| RAOF | Hm. Apparently this unity-greeter that works fine on intel will fail to log in on my netbook. Superb. | 00:39 |
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| TheMuso | Awesome. | 00:42 |
| TheMuso | RAOF: If thats NVIDIA and you are using Nouveau, thats even more interesting, since I am using Nouveau here without issue. | 00:42 |
| RAOF | Oh, it's my locally-built trunk version that's aiming to fix the transition from greeter->session. | 00:43 |
| TheMuso | ah | 00:44 |
| RAOF | Ah. I appear to not have gnome-session installed on the netbook. That would explain failure-to-login :) | 00:56 |
| TheMuso | heh | 01:06 |
| cyphermox | sup all. | 02:04 |
| akgraner | Does the icon with the Ubuntu symbol on it have a specific name? | 02:29 |
| akgraner | or do I just say click the icon with the Ubuntu symbol on it in the launcher and type "terminal" to bring up a term window? | 02:30 |
| TheMuso | akgraner: The tooltip for the button is "Dash Button". | 02:32 |
| TheMuso | SO I guess that could be used. | 02:32 |
| akgraner | TheMuso, awesome thanks! I didn't know what to call it :-) | 02:33 |
| TheMuso | akgraner: Sorry, its "Dash Home" not "Dash Button" | 02:34 |
| akgraner | no worries - changing it now | 02:35 |
| akgraner | Thanks TheMuso , I'm working on some edits to a command line chapter that are due in a couple of hours - and I realized I still have some place holders for things :-/ so hopefully I won't bug you all to much :-) | 02:36 |
| TheMuso | np | 02:37 |
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| jasoncwarner_ | hey guys...anyone getting this error when trying to upgrade right now? E: Internal Error, No file name for libc6 | 04:38 |
| RAOF | jasoncwarner_: Didn't hit that when I updated this morning... | 04:46 |
| jasoncwarner_ | RAOF: I just started getitng it maybe an hour ago...I updated this morning as well... | 04:46 |
| TheMuso | Haven't seen any suc error, at least in my terminals. | 04:47 |
| TheMuso | I also updated this morning. | 04:48 |
| jasoncwarner_ | thanks, TheMuso and RAOF ... just got my laptop back from being repaired and I want to update, but I can't :/ | 04:53 |
| * RAOF has additionally been able to update right now, and not run into that problem. | 04:56 | |
| * TheMuso is doing likewise. | 05:02 | |
| * jasoncwarner_ scratches head.... | 05:03 | |
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| jasoncwarner_ | RAOF or TheMuso any thoughts on this? This is the specific error I'm getting. I tried the -f option, but that is when I get the message about libc6 | 05:13 |
| jasoncwarner_ | The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 05:13 |
| jasoncwarner_ | lib32asound2 : Depends: libasound2 (= 1.0.24.1-4ubuntu1) | 05:13 |
| jasoncwarner_ | libc-dev-bin : Depends: libc6 (< 2.14) but 2.15-0ubuntu5 is installed | 05:13 |
| jasoncwarner_ | libc6-dev : Depends: libc6 (= 2.13-24ubuntu4) but 2.15-0ubuntu5 is installed | 05:13 |
| jasoncwarner_ | libc6-i386 : Depends: libc6 (= 2.13-24ubuntu4) but 2.15-0ubuntu5 is installed | 05:13 |
| jasoncwarner_ | libnih-dbus1 : Depends: libnih1 (= 1.0.3-4ubuntu9) but 1.0.3-4ubuntu5 is installed | 05:13 |
| jasoncwarner_ | libnih1 : Depends: libc6 (< 2.15) but 2.15-0ubuntu5 is installed | 05:13 |
| jasoncwarner_ | E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f. | 05:13 |
| TheMuso | jasoncwarner_: Interesting that you have lib32asound2 installed... I wonder if that problem you have is a multi-arch related problem... | 05:15 |
| jasoncwarner_ | TheMuso: any way to find out, or should I talk to steve L about it? | 05:16 |
| TheMuso | jasoncwarner_: I am just speculating, I really don't know from teh above, I just saw references to i3866/32-bit. | 05:16 |
| TheMuso | gah | 05:17 |
| jasoncwarner_ | thanks, TheMuso I'll poke steve and see if he knows...otherwise I'll ask pitti when he gets up...pitti knows all ;) | 05:17 |
| RAOF | Hm. You seem to have quite an old libc6 installed. | 05:18 |
| RAOF | Actually, no. | 05:20 |
| RAOF | What the devil is going on there? | 05:20 |
| jasoncwarner_ | RAOF: I have no idea. This machine was in the shop for a month | 05:40 |
| jasoncwarner_ | so...it could be quite old. I was using a diff machine for a month and am now just getting this one updated | 05:40 |
| jasoncwarner_ | didn't htink it would be this hard ;) | 05:40 |
| RAOF | Yeah, you *don't* actually have an old libc, but it looks like it's trying to install an old libc6-dev. For some reason. | 05:41 |
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| jasoncwarner_ | RAOF TheMuso I don't know what I did..but I eventually got it to update | 06:29 |
| jasoncwarner_ | I really have no idea what made it go | 06:29 |
| pitti | Good morning | 06:31 |
| pitti | jasoncwarner_: still having trouble? | 06:32 |
| jasoncwarner_ | hey pitti | 06:32 |
| jasoncwarner_ | no, I don't think so | 06:32 |
| jasoncwarner_ | I got it updated, have latest unity and compiz | 06:32 |
| jasoncwarner_ | I literally have no idea why it got fixed ;) | 06:33 |
| bryceh | /var/log/dpkg.log might be illuminating | 06:37 |
| pitti | doctor appointment, bbl | 07:09 |
| seb128 | hey | 08:41 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128 | 08:42 |
| pitti | seb128: nice bug work! | 08:42 |
| seb128 | pitti, hey, pitti, wie gehts? | 08:42 |
| pitti | seb128: quite fine, thanks | 08:42 |
| seb128 | pitti, did I get my second position back? ;-) | 08:42 |
| pitti | spent too much time on pygobject upstream yesterday, so I didn't get to distro bug fixing | 08:42 |
| pitti | seb128: yes | 08:42 |
| seb128 | \o/ | 08:42 |
| seb128 | well I didn't fixed much but I was only 2 behinds I think | 08:43 |
| seb128 | I spent some time improving a bit versions yesterday | 08:43 |
| seb128 | pitti, btw I signed your key but the emails sending failed because I don't have postfix or similar working | 08:43 |
| seb128 | pitti, but you should be able to --recv-key | 08:44 |
| pitti | hm, I did, says "unchanged" | 08:44 |
| seb128 | pitti, it sent to pool.sks-keyservers.net | 08:45 |
| seb128 | that's maybe not the right server to use | 08:45 |
| pitti | tried that one now, still no new sigs | 08:46 |
| seb128 | hum | 08:46 |
| pitti | try gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --send-key 26B47B9F ? | 08:46 |
| seb128 | pitti, your key is 26B47B9F right? | 08:46 |
| pitti | oui | 08:46 |
| seb128 | pitti, done | 08:46 |
| pitti | hm, still nothing | 08:47 |
| pitti | seb128: could you check "gpg --list-sigs martinpitt@gnome.org" ? | 08:47 |
| seb128 | let me retry to sign | 08:47 |
| seb128 | yeah, seems it's no | 08:47 |
| seb128 | caff was a fail | 08:47 |
| pitti | seb128: seahorse has a GUI for this | 08:47 |
| seb128 | let me redo it ;-) | 08:47 |
| pitti | seb128: right, caff doesn't send to keyservers | 08:47 |
| chrisccoulson | whoop | 08:50 |
| seb128 | hey chrisccoulson, how are you? | 08:50 |
| seb128 | pitti, right, I did send but it seems it didn't sign | 08:50 |
| chrisccoulson | hi seb128, i'm good thanks. how are you? | 08:50 |
| pitti | hey chrisccoulson | 08:51 |
| chrisccoulson | hi pitti :) | 08:51 |
| seb128 | pitti, maybe I shouldn't have exited gpg with "q" once it was done signing | 08:51 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, good, thanks! ;-) | 08:51 |
| tjaalton | are the window management buttons supposed to be on the right or left side by default? going back to the default switched them to the right here | 08:51 |
| seb128 | going back to defaults where? | 08:52 |
| seb128 | no | 08:52 |
| tjaalton | dconf-editor | 08:52 |
| seb128 | the editor doesn't understand overrides | 08:52 |
| tjaalton | sigh | 08:52 |
| tjaalton | ok | 08:52 |
| seb128 | bug in the editor I guess | 08:52 |
| seb128 | use gsettings reset | 08:52 |
| tjaalton | ok | 08:53 |
| seb128 | pitti, --recv-key again? | 08:54 |
| pitti | hmm, still nothing | 08:55 |
| pitti | seb128: it might take a while before the updated keys are available, perhaps the servers run some checks or so | 08:55 |
| pitti | seb128: anyway, thank you! | 08:55 |
| tjaalton | seb128: same thing with gsettings reset | 08:55 |
| seb128 | pitti, yeah, check in a bit, this time --list-sigs show my signatures, so it's likely server delay | 08:56 |
| tjaalton | gsettings reset org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences button-layout | 08:56 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, dunno then, question for didrocks, he will be there on monday | 08:56 |
| tjaalton | seb128: ok | 08:56 |
| seb128 | pitti, yw! | 08:56 |
| pitti | seb128: any luck with the libical FTBFS? | 09:12 |
| seb128 | pitti, I was sort of waiting for Debian they have an RC bug for it, I hate wasting time to track something when we can get the fix for free by waiting 3 days | 09:12 |
| pitti | seb128: ah, that's fine | 09:13 |
| pitti | merci | 09:13 |
| seb128 | de rien | 09:13 |
| seb128 | pitti, I will look at it on monday if nobody moved in Debian by then | 09:13 |
| pitti | mhr3: good morning | 09:33 |
| mhr3 | hey pitti | 09:34 |
| pitti | mhr3: could you please have a quick look at http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/canonical-desktop-team-ubuntu-12.04-beta-2.html#mhr3 and check if these two are still on track for b2? | 09:34 |
| BigWhale | I'll be so sad when Precise is out... No more daily upgrades that are 100+ MB ... Always fun. :) | 09:34 |
| pitti | mhr3: if not, we can move them to final, as they don't seen feature/code related | 09:34 |
| pitti | BigWhale: don't worry, there will be the quarreling quail to upgrade to | 09:35 |
| mhr3 | pitti, will check the first, should be done afaik, as for the second we did have a chat about it, so i guess it's finished? :) | 09:36 |
| pitti | mhr3: splendid :) | 09:36 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: "Add a restart-required banner to Firefox when any plug-in is upgraded", is that still for P? | 09:37 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: FYI, I took the liberty to update https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-p-libreoffice-packaging a bit | 09:39 |
| pitti | seiflotfy: hey Seif, how are you? | 09:42 |
| pitti | seiflotfy: would you mind having a quick look at http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/canonical-desktop-team-ubuntu-12.04-beta-2.html#seif and tell me what we should postpone to Q? | 09:42 |
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| seiflotfy | pitti: i would love to work on quicklists now | 10:28 |
| seiflotfy | but i need some1 to talk to | 10:29 |
| pitti | seiflotfy: I suppose at this point there's also quite some restrictions due to feature/UI freeze in ubuntu | 10:29 |
| seiflotfy | the ppl and disable logging stuff needs to be postponed | 10:29 |
| pitti | doesn't stop upstream work, of course | 10:29 |
| seiflotfy | pitti: no worries i don' care when it gets in as long as it gets in | 10:29 |
| pitti | seiflotfy: what is "ppl"? | 10:30 |
| seiflotfy | people lens | 10:30 |
| pitti | seiflotfy: so "Add ability to disable reading the db (but not logging)" -> deferred | 10:30 |
| seiflotfy | yes | 10:30 |
| seiflotfy | pitti its more complicated as you think | 10:31 |
| pitti | seiflotfy: thanks, I updated the BP accordingly | 10:31 |
| pitti | seiflotfy: just want to make sure that we don't postpone/drop anythign which you aren't happy about | 10:32 |
| pitti | argh, seb128 keeps fixing bugs, and I'm stuck with unbreaking the archive | 10:41 |
| seb128 | pitti, ;-) | 10:42 |
| * pitti hugs seb128, keep up the great work! | 10:42 | |
| * seb128 hugs pitti | 10:42 | |
| seb128 | kamstrup, mhr3: do you know if the zg code in rhythmbox is something that we should activate by default? it's not at the moment | 11:01 |
| mhr3 | seb128, i actually wanted to ask didrocks if there's a reason the dataproviders aren't active by default | 11:02 |
| mhr3 | seb128, although rb is not going to help much, we're not using that data anywhere by default | 11:02 |
| kamstrup | seb128, mhr3: I've been running with the RB provider enabled for some time. It works pretty well, but I think it pollutes the recent files list somewhat | 11:02 |
| mhr3 | seb128, gedit should be active though afaict | 11:02 |
| seb128 | mhr3, ok, I was not sure if it would be useful for the music lens or something | 11:02 |
| kamstrup | mhr3: the songs you play are added | 11:03 |
| kamstrup | visible in the files lens | 11:03 |
| kamstrup | not the ones it skips to automatically | 11:03 |
| seb128 | hum, yeah,that's not good | 11:03 |
| kamstrup | but if you skip forward 10 songs yourself | 11:03 |
| kamstrup | it adds those 10 songs | 11:03 |
| mhr3 | kamstrup, oh... right i forgot it's "clever" | 11:03 |
| kamstrup | even though you only heard 2s of each | 11:03 |
| kamstrup | I think it makes sense | 11:03 |
| mhr3 | kamstrup, we'll have a proper rb scope, so we dont need them afaict | 11:03 |
| kamstrup | it should just only send the event if you hear more than say 75% of the song | 11:04 |
| kamstrup | right | 11:04 |
| seb128 | kamstrup, I'm unsure, I would say it shouldn't add anything to the files lens from within rb | 11:06 |
| seb128 | only files you clicked on | 11:06 |
| kamstrup | agreed | 11:06 |
| seb128 | kamstrup, mhr3: what about gedit? | 11:06 |
| mhr3 | seb128, is it active by default? i see it off here, but maybe that's just me | 11:07 |
| seb128 | mhr3, yes it is, I just checked in a guest session, I guess it's user profiles not being changed on upgrade | 11:08 |
| seb128 | so we are good | 11:08 |
| mhr3 | k, then it's fine, thx | 11:08 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: saw it, thanks | 11:09 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: libreoffice-3.5.1-1ubuntu1 incoming today. | 11:16 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: yay -- does it add back the three missing armhf packages? | 11:17 |
| Sweetshark | oh, hmm, no it doesnt. | 11:18 |
| Sweetshark | at debian, armel armhf powerpc powerpcspe ppc64 s390x are still not building LO base ... | 11:22 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: I would need to try if these base thingies even build on armhf, Id suggest to upload 3.5.1-1ubuntu1 with them still missing. I will then try to build it on a builder box. | 11:31 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: ah, fair enough; I can also just remove these three binaries from the archive | 11:38 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: ^ so I guess I'll do that now? | 11:44 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: also, please ping me when you have the upload ready | 11:44 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: actually, -base, -evolution, -base-core _did_ build in 1:3.5.0-1ubuntu4 | 11:45 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: just 1:3.5.0-2ubuntu1 dropped them | 11:45 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: and they did build for armel, too | 11:46 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: so it ought to be fine to re-enable them | 11:46 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: yes, please remove the binaries. | 11:52 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: so they built, but might not actuall work? | 11:52 |
| Sweetshark | yes, I know we did build them. But I dont want to send an upload into the build there (quite a lot happened upstream between 3.5.0 and .1). But yes, they might work. | 11:53 |
| Sweetshark | s/into the build/into the blind/ | 11:54 |
| tkamppeter | pitti, hi | 11:55 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: ack, removing for now then | 11:56 |
| pitti | hey tkamppeter | 11:56 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: done | 11:56 |
| tkamppeter | pitti, I got a lot of texttopdf fixes from upstream so I will release cups-filters 1.0.6 soon. So a Ubuntu/Debian upload will most probably happen on Monday. Is this OK? When is b2 freeze? | 11:57 |
| pitti | tkamppeter: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule - March 22, so next Thursday | 11:58 |
| pitti | tkamppeter: NB that I'm off sick Monday, I get my other two wisdom teeth pulled | 11:58 |
| tkamppeter | pitti, OK, thanks, so np with the upload. | 11:58 |
| pitti | I'll be around early morning to do some sponsoring | 11:58 |
| pitti | but I can sponsor on Tuesday | 11:58 |
| tkamppeter | pitti, OK. | 11:59 |
| pitti | tkamppeter: alternatively, commit it to Debian VCS and do a -0bzr1 upload to Ubuntun only | 11:59 |
| tkamppeter | pitti, OK, thanks. | 11:59 |
| desrt | good morning hackers | 12:10 |
| pitti | it's a desrt! | 12:17 |
| * ogra_ feels thursty now | 12:19 | |
| pitti | ogra_: you and your beer desserts! | 12:20 |
| * desrt brings ogra_ water? | 12:20 | |
| ogra_ | lol | 12:20 |
| pitti | it's Friday past one o'clock, and he's a German; he won't accept water | 12:20 |
| desrt | :) | 12:20 |
| dupondje | water, isnt that for fishes to swim in ? | 12:21 |
| desrt | is the 1:00 rule just so that germans don't get _totally_ sloshed at lunch? | 12:21 |
| desrt | or do you mean 1:00am? :) | 12:21 |
| ogra_ | dupondje, yeah, and they make love in it too ! | 12:21 |
| dupondje | lol | 12:21 |
| ogra_ | who would drink that ! | 12:21 |
| dupondje | true! :) belgian beer ! :D | 12:22 |
| mvo | seb128: hi, I guess I should know this ;) bug how do I make the retracer trace #956316 ? it has "apport-bug" as its tag already, do I need to add something like "needs-retrace"? | 12:23 |
| dupondje | we are almost at bug 1000000 :) | 12:23 |
| desrt | mvo: is a PPA involved? | 12:24 |
| pitti | mvo: needs-$arch-retrace, i. e. needs-amd64-retrace | 12:24 |
| pitti | mvo: also, they sohuld be apport-crash, not -bug | 12:24 |
| pitti | mvo: ah, nevermind, this is broken anyway | 12:24 |
| pitti | mvo: it has a .crash attachment, it wasn't actually sent as a crash report | 12:25 |
| pitti | so the retracer can't process this anyway | 12:25 |
| mvo | :/ | 12:26 |
| seb128 | re | 12:26 |
| seb128 | back from lunch | 12:26 |
| mvo | thanks, I will ask for apport-collect this | 12:26 |
| seb128 | hey mvo, desrt | 12:26 |
| mvo | but apparently its a huge file | 12:26 |
| seb128 | mvo, apport-collect will not help you | 12:26 |
| mvo | desrt: no ppa involved | 12:26 |
| mvo | seb128: oh :/ | 12:26 |
| seb128 | mvo, you can download the file and apport-retrace or unpack it locally | 12:26 |
| desrt | seb128: good morning | 12:27 |
| seb128 | mvo, or ask the submitter to ubuntu-bug it | 12:27 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: thx | 12:29 |
| mvo | seb128: so my submitter gets "Your computer does not have enough free memory to automatically analyse the problem and send a report to the developers." :/ | 12:36 |
| ogra_ | buy more ram ! | 12:36 |
| seb128 | mvo, download the file he added and gdb on it locally? | 12:37 |
| pitti | you can run apport-retrace -R --gdb <that crash file> | 12:43 |
| seb128 | desrt, "fun" hud bug, bug #956878 | 12:44 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 956878 in indicator-appmenu "HUD is sending 2 menu signals instead of 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/956878 | 12:44 |
| seb128 | desrt, I guess it's on the unity side, hud-gtk doesn't have the issue | 12:46 |
| desrt | tricky. | 12:48 |
| desrt | let me see if i can reproduce that under unity | 12:48 |
| desrt | what's the new hotkey to open the overview in unity these days? | 12:49 |
| seb128 | desrt, overview? | 12:50 |
| desrt | sorry. the lenses | 12:50 |
| seb128 | desrt, super as always? | 12:50 |
| desrt | windows key, right? | 12:51 |
| seb128 | desrt, well it opens the dash, super-a, super-f, etc | 12:51 |
| seb128 | for the app, file lens | 12:51 |
| seb128 | desrt, right | 12:51 |
| desrt | hrmph | 12:51 |
| desrt | so that's working now, but it doesn't work immediately after login | 12:51 |
| seb128 | desrt, does nautilus render your background? | 12:51 |
| desrt | nope | 12:52 |
| seb128 | known bug | 12:52 |
| desrt | i was thinking that was the problem | 12:52 |
| desrt | k | 12:52 |
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| cyphermox | morning! | 13:18 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, hey, how are you? | 13:22 |
| cyphermox | seb128: not bad, you? | 13:25 |
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| cr3 | hi folks, the mouse is excruciatingly slow after starting ubuntu. against which project should I run ubuntu-bug? | 13:27 |
| seb128 | cr3, try #ubuntu-x | 13:27 |
| cr3 | seb128: it might be related to something other than x though, like I see this in powertop: | 13:28 |
| cr3 | 23.4 ms/s 2194.8 Interrupt [45] i915 | 13:28 |
| cr3 | where 2194.8 is the number of events per second, but I don't know whether that's really such a high number or not | 13:28 |
| seb128 | cr3, dunno, doesn't seem desktopish in any case | 13:29 |
| cr3 | seb128: I'll check with #ubuntu-x then. cheers! | 13:37 |
| pitti | kenvandine: good morning | 13:47 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, RUN | 13:47 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 13:47 |
| pitti | am I so terrifying? :-) | 13:48 |
| kenvandine | haha | 13:48 |
| kenvandine | what's up pitti? | 13:48 |
| seb128 | the pitti workitems garbage collector is on you :p | 13:48 |
| pitti | kenvandine: so, I wondered whether we could drop indicator-applet's dependency on gnome-panel | 13:48 |
| * kenvandine should look at his workitems | 13:48 | |
| chrisccoulson | nice, new home page in firefox: http://i.imgur.com/tTeHb.png | 13:48 |
| seb128 | pitti, you can punt the informal "talk to jason about talking to GNOME about release cycle" which is on my list, it's not linked to the Ubuntu cycle in any wya | 13:48 |
| chrisccoulson | it's a shame that we miss out on this :( | 13:49 |
| kenvandine | pitti, why? | 13:49 |
| pitti | http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/canonical-desktop-team-ubuntu-12.04-beta-2.html#ken-vandine just has one blocked one, so no worries | 13:49 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, is there anything which stops us to do something similar? | 13:49 |
| kenvandine | indicator-applet was just fixed to work with the new gnome-panel | 13:49 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, waouh they got ride of the 2 bars after all? | 13:49 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, we'd need to have our own branded offline content | 13:49 |
| pitti | kenvandine: it's the least evil solution I see to bug 954939 | 13:49 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 954939 in indicator-applet "Xubuntu 10.04 to 12.04 upgrade installs unity and gnome" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/954939 | 13:49 |
| pitti | kenvandine: but I'm all ears for better proposals | 13:49 |
| * kenvandine looks | 13:50 | |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, oh, i didn't notice that. i don't think that's the default atm. i think that's only on the UX branch | 13:50 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, ok | 13:50 |
| pitti | seb128: while we are at it, do you want to keep the other two "talk to" items for b2? | 13:50 |
| pitti | (still two weeks to go, so plenty of time) | 13:50 |
| seb128 | pitti, cf what I a wrote to you 2 minutes ago ;-) | 13:51 |
| pitti | seb128: sorry, I didn't see you saying anything aobut the two others | 13:52 |
| kenvandine | pitti, indicator-applet is only for gnome-panel | 13:52 |
| seb128 | pitti, unsure about the second one, it's hard to get anything done in Debian, we could just rename dconf to dconf-not-what-you-want and d-conf to dconf in Ubuntu? | 13:52 |
| kenvandine | so dropping the depends would just be dropping the applet completely | 13:52 |
| seb128 | pitti, 2 others? | 13:52 |
| seb128 | pitti, well the "talk to jason" can be dropped from w.i | 13:52 |
| pitti | kenvandine: understood, but conceptually shouldn't the dependency be rather the other way around? | 13:52 |
| seb128 | pitti, what do you think about renaming dconf in ubuntu? | 13:52 |
| pitti | seb128: "talk to debian about renaming epiphany and dconf" | 13:52 |
| kenvandine | tru | 13:52 |
| kenvandine | true | 13:52 |
| pitti | seb128: "talk to design,dx what to do for applications that expose a menu and an application menu (the new ones exported by gmenu)" | 13:52 |
| kenvandine | i think it would be fine to drop the depends | 13:53 |
| seb128 | pitti, that dx one is DONE | 13:53 |
| pitti | kenvandine: i. e. there should be a gnome-classic or whatever package which pulls in the panel, the indicator-applet, and other bits | 13:53 |
| seb128 | pitti, for some weeks | 13:53 |
| pitti | seb128: whoops, right | 13:53 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 13:53 |
| seb128 | pitti, so, wdyt, renaming dconf in Ubuntu? | 13:53 |
| seb128 | I will try asking on #debian-gnome again, they were talking about it | 13:53 |
| seb128 | but things can take a while in Debian | 13:54 |
| kenvandine | pitti, technically it really depends on the panel, but it actually isn't the way people are going to install it | 13:54 |
| pitti | seb128: hm, that would get us out of sync for both dconf and d-conf, and it's not an user-facing package | 13:54 |
| kenvandine | they will only want it if they already have the panel | 13:54 |
| kenvandine | so seems safe to me | 13:54 |
| pitti | kenvandine: right, but I don't think the way to get the classic session is to install indicator-application, is it? | 13:54 |
| kenvandine | we should check with jbicha | 13:54 |
| pitti | wouldn't that be gnome-session-fallback ? | 13:55 |
| pitti | which depends on -panel | 13:55 |
| pitti | kenvandine: I wonder what pulls in indicator-application right now | 13:55 |
| kenvandine | jbicha polished that stuff up so it worked nicely with the classic panel | 13:55 |
| kenvandine | pitti, indicator-applet does | 13:55 |
| kenvandine | i bet | 13:55 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, pitti: indicator-application is pulled it by indicator-applet and unity iirc | 13:56 |
| pitti | kenvandine: sorry, that's what I meant | 13:56 |
| kenvandine | so if the gnome classic pulls in gnome-panel it should pull in the applet to | 13:56 |
| pitti | so, AFAICS the problem is not that gnome-panel doesn't get installed | 13:56 |
| kenvandine | right | 13:56 |
| pitti | as it's a direct dependency of gnome-session-fallback | 13:56 |
| pitti | so we don't need to depend on it in indicator-application | 13:56 |
| pitti | argh | 13:56 |
| kenvandine | so dropping the gnome-panel depends should be safe | 13:56 |
| pitti | indicator-applet | 13:56 |
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| pitti | and it wouldn't pull in the whole gnome and unity stack just because you install one indicator | 13:57 |
| pitti | kenvandine: ok, that's what I thought | 13:57 |
| * kenvandine will make it happen | 13:57 | |
| pitti | kenvandine: thanks for cross-checking! | 13:57 |
| pitti | kenvandine: ah, you want to? ok | 13:57 |
| kenvandine | sure, i have the branch handy | 13:58 |
| * pitti checks http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/bug-fixing/canonical-desktop-team-precise-fixes-report.html | 13:58 | |
| pitti | ack, it's all your's :-P | 13:58 |
| pitti | once you get close, I'll upload such things right away and steal the trophy :) | 13:58 |
| seb128 | lol | 13:58 |
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| === greyback|lunch is now known as greyback | ||
| dobey | hrmm, requestsync is confusing | 14:36 |
| dobey | hrmm | 14:38 |
| desrt | seb128: how do i become a 'bug supervisor'? | 15:04 |
| seb128 | desrt, you ask to bdmurray on #ubuntu-bugs I guess | 15:06 |
| === dbarth_ is now known as dbarth | ||
| hallyn | is *this* the right place to ask about the scrollbar? | 15:11 |
| hallyn | (being unclickable) | 15:11 |
| cyphermox | hallyn: +1, yes, I think it probably is :) | 15:12 |
| cyphermox | hallyn: but perhaps the best is to file a bug :) | 15:12 |
| cyphermox | hallyn: by the way, you weren't dreaming things when wifi was acting up yesterday, we found some issues with libnl waiting for data | 15:13 |
| hallyn | yay :) | 15:13 |
| hallyn | cyphermox: file a bug against what exactly? | 15:13 |
| cyphermox | hallyn: just a seconf | 15:13 |
| desrt | jbicha: you are too late :p | 15:14 |
| cyphermox | hallyn: overlay-scrollbar | 15:14 |
| jbicha | wow, people come and go so quickly around here | 15:14 |
| desrt | :) | 15:14 |
| hallyn | cyphermox: thanks, will do that | 15:14 |
| desrt | seb128: so is it appropriate to assign this dbus message spam bug as a beta2 milestone? | 15:14 |
| desrt | what are the implications of me doing that? | 15:15 |
| desrt | i cause some annoyance to the release team if i don't fix it on time? | 15:15 |
| hallyn | (filed bug 957054) | 15:17 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 957054 in overlay-scrollbar "scrollbar disappears before i can click to drag it" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/957054 | 15:17 |
| seb128 | desrt, that's ok, they will just move target if it's not done | 15:17 |
| pitti | yes, we have a script to mass-move old milestones | 15:17 |
| seb128 | hallyn, it's a dup of bug #949414 | 15:17 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 949414 in gtk "Some GTK+3 events are not emitted when using a touchpad (but are with a mouse)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/949414 | 15:17 |
| desrt | aww? i don't have the ability to single-handedly delay the entire release? :) | 15:17 |
| * desrt pretends that he does anyway as extra motivation to fix it | 15:18 | |
| seb128 | desrt, ;-) | 15:20 |
| hallyn | seb128: grrr. thanks | 15:27 |
| seb128 | hallyn, yw | 15:27 |
| seb128 | hallyn, bug #956062 as well which was the most recent bug reported on overlay-scrollbars before yours | 15:28 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 956062 in overlay-scrollbar "Impossible to catch scrollbar with touchpad in unmaximized nautilus windows" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/956062 | 15:28 |
| hallyn | not 100% sure i agree with 'medium', but i guess bug priorities aren't based on the amount of hair i pull out :) | 15:28 |
| hallyn | ok, thanks, then i'll carry on | 15:28 |
| seb128 | hallyn, it's specific to some devices, doesn't happen with a mouse, but yeah, don't stop at the settings they don't reflect really how actively things are tracked | 15:28 |
| seb128 | hallyn, btw it would be good to check open bugs before you report a new one ;-) | 15:29 |
| hallyn | none of the ones it showed me based on its guesses were it | 15:29 |
| seb128 | hallyn, like the most recent bug on overlay-scrollbar has a title pretty similar to yours, how did you miss it? | 15:29 |
| hallyn | the gt3 one, i would never have guesed based on the title | 15:29 |
| seb128 | right, but overlay-scrollbar has a least 2 bugs about it in the most recent 5 bugs | 15:30 |
| seb128 | open the list, check recent bugs, it's not that hard ;-) | 15:30 |
| hallyn | seb128: bc i count on lp to give me the suspected dups | 15:30 |
| hallyn | that, and bc it was mixed in with 3-4 bugs yesterday that made my laptop unusable (super key not working, etc) | 15:30 |
| seb128 | hum, k, that doesn't work great indeed :-( | 15:30 |
| seb128 | hallyn, did you fix the super key issue? | 15:31 |
| hallyn | i thought it worked better than it apparently does | 15:31 |
| hallyn | i didn't fix it, it just started working this morning | 15:31 |
| hallyn | so i expect it to fail after next reboot :( | 15:31 |
| seb128 | hallyn, it doesn't work if you are on an empty workspace | 15:31 |
| seb128 | hallyn, or if nautilus doesn't display the background | 15:31 |
| seb128 | hallyn, did you turn nautilus handling of the background off? | 15:31 |
| hallyn | wh... uh, that's deemed a bug i hope? | 15:31 |
| hallyn | yes | 15:31 |
| seb128 | there you go | 15:31 |
| seb128 | yes, known issue | 15:32 |
| hallyn | ok, just wanted to make sure it's deemed an issue | 15:32 |
| seb128 | you are just on a non standard, non testing config | 15:32 |
| seb128 | non tested | 15:32 |
| hallyn | someone's gotta do it :) | 15:32 |
| seb128 | i.e you tweak hidden options you are on your own ;-) | 15:32 |
| seb128 | imho we need to start talking about reducing the number of option for next cycle | 15:32 |
| hallyn | laptop's too slow, i think that's why i turned it off | 15:32 |
| seb128 | we have too many bugs because people tweak random crackful things | 15:32 |
| hallyn | hey! i stuck to 100% things i can set with myUnity | 15:33 |
| seb128 | well, still too much, see it broke your super key :p | 15:33 |
| hallyn | i thought iw as being good :) | 15:33 |
| hallyn | true dat | 15:33 |
| seb128 | it's hard to cover all possible option combinaison | 15:33 |
| hallyn | ok, thanks. never would've guessed. so maybe i'll turn that back on | 15:33 |
| hallyn | (i'll avoid talking about how 15 years ago i could map keys to whatever i wanted, as well as suspend and resume and make my own bread :) | 15:34 |
| hallyn | thanks, ttyl. | 15:34 |
| seb128 | bye | 15:35 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: defaults-builder currently uses ./usr/lib/firefox-addons/distrib | 15:52 |
| pitti | erk, let's try this again | 15:52 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - oh, yes. we need to move that :) | 15:52 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: defaults-builder currently uses /usr/lib/firefox-addons/distribution/distribution.ini | 15:52 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: I suppose that needs to move to /usr/lib/firefox/distribution/distribution.ini now? | 15:52 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, it does. sorry, i was going to propose a merge for that ;) | 15:52 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: the former was a workaround path while we had the version specific firefox paths, right? | 15:52 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: np, doing now | 15:53 |
| pitti | bug 956899, FTR | 15:53 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 956899 in ubuntu-defaults-builder "Regression: firefox bookmarks not imported anymore" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/956899 | 15:53 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks | 15:53 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - yeah, the former was just a workaround. i've moved the whole installation location now :) | 15:54 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: is that planned to be done in SRUs, too? | 16:00 |
| pitti | this would be tricky, as it would break existing defaults pacakges | 16:00 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - sort of. i've made an exception for the oneiric package to leave the distribution.ini file where it is though | 16:01 |
| pitti | mterry: hey Mike, how are you? | 16:06 |
| pitti | mterry: do you have some time to check the patch in bug 944035 and sponsor this? | 16:06 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 944035 in ibus "pinyin not listed by default on a fresh installation" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/944035 | 16:06 |
| mterry | pitti, yeah, I know I didn't reply to bug, but I was going to look at it today | 16:07 |
| mterry | pitti, I saw the fedora patch, was reviewing it | 16:07 |
| mterry | pitti, I don't think it will require an FFe like the commenter does? Seems just like a bug fix (though a bit of a hefty patch) | 16:07 |
| mterry | oh, hm... it does at least change UI... | 16:16 |
| pitti | mterry: well, a bit, but I really consider it a bug | 16:19 |
| pitti | it's quite useless by default righ tnow | 16:19 |
| pitti | and that used to work AFAIR | 16:19 |
| pitti | mterry: thanks for looking at this! | 16:19 |
| === JackyAlcine_ is now known as jalcine | ||
| mvo | hm, where does gnome-settings stores the proxy info (http proxy) these days? | 17:16 |
| seb128 | mvo, org.gnome.system.proxy.http | 17:17 |
| seb128 | mvo, gsettings get org.gnome.system.proxy.http host '' | 17:17 |
| seb128 | ups | 17:17 |
| seb128 | mvo, gsettings get org.gnome.system.proxy.http host | 17:17 |
| mvo | seb128: ok, I don't get it, I set it to "manual" and http://localhost, but gsettings get org.gnome.system.proxy.http enabled says false? | 17:18 |
| seb128 | mvo, enabled is deprecated | 17:19 |
| seb128 | host = '' is no proxy == disabled | 17:19 |
| mvo | aha, ok | 17:19 |
| seb128 | if there is a value it's enabled | 17:19 |
| mvo | t | 17:19 |
| mvo | ta | 17:19 |
| seb128 | yw | 17:19 |
| pitti | good night everyone, have a nice weekend! | 17:39 |
| pitti | FTR, I'll be off for most of Monday, getting my remaining two wisdom teeth pulled | 17:40 |
| pitti | I'll be online in the morning for doing some patch piloting, though | 17:40 |
| kenvandine | pitti, have a great weekend | 17:41 |
| chrisccoulson | heh - http://goo.gl/Y9qaM | 17:57 |
| kenvandine | chrisccoulson, i love it :) | 18:03 |
| dobey | man. internet memes are so lame now | 18:07 |
| Sweetshark | aarrgh | 18:21 |
| * Sweetshark cant get into chinstrap | 18:21 | |
| * Sweetshark can get into chinstrap | 18:26 | |
| Sweetshark | pitti: good luck with the teeth stuff! | 18:27 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: 3.5.0-1ubuntu1 uploading to chinstrap btw | 18:27 |
| desrt | ugh | 18:32 |
| desrt | my apartment is burning down again | 18:32 |
| desrt | or perhaps not... | 18:32 |
| micahg | Sweetshark: I assume you meant 3.5.1-1ubuntu1? | 18:33 |
| chrisccoulson | desrt, oh, that sounds quite serious | 18:34 |
| chrisccoulson | perhaps someone in your apartment is building libreoffice? | 18:34 |
| desrt | :) | 18:35 |
| desrt | the alarm bell sounded | 18:35 |
| desrt | but only for a moment | 18:35 |
| Laney | maybe it melted | 18:35 |
| desrt | that seems unlikely | 18:35 |
| desrt | it's just over there... | 18:35 |
| jbicha | chrisccoulson: that was nice & quick to get the Firefox 11 SRU out already :) | 18:36 |
| chrisccoulson | jbicha, micahg was involved too ;) | 18:36 |
| micahg | jbicha: was actually on the slower side unfortunately (not due to chrisccoulson, he was plenty fast) | 18:37 |
| chrisccoulson | jbicha, also, we have the next beta available already: https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-next/ | 18:38 |
| chrisccoulson | for precise too ;) | 18:38 |
| jbicha | chrisccoulson: I'll probably have to add that PPA, stable Firefox is too boring | 18:38 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, you should do :) | 18:38 |
| Sweetshark | micahg: indeed | 18:42 |
| Sweetshark | micahg, chrisccoulson, desrt: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNnAvTTaJjM libreoffice building soundtrack | 18:43 |
| jbicha | chrisccoulson: oh FF12 is still pending publication to the PPA, I guess I'll wait a few more minutes | 18:44 |
| seb128 | hey jbicha, how are you? | 18:44 |
| seb128 | jbicha, how is the feedback on the new shell? ;-) | 18:44 |
| jbicha | seb128: not too much feedback, maybe people didn't notice yet? Cinnamon's broken but the Mint devs apparently don't care yet so neither do I | 18:47 |
| desrt | jbicha: it's awesome :D | 18:47 |
| seb128 | I can see the news | 18:47 |
| desrt | seb128: i think anyone who is running gnome-shell on precise was running it out of the PPA already.... so no big change for most people | 18:47 |
| seb128 | "Ubuntu breaks Mint to try to get users back" | 18:47 |
| desrt | seb128: is there a known bug with not being able to add new favourites to the unity panel? | 18:49 |
| seb128 | desrt, launcher you mean? the left bar? | 18:50 |
| desrt | ya | 18:50 |
| seb128 | no, and works for me | 18:50 |
| seb128 | what did you do? | 18:50 |
| desrt | it's never worked for me | 18:50 |
| desrt | and i've tried a lot of times with a lot of versions | 18:50 |
| desrt | i do a search and then drag an icon | 18:50 |
| desrt | it even says "Drop to add application" when i hover the bar | 18:50 |
| desrt | but nothing happens | 18:50 |
| seb128 | urg | 18:50 |
| seb128 | if you run an app, right click on the launcher icon and pick "lock..." | 18:51 |
| seb128 | does it work? | 18:51 |
| seb128 | i.e does it stay after you close the app? | 18:51 |
| desrt | yes | 18:51 |
| desrt | thanks :) | 18:51 |
| seb128 | yw | 18:51 |
| seb128 | but the dnd should be working, it works for me | 18:51 |
| jbicha | Java apps don't pin to the launcher | 18:51 |
| desrt | how do i change the position of the icon? | 18:51 |
| seb128 | desrt, dnd | 18:51 |
| desrt | it seems to move the entire launcher instead of just the icon | 18:52 |
| kenvandine | desrt, drag out to the right a bit | 18:52 |
| seb128 | desrt, either stay pressed for a second, iOS way | 18:52 |
| seb128 | desrt, or go right | 18:52 |
| desrt | oh. that works. | 18:52 |
| desrt | both of those work | 18:52 |
| desrt | thanks | 18:52 |
| seb128 | yw | 18:52 |
| topyli | seb128: the shell 3.90 in universe tends to crash. i downgraded to a ppa version myself in order to get anything done :) | 18:52 |
| seb128 | urg? | 18:52 |
| seb128 | jbicha, ^ | 18:53 |
| seb128 | topyli, universe should be basically the same as the ppa I think | 18:53 |
| seb128 | ok, dinner time | 18:53 |
| seb128 | bbl | 18:53 |
| topyli | i know. somehow it crashes more eagerly. i'm running ~ubuntu3. 4 and 5 like to crash too | 18:53 |
| seb128 | have a good w.e everybody for those I will not see again (no work tonight but I might let IRC on a bit while hacking) | 18:53 |
| desrt | seb128: hacking != work? :) | 18:56 |
| desrt | seb128: can you remind me what is the freeze for beta? | 18:57 |
| jbicha | !schedule | 18:59 |
| ubot2` | The Ubuntu Precise Pangolin release schedule can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule | 18:59 |
| desrt | convenient. thanks. | 18:59 |
| desrt | crikey. all of next week | 18:59 |
| * desrt starts planning for all the things he can break in that time | 18:59 | |
| nessita | hello all!!! | 19:00 |
| desrt | nessita: hello! | 19:00 |
| nessita | seb128: may I ask a very quick favor from you? | 19:00 |
| nessita | anyone with a non-english locale: would you please pastebin the content of your ~/ .config/user-dirs.dirs ? | 19:01 |
| dobey | nessita: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/xdg-user-dirs/+pots/xdg-user-dirs might help :) | 19:14 |
| nessita | dobey: looking! | 19:14 |
| dobey | 文档 is "Documents" currently, in the simplified chinese translation :) | 19:16 |
| seb128 | nessita, hey | 19:28 |
| seb128 | nessita, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/886785/ | 19:28 |
| nessita | seb128: thanks!!! | 19:28 |
| seb128 | nessita, yw | 19:28 |
| seb128 | nessita, you can probably get the same by running LANG=fr LC_ALL=fr_FR.UTF-8 xdg-user-dirs-update | 19:29 |
| nessita | seb128: did not know that, will take notes | 19:29 |
| seb128 | nessita, you might need to --force if it does nothing | 19:31 |
| nessita | seb128: yeap, thanks! | 19:31 |
| seb128 | nessita, yw | 19:31 |
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