bschaefer | thumper, ping | 00:10 |
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thumper | bschaefer: pong | 00:14 |
bschaefer | thumper, hey, so I finally started looking into this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/885304 | 00:14 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 885304 in unity (Ubuntu) "Launcher - When Launcher already has keyboard focus, Alt-F1 doesn't exit focus" [Low,Triaged] | 00:14 |
bschaefer | thumper, and I had talked with jay about using signals for shortcuts | 00:15 |
bschaefer | thumper, as a way of handling it, but that would surly cause an ABI break at this point... | 00:15 |
thumper | bschaefer: abi break where? | 00:16 |
bschaefer | thumper, if I were to do that | 00:16 |
bschaefer | thumper, none right now! | 00:16 |
thumper | right, but since unity is an plugin itself, an abi break in unity is fine | 00:16 |
thumper | in UnityCore is more of an issue | 00:16 |
bschaefer | thumper, ooo, hmm well what im thinking it would cause an abi break in nux | 00:16 |
bschaefer | thumper, but also doesn't compiz handle a lot of shortcuts? | 00:17 |
thumper | bschaefer: ok, perhaps I'm not clear on your potential solution] | 00:17 |
bschaefer | thumper, ok, so what Im thinking for the shortcut controller | 00:17 |
bschaefer | thumper, wouldl be to have nux look for certain key combos and emit signals for these shortcuts | 00:18 |
bschaefer | thumper, but at the same time I might not now what im talking about | 00:18 |
bschaefer | thumper, so like a mouse_down signal you would have an alt_f1 signal, which would get emited when alt + f1 is pressed | 00:20 |
bschaefer | and depending on the who has focus it would get that signal | 00:20 |
thumper | haha... | 00:20 |
thumper | not easy | 00:20 |
thumper | and probably not worth the effort IMO | 00:20 |
thumper | I think it would add a lot of complexity for not a lot of gain | 00:21 |
bschaefer | thumper, hmm, yeah. I was looking through unityshell didn't see to much of a shortcut handler | 00:21 |
bschaefer | just making sure the super key was binded | 00:22 |
thumper | yeah... that is a bit messy | 00:22 |
bschaefer | thumper, ok, ill see if I can think of another way to handle this! Off to dig through source code | 00:22 |
bschaefer | thumper, overall a worse case for this will be to hardcode the checking for now | 00:22 |
thumper | bschaefer: let me see if I remember the problem | 00:24 |
thumper | on alt-f1 we entre keyboard nav mode | 00:24 |
thumper | on certain key-combos we exit keyboard nav mode | 00:24 |
thumper | can you point me at the leave code? | 00:24 |
bschaefer | yeah, right now when we hit ALT is quits key nav mode | 00:24 |
bschaefer | but then alt+f1 starts keynav mode again | 00:24 |
bschaefer | over and over again, instead of toggle | 00:25 |
thumper | where is the code to exit keynav? | 00:25 |
bschaefer | LauncherController.cpp:1123 | 00:26 |
bschaefer | opps 1159 | 00:26 |
bschaefer | is where the call is to quit key nav | 00:26 |
bschaefer | but it gets called on an ALT press, so when you press alt it quits, then pressing F1 starts keynav mode again | 00:27 |
bschaefer | a really quick soultion would be to keep a bool around when alt is used to quit, then when you start keynav mode check if alt was the reason you quit | 00:27 |
bschaefer | if it was then dont start key nav mode | 00:27 |
bschaefer | but that runs into other problems | 00:29 |
thumper | hmm... | 00:29 |
bschaefer | the other quick solution I had was to check for each alt shortcut combo... | 00:30 |
bschaefer | if alt+f1 down, quit, alt+tab, quit...etc | 00:30 |
thumper | ok... | 00:30 |
bschaefer | those are all bad | 00:30 |
thumper | why does left exit keynav? | 00:30 |
bschaefer | I think it was because the launcher use to hide | 00:31 |
bschaefer | I didn't add that code | 00:31 |
thumper | which is the alt key? | 00:31 |
bschaefer | MENU | 00:31 |
thumper | ew | 00:32 |
thumper | so what is the menu key? | 00:32 |
thumper | not RWIN surely | 00:32 |
bschaefer | nope that is the right super key | 00:32 |
bschaefer | wait what is the menu key then? | 00:32 |
thumper | I have one between right alt and right ctrl | 00:33 |
bschaefer | other then ALT, looking at my keyboard I don't know what the Menu key would be | 00:33 |
bschaefer | o yeah | 00:33 |
bschaefer | looks like the Menu on is left alt | 00:33 |
thumper | ok, my suggest solution to this is relatively easy | 00:33 |
thumper | don't exit on alt keypress | 00:33 |
thumper | check for Alt-F1 | 00:33 |
thumper | and exit | 00:33 |
thumper | see how that works out | 00:34 |
bschaefer | what about alt+tab? | 00:34 |
bschaefer | I had that before | 00:34 |
bschaefer | and then I asked that question | 00:34 |
bschaefer | and alt+` | 00:34 |
thumper | ok... | 00:34 |
bschaefer | there are only a finite amount of alt shortcuts though | 00:34 |
thumper | how about this then | 00:34 |
thumper | ... | 00:35 |
bschaefer | we could keep a list of shortcuts connected with alt, and check if alt is down + any of those | 00:35 |
* thumper thinks | 00:35 | |
bschaefer | so you only have to add to the list | 00:35 |
thumper | this is kinda naff | 00:35 |
bschaefer | if a new alt shortcut comes in | 00:35 |
thumper | can't we just see if any keypress + the alt modifier comes in? | 00:36 |
thumper | and if so, exit keynav? | 00:36 |
thumper | would that work? | 00:36 |
bschaefer | hmm I dont see why not | 00:36 |
bschaefer | which could be kept in the default | 00:37 |
thumper | not sure how it would interact with alt-tab though | 00:37 |
thumper | so you'd have to try it out | 00:37 |
bschaefer | alright, let me mess around with that | 00:37 |
bschaefer | should have something soon :) | 00:38 |
bschaefer | XK_Menu | 00:38 |
bschaefer | is the Menu key | 00:38 |
bschaefer | NUX_VK_MENU is left alt | 00:39 |
bschaefer | for some reason... | 00:39 |
haz3lnut | Is there a Unity expert in the house? | 00:41 |
haz3lnut | Particuar issue: I can't load unity. Gnome shell loads and functions nomrally. I even installed KDE and it works too. | 00:41 |
haz3lnut | I created a new user and started fresh with a clean home folder, but Unity nor Unity 2d will work. Again, Gnome shell is fine. | 00:41 |
haz3lnut | I'm thinking a library issue, but how do I go about fixing it? | 00:41 |
haz3lnut | Tried uninstall re-install, but no go. | 00:42 |
haz3lnut | It seems compiz is not decorating the windows. | 00:43 |
bschaefer | thumper, that works well :), putting it in the default case for the switch statement, if none of the other keys do anything AND the alt is down, exit | 00:43 |
haz3lnut | Any pointers to a unity expert channel? | 00:43 |
thumper | haz3lnut: what do you mean when you say they won't work? | 00:44 |
bschaefer | thumper, now the only problem is the hud, and breaking on just a single alt tab | 00:44 |
bschaefer | tap | 00:44 |
haz3lnut | No top bar, no window decor, no desktop icons | 00:45 |
thumper | haz3lnut: sounds like it is failing to load | 00:45 |
thumper | haz3lnut: which version or ubuntu? | 00:45 |
haz3lnut | <thumper> yup | 00:45 |
haz3lnut | 11.10 | 00:45 |
thumper | and you are up to date with updates? | 00:46 |
haz3lnut | yes, all | 00:46 |
haz3lnut | that's why I need an expert | 00:46 |
thumper | go to a terminal, and type "unity --reset" | 00:46 |
haz3lnut | If it was easy, I would have fixed it already :-) | 00:46 |
* thumper wouldn't call himself an expert | 00:46 | |
haz3lnut | <thumper> I'm in KDE right now. I'll have to try the reset later. | 00:47 |
thumper | the reset may just reset settings | 00:47 |
thumper | not actually start it | 00:47 |
thumper | although I'm not sure | 00:47 |
haz3lnut | Thing is, I started with a completely clean home folder, and it still wouldn't load. Gnome shell started right up. That's why I'm thinking a lib issue. | 00:49 |
thumper | could well be | 00:52 |
thumper | I'm not entirely sure how to check though | 00:52 |
haz3lnut | REQUEST: if a unity guru shows up, let me know. I need help :-) I'd like to get unity to load without a complete system re-install. | 00:53 |
bschaefer | thumper, i found a solution to the hud alt problem | 00:55 |
bschaefer | thumper, its in unityshell, when the hud is about to show... | 00:56 |
bschaefer | exit key nav | 00:57 |
thumper | haz3lnut: I'm assuming you did a "apt-get install unity --reinstall" | 01:10 |
thumper | bschaefer: that'd work | 01:10 |
bschaefer | preparing a branch righ tnow | 01:10 |
haz3lnut | I did an apt-get remove --purge unity, and an apt-get remove --purge compiz, then a re-install of both. | 01:11 |
haz3lnut | There is some conflicting lib on my system...has to be. I just don;t really know how to look for it. | 01:15 |
haz3lnut | I can;t believe there are 101 channel members and only 3 actually channeling. | 01:18 |
haz3lnut | In days of old, this channel would be popping. | 01:19 |
haz3lnut | I guess time has changed. they're all on facebook. | 01:19 |
haz3lnut | but I wanna +1 my vote for google+ so far seems like facebook for grown-ups. :-) | 01:20 |
thumper | perhaps some of us are on 30 odd channels :) | 01:21 |
haz3lnut | lol, I guess so. Multitasking is the wave of the future, right? | 01:22 |
thumper | unfortunately I have only one core | 01:22 |
haz3lnut | Dude! how do you manage? | 01:23 |
thumper | oh, my laptop has more, but I have just one brain | 01:25 |
haz3lnut | but the brain is multi-threaded, and distributed, so it should be no problem. | 01:26 |
haz3lnut | I'm assuming this is a channel of unity lovers? likers, maybe? | 01:27 |
haz3lnut | I cannot stand gnome shell. tried and it was an epic fail | 01:28 |
haz3lnut | on KDE now because at least it's working. | 01:28 |
haz3lnut | not impressed with cinnamon. | 01:28 |
haz3lnut | I actually like unity. although the side bar needs a little work. | 01:29 |
thumper | haz3lnut: I just saw something | 01:35 |
thumper | haz3lnut: do you have libxfixes3 installed? | 01:35 |
haz3lnut | one moment | 01:36 |
haz3lnut | yes, and the libxfixes3-dev | 01:38 |
haz3lnut | <thumper> yes | 01:39 |
bschaefer | haz3lnut, when you get a chance to run 'unity --reset' there should be some warning message/error message that could be helpful | 01:41 |
haz3lnut | <bschaefer> will have to restart to try | 01:42 |
haz3lnut | brb | 01:46 |
bschaefer | thumper, if you want to take a quick look at the diff | 01:49 |
bschaefer | https://code.launchpad.net/~brandontschaefer/unity/fix.885304/+merge/97781 | 01:49 |
thumper | ok | 01:50 |
bschaefer | thumper, and ill be making an autopilot test for this | 01:50 |
thumper | :) | 01:51 |
haz3lnut | <bschaefer> it seemed to work for a little bit, but when I ran "unity --reset" it took away my title bar and stuff. | 02:11 |
thumper | haz3lnut: after that try just "unity" | 02:13 |
haz3lnut | I appear to be somewhat working, however there must be a compiz problem or something. | 02:15 |
haz3lnut | When I double click title bar for shade rollup effect, the window AND TITLEBAR disappear. | 02:17 |
haz3lnut | now I'm basically in unity 2d | 02:19 |
haz3lnut | no effects | 02:19 |
haz3lnut | If this was a settings issue, a clean home folder should have fixed it. | 02:20 |
haz3lnut | unless some settings are being stored elsewhere that I don;t know about. Guru anyone? | 02:21 |
bschaefer | haz3lnut, hmm trying running this to see if your missing some support for unity 3d | 02:21 |
bschaefer | /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p | 02:21 |
haz3lnut | got yes, yes, yes... up the wazzu :-) .... Unity 3D supported: yes | 02:23 |
bschaefer | hmm :(, not really sure | 02:25 |
haz3lnut | I guess I'm ready for a complete re-install | 02:27 |
haz3lnut | brb | 02:28 |
haz3lnut | ok, I'm back in cinnamon | 02:30 |
haz3lnut | Ya know, I don;t like any of these. Unity is actually nice...when it was working :-) | 02:31 |
haz3lnut | by "these", I mean KDE, Cinnamon, or Gnome Shell | 02:31 |
JackyAlcine | Eh, KDE holds its own. | 02:35 |
JackyAlcine | Doesn't try to fit in. | 02:35 |
JackyAlcine | but Cinnamon's trying to be the 2.5 (Gnome 2 + 3 tweaks), ya dig? lol | 02:35 |
haz3lnut | I dig. Using cinnamon now. was on kde earlier. kde not so bad, just overly complex. I like the slimmed down interface of unity. unity needs to add a bit more control, maybe need something between untiy/kde. | 02:37 |
bschaefer | thomi, ping, should have a small autopilot test for you look at! | 02:53 |
bschaefer | https://code.launchpad.net/~brandontschaefer/unity/fix.885304/+merge/97781 | 02:53 |
thomi | cool | 02:53 |
* thomi looks | 02:53 | |
bschaefer | thomi, should be a simple test to show that the alt+f1 now toggles on/off | 02:53 |
thomi | you need to set a commit message, or your review won't be picked up by the merge bot :) | 02:54 |
bschaefer | I thought I did | 02:55 |
bschaefer | * Added autopilot test for toggling alt+f1 mode | 02:55 |
bschaefer | should be the commit message... | 02:55 |
thomi | no, for the merge | 02:55 |
thomi | you need to click the "Set Commit Message" link on the MP page | 02:55 |
thomi | Previously the merge-bot used the MP description, but we've stopped that | 02:56 |
thomi | since it leave the commit log in a mess | 02:56 |
bschaefer | oo | 02:56 |
thomi | bschaefer: but, try as I might, i can't find anything wrong with that autopilot test. | 02:56 |
bschaefer | thomi, sweet! | 02:56 |
thomi | which is annoying - as you know, I try my hardest to be picky :P | 02:56 |
thomi | you have defeated me! | 02:56 |
bschaefer | thomi, haha yeah, but it was a very simple test :) | 02:56 |
thomi | I hereby promote you to "autopilot engineer, first class" | 02:57 |
bschaefer | thomi, finally, I will be able sleep at night! | 02:57 |
bschaefer | thomi, sweet! | 02:57 |
bschaefer | hmm I hope my commit message isn't to crazy | 02:57 |
thomi | :) | 02:57 |
thomi | bschaefer: wait, the commit message should be one line only | 02:58 |
thomi | sorry, i should ahve said | 02:58 |
bschaefer | haha yeah | 02:58 |
thomi | it should be a single-line description of the fix | 02:58 |
thomi | when you do a bzr log with the 'linbe' format, you only see the first line of the message, so make it count :) | 02:59 |
bschaefer | yeah haha, like a normal commit | 02:59 |
thomi | exactly | 02:59 |
thomi | approves, BTW | 02:59 |
thomi | *approved | 02:59 |
bschaefer | thanks! | 02:59 |
bschaefer | ill put it up for review now | 02:59 |
bschaefer | thumper, https://code.launchpad.net/~brandontschaefer/unity/fix.885304/+merge/97781 | 03:00 |
bschaefer | should be ready for a merge | 03:00 |
thomi | mhall119: ping! | 03:07 |
thumper | bschaefer: do we have an AP tests to show that alt-tab gets us out of keynav mode? | 03:07 |
bschaefer | thumper, yup, in the autopilot test it starts key nav twice | 03:10 |
bschaefer | thumper, then check that key nav mode is not active | 03:10 |
thumper | bschaefer: but is there one for alt-tab? | 03:10 |
thumper | we don't want to regress on that do we? | 03:10 |
bschaefer | oo | 03:11 |
bschaefer | thumper, I can add some more | 03:11 |
thumper | that'd be good | 03:11 |
thumper | :) | 03:11 |
bschaefer | alright :) | 03:11 |
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thumper | thomi: I'll leave that in your hands then :) | 03:11 |
thomi | huh? | 03:13 |
thomi | to review it you mean? | 03:13 |
bschaefer | thomi, ill be adding test | 03:14 |
bschaefer | adding more* | 03:14 |
thomi | cool | 03:16 |
bschaefer | thomi, hey, so calling alt+tab, should I just include the switcher emulator or do this? | 03:39 |
bschaefer | self.keybinding_hold("switcher/reveal_normal") | 03:39 |
bschaefer | self.keybinding_tap("switcher/reveal_normal") | 03:39 |
bschaefer | sleep(1) | 03:39 |
bschaefer | self.keybinding_release("switcher/reveal_normal") | 03:39 |
bschaefer | to emulate an alt+tab | 03:39 |
thomi | bschaefer: just use self.switcher | 03:39 |
bschaefer | thomi, idk why I didn't think launcher had that...haha | 03:40 |
thomi | all test classes that derive from AutopilotTestCase should have that | 03:41 |
bschaefer | yeah, I just remembered that...I had just added the self.dash in there | 03:41 |
bschaefer | thomi, ok, just pushed 2 more test | 03:53 |
bschaefer | diff needs to update... | 03:53 |
bschaefer | thomi, I hope it still meets your standards ;) | 03:59 |
bschaefer | dammit I see one problem! | 04:00 |
bschaefer | was missing a new line | 04:00 |
thomi | bschaefer: got a MP link? | 04:00 |
thomi | nvm, found it | 04:01 |
bschaefer | https://code.launchpad.net/~brandontschaefer/unity/fix.885304/+merge/97781 | 04:01 |
bschaefer | thomi, sorry, I just assume everyone is always up to date with what Im doing haha | 04:01 |
bschaefer | (jokingly of course) | 04:01 |
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* thomi waits for the diff | 04:09 | |
bschaefer | well that last diff is just a new line after the first test | 04:10 |
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bschaefer | ugg longest diff update for a single line changed, just one '\n' was added! | 04:14 |
thomi | bschaefer: approved | 04:16 |
* thomi -> off fishing for the weekend | 04:16 | |
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angeloc | i'm intrested in bug 924636, can you give some hints? | 09:52 |
ubot5 | Launchpad bug 924636 in unity (Ubuntu) "Number shortcut overlay won't show if mouse hovers launcher bar area" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/924636 | 09:52 |
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mhr3 | kamstrup, is there some known issue with dee and the collate keys? i'm seeing very weird results if i leave LC_COLLATE to default - and looking at gwibber it's doing setlocale(LC_COLLATE, "C")... do you know why that's the case? | 10:39 |
mhr3 | (it works fine in gwibber, doesn't otherwise) | 10:39 |
kamstrup | mhr3: the dee collation funcs use the locale specific collator... | 10:43 |
kamstrup | gwibber is sorting numbers as strings right? | 10:43 |
kamstrup | that might not work depending on locale... perhaps..? | 10:43 |
kamstrup | when locale is C the collation func should just be memcmp | 10:44 |
mhr3 | kamstrup, the problem i'm seeing though is that Index.lookup doesn't return any results if LC_COLLATE != "C" | 10:44 |
kamstrup | ?! | 10:44 |
mhr3 | yep... | 10:45 |
kamstrup | is lookup() maybe doing a strcmp() or memcmp() where it should have used a collation key? | 10:45 |
mhr3 | ok, i see you don't know why is that, so i'm gonna dig deeper | 10:45 |
kamstrup | at least the idea was that it should support different collations... there seems to be a bug there | 10:46 |
mhr3 | the tests pass in dee though, and it is doing prefix lookups | 10:46 |
kamstrup | right | 10:46 |
kamstrup | perhaps one needs to set more than just LC_COLLATE? | 10:47 |
kamstrup | it's using g_utf8_collate_key() under the hood | 10:47 |
mhr3 | aaah, tests use C locale! | 10:49 |
mhr3 | that's why they pass | 10:49 |
* kamstrup wonders why we never got a bug report on that one | 10:57 | |
angeloc | 831! | 11:00 |
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akgraner | hey all do we have any official documentation yet for compiz config settings mangers in 12.04 | 12:54 |
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akgraner | s/managers/manager | 12:54 |
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mhall119 | anybody know what thomi was pinging me about last night? | 14:15 |
mhall119 | akgraner: have you seen the developer docs for unity? | 14:16 |
akgraner | mhall119, ummm no I don't think so - but I've looked at so many docs in the last week my eyes hurt - got a link? | 14:17 |
mhall119 | akgraner: first go to http://developer.ubuntu.com/wp-admin/ to log in, the go to http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/technologies/unity/ | 14:18 |
mhall119 | they haven't been published yet, waiting on some final reviews and a video | 14:18 |
mhall119 | but they're 99% done | 14:18 |
mhall119 | none, some URLs may change once we publish them | 14:19 |
mhall119 | s/none/note/ | 14:19 |
akgraner | mhall119, awesome thanks - yep we verify all links before it goes to the printer :-) | 14:19 |
akgraner | mhall119, :-( I'm in some sort of loop...:-/ | 14:23 |
mhall119 | ugh, one second | 14:25 |
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hallyn | is this the place to mention problems with the scrollbar? | 14:40 |
hallyn | if i do "edit->keyboard shortcuts" in a terminal, and try to scroll, the scrollbar | 14:42 |
hallyn | allways appears when i'm on the menu, but appears outside of it. then disappears when i move to click to drag it. | 14:42 |
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angeloc | mhr3: have you a minute? | 14:51 |
mhr3 | angeloc, hey, sup | 14:53 |
angeloc | mhr3:thank you for your time, i'm solving bug 837810, it has a low importance but it's really annoying for me! | 14:54 |
ubot5 | Launchpad bug 837810 in Ayatana Design "Dash - The "Desktop" folder is not accessible through the dash" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/837810 | 14:54 |
angeloc | mhr3, point 2 of the desired resolution ask to add it to favorites folder is folder.vala | 14:56 |
angeloc | mhr3: i'll add it to foreach (var uri in favorites) if not already in .gtk-bookmarks, ok? | 14:57 |
angeloc | mhr3: "foreach (var uri in favorites)" is into "update" function | 14:59 |
mhr3 | angeloc, i dont really like that | 15:00 |
mhr3 | moreover i see it | 15:00 |
mhr3 | oh, they want it without search as well | 15:01 |
mhr3 | but actually i see it without search as well | 15:02 |
angeloc | mhr3: yes, they want it in favourites, also if user has not desktop in nautilus favourites, so in .gtk-bookmarks | 15:05 |
angeloc | mhr3: i think the best way is to add desktop automatically only if desktop it's not in .gtk-bookmarks | 15:06 |
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angeloc | mhr3: the strangeness is the search doesn't work only for desktop folder, other folders, like downloads, music, images, are shown correctly | 15:10 |
mhr3 | angeloc, fine, add it in there | 15:11 |
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angeloc | mhr3:done adding static desktop folder to favourites, do you have an idea why desktop folder doesn't show up on search like any regular folder? | 16:25 |
mhr3 | angeloc, take a look at the prefix_search method? | 16:31 |
angeloc | mhr3: i think that the problem is with internationalization, i'm italian, and desktop folder is translated to "scrivania" | 16:35 |
angeloc | mhr3:it works when i search for scrivania | 16:35 |
mhr3 | angeloc, then it works as it should | 16:35 |
angeloc | mhr3: i think nobody searches for their translated word for desktop... | 16:36 |
mhr3 | why should someone search for "desktop" if everything in the system is their own language? | 16:37 |
angeloc | mhr3: i think that "desktop" is universally the word for desktop, nobody in italy call their desktop "scrivania" | 16:38 |
mhr3 | sorry we had this discussion many times for various contexts, and the conclusion is that searches aren't supposed to special-case english variants | 16:38 |
mhr3 | if nobody uses scrivania, why isn't it "desktop" in italian as well? | 16:39 |
mhr3 | also that doesn't mean you can make the same assumption for the other ~100 languages | 16:40 |
angeloc | mhr3: italy is a strange country! I think that localization team did a mistake calling desktop "scrivania" | 16:40 |
mhr3 | angeloc, :) open a bug then | 16:40 |
angeloc | mhr3: you are right! | 16:41 |
angeloc | mhr3: so I think the bug is done, i'll merge propose it in a moment | 16:43 |
mhr3 | cool | 16:43 |
Trevinho | mhr3m angeloc... Yes we're wrong in translating too many things | 16:47 |
Trevinho | we look like more Spanish or French guys (o offense, of course! :)) who translate everything | 16:47 |
Trevinho | "Scrivania" is really baaaad | 16:47 |
angeloc | Trevinho: yes, scrivania, no worse word ... | 16:48 |
angeloc | nobody uses it | 16:48 |
Trevinho | angeloc: there are also other examples... I guess you should poke the translation team | 16:49 |
Trevinho | there are too many things too "italian" :) | 16:49 |
angeloc | Trevinho: do you think? I always thought that there is a review mechanism and using scrivania was acknowlodeged by a large number of people | 16:50 |
Trevinho | Also the default title should be "Ubuntu Desktop" and translating it into "Scrivania di Ubuntu" is awful... This causes the Ubuntu word to be removed, and that's even worse | 16:50 |
Trevinho | angeloc: I'm not too much into that, but Imho is wrong, Who really uses the term "scrivania" here?! | 16:51 |
angeloc | Trevinho, nobody! To italians here, do you think we should solicit some translations review? | 16:52 |
Trevinho | angeloc: totally. | 16:52 |
Trevinho | telling them to not remove the Ubuntu word from there | 16:52 |
Trevinho | angeloc: even if... in Precise I don't have that translated... do you? | 16:52 |
angeloc | Trevinho, i don't know, i use precise in english but folder names are inherited by a previous oneiric installation in italian | 16:54 |
Trevinho | angeloc: ok... I've the same | 16:55 |
angeloc | Trevinho, i'll try to make a full installation in italian on virtual machine as soon as possible | 16:55 |
mhall119 | davidcalle: ping | 17:11 |
davidcalle | mhall119, hey, I'm in a meeting, can I ping you back in an hour? | 17:11 |
mhall119 | sure | 17:12 |
mhall119 | kenvandine: I'm liking the gwibber lens :) | 17:29 |
kenvandine | getting better? | 17:29 |
kenvandine | good | 17:29 |
kenvandine | :-D | 17:29 |
mhall119 | I've just started using it | 17:30 |
mhall119 | between it and notify-osd popups, I almost don't need to open gwibber at all | 17:31 |
kenvandine | it still needs quite a bit, but i think with the currently available renderers it is as good as it can get | 17:31 |
kenvandine | i would like to get it to the point where we didn't need the client at all | 17:31 |
kenvandine | the biggest problem now is it truncates posts | 17:32 |
kenvandine | i want something more like what you get in the ubuntu tv demo, where selecting a post would show you more detail | 17:32 |
mhall119 | yeah, lots of people have been wanting that | 17:33 |
mhall119 | maybe we should look at making it part of the Lens/Scope data structure | 17:34 |
mhall119 | activate_uri can return a "show more details" response on click | 17:34 |
kenvandine | mhall119, the beautiful part of making the lens more useful is i won't have to do UI work :) | 17:38 |
angeloc | mhr3: cannot understand File.get_parse_name, i have to show the basename only, why use get_parse_name? I have to use it instead of Uri.unescape_string? | 17:48 |
mhr3 | angeloc, no you do Path.get_basename (file.get_parse_name()) | 17:51 |
angeloc | mhr3: understood | 17:52 |
davidcalle | mhall119, ping | 17:53 |
angeloc | mhr3: i have to change also the present code? | 18:00 |
angeloc | display_name = Uri.unescape_string (uri); | 18:00 |
angeloc | display_name = Filename.display_basename (display_name); | 18:00 |
mhr3 | angeloc, no, get_parse_name doesn't work for non file uris | 18:01 |
angeloc | mhr3: I know, i mean making file object for uris then get uris with get_parse_name | 18:02 |
angeloc | mhr3 for desktop i duplicated present code, if this is not optimal for desktop folder, it's not optimal also for other folders | 18:04 |
rye | hi, i am sure this was possible earlier, but how do I unzoom if i press Super+R accidentally? Earlier i could scroll, now I can't (precise) | 18:21 |
mhr3 | andyrock, get_parse_name doesn't return uri | 18:22 |
mhr3 | whoops, sorry andyrock that wasn't for you | 18:23 |
andyrock | mhr3, no problem | 18:23 |
andyrock | :) | 18:23 |
mhr3 | rye, put your browser or something in full screen mode and press super+r again | 18:32 |
mhr3 | apparently that shortcut should be disabled | 18:33 |
tbf_ | what's the state of unity and wayland, btw? | 18:56 |
rye | mhr3: hm, thanks. either it should be disabled or it should keep showing mouse and react to scrolling :) | 19:00 |
PaoloRotolo | Hi all! | 19:12 |
AlanBell | http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2012/03/16/unity-window-quicklists anyone want to test that and let me know if I made any errors in the instructions | 19:33 |
FloatingGoat | is the new spread design headed for 12.04? | 19:50 |
htorque | hm, why is this backtrace incomplete? http://paste.ubuntu.com/886832/ - i installed all the -dbgsym packages (at least i think i did). | 20:04 |
seb128 | htorque, incomplete? what is missing? | 20:05 |
htorque | seb128: it's just showing function signatures | 20:07 |
seb128 | htorque, what else should it be showing? it has the name, source file and lines? | 20:07 |
htorque | seb128: oh dear, i confused the outputs of valgrind and gdb. sorry. :-) | 20:08 |
seb128 | htorque, right, I was going to ask ;-) | 20:09 |
seb128 | that seems a pretty complete valgrind log | 20:09 |
seb128 | but you mentioned gdb ;-) | 20:09 |
seb128 | well backtrace, which implies gdb | 20:09 |
htorque | i was using 'vgdb' :) | 20:09 |
AlanBell | FloatingGoat: not all of it | 20:15 |
jazzg4 | any one here | 20:54 |
jazzg4 | i have queston | 20:54 |
jazzg4 | what do you need to have 3d Unity i have some high specs on this computer but still gos to 2d unity | 20:56 |
AlanBell | jazzg4: you need the drivers for your graphics card to support openGL acceleration basically | 20:59 |
jazzg4 | i do nvida | 21:00 |
jazzg4 | i have nvidea gforce 7300se/7200gs 512 ram core duo 2 2.33 ghz | 21:01 |
jazzg4 | 3 gb of ram | 21:02 |
htorque_ | should i be worried about 6 million invalid writes of size 1 in one hour from compiz/unity/nux/???: http://paste.ubuntu.com/886919/ | 21:13 |
rye | meh, is it known that the thumb for the scollbar now appears outside of the window and when you hover, it disappears? | 22:03 |
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