[03:41] <MrBusiness> I would like to convert a Ubuntu desktop machine into a server that does not boot into X, but with upstart it appears that this is not something I could accomplish by booting into a lower runlevel, since a standard upstart system seems to have fewer overall runlevels than many other Linuxes. Am I misunderstanding the matter, or is there another way I could go about converting my machine to avoid booting into X by default?
[11:16] <onikk> hi, I'm trying to get a small C program to run via upstart, but it starts only once and after that start and stop hang or show start/killed or stop/killed... how to debug/proceed? 
[15:21] <glenn___> hello
[15:21] <glenn___> anyone here ? :)
[15:21] <glenn___> i have a question regarding the upstart script for puppetmaster 
[15:22] <glenn___> the sysv style script uses a while loop in the init script to start several puppetmasters, and until now i cant get this to work with upstart. 
[15:22] <glenn___> is this even possible?
[15:56] <glenn___> i dont think this is possible
[15:57] <glenn___> anybody experience with this? starting multiple daemons with 1 upstart script?
[16:04] <glenn___> guys ?
[16:09] <glenn___> i think i should use instance
[17:01] <SpamapS> glenn___: several puppetmasters ?!
[17:01] <SpamapS> glenn___: you may want to use two upstart jobs and the 'instance' keyword
[17:02] <SpamapS> glenn___: or its possible you could make a master/slave single recursive upstart job w/ instance. :)
[17:05] <glenn___> spamaps: well, its the mongrel type of puppetmaster, and it just start multiple master based on masterport
[17:05] <glenn___> personally i dont use any standalone puppetmaster, im using passenger
[17:06] <SpamapS> glenn___: shouldn't you be using passenger?
[17:06] <SpamapS> glenn___: mongrel is basically abandonware at this point isn't it?
[17:06] <glenn___> spamaps: yes, but that is puppetmaster-passenger... right now im talking about puppetmaster
[17:06] <glenn___> spamaps: yes, but jamespage asked me to create init script for all the daemons from the puppet package instead of just the agent
[17:07] <glenn___> spamaps: noone wants to use puppetmaster with mongrel i guess
[17:10] <SpamapS> glenn___: its being dropped from debian
[17:17] <glenn___> spamaps: in what ubuntu version would mongrel be gone?
[17:22] <SpamapS> glenn___: 12.10 probably
[17:22] <SpamapS> glenn___: its still in 12.04 .. but the debian ruby team is already prepping to drop it from "wheezy"
[22:57] <jefimenko> hi
[22:57] <jefimenko> how do i read from /dev/console?
[22:57] <jefimenko> i'm trying to see the errors a daemon throws during startup by adding the "console output" stanza
[22:57] <jefimenko> which sounds like it would be great if only i knew how to read from /dev/console