| brousch | wow, crazy stuff http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news/local/tornado-destroys-homes-in-dexter-michigan-other-areas-hit-by-severe-weather-20120315-DK | 00:04 |
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| jrwren | brousch: it was very close | 00:17 |
| jrwren | snap-l: the N = None; del N # confused me coming from a java/.net background | 00:18 |
| jrwren | i just wait for patent expiration... just a few more years for the mp3 patents. | 00:18 |
| brousch | i'm sure they will be extended like copyrights | 00:19 |
| jrwren | no | 00:28 |
| jrwren | patents don't have that history. | 00:28 |
| jrwren | i had a celebration when teh RSA patent expired. | 00:28 |
| jcastro | JAY WREN | 00:33 |
| jcastro | hi | 00:33 |
| jrwren | hi jcastro | 00:48 |
| jrwren | how are you? | 00:48 |
| jrwren | i miss you, when are you moving back to MI? | 00:48 |
| jrwren | hey, #ubuntu-us-mi am I the only one who doesn't care at all about ubuntu achievements? | 00:48 |
| greg-g | shhhhh! | 00:58 |
| jcastro | jrwren, I'm visiting on memorial day | 00:59 |
| jrwren | YAY! | 01:02 |
| snap-l | jrwren: I think achievements are pretty stupid | 01:43 |
| snap-l | which is why I'm not on 4square | 01:43 |
| snap-l | but, I acknowledge that some people need that pavlovian dog acknowledgement in order to excel | 01:44 |
| snap-l | and yes, I'm happy that Patents expire, unlike copyrights which retire like Bret Farve or Ozzy Osbourne. | 01:46 |
| snap-l | Frankly, I don't mind initial publish date + X years (where X < 50) | 01:47 |
| snap-l | with additional (c) extension for 10 years if you publish a new edition of the work | 01:48 |
| snap-l | at least it would keep the things that still have legs (like the Beatles and Steam Boat Willie) going, and give added incentive to keep shit in print | 01:48 |
| jrwren | where X < 7 | 01:48 |
| jrwren | fuk beatles and steam boat willy, they should be public | 01:49 |
| snap-l | and let things that may not have monetary value go PD gracefully. | 01:49 |
| jrwren | its not about monetary value, its about freedom | 01:49 |
| snap-l | jrwren: I know | 01:50 |
| jrwren | or rather, the problem is that it IS about monetary value instead of freedom | 01:50 |
| snap-l | which is why I get extremely irritated when the Edgar Rice Burroughs estate starts sabre-ratling whenever someone publishes something against John Carter of Mars | 01:50 |
| snap-l | It's PD. Get over it. | 01:50 |
| snap-l | or the Howard estate re: Conan | 01:51 |
| rick_h | snap-l: no calling 6am | 02:47 |
| rick_h | going to be a rough night of transition me thinks | 02:48 |
| rick_h | woot, new keyboard...let the awkward adjustment phase begin | 02:53 |
| rick_h | morning | 11:06 |
| rick_h | ugh | 11:06 |
| mydogsnameisrudy | rick_h: wrong side of the bed , go back to bed and getup on the other side | 11:08 |
| snap-l | rick_h: Good morning | 11:16 |
| snap-l | and good morning, everyone else. | 11:16 |
| rick_h | man, it's going to be a long day | 12:25 |
| snap-l | rick_h: I can imagine | 12:25 |
| brousch | rick_h: you back in the M I? | 12:29 |
| rick_h | yep | 12:29 |
| rick_h | got in last night so starting to catch u\ | 12:29 |
| rick_h | losing three hours coming back sucks | 12:29 |
| brousch | maybe 4 hours | 12:32 |
| brousch | do they do daylight savings in CA? | 12:32 |
| snap-l | Only AZ and Hawaii neglect to celebrate DST | 12:32 |
| brousch | some parts of IN | 12:35 |
| brousch | they go county-by-county there | 12:35 |
| snap-l | It's all restupid | 12:35 |
| rick_h | brousch: yea, lost my hour there as well | 12:36 |
| brousch | hey apple-lovers http://aroberge.blogspot.com/2012/03/python-for-ios-first-look.html | 12:37 |
| rick_h | I've seen enough apple to last me a while | 12:38 |
| rick_h | forgive my typing as I get keyboard adjusted | 12:38 |
| snap-l | rick_h: but for $3 you can play with a limited Python on an iOS device? | 12:39 |
| snap-l | isn't that worth it for you? :) | 12:39 |
| brousch | well it's better than having no python ;) | 12:39 |
| snap-l | Tendulkar reaches cricket milestone | 12:42 |
| snap-l | Indian cricketer Sachin Tendulkar becomes first man to score 100 international centuries. | 12:42 |
| snap-l | I will never, ever understand Cricket. | 12:42 |
| brousch | hm, time to dive into throwing exceptions. i don't know if i've ever done that before | 12:50 |
| rick_h | from python? | 12:50 |
| brousch | yeah | 12:50 |
| rick_h | raise Exception('message') | 12:50 |
| snap-l | ^^ | 12:50 |
| rick_h | or subclass Exception | 12:50 |
| brousch | shouldn't there be a different exception for different errors? | 12:50 |
| rick_h | or the another Exception like ValueError, etc | 12:50 |
| rick_h | right, so you can create subclasses to throw for the 'type' of error | 12:51 |
| brousch | ok | 12:51 |
| rick_h | with a message specific to the exception | 12:51 |
| brousch | last time i did this was in java | 12:51 |
| brousch | i am kind of excited because i think if i change this program to use exceptions i can also make it testable | 12:52 |
| rick_h | yay! | 12:52 |
| brousch | or more easily testable | 12:52 |
| brousch | right now it prints errors and exits, but those should really be logs and exceptions | 12:53 |
| rick_h | right | 12:54 |
| brousch | so i've got that going and read python on android. fun days ahead | 12:55 |
| brousch | s/read/real/ | 12:55 |
| rick_h | wheeeee | 12:56 |
| rick_h | python to rule them all | 12:56 |
| brousch | you're not all pyed out yet? | 12:56 |
| rick_h | no, I'm invigorated to start a python group out here | 12:57 |
| rick_h | I need to find some place to host meetings | 12:57 |
| snap-l | ho boy. | 13:02 |
| brousch | snap-l's house! | 13:03 |
| rick_h | my goal is to get a PSF sponsored sprint before the year is out | 13:06 |
| brousch | bookie sprint? | 13:11 |
| rick_h | no, needs to be more base python. Thinking a sprint to practice porting some lib to py3 | 13:11 |
| rick_h | maybe something bookie uses :) | 13:11 |
| brousch | that would be cool | 13:12 |
| jrwren | brousch: IN no longer goes county by county. the state as a whole joined EST/EDT like the rest of us, a few yrs ago. | 13:45 |
| jrwren | oh shit... i'm wrong on that. | 13:47 |
| jrwren | my family in IN lied to me! | 13:47 |
| jrwren | ah, 2006, entire state began observing DST | 13:47 |
| jrwren | but zone is still county by county. | 13:47 |
| jrwren | *sigh* | 13:47 |
| brousch | heh | 13:48 |
| greg-g | give me more movies like: Independence Day, Transformers, Battleship | 15:08 |
| greg-g | ie: aliens coming to destroy humans but thank the effing lord we spend more money on the US Military than we should because it actually came in use for once | 15:09 |
| rick_h | oh interesting | 15:09 |
| greg-g | :) | 15:13 |
| rick_h | I'm coming up empty, but I'm not good at these kinds of problems | 15:14 |
| greg-g | yeah, me neither :) | 15:15 |
| greg-g | I just saw the trailer for Battleship and... wow | 15:16 |
| rick_h | heh, haven't seen it yet | 15:16 |
| rick_h | brousch: opencv love http://pyvideo.org/video/674/militarizing-your-backyard-with-python-computer | 17:18 |
| brousch | ahahah | 17:21 |
| brousch | i will set it up to squirt those damn kids on my lawn | 17:21 |
| brousch | make george wear a red hat so he is exempt | 17:21 |
| snap-l | greg-g: Alien military movies? | 17:24 |
| snap-l | What about Starship Troopers? | 17:24 |
| snap-l | (note: have not seen Starship Troopers) | 17:24 |
| snap-l | MOst of the recent alien movies have been more of the "our military is useless against these things" | 17:27 |
| brousch | the only good thing in starship troopers is denise richards | 17:27 |
| snap-l | greg-g: Work in a Mars Attacks reference. :) | 17:29 |
| snap-l | Fuck, they're planning a Cloverfield 2 and District 10 | 17:31 |
| rick_h | I actually liked district 9 | 17:31 |
| rick_h | and yea, it was setup for a follow up | 17:31 |
| snap-l | I want to seeit but haven't convinced JoDee | 17:31 |
| rick_h | cloverfield I can do without | 17:31 |
| snap-l | rick_h: Seriously? Hmm. | 17:32 |
| snap-l | Thought once the hook was known it didn't need a follow-up | 17:32 |
| rick_h | snap-l: yea, it's very different. I went and saw it by myself | 17:32 |
| snap-l | Like Blair Witch Project. | 17:33 |
| snap-l | Should never have been given a sequel. Ever. | 17:33 |
| rick_h | I never saw that, but that seemed stupid. This was done kind of cool like discovery channel like | 17:33 |
| snap-l | rick_h: Didn't see the first one, but seriously, it's like a haunted house | 17:34 |
| rick_h | yea, not interested | 17:34 |
| snap-l | once you know the hook of the haunted house, it's not scary anymore. | 17:34 |
| snap-l | really wish Hollywood would leave well enough alone. | 17:35 |
| rick_h | hah, this squirrel cannon is arduino powered | 17:35 |
| snap-l | LIke Tron Legacy | 17:35 |
| rick_h | I got the soundtrack out of it, so happy me | 17:35 |
| snap-l | Yeah, the soundtrack was the best part. | 17:36 |
| brousch | i must be the only person who doesn't care for it | 17:37 |
| rick_h | the tron soundtrack?! | 17:37 |
| brousch | yeah | 17:37 |
| snap-l | WHich I was surprised since Wendy Carlos' Tron Soundtrack is one of my favorites. | 17:37 |
| brousch | boring and kind of annoying | 17:37 |
| snap-l | brousch: What's your general feeling on electronic music? | 17:37 |
| brousch | i like some of it | 17:38 |
| snap-l | Also, the CD sounds a LOT better than the MP3s | 17:38 |
| brousch | it looks i kept 2 tracks in my playlist: adiago for tron and end of line | 17:39 |
| rick_h | soundtracks are meant to be listened to in whole | 17:39 |
| * rick_h has a ton of those in his queue...best coding music | 17:39 | |
| snap-l | brousch: Yeah, I initially thought it was pretty boring as well | 17:40 |
| brousch | i did listen to it in whole, and picked out those 2 as not annoying :P | 17:40 |
| snap-l | but near the end is when it won me over. | 17:40 |
| rick_h | ugh, brousch is broken. Send him in for repair | 17:40 |
| snap-l | Meh, different strokes. | 17:40 |
| brousch | Tools still sucks | 17:40 |
| rick_h | Tool! | 17:40 |
| rick_h | *sigh* /me thinks he's hopelessly broken | 17:41 |
| snap-l | brousch: Redeem yourself: http://magnatune.com/artists/albums/saros-labyrinth/ | 17:41 |
| brousch | if i remember right, the tron soundtrack had too much high pitch sound for me | 17:42 |
| snap-l | Are you referring to Daft Punk's, or Wendy Carlos' soundtrack? | 17:43 |
| brousch | daft punk | 17:43 |
| rick_h | yea, we're talking tron 2 right? | 17:43 |
| snap-l | I didn't get high pitched at all | 17:43 |
| brousch | i don't think i've heard the tron 1 | 17:43 |
| rick_h | yea, I mean I'd not classify it as high pitched | 17:44 |
| snap-l | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzRWXn5KNFI | 17:44 |
| brousch | i may be remembering wrong | 17:45 |
| brousch | maybe it was just boring | 17:46 |
| snap-l | Yeah, which makes it pretty good background music. | 17:47 |
| snap-l | ;) | 17:47 |
| rick_h | that, star trek, and inception are my big rotation these days | 17:47 |
| snap-l | That Saros album is pretty awesome, IMHO | 17:47 |
| snap-l | If anyone wants a copy, LMK | 17:48 |
| rick_h | http://blog.mitechie.com/2012/03/16/pycon-2012-what-a-ride/ pycon retro | 20:31 |
| snap-l | "Last year I hardly new anyone." <- knew. :) | 20:33 |
| snap-l | rick_h: ^^ | 20:33 |
| rick_h | bah | 20:33 |
| rick_h | ty much | 20:34 |
| snap-l | np | 20:39 |
| rick_h | and bookie stuff http://blog.mitechie.com/2012/03/16/bookie-pycon-2012-sprint-report/ | 21:03 |
| rick_h | oops, guess that should be in #bookie | 21:03 |
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