[00:09] <ochosi> leo-unglaub: so is it really just re-ordering stuff in glade or is it more complicated?
[00:09] <leo-unglaub> 90 % re-ordering
[00:09] <leo-unglaub> why?
[00:10] <ochosi> just curious
[00:10] <leo-unglaub> do you know glade?
[00:10] <ochosi> no
[00:10] <leo-unglaub> glade himself is simple
[00:10] <ochosi> i mean it's xml or something alike, so it's rather readable
[00:10] <leo-unglaub> drag and drop the elements you need into it
[00:10] <ochosi> i've only worked with gtk in perl
[00:11] <ochosi> right, so there's an editor for that?
[00:11] <leo-unglaub> yes
[00:11] <leo-unglaub> called glade
[00:11] <ochosi> i see
[00:11] <ochosi> i'll quickly install it to see what it's about
[00:12] <leo-unglaub> yes, simply install glade and glade-xfce for some specials
[00:12] <leo-unglaub> and you need glade-gtk2 to, because the ui files are very old
[00:18] <ochosi> leo-unglaub: hmm, actually the d'n'd doesn't work very well
[00:19] <leo-unglaub> *g*
[00:19] <leo-unglaub> yes, thats glade 
[00:19] <ochosi> it looks ugly and it feels dirty to do an interface that way
[00:19] <ochosi> i think i'd rather write the xml by hand
[00:19] <leo-unglaub> every time i hear someone say: "doesn't work very well" i know you are talking about glade or javascript *g*
[00:20] <ochosi> hehe
[00:20] <leo-unglaub> believe me, in huge projects you start to love glade
[00:21] <leo-unglaub> in hannasql for example i have more thant 60 ui files
[00:21] <leo-unglaub> but they are not created with glade 
[00:21] <ochosi> yeah, but this is just a simple media player...
[00:22] <ochosi> i'm sure there are sensible applications for glade, i guess otherwise no-one would have gone through the trouble of writing an "interface to create interfaces"
[01:06] <ochosi> leo-unglaub: i think i'll slowly but surely hit the bed
[01:08] <knome> ochosi, don't hit hard or you'll hurt yourself
[01:08] <Unit193> What'd the bed do to you even?
[01:09]  * knome can only think of good things about ochosi's bed
[01:09] <knome> errrm ;)
[01:12] <ochosi> pff, that came out wrong (i hope)
[01:12] <ochosi> :)
[01:12] <knome> hehe, that came out wrong intentionally :P
[01:13] <ochosi> anyway, would be cool if you could quickly test the workaround in #3 of this bugreport: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xfce4-volumed/+bug/883485
[01:13] <ochosi> it's such an annoying bug that we should really get that fixed for precise
[01:13] <knome> me? well i'm going to bed soon too
[01:13] <ochosi> or at least worked around
[01:13] <ochosi> it's pretty simple, just execute a command in term and restart your session
[01:13] <ochosi> then try to mute/unmute
[01:13] <ochosi> (maybe reboot if session doesn't do it)
[01:13] <knome> i can't! i'm playing minesweeper!
[01:14] <ochosi> awwwh :)
[01:14] <knome> i can test it tomorrow
[01:14] <knome> just remind me
[01:16] <ochosi> hmm, ok :/
[01:16] <ochosi> i'm off now, see you!
[01:16] <knome> see ya!
[12:54] <astraljava> Just to annoy knome further, seems my target of infatuation is on her way to another victory again... *smirk*
[12:59] <astraljava> *gah* Spoke too soon. *sigh*
[14:51] <leo-unglaub> good morning
[14:55] <astraljava> o/
[15:10] <ochosi> hey leo-unglaub 
[15:11] <leo-unglaub> hi
[15:16] <leo-unglaub> ochosi: i failed last night
[15:16] <leo-unglaub> i was not able to finish the compiling
[15:16] <leo-unglaub> i have a dep problem
[15:16] <leo-unglaub> and no idea why
[15:17] <leo-unglaub> all needet packages are installed
[15:17] <leo-unglaub> but still broken
[15:17] <ochosi> hm, what does the compiler say?
[15:17] <leo-unglaub> missing the gstreamer packages
[15:17] <leo-unglaub> but they are isntalled
[15:18] <ochosi> the -dev packages as well?
[15:18] <leo-unglaub> ....
[15:18] <ochosi> huhu
[15:18] <leo-unglaub> yes
[15:18] <ochosi> oh
[15:18] <ochosi> ok :)
[15:18] <leo-unglaub> of course
[15:18] <ochosi> for a second i thought...
[15:18] <leo-unglaub> hehe
[15:19] <ochosi> so the gstreamer stuff isn't found?
[15:19] <leo-unglaub> i did an error like this once...but this is 6 years ago *g*
[15:19] <ochosi> maybe you need some parameters for configure?
[15:19] <leo-unglaub> it's installed in the default pathes, but i also tryed given the path 
[15:20] <ochosi> ok, i'll quickly try to compile from git
[15:21] <ochosi> autogen.sh finished without errors
[15:21] <mr_pouit> (or sudo apt-get install build-dep parole might help too)
[15:21] <ochosi> (and i don't have any gstreamer*-dev stuff installed)
[15:21] <ochosi> yup, good point
[15:22] <mr_pouit> apt-get build-dep parole, sorry
[15:22] <ochosi> leo-unglaub: if you send me your changes i can quickly compile them in :)
[15:23] <leo-unglaub> ...
[15:23] <leo-unglaub> are you in 12.04?
[15:23] <leo-unglaub> because i was
[15:23] <ochosi> nope, 11.10
[15:26] <leo-unglaub> hmm, maybe thatsw the reason
[15:26] <leo-unglaub> i can send you the changes when i come home
[15:26] <leo-unglaub> currently i am in the offic
[15:45] <ochosi> leo-unglaub: sure sure, anytime
[18:39] <Unit193> But ah well.
[18:47] <Unit193> No 32bit today, alright.
[19:19] <ochosi> leo-unglaub: still @office?
[19:19] <leo-unglaub> take a guess :)
[19:19] <ochosi> oh lord :)
[19:19] <leo-unglaub> you can come an visit if you want :)
[19:20] <ochosi> nah, i'm going to a party at a friends' house ;)
[19:20] <ochosi> s/house/flat
[19:20] <leo-unglaub> sounds boring
[19:20] <ochosi> :)
[20:16] <knome> party sounds boring but a visit to office not? huhuh
[20:16] <knome> well i must confess, i prefer offices too...
[20:23] <pleia2> me too
[20:23] <Unit193> If you define party.....
[21:38] <patrick_> the xfce user switcher apparantly isn't working on 12.04: The name org.gnome.DisplayManager was not provided by any .service files
[21:38] <patrick_> Had this something to do with the switch to LightDM or is it something else?