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littlegirlHey there, I'm proofreading the KDE docs for Precise Pangolin. I noticed that sometimes an apostrophe is ' and other times it's ' and I was wondering if they should all be one of those, and if so, which one. (:01:15
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littlegirlI rewrote that section so that it doesn't use an apostrophe at all, but in case anyone comes across this while I'm still logged in here, I did a recursive grep of all the documentation and see many examples of 01:29
littlegirl' being uses, but very few examples of ' being used, and it looks like ' gets used when the apostrophe is right next to some other markup (like an angled bracket or a semi-colon, for example).01:30
ScottKDarkwing: ^^^03:13
Darkwinglittlegirl: ping05:45
littlegirlDarkwing: Hey there. (:05:48
DarkwingYou were looking for me? I just popped in for a bit before bed.05:49
littlegirlYeah, I was wondering whether ' or ' should be used consistently. I notice there are more ' than ' and the ' seem to always be used near brackets or other markup. Is that the rule for those?05:51
DarkwingNo, not really05:51
littlegirlAlso, is there a set rule or viewpoint on when or whether to add a blank line between elements?05:52
littlegirlDo you prefer ' over ' or the other way around? I'd be happy to make the docs consistent one way or another. (:05:52
DarkwingI perfer '05:52
DarkwingI can read it better.05:52
Darkwingas for the lines... I do like neat code but it's close to impossable to train people to do that.05:53
littlegirlSame. Should I replace the ' ones with '? There aren't very many when I did a recursive grep. (:05:53
littlegirlDarkwing: I'd be happy to do it however you like it. If you'd like it all indented, I can go through all of them and indent them. Or if you'd like a blank line between every element or between specific elements, just let me know and I can rip through them all and do it. (:05:53
DarkwingI like the indents... However, it's not that important.05:53
DarkwingThanks littlegirl :)05:54
littlegirlMy delay today has been being accepted by Launchpad (that took a while) and realizing I had deleted my beta copy of Kubuntu. I just got done reinstalling it in VirtualBox and it's still updating. (:05:54
littlegirlDarkwing: Any time. Just let me know how you'd like them. (:05:54
Darkwing:D I'll be back tomorrow evening. Till then I'm finally getting some sleep... My kids seen to be over this little stomach bug so, I can finally sleep. :)05:55
RiddellDarkwing: will you look into https://code.launchpad.net/~littlergirl/kubuntu-docs/manage-software/+merge/98039 ?08:53
BluesKajHiyas all13:12
rbelemhi Riddell 13:56
rbelemRiddell, i will work now to close kubuntu-active bugs13:57
Peace-aloa14:38
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BluesKajhey Peace-14:47
Peace-BluesKaj: hi14:48
BluesKajErr http://ppa.launchpad.net precise/main amd64 Packages15:37
BluesKaj  404  Not Found15:37
shadeslayerwhut15:39
shadeslayerBluesKaj: what ppa is that?15:39
BluesKajhttp://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/source/Sources 15:40
shadeslayertxwikinger: bulldog98 thanks! :D15:40
shadeslayerwell15:41
shadeslayerBluesKaj: backports doesn't have precise pacakges yet15:41
shadeslayer:)15:41
shadeslayerhttp://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu/dists/15:41
shadeslayerI'm guessing you upgraded and re enabled that PPA right?15:42
BluesKajshadeslayer,  yes ,thanks I was trying to install a ppa that depends on the backports 15:43
shadeslayer:D15:43
BluesKajthis app , btw http://www.webupd8.org/2011/11/oxygen-appmenu-replace-menu-with.html ..it's meant for 11.10 , but i thought I could try anyway :)15:44
shadeslayer*click*15:44
shadeslayerBluesKaj: well, as a workaround you could download the oneiric packages and install using dpkg15:46
shadeslayerbut that's what it is, a workaround, best to contact upstream and ask him if he could package it for precise15:47
BluesKajshadeslayer, yeah , I considered that , but it's no biggie, I can wait 15:48
shadeslayer:)15:48
BluesKajfixed my esata to sata connection, the connector wasn't seated properly in the mobo sata connector , a small piece of plastic was still stuck in the connector , that had to be trimmed out.15:53
BluesKajnot very impressive "Quality Control" there15:54
Peace- wallpaper :D http://wstaw.org/m/2012/03/17/plasma-desktopqG5045.png16:25
Riddellrbelem: lovely16:32
shadeslayeryofel: ping17:25
shadeslayeryofel: need lplib halp17:36
tsimpsonlplib?17:38
tsimpsonis that launchpadlib?17:38
shadeslayeryes17:38
tsimpsonI have played with it, mostly the bug parts though (for ubottu)17:39
shadeslayerhmm, I need help with PPA stuff :)17:39
shadeslayerNeed a way to fetch the build logs ....17:40
shadeslayerbut I've never used the launchpadlib API, so I'm utterly lost17:40
tsimpsondo you have the API docs?17:41
tsimpsonhttps://launchpad.net/+apidoc/1.0.html17:41
shadeslayertsimpson: I'm looking at https://help.launchpad.net/API/launchpadlib17:41
shadeslayerok17:41
tsimpsonyou mostly just take off any _link or _collection_link and you have the Python binding17:42
tsimpsonand remember to name parameters when calling a method, that usually trips me up17:43
shadeslayerthere's a build_log_url .. but I'm not sure how to use it ...;17:43
tsimpsonit looks to be just a link, so just fetch it I guess17:44
shadeslayeruh, not what I meant, what I meant was, how do I construct the appropriate launchpad object in order to use build_log_url17:45
shadeslayerI'm lost at the very beginning, I can figure out the rest, just can't figure out how to get a list of launchpad objects that would represent each package in a PPA17:46
tsimpsonshadeslayer: looks like you call .getBuildRecords() on the PPA (archive)17:47
shadeslayerhmm17:48
tsimpsongetBuildRecords() returns a "list" of build objects, so one could: lp.people['tsimpson'].ppas[0].getBuildRecords()[0].build_log_url17:48
shadeslayerokay, thanks! I believe I've figured it now17:49
tsimpson:)17:49
DarkwingRiddell: Yes, planning on doing that today.17:50
shadeslayeruhh18:13
shadeslayertsimpson: how does one read a tempfile in python?18:13
shadeslayerhmm .. the only way I can think of is by sending the name of the file to open18:15
tsimpsonyeah, just open it manually18:16
shadeslayercool18:17
shadeslayergod damnit I keep putting ; after every line18:20
tsimpsonI do that too, but python doesn't really care about them anyway18:21
tsimpsonwell, most of the time18:21
jalcineshadeslayer: !!! 18:22
jalcinethat happens to me all the time!18:22
shadeslayerlike srsly18:22
shadeslayerwhat sane language does not have a ';' which indicates the end of a line18:22
shadeslayerhmm18:22
tsimpsonthe same language that uses white-space indentation for blocks18:23
shadeslayer:P18:23
jalcineIt's so dangerous at times..18:23
shadeslayernow to figure out how to read 3 lines in quick succession18:23
jalcine"Did I close that 'if' block?"18:24
BluesKajheh, google-earth is actually working on 12.04 .. google maps is practically the same now tho18:40
schnelle_JontheEchidna: hi jonathan. I am using latest muon 1.3.0 in oneiric and muon fails to install kernel image debs from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/. It installs header debs just fine but when I try to install image deb install button is grayed out 18:53
schnelle_http://www.dodaj.rs/f/3O/nR/YLguHJI/snapshot22.png18:53
schnelle_dpkg installs image deb without problems18:53
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rbelemi got a FTBFS on plasma-active, but it seems that the problem is elsewhere "kde-workspace-dev : Depends: libkwinglesutils1 (= 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu3) but it is not going to be installed"18:58
Riddellrbelem: hmm archive skew?19:01
Riddellrbelem: what arch?19:01
rbelemRiddell, i386 and amd6419:03
Riddellrbelem: is this in a PPA?  which?19:04
rbelemRiddell, kubuntu-active ppa https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-active/+archive/ppa/+build/3295783 https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-active/+archive/ppa/+build/329578419:04
Riddellrbelem: have you made a chroot and tried to install the build-deps?19:06
rbelemRiddell, i was building here with dpkg-buildpackages -b19:07
rbelemRiddell, but i will test now with pbuilder19:08
JontheEchidnaschnelle_: hmm, I can't reproduce :( http://i.imgur.com/IC2jl.png19:19
schnelle_JontheEchidna: I will test precise daily tomorrow to see if I can reproduce it19:23
schnelle_maybe something is wrong with my oneiric install19:23
JontheEchidnafor the record, I'm on precise currently19:23
schnelle_i'll try with deleting muon conf files on oneiric. maybe it'll help :)19:24
ScottKJontheEchidna: Does muon use kdesudo or authkit (or whatever it's called)?19:24
JontheEchidnaPolkit, yeah19:25
JontheEchidna(well, it's called PolKit and PolicyKit)19:25
JontheEchidnasomewhat inconsistently19:25
JontheEchidnaschnelle_: the deb installer is totally separate from Muon and doesn't use any of its config files, so don't go destroying them for nothing :P19:27
rbelemRiddell, pbuilder is not working here. it used to work last time i ran it19:30
ScottKJontheEchidna: I suspect a PolicyKit bug then.19:30
ScottKThere's a newer release in precise.19:30
JontheEchidnaoh, for the disabled install button?19:30
ScottKYes19:30
ScottKPermissions issue.19:30
ScottK(which is why it works on precise)19:31
JontheEchidnaOh, what the bug probably is is that the deb installer's dependency resolver finds something funky about the precise linux kernel trying to be installed that really turns out to be ok19:31
JontheEchidnathe deb installer will disable the install button if it can't resolve the installation of that package without conflits/breaks19:32
JontheEchidnaor if the package is for the wrong arch, etc19:32
Riddellrbelem: well it's building let's see if it succeeds https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-active/+archive/ppa/+build/329578419:32
JontheEchidnaI did notice in schnelle_'s screenshot that the status label didn't say "All dependencies satisfied" like it should, but it also doesn't report any errors, which is a bug19:33
rbelemRiddell, failed but it is my fault now. uploaded again with fix19:36
Riddellrbelem: progress :)19:40
rbelemRiddell, built fine :-)19:57
rbelemRiddell, could you take a look in the plasma-active-default-settings package?19:57
rbelemRiddell, is the files path ok?19:58
shadeslayersooo .. anyone up for helping me develop a algorithm that snips out info like this : http://paste.kde.org/441986/20:03
shadeslayerfrom buildlogs that is20:03
JontheEchidnaQt Creator has one, I think20:05
JontheEchidnamight try looking in its source code20:05
shadeslayerwell20:05
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: I think CMake just prints 5 of -----------------------------------------------------------------------------20:05
shadeslayerso I guess I could just start reading from the first one , keep adding the line to the buff and then keep a count, as soon as the count hits 5, break20:06
shadeslayeror read till 'Configuring done'20:07
shadeslayererk, doesn't work20:16
DoctorPepperhi guys!!!20:16
shadeslayerhi DoctorPepper20:16
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: any ideas as to where I should look :P20:17
DoctorPepperi wondering why the  bug #858970  has yet been fixed on 11.1020:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 858970 in virtuoso-opensource (Ubuntu) "Virtuoso 6.1.3 cause nepomuk encoding error" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85897020:20
DoctorPeppersince the bug has been fixed upstream20:21
shadeslayerhmm20:22
DoctorPepperis it normal  that virtuoso depends on mono ?20:23
DoctorPeppera patch is available on the kde bug tracker and  the patch is quite simple to apply 20:25
shadeslayerDoctorPepper: give me a couple of minutes, trying to figure out whats wrong20:27
shadeslayerok20:28
shadeslayerDoctorPepper: Sebastian says the bug is fixed in 6.1.320:28
shadeslayerand we have 6.1.3 in precise, so the bug shouldn't really be there20:28
shadeslayererm20:28
shadeslayers/precise/oneiric20:28
DoctorPepperi  still have the problem corruption problem 20:30
shadeslayersec20:33
shadeslayerlemme double check20:33
DoctorPepper i have 6.1.3  i downloaded the ubuntu source package  and check if the patch was applied  and to my supprise de line of code that are in the patch  are not  in the source file 20:33
Riddellapachelogger, Quintasan: do you know if launchpad can import a git branch for daily packages?20:34
shadeslayerRiddell: yes it can20:36
shadeslayerthanks to jelmer ... he's awesome20:37
shadeslayerhmm20:38
shadeslayerDoctorPepper: yep, 6.1.3 is still unpatched20:38
shadeslayerthe patch landed in 6.1.420:38
shadeslayerTime for a SRU :D20:39
Riddellshadeslayer: do you know how?20:39
shadeslayerRiddell: yus, I've done it before :)20:39
shadeslayerneed to file a bug, ubuntu-sru will approve and then you'll allow the package in20:40
DoctorPeppershadeslayer:  is it possible to push 6.1.4 into kubuntu-backport20:40
shadeslayeror I could do that20:40
shadeslayerI'll still need to do a SRU though20:41
shadeslayerthe question is also whether to SRU just this one patch or the entire 6.1.4 release .... 20:43
* shadeslayer will look at the diff tomorrow20:44
rbelemRiddell, i uploaded new plasma-active and kubuntu-active-default-settings that should fix one of the three bugs20:44
shadeslayerDoctorPepper: thanks for pointing out the bug, I'm on it :)20:49
DoctorPeppercan anyone explain to me  why the virtuoso package depends on mono 20:50
DoctorPepperyou re welcome 20:50
Riddellrbelem: lovely20:52
Riddellshadeslayer: do you remember how you did it?20:53
Riddellor can you point me at an example?20:53
shadeslayerDoctorPepper: I have virtuoso-minimal, virtuoso-opensource-6.1-common, and virtuoso-opensource-6.1-bin installed, and none of them pull in mono20:53
shadeslayermaybe they depend on something that pulls in mono20:53
shadeslayerRiddell: sec20:54
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shadeslayerhuh, I've only done one SRU till date .. that can't be right20:55
shadeslayerI remember doing more20:56
shadeslayeraha20:56
shadeslayerRiddell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qoauth/+bug/65424120:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 654241 in qoauth (Ubuntu Lucid) "SRU : Please release qoauth 1.0 for lucid" [Undecided,Fix released]20:56
shadeslayerhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-yawp/+bug/66053720:57
ubottuLaunchpad bug 660537 in plasma-widget-yawp (Ubuntu Natty) "SRU: Please release plasma-widget-yawp 0.3.5" [Undecided,Fix released]20:57
DoctorPeppershadeslayer: try to build  from the ubuntu source  package it seems to have a target called virtuoso-opensource-cil 21:04
shadeslayerDoctorPepper: yes, if you build it from source, then you'll have to install mono to build it21:05
shadeslayerlibvirtuoso5.5-cil isn't shipped on Kubuntu .... 21:05
DoctorPepperthe issue is that  unable to install mono-devel and mono-xbuild21:05
shadeslayeroh21:06
shadeslayerDoctorPepper: whats the error?21:06
rbelemRiddell, i didnt see so much improvement21:12
rbelemRiddell, i will try to get kwin active bug fixed now21:13
DoctorPepperactually i just found out that packages are installed but when i try build virtuoso  i get the following errors : http://pastebin.com/z3Zdaznr21:13
rbelemRiddell, apps window are now fullscreen21:14
rbelemRiddell, i think they are ready to go21:15
rbelemRiddell, two more issues21:16
rbelemRiddell, logout is not working21:16
rbelemRiddell, plasma-device appears as a application. it appears it the task bar21:17
shadeslayerI think I'm going to kill python 21:18
ScottKshadeslayer: Python is easy. You're probably over thinking it.21:18
shadeslayerScottK: https://gist.github.com/2065358 << Explain to me how I'm overthinking this :P21:19
ScottKWhat problem are you having?21:19
shadeslayerwell, it parses build logs and checks if optional build deps are missing21:20
shadeslayer( made it for neon )21:20
ScottKRight, but what's the problem with your script?21:20
shadeslayerUh, it doesn't say parse the build logs correctly21:21
shadeslayerfor eg for project-neon-ark21:21
shadeslayerhttps://launchpadlibrarian.net/91448853/buildlog_ubuntu-precise-amd64.project-neon-ark_2%2Bgit20120130%2Br2431-4~precise1_BUILDING.txt.gz21:21
shadeslayerkonsole output : "Now inspecting project-neon-ark                                                                                                                                                                              21:21
shadeslayerNow inspecting project-neon-attica"21:21
ScottKI've never used launchpadlib before, so give me a minute to study this.21:22
shadeslayersure21:22
shadeslayeroooh21:23
shadeslayerstupid newline21:23
shadeslayerI had this21:23
* shadeslayer grumbles a bit about new line chars21:23
ScottKWhy do you write the tempfile?21:28
shadeslayerScottK: because I don't want it to be stored21:28
shadeslayeras soon as I'm done with it, it's deleted21:28
ScottKNo, why write it at all.21:29
ScottKget_http_gzip looks like it returns a file like object, so you can just readline that and be done.21:29
shadeslayerhmm ... ok, but it'll be stored in the memory right?21:30
shadeslayerbuild logs can be huge at times, just thought it would save memory21:31
rbelemhey guys, do you know how kde-window-manager and kde-window-manager-gles build work?21:31
rbelemi would like to add one more kde-window-manager-active21:31
ScottKshadeslayer: Something like http://paste.debian.net/160147/21:32
ScottK(totally untested)21:33
shadeslayerlogfile = get_http_gzip(build.build_log_url) right?21:33
ScottKI think so21:33
shadeslayerright, I'll try that21:33
shadeslayerjust adding more features :P21:33
Riddellshadeslayer: why do I care about bug 654241 ?21:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 654241 in qoauth (Ubuntu Lucid) "SRU : Please release qoauth 1.0 for lucid" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/65424121:33
shadeslayerRiddell: huh? I thought you were asking for SRU examples?21:34
Riddellshadeslayer: I wanted to know about importing git branches into launchpad21:34
shadeslayeroh21:34
shadeslayer*headdesk*21:34
shadeslayerRiddell: https://help.launchpad.net/Code/Imports21:35
shadeslayerimport request page : https://code.launchpad.net/+code-imports/+new21:35
shadeslayerit's a magical thing21:35
Riddellrbelem: a normal compile of kde-workspace will make both kwin and kwin_gles21:35
Riddellshadeslayer: "The URL of the git repository. The HEAD branch will be imported."21:36
Riddellshadeslayer: I want to import something other than HEAD21:36
shadeslayeryes, that can be done as well iirc, sec21:36
shadeslayerI have that written down somewhere21:36
shadeslayerin my logs21:36
rbelemRiddell, hum.. i thought the souce builds twice21:36
rbelemRiddell, is there a patch for that?21:37
Riddellrbelem: I think it used to build twice but in kde 4.8 it builds once making two binaries21:37
Riddellwe don't patch it21:37
Riddellrbelem: so I think we will now have to build it twice again, one normally and once with -DKWIN_PLASMA_ACTIVE=true21:39
rbelemRiddell, can we make a copy of kwin dir and patch the build system?21:44
Riddellrbelem: we can just compile it twice21:44
shadeslayerRiddell: <jelmer> shadeslayer: you can add ",branch=BLAH" to the URL to import a specific branch21:44
Riddellmkdir build-active; cd build-active; cmake -DKWIN_PLASMA_ACTIVE=true ..; cd kwin; make21:44
Riddellshadeslayer: ah hah21:44
shadeslayerI lost the logs though, I poked him again :P21:45
Riddellshadeslayer: so like this? git://anongit.kde.org/kde-workspace,branch=foo21:45
shadeslayersupposedly, yes21:45
shadeslayerI've never tried it out myself, but I saw the merge request for the feature a long time back21:46
Riddellshadeslayer: ok set that up, any idea how long it typically takes to import?21:46
shadeslayerdepends on the machine, pear is the faster iirc21:46
Riddellwell I'm in no rush21:47
shadeslayerbut usually within 10-15 minutes21:47
Riddellthanks for your help21:47
shadeslayer:)21:47
shadeslayerScottK: yer code doesn't work :P21:49
ScottKOK.  I told you it's not tested.21:49
ScottKI'd make it work with a local copy of the logfile first and then try to make retrieving from LP work.21:49
shadeslayerohfoey, one bad indent21:50
shadeslayerstill doesn't work21:50
ScottKYou aren't mixing tabs and spaces are you?  That can be a silent killer in Python.21:53
shadeslayernope21:54
shadeslayerthis is what works for me : https://gist.github.com/206535821:54
rbelemRiddell, oki... will do that21:55
ScottKOK.21:55
DoctorPeppershadeslayer:  any idea about my problem with mono ?21:56
shadeslayerDoctorPepper: nope ... best to ask in #ubuntu-devel21:56
shadeslayerthey would most certainly have a better idea about mono21:57
shadeslayerclearly my script is still broken21:58
shadeslayerI'll have a look at this tomorrow21:58
littlegirlHey there, I'm editing the contribute.xml document and would like to link to the bugs.xml document. How is that done?23:47

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