RAOFHm.  Apparently this unity-greeter that works fine on intel will fail to log in on my netbook.  Superb.00:39
TheMusoRAOF: If thats NVIDIA and you are using Nouveau, thats even more interesting, since I am using Nouveau here without issue.00:42
RAOFOh, it's my locally-built trunk version that's aiming to fix the transition from greeter->session.00:43
RAOFAh.  I appear to not have gnome-session installed on the netbook.  That would explain failure-to-login :)00:56
cyphermoxsup all.02:04
akgranerDoes the icon with the Ubuntu symbol on it have a specific name?02:29
akgraneror do I just say click the icon with the Ubuntu symbol on it in the launcher and type "terminal" to bring up a term window?02:30
TheMusoakgraner: The tooltip for the button is "Dash Button".02:32
TheMusoSO I guess that could be used.02:32
akgranerTheMuso, awesome thanks!  I didn't know what to call it :-)02:33
TheMusoakgraner: Sorry, its "Dash Home" not "Dash Button"02:34
akgranerno worries - changing it now02:35
akgranerThanks TheMuso , I'm working on some edits to a command line chapter that are due in a couple of hours - and I realized I still have some place holders for things :-/ so hopefully I won't bug you all to much :-)02:36
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jasoncwarner_hey guys...anyone getting this error when trying to upgrade right now? E: Internal Error, No file name for libc604:38
RAOFjasoncwarner_: Didn't hit that when I updated this morning...04:46
jasoncwarner_RAOF: I just started getitng it maybe an hour ago...I updated this morning as well...04:46
TheMusoHaven't seen any suc error, at least in my terminals.04:47
TheMusoI also updated this morning.04:48
jasoncwarner_thanks, TheMuso and RAOF ... just got my laptop back from being repaired and I want to update, but I can't :/04:53
* RAOF has additionally been able to update right now, and not run into that problem.04:56
* TheMuso is doing likewise.05:02
* jasoncwarner_ scratches head....05:03
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jasoncwarner_RAOF or TheMuso any thoughts on this? This is the specific error I'm getting. I tried the -f option, but that is when I get the message about libc605:13
jasoncwarner_The following packages have unmet dependencies:05:13
jasoncwarner_ lib32asound2 : Depends: libasound2 (=
jasoncwarner_ libc-dev-bin : Depends: libc6 (< 2.14) but 2.15-0ubuntu5 is installed05:13
jasoncwarner_ libc6-dev : Depends: libc6 (= 2.13-24ubuntu4) but 2.15-0ubuntu5 is installed05:13
jasoncwarner_ libc6-i386 : Depends: libc6 (= 2.13-24ubuntu4) but 2.15-0ubuntu5 is installed05:13
jasoncwarner_ libnih-dbus1 : Depends: libnih1 (= 1.0.3-4ubuntu9) but 1.0.3-4ubuntu5 is installed05:13
jasoncwarner_ libnih1 : Depends: libc6 (< 2.15) but 2.15-0ubuntu5 is installed05:13
jasoncwarner_E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.05:13
TheMusojasoncwarner_: Interesting that you have lib32asound2 installed... I wonder if that problem you have is a multi-arch related problem...05:15
jasoncwarner_TheMuso: any way to find out, or should I talk to steve L about it?05:16
TheMusojasoncwarner_: I am just speculating, I really don't know from teh above, I just saw references to i3866/32-bit.05:16
jasoncwarner_thanks, TheMuso I'll poke steve and see if he knows...otherwise I'll ask pitti when he gets up...pitti knows all ;)05:17
RAOFHm.  You seem to have quite an old libc6 installed.05:18
RAOFActually, no.05:20
RAOFWhat the devil is going on there?05:20
jasoncwarner_RAOF: I have no idea. This machine was in the shop for a month05:40
jasoncwarner_so...it could be quite old. I was using a diff machine for a month and am now just getting this one updated05:40
jasoncwarner_didn't htink it would be this hard ;)05:40
RAOFYeah, you *don't* actually have an old libc, but it looks like it's trying to install an old libc6-dev.  For some reason.05:41
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jasoncwarner_RAOF TheMuso I don't know what I did..but I eventually got it to update06:29
jasoncwarner_I really have no idea what made it go06:29
pittiGood morning06:31
pittijasoncwarner_: still having trouble?06:32
jasoncwarner_hey pitti06:32
jasoncwarner_no, I don't think so06:32
jasoncwarner_I got it updated, have latest unity and compiz06:32
jasoncwarner_I literally have no idea why it got fixed ;)06:33
bryceh/var/log/dpkg.log might be illuminating06:37
pittidoctor appointment, bbl07:09
pittibonjour seb12808:42
pittiseb128: nice bug work!08:42
seb128pitti, hey, pitti, wie gehts?08:42
pittiseb128: quite fine, thanks08:42
seb128pitti, did I get my second position back? ;-)08:42
pittispent too much time on pygobject upstream yesterday, so I didn't get to distro bug fixing08:42
pittiseb128: yes08:42
seb128well I didn't fixed much but I was only 2 behinds I think08:43
seb128I spent some time improving a bit versions yesterday08:43
seb128pitti, btw I signed your key but the emails sending failed because I don't have postfix or similar working08:43
seb128pitti, but you should be able to --recv-key08:44
pittihm, I did, says "unchanged"08:44
seb128pitti, it sent to pool.sks-keyservers.net08:45
seb128that's maybe not the right server to use08:45
pittitried that one now, still no new sigs08:46
pittitry gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --send-key 26B47B9F ?08:46
seb128pitti, your key is 26B47B9F right?08:46
seb128pitti, done08:46
pittihm, still nothing08:47
pittiseb128: could you check "gpg --list-sigs martinpitt@gnome.org" ?08:47
seb128let me retry to sign08:47
seb128yeah, seems it's no08:47
seb128caff was a fail08:47
pittiseb128: seahorse has a GUI for this08:47
seb128let me redo it ;-)08:47
pittiseb128: right, caff doesn't send to keyservers08:47
seb128hey chrisccoulson, how are you?08:50
seb128pitti, right, I did send but it seems it didn't sign08:50
chrisccoulsonhi seb128, i'm good thanks. how are you?08:50
pittihey chrisccoulson08:51
chrisccoulsonhi pitti :)08:51
seb128pitti, maybe I shouldn't have exited gpg with "q" once it was done signing08:51
seb128chrisccoulson, good, thanks! ;-)08:51
tjaaltonare the window management buttons supposed to be on the right or left side by default? going back to the default switched them to the right here08:51
seb128going back to defaults where?08:52
seb128the editor doesn't understand overrides08:52
seb128bug in the editor I guess08:52
seb128use gsettings reset08:52
seb128pitti, --recv-key again?08:54
pittihmm, still nothing08:55
pittiseb128: it might take a while before the updated keys are available, perhaps the servers run some checks or so08:55
pittiseb128: anyway, thank you!08:55
tjaaltonseb128: same thing with gsettings reset08:55
seb128pitti, yeah, check in a bit, this time --list-sigs show my signatures, so it's likely server delay08:56
tjaaltongsettings reset org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences button-layout08:56
seb128tjaalton, dunno then, question for didrocks, he will be there on monday08:56
tjaaltonseb128: ok08:56
seb128pitti, yw!08:56
pittiseb128: any luck with the libical FTBFS?09:12
seb128pitti, I was sort of waiting for Debian they have an RC bug for it, I hate wasting time to track something when we can get the fix for free by waiting 3 days09:12
pittiseb128: ah, that's fine09:13
seb128de rien09:13
seb128pitti, I will look at it on monday if nobody moved in Debian by then09:13
pittimhr3: good morning09:33
mhr3hey pitti09:34
pittimhr3: could you please have a quick look at http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/canonical-desktop-team-ubuntu-12.04-beta-2.html#mhr3 and check if these two are still on track for b2?09:34
BigWhaleI'll be so sad when Precise is out... No more daily upgrades that are 100+ MB ... Always fun. :)09:34
pittimhr3: if not, we can move them to final, as they don't seen feature/code related09:34
pittiBigWhale: don't worry, there will be the quarreling quail to upgrade to09:35
mhr3pitti, will check the first, should be done afaik, as for the second we did have a chat about it, so i guess it's finished? :)09:36
pittimhr3: splendid :)09:36
pittichrisccoulson: "Add a restart-required banner to Firefox when any plug-in is upgraded", is that still for P?09:37
pittiSweetshark: FYI, I took the liberty to update https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-p-libreoffice-packaging a bit09:39
pittiseiflotfy: hey Seif, how are you?09:42
pittiseiflotfy: would you mind having a quick look at http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/canonical-desktop-team-ubuntu-12.04-beta-2.html#seif and tell me what we should postpone to Q?09:42
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seiflotfypitti: i would love to work on quicklists now10:28
seiflotfybut i need some1 to talk to10:29
pittiseiflotfy: I suppose at this point there's also quite some restrictions due to feature/UI freeze in ubuntu10:29
seiflotfythe ppl and disable logging stuff needs to be postponed10:29
pittidoesn't stop upstream work, of course10:29
seiflotfypitti: no worries i don' care when it gets in as long as it gets in10:29
pittiseiflotfy: what is "ppl"?10:30
seiflotfypeople lens10:30
pittiseiflotfy: so "Add ability to disable reading the db (but not logging)" -> deferred10:30
seiflotfypitti its more complicated as you think10:31
pittiseiflotfy: thanks, I updated the BP accordingly10:31
pittiseiflotfy: just want to make sure that we don't postpone/drop anythign which you aren't happy about10:32
pittiargh, seb128 keeps fixing bugs, and I'm stuck with unbreaking the archive10:41
seb128pitti, ;-)10:42
* pitti hugs seb128, keep up the great work!10:42
* seb128 hugs pitti10:42
seb128kamstrup, mhr3: do you know if the zg code in rhythmbox is something that we should activate by default? it's not at the moment11:01
mhr3seb128, i actually wanted to ask didrocks if there's a reason the dataproviders aren't active by default11:02
mhr3seb128, although rb is not going to help much, we're not using that data anywhere by default11:02
kamstrupseb128, mhr3: I've been running with the RB provider enabled for some time. It works pretty well, but I think it pollutes the recent files list somewhat11:02
mhr3seb128, gedit should be active though afaict11:02
seb128mhr3, ok, I was not sure if it would be useful for the music lens or something11:02
kamstrupmhr3: the songs you play are added11:03
kamstrupvisible in the files lens11:03
kamstrupnot the ones it skips to automatically11:03
seb128hum, yeah,that's not good11:03
kamstrupbut if you skip forward 10 songs yourself11:03
kamstrupit adds those 10 songs11:03
mhr3kamstrup, oh... right i forgot it's "clever"11:03
kamstrupeven though you only heard 2s of each11:03
kamstrupI think it makes sense11:03
mhr3kamstrup, we'll have a proper rb scope, so we dont need them afaict11:03
kamstrupit should just only send the event if you hear more than say 75% of the song11:04
seb128kamstrup, I'm unsure, I would say it shouldn't add anything to the files lens from within rb11:06
seb128only files you clicked on11:06
seb128kamstrup, mhr3: what about gedit?11:06
mhr3seb128, is it active by default? i see it off here, but maybe that's just me11:07
seb128mhr3, yes it is, I just checked in a guest session, I guess it's user profiles not being changed on upgrade11:08
seb128so we are good11:08
mhr3k, then it's fine, thx11:08
Sweetsharkpitti: saw it, thanks11:09
Sweetsharkpitti: libreoffice-3.5.1-1ubuntu1 incoming today.11:16
pittiSweetshark: yay -- does it add back the three missing armhf packages?11:17
Sweetsharkoh, hmm, no it doesnt.11:18
Sweetsharkat debian, armel armhf powerpc powerpcspe ppc64 s390x are still not building LO base ...11:22
Sweetsharkpitti: I would need to try if these base thingies even build on armhf, Id suggest to upload 3.5.1-1ubuntu1 with them still missing. I will then try to build it on a builder box.11:31
pittiSweetshark: ah, fair enough; I can also just remove these three binaries from the archive11:38
pittiSweetshark: ^ so I guess I'll do that now?11:44
pittiSweetshark: also, please ping me when you have the upload ready11:44
pittiSweetshark: actually, -base, -evolution, -base-core _did_ build in 1:3.5.0-1ubuntu411:45
pittiSweetshark: just 1:3.5.0-2ubuntu1 dropped them11:45
pittiSweetshark: and they did build for armel, too11:46
pittiSweetshark: so it ought to be fine to re-enable them11:46
Sweetsharkpitti: yes, please remove the binaries.11:52
pittiSweetshark: so they built, but might not actuall work?11:52
Sweetsharkyes, I know we did build them. But I dont want to send an upload into the build there (quite a lot happened upstream between 3.5.0 and .1). But yes, they might work.11:53
Sweetsharks/into the build/into the blind/11:54
tkamppeterpitti, hi11:55
pittiSweetshark: ack, removing for now then11:56
pittihey tkamppeter11:56
pittiSweetshark: done11:56
tkamppeterpitti, I got a lot of texttopdf fixes from upstream so I will release cups-filters 1.0.6 soon. So a Ubuntu/Debian upload will most probably happen on Monday. Is this OK? When is b2 freeze?11:57
pittitkamppeter: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule - March 22, so next Thursday11:58
pittitkamppeter: NB that I'm off sick Monday, I get my other two wisdom teeth pulled11:58
tkamppeterpitti, OK, thanks, so np with the upload.11:58
pittiI'll be around early morning to do some sponsoring11:58
pittibut I can sponsor on Tuesday11:58
tkamppeterpitti, OK.11:59
pittitkamppeter: alternatively, commit it to Debian VCS and do a -0bzr1 upload to Ubuntun only11:59
tkamppeterpitti, OK, thanks.11:59
desrtgood morning hackers12:10
pittiit's a desrt!12:17
* ogra_ feels thursty now12:19
pittiogra_: you and your beer desserts!12:20
* desrt brings ogra_ water?12:20
pittiit's Friday past one o'clock, and he's a German; he won't accept water12:20
dupondjewater, isnt that for fishes to swim in ?12:21
desrtis the 1:00 rule just so that germans don't get _totally_ sloshed at lunch?12:21
desrtor do you mean 1:00am? :)12:21
ogra_dupondje, yeah, and they make love in it too !12:21
ogra_who would drink that !12:21
dupondjetrue! :) belgian beer ! :D12:22
mvoseb128: hi, I guess I should know this ;) bug how do I make the retracer trace #956316  ? it has "apport-bug" as its tag already, do I need to add something like "needs-retrace"?12:23
dupondjewe are almost at bug 1000000 :)12:23
desrtmvo: is a PPA involved?12:24
pittimvo: needs-$arch-retrace, i. e. needs-amd64-retrace12:24
pittimvo: also, they sohuld be apport-crash, not -bug12:24
pittimvo: ah, nevermind, this is broken anyway12:24
pittimvo: it has a .crash attachment, it wasn't actually sent as a crash report12:25
pittiso the retracer can't process this anyway12:25
seb128back from lunch12:26
mvothanks, I will ask for apport-collect this12:26
seb128hey mvo, desrt12:26
mvobut apparently its a huge file12:26
seb128mvo, apport-collect will not help you12:26
mvodesrt: no ppa involved12:26
mvoseb128: oh :/12:26
seb128mvo, you can download the file and apport-retrace or unpack it locally12:26
desrtseb128: good morning12:27
seb128mvo, or ask the submitter to ubuntu-bug it12:27
Sweetsharkpitti: thx12:29
mvoseb128: so my submitter gets "Your computer does not have enough free memory to automatically analyse the problem and send a report to the developers." :/12:36
ogra_buy more ram !12:36
seb128mvo, download the file he added and gdb on it locally?12:37
pittiyou can run apport-retrace -R --gdb <that crash file>12:43
seb128desrt, "fun" hud bug, bug #95687812:44
ubot2`Launchpad bug 956878 in indicator-appmenu "HUD is sending 2 menu signals instead of 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95687812:44
seb128desrt, I guess it's on the unity side, hud-gtk doesn't have the issue12:46
desrtlet me see if i can reproduce that under unity12:48
desrtwhat's the new hotkey to open the overview in unity these days?12:49
seb128desrt, overview?12:50
desrtsorry.  the lenses12:50
seb128desrt, super as always?12:50
desrtwindows key, right?12:51
seb128desrt, well it opens the dash, super-a, super-f, etc12:51
seb128for the app, file lens12:51
seb128desrt, right12:51
desrtso that's working now, but it doesn't work immediately after login12:51
seb128desrt, does nautilus render your background?12:51
seb128known bug12:52
desrti was thinking that was the problem12:52
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seb128cyphermox, hey, how are you?13:22
cyphermoxseb128: not bad, you?13:25
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cr3hi folks, the mouse is excruciatingly slow after starting ubuntu. against which project should I run ubuntu-bug?13:27
seb128cr3, try #ubuntu-x13:27
cr3seb128: it might be related to something other than x though, like I see this in powertop:13:28
cr323.4 ms/s     2194.8       Interrupt      [45] i91513:28
cr3where 2194.8 is the number of events per second, but I don't know whether that's really such a high number or not13:28
seb128cr3, dunno, doesn't seem desktopish in any case13:29
cr3seb128: I'll check with #ubuntu-x then. cheers!13:37
pittikenvandine: good morning13:47
seb128kenvandine, RUN13:47
pittiam I so terrifying? :-)13:48
kenvandinewhat's up pitti?13:48
seb128the pitti workitems garbage collector is on you :p13:48
pittikenvandine: so, I wondered whether we could drop indicator-applet's dependency on gnome-panel13:48
* kenvandine should look at his workitems13:48
chrisccoulsonnice, new home page in firefox: http://i.imgur.com/tTeHb.png13:48
seb128pitti, you can punt the informal "talk to jason about talking to GNOME about release cycle" which is on my list, it's not linked to the Ubuntu cycle in any wya13:48
chrisccoulsonit's a shame that we miss out on this :(13:49
kenvandinepitti, why?13:49
pittihttp://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/canonical-desktop-team-ubuntu-12.04-beta-2.html#ken-vandine just has one blocked one, so no worries13:49
seb128chrisccoulson, is there anything which stops us to do something similar?13:49
kenvandineindicator-applet was just fixed to work with the new gnome-panel13:49
seb128chrisccoulson, waouh they got ride of the 2 bars after all?13:49
chrisccoulsonseb128, we'd need to  have our own branded offline content13:49
pittikenvandine: it's the least evil solution I see to bug 95493913:49
ubot2`Launchpad bug 954939 in indicator-applet "Xubuntu 10.04 to 12.04 upgrade installs unity and gnome" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95493913:49
pittikenvandine: but I'm all ears for better proposals13:49
* kenvandine looks13:50
chrisccoulsonseb128, oh, i didn't notice that. i don't think that's the default atm. i think that's only on the UX branch13:50
seb128chrisccoulson, ok13:50
pittiseb128: while we are at it, do you want to keep the other two "talk to" items for b2?13:50
pitti(still two weeks to go, so plenty of time)13:50
seb128pitti, cf what I a wrote to you 2 minutes ago ;-)13:51
pittiseb128: sorry, I didn't see you saying anything aobut the two others13:52
kenvandinepitti, indicator-applet is only for gnome-panel13:52
seb128pitti, unsure about the second one, it's hard to get anything done in Debian, we could just rename dconf to dconf-not-what-you-want and d-conf to dconf in Ubuntu?13:52
kenvandineso dropping the depends would just be dropping the applet completely13:52
seb128pitti, 2 others?13:52
seb128pitti, well the "talk to jason" can be dropped from w.i13:52
pittikenvandine: understood, but conceptually shouldn't the dependency be rather the other way around?13:52
seb128pitti, what do you think about renaming dconf in ubuntu?13:52
pittiseb128: "talk to debian about renaming epiphany and dconf"13:52
pittiseb128: "talk to design,dx what to do for applications that expose a menu and an application menu (the new ones exported by gmenu)"13:52
kenvandinei think it would be fine to drop the depends13:53
seb128pitti, that dx one is DONE13:53
pittikenvandine: i. e. there should be a gnome-classic or whatever package which pulls in the panel, the indicator-applet, and other bits13:53
seb128pitti, for some weeks13:53
pittiseb128: whoops, right13:53
seb128pitti, so, wdyt, renaming dconf in Ubuntu?13:53
seb128I will try asking on #debian-gnome again, they were talking about it13:53
seb128but things can take a while in Debian13:54
kenvandinepitti, technically it really depends on the panel, but it actually isn't the way people are going to install it13:54
pittiseb128: hm, that would get us out of sync for both dconf and d-conf, and it's not an user-facing package13:54
kenvandinethey will only want it if they already have the panel13:54
kenvandineso seems safe to me13:54
pittikenvandine: right, but I don't think the way to get the classic session is to install indicator-application, is it?13:54
kenvandinewe should check with jbicha13:54
pittiwouldn't that be gnome-session-fallback ?13:55
pittiwhich depends on -panel13:55
pittikenvandine: I wonder what pulls in indicator-application right now13:55
kenvandinejbicha polished that stuff up so it worked nicely with the classic panel13:55
kenvandinepitti, indicator-applet does13:55
kenvandinei bet13:55
seb128kenvandine, pitti: indicator-application is pulled it by indicator-applet and unity iirc13:56
pittikenvandine: sorry, that's what I meant13:56
kenvandineso if the gnome classic pulls in gnome-panel it should pull in the applet to13:56
pittiso, AFAICS the problem is not that gnome-panel doesn't get installed13:56
pittias it's a direct dependency of gnome-session-fallback13:56
pittiso we don't need to depend on it in indicator-application13:56
kenvandineso dropping the gnome-panel depends should be safe13:56
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pittiand it wouldn't pull in the whole gnome and unity stack just because you install one indicator13:57
pittikenvandine: ok, that's what I thought13:57
* kenvandine will make it happen13:57
pittikenvandine: thanks for cross-checking!13:57
pittikenvandine: ah, you want to? ok13:57
kenvandinesure, i have the branch handy13:58
* pitti checks http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/bug-fixing/canonical-desktop-team-precise-fixes-report.html13:58
pittiack, it's all your's :-P13:58
pittionce you get close, I'll upload such things right away and steal the trophy :)13:58
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dobeyhrmm, requestsync is confusing14:36
desrtseb128: how do i become a 'bug supervisor'?15:04
seb128desrt, you ask to bdmurray on #ubuntu-bugs I guess15:06
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hallynis *this* the right place to ask about the scrollbar?15:11
hallyn(being unclickable)15:11
cyphermoxhallyn: +1, yes, I think it probably is :)15:12
cyphermoxhallyn: but perhaps the best is to file a bug :)15:12
cyphermoxhallyn: by the way, you weren't dreaming things when wifi was acting up yesterday, we found some issues with libnl waiting for data15:13
hallynyay :)15:13
hallyncyphermox: file a bug against what exactly?15:13
cyphermoxhallyn: just a seconf15:13
desrtjbicha: you are too late :p15:14
cyphermoxhallyn: overlay-scrollbar15:14
jbichawow, people come and go so quickly around here15:14
hallyncyphermox: thanks, will do that15:14
desrtseb128: so is it appropriate to assign this dbus message spam bug as a beta2 milestone?15:14
desrtwhat are the implications of me doing that?15:15
desrti cause some annoyance to the release team if i don't fix it on time?15:15
hallyn(filed bug 957054)15:17
ubot2`Launchpad bug 957054 in overlay-scrollbar "scrollbar disappears before i can click to drag it" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95705415:17
seb128desrt, that's ok, they will just move target if it's not done15:17
pittiyes, we have a script to mass-move old milestones15:17
seb128hallyn, it's a dup of bug #94941415:17
ubot2`Launchpad bug 949414 in gtk "Some GTK+3 events are not emitted when using a touchpad (but are with a mouse)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94941415:17
desrtaww?  i don't have the ability to single-handedly delay the entire release? :)15:17
* desrt pretends that he does anyway as extra motivation to fix it15:18
seb128desrt, ;-)15:20
hallynseb128: grrr.  thanks15:27
seb128hallyn, yw15:27
seb128hallyn, bug #956062 as well which was the most recent bug reported on overlay-scrollbars before yours15:28
ubot2`Launchpad bug 956062 in overlay-scrollbar "Impossible to catch scrollbar with touchpad in unmaximized nautilus windows" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95606215:28
hallynnot 100% sure i agree with 'medium', but i guess bug priorities aren't based on the amount of hair i pull out :)15:28
hallynok, thanks, then i'll carry on15:28
seb128hallyn, it's specific to some devices, doesn't happen with a mouse, but yeah, don't stop at the settings they don't reflect really how actively things are tracked15:28
seb128hallyn, btw it would be good to check open bugs before you report a new one ;-)15:29
hallynnone of the ones it showed me based on its guesses were it15:29
seb128hallyn, like the most recent bug on overlay-scrollbar has a title pretty similar to yours, how did you miss it?15:29
hallynthe gt3 one, i would never have guesed based on the title15:29
seb128right, but overlay-scrollbar has a least 2 bugs about it in the most recent 5 bugs15:30
seb128open the list, check recent bugs, it's not that hard ;-)15:30
hallynseb128: bc i count on lp to give me the suspected dups15:30
hallynthat, and bc it was mixed in with 3-4 bugs yesterday that made my laptop unusable (super key not working, etc)15:30
seb128hum, k, that doesn't work great indeed :-(15:30
seb128hallyn, did you fix the super key issue?15:31
hallyni thought it worked better than it apparently does15:31
hallyni didn't fix it, it just started working this morning15:31
hallynso i expect it to fail after next reboot :(15:31
seb128hallyn, it doesn't work if you are on an empty workspace15:31
seb128hallyn, or if nautilus doesn't display the background15:31
seb128hallyn, did you turn nautilus handling of the background off?15:31
hallynwh...  uh, that's deemed a bug i hope?15:31
seb128there you go15:31
seb128yes, known issue15:32
hallynok, just wanted to make sure it's deemed an issue15:32
seb128you are just on a non standard, non testing config15:32
seb128non tested15:32
hallynsomeone's gotta do it :)15:32
seb128i.e you tweak hidden options you are on your own ;-)15:32
seb128imho we need to start talking about reducing the number of option for next cycle15:32
hallynlaptop's too slow, i think that's why i turned it off15:32
seb128we have too many bugs because people tweak random crackful things15:32
hallynhey!  i stuck to 100% things i can set with myUnity15:33
seb128well, still too much, see it broke your super key :p15:33
hallyni thought iw as being good :)15:33
hallyntrue dat15:33
seb128it's hard to cover all possible option combinaison15:33
hallynok, thanks.  never would've guessed.  so maybe i'll turn that back on15:33
hallyn(i'll avoid talking about how 15 years ago i could map keys to whatever i wanted, as well as suspend and resume and make my own bread :)15:34
hallynthanks, ttyl.15:34
pittichrisccoulson: defaults-builder currently uses ./usr/lib/firefox-addons/distrib15:52
pittierk, let's try this again15:52
chrisccoulsonpitti - oh, yes. we need to move that :)15:52
pittichrisccoulson: defaults-builder currently uses /usr/lib/firefox-addons/distribution/distribution.ini15:52
pittichrisccoulson: I suppose that needs to move to /usr/lib/firefox/distribution/distribution.ini now?15:52
chrisccoulsonyeah, it does. sorry, i was going to propose a merge for that ;)15:52
pittichrisccoulson: the former was a workaround path while we had the version specific firefox paths, right?15:52
pittichrisccoulson: np, doing now15:53
pittibug 956899, FTR15:53
ubot2`Launchpad bug 956899 in ubuntu-defaults-builder "Regression: firefox bookmarks not imported anymore" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95689915:53
chrisccoulsonpitti - yeah, the former was just a workaround. i've moved the whole installation location now :)15:54
pittichrisccoulson: is that planned to be done in SRUs, too?16:00
pittithis would be tricky, as it would break existing defaults pacakges16:00
chrisccoulsonpitti - sort of. i've made an exception for the oneiric package to leave the distribution.ini file where it is though16:01
pittimterry: hey Mike, how are you?16:06
pittimterry: do you have some time to check the patch in bug 944035 and sponsor this?16:06
ubot2`Launchpad bug 944035 in ibus "pinyin not listed by default on a fresh installation" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94403516:06
mterrypitti, yeah, I know I didn't reply to bug, but I was going to look at it today16:07
mterrypitti, I saw the fedora patch, was reviewing it16:07
mterrypitti, I don't think it will require an FFe like the commenter does?  Seems just like a bug fix (though a bit of a hefty patch)16:07
mterryoh, hm... it does at least change UI...16:16
pittimterry: well, a bit, but I really consider it a bug16:19
pittiit's quite useless by default righ tnow16:19
pittiand that used to work AFAIR16:19
pittimterry: thanks for looking at this!16:19
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mvohm, where does gnome-settings stores the proxy info (http proxy) these days?17:16
seb128mvo, org.gnome.system.proxy.http17:17
seb128mvo, gsettings get org.gnome.system.proxy.http host ''17:17
seb128mvo, gsettings get org.gnome.system.proxy.http host17:17
mvoseb128: ok, I don't get it, I set it to "manual" and http://localhost, but  gsettings get org.gnome.system.proxy.http enabled says false?17:18
seb128mvo, enabled is deprecated17:19
seb128host = '' is no proxy == disabled17:19
mvoaha, ok17:19
seb128if there is a value it's enabled17:19
pittigood night everyone, have a nice weekend!17:39
pittiFTR, I'll be off for most of Monday, getting my remaining two wisdom teeth pulled17:40
pittiI'll be online in the morning for doing some patch piloting, though17:40
kenvandinepitti, have a great weekend17:41
chrisccoulsonheh - http://goo.gl/Y9qaM17:57
kenvandinechrisccoulson, i love it :)18:03
dobeyman. internet memes are so lame now18:07
* Sweetshark cant get into chinstrap18:21
* Sweetshark can get into chinstrap18:26
Sweetsharkpitti: good luck with the teeth stuff!18:27
Sweetsharkpitti: 3.5.0-1ubuntu1 uploading to chinstrap btw18:27
desrtmy apartment is burning down again18:32
desrtor perhaps not...18:32
micahgSweetshark: I assume you meant 3.5.1-1ubuntu1?18:33
chrisccoulsondesrt, oh, that sounds quite serious18:34
chrisccoulsonperhaps someone in your apartment is building libreoffice?18:34
desrtthe alarm bell sounded18:35
desrtbut only for a moment18:35
Laneymaybe it melted18:35
desrtthat seems unlikely18:35
desrtit's just over there...18:35
jbichachrisccoulson: that was nice & quick to get the Firefox 11 SRU out already :)18:36
chrisccoulsonjbicha, micahg was involved too ;)18:36
micahgjbicha: was actually on the slower side unfortunately (not due to chrisccoulson, he was plenty fast)18:37
chrisccoulsonjbicha, also, we have the next beta available already: https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-next/18:38
chrisccoulsonfor precise too ;)18:38
jbichachrisccoulson: I'll probably have to add that PPA, stable Firefox is too boring18:38
chrisccoulsonyeah, you should do :)18:38
Sweetsharkmicahg: indeed18:42
Sweetsharkmicahg, chrisccoulson, desrt: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNnAvTTaJjM libreoffice building soundtrack18:43
jbichachrisccoulson: oh FF12 is still pending publication to the PPA, I guess I'll wait a few more minutes18:44
seb128hey jbicha, how are you?18:44
seb128jbicha, how is the feedback on the new shell? ;-)18:44
jbichaseb128: not too much feedback, maybe people didn't notice yet? Cinnamon's broken but the Mint devs apparently don't care yet so neither do I18:47
desrtjbicha: it's awesome :D18:47
seb128I can see the news18:47
desrtseb128: i think anyone who is running gnome-shell on precise was running it out of the PPA already.... so no big change for most people18:47
seb128"Ubuntu breaks Mint to try to get users back"18:47
desrtseb128: is there a known bug with not being able to add new favourites to the unity panel?18:49
seb128desrt, launcher you mean? the left bar?18:50
seb128no, and works for me18:50
seb128what did you do?18:50
desrtit's never worked for me18:50
desrtand i've tried a lot of times with a lot of versions18:50
desrti do a search and then drag an icon18:50
desrtit even says "Drop to add application" when i hover the bar18:50
desrtbut nothing happens18:50
seb128if you run an app, right click on the launcher icon and pick "lock..."18:51
seb128does it work?18:51
seb128i.e does it stay after you close the app?18:51
desrtthanks :)18:51
seb128but the dnd should be working, it works for me18:51
jbichaJava apps don't pin to the launcher18:51
desrthow do i change the position of the icon?18:51
seb128desrt, dnd18:51
desrtit seems to move the entire launcher instead of just the icon18:52
kenvandinedesrt, drag out to the right a bit18:52
seb128desrt, either stay pressed for a second, iOS way18:52
seb128desrt, or go right18:52
desrtoh.  that works.18:52
desrtboth of those work18:52
topyliseb128: the shell 3.90 in universe tends to crash. i downgraded to a ppa version myself in order to get anything done :)18:52
seb128jbicha, ^18:53
seb128topyli, universe should be basically the same as the ppa I think18:53
seb128ok, dinner time18:53
topylii know. somehow it crashes more eagerly. i'm running ~ubuntu3. 4 and 5 like to crash too18:53
seb128have a good w.e everybody for those I will not see again (no work tonight but I might let IRC on a bit while hacking)18:53
desrtseb128: hacking != work? :)18:56
desrtseb128: can you remind me what is the freeze for beta?18:57
ubot2`The Ubuntu Precise Pangolin release schedule can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule18:59
desrtconvenient.  thanks.18:59
desrtcrikey.  all of next week18:59
* desrt starts planning for all the things he can break in that time18:59
nessitahello all!!!19:00
desrtnessita: hello!19:00
nessitaseb128: may I ask a very quick favor from you?19:00
nessitaanyone with a non-english locale: would you please pastebin the content of your ~/ .config/user-dirs.dirs ?19:01
dobeynessita: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/xdg-user-dirs/+pots/xdg-user-dirs might help :)19:14
nessitadobey: looking!19:14
dobey文档 is "Documents" currently, in the simplified chinese translation :)19:16
seb128nessita, hey19:28
seb128nessita, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/886785/19:28
nessitaseb128: thanks!!!19:28
seb128nessita, yw19:28
seb128nessita, you can probably get the same by running LANG=fr LC_ALL=fr_FR.UTF-8 xdg-user-dirs-update19:29
nessitaseb128: did not know that, will take notes19:29
seb128nessita, you might need to --force if it does nothing19:31
nessitaseb128: yeap, thanks!19:31
seb128nessita, yw19:31
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