[00:39] Hm. Apparently this unity-greeter that works fine on intel will fail to log in on my netbook. Superb. [00:42] Awesome. [00:42] RAOF: If thats NVIDIA and you are using Nouveau, thats even more interesting, since I am using Nouveau here without issue. [00:43] Oh, it's my locally-built trunk version that's aiming to fix the transition from greeter->session. [00:44] ah [00:56] Ah. I appear to not have gnome-session installed on the netbook. That would explain failure-to-login :) [01:06] heh [02:04] sup all. [02:29] Does the icon with the Ubuntu symbol on it have a specific name? [02:30] or do I just say click the icon with the Ubuntu symbol on it in the launcher and type "terminal" to bring up a term window? [02:32] akgraner: The tooltip for the button is "Dash Button". [02:32] SO I guess that could be used. [02:33] TheMuso, awesome thanks! I didn't know what to call it :-) [02:34] akgraner: Sorry, its "Dash Home" not "Dash Button" [02:35] no worries - changing it now [02:36] Thanks TheMuso , I'm working on some edits to a command line chapter that are due in a couple of hours - and I realized I still have some place holders for things :-/ so hopefully I won't bug you all to much :-) [02:37] np === JackyAlcine_ is now known as jalcine === jalcine_ is now known as JackyAlcine === JackyAlcine is now known as jalcine === jalcine is now known as JackyAlcine === JackyAlcine is now known as jalcine === jalcine is now known as JackyAlcine === JackyAlcine is now known as jalcine [04:38] hey guys...anyone getting this error when trying to upgrade right now? E: Internal Error, No file name for libc6 [04:46] jasoncwarner_: Didn't hit that when I updated this morning... [04:46] RAOF: I just started getitng it maybe an hour ago...I updated this morning as well... [04:47] Haven't seen any suc error, at least in my terminals. [04:48] I also updated this morning. [04:53] thanks, TheMuso and RAOF ... just got my laptop back from being repaired and I want to update, but I can't :/ [04:56] * RAOF has additionally been able to update right now, and not run into that problem. [05:02] * TheMuso is doing likewise. [05:03] * jasoncwarner_ scratches head.... === jalcine is now known as webjadmin_ === webjadmin_ is now known as jalcine [05:13] RAOF or TheMuso any thoughts on this? This is the specific error I'm getting. I tried the -f option, but that is when I get the message about libc6 [05:13] The following packages have unmet dependencies: [05:13] lib32asound2 : Depends: libasound2 (= 1.0.24.1-4ubuntu1) [05:13] libc-dev-bin : Depends: libc6 (< 2.14) but 2.15-0ubuntu5 is installed [05:13] libc6-dev : Depends: libc6 (= 2.13-24ubuntu4) but 2.15-0ubuntu5 is installed [05:13] libc6-i386 : Depends: libc6 (= 2.13-24ubuntu4) but 2.15-0ubuntu5 is installed [05:13] libnih-dbus1 : Depends: libnih1 (= 1.0.3-4ubuntu9) but 1.0.3-4ubuntu5 is installed [05:13] libnih1 : Depends: libc6 (< 2.15) but 2.15-0ubuntu5 is installed [05:13] E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f. [05:15] jasoncwarner_: Interesting that you have lib32asound2 installed... I wonder if that problem you have is a multi-arch related problem... [05:16] TheMuso: any way to find out, or should I talk to steve L about it? [05:16] jasoncwarner_: I am just speculating, I really don't know from teh above, I just saw references to i3866/32-bit. [05:17] gah [05:17] thanks, TheMuso I'll poke steve and see if he knows...otherwise I'll ask pitti when he gets up...pitti knows all ;) [05:18] Hm. You seem to have quite an old libc6 installed. [05:20] Actually, no. [05:20] What the devil is going on there? [05:40] RAOF: I have no idea. This machine was in the shop for a month [05:40] so...it could be quite old. I was using a diff machine for a month and am now just getting this one updated [05:40] didn't htink it would be this hard ;) [05:41] Yeah, you *don't* actually have an old libc, but it looks like it's trying to install an old libc6-dev. For some reason. === fenris is now known as Guest98977 [06:29] RAOF TheMuso I don't know what I did..but I eventually got it to update [06:29] I really have no idea what made it go [06:31] Good morning [06:32] jasoncwarner_: still having trouble? [06:32] hey pitti [06:32] no, I don't think so [06:32] I got it updated, have latest unity and compiz [06:33] I literally have no idea why it got fixed ;) [06:37] /var/log/dpkg.log might be illuminating [07:09] doctor appointment, bbl [08:41] hey [08:42] bonjour seb128 [08:42] seb128: nice bug work! [08:42] pitti, hey, pitti, wie gehts? [08:42] seb128: quite fine, thanks [08:42] pitti, did I get my second position back? ;-) [08:42] spent too much time on pygobject upstream yesterday, so I didn't get to distro bug fixing [08:42] seb128: yes [08:42] \o/ [08:43] well I didn't fixed much but I was only 2 behinds I think [08:43] I spent some time improving a bit versions yesterday [08:43] pitti, btw I signed your key but the emails sending failed because I don't have postfix or similar working [08:44] pitti, but you should be able to --recv-key [08:44] hm, I did, says "unchanged" [08:45] pitti, it sent to pool.sks-keyservers.net [08:45] that's maybe not the right server to use [08:46] tried that one now, still no new sigs [08:46] hum [08:46] try gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --send-key 26B47B9F ? [08:46] pitti, your key is 26B47B9F right? [08:46] oui [08:46] pitti, done [08:47] hm, still nothing [08:47] seb128: could you check "gpg --list-sigs martinpitt@gnome.org" ? [08:47] let me retry to sign [08:47] yeah, seems it's no [08:47] caff was a fail [08:47] seb128: seahorse has a GUI for this [08:47] let me redo it ;-) [08:47] seb128: right, caff doesn't send to keyservers [08:50] whoop [08:50] hey chrisccoulson, how are you? [08:50] pitti, right, I did send but it seems it didn't sign [08:50] hi seb128, i'm good thanks. how are you? [08:51] hey chrisccoulson [08:51] hi pitti :) [08:51] pitti, maybe I shouldn't have exited gpg with "q" once it was done signing [08:51] chrisccoulson, good, thanks! ;-) [08:51] are the window management buttons supposed to be on the right or left side by default? going back to the default switched them to the right here [08:52] going back to defaults where? [08:52] no [08:52] dconf-editor [08:52] the editor doesn't understand overrides [08:52] sigh [08:52] ok [08:52] bug in the editor I guess [08:52] use gsettings reset [08:53] ok [08:54] pitti, --recv-key again? [08:55] hmm, still nothing [08:55] seb128: it might take a while before the updated keys are available, perhaps the servers run some checks or so [08:55] seb128: anyway, thank you! [08:55] seb128: same thing with gsettings reset [08:56] pitti, yeah, check in a bit, this time --list-sigs show my signatures, so it's likely server delay [08:56] gsettings reset org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences button-layout [08:56] tjaalton, dunno then, question for didrocks, he will be there on monday [08:56] seb128: ok [08:56] pitti, yw! [09:12] seb128: any luck with the libical FTBFS? [09:12] pitti, I was sort of waiting for Debian they have an RC bug for it, I hate wasting time to track something when we can get the fix for free by waiting 3 days [09:13] seb128: ah, that's fine [09:13] merci [09:13] de rien [09:13] pitti, I will look at it on monday if nobody moved in Debian by then [09:33] mhr3: good morning [09:34] hey pitti [09:34] mhr3: could you please have a quick look at http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/canonical-desktop-team-ubuntu-12.04-beta-2.html#mhr3 and check if these two are still on track for b2? [09:34] I'll be so sad when Precise is out... No more daily upgrades that are 100+ MB ... Always fun. :) [09:34] mhr3: if not, we can move them to final, as they don't seen feature/code related [09:35] BigWhale: don't worry, there will be the quarreling quail to upgrade to [09:36] pitti, will check the first, should be done afaik, as for the second we did have a chat about it, so i guess it's finished? :) [09:36] mhr3: splendid :) [09:37] chrisccoulson: "Add a restart-required banner to Firefox when any plug-in is upgraded", is that still for P? [09:39] Sweetshark: FYI, I took the liberty to update https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-p-libreoffice-packaging a bit [09:42] seiflotfy: hey Seif, how are you? [09:42] seiflotfy: would you mind having a quick look at http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/canonical-desktop-team-ubuntu-12.04-beta-2.html#seif and tell me what we should postpone to Q? === fenris is now known as Guest77154 [10:28] pitti: i would love to work on quicklists now [10:29] but i need some1 to talk to [10:29] seiflotfy: I suppose at this point there's also quite some restrictions due to feature/UI freeze in ubuntu [10:29] the ppl and disable logging stuff needs to be postponed [10:29] doesn't stop upstream work, of course [10:29] pitti: no worries i don' care when it gets in as long as it gets in [10:30] seiflotfy: what is "ppl"? [10:30] people lens [10:30] seiflotfy: so "Add ability to disable reading the db (but not logging)" -> deferred [10:30] yes [10:31] pitti its more complicated as you think [10:31] seiflotfy: thanks, I updated the BP accordingly [10:32] seiflotfy: just want to make sure that we don't postpone/drop anythign which you aren't happy about [10:41] argh, seb128 keeps fixing bugs, and I'm stuck with unbreaking the archive [10:42] pitti, ;-) [10:42] * pitti hugs seb128, keep up the great work! [10:42] * seb128 hugs pitti [11:01] kamstrup, mhr3: do you know if the zg code in rhythmbox is something that we should activate by default? it's not at the moment [11:02] seb128, i actually wanted to ask didrocks if there's a reason the dataproviders aren't active by default [11:02] seb128, although rb is not going to help much, we're not using that data anywhere by default [11:02] seb128, mhr3: I've been running with the RB provider enabled for some time. It works pretty well, but I think it pollutes the recent files list somewhat [11:02] seb128, gedit should be active though afaict [11:02] mhr3, ok, I was not sure if it would be useful for the music lens or something [11:03] mhr3: the songs you play are added [11:03] visible in the files lens [11:03] not the ones it skips to automatically [11:03] hum, yeah,that's not good [11:03] but if you skip forward 10 songs yourself [11:03] it adds those 10 songs [11:03] kamstrup, oh... right i forgot it's "clever" [11:03] even though you only heard 2s of each [11:03] I think it makes sense [11:03] kamstrup, we'll have a proper rb scope, so we dont need them afaict [11:04] it should just only send the event if you hear more than say 75% of the song [11:04] right [11:06] kamstrup, I'm unsure, I would say it shouldn't add anything to the files lens from within rb [11:06] only files you clicked on [11:06] agreed [11:06] kamstrup, mhr3: what about gedit? [11:07] seb128, is it active by default? i see it off here, but maybe that's just me [11:08] mhr3, yes it is, I just checked in a guest session, I guess it's user profiles not being changed on upgrade [11:08] so we are good [11:08] k, then it's fine, thx [11:09] pitti: saw it, thanks [11:16] pitti: libreoffice-3.5.1-1ubuntu1 incoming today. [11:17] Sweetshark: yay -- does it add back the three missing armhf packages? [11:18] oh, hmm, no it doesnt. [11:22] at debian, armel armhf powerpc powerpcspe ppc64 s390x are still not building LO base ... [11:31] pitti: I would need to try if these base thingies even build on armhf, Id suggest to upload 3.5.1-1ubuntu1 with them still missing. I will then try to build it on a builder box. [11:38] Sweetshark: ah, fair enough; I can also just remove these three binaries from the archive [11:44] Sweetshark: ^ so I guess I'll do that now? [11:44] Sweetshark: also, please ping me when you have the upload ready [11:45] Sweetshark: actually, -base, -evolution, -base-core _did_ build in 1:3.5.0-1ubuntu4 [11:45] Sweetshark: just 1:3.5.0-2ubuntu1 dropped them [11:46] Sweetshark: and they did build for armel, too [11:46] Sweetshark: so it ought to be fine to re-enable them [11:52] pitti: yes, please remove the binaries. [11:52] Sweetshark: so they built, but might not actuall work? [11:53] yes, I know we did build them. But I dont want to send an upload into the build there (quite a lot happened upstream between 3.5.0 and .1). But yes, they might work. [11:54] s/into the build/into the blind/ [11:55] pitti, hi [11:56] Sweetshark: ack, removing for now then [11:56] hey tkamppeter [11:56] Sweetshark: done [11:57] pitti, I got a lot of texttopdf fixes from upstream so I will release cups-filters 1.0.6 soon. So a Ubuntu/Debian upload will most probably happen on Monday. Is this OK? When is b2 freeze? [11:58] tkamppeter: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule - March 22, so next Thursday [11:58] tkamppeter: NB that I'm off sick Monday, I get my other two wisdom teeth pulled [11:58] pitti, OK, thanks, so np with the upload. [11:58] I'll be around early morning to do some sponsoring [11:58] but I can sponsor on Tuesday [11:59] pitti, OK. [11:59] tkamppeter: alternatively, commit it to Debian VCS and do a -0bzr1 upload to Ubuntun only [11:59] pitti, OK, thanks. [12:10] good morning hackers [12:17] it's a desrt! [12:19] * ogra_ feels thursty now [12:20] ogra_: you and your beer desserts! [12:20] * desrt brings ogra_ water? [12:20] lol [12:20] it's Friday past one o'clock, and he's a German; he won't accept water [12:20] :) [12:21] water, isnt that for fishes to swim in ? [12:21] is the 1:00 rule just so that germans don't get _totally_ sloshed at lunch? [12:21] or do you mean 1:00am? :) [12:21] dupondje, yeah, and they make love in it too ! [12:21] lol [12:21] who would drink that ! [12:22] true! :) belgian beer ! :D [12:23] seb128: hi, I guess I should know this ;) bug how do I make the retracer trace #956316 ? it has "apport-bug" as its tag already, do I need to add something like "needs-retrace"? [12:23] we are almost at bug 1000000 :) [12:24] mvo: is a PPA involved? [12:24] mvo: needs-$arch-retrace, i. e. needs-amd64-retrace [12:24] mvo: also, they sohuld be apport-crash, not -bug [12:24] mvo: ah, nevermind, this is broken anyway [12:25] mvo: it has a .crash attachment, it wasn't actually sent as a crash report [12:25] so the retracer can't process this anyway [12:26] :/ [12:26] re [12:26] back from lunch [12:26] thanks, I will ask for apport-collect this [12:26] hey mvo, desrt [12:26] but apparently its a huge file [12:26] mvo, apport-collect will not help you [12:26] desrt: no ppa involved [12:26] seb128: oh :/ [12:26] mvo, you can download the file and apport-retrace or unpack it locally [12:27] seb128: good morning [12:27] mvo, or ask the submitter to ubuntu-bug it [12:29] pitti: thx [12:36] seb128: so my submitter gets "Your computer does not have enough free memory to automatically analyse the problem and send a report to the developers." :/ [12:36] buy more ram ! [12:37] mvo, download the file he added and gdb on it locally? [12:43] you can run apport-retrace -R --gdb [12:44] desrt, "fun" hud bug, bug #956878 [12:44] Launchpad bug 956878 in indicator-appmenu "HUD is sending 2 menu signals instead of 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/956878 [12:46] desrt, I guess it's on the unity side, hud-gtk doesn't have the issue [12:48] tricky. [12:48] let me see if i can reproduce that under unity [12:49] what's the new hotkey to open the overview in unity these days? [12:50] desrt, overview? [12:50] sorry. the lenses [12:50] desrt, super as always? [12:51] windows key, right? [12:51] desrt, well it opens the dash, super-a, super-f, etc [12:51] for the app, file lens [12:51] desrt, right [12:51] hrmph [12:51] so that's working now, but it doesn't work immediately after login [12:51] desrt, does nautilus render your background? [12:52] nope [12:52] known bug [12:52] i was thinking that was the problem [12:52] k === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [13:18] morning! [13:22] cyphermox, hey, how are you? [13:25] seb128: not bad, you? === greyback is now known as greyback|lunch [13:27] hi folks, the mouse is excruciatingly slow after starting ubuntu. against which project should I run ubuntu-bug? [13:27] cr3, try #ubuntu-x [13:28] seb128: it might be related to something other than x though, like I see this in powertop: [13:28] 23.4 ms/s 2194.8 Interrupt [45] i915 [13:28] where 2194.8 is the number of events per second, but I don't know whether that's really such a high number or not [13:29] cr3, dunno, doesn't seem desktopish in any case [13:37] seb128: I'll check with #ubuntu-x then. cheers! [13:47] kenvandine: good morning [13:47] kenvandine, RUN [13:47] ;-) [13:48] am I so terrifying? :-) [13:48] haha [13:48] what's up pitti? [13:48] the pitti workitems garbage collector is on you :p [13:48] kenvandine: so, I wondered whether we could drop indicator-applet's dependency on gnome-panel [13:48] * kenvandine should look at his workitems [13:48] nice, new home page in firefox: http://i.imgur.com/tTeHb.png [13:48] pitti, you can punt the informal "talk to jason about talking to GNOME about release cycle" which is on my list, it's not linked to the Ubuntu cycle in any wya [13:49] it's a shame that we miss out on this :( [13:49] pitti, why? [13:49] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/canonical-desktop-team-ubuntu-12.04-beta-2.html#ken-vandine just has one blocked one, so no worries [13:49] chrisccoulson, is there anything which stops us to do something similar? [13:49] indicator-applet was just fixed to work with the new gnome-panel [13:49] chrisccoulson, waouh they got ride of the 2 bars after all? [13:49] seb128, we'd need to have our own branded offline content [13:49] kenvandine: it's the least evil solution I see to bug 954939 [13:49] Launchpad bug 954939 in indicator-applet "Xubuntu 10.04 to 12.04 upgrade installs unity and gnome" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/954939 [13:49] kenvandine: but I'm all ears for better proposals [13:50] * kenvandine looks [13:50] seb128, oh, i didn't notice that. i don't think that's the default atm. i think that's only on the UX branch [13:50] chrisccoulson, ok [13:50] seb128: while we are at it, do you want to keep the other two "talk to" items for b2? [13:50] (still two weeks to go, so plenty of time) [13:51] pitti, cf what I a wrote to you 2 minutes ago ;-) [13:52] seb128: sorry, I didn't see you saying anything aobut the two others [13:52] pitti, indicator-applet is only for gnome-panel [13:52] pitti, unsure about the second one, it's hard to get anything done in Debian, we could just rename dconf to dconf-not-what-you-want and d-conf to dconf in Ubuntu? [13:52] so dropping the depends would just be dropping the applet completely [13:52] pitti, 2 others? [13:52] pitti, well the "talk to jason" can be dropped from w.i [13:52] kenvandine: understood, but conceptually shouldn't the dependency be rather the other way around? [13:52] pitti, what do you think about renaming dconf in ubuntu? [13:52] seb128: "talk to debian about renaming epiphany and dconf" [13:52] tru [13:52] true [13:52] seb128: "talk to design,dx what to do for applications that expose a menu and an application menu (the new ones exported by gmenu)" [13:53] i think it would be fine to drop the depends [13:53] pitti, that dx one is DONE [13:53] kenvandine: i. e. there should be a gnome-classic or whatever package which pulls in the panel, the indicator-applet, and other bits [13:53] pitti, for some weeks [13:53] seb128: whoops, right [13:53] ;-) [13:53] pitti, so, wdyt, renaming dconf in Ubuntu? [13:53] I will try asking on #debian-gnome again, they were talking about it [13:54] but things can take a while in Debian [13:54] pitti, technically it really depends on the panel, but it actually isn't the way people are going to install it [13:54] seb128: hm, that would get us out of sync for both dconf and d-conf, and it's not an user-facing package [13:54] they will only want it if they already have the panel [13:54] so seems safe to me [13:54] kenvandine: right, but I don't think the way to get the classic session is to install indicator-application, is it? [13:54] we should check with jbicha [13:55] wouldn't that be gnome-session-fallback ? [13:55] which depends on -panel [13:55] kenvandine: I wonder what pulls in indicator-application right now [13:55] jbicha polished that stuff up so it worked nicely with the classic panel [13:55] pitti, indicator-applet does [13:55] i bet [13:56] kenvandine, pitti: indicator-application is pulled it by indicator-applet and unity iirc [13:56] kenvandine: sorry, that's what I meant [13:56] so if the gnome classic pulls in gnome-panel it should pull in the applet to [13:56] so, AFAICS the problem is not that gnome-panel doesn't get installed [13:56] right [13:56] as it's a direct dependency of gnome-session-fallback [13:56] so we don't need to depend on it in indicator-application [13:56] argh [13:56] so dropping the gnome-panel depends should be safe [13:56] indicator-applet === Trevinho|afk is now known as Trevinho [13:57] and it wouldn't pull in the whole gnome and unity stack just because you install one indicator [13:57] kenvandine: ok, that's what I thought [13:57] * kenvandine will make it happen [13:57] kenvandine: thanks for cross-checking! [13:57] kenvandine: ah, you want to? ok [13:58] sure, i have the branch handy [13:58] * pitti checks http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/bug-fixing/canonical-desktop-team-precise-fixes-report.html [13:58] ack, it's all your's :-P [13:58] once you get close, I'll upload such things right away and steal the trophy :) [13:58] lol === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow === greyback|lunch is now known as greyback [14:36] hrmm, requestsync is confusing [14:38] hrmm [15:04] seb128: how do i become a 'bug supervisor'? [15:06] desrt, you ask to bdmurray on #ubuntu-bugs I guess === dbarth_ is now known as dbarth [15:11] is *this* the right place to ask about the scrollbar? [15:11] (being unclickable) [15:12] hallyn: +1, yes, I think it probably is :) [15:12] hallyn: but perhaps the best is to file a bug :) [15:13] hallyn: by the way, you weren't dreaming things when wifi was acting up yesterday, we found some issues with libnl waiting for data [15:13] yay :) [15:13] cyphermox: file a bug against what exactly? [15:13] hallyn: just a seconf [15:14] jbicha: you are too late :p [15:14] hallyn: overlay-scrollbar [15:14] wow, people come and go so quickly around here [15:14] :) [15:14] cyphermox: thanks, will do that [15:14] seb128: so is it appropriate to assign this dbus message spam bug as a beta2 milestone? [15:15] what are the implications of me doing that? [15:15] i cause some annoyance to the release team if i don't fix it on time? [15:17] (filed bug 957054) [15:17] Launchpad bug 957054 in overlay-scrollbar "scrollbar disappears before i can click to drag it" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/957054 [15:17] desrt, that's ok, they will just move target if it's not done [15:17] yes, we have a script to mass-move old milestones [15:17] hallyn, it's a dup of bug #949414 [15:17] Launchpad bug 949414 in gtk "Some GTK+3 events are not emitted when using a touchpad (but are with a mouse)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/949414 [15:17] aww? i don't have the ability to single-handedly delay the entire release? :) [15:18] * desrt pretends that he does anyway as extra motivation to fix it [15:20] desrt, ;-) [15:27] seb128: grrr. thanks [15:27] hallyn, yw [15:28] hallyn, bug #956062 as well which was the most recent bug reported on overlay-scrollbars before yours [15:28] Launchpad bug 956062 in overlay-scrollbar "Impossible to catch scrollbar with touchpad in unmaximized nautilus windows" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/956062 [15:28] not 100% sure i agree with 'medium', but i guess bug priorities aren't based on the amount of hair i pull out :) [15:28] ok, thanks, then i'll carry on [15:28] hallyn, it's specific to some devices, doesn't happen with a mouse, but yeah, don't stop at the settings they don't reflect really how actively things are tracked [15:29] hallyn, btw it would be good to check open bugs before you report a new one ;-) [15:29] none of the ones it showed me based on its guesses were it [15:29] hallyn, like the most recent bug on overlay-scrollbar has a title pretty similar to yours, how did you miss it? [15:29] the gt3 one, i would never have guesed based on the title [15:30] right, but overlay-scrollbar has a least 2 bugs about it in the most recent 5 bugs [15:30] open the list, check recent bugs, it's not that hard ;-) [15:30] seb128: bc i count on lp to give me the suspected dups [15:30] that, and bc it was mixed in with 3-4 bugs yesterday that made my laptop unusable (super key not working, etc) [15:30] hum, k, that doesn't work great indeed :-( [15:31] hallyn, did you fix the super key issue? [15:31] i thought it worked better than it apparently does [15:31] i didn't fix it, it just started working this morning [15:31] so i expect it to fail after next reboot :( [15:31] hallyn, it doesn't work if you are on an empty workspace [15:31] hallyn, or if nautilus doesn't display the background [15:31] hallyn, did you turn nautilus handling of the background off? [15:31] wh... uh, that's deemed a bug i hope? [15:31] yes [15:31] there you go [15:32] yes, known issue [15:32] ok, just wanted to make sure it's deemed an issue [15:32] you are just on a non standard, non testing config [15:32] non tested [15:32] someone's gotta do it :) [15:32] i.e you tweak hidden options you are on your own ;-) [15:32] imho we need to start talking about reducing the number of option for next cycle [15:32] laptop's too slow, i think that's why i turned it off [15:32] we have too many bugs because people tweak random crackful things [15:33] hey! i stuck to 100% things i can set with myUnity [15:33] well, still too much, see it broke your super key :p [15:33] i thought iw as being good :) [15:33] true dat [15:33] it's hard to cover all possible option combinaison [15:33] ok, thanks. never would've guessed. so maybe i'll turn that back on [15:34] (i'll avoid talking about how 15 years ago i could map keys to whatever i wanted, as well as suspend and resume and make my own bread :) [15:34] thanks, ttyl. [15:35] bye [15:52] chrisccoulson: defaults-builder currently uses ./usr/lib/firefox-addons/distrib [15:52] erk, let's try this again [15:52] pitti - oh, yes. we need to move that :) [15:52] chrisccoulson: defaults-builder currently uses /usr/lib/firefox-addons/distribution/distribution.ini [15:52] chrisccoulson: I suppose that needs to move to /usr/lib/firefox/distribution/distribution.ini now? [15:52] yeah, it does. sorry, i was going to propose a merge for that ;) [15:52] chrisccoulson: the former was a workaround path while we had the version specific firefox paths, right? [15:53] chrisccoulson: np, doing now [15:53] bug 956899, FTR [15:53] Launchpad bug 956899 in ubuntu-defaults-builder "Regression: firefox bookmarks not imported anymore" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/956899 [15:53] thanks [15:54] pitti - yeah, the former was just a workaround. i've moved the whole installation location now :) [16:00] chrisccoulson: is that planned to be done in SRUs, too? [16:00] this would be tricky, as it would break existing defaults pacakges [16:01] pitti - sort of. i've made an exception for the oneiric package to leave the distribution.ini file where it is though [16:06] mterry: hey Mike, how are you? [16:06] mterry: do you have some time to check the patch in bug 944035 and sponsor this? [16:06] Launchpad bug 944035 in ibus "pinyin not listed by default on a fresh installation" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/944035 [16:07] pitti, yeah, I know I didn't reply to bug, but I was going to look at it today [16:07] pitti, I saw the fedora patch, was reviewing it [16:07] pitti, I don't think it will require an FFe like the commenter does? Seems just like a bug fix (though a bit of a hefty patch) [16:16] oh, hm... it does at least change UI... [16:19] mterry: well, a bit, but I really consider it a bug [16:19] it's quite useless by default righ tnow [16:19] and that used to work AFAIR [16:19] mterry: thanks for looking at this! === JackyAlcine_ is now known as jalcine [17:16] hm, where does gnome-settings stores the proxy info (http proxy) these days? [17:17] mvo, org.gnome.system.proxy.http [17:17] mvo, gsettings get org.gnome.system.proxy.http host '' [17:17] ups [17:17] mvo, gsettings get org.gnome.system.proxy.http host [17:18] seb128: ok, I don't get it, I set it to "manual" and http://localhost, but gsettings get org.gnome.system.proxy.http enabled says false? [17:19] mvo, enabled is deprecated [17:19] host = '' is no proxy == disabled [17:19] aha, ok [17:19] if there is a value it's enabled [17:19] t [17:19] ta [17:19] yw [17:39] good night everyone, have a nice weekend! [17:40] FTR, I'll be off for most of Monday, getting my remaining two wisdom teeth pulled [17:40] I'll be online in the morning for doing some patch piloting, though [17:41] pitti, have a great weekend [17:57] heh - http://goo.gl/Y9qaM [18:03] chrisccoulson, i love it :) [18:07] man. internet memes are so lame now [18:21] aarrgh [18:21] * Sweetshark cant get into chinstrap [18:26] * Sweetshark can get into chinstrap [18:27] pitti: good luck with the teeth stuff! [18:27] pitti: 3.5.0-1ubuntu1 uploading to chinstrap btw [18:32] ugh [18:32] my apartment is burning down again [18:32] or perhaps not... [18:33] Sweetshark: I assume you meant 3.5.1-1ubuntu1? [18:34] desrt, oh, that sounds quite serious [18:34] perhaps someone in your apartment is building libreoffice? [18:35] :) [18:35] the alarm bell sounded [18:35] but only for a moment [18:35] maybe it melted [18:35] that seems unlikely [18:35] it's just over there... [18:36] chrisccoulson: that was nice & quick to get the Firefox 11 SRU out already :) [18:36] jbicha, micahg was involved too ;) [18:37] jbicha: was actually on the slower side unfortunately (not due to chrisccoulson, he was plenty fast) [18:38] jbicha, also, we have the next beta available already: https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-next/ [18:38] for precise too ;) [18:38] chrisccoulson: I'll probably have to add that PPA, stable Firefox is too boring [18:38] yeah, you should do :) [18:42] micahg: indeed [18:43] micahg, chrisccoulson, desrt: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNnAvTTaJjM libreoffice building soundtrack [18:44] chrisccoulson: oh FF12 is still pending publication to the PPA, I guess I'll wait a few more minutes [18:44] hey jbicha, how are you? [18:44] jbicha, how is the feedback on the new shell? ;-) [18:47] seb128: not too much feedback, maybe people didn't notice yet? Cinnamon's broken but the Mint devs apparently don't care yet so neither do I [18:47] jbicha: it's awesome :D [18:47] I can see the news [18:47] seb128: i think anyone who is running gnome-shell on precise was running it out of the PPA already.... so no big change for most people [18:47] "Ubuntu breaks Mint to try to get users back" [18:49] seb128: is there a known bug with not being able to add new favourites to the unity panel? [18:50] desrt, launcher you mean? the left bar? [18:50] ya [18:50] no, and works for me [18:50] what did you do? [18:50] it's never worked for me [18:50] and i've tried a lot of times with a lot of versions [18:50] i do a search and then drag an icon [18:50] it even says "Drop to add application" when i hover the bar [18:50] but nothing happens [18:50] urg [18:51] if you run an app, right click on the launcher icon and pick "lock..." [18:51] does it work? [18:51] i.e does it stay after you close the app? [18:51] yes [18:51] thanks :) [18:51] yw [18:51] but the dnd should be working, it works for me [18:51] Java apps don't pin to the launcher [18:51] how do i change the position of the icon? [18:51] desrt, dnd [18:52] it seems to move the entire launcher instead of just the icon [18:52] desrt, drag out to the right a bit [18:52] desrt, either stay pressed for a second, iOS way [18:52] desrt, or go right [18:52] oh. that works. [18:52] both of those work [18:52] thanks [18:52] yw [18:52] seb128: the shell 3.90 in universe tends to crash. i downgraded to a ppa version myself in order to get anything done :) [18:52] urg? [18:53] jbicha, ^ [18:53] topyli, universe should be basically the same as the ppa I think [18:53] ok, dinner time [18:53] bbl [18:53] i know. somehow it crashes more eagerly. i'm running ~ubuntu3. 4 and 5 like to crash too [18:53] have a good w.e everybody for those I will not see again (no work tonight but I might let IRC on a bit while hacking) [18:56] seb128: hacking != work? :) [18:57] seb128: can you remind me what is the freeze for beta? [18:59] !schedule [18:59] The Ubuntu Precise Pangolin release schedule can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule [18:59] convenient. thanks. [18:59] crikey. all of next week [18:59] * desrt starts planning for all the things he can break in that time [19:00] hello all!!! [19:00] nessita: hello! [19:00] seb128: may I ask a very quick favor from you? [19:01] anyone with a non-english locale: would you please pastebin the content of your ~/ .config/user-dirs.dirs ? [19:14] nessita: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/xdg-user-dirs/+pots/xdg-user-dirs might help :) [19:14] dobey: looking! [19:16] 文档 is "Documents" currently, in the simplified chinese translation :) [19:28] nessita, hey [19:28] nessita, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/886785/ [19:28] seb128: thanks!!! [19:28] nessita, yw [19:29] nessita, you can probably get the same by running LANG=fr LC_ALL=fr_FR.UTF-8 xdg-user-dirs-update [19:29] seb128: did not know that, will take notes [19:31] nessita, you might need to --force if it does nothing [19:31] seb128: yeap, thanks! [19:31] nessita, yw === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away