[01:42] <goddard> anyone using terminator?
[02:22] <goddard> Everyone should read this http://news.cnet.com/8301-31001_3-57397452-261/riaa-chief-isps-to-start-policing-copyright-by-july-12/
[02:23] <goddard> I thought phone tapping required a warrent.  So internet tapping requires nothing.
[02:24] <goddard> I don't pirate anything, but this still seems wrong.
[02:28] <cy1> goddard: Gosh I think you might be onto something there.
[02:30] <goddard> it was pretty apparent people didn't want the internet messed with yet some how the white house just doesn't care
[02:31] <cy1> It's almost as if we aren't members of a democratic government anymore.
[02:36] <goddard> democracy i think not my friend
[02:37] <goddard> if that was the case I could actually vote on things not just people that lie to me
[02:39] <cy1> You can still put the mark on the paper, and the paper in the box. That's a democracy, right?
[02:39] <cy1> The box has "democracy" written on it you see.
[02:40] <cy1> Pay no attention to the millions of people forcibly kept ignorant who also get to put their papers in the box. Your vote still counts, honest.
[02:41] <cy1> It's not like advertising actually works or anything. People vote for what is good for them, not in a gigantic frothing mass for whoever has the shiniest tie.
[02:42] <goddard> haha in Ancient Greece where Democracy was invented they voted on things not people
[02:42] <cy1> If advertising worked, people would spend a lot of effort on it, but since they don't clearly we have nothing to fear.
[02:42] <goddard> well they voted on people to :D
[02:43] <goddard> think they even voted on killing people... haha
[02:44] <goddard> thats not so good
[02:45] <goddard> man oh man
[02:45] <goddard> and that is why people think RMS is crazy
[02:45] <cy1> Oh, and if you get a paper receipt, you can be sure your vote wasn't rigged
[02:46] <cy1> because clearly there have been so many times when people were allowed to recount their votes by the receipts they had.
[02:47] <cy1> What was printed on that paper is totally your vote, and nothing secretly being changed electronically, after printing it out.
[02:51] <goddard> http://questioncopyright.org/
[02:54] <cy1> "The ISPs are essentially forcing fans to hide their love of their favorite artists." <3
[02:54] <cy1> The song I'm playing right now is STATEMENT REDACTED DUE TO A CLAIM FROM VIACOM INC
[02:55] <goddard> haha
[02:55] <goddard> exactly
[02:56] <goddard> i guess they have never heard of encryption
[03:01] <cy1> Encryption is a way of hiding my love of my favorite artists. :/
[03:03] <cy1> I like to think it can hide other things though, which will remove the power of those who do harm.
[14:33] <bkerensa> wendar: congrats
[16:25] <wendar> bkerensa: thanks :)
[18:57] <goddard> does anyone else have problems following these instructions? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Laptop/Procedures
[18:57] <goddard> I can't ever update my profile.
[18:57] <goddard> its asking for some api key
[20:29] <bkerensa> goddard: You can go to http://laptop.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/profile and set a custom API key I believe
[20:31] <bkerensa> I think also they may have recently launched a newer UI
[20:40] <goddard> i hope so because this one is confusing
[20:40] <goddard> yeah i went to that page but where do i get the key for that page?
[20:42] <bkerensa> hi nathwill
[20:42] <bkerensa> :D
[20:43] <bkerensa> goddard: You would need to set a custom key
[20:44] <bkerensa> goddard: Someone in #ubuntu-testing might be able to help better since I am not familiar with the UI
[20:53] <nathwill> hi bkerensa
[20:54] <bkerensa> nathwill: https://code.launchpad.net/~bkerensa/charms/oneiric/subway/trunk
[20:54] <bkerensa> fun toy
[20:54] <nathwill> looking
[21:03] <nathwill> how the hell you make the checkmark character?
[21:03] <nathwill> ^bkerenbsa
[21:03] <nathwill> *bkerensa
[21:03] <bkerensa> nathwill: uhh
[21:04] <bkerensa> nathwill:  like this √ √ √
[21:04] <bkerensa> :D
[21:04] <nathwill> lol
[21:04] <bkerensa> you just √
[21:04] <bkerensa> :)
[21:04] <bkerensa> nathwill: I went to some ASCII site and grabbed it
[21:04] <bkerensa> I dislike juju
[21:05] <nathwill> hrm
[21:05] <nathwill> yeah, i got that feeling when i reviewed them before global jam
[21:05] <bkerensa> when the Canonical Community Specialist for Cloud cannot tell me how to properly deploy a charm that says a lot :P
[21:05] <bkerensa> I'm going to have to go get me some hummus soon :D
[21:06] <bkerensa> nathwill: good thing you skipped that party... the music was horribly loud and got a epic migraine
[21:07] <nathwill> that's too bad
[21:07] <bkerensa> but alas I was able to speak with Dreamhost VP of Marketing, VP of Partnerships and a Co-founder... Ubuntu Oregon is golden for sponsorship into the future
[21:10] <bkerensa> and some FreeGeek folk were there which was cool
[21:27] <nathwill> fantastic
[21:27] <nathwill> well at least you re-upped consciousness about us
[21:27] <nathwill> so that they remember what's up, and later no-one's like "what's this account doing here? blam!"
[21:40] <bkerensa> nathwill: :P you do a lot of "what's this account doing here blamming"
[21:40] <bkerensa> :D
[21:45] <nathwill> i do indeed
[21:46] <nathwill> it adds to my running tally of "what i saved" vs. "what you payed me"
[21:46] <nathwill> annual reviews are coming up after all.
[22:04] <cy1> Aw, I found a bug in Linux :(
[22:04] <cy1> well, libc more likely
[22:05] <cy1> There's openat, statat, symlinkat, fstatat, mkfifoat, but no execveat :(
[22:06] <cy1> I can still go /proc/self/fd/<num>/<name> for the equivalent, but talk about a hack!
[22:08] <nathwill> bkerensa, i might have to make a stab at creating a charm though, just for saying i did.
[22:09] <bkerensa> nathwill: with a yahoo product ofc
[22:09] <nathwill> totally
[22:09] <nathwill> bundle up ycombinator
[22:09] <nathwill> lol
[22:09] <bkerensa> ;p
[22:09] <nathwill> er
[22:10] <nathwill> yuicompressor is what i actually was referring to
[22:10] <nathwill> ycombinator i don't believe is a yahoo product, though the people involved are closely associated