[05:38] <magespawn> morning all
[05:41] <nuvolari> mornings magespawn 
[05:46] <magespawn> how is this Friday so far?
[07:26] <Kilos> hi magespawn and other lurkers
[07:27] <Kilos> not a good day for motorbike riders in pta
[07:28] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[07:28]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[07:28] <Kilos> hi superfly 
[07:30] <superfly> hi Kilos
[07:30] <superfly> -_- ADSL down at work again
[07:30] <Kilos> eish thats telkom hey
[07:32] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[07:32] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[07:32] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[07:40] <inetpro> good mornings
[07:40] <Kilos> hi inetpro 
[07:40] <Kilos> you wet?
[07:41] <inetpro> Kilos: heh, in this weather I rather get to work and back on two wheels 
[07:42] <Kilos> as long as you got good rain gear its not too bad
[07:42] <inetpro> you can double the time in your car in this weather
[07:43] <Kilos> in any weather actually
[07:43] <Kilos> bikes have major advantages
[07:44] <inetpro> Kilos: no, it's extra bad in a car in rainy weather
[07:45] <Kilos> just go careful. peeps in cars drive as if it was dry
[07:45] <inetpro> true
[07:45] <inetpro> but they don't have a lot of room to manouver 
[07:45] <Kilos> oh ya
[07:46] <inetpro> so in some ways it's less risky
[07:46] <inetpro> the bigger risk is the wet road surface
[07:46] <Kilos> youre right
[07:46] <magespawn> howdy kilos inetpro
[07:47] <inetpro> hello magespawn
[07:47] <superfly> ohi inetpro, magespawn, morgs
[07:47] <inetpro> eh superfly
[07:47] <Kilos> hi morgs 
[07:48] <morgs> hi superfly, Kilos, inetpro, *
[07:48] <magespawn> hey morgs superfly
[07:48] <inetpro> superfly: hmm... you chased him away
[07:49] <morgs> hi magespawn 
[07:49] <superfly> inetpro: I did nothing of the sort, it must have been Kilos :-P
[07:49] <Kilos> lol
[07:49] <Kilos> no man he means *
[07:49] <Kilos> he didnt answer
[07:50] <Kilos> im innocent
[07:53] <Kilos> hi Tonberry have you moved your beer meet yet
[10:48] <Kilos> inetpro, just be carefull at robots and dips for oil on the road hey?
[10:49] <inetpro> Kilos: heh
[10:53] <magespawn> bit of a break in the conversattio
[10:53] <magespawn> conversation
[10:54] <Kilos> yo magespawn 
[10:54] <Kilos> ya i was offline
[10:55] <magespawn> hi Kilos
[10:55] <magespawn> noticed that.
[10:56] <Kilos> playing on small drive. if i install xubuntu can i install gdi after?
[10:56] <Kilos> gnome
[10:56] <magespawn> should be able to how small?
[10:56] <Kilos> 6g
[10:57] <Kilos> i am scared to change anything on my working maverick
[10:57] <magespawn> not sure if it will keep the changes or if it is only for the session
[10:57] <magespawn> did run a friends laptop from a flash drive for over a year
[10:58] <Kilos> wow. using the flash as a livecd kinda thing or an actual installation on the flash
[11:04] <magespawn> cannot remember the details I think an install on the flash because the live cd version does not save things like emails or documents if I am remembering correctly
[11:04] <Kilos> ah
[11:04] <magespawn> got to go to parents day at the school see y'all later.
[11:05] <Kilos> go safe
[11:46] <Squirm> good afternoon
[12:12] <Kilos> inetpro, has kubuntu got a synaptic package manager?
[12:13] <Kilos> ians struggling
[12:15] <Kilos> what is Kpackagekit
[12:16] <Kilos> update manager or synaptic
[12:16] <magespawn> back
[12:16] <Kilos> hi back
[12:16] <magespawn> I use that to update the one kubuntu machine I have
[12:17] <Kilos> i am looking for the mark all updates and fix broken that gnomes synaptic has
[12:18] <magespawn> have not used it that much hold on
[12:18] <magespawn> going there now
[12:18] <Kilos> ty 
[12:21] <superfly> Kilos: kpackagekit in older kubuntus
[12:21] <superfly> and qapt/muon in newer kubunts
[12:21] <superfly> *kubuntus
[12:21] <superfly> I just use aptitude
[12:22] <Kilos> he is using natty superfly 
[12:23] <magespawn> aptitude from the command line superfly ?
[12:23] <Kilos> yip aptitude rocks
[12:23] <Kilos> but he had his update tool running while out and it hung halfway
[12:25] <superfly> magespawn: yu[
[12:25] <superfly> *yup
[12:25] <magespawn> xkill?
[12:27] <Kilos> i made him reboot
[12:27] <Kilos> so hard to try help when you dont know the OS
[12:28] <inetpro> Kilos: Ctrl+Esc will bring up System Activity akin to the Microsoft Windows' Task Manager
[12:28] <magespawn> yes
[12:28] <inetpro> It shows a list of currently running processes, along with their CPU usage, Memory usage, and various other pieces of information. 
[12:29] <Kilos> ty inetpro 
[12:29] <inetpro> obviously you can do all that on the cli as well
[12:29] <inetpro> htop
[12:31] <Kilos> using win7 and all the hand palm fingerprint readers has made his kop plat
[12:40] <magespawn> htop looks useful
[12:53] <Kilos> he has a win7 and kubuntu installed and win has crashed bad so i am trying to get him to use boot-repair from his pc and the work drive as second drive and hopefully boot-repair will fix it
[12:53] <Kilos> win likes messing up the mbr methinks
[12:56] <magespawn> grip or lilo can handle both but the windows one can't
[12:56] <magespawn> grub
[12:56] <Kilos> yeah thats why its called winsucks
[12:57] <Kilos> boot-repair normally fixes everything
[12:57] <Kilos> good tool to have
[12:58] <magespawn> yes has helped me
[12:58] <Kilos> Maaz, google boot-repair for ubuntu
[12:58] <Maaz> Kilos: "Boot-Repair - Community Ubuntu Documentation" https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair :: "RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Community Ubuntu ..." https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows :: "RecoveryMode - Ubuntu Wiki" https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode :: "Boot-Repair - Simple tool to repair frequent boot problems | Ubuntu ..." http://www.ubuntugeek.com/boot-repair-simple-tool-to-repai
[13:00] <Kilos> i had lotsa boot probs till i cleared my cpu cache of all winsucks stuff and no more since
[15:21] <Kilos> yay boot-repair fixed ians work drive
[15:21] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn 
[15:21] <nlsthzn> Greetings uncle Kilos 
[15:30] <tumbleweed> superfly: this might be another reasonable approach to spam http://drupal.org/project/hashcash
[15:30] <tumbleweed> (and has the advantage of not needing a remote server)
[17:09] <dLimit> Hi Kilos 
[17:33] <Kilos> hi dLimit  howzit
[17:33] <nuvolari> o/
[17:33] <nuvolari> hi oom Kilos :>
[17:33] <Kilos> lo nuvolari 
[17:33] <nuvolari> hoe gaan it met oom?
[17:33] <nuvolari> *dit
[17:33] <dLimit> Not bad thanks
[17:33] <dLimit> hi nuvolari 
[17:33] <Kilos> goed dankie en self 
[17:33] <nuvolari> yo yo dLimit!
[17:33] <nuvolari> kan nie kla nie dankie
[17:34] <nuvolari> my kop voel bietjie muf vandag
[17:34] <nuvolari> moet nuwe frameworks en spcifications aanleer :-/
[17:36] <Kilos> eish
[17:37] <nuvolari> nie eers met ys nie oom Kilos!
[17:37] <nuvolari> sommer net kookwater in 'n mens se keelgat af 
[17:37] <nuvolari> Maar môre gaan 'n mens maar weer aan
[17:37] <Kilos> ai
[17:38] <Kilos> jy maak my dors
[17:38] <nuvolari> lol
[17:38] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee oh
[17:38] <Maaz> Kilos: Huh?
[17:38] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[17:38]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[17:38] <nuvolari> Maaz: coffee please
[17:38] <Maaz> nuvolari: Yessir
[17:38] <nuvolari> thanks
[17:41] <Kilos> im using xubuntu at the moment. not updated but pidgin and xchat are preinstalled
[17:42] <Kilos> hi jpm
=== jpm is now known as Kerbero[home]
[17:42] <Kerbero[home]> daarsyh
[17:42] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos and nuvolari!
[17:42] <Kilos> lol
[17:42] <Kerbero[home]> dis beter
[17:42] <Kerbero[home]> hi kilos
[17:42] <Kilos> jaan pierre malherbe
[17:42] <nuvolari> thanks Maaz! :D
[17:42] <Kerbero[home]> lol
[17:42] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[17:42] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[17:42] <Kerbero[home]> naby, maar baie ver
[17:43] <Kilos> jan piet mare
[17:45] <Kilos> crazy with workspace selection at the top
[18:03] <zeref> hurrrrrrrrrrrmmmmmmmmmm
[18:09] <Kilos> hi zeref 
[18:09] <Kilos> hi psydroid 
[18:10] <psydroid> hi Kilos
[18:14] <zeref> hi Kilos 
[18:36] <psydroid> hi zeref
[19:16] <inetpro> hmm...
[19:16] <inetpro> something telling me we have a problem
[19:16] <inetpro> Maaz: za.archive.ubuntu.com down?
[19:16] <Maaz> inetpro: *blink*
[19:17] <dLimit> I think it,s down inetpro 
[19:17] <inetpro> Maaz: is za.archive.ubuntu.com down?
[19:18] <Maaz> inetpro: Yes, http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ is down (Server is not responding)
[19:19] <dLimit> Somebody's going to have a tough night?
[19:19] <inetpro> Maaz: tenet
[19:19] <Maaz> The Tertiary Education and Research Network (TENET) hosts amongst others the country mirror of the ubuntu archives. The network operations center (NOC) can be reached via email at noc@tenet.ac.za. Website: http://www.tenet.ac.za/
[19:19] <inetpro> dLimit: why?
[19:19] <Kilos> try that ftp sun one it hardly ever goes down
[19:20] <dLimit> inetpro: I don't know many people that like fixing thing on way to midnight on a friday
[19:21] <inetpro> dLimit: true
[19:24] <inetpro> Kilos: the sun site is not listed as an official mirror
[19:24] <Tonberry> huh
[19:24] <inetpro> only telkom SAIX and Tenet,  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors
[19:24] <Tonberry> its in the ubuntu mirror selection menu tho
[19:24] <inetpro> or am I looking at the wrong list?
[19:25] <Tonberry> not an official cd mirror tho
[19:25] <Tonberry> in software sources you can pick ftp.sun.ac.za
[19:25] <inetpro> Tonberry: thanks
[19:27] <Kilos> thats the one Tonberry 
[19:28] <Kilos> never goes down
[19:28] <Tonberry> yes
[19:28] <Tonberry> very strange
[19:28] <Tonberry> considering how the rest of the network is doing
[19:28] <Kilos> inetpro, in synaptic when you look by the sa repos it is there
[19:30] <Kilos> in software centre too
[19:34] <inetpro> Kilos: perl -p -i.bak -e "s#za.archive.ubuntu.com#ftp.sun.ac.za#" sources.list is quicker
[19:35] <Kilos> is that a command inetpro for cli?
[19:36] <inetpro> Kilos: yep that is a search and replace perl oneliner
[19:36] <Kilos> wow ty sir
[19:37] <inetpro> Kilos: it will search through each line for za.archive.ubuntu.com and replace it with ftp.sun.ac.za 
[19:38] <inetpro> it will edit the file inline while it will also make a backup with .bak
[19:38] <Kilos> thats cool ty
[19:38] <Kilos> i always have to wait for synaptic or software centre to do it
[19:39] <inetpro> well, I guess it's easy enough
[19:40] <inetpro> easy to make mistakes in the cli
[19:41] <dLimit> Mistakes only happen when you are root...
[23:50] <apie> sup crunchiez