[03:41] I would like to convert a Ubuntu desktop machine into a server that does not boot into X, but with upstart it appears that this is not something I could accomplish by booting into a lower runlevel, since a standard upstart system seems to have fewer overall runlevels than many other Linuxes. Am I misunderstanding the matter, or is there another way I could go about converting my machine to avoid booting into X by default? [11:16] hi, I'm trying to get a small C program to run via upstart, but it starts only once and after that start and stop hang or show start/killed or stop/killed... how to debug/proceed? [15:21] hello [15:21] anyone here ? :) [15:21] i have a question regarding the upstart script for puppetmaster [15:22] the sysv style script uses a while loop in the init script to start several puppetmasters, and until now i cant get this to work with upstart. [15:22] is this even possible? [15:56] i dont think this is possible [15:57] anybody experience with this? starting multiple daemons with 1 upstart script? [16:04] guys ? [16:09] i think i should use instance [17:01] glenn___: several puppetmasters ?! [17:01] glenn___: you may want to use two upstart jobs and the 'instance' keyword [17:02] glenn___: or its possible you could make a master/slave single recursive upstart job w/ instance. :) [17:05] spamaps: well, its the mongrel type of puppetmaster, and it just start multiple master based on masterport [17:05] personally i dont use any standalone puppetmaster, im using passenger [17:06] glenn___: shouldn't you be using passenger? [17:06] glenn___: mongrel is basically abandonware at this point isn't it? [17:06] spamaps: yes, but that is puppetmaster-passenger... right now im talking about puppetmaster [17:06] spamaps: yes, but jamespage asked me to create init script for all the daemons from the puppet package instead of just the agent [17:07] spamaps: noone wants to use puppetmaster with mongrel i guess [17:10] glenn___: its being dropped from debian [17:17] spamaps: in what ubuntu version would mongrel be gone? [17:22] glenn___: 12.10 probably [17:22] glenn___: its still in 12.04 .. but the debian ruby team is already prepping to drop it from "wheezy" [22:57] hi [22:57] how do i read from /dev/console? [22:57] i'm trying to see the errors a daemon throws during startup by adding the "console output" stanza [22:57] which sounds like it would be great if only i knew how to read from /dev/console