:16] <fre3bird> is it possible to fix ?
[09:17] <fre3bird> 3.2.0-18-generic
[09:17] <alkisg> And the output of this?   grep 1c20 /lib/modules/3.2.0-18-generic/modules.pcimap
[09:18] <fre3bird> snd-hda-intel        0x00008086 0x00001c20 0xffffffff 0xffffffff 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x0
[09:19] <alkisg> OK, I don't know what's wrong. Your kernel supports the card, the driver is loaded, but not in use. Maybe `dmesg` has some info about what goes wrong, but I don't think I know enough to help you.
[09:19] <fre3bird> your an expert sound debugger but i am clueless
[09:19] <fre3bird> thank you
[09:19] <alkisg> You're welcome
[09:19] <fre3bird> i appreicate all you have tried to help me with
[09:20] <alkisg> You could also file a bug in launchpad about it, sounds like one
[09:20] <fre3bird> ok
[09:20] <fre3bird> it also applies to 11.10 but it used to work just fine
[10:25] <trippeh> Hmm. It would be nice if the network manager split dns stuff in Precise would work with not just vpn, but ethernet too.
[10:57] <UrB> well that was weird, laptop crashed and after reboot language was chinese
[10:58] <UrB> and now it still insists listing zh_CN.utf8 & zh_SG.utf8 in the locales
[10:59] <Logi> I'm having a problem with python-numpy on 12.04 updated today. This import line from a setup.py script for netcdf4-python fails: "from numpy.distutils.core  import setup, Extension", and it worked nicely on debian testing, ubuntu 11.10 and an earlier update of 12.04
[11:00] <Logi> I'm beginning to think that something went wrong in the python packages recently?
[11:03] <tokarbol> I need some help to find the cause of bug #956848
[11:03] <Logi> If I add "/usr/share/pyshared" to PYTHONPATH, then that import is OK, but it complains "ImportError: No module named multiarray" on an import in "/usr/share/pyshared/numpy/core/__init__.py"
[11:05] <tokarbol> it's like my homedir should be created when I use pam_mkhomedir.so, right?
[11:06] <tokarbol> actually should I put there that it affects pam?
[11:06] <tokarbol> I am also a bit suspicious as of dbus behaviour with other things.
[11:07] <tokarbol> Does anybody know if there is something really wrong(TM) going on with it?
[11:18] <topyli> i wonder if it's possible to start evolution mail and calendar in express mode by default
[11:18] <topyli> especially the calendar, as started from the gnome shell's clock applet
[11:23] <trippeh> UrB: I rebooted today and it turned norwegian ;)
[12:30] <Logi> So, my ramblings from earlier about python-numpy have become #956901
[12:39] <UrB> trippeh: seriously speaking, little googling revealed this has happened before to others - slight irritating as the language choice is then in chinese too
[12:39] <UrB> +ly
[12:41] <UrB> http://ubuntu.5.n6.nabble.com/ubuntu-got-set-in-some-unknown-asian-language-td4358136.html - not sure what triggered my chinese excursion :)
[12:41] <UrB> only had english and finnish languages installed
[12:51] <Logi> I ended up installing python-numpy_1.6.1-5_amd64.deb from debian/exprimental and stuff works again.
[13:08] <dsdale> Morning folks. Lately when I do an "apt-get dist-upgrade", apt-get downloads, unpacks and prepares the updates, but when it begins setting up packages, it exits with a message like "Errors were encountered while processing nux-tools_2.6.0-0ubuntu1.amd64". I can do "dpkg --configure -a" to recover, but I have to run it every time I do an upgrade. Any ideas what may be wrong, and how to fix it?
[13:28] <cordoval> hi how to upgrade, is it dangerous?
[13:28] <cordoval> i need git latest version
[14:08] <dave1010> can I update from 11.04 directly to 12.04? "update-manager-d" is only showing 11.10
[14:09] <genii-around> dave1010: You can only skip intermediate releases if you are going LTS->LTS
[14:09] <dave1010> ah, ok. thanks genii-around
[14:10] <genii-around> dave1010: No prob
[14:10] <arand> However this is usually not enabled until some time after release, I think
[14:10] <dave1010> ok. I'll update to 11.10, then 12.04 I guess
[14:45] <neyder_> hi! installing 40+ precise machines in a school, i crazy i know!
[14:45] <neyder_> i'm crazy ...
[14:49] <Daekdroom> neyder_, too crazy.
[14:49] <Daekdroom> Are they going to need those machines anytime before Precise is released?
[14:52] <neyder_> yes, because school year has started two weeks ago, and i have a mixed panorama with windows, lucid, fedora, maverick. a crazyness!  so i'll prepare a long two year deployement with this beta installation. i hope you can help me when is possible
[15:10] <hifi> Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: gtk-widgets.css:1561:14: Not using units is deprecated. Assuming 'px'.
[15:10] <hifi> my gtk theme is incompatible with gtk3 or something?
[15:13] <zniavre> hifi you should rewrite it keep an eyes on ambiance theme or adwaita to see the diffs
[15:13] <hifi> what package had the ambiance theme?
[15:13] <hifi> I don't really mind switching my gtk theme as long as I can see something again
[15:14] <hifi> right, light-themes
[15:14] <hifi> aptitude didn't catch it when searching for ambiance
[15:25] <wcchandler> anybody failing to fetch libgl1-mesa-glx?  Just getting connection failed when updating
[15:27] <hifi> woo, got it working
[15:28] <hifi> next challenge is to configure pulseaudio correctly
[15:43] <encrypt> hi, ive been without wireless for a while, Networkm
[15:44] <encrypt> NetworkManager is not working, and when opening Network in gnome-control-services a dialog pops up saying that network services are not compatible with this version
[15:48] <encrypt> can anybody pls assist..
[15:49] <spacebug-> encrypt: seems like you haven't got alla packages updated or something
[15:49] <spacebug-> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:50] <encrypt> how to run an upgrade without wireless...
[15:50] <encrypt> dont have wired connection, have tried with iwconfig commands, with no luck so far
[15:51] <encrypt> now working with the live-usb!!
[15:52] <encrypt> btw, is there a way to upgrade packages from the live version?
[15:52] <spacebug-> hum..
[15:53] <encrypt> mounting the partition and logging in as root, then try to update from cli??
[15:53] <spacebug-> well you need internet connection to be able to upgrade or a cd-image from internet with upgrades
[15:55] <encrypt> i have internet connection, but dont have access from the mounted distro, (cause Nm is not working)
[15:55] <encrypt> in other words, im using a network i hacked whose owner doesnt care about its security
[15:56] <spacebug-> you could do: sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255    (if your on that network for example)
[15:56] <spacebug-> and eth0 is your device :P
[15:56] <encrypt> for a wep network?
[15:57] <encrypt> wlan1, but that applies the same
[15:57] <encrypt> its usb wireless
[15:58] <spacebug-> oh I was thinking about if you had a wired also
[15:58] <spacebug-> only wireless?
[15:59] <spacebug-> you could boot from a live cd that is compatible with your wireless if you have that, then download latest dayly build image or the beta 1 and use that to install
[16:00] <spacebug-> or if you have aother computer that has connecntion that you could use to get the image
[16:01] <encrypt> the usb wireless been working fine since i acquired it, fully compatible, all this started with upgrading with 12.04
[16:01] <spacebug-> ok
[16:02] <encrypt> i have another distro in a separate partition, but dont wanna let the ubuntu one hanged in the middle of nowhere
[16:03] <encrypt> format the partition??
[16:03] <spacebug-> what does NetworkManager --version give you?
[16:06] <encrypt> cant check it right now as im using the live version, but apparently is working (its got an id when i run it) but not showing any network
[16:06] <spacebug-> ok
[16:06] <encrypt> and the applet not showing either
[16:06] <spacebug-> you could run it with --log-level=INFO or DEBUG to get more info about what is happening
[16:07] <encrypt> ok
[16:11] <encrypt> how can i create a text in terminal in a specific folder, with cat?
[16:12] <itaylor57> encrypt, cat <file> > /path/to/dir/somefile.txt
[16:12] <encrypt> yep, thats what i asked thanks
[16:13] <itaylor57> encrypt, could do the same using mv file /path/to/dir
[16:13] <itaylor57> encrypt, could do the same using mv file /path/to/dir/newfilename
[16:15] <encrypt> itaylor and then writing the text after executing the command? cat is more useful for this i guess, just want to write down some commands to later access them
[16:18] <Walther> Hmm. Somehow I can't get audio anymore through my Xonar
[16:18] <Walther> lspci shos the device but sound settings doesn't
[16:20] <spacebug-> encrypt: you can use echo if you dont have an editor. echo "my little command row" >> myfile
[16:20] <spacebug-> encrypt: you can use echo if you dont have an editor. echo "my next command" >> myfile
[16:20] <itaylor57> spacebug-, thanks i was about to say that
[16:21] <encrypt> cli is faster than firing up gedit or whatever!
[16:22] <Walther> nano <3
[16:23] <Walther> WARNING:softwarecenter.db.update:The file: '/usr/share/app-install/desktop/kde-telepathy-send-file:kde4__ktp-send-file.desktop' could not be read correctly. The application associated with this file will not be included in the software catalog. Please consider raising a bug report for this issue with the maintainer of that application
[16:23] <Walther> Interesting.
[16:24] <encrypt> gonna check this thing and will be back - im also impressed how fast is the live version!
[16:57] <aboSamoor> can anyone help me with this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/953714?
[17:18] <ccmonster> hey guys, went to 12.04 yesterday, everything was fine. Today did a sudo apt-get update and things went awry
[17:25] <encrypt> scpacebug-
[17:26] <encrypt> spacebug-: no luck with all the checkings, the issue is with nm-applet, networkmanager shows no error
[17:27] <encrypt> pls some help with an internet connection issue, otherwise will have to format the partition cause cant run any upgrade!
[17:27] <spacebug-> encrypt: hum ok
[17:28] <encrypt> spacebug- this is the output of some commands
[17:28] <encrypt> sudo NetworkManager --log-level=DEBUG
[17:28] <encrypt> NetworkManager is already running (pid 941)
[17:29] <encrypt> NetworkManager --version 0.9.3.995
[17:29] <spacebug-> you have to kill that instance first
[17:29] <spacebug-> ok same version as I have
[17:29] <encrypt> and is always running in the background
[17:30] <encrypt> the issue comes when i run nm-applet, have checked with gconf-editor and the box is checked (to show it as an indicator
[17:31] <spacebug-> hum
[17:32] <encrypt> it says some bluff about px deprecated with non-sense gtk and what not (when running nm-applet)
[17:32] <spacebug-> nm-applet runs nice here so I'm not sure what has happend to your machine
[17:34] <encrypt> don't know if this comes from running several desktop packages (ubuntu-desktop on top of xubuntu 11-10 upgraded to 12.04)
[17:34] <encrypt> anyway..
[17:35] <encrypt> only hope left is iwconfig
[17:35] <zorael> Does GNOME3 or Unity reparse .desktop files upon merely opening the applications menus?
[17:37] <encrypt> spacebug-: can u pls pls provide some CLI to connect to a wireless network with WEP encryption with iwconfig??
[17:37] <encrypt> have gathered all this info about the network:
[17:37] <spacebug-> encrypt: sorry that is more than I know :/
[17:37] <encrypt> Address: 00:18:39:8E:6F:7A
[17:37] <encrypt> Channel:6
[17:37] <encrypt> Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6)
[17:37] <encrypt> Quality=35/70  Signal level=-75 dBm
[17:37] <encrypt> Encryption key:on
[17:37] <encrypt> ESSID:"ALBIR"
[17:37] <encrypt> Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s
[17:37] <encrypt> Bit Rates:6 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s; 24 Mb/s
[17:37] <encrypt>           36 Mb/s; 48 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s
[17:37] <spacebug-> for wireless I have only used nm-applet
[17:38] <encrypt> no worries
[17:39] <spacebug-> that though should be planty of people knowing in #ubuntu since that is not 12.04 specific
[17:40] <encrypt> ok, will take a last shot before re-installing
[18:00] <jbwiv> anyone know of an alternative launcher/dock/etc which will work with Ubuntu2D?
[18:00] <spacebug-> cairo-dock
[18:01] <spacebug-> can be run both with and without 3d-support
[18:03] <jbwiv> spacebug-, great. thanks
[18:03] <spacebug-> yw
[18:03] <Belial`> anyone having problems with ayatana scrollbars in 12.04?
[18:04] <Belial`> like, not being able to grab them. they seem to disappear when you mouse over them.
[18:04] <spacebug-> is that the overlaying ones?
[18:05] <Belial`> yeah, overlay
[18:05] <Belial`> it only seems to do it on gtk3 apps.
[18:05] <Belial`> gtk2 apps are working fine.
[18:06] <spacebug-> have not tried that enough and currently I'm running gnome-fallback session so can't test either
[18:06] <spacebug-> can test later on my laptop running 12.04 also
[18:07] <Belial`> ok
[18:07] <Belial`> there's also some graphical glitches in the dashboard.
[18:08] <Belial`> and if you're running the top panel with transparency, there seems to be some glitches after a recent update.
[18:08] <Belial`> those are some things i've noticed so far.
[18:08] <spacebug-> hum ok..
[18:08] <spacebug-> *starting up my laptop*
[18:09] <genii-around> < imagines the whine of a jet engine when spacebug- does that >
[18:09] <spacebug-> probably have to update the laptop first also.. was a few days since I last had it running
[18:09] <spacebug-> hahaha
[18:10] <Belial`> before you update it, check the dash
[18:10] <spacebug-> ok
[18:10] <Belial`> and then do the update
[18:10] <Belial`> it should happen afterwards.
[18:11] <spacebug-> nothing strange so far with dash or scrollbars..updating now..
[18:31] <spacebug-> ok Belial` it's upp and running. No problems here though
[18:31] <Belial`> odd
[18:32] <spacebug-> there has not been any updates to your graphic card?
[18:32] <spacebug-> should not have anything to do with the scrollbars though but maybe that flicker you had or what ever
[18:34] <Belial`> not that i've noticed.
[18:34] <Belial`> i do know it didn't happen when i first installed 12.04 beta 1.
[18:34] <Belial`> after a round of updates yesterday, or the day before, i can't remember, but that's when it started.
[18:35] <Belial`> the scrollbars have been acting up since i installed the beta 1 iso
[18:47] <Guest4059> hey guys, i accidently had 'proposed' checked and did an update, things went wacky. I removed 'proposed', went to re-update and now I'm getting a failed update with a 'hash sum' mismatch
[18:48] <Daekdroom> Guest4059, 'proposed' doesn't contain any updates during the development phase.
[18:48] <Guest4059> so when I do a sudo apt-get update this morning, when 'proposed' was checked, there were 100+ updates
[18:49] <iceroot> Guest4059: proposed is a bad idea
[18:49] <Daekdroom> There tends to be a lot of updates during alpha and beta.
[18:49] <iceroot> Guest4059: specially for 12.04
[18:49] <Daekdroom> iceroot, regardless, there is no packages in proposed.
[18:49] <Guest4059> yea, that's what I realized because everything started going wacky
[18:50] <topyli> oh yay the vlc browser plugin has arrived
[18:50] <Guest4059> when I unchecked proposed, there were then again, about 100+ packages that wanted to re download/update
[18:50] <Daekdroom> Or atleast there shouldn't be, given we're during development, so updates don't need to be tested before.
[18:50] <Daekdroom> Because Beta is for testing.
[18:50] <Guest4059> that's when the failed hash sum mismatch occurred
[18:51] <Guest4059> any way to get past my hash sum mis match and get those 100 packaged installed
[18:52] <Guest4059> W: Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_main_binary-amd64_Packages
[18:57] <bhb192> I'm having issues with dconf, is anybody available to help?
[18:59] <valdur55> !help > bhb192
[19:03] <bhb192> Several keys in the gsettings schema org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.media-keys are not being recognized by glib/gsettings, but are visible in dconf-editor. How can I get gsettings to recognize these keys so that gnome-settings-daemon can use them?
[19:04] <bhb192> !patience
[19:07] <topyli> i'm also having trouble with keyboard shortcuts, but haven't yet been bothered enough to look at it closely
[19:07] <bhb192> Is it causing your gnome-settings-daemon to crash?
[19:10] <Guest4059> should precise unsupported be checked in synaptic?
[19:14] <bhb192> Do you mean in software sources?
[19:16] <jbicha> topyli: currently in Precise, System Settings' keyboard shortcuts panel only sets gconf keys but GNOME Shell only listens to gsettings
[19:25] <topyli> jbicha: ahh that explains it. i'll do it properly then, and all is good. thanks :)
[19:39] <FernandoMiguel> evening
[20:28] <captbunzo> hello folks. I've just installed the 12.04 beta and have a few questions
[20:29] <captbunzo> first, the unity-greeter seems to be ignoring the setting in the config file to change the desktop background. perhaps am I missing something?
[20:31] <jbicha> captbunzo: just a guess, but I'd try com.canonical.unity-greeter in dconf-editor
[20:31] <trism> captbunzo: the unity-greeter settings have moved to gsettings, so you need to use vendor overrides or somehow modify the settings in dconf for lightdm
[20:32] <captbunzo> ok. I'll look into that. thanks :)
[20:32] <jbicha> ah, overrides, that's fun
[20:32] <captbunzo> next question... I have two monitors and seem to get the dash bar on the left side of both.
[20:32] <captbunzo> any way to configure that for just one monitor?
[20:33] <captbunzo> I should note I only got 1 in 11.10
[20:33] <trism> captbunzo: http://www.burtonini.com/blog/computers/gsettings-override-2011-07-04-15-45 walks you through the first option, I haven't found a good way to work out the second option
[20:34] <captbunzo> is it fine to change the values via dconf-editor?
[20:35] <jbicha> captbunzo: like trism said, that probably won't do any good for unity-greeter since it's not running as your account
[20:35] <captbunzo> ah. I getcha
[20:35] <jbicha> captbunzo: the launcher is on the left of all monitors and that isn't currently configurable, it's a Feature
[20:35] <captbunzo> lol
[20:36] <captbunzo> I tried my other Feature tweak, which was to disable the menuproxy. that seemed to make things go wrong.
[20:36] <captbunzo> the system tray icons on the right side of the top bar disappeared.
[20:37] <jussi> glosoli: icon task manager is in 12.04, yes
[20:38] <jussi> glosoli: mind, smooth tasks is kind of similar and is in the older versions also
[20:38] <FernandoMiguel> captbunzo: also look at ccsm
[20:38] <captbunzo> also, the launcher doesn't seem to auto-hide any more when I have an app full screen. is that another Feature?
[20:38] <captbunzo> cheers FernandoMiguel
[20:38] <glosoli> jussi, hmm ok :)
[20:41] <jbicha> captbunzo: yes, but that's configurable in System Settings>Appearance>Behavior
[20:41] <captbunzo> out of curiosity, what do you guys think of the default background for the unity greeter?
[20:43] <FernandoMiguel> meh
[20:44] <FernandoMiguel> but I have auto login and boot in 8 sec
[20:44] <captbunzo> I think it's pretty horrid...
[20:44] <FernandoMiguel> so I don't stand there a lot of time
[20:45] <captbunzo> there are a nice collection of backgrounds in the distribution and that's the one?
[20:45] <captbunzo> but yeah, I don't stay there long either
[20:45] <FernandoMiguel> I love my desktop wallpapre
[20:45] <FernandoMiguel> and its from the pack
[20:46] <captbunzo> which one do you use?
[20:47] <captbunzo> ah... appearance setting... auto-hide the launcher :)
[20:48] <FernandoMiguel> the grass one with the lake
[20:48] <FernandoMiguel> and at work I have the digital cubic lion
[20:48] <captbunzo> nice. there are some great ones in the pack.
[20:48] <captbunzo> I'm not a fan of the second, though.
[20:48] <captbunzo> I'm using a rather plain, but pretty, blue vertical lines one now (from the pack)
[20:52] <captbunzo> hmmnn.. that was a fail.
[20:53] <captbunzo> ah... strings must be quoted
[20:58] <captbunzo> nice. got my login screen customised :)
[20:59] <captbunzo> anyone know much about UBUNTU_MENUPROXY?
[20:59] <captbunzo> in 11.10 I could set that to 0 to get an app to nicely put it's menus in the right place....
[20:59] <captbunzo> urm, I mean to keep the menus with the app instead of sticking them all up in the top bar.
[21:00] <captbunzo> but when I tried that with 12.04 it made all the icons in the "system tray" disappear (i.e. the sound one, network one, logout one, etc)
[21:00] <captbunzo> any thoughts?
[21:01] <captbunzo> ah, existing reported bug.
[21:05] <Guest97370> my 12.04 system is shaky today after an update, and now when I try to update im getting an error saying it cant fetch a package
[21:07] <Guest97370> Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[21:07] <Guest97370> Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[21:07] <Guest97370> what can I do to get it all figured out.
[21:10] <captbunzo> nice ... menus back in the right place by removing the indicator-appmenu package :)
[21:11] <spacebug-> was just about to write that hehe
[21:13] <captbunzo> don't get me wrong, I love ubuntu :)
[21:13] <captbunzo> but I completely fail to understand how moving the menu for an app AWAY from the app could get past usability considerations.
[21:13] <spacebug-> first thing I do also is to remove that package
[21:14] <spacebug-> I could maybe understand for small screens like tablets but not for desktops
[21:15] <st1> because it's easier to throw mouse pointer to the edge of the screen instead of focus to a tiny menu bar?
[21:15] <captbunzo> except you still have to aim
[21:15] <captbunzo> i.e. at a specific menu
[21:16] <captbunzo> lol.... chrome needs a unity theme :)
[21:16] <st1> easier to aim when I don't have to confine myself to 18px height
[21:16] <spacebug-> st1: on my  2560x1600 pixels monitor having piding to the right, having to click the app to get it in front then move the mouse all the way to the top left of screen to get add user menu.. that is insane
[21:16] <spacebug-> ;)
[21:17] <spacebug-> pidgin*
[21:17] <captbunzo> yep spacebug. I'm right there. I've got two 22 inch monitors, each 1920x1080. I just want the darn menu to be in the right place! :)
[21:18] <st1> spacebug-:  I don't know your window placement though :)  I just mean I can see why it's useful
[21:18] <spacebug-> captbunzo: its even crazyer on this 30" I tell you hehe
[21:18] <spacebug-> st1: hehe ok
[21:18] <captbunzo> indeed. I can imagine :)
[21:18] <st1> anyone else having that update problem?
[21:19]  * captbunzo needs to find a way to grow his boot partition
[21:21] <spacebug-> I know a freeware windows app that can do that but not sure about linux apps
[21:21] <captbunzo> I am sure I can sort it eventually.
[21:21] <captbunzo> I installed BURG and it's taken up a bit too much space.
[21:21] <spacebug-> BURG?
[21:21] <captbunzo> prettier then grub though.
[21:21] <captbunzo> yeah, it's a wrapper for grub that.... isn't ugly :)
[21:25] <cobra-the-joker> Hey guys ... using kubuntu 12.04 here ... bluetooth seems to be on but not working ( no send or recieve or even seen on other devices ) ... any help ?
[21:27] <spacebug-> not using kubuntu or any blutooth device but have it been working in 11.10 ?
[21:27] <cobra-the-joker> spacebug-: nope
[21:27] <spacebug-> oh
[21:28] <spacebug-> you might find something in /var/log/syslog or with the command dmesg
[21:29] <st1> where is the infograph showing how many bugs fixed and waiting to be? I remember seeing one in december
[21:29] <spacebug-> there is a graph about that? ^^
[21:30] <st1> I think I saw that on reddit
[21:31] <st1> someone even mentioned development being slow because thanksgiving and christmas
[21:34] <cobra-the-joker> spacebug-: http://paste.org/46908 ... tahts the output of "cat /var/log/syslog | grep blue"
[21:37] <spacebug-> seems like it is up and running ..
[21:38] <cobra-the-joker> spacebug-: hmmm then ?
[21:38] <spacebug-> donno
[22:12] <spacebug-> I wounder how many bugs will be fixed for the final release
[22:15] <DropsOfSerenity> i can't press alt tab anymore, or alt-f2 why not?
[22:17] <spacebug-> I also got that after en update
[22:17] <spacebug-> and other stuff
[22:18] <ironhalik> DropsOfSerenity: did you fiddle with CCSM, and the hud shortcut somehow?
[22:19] <DropsOfSerenity> ironhalik, yeah i changed the hud shortcut to F! because it was interfering with a fullscreen game
[22:19] <DropsOfSerenity> F1
[22:29] <spacebug-> back again.. now who did I just talk to about alt+tab ?
[22:33] <spacebug-> anyhow I filed a new bug about the alt+tab not working. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/957489  press affect me if it does
[22:38] <DropsOfSerenity> spacebug-, it works when hud is assigned to alt
[22:38] <DropsOfSerenity> spacebug-, doesn't work when i change it
[22:38] <DropsOfSerenity> the problem with hud being assigned to alt, is that in fullscreen applications or games, shortcuts requiring the alt key will not work
[22:38] <spacebug-> I have also disabled alt for HUD
[22:39] <spacebug-> maybe I should but that in the bug report
[22:40] <spacebug-> so there
[22:45] <spacebug-> DropsOfSerenity: not the bugreport is what it should?
[22:45] <spacebug-> now*
[22:45] <DropsOfSerenity> spacebug-, i'll check it out in a sec.
[22:45] <spacebug-> ok
[23:08] <MaximLevitsky> I need your help!
[23:09] <MaximLevitsky> I just did an update (last update was about week ago) and I got package problem that I suspect will render my system unusable
[23:11] <MaximLevitsky> First I got this: http://pastebin.com/hDL4qK6a
[23:12] <MaximLevitsky> I don't know what is inside these packages exactly, but its bound to be glibc related...
[23:12] <spacebug-> try: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:13] <MaximLevitsky> Now, apt-get -f install dies with this: E: Internal Error, No file name for libc6
[23:13] <spacebug-> what are you trying to upgrade from?
[23:13] <MaximLevitsky> 12.04, slightly older version
[23:13] <MaximLevitsky> I already use it for long time
[23:14] <spacebug-> oh
[23:14] <spacebug-> well try updating again
[23:15] <spacebug-> I have also got dependencies problems some times.. later on they haveuploaded the new packages to the server and everything is good
[23:15] <MaximLevitsky> Yep, its known
[23:15] <jtaylor> you can also try to install the libc-bin directly with dpkg
[23:16] <MaximLevitsky> sudo apt-get upgrade -f appears to work
[23:23] <KM0201> man, this is driving me crazy... i'm trying to set up forked-daapd.conf.. it starts and stops fine, but it never sees my share... the directory is RIGHT.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/887096/
[23:27] <KM0201> weird.. i must have started/stopped forked-daapd 20x, but i just rebooted the server, and it's working fine now.
[23:28] <itaylor57> KM0201, i was just about to take a look lol
[23:28] <KM0201> lol
[23:28] <KM0201> ok, well, now thats done, i gotta get ready for work
[23:29] <KM0201> see ya'll later
[23:29] <WilsonBradley> work?
[23:29] <WilsonBradley> LAte shift :-(
[23:43] <Pru> Does anyone know why Flash wont work on Facebook?
[23:44] <Pru> Similar to this screenshot - http://askubuntu.com/questions/16732/facebook-and-flash-why-doesnt-facebook-recognise-that-i-have-flash-installed
[23:56] <mylenthes> Hello
[23:57] <spacebug-> hi
[23:57] <spacebug-> Pricey: do you have flashplugin-installer installed?
[23:57] <Pricey> spacebug-: WHy do you ask?